Episode 1113 Scott Adams: The “Losers and Suckers” HOAX, How to Avoid a Civil War, Voting Twice
Date: 2020-09-04 | Duration: 1:05:10
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Idolizing criminals as a political strategy
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American tricked into writing Pro-Russian propaganda
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Mail-In voting dangers, considerations
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New alcohol consumption guidelines
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Obvious BS HOAX, by Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg
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Avoiding a post-election civil war
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hey everybody come on in it's a very newsy day there's news all over the place you got your real news you got your fake news all kinds of news you got your hoaxes and we have a brand new hoax the hoax of the day we don't have a name for it yet let's call it the losers and suckers hoax goes well with the fine people oaks the drinking bleak bleach oaks the overfeeding the goldfish hoax and all of the other hoaxes but first what do you need first to get ready for all this excitement i think you know you you need a copper mug or a glass of tank or gels or stein a canteen jerker flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous sip and it's happening right now go
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i feel the soul of michael forest reinold going to hell that's good coffee makes everything better all right good news on the economy or as people who don't like president trump call it very bad news that's right we can't even tell the difference between good news and bad news for example is it good news that the unemployment rate has improved all the way to 8.4 percent surpassing the estimates of experts you would think that would be good news wouldn't you but no according to washington post and new york times that good news is filled with bad news and if you add enough bad news together i guess it just looks like good news to people who don't know any better like me but there's some core uh long-term employment numbers within those numbers that don't look so good so i think it is true that there's some internals that are they're weak but if you're an optimist
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they're weak but if you're an optimist you look at the big numbers if you're a pessimist you dig in there and find something to complain about and they did amazingly one quarter of all the people who were employed in august in the united states worked from home worked from home one quarter of the united states worked from home what that's not going to change i mean the one corner part will change but if you thought we were going back to a commuting society i don't know i mean the the biggest reason to go back to that commuting way of life would be to get out of the house so i guess it'll be some of that here's my favorite my favorite peak 2020 story there was a professor of african history at george washington university it matters to the story that she was a professor of american
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that she was a professor of american history and she recently admitted that she'd been living her life a lie and that for all of her adult life she had claimed to be an african-american woman when in fact she had zero african and african american i guess you would just say african background she was literally just a white girl who had lived her life and looks exactly like a white girl and lived her life just telling people she was black and people and what's funny about this is that nobody wanted to challenge it because the people she was dealing with nobody wants to be in that fight right right if somebody says they're black it's not really up to somebody else to tell them they're not and and that's not really the conversation you want to get into you know you can't win so i think
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you know you can't win so i think i think but the fact that she took us so far that she became a professor of african american history and you have to ask yourself could could a real white person get hired to be a professor of african history i don't know what the hiring practices are but if i had to venture a guess i would say i would say you really couldn't get hired for that job as i understand the world and the way it works i don't think you get hired for that job unless they think you're african-american and i could just wonder what that job interview looked like it's like yeah yeah i'm african-american and i'd like to be a professor of african history and you can see the administrators whoever is doing the hiring saying
i really want to say something right now such as you're obviously not black
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such as you're obviously not black but i could be wrong about that and i'm not going to take a one percent chance of being wrong because you know it is true that people can look different from their ethnicity that's a real thing it's just it wasn't the thing in this case so everything about that story is hilarious in in the sense of really understanding where we're at and how humans are wired all right my favorite other story of the day
day i i'm typically not happy about somebody getting gunned down usually that's a bad thing but not in this case if the person is michael forrest rhino or
or now rhino as you know is a cousin of cornholio if you've ever watched beavis and but ahead do you know cornolio this guy's cousin and anyway he was the the guy who allegedly allegedly and
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the guy who allegedly allegedly and admittedly shot the trump supporter who i guess was a
pro-police person now think about this this this guy murdered somebody who was demonstrating in favor of police the police show up how happy are they go to shoot this guy now what was not reported in the story is how many bullet holes are in michael forest reinhold how many bullet holes do you think he has in him well we'll probably hear a lot about it because i assume there'll be a mass protest because isn't that what happens when someone gets shot by the police don't we have a massive protest to to you know demonstrate against the police brutality oh wait let me check his nope nope not for him turns out we don't have a
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not for him turns out we don't have a mass protest for a murderous white man now i would like to uh to see if i can crawl a little bit closer to getting cancelled it it my trick here is that if i only go a little bit each time they'll be hard to cancel me for a specific thing because it'll just be oh but not that one thing you said that just moved it one percent or we're really waiting for the the one we can nail you on but we know it's coming all right so here's me getting a little closer to cancellation if you knew there were two groups of people let's say in a country or anywhere else and the only difference let's say the only difference between the two groups is that one of them idolized its criminals and the other said it's it's a good day when their criminals get shot and killed which of those two groups will do better in society would it be
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would it be the group that keeps as heroes criminals or would it be the group that says thank you for shooting our criminals one of those two groups is going to be more successful
so keep that in mind um and i've said before that we should stop sorting the world into ethnicity and gender instead we should sort the world into strategy very much the way we're looking at the coronavirus response is anybody looking at the coronavirus response and say and saying how did the black people do no no that's quite appropriately that's not a question is anybody looking at the coronavirus responses across countries and saying how'd the asians not exactly because it's not really an appropriate question
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appropriate question what we are asking is how did this strategy work how did the swedish strategy work how did the u.s strategy work how did taiwan or new zealand's strategy work isn't that the right way to look at it to look at what people did and if you did these things did it work better than the people who did these things that is a productive way to work look at the world but when we're looking at our own citizens and who's succeeding and who isn't we don't do that we don't look at the ones who have good strategy and say all right let's just look at the ones with good strategy now if you took all the people with good strategy and the and within the group of good strategy the black people for example let's say they weren't doing as well well now you've got a real problem that that really has isolated racism i would say could be systemic racism could be ordinary racism against an
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could be ordinary racism against an individual but if they're using the same strategy and they're getting different outcomes that would be the most worrisome thing but if people are getting different outcomes with completely different strategies why are we even talking about their ethnicity how does that even come into the conversation what does their gender have to do with it if they're doing different things you got to do the same thing or else you can't be analyzed for whether racism is in that equation it's always in the equation but identifying it is hard unless you isolate the other variables so here's another funny thing we'll get to the the hoax of the day in a little bit
b machiavelli on uh and twitter uh had this funny tweet he said i'm voting twice once in the polls for biden and once in the booth for trump i think that's going
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the booth for trump i think that's going to describe a lot of people and he showed a picture of himself wearing a biden hat on the outside but under his jacket was a trump shirt and i thought to myself i think i'm going to get a biden hat because if you're going out in public a biden hat would work a little bit like a hard hat wouldn't it you wear a hard hat into a construction zone because you don't want heavy objects to hit you in the head if you go into a public place in 2020 you also don't want something to hit you in the head because it turns out that being in any kind of a crowded situation in 2020 it's probably a riot or you know or something that's going to become one and you are worried about getting hit in the head so you can't protect yourself completely but i would wear a biden biden baseball cap
cap it would greatly greatly reduce the odds of me getting hit in the head in public so it's like a hard hat um
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and uh somebody else said i think it was brian rosen said this frame biden in the streets and trump between the the sheets i i modified this statement there to add between biden in the streets and trump between this between the sheets
all right uh so that's funny uh another funny story is there was an american who was tricked into writing russian disinformation so it was that you were some guy who was at an and a work but he wanted to be a writer and he saw a publication called peace data you know the prestigious publication piece data you probably subscribe to it don't you i mean who hasn't read a copy of peace data that well-known publication and the the so-called editor who was not a real person he was actually a computer-generated photo which is scary because it looks
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photo which is scary because it looks exactly like a person
and that whoever was behind the fake identity contacted him and paid him a few hundred dollars per article to write articles that apparently they would they would select to be pro-russian propaganda now apparently the same russian troll farm that did the facebook ads is associated with this uh this disinformation and i think to myself the funniest thing about the russian troll farm is how bad they were and how completely ineffective they were yeah they existed yes there seems to be good evidence that they made memes that were interfering with the election but they were so bad the memes they look like i've said this many times it looked like a high school project and they didn't even put much money into them and they didn't even persuade in the same direction they were completely amateurish work
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they were completely amateurish work and now they've added to this hiring 26 year olds to write articles for a publication that nobody reads peace data and
i think to myself is this really the finest russian disinformation or is it disinformation to get caught doing something that's so amateurish that you that when you catch them you say well i guess we don't have to worry about russia i mean look how easy they were to catch look how weak their effort was but are they so clever that they actually have a super clever thing that's going on that they're diverting our attention and we never see it because they've acted so intentionally stupid on this other one well i don't know i don't know i'm not smart enough to know if this is a super clever diversion or if russia is just really really really bad at interfering with elections i don't want to brag
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want to brag but i could interfere with our election better all by myself i wouldn't even need a you know the kgb went up whoever there the
the intelligence agency of the uh of russia i wouldn't even need their help they could say we'll give you a few hundred dollars if you i'd say yeah keep it i i got this i could interfere with an election so much better than russia um even howard kurtz is calling president trump's piece or at least the whoever did the title to the piece called it a master stroke when he suggested voting twice now i feel as if i was one of the first people to be on to this method which is the president says and how many times if i said exactly this he'll say something that is a little bit wrong but it's the wrongness or a lot wrong it's the wrongness that makes you unable to look away
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makes you unable to look away if he said things that were ordinary you'd say okay fine and then you'd go on with your business but if he says something that you know to be wrong or dangerous or provocative or just just too far over the line you can't look away all of your attention will go to that thing even if you don't want it to even if you know it's a trick it's just good technique and so uh howard kurtz says call down in his article and i think he's completely right that when the president suggested that maybe you should do a mail-in vote and then go vote in person anyway and then cheekily he suggested that you couldn't do it anyway so even if you tried to break the law it wouldn't be possible because the people who oppose the president have told us it's not possible they would immediately flag it that's oh no you've already voted by mail you don't need to vote by by machine but your common sense and everything you
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but your common sense and everything you know about the government everything you know about human beings everything you know about complicated situations everything you know about bureaucracy everything you know about politics is screaming in your head this mail and vote thing is a problem and so the president makes you think about that problem and also gives you a specific challenge do you think you could vote twice and i'll tell you i don't think there's anybody on either side who doesn't think that you could vote twice is there is there even one person in the united states who is such a simpleton that they believe you couldn't vote twice you could vote twice don't do it it's a i think it's a federal offense right sounds like a bad deal but if you had let's say mailed your ballot not too long ago i'm not sure when the the mailing deadline is but if you'd mailed your ballot not too long ago
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long ago do you think that somebody at the voting booth or the voting area would have in their extensively accurate records that that your ballot got counted i don't think so so it's kind of brilliant the president has made people think about this and makes his point well taken i hope that it doesn't cause people to vote twice and go to jail or even just ruin the election you don't want that so that's why only only trump would even say something like that because it's so dangerous that you say to yourself ah but how many times has the president done something that was dangerous that worked out fine he kind of does it a lot i think i'll drone solomon a no you can't do that okay that worked i think i'll move the embassy to jerusalem you can't okay that worked i think i'll say the golan heights belongs to israel you can't
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belongs to israel you can't okay that seemed to work okay you can't start a trade war okay china seems to be getting flexible now i guess you can so every time he does something that's way too dangerous fairly consistently it seems to work out which means that he has a better sense of what is really dangerous and what is it so far all right but i and the people who are saying that there's no history of mail fraud in this country probably a right in terms of big enough fraud to sway an election but we know at the same time that there's definite fraud you know individual cases that that can be verified uh in the mail in the news recently there was somebody who admitted he he was part of organized efforts to to change male votes so we know that it happens on the small but the argument is that it's never happened enough in history where there was mail-in to make a difference
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make a difference to which i say uh that doesn't make sense that's not an argument it's not an argument that it hasn't been a problem in the past because 2020 is not like the past it's not like it in terms of what kind of mail-in votes it will be it's different if you request a ballot you're probably a real person if they just send you ballots well you're going to get somebody else's ballot in the mail and you may or may not fill it out so there are lots of weaknesses that in 2020 that just wouldn't have existed before what about the states several states who have had a mailing mail mail in voting for a while did they get it right on the first try probably not probably took a little bit of scrubbing the database probably had to set up some systems to double check stuff if you did all that you might be in good shape but we haven't done all that and we don't have any baseline for which to
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don't have any baseline for which to compare our results this year the one thing that's the biggest change this year is that no matter what the results are mail and vote or even regular vote you're not going to know if that's what it should have been imagine if you were if you will that you're some state and it's not 2020 it's sometime in the not too distant past you were thinking about going to mail-in votes you could look at all your prior elections where people mailed it voted in person you could say okay if our mail in votes come in really close to what we voted in in person then we'll say all right that looks like the mail-ins and the in-person were kind of close but if it's 2020 and it's a coronavirus year you don't know what's going to happen and how that will compare to any prior year so this is the most dangerous situation because the mail invoke could say almost
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because the mail invoke could say almost anything and you would have a poll that supports it because the polls in many cases are false so there will always be at least one poll that supports no matter what the outcome is
is there will be at least one poll that says yeah look we predicted it it's not that uncommon for only one or two polls to be close this is just like that yeah it's abide in by 10. look at my poll i've got a poll that said he was going to win this state by 10. there you go the other polls didn't say that but that's not unusual it's not unusual that only a few polls are really good and other ones are not so there's no baseline how would you know this is false anyway so that's happening i would like to before we talk about the new hoax i would like to remind you and there will probably only be a few people on this periscope who ever heard me say this because it was so long ago can you in
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because it was so long ago can you in the comments confirm that maybe 10 or 15 years ago i first started saying the following you know all those scientific studies that show that moderate drinking is good for your health i alone on planet earth said yeah there are a lot of those studies they keep they keep producing a new one and each time each time it seems to show that moderate drinking is actually good for you and what did i say fake every one of the studies fake i said that 10 to 15 years ago somebody else said that too oh good we've got some confirmation so there there are people on on the uh you know the comments who are saying that they confirmed that i've been saying for years that those studies would be debunked and today the wall street journal
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and today the wall street journal in an article saying that men should not have more than one drink per day that's a new lower standard the article just brushes aside those prior studies and says that more recent studies have debunked them and it was a selection bias problem that's right it was a selection bias they were picking people who probably had a mediterranean diet is what the wall street journal speculated so the people who knew that who knew it from the first moment that it was fake news those are the people you should listen to in the future now if i'd only ever gotten one prediction right well that doesn't mean much but look at the body of my predictions but especially look at the ones where i've debunked a news story no matter how much evidence there was for that news story that i debunked it publicly and was right so you know you were still looking at
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so you know you were still looking at the cuban uh sonic weapon or the cuban embassy sonic weapon i said from moment one there's no sonic weapon none has been found it's been a long time i think we would have found the sonic weapon by now when the uh the shooting happened in las vegas ice and even people were saying it's isis i said on day one this is not isis isis claimed credit for it i still said in public even though isis has a long history of not claiming credit for things unless it was pretty real might have been wanting one exception i still said even though they've claimed credit it's not isis and it wasn't so look at my record and now let's talk about this newest hoax so the newest hoax comes from the atlantic uh jeffrey goldberg i guess wrote it and the the claim is that there are four anonymous sources
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anonymous sources who said that trump didn't want to go to the
the event in france to honor the service people for world war ii i guess or was it one but anyway he canceled a visit and they're saying it's because he didn't want to get his hair messed up so that's the first part and then the second part allegedly
i can't believe they would even write this all right they claimed that trump labeled as losers marines who died in the battle of belleau wood during world war one referring to the war
war trump allegedly asked who were the good guys in this war and that and he called them losers and suckers if they were if they died in the war now
if you can't tell that that's not true if you can't tell that's not true just by listening to it then i've taught you nothing but i will
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then i've taught you nothing but i will i will uh reiterate the lesson here here are all the signs that this is an obvious hoax and there were so many of them i ran out of i literally ran out of room writing down all the obvious flags for this big hoax number one the timing the timing you know close to an election definitely ramps up the chance that somebody would make something up especially if biden looks like he's in a little bit of trouble if biden work had a commanding lead you wouldn't see as much fake news because they wouldn't need it so in this situation do they need fake news to beat trump and i would say yes because the real news isn't going to be negative enough they needed fake news and they needed it now now that alone doesn't make it fake news right that should just that should just make your antenna start vibrating it's like all right that's not enough to tell me if it's real or not real but i'm on the lookout all right so
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but i'm on the lookout all right so that's your first flag
number two we know that the democrats have admitted that they're going to be using artificial intelligence to figure out how to manipulate and brainwash the masses they don't use those words but as clearly as i'm expressing it they have expressed it they just use different words now what would it look like if an ai came up with a line of attack what would it look like have you seen the articles about ai trying to write a blog post and it actually fooled people and you can look at it and you can see that when an artificial intelligence tries to write an article pretending to be a human it does have some tells in it and the first tell is that it seems to be based on frequency of keywords in other words if it picks up a tendency it doesn't have any intelligence really
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it doesn't have any intelligence really on that but it just it picks up the tendency so okay people are talking about this this word gets used a lot i'll throw that into the sentence i'll make grammar that makes sense and boom it looks like a person said it so here's here's the tell that this wasn't human generated or if it was human generated somebody who's not good at it and what i mean is not good at writing okay so in order to create a good hoax the best kind of hoax is one uh i'll wind back to my point we'll get to a point here a good hoax is one that only the person who is the subject of the hoax believes that that's your best hoax because if it's something that everybody believed that's pretty rare first of all but you want something that only the the subject believes i'll give you an example uh let's say i was such a narcissist
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uh let's say i was such a narcissist that i believe that even at my current age and with my current unpleasant uh look that i could be a model because i believe and i'm the only one who believes this that i'm really just so sexy that yeah i'm an older guy and yeah i don't have anything that a model would typically have i got glasses and bald you know blah blah but a perfect hoax for me if i were believing that i was model beautiful and nobody else did what would be to call me under a fake name and say hey you know you don't know me but i'm a model uh agent i'd like to hire you to be a famous model now the reason that's a good hoax is i'm the only person who would fall for that in this scenario everybody else who was watching the hoax would know in a heartbeat it's not true because just look at me so i'm the only person who would have the blind spot that's that's that's a good hoax and here's how that blind spot fits
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and here's how that blind spot fits with the ai and with the bad writer concept the the initial you want to build a hoax around a kernel of truth and here's here are the kernels of truth number one can you believe that the president would say something unpleasant about somebody yes as a general statement the president could insult people would you believe that he might say something crueler behind closed doors than he might say in public yes completely believable that anybody really would be a little more unguarded not in public but here's the here's the part remember where uh trump said something about mccain being captured and prisoner of war i forget the exact words but trump quipped and probably wishes he hadn't that he prefers people who didn't get caught now here's the trick if you have a sense of humor you know that that was nothing but a
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you know that that was nothing but a joke and it was a joke about mccain it wasn't a joke about people in the service it wasn't a joke about prisoners of war but it so easily became that when the public got a hold of it then it was probably a mistake he shouldn't have done that joke the first thing you need to know is that one-third of the public doesn't understand a joke doesn't even recognize it and you saw that in that story a lot of the coverage failed to understand that it was a joke somebody says it was a dave chappelle joke no it was a chris rocket joke trump actually used the same joke and i don't know if he saw it from chris rock i think chris rock did it first about mccain and he said you know he's a hero but some version of you know i prefer people who don't get caught now the reason it's funny is because it's terrible it's the terribleness of it that makes it funny because when you're thinking and you're your head is in the uh
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your head is in the uh american prisoner of war military hero model so your brain is thinking you know the the greatest amount of respect and then you hear somebody make this clever witticism that takes this greatest amount of respect you could ever have and reduces it down to that i like people who didn't get caught it just turns them into somebody who was bumbling is hilarious and it's hilarious because it's so inappropriate if you take out the fact that it's inappropriate it's not a joke it's only a joke because it's inappropriate and and overtly inappropriate in a way that's intended and designed to make you laugh now if you didn't know that trump was doing the same joke literally the same joke not almost the same joke the same joke as chris rock and he delivers with a you know straight face most of the time he doesn't laugh at his own jokes so the news was like we're not sure so it allowed a third of
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we're not sure so it allowed a third of the people to believe that he really said that and really meant it and he had some animus against even a prisoner of war that he would speak uh disrespectfully for now if you believed that that was true and you didn't understand that it was always a joke and it was always just about mccain it was never about service people uh if you didn't know his joke how easy would it be for you to believe that he said a similarly disrespectful thing in another circumstance it's really easy so if you are going to design let's say you were an ai and you were going to design a hoax you would start with one that's got a little bit of confirmation bias already built in the part where people are already primed to think that trump would say something like that behind closed doors so that's perfect but here's the tell that it was an ai or a human who's really bad at writing
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or a human who's really bad at writing a good human writer would have known it was a joke and would have made the new thing also a joke that's the part that's missing if if this story this obvious hoax that was written in the atlantic if this obvious hoax had gone the extra mile and turned this new allegation this obviously didn't happen but if they'd put it in the form of a joke they could have sold it because that's how you know it wasn't trump trump leaves a signature with these things the joke we just talked about trump saying you should vote twice that has trump's signature on it you could take that story and remove it from trump and say who said this and most of the world would say okay that's funny because it's so inappropriate why is it funny to say you should vote twice because it's so inappropriate that's
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because it's so inappropriate that's what's funny is it funny to say that you know trump likes people who didn't get caught very inappropriate that's why it's funny the trump sense of humor has a fingerprint to it that's sort of unmistakable if you're a good writer if you're an ai you don't see it because you just see the keywords if you're a bad writer or you didn't know he meant it as a joke the first time you saw it you would not make your hoax include a joke either because you would think well it's more true to the original if i just play it straight but trump doesn't that's your that's your biggest tell so trump would never just say a thing that would get him obviously if he had ever said that out loud he would know that it would get back to people he would know it would be the end of his presidency if people believed it so uh the the odds of him having said that are zero essentially all right here's
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zero essentially all right here's another here's some more tells number one not number one uh cnn is downplaying it okay i looked on cnn's page because i thought okay is this going to be like the major story because it's just like read me it's like oh we got another another thing nope cnn put it on the far right in one no picture just text and just treated it like an allegation cnn did not pounce do you know why do you know why cnn did not pounce by the way msnbc did bounce do you know why cnn didn't pounce isn't it exactly isn't it exactly the right kind of story for cnn to pout on can you think of anything that would be more red meat for cnn than this story and they didn't pounce on it they're playing it a little bit soft
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it they're playing it a little bit soft now that may have changed even since i saw it this morning but the initial reaction was to downplay it
it what does that tell you it tells you they know it's not true and they can't take another hit cnn is obviously wounded by all the fake news it has promoted and it just can't take another hit and this one is so
so obviously not true that even cnn couldn't take a chance on it that's another flag all right the other flag is it's in the atlantic the atlantic is not anything close to a credible news organization they would be closer to russia today closer to i don't know less credible than the national enquirer now i don't know what they used to be but in 2020 the atlantic is a gigantic you know flashing sign that says whatever you read in here is not true it's probably the most fake news publication in america
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fake news publication in america coincidence is it a coincidence that this did not appear in say the new york times you know it wasn't their scoop it wasn't the scoop of let's say even the washington post as disreputable as they are it had to be in the atlantic because who else is going to publish four anonymous sources you know a basic journalist's standard is if you can't get at least one person to go on the record maybe you don't publish that so anonymous sources is your you know of course a big red flag the atlantic big red flag the author jeffrey goldberg big red flag the fact that it was written like an ai or a bad writer instead of having that signature humor that trump has big red flag the timing of it big red flag the fact that biden needs a hail mary pass to win big red flag i mean this is just flags all the way but here
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this is just flags all the way but here here's the most obvious one it's a little too on the nose it's a little too perfect have i told you that if you hear let's say there are two news stories one news story is a shark attacks a surfer now if you heard that story you'd say well it doesn't happen a lot but that's a thing you know that could happen but let's say you heard this story a man attacks a shark with just his bare teeth and he kills a shark by biting it to death if you heard that story would you need research to know it's fake you shouldn't immediately upon hearing it you should say ah that just by its nature i know didn't happen and the the trump story about the the losers and the suckers that has that written all over it it has the exact look of yeah no man bit a shark no seriously seriously a man bit a shark and he killed the shark
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killed the shark with his uh jaws he just he just ironically with his jaws he he bit the shark to death yeah that happened that totally happened you shouldn't need to do research to know that that didn't happen so this is in that class all right uh
and all right i got a few more uh oh here's another one one of the sources is malcolm nance now if you've never heard that name before the only thing you need to know is if if you were looking for a big red flag that a story is not true associating it with malcolm nance would be the biggest of the big flags there's no there's no name i don't think i don't think there's another name in america that would be less credible than malcolm nance you can do your own googling to find out why i'm saying that but just that the fact that that's a source if you knew nothing else and you knew he
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if you knew nothing else and you knew he was the source you should immediately discount this as ridiculous
how about the fact that even john bolton debunked it in his book so part of the claim about why trump didn't go to the ceremony the you know the new claim is he didn't want to get his hair disheveled in the in the wind which is ridiculous because trump does lots of outdoor uh events all the time um but uh the fact that bolton tells a completely different version of that story and bolton hates the president bolton doesn't like the president and he even he told a completely different version so if you know that part of the story almost certainly has to be false because even bolton told a different version then the rest of it's false like if a big part of it can be confirmed to not be true and i think the john bolton thing is about as close as you can get to a confirmation then you know no credibility for the rest um how about uh
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um how about uh does it work let's talk about whether the hoax will work here's the bad news yes yes that that hoax could actually cost trump the election it's actually that powerful it's as powerful as the fine people hoax and it will work the same way which is that people who want to believe it's true are just going to believe it's true and there's nothing you can do to talk them out of it now can you prove can you prove something didn't happen no that's the beauty of this you can't prove something didn't happen you can't prove a negative you can sometimes prove things did happen but it's not a thing to prove something didn't happen all you can know is that you don't have evidence that's all you can know you can't prove it didn't happen generally speaking so it's sort of perfect that way um i would expect that some number of people will believe this and it will change their votes it could easily be powerful enough as a
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it could easily be powerful enough as a hoax to change the the nature of the election now what do you do about it if you get wounded by a hoax and you have the entire media complexes not going to debunk it what do you do unfortunately you just you just deal with it it's a wound and it's a real one and it's not going to go away now the only way that this could go away is if something remarkable happened such as let's say all four people who are the sources came forward and said no no we just made it up now that's not going to happen but you can imagine some amazing scenario in which maybe it all blows up but assuming that it doesn't because the the fine people hoax is still alive and well even though it's the most widely debunked hoax in american history nothing is more debunked or more easily debunked because you could just show the actual transcript or show the video and still it completely works
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and still it completely works the reason the fine people hoax is so pervasive is that it works people do believe it despite how easily it's debunked this one is just like that it's really deadly and it happens to graft a little too well to the president's biggest unexploited weakness if you found out that suddenly before the election there was an artificial intelligence involved in a campaign and suddenly also at about that same time you found that out you found that they had opened a new line of attack that was innovative i would say this is an
an innovative attack wouldn't you to go after the president's strength because his strength is the military in law law enforcement that's his strength america patriotism service so going after his strength is a non-obvious move does a human come up with that
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does a human come up with that i don't know it has it has a whiff of artificial intelligence because artificial intelligence could pick a target that a human just wouldn't have seen it would seem invisible to you to go after his strength but you're only looking to chop two percent off remember you're not trying to change everybody's mind and so a good hoax that goes against his strength is a really solid play it's you know it's just it's a despicable it's unethical it's immoral it's all those things but it's really effective so the fact that they went after his strength kind of tells me that that there's a little extra going on here maybe they've identified that it's the lowest information voter now i don't want to say something that's insulting to our heroes in the service but would you say
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heroes in the service but would you say that it might be true that they may be less less into politics in other words the younger you are probably the less you're following things if you're in the military you got better things to do you're probably just following the surface stuff you're not really digging into the details so by identifying a group that is somewhat isolated from the news if you can penetrate their isolation and get that rumor in there nothing can get it out so the ai may have done two things it may have found a uh an attack place sort of like the death star you know you know if you've all watched uh star wars you know that there's just one weakness in the in the death star it could be that the ai found that one weakness figured out how to exploit it with a with a targeted hoax but also may have found out that once you get the hoax in there there's something about that population that makes it harder to get rid of the
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that makes it harder to get rid of the hoax could be it's also possible that because there's so much emotional content evolved with our service people especially families that it's it's just something that people can't think rationally about it just has too much too much emotional content all right so what would you do if you were the trump campaign and you were the recipients of this hoax and it worked you would of course do all your denials and the president's doing that but because people don't believe the president especially if they're anti-trump it doesn't really help the denials are not going to make much difference at all and even the other people saying i was with him every minute it never happened well nobody's with everybody anybody every minute so you could easily say well we don't know so here's the only thing you could do you have to come up with your own hoax that's just as bad the only defense to
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that's just as bad the only defense to this is offense if trump plays defense he loses trump on defense is not a good trump trump on offense oh that's a good trump so trump has to figure out how to go on offense and even if he were succeeding in just changing the focus of the news cycle which we assume he will do it's probably going to be an interesting day i'm sure president trump will change the news cycle that alone isn't enough because once that stain gets in there it's just not coming out i mean he that that hoax may have taken two percent right off of his off of his pole polling numbers um so i'm not going to recommend this i'm just telling you uh the only the only response that could work is an equally bad hoax about biden that sticks now you would have to design your hoax as good as this one this is a really well designed hoax because as ridiculous as it is and as obviously
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as ridiculous as it is and as obviously fake as it is it's only obviously fake to the people who are smart enough to know that and they're not the ones they're trying to influence we are completely irrelevant all of us who know that it's a fake news story we're not relevant because nobody listens to us you know we're that we're like the boy who cried wolf or something we can scream all day nobody's gonna listen so if trump could do the same thing it would be devastating now if you were to design a hoax for biden you would do the same process you would find something that had not yet been exploited so it's fresh you know something is new something that has a great emotional content and if you heard it you could never be objective about him again so uh and i think that's been tried before so accusations about uh let's say an accusation about biden and an underage female now this didn't happen as far as i know
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now this didn't happen as far as i know i'm not trying to start a rumor i'm giving you an example if you if you believe that biden is a little touchy and even his own supporters would admit that if you agree that he's he sniffs a little bit too much hair and i think even his supporters would say yeah there's a little hair sniffing we're not comfortable with so you start with something that people are biased to believe and then you add the thing that is purely ridiculous so a purely ridiculous thing might be for example that there was some underage girl that he did some bad thing with now it's one thing to hear that maybe something happened with a staffer the tara reed thing but still those are adults and as bad as that is and the me too way if you believe that it's true it's still adults and that doesn't hit you the way anything would if a child was involved so that would be the response but that would be unethical and immoral
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but that would be unethical and immoral but it would totally work just as the the losers and suckers hoax will work
here's a question for you how are we going to avoid a civil war what would it take to not have violence after the election here are some things we can be sure of we can be sure that no matter what the result um people won't be happy if let's say if trump loses narrowly or just loses at all would trump supporters likely start a revolution let's say they didn't even believe the vote they thought the vote was a little rigged would trump supporters go to the streets and cause a revolution like a civil war and the answer is no no i don't think they would because they might take as the supreme
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because they might take as the supreme court they might want the legal system to be involved they might scream like crazy but they're not they're not going to become the anti-far they're not going to they're not going to you know try to overthrow the country but what if it goes the other way yeah if it goes the other way will the biden people if they lose narrowly or not narrowly will they just go quietly no no no of course not so the way it's shaping up is a trump win
win followed by a civil war and that could last months or whatever now i don't know how much violence that means it could mean just civil unrest and more businesses getting burned which would be plenty bad but certainly we have a real dangerous situation what would it take to fix that there's a you know we can actually see the the fuse burning it's like you can see the pile of
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it's like you can see the pile of dynamite and it's you know november 4th let's say day after the election and then you can see the fuse which goes all the way to today and you can see the fuse is lit we're watching it in real time the fuse is actually lit what's going to stop it from turning into a civil war and so i will take that as my my task [Applause] the only thing that would change it is a feat of persuasion that you know uh deactivated the bomb prior to the civil war could there be such a strong bit of persuasion that you could actually you know completely snuff out a civil war because that would be some pretty big persuasion and so i don't know but
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i don't know but we'll see we'll give it a try so i'm going to make that my to-do my personal task to save the country not not single-handedly of course but rather to think a little bit more productively about what it would take to change the mindset in america too productive what would it take now so somebody says kanye yeah kanye's uh kanye maybe he would be important for healing the country but i think that it's going to require something more than that something that we haven't seen something we haven't thought of yet and i will take that as my uh oh there is a story about biden groping a secret service agent's girlfriend but again that's a story about adults and as bad as it might be if it were true don't know if it is as bad as that would be still isn't as bad
bad as this losers and suckers hoax against
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as this losers and suckers hoax against trump because that one really gets that gets to your core whereas accusations about adults no matter how bad you just say that's a bad world we wish it didn't happen uh you just have a different feeling about it
all right um switch off the internet i believe that there is uh a way to go here the the ideal way to go would be for um the black voters to realize that they've been had the antifa is not on their side and i don't think that's far away if you could convince black voters and when i say convince i don't mean lie to them i mean it's it's fairly obvious so what i'm talking about is actually observably true that antifa is not on the side of black americans black americans for the most part would
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black americans for the most part would like prosperity and jobs and education safety you know the ability to be not be afraid of police they'd like a lot of stuff that republicans want to give them republicans want to give them the things they want antifa wants to take it all away wants to take it away from rich white people wants to take away from poor black people wants to take everything away and if you can make the case that antifa is the enemy of black america and that the the black lives matter movement is just a corrupt thing that's working against the interest of black voters that could be something and if you look at the support numbers from african americans for president trump you can see that a lot of black voters have let's say emerged from the fog
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have let's say emerged from the fog of fake news and said to themselves some version of wait a minute why would i believe these guys let me just put it in the form of a question just just imagine you're you're a black american voter you've been involved with the protest and you suddenly have this thought about antifa why would i believe those guys what is it about those guys that would make me believe that they have my best interest nothing absolutely nothing in fact literally everything about antifa says that they're gonna get they're gonna screw you next because that's their whole deal their deal is not to create a you know society where everybody's doing well they're literally looking to rip everything apart and that means your stuff too so black americans you you would lose your stuff and you would lose it fast under your your own partner's
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under your your own partner's anti-fuzz uh preference all right
um i'm looking at your comments and blm the same as marxist yeah and let me work on fixing this whole protest thing and i'll get back to you with some some ideas on that what if he croaks after winning somebody saying goodbye well he will die after winning we just don't know how long it'll take um
stop the money yeah you know if you've been watching the internet you know that there's some thought that the the guy who killed the uh killed the guy in portland that there were things look a little more organized than you would expect meaning that there may be there's some foreign or domestic military style organization involved
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military style organization involved with the anti-antifa stuff i'm not sure i'm buying that completely but there's enough evidence and there are enough indications that i'd say it's a 65 chance that the antifa blm stuff is not american organic so i don't think it's an organic movement we just don't know who's pulling the strings the president mentioned shadowy groups and then the press tried to make him look like a kook for saying that but the truth is i don't think anybody knows it's just obvious that there's some kind of organization behind the scenes and i don't think it's a coincidence that we don't see the leaders the fact that we don't see the leaders of these groups and that they don't have a leadership structure suggests that the real leaders are hidden and why would the real leaders be hidden well the obvious explanation is they're not
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the obvious explanation is they're not on our side if you know what i mean all right
um high odds he gets covered soon somebody's talking about well the slaughter meter uh because of this latest hoax which is a good one i'd say that sets the slaughter meter back to uh
i'd say 50 so uh and of course this won't last you know there will be 50 more outrages between now and election day but the slaughter meter only is a snapshot in time that if things went the way they're going now in other words if people believe this losers and suckers hoax that would take uh probably trump's chances down by 50 it's that strong it's as strong as the fine people hoax and the fine people hoax is the only reason trump doesn't have a you know a massive lead in just the polls it's the only reason because as i've told you before there
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because as i've told you before there are lots of complaints about trump but if you took away the fine people hoax all of the other ones are only sort of speculative it's like well i i think he was thinking this when he said that or i think he had a bad feeling when he suggested this the fine people hoax is the only one where people say i saw it with my own eyes i heard it with my own ears even though they didn't they were hoaxed by a by a fake edit
um somebody says now finally we're talking treason and the death penalty yeah there is something going on that looks like professionals at work trying to overthrow the country we just don't know exactly who's behind all that i don't even know if they're americans
uh trump offers vp to biden what that's the worst idea i've heard today what will the october surprise be you know it's almost like we're running out of surprises aren't we
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of surprises aren't we uh oh yeah then biden shook hands when he got off the plane against all against all recommendations all right that's all i got for you today i will talk to you tomorrow