Episode 1265 Scott Adams: The News, Historians, A Virus Test That’ll Make You Turn the Other Cheek

Date: 2021-01-27 | Duration: 59:39

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• CNN’s propagandist, John Avlon

• Origin of the phrase “The Big Lie”

• A standing army guarding DC?

• Literary agent fired for Gab and Parler accounts

• Normalizing genecide

• Rand Paul on impeachment

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hey everybody come on in come on in it's time yeah it's time for coffee with scott adams best time of the day every single time now i have to warn you that i'm gonna miss uh one morning i believe it's tomorrow morning no it's uh thursday morning and uh hey omar good morning good morning get in here we got lots to talk about but before we do what do we do before we talk about all the fun things ah it's a simultaneous step that's right and all you need is uh um let's see all you need is i'm not cheating i'm not looking at my cheat sheet i'm not looking to the left all you need is a cover of my glasses tanker cello's just dying the canteen checkered classic vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine heat of the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous up it happens now

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i'm being reminded that tomorrow is thursday let me tell you i have completely lost all the track of time i have this weird condition uh in which calendars confuse me lots of things confuse me but i'm not good with calendars i'll tell you more about that some other time so one of the things that i'm in bora bora now in french polynesia if you didn't know and one of the remarkable things about this place is the low crime and i figured out why finally why is there such low crime here there could never really be any kind of a underground mafia here because the water is so clear if you took a body and you you put them in the bottom of the lagoon people would be walking by the lagoon and they'd say hey there's mark oh oh because you would see them so clearly it's like they're not even underwater so it'd be hard to put dispose of your

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so it'd be hard to put dispose of your bodies out here that's my take on why the crime is so low
low all right so it turns out that biden is describing his vice president kabul harris as quote she's going to be the final opinion he listens to before making his big decisions so not only will kamala harris not have a portfolio which is what you do with vice presidents when you want to keep them as vice presidents but she's going to be the last person he talks to before he makes a big decision which is a lot like she's making the decision isn't it now he didn't say i'm going to talk to her last and then i'm going to ignore her advice i feel as if he's he's just moving us a little bit closer every day to her taking over but he doesn't want to say it directly this this is sort of a version of the

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this this is sort of a version of the cats on the roof well let me let me break it to you slowly i'm not going to say she's the real president i'm just going to say she doesn't have a portfolio she's working on i'm not going to say she's the real president i'm just saying i'm a certain age i don't think i'd run for a second term i'm not saying that she's the real president i'm just saying she's the last person i'll talk to before i make a big decision which is totally different do you see it every little move is just a little bit more in that direction
so that's fun to watch them manage us uh with the propaganda um so an interesting thing happened at the end of biden's remarks i guess at a press conference in which fox news's peter ducey asked him uh what he talked about when

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asked him uh what he talked about when he talked to putin so i guess biden and putin must have a phone call and biden's answer was his answer to the question what did you talk with putin about biden said you ha-ha-ha-ha so he just joked at peter ducey and then you know left the room now that's the second time he's used the same joke on peter ducey so i forget the context of the other one what but i think when he was riding his bicycle biden was and peter ducey asked him a question and he and biden looked at him and said you so he's basically used the same joke twice which isn't much of a joke but here's what i think you ought to look for it could be that he's just treating peter ducey like a
a somebody from fox news so he's doing the same thing that trump did to cnn so it might be nothing but you know the way he's treating fox news which would be um not unexpected but

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um not unexpected but i'd also look for the fact he might be covering some memory problems so look for this pattern going forward look for re for situations in which biden asked to recall something from memory makes a joke instead as a cover-up for a baby not having so much memory because if if biden is asked what his policy is then that's probably something he's practiced a lot what do you think of the paris accord and then he'll say blah blah blah we have to lead the world blah blah trump is bad but when you ask him a memory problem of do you you know what did you do then he hasn't practiced that because why would you you wouldn't think to practice your memories you would think to practice something like a policy decision you know something to describe so look for him to have to cover any memory related questions by making a joke

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related questions by making a joke we'll see if that happens so it's a semi-prediction slash pattern to look for you probably saw the humorous video going around of jen pasaki biden's spokesperson who apparently has used the phrase i'll have to circle back a lot of times already she hasn't been on the job long but a lot of a lot of circling back so when you see all the times that she says that it it puts the lie to the statement that they were going to be the honest and as cnn says refreshing refreshing uh communicator there's gonna be a lot of stuff she's gotta circle back on if you know what i mean so my favorite uh cnn demon uh propagandist you know i realized today that calling people opinion people versus news people isn't really enough detail right

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isn't really enough detail right i don't think anymore you could call everybody who works at cnn an opinion person or a news person there's another category which is propagandist and i don't think you can call the opinion people opinion people when they go so far into propaganda that it's it's just ridiculous right now of course you can make the same argument about some people on the right so i'm not saying this is you know limited to one side but my favorite propagandist is cnn's john avlon and i don't know what makes me so entertained by him i think it's because he's smiling when he's being evil and the the combination of the smile and the evil makes it look different than if you were just being evil or just smiling you know those two things shouldn't be paired that's demon territory
so he was mocking uh in an opinion piece of video he was john avalon was mocking rand paul for saying that biden's speech

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for saying that biden's speech calling for unity was actually thinly veiled suggestion that republicans are white supremacists so so ron paul i'm sorry rand paul says that you know biden is essentially suggesting that republicans are really white supremacist how does john avalon the propagandist treat that he he says huh why is rand paul worried about this you see that huh why is rand paul worried about being called the white supremacist he's literally suggesting that rand paul is a white supremacist so in his propaganda piece in which he's mocking rand paul for thinking that biden is somehow suggesting he's a white supremacist john athlon clearly suggests clearly i mean there's no ambiguity there that rand paul is a white supremacist right on tv

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right on tv no no evidence no accu no reason for it he just puts him in the same category as a white supremacist you don't need reasons apparently but it gets better uh rand i'm sorry john avalon and i've seen other people at cnn and in other places use this phrase the big lie do you know what they refer to as the big lie well it turns out they've branded the idea that trump's claimed that the and other people's claim that the election was rigged so they're calling that the big lie what does the big lie remind you of is there some thinly veiled suggestion when you use a phrase like the big lie where did that come from yeah it's a nazi phrase the big lie correct me if i'm wrong refers to

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refers to the nazi propaganda process yeah i think it was uh gobbles gobbles i never know how to pronounce his name goebbels um he was one who said that a big lie is easier to sell than a small one so the the phrase big lie is associated with nazis so again john avalon clearly branding republicans and trump as a nazi and he's doing it right on television like that's an opinion now an opinion with some you know detail behind it might be one thing but this is pure propaganda it is nazi propaganda just like it in which he's branding a class of people a class of people who should be let's say treated differently by society and not well and that's that's what he would like you to think of republicans quite amazing

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republicans quite amazing quite amazing to watch uh actual nazi-like propaganda that's being sold as
as ordinary opinion it's just an opinion that these people should be treated as second-class citizens
so here's some other shocking things there's tom cotton's writing an opinion piece saying we should remove these seven 7000 remaining national guard that apparently we're going to remain in the capital to which i said am i missing something in this story is there some reason we need a standing defensive army in washington dc i understand the capital was assaulted i understand there's probably more chatter on the internet but really right now we need 7 000 people guarding the capital we don't have enough police to take care of whatever you know might happen because you get a lot of warning if a

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because you get a lot of warning if a lot of people are going to show up don't you
you i feel as though i feel as though that whole uh what was it stop the steel movement that became the at least some members of them uh or at least some people who attended the larger event you know i got into the capitol building and nobody's in favor of that or at least i'm not you can you can judge it yourself but i hope you're not in favor of that either so why do we have troops i think i've got to agree with tom cotton here it's time to get rid of the troops and thank them thank them for their work and not put them in parking garages i forget if i told you this yesterday in some publication called the college fix it reports that researchers plan to revise a study on youtube echo chambers that labeled the dilbert cartoonist as far right

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i still laugh at that i'm about as uh we live in a world in which people can't even conceive that you might be able to criticize both sides for different things it's like it's not even a thing that you would imagine that maybe just because i am in favor of some things or opposed to some things that that you could just label me as far right i label myself as left of bernie so there you go there's a story about a literary agent who was fired by the the agency that employed him and here's here's the reason he was fired because he has an account on gab and parlor that's it he got fired for that he got fired for using social media companies that lots of people use but more people associated with the right use them and so just the fact that he was using those two platforms independent of whatever he was doing on there that's it he got fired for it and he got

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that's it he got fired for it and he got fired because somebody called them called the downs somebody you know on social media said hey do you know that one of your employees or agents one of your agents has these social media accounts and he actually got fired
wow now i hope what happens is that anybody who does that sort of thing the firing i mean ends up taking a hit now of course it's a public story and who would do business if you were on the right who would do business with us with this person who just fired somebody for having a social media account she doesn't like who would do business with them if you were a republican i i wouldn't i mean that would be that would be a hard no right it wouldn't it wouldn't matter as long as there's some competition why in the world would you deal with somebody like that
there's an interesting story that china has developed some kind of an

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has developed some kind of an um this is not a joke by the way what follows is not a joke china has developed an anal coronavirus test now i don't know the details of it because i didn't want to delve into it if you know what i mean
but it is sort of a turn the other cheek situation as opposed to the cheek swabs that you were doing in your mouth apparently your other cheeks will get involved now and i'm just putting that out there that there's an anal coronavirus test well i'll use that as a segue for some other stories about things that china is trying to shove up your ass so the coronavirus test is the first thing that china is trying to shove up your asses the second thing is a story about the world health organization top officials said that in a recent press conference that is quote definitely too early to

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is quote definitely too early to conclude that the coronavirus originated in china
okay it's way too early people do not assume that the coronavirus originated in china but there's a trick to this one that's sort of the headline so what i told you was the headline when you hear that the world health organization is saying we're not sure where this started you know be open-minded about it it doesn't sound good does it but then the rest of the story kind of clarifies which is that the world health organization is backing some scientists who are going to study the origins of the the virus so in the context of your organization backing a study about the origin of the virus should you say in advance what the origin of the virus is no no you should act as though you're open-minded even if you're not

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open-minded even if you're not so under this specific situation the world health organization executive is perfectly correct in saying let's be open-minded and see where the data goes if he had been speaking as just a citizen he probably would have said the same thing that you would say which is i'm pretty sure it's china pretty sure it's china but because he's associated with a some research that just began into looking about the origin then he should say let's be open-minded otherwise what's the point you know why are they doing the
the the study if he already knows the answer so i think that was the right political answer who knows what he really believes
here's an interesting question so i guess the olympics coming up will be in china but the united states or at least pompeo designated china um would they say that they're committing a genocide in xinjiang no yes

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yeah so the idea is that if the united states has labeled china as committing genocide against the uyghurs somebody says japan
that's not right is it um why is there a major story about the olympics in china if all of you think the olympics are in japan what's happening right now so i guess it's the difference between the 2022 winter games versus the whatever japan is doing
summer olympics are in japan the next winter olympics i'm just reading the comments now the next winter olympics will be in china
okay so i think we cleared it up japan will be the next summer olympics next winter will be china and

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next winter will be china and can we really send our olympic athletes to a country we've designated as being involved with genocide can we i feel as if the olympics have run their course i don't think the olympics are useful anymore in pre-internet days i think the olympics were really really good because it got all the countries competing in a friendly way instead of an unfriendly way but with the internet and you know our connectivity and the way we trade with each other in the modern times do you need an olympics because i don't care about the olympics and and by the way i think the olympics are terrible for athletes just terrible because for every person who makes it to the olympics you have what thousands of people who dedicated their entire youth to trying to get in the olympics and failed what a waste what a waste the olympics i believe are not a positive force in the world

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are not a positive force in the world they don't add enough but they definitely subtract for all the thousands of athletes who wasted their youth trying to train for something that didn't happen for them just so a few can win some skiing and shooting and lifting contests that you don't care about i mean why does any of this matter is ridiculous so i don't think we should send our athletes to the olympics in china i think that china does has not has not met what i would call a minimum requirement to host something that is meant for you know peace right the the point of the olympics is everybody gets along i don't think china met the basic criteria for that now this would be of course a tragedy for the athletes who have trained and qualified for the olympics but let them join the other people who didn't make the olympics right if there are thousands of other people who trained all their you know they trained and trained and

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you know they trained and trained and didn't make the olympics if you if you throw a few hundred more into the mix who also trained and don't go to get to go to that olympics it isn't that different but it would be it would be uh sending a signal that we're kind of okay and normalize the genocide against the uyghurs let me put it this way if we attend the olympics we have normalized um genocide we would have normalized genocide don't think i don't think we can send our olympic athletes there but i think we will unfortunately uh maggie haberman is reporting that trump has a list of republicans he wants to punish governor of georgia liz cheney somebody else is on the list and i told you before that one of trump's superpowers is that he makes the biggest difference between how he treats you if you're good to him and you help him versus how he treats you if you're not good to him and you're on his bad side

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good to him and you're on his bad side that's one of the tricks of power is that you want to make the biggest difference between being on your side and not being on your side because then when people make choices they say i don't want to get that guy mad
mad or i do want to make that guy happy guy or gal
so on one hand you could certainly see it as a flaw that he's out of office and looking for revenge
yeah it's hard to defend being out of office and looking for revenge like i'm not going to defend that but i will tell you that somebody who has that characteristic is going to go far in this world whether you like it or not because that's the maximum distance between being on their good side and being on their bad side and when you establish that as your brand which trump has quite successfully gives people a reason to want to be on your side or at least not to sell you out if if

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or at least not to sell you out if if you've been on that side um so as i mentioned yesterday i tweeted cheekily that you know given that trump is being impeached after he's left office i said is it too late to impeach george washington for owning slaves i don't see how we can let that slide how do you think democrats responded to my tweet saying why not impeach george washington for slavery well if you think that i tricked democrats into supporting slavery you'd be correct i actually had a bunch of democrats coming in to support slavery now the way they did it was they said scott you have to understand that in their in their opinion what trump did is probably insurrection and against the law
law that's like breaking a law but scott you don't understand in the time of george washington it wasn't illegal

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wasn't illegal it wasn't illegal to own slaves and so the democrats tell me that george washington owning slaves scott that's not impeachable it's not even a crime if you looked at it in a historical context that's right no joke i actually tricked i didn't do it intentionally it was so i won't call it the trick i trapped accidentally democrats into defending slavery as not really that bad because it wasn't technically illegal at the time now if you've wondered how bad is tds could you get somebody to defend slavery just so they can be anti-trump and the answer is you don't have to wonder anymore i did it right in front of you i didn't do it intentionally but i created an accidental test in the wild you know not a randomized control test but
but still an interesting one

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still an interesting one let me give you my most interesting example so so in response to my tweet about impeaching george washington larry charles you may know him as writer director he was you know one of the original seinfeld writers and he was also the executive producer on the dilbert uh the dilbert animated tv show for a while so i know him well from working with him there and he also went on to direct borat and he was a showrunner on matt about you very successful guy right and very smart very talented and but he's very anti-trump so he and i sort of went different directions on on the trump thing but i've known him well since he worked on i mean at least i knew him well during the time that we're working on the show so here's what he said to my tweet he said it would be good if at least some of the people who make this fallacious argument talking about my impeach trump's impeach

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talking about my impeach trump's impeach washington stuff fallacious argument admit that owning another human being is barbaric
what let me read this again larry charles says it would be good if at least some of the people who make this fallacious argument admit that owning another human being is barbaric
what what is it was there somebody who was pro-slavery somebody thought owning another person in the year 2021 somebody thought that maybe that was just okay what are you imagining larry now here's what's interesting about this you're you're all used to seeing people make crazy tds you know trump derangement syndrome comments on the internet but usually it's people you don't know personally right it's usually just some rando and you say to yourself oh i know the problem here the problem

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oh i know the problem here the problem is the person making the comment is stupid or they're uninformed or they're intentionally lying or so you have a theory about why that person is acting the way they are except what happens when you know the person personally
larry charles is really really smart which is why he's also really successful and here's the here's the funniest part you know how i always mock people online for not understanding a joke larry charles writes jokes for a living he's written jokes with me he and i have written jokes together and somehow he's not quite seeing that i'm joking
the point of my tweet of why don't we impeach george washington is not that it's the same situation i'm not i'm not saying george washington and trump are the same guy who did the same offense i'm not saying

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who did the same offense i'm not saying that how would you interpret it that way that would be kind of a weird way to interpret it let me tell you how you should interpret my tweet impeaching george washington would be a waste of time right
likewise impeaching trump after he's left office would be a complete waste of time that's the point the point is not that trump and washington are the same guy doing the same things the point is that they're both waste of time now democrats will argue they're not waste of time because it might prevent trump from running in the future to which i say that's not going to happen in what world do you think trump could successfully and the successfully part is the part that matters in what world do you think he could successfully run for president again i mean he could run but successfully

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i mean he could run but successfully that door is really closed would he run for
for you know some people are just for fun or speculating he would run for the senate and in florida he's not going to run for the senate after being president that nobody does that all right and certainly he's not going to do that so any any notion somebody says don't count him out uh i'll let me let me acknowledge this um he does have a way of coming from behind etc so so he is definitely that a comeback kind of personality and so if you say don't count them out i get what you're saying you know i get it as a concept but there are way too many people who supported him before who would say i think he's aged out you know i think i think the way things ended the coronavirus situation for example just makes it impractical for him to run again so given the impracticality of it it's

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so given the impracticality of it it's just a waste of time to impeach him it's nothing but revenge and
and trying to basically paint paint all republicans as insurrectionists so i see the impeachment trial as a way to impeach citizens i don't think it has much to do with trump it's a way to impeach republicans for having supported him that's what it feels like to me so in a sense the senate is uh impeaching me and impeaching anybody who may have ever supported trump about anything so i feel like i'm getting impeached quite uh quite seriously all right so just wrapping up on the larry charles thing um larry charles is one of the greatest guys in the world let me just say that as clearly as possible when i talk to anybody who's ever worked with him they freaking love this guy and so did i i mean i do i mean i just love the guy he's just a

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i mean i just love the guy he's just a really good person in my opinion but he doesn't like trump and i think that may distort his perceptions in an interesting way but he's a great guy um rand paul gave a terrific speech in the senate in the senate trial and i saw some real leadership there that i liked a lot and he the point he made if i could just summarize it is that no democrats were asking if bernie sanders said something that incited violence and he gave examples and nobody said that
well i guess bernie sanders says things that you could interpret as inciting the person who shot steve scalise luckily he survived and then he went on saying no democrat we'll ask whether maxine waters incited violence when she literally told her supporters to confront trump officials in public and that's pretty direct that's pretty

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and that's pretty direct that's pretty direct and so he goes through the you know the complete hypocrisy and when he was done i thought that was really good i really like the way he he took it because his point was not that we should impeach these democrats the point is that we should treat it the same and live in a world with free speech and if you don't live in a world with free speech you're in big trouble so the the bigger the bigger principle is not to punish each other but to live in a world with free speech
uh i love the way he presented it his presentation was strong lots of leadership said the right thing but have i ever told you that the hypocrisy argument is not persuasive i say it a lot the hypocrisy argument has no persuasive power it's just an observation you should definitely make it

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definitely make it you should definitely make the you know point it out when somebody's being hypocritical it's part of the mix but nobody ever changed their mind because hypocrisy had been pointed out he he needed some little extra juice on that to put it over the line because as i understand that five republicans joined the democrats to kill his point of order that would have stopped the process so the people who objected the ones you would imagine susan collins lisa murkowski mitt romney ben sasse batumi so people who are known to be mildly republican went to the other side so it didn't work out but i thought it was some of the best leadership i've seen and it's too early to back somebody for president for 2024 but he's on the short list i think rand paul is i've said it before one of my favorite uh reasonable politicians he and

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uh reasonable politicians he and unfortunately he might be too rational to be president meaning that the public won't understand a person who's trying to follow the data and speak logically and speak to principle i don't know if the public can even appreciate that anymore it's like it doesn't exist as a as a path to the presidency it's like it's almost as if you have to lie to the public and you have to be irrational to get anything done and you know of course i've argued that forever i've seen a number of people suggest a ticket of rand paul and um let's see let me just look at who said this uh and as user fart storm just said of course i had to look up your name and it happened to be fart storm but it's with a ph fart but tulsi gabbard as a vp now of course let me say what every woman who just heard that will probably say quite rightly why

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will probably say quite rightly why would it be rand at the top of the ticket in tulsa yet as the vice president why don't you reverse that perfectly good question and uh i have nothing to add to that it's just it's a perfectly good question um so that would be a strong ticket that would be pretty strong whichever way they went that would be a strong ticket alan dershowitz says weighed in on this question of whether the president can be impeached after leaving office what do you think he said what do you think alan dershowitz says about whether trump can be impeached after leaving office well alan dershowitz does this thing i i didn't even know this was fair but apparently he did it and you can get away with it ah i can't believe it but and this is weird you're not going to believe it when i tell you but he read the constitution did you know you could do that that you

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did you know you could do that that you could read the constitution and then it's got words in it and if you read the words you'll know what it means i i didn't even know that was a thing but thanks to alan dershowitz who did read the constitution and he tells us this you know and of course i literally had never looked at the words that are relevant to this point so i'm glad that dershowitz did he says that the constitution says something like this quote that the president shall be removed from office on impeachment and conviction
not by the expiration of his term before the impeachment and that he also says that mandate mandates that quote judgment and cases of impeachment shall not extend further than to removal and disqualification so the constitution refers to removal and disqualification what does the word and mean it means both

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and mean it means both right this and this if it meant one or the other what would be the word that they would use instead of and it's a word or if the constitution had allowed you to to remove somebody from office and or disqualify them then you could have the and which would be both or optionally you could have the or so that you could have just one or just the other but it doesn't say and or and it doesn't say
say or it says and how do you interpret and as anything but both of them right and given that that's not an option to do both of them because he can't be removed from an office he's not in doesn't the constitution quite clearly and unambiguously say as dershowitz apparently is arguing that

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as dershowitz apparently is arguing that you can't you can't remove from office somebody who's gone and therefore you can't satisfy the and therefore the framers did not intend it to be something after office um sounds like a good argument to me and as i've said many times if dershowitz has an opinion just just stop having your own opinion just take his opinion it's going to be better than your opinion right he does this well you don't just wait for his opinion and just adopt it he's one of the few people who is willing to take an opinion on any political side by following the law once you find somebody who can do that oh and by the way i would add him to my list of people you should look to to know if the news is real or not
here's a here's a question how do you think historians will describe the 2021

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describe the 2021 um uh let's say assault on the capitol do you think that when time has gone by and that the serious historians not not biased people just serious historians who just want to get it right they don't have a political bias a few years have passed nobody nobody's going to win or lose anything because of their opinion what are serious opinion serious historians going to say are they going to say it was an insurrection are they going to say it was a coup or are they going to say things got out of hand and people people did some things they shouldn't have done i feel as if no historian is going to label this as an insurrection and if they do i don't think you could ever trust history again well you probably shouldn't trust it now you know history is always written by the winners but will it matter say in 10 years from now if a historian is just trying to get the

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if a historian is just trying to get the story right i don't think they're going to take a political position on it and call it the big lie i don't think they're going to call it anything but a protest they got in hand because what is the argument for it to be an insurrection
who goes to an insurrection uh and thinks yay if we get control of this empty room we rule the country was anybody thinking that and suppose the worst case had happened suppose they'd taken a hostage and suppose the hostage had been worst case scenario mike pence or nancy pelosi nobody wants to see any of that kind of stuff happen but what if it had would that group have then been in charge of the united states no literally nothing works that way you can't conquer a country by controlling their empty rooms and one or two politicians that's not a

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and one or two politicians that's not a thing the the beauty of living in a democracy is that you can take the leader of the country you could have kidnapped the president and and it wouldn't change the nature of the country because the leader is not the country now if we'd been you know a dictatorship or something maybe taking you know removing the dictator would be a you know that would be an actual coup but since we don't have a dictator you could remove all of them and the country would just go on ticket we would just elect some more and just keep on going we would just pretend the insurrectionist didn't exist so how do how do historians call that any kind of an insurrection it's going to be pretty ridiculous so there's a bombshell story from seth abramson it's a bombshell you're not going to believe this story it was a shocker and everybody's buzzing about it and it goes like this

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about it and it goes like this uh on january 5th at the trump international hotel and you're not you're not going to believe this uh a number of people got together
did you believe it bombshell whoa yeah some people got together yeah in some rooms they'd talk to each other and i don't think we can let this stand that's the kind of that's the kind of bombshell reporting that we're looking for from our journalist class so seth abramson i think you've done a solid thing for the world by revealing and it's shocking it really is shocking that there were people who met and i don't even know how to say this but

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but they talk to each other yeah they did they talked to each other there may have been questions and replies they could have gone it that far it could have gone as far as people asking questions or offering opinions and then people replying that's how bad things got in the meeting where a few people got together and talked and i feel as if something must be done about this now seth of course added some extras to the story to make it a bombshell and one of the extras is what if what if and by the way there's no evidence of this but what if the people who were talking had suggested or communicated with some of the protesters who ended up in the capital and told them you're gonna have to get inside the capitol

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inside the capitol huh because as seth abramson points out what would be the point of a protest where people are just standing around saying what they like how is that going to change the outcome that was the process that was happening at that moment you know inside inside the building and so
so seth abramson assumes or not assumes but he
he let's say he speculates that there's a possibility a strong possibility that there's a smoking gun in here and there's somebody in that room they may have talked to each other and decided to send the message to maybe ali
ali alexander there's some reporting that kimberly guilfoyle may have placed a phone call to ali alexander who is organizing the stop the steal now because that's reported how likely is it true that kimberly guilfoyle placed a phone call

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kimberly guilfoyle placed a phone call that evening to ali alexander what should you assume about the likelihood that that's true it's reported by you know a notable national journalist type i would say coin flip 50 50. any story about um somebody said they saw something and somebody thought somebody did something it doesn't matter the source that's that's no better than a 50 chance of being true so if it's a coin flip it's almost like it didn't happen might happen maybe didn't well it's not the same as it
it you know as nothing being reported but
the speculation that people who talk to each other may have committed a crime which would have been inspiring an insurrection to get into the building which would be the the high criminal part

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why is it a bombshell that people who talked might have been plotting a crime because isn't that true of every group that talks is there any group that talks privately who you could say for sure if you weren't in the room where they were not plotting some crimes i i've been in corporate meetings in which we were plotting crimes but you know i suppose i suppose anybody could pull out a crime but that's not a story that people got together and talked if that's all you know trying to connect that to some chain of events that would make them all criminals and you have to go to jail that is a stretch that's a stretch and it's also a stretch for something ridiculous because seriously seriously do you think do you think that the people in that meeting the you know that do you think that don jr

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think that don jr eric uh kimberly guilfoyle do you think that uh i guess corey lewandowski bunch of people do you think that that group of people literally were suggesting that somebody get into the capitol buildings i don't think so that is the least likely thing that could have happened in that meeting and is reported as oh there's a good chance x happened when any reasonable person would say i think i'm a reasonable person in my opinion it's the least likely thing that happened the least likely thing is that they called for that kind of you know that kind of approach insane all right michael schellenberger was tweeting that apparently in california i'm so proud of my state prisoners people actually in jail have stolen 31 billion

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have stolen 31 billion what let me try to finish this sentence uh murderers and other prisoners in california have stolen 31 billion okay if i'd heard that prisoners in california had stole stolen 31 dollars i'd say to myself well that sounds like criminals criminals will steal your 31 dollars don't turn around and leave that on the table because those criminals they're going to take your 31 dollars if they'd said 3 100 i'd say that sounds about right maybe 3100 yeah okay 30 30 000 i'd say that's a lot but yeah maybe that could have been stolen um if they'd said 310 000 they stole i would have said maybe prisoners can be pretty clever they may have gotten that much if they'd said 31 million i would have said come on come on they're prisoners

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they're prisoners they're literally in prison how do you steal 31 million dollars while you're in prison it wouldn't sound believable to me and in fact it's not believable they stole 31 billion and here's the best part of the story or the worst that the person who is in charge the california labor secretary is who joe biden has uh tapped to be his department of labor secretary so the the person who is in charge of that just got promoted so there's your news perfectly normal if you let prisoners still steal 31 billion dollars from you that's grounds for promotion and the democrat party

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um apparently in chicago there were some it was a meeting of white supremacists so there were 80 white supremacists who rallied in downtown chicago but a researcher for the adl which is the
the what is the adl they look for they look for
for people like white supremacists so they have some authority in this situation and they said the good news is that's pretty much the entire membership of the group nationwide so there were 80 people who came to chicago white supremacist but it's probably all the white supremacists in the entire united states who are part of that group now before you say ha ha there are only 80 in the united states it doesn't take many white supremacists to do a mass murder right now i would imagine most of those 80 people are perfectly peaceful but have you know odious opinions but out of 80 people

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opinions but out of 80 people who would label themselves white supremacists do you think there's nobody in the 80 if they're willing to publicly label themselves as white supremacist you don't think anybody in that 80 would do something bad on a big scale so i would definitely worry about 80 white supremacists especially if they have any kind of organization but the other context is this is one organization and it doesn't uh it doesn't mean that there aren't you know the kkk it doesn't mean that there aren't other groups like this but here's a question for you how many people are in antifa if i would like to know uh by official accounts how many white supremacists there are that's a good thing to know uh any is too many and but i'd also like to know you know how many in the kkk how many in whatever militias that may have bad opinions in in the opinion of these people but

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in in the opinion of these people but i'd also like to know how many people are in antifa antifa and how many people in black lives matter who you know would call themselves members or so wouldn't you like to know that let's let's see the membership numbers of all the groups because i'm not going to i'm not going to run away from you know labeling any of them i'm not going to run away from labeling anybody a white supremacist group if they are and i'm not going to run away from labeling antifa as a domestic terrorist group if they are so let's let's just get the whole number why do we only hear the number of white supremacists
um somebody say the white nationalists want separation so you're making a distinction between white nationalists and white supremacists are you claiming that the people who went to chicago call themselves white nationalists as opposed to white supremacists i don't know what your point is but there is a difference

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there is a difference i've argued that there's no such thing as white supremacists because i don't know of any white person who hasn't noticed that other ethnic groups are doing better than the white supremacists themselves that the weird thing about white supremacists is they tend not to be the people who are super successful in life and they're looking at other ethnic groups who have members who are completely successful so there how how do you have a philosophy that you personally are a supremacist over somebody who's doing way better than you're doing the other they're way smarter if you did a standardized test they would beat you specifically you know forget about any general averages or whatever you think about that the the people that you're uh you're discriminating against or want to have a lot of people in that group or are killing it way better than you are

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are killing it way better than you are in every way right they're people who have more talent more brains better looking you know you name it there's no characteristic in which the white supremacists themselves personally are not far outstripped by lots of members of every ethnic group and so how is it that uh you know how is it that they're supremacists i don't know if you i guess you can find 80 people who will believe anything but i don't even know how that makes sense
um some say they should be doing better except for as the competent are saying is they're blaming jews for holding them back but again that's the opposite of being a supremacist that's just being a racist now i'm certainly claiming that there are plenty of racists in the world i'm not denying that that's the most probably one of the most common things you'll find anywhere but finding people who literally think they're superior

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they're superior i think that ended some time ago but they're certainly white nationalists and there are people who are racists of all kinds the white nationalists are kind of a special category because i do think that you could be a uh so this is not my own opinion i'm just talking about other people here i do think that a person who is not me could have the opinion that hey let's just stop trying to get along and let's be separate if we prefer being separate that's a reasonable opinion even if you disagree with it but it's not practical we don't have really a practical way to you know have everybody separated and the minute you did that you know the minute you separated by uh by race and you said to the white nationalists hey white nationalists good news all you guys can go live by yourself and you will never be bothered by any other types of people what would happen immediately

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what would happen immediately immediately the white nationalists would find ways to fight with each other it's just human you know that they would decide that some are rich and some are poor they decide that some are catholic and some are not they'd find some reason to hate each other so imagining that imagining that you can identify a group and separate them and then they can go live happily ever after without having to deal with other people a little bit
optimistic i just don't see it's somebody says i'm guilty of mind reading here i'm just describing what a white nationalist is by definition and if somebody wanna wants to live with themselves uh you can want it but i don't know how practical it would be you just end up hating people for other reasons all right that is all i need to say today

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today so as i understand it tomorrow morning i'm going to wake up and i i should have time to do one of these but um the next morning i will be flying overnight so i'm going to miss uh i'm going to miss one so if you don't see me
that's why and then i'll be back and we'll be i'll be live streaming on youtube at the same time as periscope when i get back when periscope goes away as it will in march um i'll be streaming from at least youtube and i'll add probably add some platforms and if the locals platform has streaming by then i'll of course be using that
where 33 masks i will all right that's all for now talk to you tomorrow