Part 2 of 2: Episode 2408 CWSA 03/09/24

Date: 2024-03-09 | Duration: 37:58

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Part 2 of Episode 2408, 03/09/24

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yeah all right well I guess I’m done with that so the Sam Harris was trending which is never good news for Sam Harris and uh this joeo guy said Sor success and every failure means nothing there’s no good and evil because people have no say in their actions it’s a dangerous line of thinking and what I was saying was I don’t believe in Free Will what am I doing that’s dangerous Sam Aris doesn’t believe in Free Will what’s he doing because of that that’s dangerous are are we committing some crimes because we don’t believe in Free Will no you act exactly the same if you believe in free will or not so it’s not dangerous it’s the opposite of dangerous it’s just a little philosophical thing that has no impact on you whatsoever because you’re going to do what you’re going to do and then you’re going to rationalize it after the fact always have always will doesn’t matter matter if you know it knowing that you do it doesn’t stop it because you don’t have another way to act there’s no other way to be we just act like it’s

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to be we just act like it’s real but in general you should always believe that a claim that magic exists is never as strong as they claim that magic doesn’t exist so um Free Will is sort of connected to a soul and those would be magic in the sense that’re not part of the physical cause and effect world so I’m going to call Magic anything that’s outside of physics basically um so it might exist but it’ be outside of physics so if you’re going to ever guess the likelihood of something the person who says you’re only imagining that there’s magic it doesn’t really exist is going to be right so far every time 100% record never been wrong yet that magic is it real so um but more to the point when Joo says but there would be no meaning to life if we don’t have free

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life if we don’t have free will it’s deeper than that there’s no meaning to meaning you don’t have to worry that there’s no meaning to life because the word meaning doesn’t have meaning is anybody on that page do you understand that there’s no meaning to the word meaning what’s that mean so not having it doesn’t mean anything and having it doesn’t mean anything but I’ll tell you what feels like meaning uh and this is actually one of the most useful things you’ll ever hear what feels like meaning is anytime that you’re close to the meting process you’ll always feel like you have meaning for example you could be you know terribly unhappy in your day-to-day life in your family life but if you’re part of a process of raising young people into older people you have meaning you know it might not be a joy every day but you’d have meaning you’d like oh yeah my meaning is to take care of my family so if you’re you know

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of my family so if you’re you know dating you feel like you have meaning if you’re working out at the gym so that you could be healthy so that somebody will want to mate with you that’s part of the mating process so everything you can do whether it’s earning money going to the gym eating right dating starting a family every part of that connected to the most basic things that a human does which is our our most important impulses to create more humans everything is subsidiary to that and not because it’s not because of some intellectual reason is we evolved so that the people who reproduce are the ones who survived so we we have this imperative that’s evolved into us and when you’re consistent with the imperative you’re doing anything that helps and it could be indirect like you could be a school teacher that’s definitely helping because you’re creating you know good people out of you know young people so if you want meeting find something that supports uh the process

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something that supports uh the process of humans surviving and thriving and that will give you a sense of meaning every time uh here’s a climate reframe that I thought was amazing Alex Epstein um he does a lot of writing and talking and uh advocating on the topic of climate so instead of addressing climate change here’s the reframe the reframe is climate change is the wrong target we want to quote reduce climate danger oh that’s good if you say you want to stop climate change that drives a certain set of behaviors if you say you want to reduce climate danger that’s a whole different behaviors and what’s more important stopping a change or stopping how it affects us poorly there’s a big difference the best thing you can do is is get rid of the danger and we’ve been great at that so

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danger and we’ve been great at that so far um so if you’re trying to reduce the danger you might for example uh let’s say reinforce your dkes you know reinforce the dkes that would reduce your danger but if you want to reduce the change well good luck you’re going to have to tell China to do different things we can’t so working on reducing the change might be impossible but certainly you could work on reducing the danger that’s a really good reframe that’s probably the best reframe I’ve heard yet on uh climate and it was right there it was sort of obvious but it took uh it took until Alex said it out loud that it made sense so apparently Hunter Biden came up with some conspiracy theory uh defense for his tax charges is not paying taxes charges and the idea was that the only reason he’s being charged uh or maybe there’s a little special attention on is because the Republicans are pushing

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Republicans are pushing it so that was that was Hunter’s defense in part that it’s because the you know the whole the comments just stop oh there we go uh that it was really the Republicans and Trump was really behind it because they’re making a big political thing out of it and it wouldn’t be such a big deal uh if not for that but that was rejected and here the quote of how it was rejected is kind of funny the defendant fails to explain how President Biden or the Attorney General to whom the special Council reports or the special counsel himself or his team of prosecutors are acting at the direction of former president Trump or Congressional Republicans or how this current executive branch approved allegedly discriminatory charges against the president’s son at the direction of former president trump it is pretty funny that he’s saying the only reason he’s being charged is because Republicans and

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charged is because Republicans and Republicans have no power it’s entirely the Biden Administration doing all of it their own appointees and and he’s still claiming it’s the damn Republic an anyway let’s talk about the Tik Tock ban which might have something to do with why my internet doesn’t work I don’t know um but both Trump and VI have now come out in opposed to Banning it so V and Trump are both opposed to Banning Tik Tock and Trump used to be in favor of it on top of that Rand Paul and Thomas Massie are both against Banning it now what do those four people have in common Rand Paul Thomas Massie vake and Trump well I haven’t heard from Trump directly but I can say that V Rand Paul and Thomas Massie have something in

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and Thomas Massie have something in common that they talk about Tik Tock as a data security problem when that’s not the problem it’s just one of them the problem is persuasion that’s the dangerous part and they all they all uh sort of obviously ignore the obvious I mean it’s just the biggest thing and they just act like that’s not the thing now if if these were stupid idiots what would I say is the explanation for why they can’t seem to understand this simple concept I would say they’re idiots right if uh if dairo said this i’ say oh you idiot you don’t even know that persuasion is the main problem suppose uh I don’t know some democrat said it I just say idiot but what happens if Rand Paul Thomas Massie and V are all on the same side and all very very

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on the same side and all very very consciously and knowingly ignoring the biggest part of the story how do you explain that there’s only one way it’s not that they’re stupid yeah apparently the CIA has already penetrated Tik Tock and can get everything it wants and maybe they have some value because if you’re in if you’re inside any of the social networks then you can track all the terrorists and the bad guys and do all the things that the CIA needs to do so my guess is that they’ve already figured out how to corrupt it without owning it otherwise otherwise there’s no way that Trump would have changed on this right you know a liberal woman who screamed in your face Scott Adams is an idiot oh yes so there’s something going on all right would you agree there’s something going on because I’ve reminded all of these

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on because I’ve reminded all of these people at some point that’s the persuasion risk they’ve all heard it they all know it but they’re ignoring it why are they doing it so pointedly well they’re lying they’re lying so in my opinion Rand Paul Thomas Messi and V are all lying and uh Trump as well probably so I think all four are just lying to us about what I can only speculate but I speculate that they’re lying um because there’s some bigger play here that we don’t understand in other words there might be a national security benefit to keeping it that they know about but they can’t tell us but they’re definitely lying the the thing is that when you see these four people lying to you about this there’s something else completely going on would you agree that there’s something going on and they’re definitely lying yeah definitely lying definitely

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lying yeah definitely lying definitely something else going on but here’s the weird part these are all people I trust isn’t that weird that if you if you said name four people who you know not counting hyperbole you know Trump does a lot of hyperboy but when it comes down to something that’s real I believe these are four people who would not lie to me unless the National Security was at stake so there must be a national security element to this that is not obvious to us because I don’t believe these four are stupid they’re not they’re the most brilliant people around and they definitely know what the real problem is the persuasion so they must have gotten a handle on it the CIA must be driving more than we know maybe they have actual functional control of the algorithm by now Kevin oir said that there’s no way Tik tok’s going to be banned because uh if is forced to be sold which is one of the options they have to either shut it

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the options they have to either shut it down or sell it to an American Uh Kevin L said he’ll buy it he’s not an American is he isn’t he Canadian yeah so do you think that America would allow it if a Canadian owns it here’s the problem so Kevin o you know we he’s a naturalized citizen somebody says that would that would make a difference to me is he a naturalized system wife is a wife is American well it would be an interesting thing I don’t trust Canada so if Canada has any power over Kevin o I wouldn’t trust him I trust him but not if Canada is you know making him a puppet because it’s his his country so i’ I’d be leer that I don’t

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country so i’ I’d be leer that I don’t know that anybody will be able to buy it because um bite dance doesn’t want to sell it so they’re saying they won’t sell it we’ll see um and of course uh Tik Tok continues to advertise in Fox News this what a Fox News Major advertisers now so everything that you think about Tik Tock must be wrong it must be wrong and it’s interesting that all four of these people would be willing to destroy our children to maintain it and and they’re giving us the argument that is free speech do you think that any of these people think that propaganda from China is Free Speech they don’t believe that of course not so they are lying to us I just don’t know what the real truth is sure it’s not good though um I don’t think they’re all bought by China but that would explain it all wouldn’t it if all four of them were owned by

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it if all four of them were owned by China from Trump through ran Paulo Thomas Massie and that would explain everything we see wouldn’t it so you can’t rule that out I I hate to say it but you have to consider one of the possibilities that China has functional control over all four of these people because it doesn’t make sense what they’re saying what they’re saying is nonsense it’s like it’s like they suddenly became stupid or something so there’s something else going on because they’re not stupid anyway the state of the union is still reverberating bill and everybody’s calling Biden feisty I guess he’s feisty that’s the that’s the word we’re going to use now now he got a bump from it and I will agree he he exceeded expectations but do you think he can keep it up nobody thinks he can keep it up so I think that whatever bump he got from the state of the union will wear off a few weeks yeah uh 35% of viewers said they’

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weeks yeah uh 35% of viewers said they’ had a negative reaction but most people seem positive about it um dairo was on the show Robert dairo the uh the B he’s the basket case um let’s say I guess he’s the face of TDS so Bill M asked them um about the militarization of the New York subways and uh apparently he hadn’t heard about it just hold that in your head daero who lives in here City hadn’t heard that they were militarizing the subway uh but he but he said that if Trump had militarized the subway uh that it would be for a different reason because if Trump did it then you know it’s part of his dictator takeover but if the governor did it he’s like well he’s going to have to look into it he does he hasn’t heard about it okay uh but this is what Dao says

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it okay uh but this is what Dao says quote talking about Trump if he wins the election you won’t be on the show anymore talking to Bill M he’ll come looking for me there’ll be things that happen that none of us can imagine that’s what happens in that kind of dictatorship which is what he he says and he says you should take him at his word that’s what Bill Mah says took him about his word and then Bill Mah says the one thing he knows about Trump is that he’ll never give up power he’s not the president he gave up power he had no plan whatsoever for any kind of military takeover there’s no evidence that he ever planned anything except finding out for sure whether the election was rigged how in the world does TDs guard Bill Maher sit there and say I knew he

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Bill Maher sit there and say I knew he would never give up power what he watched him give up power now he tried he tried of course to cling to power with you know uh a political process but if all it is is a political process why are we afraid of it we’re supposed to do political processes wow so here’s why um dairo probably doesn’t know a single Republican let me speak for every single Republican may I may I speak for every Republican who would be okay with locking up daero and Bill Mah because they say things you don’t like wh which Republican would be in favor of locking them up for their opinions you’re lying no you don’t believe that you’re

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lying no you don’t believe that you’re being hyperbolic there you do not believe that you would lock them up for their opinions stop it you just make it worse none of you believe that and you’d have to never have met a republican to think that they would want to lock up anybody for having a bad political opinion yeah now let’s let’s do it the other way let’s suppose you did a poll do you think uh bill marah should be in jail for his political opinions how many Republicans would say yes to that none except people joking right some people would joke or something but none basically none now imagine this how many uh January 6 protesters who are nonviolent nonviolent should still be in jail what do you think Democrats would say they’d say all of them they should all be in jail this is another case of Democrats projecting Democrats would project that Republicans would do what

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project that Republicans would do what they’ve done to Republicans do you know why they think that Republicans might do it because they’re talking about revenge and apparently they’re completely aware that Revenge would make sense as a concept do you know when that makes sense it makes sense when you’re doing something that’s so bad that Revenge makes sense so they are completely aware that what they’ve done is so bad that they don’t need to worry about revenge now you could argue no Scott they think it’s not you know it wouldn’t be um a legitimate Revenge it would be just bad people doing bad things but I think at some level they know they’re the baddies on some level they would never say it but there’s no way you could watch your own team putting people in jail for protesting when we have a protest country and to imagine that that wasn’t complete Hitler like

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complete Hitler like activity I think they know it on some level so should they be afraid that a trump dictatorship would get revenge and put in jail just for free speech it would be good Revenge but uh I would certainly do what I could to stop it right I I don’t want to live in a country where Bill Mah and Robert daero are in legal Jeopardy legal Jeopardy we could take away their freedom because they had an opinion you don’t like no I’m not going to live in that country now if that happened I would be in favor of assassination of the president let me say it directly if if Trump ever gave the order to round up daero and Bill Maher for their opinions then I think the President should be assassinated

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so just in case you’re wondering where I stand on it that’s never going to happen so you don’t have to worry about it like it’s never going to happen it’s just crazy crazy all right uh the maze account ma good follow on xplatform um points this out said last night I talking about the State of the Union Biden complained that the tax code is unfair teachers not paid enough the cost of college is too high America needs more clean energy jobs Russia is under of control and that the cost of healthcare is too high that’s what he said at the State of the Union let’s see what did he say during at 2008 at the DNC uh Biden said that Obama would reform the tax code Pay Teachers more make colleges and Healthcare affordable hold Russia accountable and create a bunch of clean energy jobs well at least he’s consistent he just doesn’t realize that Obama didn’t get it I guess uh there’s some thought Laura lummer says she’s got a scoop that VI

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lummer says she’s got a scoop that VI was uh favor to do the rebuttal to the State of the Union but that Mitch McConnell uh vetoed that and instead they came up with Katie Brit who is trending on the xplatform simply for being terrible um and that’s bad and I think is both uh Republicans and Democrats are hitting or the same I don’t think there’s I haven’t heard a single Republican say anything except this is a nightmare this is terrible imagine showing that as your bench yeah the whole idea of you know the usually some upand cominging person uh doing a good job in the rebuttal is that you’re showing you have a deep bench you know maybe you’re preparing somebody now correct me if I’m wrong but although Obama kind of came out of nowhere because he was a you know Junior Senator hadn’t been in office very long

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Senator hadn’t been in office very long um but when you heard him talk you got it right the moment you heard Obama talk you go oh he does have the goods he’s very inexperienced relatively speaking but yeah he’s got he’s got that presidential thing can you tell me what Republican or Republicans know Katie Britt and know her work and said to themselves oh she’s going to light it up she’s going to give us some Obama level Charisma how in the world did this decision get made we should know who made this decision I don’t know if it was McConnell but whoever made this decision is not capable would you agree whoever decided this was a good idea is not capable person I don’t know how that happened well the news is today is that Lura Trump is going to be the co-chair of the RNC who’s the chair did they pick a

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RNC who’s the chair did they pick a chair of the RNC and I missed that news because they say the co-chair any anybody but have they picked somebody for for sure I I have an every news that they have a chair much less a co-chair Watley who’s Watley they actually did pick somebody well I guess I’ll catch up on that a lot of people are saying Watley it’s a name I’ve never heard W anyway people are saying uh typically oh my God it’s nepotism how could you possibly hire a family member uh look at the disaster with Jared and uh and ianka so I saw that an X because the disaster of Jared and ianka what was that disaster Let’s see we had ianka who almost everybody agrees was a positive you know she sort of a softer

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positive you know she sort of a softer female version that Trump respected gave him a little more perspective I think I don’t think anybody complained about aanka did they even once I’ve never heard even one complaint and Jared got a Abraham Accords what did he do wrong I mean you would almost think that hiring your family is a good idea if these were the only examples now let’s talk about Lara Trump now she’s interviewed me a few times um on uh zoom and my impression was very capable very patriotic very charismatic all the energy in the world connected to the right people she’s kind of great do you agree am I wrong about

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that yeah to me she seems like a strong choice and uh we’ll see yeah anyway uh John brenen was on MSNBC saying that the Intel community may uh not give Trump as a candidate they might not give him all the good stuff because uh because of his quote misuse of classified information now when MSNBC brings John Brenan on to say that Trump won’t isn’t trusted by the intelligence Community what is that that’s exactly what it looks like yeah Brennan is part of the uh current and ex intelligence people who actually run the country and MSNBC and NBC News are among the vehicles that they use um for influence so you’re seeing the actual people who are in charge of the country um what once you see who’s actually in charge everything makes sense after that

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charge everything makes sense after that everything makes sense all right uh heard a little bit more about IVF I was try to figure out why some conservatives don’t like IVF but Trump’s in favor of it and uh the argument goes that that uh the IVF I guess you fertilize more than one egg to make sure you’ve got at least one good one and that it’s common practice to either freeze the extras or abort them some people would say the word abort because they’re fertilized now this is a problem for anybody who believes that life begins at Inception Inception would be the fertiliz a um so that’s the argument I was not aware of that argument because I uh as you know I do not believe in uh Magic and so it never occurred to me that somebody would think a fertilized egg has a soul how many of you think a fertilize egg as a

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soul 100% yes yes yes yes yes yes yes and so all right let me ask you a related idea how many think a soul is a real thing how many thinks that a soul is a real thing yes yes yes all right now I do understand that um the belief and science are different things so I’m very Pro religion which means that I respect your opinions are you okay with that are you okay if I disagree but I have complete respect for your opinion and and I have a lot of respect for anything that is airing on the side of life I respect that it’s not the choices I would make personally in my own life but when I see other people airing on the side of life you know if there’s any question whether it’s life got to save it I’m glad I live among them I’m glad I live among people who put life as their

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live among people who put life as their top top requirement um but I also can see why people would have a different point of view so you have my maximum respect while I have a different view are you okay with that good now we understand each other um so now I understand what your point of view is and there’s no arguing whether a soul exists or a soul doesn’t exist right there would be no point of that and by the way why would I want to do it why would I want to talk you out of of that for some convenience for myself um I don’t know it’s there there are a lot of things where you like the fact that there people on the other side there’s like a useful tension so one of the places that there’s a useful tension uh would be you know somebody who’s Pro Trump and somebody who’s against Trump right so uh it’s useful

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against Trump right so uh it’s useful that they’re anti-trump people it’s use use ful that they’re anti-biden people because it’s the you know the creative tension that allows you to do anything otherwise you end up with a dictator however um I’ve long predicted that AI is going to make us wonder about souls because once AI is indistinguishable from a human life which is guaranteed at this point um we’re going to have lots of questions about whether or how a soul it’s going to get complicated um Trump is getting a little more controversial lately uh first of all backing IVF that might be a problem for his supporters but also he’s full-throated Pro vaccine not PR mandate but he says that he says the vaccine saved us from Co I know I know you you can say it in

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Co I know I know you you can say it in the the comments he says he says the vaccine saved us now keep in mind he has to say that because if it’s not true then he oversaw a mass murder so Trump has to say it worked he couldn’t get elected and you know his his legacy would be destroyed if it didn’t right now how many of you would say it’s fair to say that it did work work briefly for older people not during Omicron but during the heavy fase is anybody believes that the science when objectively looked at shows more benefit than uh cost because that that’s the current scientific consensus which doesn’t mean anything that’s the current consensus but you don’t believe the so

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consensus but you don’t believe the so you don’t believe the doctor even uh even the doctors who are conservatives because there’d be a lot of conservative doctors who would agree that it did work for older people and during the worst part of it but not during Omicron all right well I’m too bored with the argument about vaccines and Ivon and all that stuff I’ll just point at the political ramifications are people are going to have a hard time voting for Trump aren’t they yeah I think Dr Drew says that it looks like it was more benefit than not for the older people don’t know all right um Alex Jones you know says it’s BS so he’s going to Trump is going to get a lot of push back on the vaccines I feel like there’s a better way to handle the vaccine question and crowing that he was a big success is not going to get

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was a big success is not going to get him any Democrats but it’s definitely going to cost them Republicans so why is he doing it don’t you think there’s a better way to frame it here’s how I would have framed it if I were him well actually there is no way to frame this right I I think V would have helped him out here if there was any way to do it right probably wasn’t there probably was no way to there’s probably no way to win on this argument CU he’s just too a associated with the vaccine and there’s no way he’s going to change people’s mind about that all right uh there’s new Alzheimer’s drug from uh Eli Lily but the FDA is delaying it because they want to get some more information uh they’re they’re they’re going to make a let’s say more scrutiny on it that’s the quick version and it makes me wonder if the FDI is FDA has found uh religion or is this

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religion or is this normal do do you think they’re trying harder not to put any dangerous drugs out out there yeah I said FDI I don’t know it’s probably just a bureaucratic thing uh we heard more about Mitch McConnell’s uh sister-in-law who died in the lake trapped in her Tesla and we all suspected that there was um some kind of Foul Play well it turns out there was no foul play uh but I’m very sad that I know it because the reason we know it if you haven’t heard of this this is terrible she made a phone call while she was submerged in the car yeah she made a phone call while she was submerged in the car so now we know that it was just she hit the wrong pedal and you maybe she had a drink or something but she hit the wrong pedal so so there was nothing to it except she

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so there was nothing to it except she literally just was trying to back up and backed up down and apparently it slowly submerged and she made a phone call and the emergency crews didn’t have the right equipment when they got there the emergency crews didn’t have the right equipment so they didn’t have any they didn’t have any scuba you know the divers could have broken a window and you know maybe their breathing tube until they get get out um but they also didn’t have a long enough toe so they couldn’t tow it out fast enough and they couldn’t get to her and some apparently some of the people who were in attendance at the event uh one of them dived in one of the women dived in I can’t you know I thought that uh Gaza food tragedy where some food dropped on some people people who already had 51 days the worst thing ever but this is

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days the worst thing ever but this is right at the top of my nightmare scenario uh the only good news and it’s hard to call it that is that it wasn’t some kind of a plot it was an excident I feel as though uh musk needs to fix this there there needs to be some kind of uh uh like an emergency ejection seat you not actually an ex but something that would blow the top off or something yeah Auto Glass breaker how many of you carry a uh windshield breaker in your car you know I used to but I don’t think I have anymore I think I might add one all right all right well that’s all I got for today too bad those other platforms