Episode 1120 Scott Adams: Double-Nobel Prize Nominations, Antifa Ally Shitler, NFL, Mueller Phones

Date: 2020-09-11 | Duration: 49:20

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• September 11th

• Joe Biden’s morning advisor session

• 2nd Nobel Peace Prize nomination for President Trump

• 1st NFL game last night versus Me Too movement

• Dozens of Mueller SCO phones illegally data-wiped?

• My tweet: Antifa allied with Hitler in 1930s

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hey everybody got in come on in there's time still time to get a good seat up front for
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everything better eventually it's called the simultaneous sip and it happens now
delightful so um it's september 11th as you know and you know how sometimes bad news turns into accidental good news you know the bad part is still there but there's something good that comes out of it and vice versa you you know we you never know what kind of
of unintended consequences anything has as horrible as 9 11 was you know we're all on the same page on that as horrible as 9 11 was think about how important it is today like literally today think about what the united states is going through as it approaches the election we are in full out divisive mode

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full out divisive mode and we're running at 100 miles an hour divisive divisive devices you know it's like it's like two uh muscle cars doing a drag race it's like it's just two cars and they're going 100 miles an hour bam it's 9 11. 9 11 hits and all of your looks like now tomorrow we'll go back to fighting tomorrow we'll be divided along racial lines we'll be divided along economic lines we'll be divided along gender lines you know as we as we like to be but today not today nope not today so think about the fact that just by historical coincidence it didn't have to happen this way this september september 11th

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this september september 11th every four years will just be that little pause that reminds us oh wait a minute wait a minute we're all on the same side and you just need to remember that every now and then so i'm just glad that september 11th happens in september because it's exactly the time that this country will need every four years you know obviously would be reminded every year but every fourth year it takes on a completely different meaning and i've never i've never really felt that until this this election this being so divisive but um let's be thankful that september 11th happened in september it doesn't make any of those lives come back doesn't make it any less of a tragedy but if there's one thing that this country does well it's capitalizing on a crisis we're really good at that and if we can find some value out of

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and if we can find some value out of charred embers i mean literally we can say oh here's some charcoal i'll make a barbecue and you know maybe we can maybe we can dig down some value of this this september 11th uh eventually now um i was wondering what joe biden's morning looks like on a day like today and so i was just trying to picture it like the movie in my head of he wakes up and at some point probably there's an advisor there pretty quickly i'd imagine he's probably swarmed with advisors and he probably says some version of so what's the news what's what's happening today i'm just imagining this visor saying well um so today's not ideal because it's september 11th so all day today you can't be a dick you just you're just

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you can't be a dick you just you're just gonna have to take a day off from being a dick and today would be a bad day to let's say promote your race hoaxes that are the basis of your campaign because that's a little divisive and just not today it's september 11th so joe says all right all right well i guess i won't be making news and he literally said that this morning to the news crew he said i won't be making news today because he just wanted to treat things seriously because it's september 11th not not a bad approach you know good role model kind of a thing uh but you know there might be a few other news things that pop up and you could see him saying to his advisors all right so it's september 11th what else anything else happened today yeah yeah a couple other things happened today number one remember how you thought it was a fluke when you saw that first poll that showed

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when you saw that first poll that showed that african-american support for trump was at record levels and you knew that couldn't be true right and remember how the second time you saw a poll that said the same thing you said to yourself well you know that's just two that can't really be real can it well rasmussen will have some numbers coming out today from north carolina and uh you might see you might see that there's an actual trend here it turns out that this president probably will break a record for black support did you see that coming now when i say break a record for black support i mean of rep republicans republican presidents right obviously not for democrats but

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obviously not for democrats but how many of you would have predicted how many of your filters would have predicted in 2015 or 16 that trump would be legendary like not just do okay but break records for black support how many of you had a filter on life that predicted that was likely i did because i predicted it directly publicly many times i said this president's gonna break records for black support here we are and then joe biden says to his advisor in the morning after he gets his coffee oh that's not good i it's 9 11 so i can't use my race hoaxes today so i'm kind of unarmed and now you're telling me that uh i the main reason that i even got nominated is because i would have black support and you're telling me that trump will have more black support than any republican president maybe ever except you know maybe lincoln

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maybe ever except you know maybe lincoln or something and then the advisor says oh ah there's just one more thing just one more thing it's not a big deal but
but election is coming up and your competitor uh president trump he just got nominated for um i don't know how to say this ah a second nobel peace prize uh for his kosovo serbia agreement and and helping that get done so you're running against a guy who will have the highest african-american support of any republican president who just got nominated for two
two nobel peace prizes now you say to yourself ah anybody can

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now you say to yourself ah anybody can get nominated being nominated doesn't mean you won but if you look at the details of why he got nominated they're pretty solid nobody made anything up nobody's fact checking it nobody said hey there's no kosovo serbia agreement nobody's saying that nobody's saying what uae israel deal that doesn't exist even the fake news doesn't say that apparently president trump has earned two he's earned two nobel peace prize nominations but i think if you look at the details whether or not he gets you know the actual prize he earned the prizes he earned two nobel peace prizes

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he earned two nobel peace prizes and joe biden has to wake up in the morning and say well what am i running against oh are you kidding me so in the history of presidents nobody has ever run against somebody who had just got nominated for did i mention two nobel peace prizes [Laughter] now what i've been telling you that i think the president's gonna win in a landslide but even i didn't think it was gonna be this bad
and so if you take into account that he's starting to depending on what polls you're looking at he's drawing even or pulling ahead in the battleground states biden continues to just decompose and uh cnn had lots of good things to say about kamala harris because you know kamala harris is considered not just the vice presidential candidate but because it's biden people think of

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but because it's biden people think of her as almost a shadow president situation you know maybe she'll be the real power right away or soon or something and so you'd expect that the people promoting her would have some good things to say about her about her policies and her accomplishments and stuff like that so let me check the news let's see what cnn is saying about karma harris there's probably lots of news about her accomplishments i'm thinking if not her accomplishments then certainly there's going to be lots of news about the policies that she promotes checking here it is there's a story about kabul harris on the front page of cnn clicking that
uh in her skinny jeans apparently there's quite a bit of excitement because she wears a particular kind of footwear sort of a sneaker-ish situation but there's probably that's just the

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but there's probably that's just the lead-in obviously there's stuff here about her accomplishments and her policies looking looking now it's still about her footwear
nope that's all we got that's all we got so i don't know if i mentioned yet but president trump was nominated for two two nobel peace prizes which he's earned both of them but he's got some strong competition because on the other side there's somebody who's wearing sneakers who lots of people think is a good fashion statement so that should be close
i would like to give you my impression of every democrat that i've been debating online and they they seem to be able to win arguments by facial expressions and not arguing

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facial expressions and not arguing and i'd like to give you my impression of dale representing every democrat that i've debated with this week and it goes like this i'll first start in my character played by myself you know mathematicians say that two plus two equals four and then dale the democrat will come in to fact-check me and he'll fact-check me this way
why don't they just call you dilbert's boss
did you see what i did there oh yeah show me your sources what sources what college did you go to look at this guy two plus two equals four [Applause] idiot idiot uh this is why you support trump you're just thinking two plus two equals

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you're just thinking two plus two equals four [Laughter] oh idiots idiots i i gotta say i thought somebody else was the dumbest person in the world but now that i see you with your two plus two stuff i'm like well now you're the dumbest person in the world
obviously scene
so yeah the the wide-eyed tell did you see the interview uh with with uh i guess the major one of the major advisors for joe biden on his campaign his name is duck low spelled just like a duck d-u-c-k-l-o that's his last name duck low so joe biden who literally was in a basement below the ground ducking questions his main advisor is

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ducking questions his main advisor is duck low i think the simulation is talking to us maybe we can figure out what it means but the funny part was that i guess was bret bear who asked him directly did um did biden agree with the travel ban
ban from china and ducklow he gets the wide-eyed look now if i've told you nothing democrats all lie with a the similar liar face it's where their eyes get really big to try to convince you of something that didn't happen and so ducklow gets the big eyes and he says there is plenty of fact-checking bret bear i could give it to i mean i could send you the fact-checking that said that joe biden did not disagree with the travel ban and then bret bear says just clarifying so you're saying that joe biden agreed with the travel ban when president trump suggests it you're

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when president trump suggests it you're saying he agreed with it i'm saying i can send you all the fact checking it's been debunked and debunked and fact-checked and it everybody knows that joe biden did not disagree with it bret baer says okay just clarifying you haven't quite answered the question you've ducked low no bret bear didn't say that but i wish he had duck low but that's not exactly the answer to the question so i'll ask again are you saying that joe biden agreed with president trump well he didn't get an answer to that as you might expect but he did give very big eyes like that if you were listening to this on audio only you're missing my tremendous impressions in which i make big bug eyes and

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in which i make big bug eyes and well you're just missing the best part uh
uh police departments are trying to dispel the rumors that antifa starring the wild wildfires in the west coast
and i guess they're they're starting i guess antifa is very particular because wildfires don't destroy many black businesses so i think antifa is more concentrated on burning up black businesses and urban centers they don't say it that way but that's how it turns out they burned other businesses too just to be fair to be fair they do burn other people's businesses so in that way you could say they are pursuing equality in a way um we'll talk a little more about antifungal moment so india this was reported on cnn's website the india may have a lot of problems with their reporting

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with their reporting apparently in india most people die at home or somewhere that's not a hospital so india has a real trouble uh counting the number of coronavirus related deaths because so many people just die at home or not under medical care but here was a interesting statement again it's important that this was on a cnn website and it says and i quote with more tests authorities are detecting more cases what what this is cnn is stating that in india if you test more you'll detect more virus because i'm sure that i have been mocked for suggesting that the president may have made sense when he said that the more you test the more virus you will detect because that's why you test to detect virus and all the smart people told me that didn't make sense may i do an impression

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didn't make sense may i do an impression of every smart person who's telling me why it's so dumb to think that if you test more you will detect more oh look at this guy why don't you stay in your lane uh pointing here boss much so that was the intellectual debate i've been getting on the question of does testing find more cases
um so did you watch the uh the first nfl game last night did anybody watch that
if you saw the stands i don't know what um
um i don't know what kind of rules they have about in person but the stands were largely empty there were people there but there were lots of i don't know if that was just the social distancing rules or just not a people a lot of people went or what but it wasn't well attended and yet when when the players locked arms to

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when when the players locked arms to support um their social positions there was a lot of bowing a lot of bowing for the fact that there weren't many people there it was a lot of bowing for not many people in attendance making me think that there were more bows than there were supporters
now my take on it is that sports are not terribly important just in general i wouldn't care if all professional sports ended tomorrow just wouldn't care i stopped watching professional sports a while ago but the real question is whether you need to mix your social messaging in every product or can you separate your social messaging from your product if if the sports game is the product doesn't make sense to always mix those so
so without without debating whether it's good to

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good to talk about equality of course it is you know without debating whether it's good to
to always strive for a more equal society of course it is so the message you know the the idea behind it of course is fine everybody i think everybody agrees with it on in concept but do you need to put it in your sports does it have to be everywhere and i saw the most scathing that's right the deepest cutting criticism of the nfl that i've ever seen are you ready for this i don't believe anybody's ever said anything worse about the nfl than what i'm gonna and i didn't write down who said it but it was a twitter user and said that uh you know the uh this uh why can i never remember all the
the the victims names i think i'm supposed to remember all the victims but the the gentleman who got shot seven times but survived

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times but survived and he was alleged to have been a sexual assaulter and somebody content somebody on twitter commented that there's a real woman in the united states a living real woman not a conceptual woman not in principle somebody might exist that but an actual woman with a name and a life who someday will turn on tv and see the name of her rapist on the on the written on the helmets of the football players
imagine that imagine that you were literally a victim of a sex crime and you have to watch the nfl all these multimillionaires write the name of your attacker allegedly on on their helmet and then play a game in front of the whole country think about that that's actually the the

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think about that that's actually the the most cutting criticism i think i've ever heard maybe the worst criticism i've ever heard of any professional league for doing anything not even on this topic you could say any topic putting putting that guy's name on their helmets i would say you'd have to nominate that for one of the worst things anybody's ever done not just in sports but if you if you if you if you don't count you know actual physical violence to stuff you know that's bad that's the worst stuff but of things that are not physically violent but are let's say socially or psychologically
devastating just imagine that you were a victim of a crime and you see the vic the perpetrator's name according to you on the helmets of the nfl if you ever watch another nfl game i

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if you ever watch another nfl game i don't know why you would really i just don't know why you would because they've completely thrown you know women and me too under the bus and i don't think they could be further from social justice warriors which is what they'd like to be they'd like to be you know if i could use that term they'd like to be on the right side of history they'd like to be on the right side of justice but boy did they miss it you know that i think the players intentions are great i wouldn't i don't even you know i don't fault any of the players for doing what they need to do freedom of speech blah blah blah but man did they miss their sh they missed the target by a mile there there's another story in the news that is so mind-boggling that you can't actually hold it in your mind for long in other words there's something that if you could accept that it's true and it is true there's no

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and it is true there's no there's no argument about whether it's true if you can accept that it's true you just can't process it in your brain to do something about it and here's the story that apparently several dozen phones associated with the mueller investigation were accidentally wiped of all their data so that when the uh the uh who was it the department the inspector general wanted to review them that they were not available and the excuses they gave were physical damage in a few cases but that they'd forgotten their own passwords and they tried their password too many times and it deleted their phone now have you ever tried entering the wrong password in your phone it makes you wait to do it again if you do it too many times you'd have to really work hard to delete your data like it would have to be a project where you'd come back to it every several hours say all right put in one more password

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say all right put in one more password timeout i'll come back to this hours later now i don't think there's anybody dumb enough to think that these are real accidents and these are obviously excuses they're transparent excuses for people who wiped the data that could have been relevant to the inspector general now that is so mind-bogglingly big that nothing will happen do you get that the the idea of it you almost can't hold it in your brain like i i can't conceive that that there were dozens several dozen several dozen phones people deleted evidence and these were people working in a legal field for the united states and they were they were looking for crimes of exactly this nature

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crimes of exactly this nature they were looking for this kind of crime obstruction of justice now i don't know how you could see it any other way but destroying evidence that they knew could be later discoverable because it might be relevant feels to me exactly like obstruction of justice and not a little bit i'm talking about coordinated because obviously there must have been some coordination i'm talking about massive obvious direct you almost can't hold it in your mind and because and i mean this literally that you can't hold it as true because it's just too ridiculous too ridiculous and because your brain can't quite process it i think they actually will just get away with it it's kind of a weird situation that is so unusual you just can't really process it
it that's what i think all right i drew out a bunch of

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a bunch of trolls as i like to do they were all confused about what i was saying and what i was doing but i i made a tweet that i said that uh you know antifa i'll paraphrase my own tweet the antiphon would be surprised to learn that the original antifa fought on the same side with uh hitler against the weimar republic and um now
i can tell you because you're you're my insiders so let me tell you what i was thinking and why i sent that tweet number one do i think it's relevant that a german organization in the 30s had the same name as you know at least translated it's the same name as antifa in portland in 2020. do i think that that matters no no oh i don't think that matters it has nothing to do with anything i also don't think it matters

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also don't think it matters that uh the kkk used to be you know more of a democrat kind of a thing because if it's not relevant to 2020 i don't care it's just history it's not a history that matters it's just a fact that doesn't matter you know because all that matters is today and so the the first tongue-in-cheek that people should have known it should have been a red flag how serious i was about this the first flag should have been is he serious that this unrelated group because there's no connection through time they're unrelated and i guess it was a swedish group there was also some kind of anti-fog that was separate from both germany separate from the current one separate one separate from the modern version of antifa in europe so i think there are at least four versions of antifa i guess the u.s one has some connection to europe but no i was not serious

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but no i was not serious not even a little bit serious that there's that it matters what antifa in germany and 1930s did i don't think it matters it's just a different group different circumstance but i knew it would bring out the trolls and here's the here's the next part um just to be provocative i said that antifa in germany in the 30s was allied with hitler now is that an over claim i i gave people the link on wikipedia and it will tell you that the german antifa and hitler's group fought each other which is not like allies right that would be the opposite because they were fighting each other but at the same time they were both fighting the common government that they both wanted to overthrow now the government was overthrown hitler came to power and the first one of the first things he did was get rid of antifa because they were they were useful

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because they were they were useful fighting the government but as soon as hitler was in power they were no longer useful and so he dealt with them harshly so the historians are coming after me and saying god scott scott you idiot you've pointy haired idiot read some history where are you making up these stories about antifa being allied with the nazis and then i do then i do this are you waiting for the second part i say well i get why you might not like that word allied but they were fighting on the same side meaning that they were both opposed to the government we'd agree on that the historians will agree on that we also agree that they you know fought each other a little bit doesn't take doesn't remove from the fact that they had a common enemy but here's the thing it's a lot like 20 20 antifa and black lives matter here's why it's similar have you seen antifa and black lives matter get into any

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and black lives matter get into any scuffles i think you have i think you have now they've been minor and and primarily blm and antifa are opposed to the the current government current you know systems i guess but what would happen if they prevailed suppose suppose antifa and black lives matter overthrew the government i don't think it's going to happen but imagine they did just like antifa and hitler overthrew the german government what would happen if black lives matter and antifa somehow came to power would they say i'm glad we're all on the same side let's form a government let's part antifa and part black lives matter no antifa is against governments no antifa are anarchists they don't want to be part of a government black lives matter they're you know

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black lives matter they're you know they're marxist etc but even they like a bernie sanders kind of
of capitalism with a lot of socialism overlaid but they still want a capitalist system i think most of them do you know maybe some of the leaders are radical but most of black lives matter you know rank and file kind of people
they're not looking to get rid of bernie sanders socialism they kind of like it antifa they can't live with any kind of capitalism even a bernie sanders capitalism is way too much so black lives matter and antifa are allied only because they have a common enemy but they are not on the same team and if they ever came to power they would have to fight who would win well i'd bet on black lives matter frankly in part because do you know who would be on the same side as black lives matter if they ever decided to turn on antifa

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decided to turn on antifa republicans black lives matter would have plenty of allies because the people who want capitalism now of course all of this is silly and it will never happen but what i wanted to do was to get people to think through the analogy and just make them uncomfortable about the current situation because of how they feel about the the other one now here was the other thing that i learned while looking into this apparently anti-fa in germany the original 1930s version when they used the word fascist all it meant was capitalism that's it it didn't matter if you had you know classical classic fascist elements if you were capitalist but it's just fascist by definition so when the antifa people say to me i have to get my dale beard again to say this as they do often ah scott

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often ah scott uh anti-fascist the it's in the name uh how could you be confused it's in the name did i mention it's in the name anti means opposed are you following me so far anti means opposed to second word fascist fascist opposed to fascist therefore antifa is opposed to fascists scott do you not understand am i talking too fast do you not following this yet to which i say what does it mean in germany didn't mean that so it is obvious from the original antifa that the word fascist sort of means just anybody who's making money basically capitalism if you're making money in any way you're a fascist so uh all i wanted to get out of this

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so uh all i wanted to get out of this was to sort of stir the the thinking pot and just make people uncomfortable and maybe they would shift in their opinions over time so it's just a little context that i thought was fun um i'm being accused of being the dumbest guy in the world in the world uh for for that tweet but people don't realize that it was more mischievous than historical all right um
so lindsay uh lindsey graham says there's a big surprise coming in 10 to 12 days about the about the situation with russia collusion and the investigation about how that went down so something big coming in 10 to 12 days now i don't know if it'll be 10 to 12 days but the fact that the fact that the durham investigation looks like it might wrap up before the election

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election that is an interesting coincidence in france the hospitalization rates are up for coronavirus covet 19 and i use this as further evidence that leadership is an illusion or at least leadership as a major variable and how people are doing with coronavirus is probably just an illusion and the illusion goes like this if you're democrats and you're not good at analyzing stuff president trump didn't do enough testing okay what was he supposed to test with was the president supposed to do lots of testing with the test kits that didn't exist and that even the people who were responsible for the test kits didn't know they didn't exist because they had test kits they just didn't know they were defective so was the president supposed to magically make test kits or magically know they needed

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test kits or magically know they needed to be made when the experts themselves didn't know that and where were all the test kits from the obama administration that he could just use what about all that time he lost in preparation where he could have been getting ppe ready wait a minute why would the pres why would trump have to have to need time to to get a bunch of ppe when obama had a gigantic storehouse of it just in case oh oh did i get that wrong wait are you telling me that obama and biden when they were in office they didn't have a gigantic national supply of ppe i don't know why they didn't have that since they knew this pandemic was coming and they knew they would need it can you explain to me why they were so aware of it coming and yet we did not have warehouses full of ppe to be to be ready huh so it's only people who are and then the third point there

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third point there is that testing and contact tracing only works if you have a small group of infections and maybe a an island situation or a small country if you get it early maybe maybe you can tamp it down but if you're the united states and people are driving in and walking in and flying in from every direction and you're one of the main destinations on planet earth and it's just impossible to stop it all i mean no even if you stop travel from china still people walking across the border still coming in from canada who came from china so the united states never really had the option in a realistic way of of doing contact tracing and stopping it while it was small you can fantasize that that was possible but it wasn't it wasn't was it possible in new zealand i think so i think it was if president trump had been the leader of new zealand could

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had been the leader of new zealand could he have done the same thing that the leader of new zealand did which seems to be effective probably do you think the leader of new zealand just made her own decisions or or do you think she talked to her experts and the experts said well we're a small country don't have many infections i think we can test our way through this because we do have enough tests to do that and then she said well i don't have a better idea well i'm not the expert if that's what you say will work let's do that now replace her with president trump experts come and they say we've got enough test kits we're a small country we can test let's do it does trump does president trump then say ah no i don't think so no no he says the same thing that the leader of new zealand said yeah let's do that you're the experts let's do that so if you are unsophisticated and you don't have

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are unsophisticated and you don't have much experience in life or you've never read the dilbert comic strip you might still be suffering the illusion that leadership is a big variable in how things turn out it really isn't because most of life in big organizations is people at lower levels surfacing their expertise and then the leader says yes or no but it's not really the leader deciding because it's very rare for the leader to say well there's your expert opinion i'm going to go a different direction because if you make a mistake that way you're done right so as long as everybody's following directions from the experts and the experts largely were in agreement around the world wasn't a lot of it's not like there was one country where all the experts were on a different page that didn't happen so we should see that the most the most predictable thing that you could see is that hypothetically if you could just switch all the leaders you know just snap your fingers and all

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you know just snap your fingers and all the leaders go into different countries and they're just as smart just as capable as before but now magically they know the language and the culture and stuff so you just replace the leaders how do how do those countries turn out in terms of coronavirus exactly the same exactly the same so the big illusion that the fake news and the people who don't have experience in big companies are selling you is that the leadership is the big variable and and then you know they all have a menu of tools so it's it's how you decided to use those tools your leadership that is the big you know the differentiator between who gets a good result who gets a bad result nothing like that's happening that is just an illusion they were all just following expert advice experts largely gave the same advice some countries faster some slower some had hydroxychloroquine supplies

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some had hydroxychloroquine supplies some didn't so some had options that others didn't but it's not leadership that you're seeing here that's that's not the main filter all right um
i'm not in favor of raising taxes just in general you know if there's any way you cannot raise taxes you should do it but let's say you wanted to mess with bernie sanders and let's say you wanted to um what's the word uh where you co-opt or you somehow take somebody else's policy there's a better word for that suppose president trump this is not going to happen this is purely a thought experiment so don't get hung up on that'll never happen because i'm telling you this will never happen but it's a good thought experiment it goes like this tax the um the monopoly digital companies you know your facebooks your googles you

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you know your facebooks your googles you can throw a few more names in there amazon maybe and you tax them specifically to pay for health care and free college for anybody who doesn't have it yet so i'm not talking about paying for health care for the whole country i'm talking about they would cover the gap for those people who can't get health care they would cover the gap for anybody who wanted to go to college but couldn't afford it that sort of thing and here's here's the beauty of the idea it would basically be a syntax because social media is sort of like liquor and cigarettes in the sense that it's not good for you you know it's not good for you but it's a free country so we're not going to get rid of it and because it's not healthy in a variety of different ways it does make sense that you tax the things that are least healthy and then you use that money we have a tradition for this cigarette taxes for example then you use that syn tax money to do something that's very healthy for the

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something that's very healthy for the public what would be healthier for the public than getting everybody good health care nothing what would be healthier for the public than making sure they could get good educations nothing i mean it's probably one of the best things you can do for your health is to have an education and therefore a good chance of for a good economic situation and there's a big difference you know the richer you are the better your health it's pretty direct so uh in a practical sense nothing like that would happen but here's the here's the uh the interesting part of the idea if the big digital companies realized that only they were being taxed for this very special kind of tax for health care and for uh for education now it doesn't have to be college education it could also be maybe school choice etc what would they do well the first thing they do is they'd say wait a minute i'm paying a billion dollars a year for these things

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dollars a year for these things or however many billions but if i can make the cost of providing health care go down so too would my taxes if i could make the cost of going to college just how it's done the whole process of education if i could alter that and make it less expensive i could lower my own taxes so you would create a situation where the company's most capable of solving health care most capable of solving education would have an enormous financial incentive to do it and suddenly you don't mind so much those big companies because i think you would agree with the following statement
if if if a big company is super important to the country itself you you're a little bit more forgiving if there are some rough edges to that company wouldn't you say just a general statement as long as you're providing some enormous benefit

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enormous benefit you can be a little more forgiving about any you know things that are imperfect about it so if those big companies which are suffering quite a reputation hit if they want to fix two of the biggest problems in the country and tie it to their own self-interest and it is pretty tied to their self-interest
that might be a healthy situation it might be a situation where the public says you know i was mad about amazon for whatever reason yesterday but now i see that they're helping give health care to poor people and educating people i'm like well well i like that part so there you go somebody says private would be better well you know who knows if the solution would look more private or public to be determined all right that's all i got for now and i will talk to you