Episode 1106 Scott Adams: George Papadopoulos, His Book Deep State Target, RNC Review

Date: 2020-08-28 | Duration: 1:09:51

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  • Special Guest: George Papadopoulos

  • Link to George’s new book, Deep State Target… https://tinyurl.com/yyzkmkvx

  • RNC versus DNC production competence

  • CNN anger over RNC small stuff

  • Shocking number of people believe “Fine People” HOAX

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hey everybody come on in it's time for one of the most special coffees with scott adams all week it's gonna be a good one a barn burner as they say better than just about anything oh yeah
there's your three taps that tells you we're serious well i'm gonna have a uh guest on here in a little bit if our technology works we'll be talking to george papadopoulos about his book deep state target now our technology is always a little sketchy so let's uh let's hope we can get him on here today but
but before we do that is there something we need to do yes there is it's called the simultaneous sip and it doesn't take much to participate no it doesn't take much all you need is a couple of more glass attacker challenges to stein the canteen checker flask vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopamine of the day the

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pleasure of the dopamine of the day the thing that makes everything better except the democrats national convention which you know you know what i mean coffee can't do everything but join me now for the simultaneous step it happens now go
ah i feel the economy improving as i digest that um now i've got a few people who have asked to join as guests let's just hope one of them is george and yes it is all right we're going to try to add george papadopoulos and come on technology george are you there
lined up you were you you are audio only so they can only hear you but they can see me okay oh god i got it perfect perfect you know i accidentally set up a paris white live feed and i was sitting on a couch staring into the

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sitting on a couch staring into the abyss so all right well we got we got it now um so it sounds like you might be you might be a little far away from uh your microphone how about you be a little closer can you hear me oh that's way better way better all right now george uh i think most of my audience will recognize your name immediately and i'll say what the the book uh text says when i look for your book deep state at target how i got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to bring down president trump um and your advisor to president trump's presidential campaign and the first campaign and you got pulled into something and you wrote a book about it and by the way i just looked at the reviews of your book oh my god you have good reviews i don't know i don't know if i've seen too many books i have 86 5 star reviews that's crazy i mean i've

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5 star reviews that's crazy i mean i've written a few books and that's that's crazy so congratulations on that thank you thank you uh so george our big problem is that we've got people who probably know the details and some don't can you give us the
the the briefest outline of what happened to you
you and therefore kicked off the book absolutely and thanks a lot for having me scott it's been a pleasure so basically i had worked in dc for five years uh leading up to joining both ben carson's presidential campaign and then donald trump's present campaign a lot of people forget that i actually joined uh ben carson's campaign first and at that time uh clearly the deck was stacked against all the republican camps even when i was on ben carson's campaign there were clear animus by the obama administration state department officials you name it they were all either looking to what these candidates were up to who their teams were or find ways to basically infiltrate their campaigns and we saw that

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their campaigns and we saw that happen uh with donald trump's campaign more vivid than any other campaign and as soon as i joined uh donald trump's campaign that's exactly when it seems the world's intelligence community collapsed on my lap while i was living in europe for the first month i was on the campaign and they were targeting myself general flynn carter page others and it just really asserted efforts by not only the obama administration but i also argue in my book of foreign governments who had vested interests in a clinton presidency that wanted to the trump campaign and to assure that if he did end up getting elected that he would be handcuffed and that's exactly what we've lived through as a country the last two years now to tell us without without all the details because it's kind of hard to compress it all what was the first sketchy contact with another person that you had which was clearly some kind of an intelligence or uh or something that was just

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uh or something that was just sketchy who was the first person who contacted you before the post even knew that i had publicly joined the trump campaign a very shady operative who is now at the center of probably three different investigations
made contact with me in in italy so this happened in early march and then if uh who's ever read my book or who knows the story somewhat we'll see that individual who then introduces me to the fake niece of vladimir putin uh he begins to try and uh infiltrate the campaign through me he eventually tells me that hillary's emails and now he's gone underground for the last couple of years and he's at the center of the durham investigation now what is his nationality this is maltese individual i believe he's a dual italian maltese native who had very few if any ties to russia overwhelmingly tied to the u.s

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overwhelmingly tied to the u.s government to the british government and other nato governments in um now early on the first time he contacted you
you did you not sort of google him and say there's there might be something a little fishy going on here at what point did you realize there was something not right about him well actually the way that i was reeled in was exactly because he wasn't uh overtly fishy initially when you google this guy initially you'll see that he was a professor he was connected to the state department to the to various governments in europe and he had really no connections whatsoever to any hostile power so when i first met him that's how i actually was reeled in to meet him and shortly thereafter that's when uh his motives seem to be a far more sketchy so would you say that it is a fact that the obama administration quote spied on the campaign or would you say that that requires some

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or would you say that that requires some nuance we we have to remember that there's an active criminal investigation looking into the so-called spying the durham probe evolved into a criminal matter once information about this individual joseph mifsud was relayed to bar's office by the italian government now we also have evidence that various spies were sent to meet with general myself others on the campaign and stefan halper who is one of these spies actually tried to ingratiate himself within the transition team so clearly there was fine going on against the campaign the question now is not if there was fine but was it illegal and we've already seen a guilty plea on the other side and is there anything that you know that were connected to obama or biden personally or or do you just know in terms of that connection what you've seen in the news like the rest of us what i what i know is that the type of

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what i what i know is that the type of foreign governments and foreign officials that were involved in my story from governments like italy these governments are not acting alone and they're not working to set up americans abroad working for presidential campaigns it just doesn't happen clearly directed to do it by the us government the question is how high up did it go we know with the recent unmasking of general flynn that vice president joe biden was directly involved in the unmasking of him which which was an illegal act was biden and obama involved in unmasking other people possibly trump himself that's something that attorney general bahrain will and john durham still have not exposed that's something that i think we will be seeing moving forward if you had to guess how this is going to end up when durham is done what do you think is the outcome that we should expect let's say let me let me ask you differently if durham really got the goods so that there was no doubt about what happened what would be the outcome the outcome

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what would be the outcome the outcome and i've said this for a long time now is that i think durham is looking into a conspiracy case a potential ricoh case that involves a conspiracy to not only fabricate evidence and scenarios around trump campaign associates but to then utilize that fake evidence to
to finally spy on the campaign we now know that the fbi lied to the fisa court in order to obtain those warrants against carter page and others and moving forward we're also going to if
if uh treason was committed as the president himself calls it because subverting democracy and interfering in the democratic process in this country is treason and if anyone was at the highest level in it they will be held accountable and that's something i predict now how do how do you how do you rule out the other hypothesis which is that the uh the folks who did all this had a genuine concern about russia and they couldn't really know if there was anything there until they dug into it

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anything there until they dug into it so that that would be their claim how do you know their intentions versus what they did because what they did could be spun either way wouldn't you say this that's a good that's a great question and and i and i would agree you if there were true suspicious links between the campaign and a foreign hostile power but in the case especially in my case and which at the center of the durham probe they're looking to see if this was fabricated if the entire story known as russiagate was a fake manifestation that you would find a hollywood screenwriter coming up with and that's why this joseph mifsud who was at the center of the of the mueller report the horowitz report uh where they were calling him and dangling the russian emails to me as i mentioned earlier if he was really working with the cia and other friendly governments now if that is a support yeah now but suppose i'm just speculating here imagining what

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i'm just speculating here imagining what the defense or the explanation would be on the other side suppose they said we had real concerns about trump and russia because we we heard he had investments and therefore if there's a money link that's a real concern but we didn't know how to get at that so we went through a side door by sort of creating a situation but really it was to find out if there really was something because we suspect it was we just couldn't get at it directly now i don't know if that would be legal or illegal but suppose they said that how could you disprove that intention because that's sort of a mental state well we've seen actual consequences of their attempt to circumvent the law and to do what i believe is a legal action where you had this fbi lawyer kevin kline essentially right that's carter page is not a cia asset he's working with the russians so let's spy on him and by extension target the rest of the campaign we saw will it

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will it yeah but let's accept that let's say they they confess yeah we we fudged some things we we lied on the investigative stuff but our intention was just to get us something that we thought was real yeah we broke some rules we custom corners but our intention was to find something real we just went through this weird side door that we really shouldn't have what if they say that well the the beauty of our country is that we have a constitution and the rule of law and you require you also require a an adequate predicate to launch either a counter intelligence or criminal investigation into an american citizen that citizens are protected by the constitution and the bill of rights and this is something so but george but but george that so that part we could prove we could we could prove that they did or did not break those laws and i think it'll be easy to prove that they did break those laws and that that can't be overlooked but how do you

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that can't be overlooked but how do you improve the their intention because that it all really it all boils down to what they were thinking when they did it right well it does and that's why uh we're now only recently unearthing declassified doc
doc people like senator lindsey graham who have showcased that people like bill priesthip this high-level fbi attorney lied under oath where he said idea about the sub-source of steel and that we verified everything and uh this information that we had no idea even existed that even the senate didn't know existed is only now worth and it's essentially exposing their corruption and possible illegal action and that's exactly why richard grinnell did such a duty to the american public by so much of this and what uh the director of national intelligence currently uh radcliffe is doing as well so so so the the logic then is that with so much cover up the fact that we know we know there was cover-ups we know

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we know there was cover-ups we know there was bad behavior to to get this going that there's so much of it and so many people were involved that it's just hard to write it off as people with good intentions is that is that basically there's just too much too much evidence to assume that they're all working with good intentions it would be sort of unlikely is that is that where we're at and that's exactly what i what i think and i think you're absolutely correct here i i think they try
try to pass uh accountability and any wrongdoing simply to kevin klein's memphis fbi attorney but shortly after his guilty plea like i mentioned lindsey graham went public and stated that he's bringing in other fbi officials now that they've learned new information that they did not know that clearly demonstrates that they lied under oath and that this could not simply have been a coincidence looks like a concerted effort to undermine a rival presidential campaign and that's what is at the heart of this new investigation all right and what uh in your book that

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all right and what uh in your book that i said has amazing reviews i mean i'm really impressed if you look at you know i i read a number of the five star reviews and they're quite blown away by your book so congratulations on that so it's called deep state target and if you want to link to it i tweeted it out so look at the top of my twitter feed today if you want to get a copy of that what would be in your book that you think would be one thing that the general public unless they were really really looking into it but just the general public who's following the story what is it that they don't know that is there is there a fact that you know that may or may not be in the book that that would just blow people's mind they just sort of don't know it argue and i and i think i lay it out very strategically from a to z in my book that the old narrative was that the trump campaign was colluding to win argue and i lay out with facts and i think daily and monthly those facts are now being corroborated by new declassified information

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by new declassified information is that not only did the trump campaign not collude with any foreign governments or with the u.s government for that matter but the obama administration colluded not only with the clinton campaign but with foreign governments to the trump campaign and that's exactly why it's so difficult for people to understand what happened because i'm showcasing a different which is based in reality and which is being based on facts being declassified yet for three years the mainstream media kept people uh essentially uh and uh unable to understand the reality of the situation and that's why so it's it's almost like a
a a shock in awe effect when people really start to find out what really happened and i and i don't blame them and i'm still shocked so so george from the
the first moment i started hearing the story and christopher steele and x you know and x spook i said to myself there's no such thing as an

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there's no such thing as an ex-spy that's not a real thing there's nobody who's an ex-spy because they always know your name they know who you are they they know you got some connections and favors you're never really an ex-spy and and i thought well when is the press going to tell me that great britain is highly culpable in this whole thing and i kept waiting and they kept presenting evidence that great britain was involved but they never said it and i kept saying well why why don't you say what's obvious that great britain had to be involved in this would am i wrong was great britain involved in this in terms of intelligence why is helping the united states or is that not a fact scott you're you're absolutely correct and in my book what i do is because remember i was basing the first month i was on the trump campaign and what was the number one issue that the uk was dealing with at that time that the pres that the candidate was very uh supportive of and that was brexit the

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brexit the establishment at that time clearly had a motivation to find out what trump and his team were up to considering how outspoken trump was for brexit to this day you see how sensitive the issue is in the uk and the president and i should say the candidate when he would speak about brexit and i would meet with uk officials they were extremely hostile i was speaking to iran at that point about how dangerous the candidate was to british interests around the world and that's why i'm not surprised surprised that christopher steele was british alexander downer was connected to mi6 stefan helper was connected to mi6 richard dear love was connected to mr6 and that's another example of it can't be a coincidence as you mentioned earlier and well now but doesn't wasn't there uh correct me on this wasn't there some interest or great britain certainly been it would have been concerned that trump was going to be too friendly to russia

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to russia which would be a gigantic security concern for anybody in the you know the vicinity of europe so do you think that was part of it just they didn't want a president who they thought perhaps mistakenly would be a little too friendly to russia if that's the case and i don't know i can't and i only speak about facts and then when i would speak with the uk government at that time they were very concerned with brexit more so than regarding russia now if that was indeed the case they probably forgot something over the last 100 years actually 200 years of american history and that's at the present foreign policy in this country not his not the diplomats not the bureaucrats not the unelected but the president and they would have seen a predict individual who from day one going as far back as 2015 stated that having a working relationship with russia and a more i guess confrontational relationship is in the us interest and that's exactly what's been

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interest and that's exactly what's been playing out for the last couple years and it's actually safeguarding u.s interests throughout the world all right all right so this this is fascinating i'm going to get on to some other topics here george but uh thank you so much for uh joining if anybody's joining uh late check out george papadopoulos's book deep state target how i got caught in the crosshairs of the plot to bring down president trump as i said the reviews for this book are just off the chart so it sounds like you should get a read get it get that and take a good read thanks george thanks for joining me thank you scott appreciate it take care all right that was excellent let's talk about some other stuff
all right um i've decided to uh to join with the professional athletes so the professional athletes as you know at the nba walked out and then some other sports also walked out in solidarity and

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also walked out in solidarity and they're walking out in protest about social injustice and i've decided to support them not by walking out of course but but i support their walk out and indeed i don't support them going back to work until systemic racism is solved so you might say to yourself hey isn't a boycott or a strike one of those things that you do because you've got something specific you want to accomplish but and it's short-term i guess it doesn't have to be so the athletes have walked out and if they go back to work before systemic racism in this country is
is fixed i don't know what to think i don't know what to think apparently they don't care about anything all right we still don't have an answer from the white house about why saliva test drips are not okayed by the fda i know there's some

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okayed by the fda i know there's some requirement that eased the restriction on reporting which was one of the hang-ups but i think that got blown away so the i think i think the fda has now said the reporting is optional for some of these types of tests but i told you more than a week ago that given that these saliva test strips the kinds that would you just do at home you don't need any kind of healthcare professional there's nothing that goes up your nose because of saliva you don't need a device this be like a pregnancy test now apparently these are easy to make or easy enough but and the math of it is even though they're not as sensitive as they like to say you could you could test so rapidly and so often that even with a less perfect test you would end up having a much better result because it would be frequent and it would catch people eventually and soon enough so given that this is the primary thing

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so given that this is the primary thing that could that seems practical that could stop the coronavirus in its tracks and the
the the white house has not and the fda have not answered the public and i'm just talking about giving us an answer either yes it's a good idea and we're working on it that'd be a good answer or no it's a bad idea and here are reasons that you didn't know about which could be acceptable but not answering it um screams corruption possibly impeachable did that sound too strong if it did let me say it again not getting at least an answer to the public and to the press about why these are either in the process and we'll get these approved pretty soon or why it's not in the process and there's a good reason without any answer either of those sides it has to be

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it has to be either corruption or something impeachable doesn't have to be illegal so um i think the trump administration needs to respond to that and again there are only two possibilities it's corruption or if it's being ignored for some other reason since they obviously know about it it's got to be impeachable whatever that reason is because the public has a very very clear right to know what's going on there does that sound too strong because i mean it somebody says bye now if they if they don't at least tell us it's either corruption or it's an impeachable something i don't know i don't know what else it would be because all they'd have to do is say we're working on it we'll get back to you and that'll be fine you know i don't i don't need a specific answer i need to know that they're willing to answer that's completely different yeah

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that's completely different yeah impeachable because it's such an obvious path that if they don't at least tell us why they're not taking it we cannot assume that they're doing their job on the single biggest priority of the country all right so that's the downer part of this let's get to something else the production i just i just lost about a thousand viewers by saying that that's for those of you who wonder if i ever criticized the trump administration so you can refer to that when you wonder the tv production was amazing so there was no competition between what the rnc and the dnc said now let me ask you this you're trying to pick a president based on competence right you know does he hire the right people can they get the job done what do we have to compare biden and trump we have biden who's never run a successful presidential campaign

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presidential campaign right being a senator is kind of easy if i'm being honest because they don't have to manage anything except whatever their little staff and the staff probably manages them as much as the other way around so biden has several has shown us several examples of his ability to get something done in a management leader way uh each of his prior campaigns which were failures like really big failures and then we have his current campaign which i think even even the people on the democratic side would would acknowledge it's done very poorly nobody would disagree with that right but somebody's mentioning the five dollar tests that were just approved completely different those have to be administered by healthcare professional and it's a nasal swab so if it has to be a healthcare professional that has

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a healthcare professional that has nothing to do with the the saliva test strips which individuals would use completely different application which would solve coronavirus versus the one that was approved which is real good but it doesn't come anywhere near solving anything it's not it's not meant for that um because the volume wouldn't be there all right so uh sorry i got interrupted but i saw your your comments there i wanted to address that so the production was great and if you compare that to biden he ran one of the worst conventions of all time no not one of it was the worst isn't that fair to say that the worst convention execution was the biden campaign so now he's got three or four failed presidential campaigns his only leadership management jobs that he's ever done that we know of then there's this campaign which he's

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then there's this campaign which he's failing right in front of us nobody would even doubt that i don't think
and um and now we see him organize his is the you know even though he's not personally organizing the democratic uh convention he's still sort of the the guy so if you look at what the democrats can do collectively it was a complete failure now compare this to trump's performance trump ran for president a few times but really just dipped his feet in you know but when he ran this last time i think everybody would say it was a great job great campaign more effective strategically went to the right states did all the right things had the right energy gave the best speeches had the best crowds and now you're watching the rnc that both sides 100 agree that the rnc just absolutely smoked

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that the rnc just absolutely smoked smoked the dnc in terms of production quality now once you've watched all of these manager-ish leadership organizational things and you've seen that biden has only failed that's all he's done there is no success that is biden managing and leading he's been involved with legislation he's been a gopher for obama but he hasn't really managed anything big trump has he's managed very big things and successfully so that contrast is enormous so you got that going on here are some surprises from last night what are the odds and this one this just blew me away so alice johnson who is is pardoned the right word she was released early on that first step thing i think i forget the details but she so trump got her out of jail before her term was over whatever term he used for that and uh what were the odds

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and uh what were the odds that alice johnson was also an incredibly good public speaker did anybody see that coming that was one of the coolest things that i don't know if it's going to get much you know much action but just the fact that she was rotting in prison you know no good to anybody well actually that's that's wrong i guess she was very productive in prison with other prisoners which is part of what got around early so apparently she's a really good person but she's a great public speaker i mean that was really good that's hard to do if you don't know how hard that is to do what alice jones did you might not quite appreciate how good she was i don't think she has practice she so i don't know where she's going in life but i'd watch her she's got some game david dorn's widow great on camera no obviously they probably tested everybody

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obviously they probably tested everybody to make sure that they'd do okay and they recorded things so they could do it more than once i suppose but she was amazing on camera um and then the president gave his what was called too long by both sides his uh his speech here's the thing why was it too long 70 minutes now most now most experts will say no you don't want to do a 70 minute speech somebody said uh i forget who that 13 minutes maybe you humor somebody 13 minutes is how long people can pay attention if it's nothing but you talking but i don't think that applies to trump i watched all 70 minutes didn't you i watched all 70 minutes and i couldn't pull my i couldn't pull myself away now i would agree that he seemed a little lower energy than he normally is and i think that's because they made him

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and i think that's because they made him you know or he agreed to read off the teleprompter he is not that excited with a smallish crowd reading off a teleprompter that's the two things you don't want to give trump a small crowd and a teleprompter that's that's not his ideal condition his ideal condition gigantic live crowd no teleprompter you know you know doing walking the the wire without the without the the help so uh he was a little low energy but does it the reason that was long is because he had so many accomplishments and he had so many legitimate complaints about biden he could have done a much shorter speech if he had no accomplishments but it took a long time to list all the stuff he's done a long time now i don't see how this election could possibly be close because biden is decomposing before our eyes trump's list of accomplishments which

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trump's list of accomplishments which we'll talk about how true or not true they are but it's a long list his list of accomplishments is very long and as somebody said in the comments it does demonstrate that he can stand and talk for 70 minutes late at night and that's pretty good
all right um you know that the the republicans nailed it in their convention because i immediately turned to
to cnn to see their response and they were in
in full tds frenzy i mean they were angry but the things that they had to complain about were so few that they had to be really angry about really small stuff so they ended up complaining about them using the lawn of the white house and the hatch act literally nobody in the country cares let me speak for a hundred percent of the voters in this country what's the hatch act it's what

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what's the hatch act it's what the president can't do what presidents do which is campaign for reelection in the white house i can sort of see why that might be a law but i don't care about it i wouldn't care if obama did it i wouldn't care if the next president does it i couldn't care less and by the way have you heard of the coronavirus you know it's a pretty good excuse to to work from home it's the coronavirus now uh of course the uh the participants were mostly not wearing masks and that became cnn story and i almost wondered if that was intentional because every time the president or the campaign forces his opponents to talk about the smallest stuff they're not talking about anything important that can hurt him if all they're talking about is hey those people didn't wear masks and then rand paul and the others walk outside and they're immediately greeted by large groups of of people who are now socially

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of of people who are now socially distancing and are all democrats at least democrat friendly so it first of all brings up the you know the hypocrisy thing because obviously there have been protests etc without social distancing but it does force them to talk about the things that the citizens care the least about yet it's true that as the leader of the country wouldn't it have been a better message to show them without masks or not to show them wearing masks as modeling good behavior i can see that i would say that's not an illegitimate criticism it's just not very big so it could be true it's a true criticism but it's sort of a small one and here's the funniest part the president i think is playing this strategically brilliantly so far we don't know if they're going to be

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we don't know if they're going to be able to maintain this but the discipline it takes for trump not to be too provocative during the convention think about it i don't think trump did anything during the entire convention that made that made the critics go crazy he played it straight and i don't think they like it because they need him to do some crazy stuff you know tweet something provocative somebody so we can really dig in and call him a racist or whatever we're going to call him and he just keeps telling us his accomplishments and that must be driving them crazy because the accomplishments even though they try to debunk them with the fact checkers and stuff there's still so many of them that the laundry list persuasion comes into play you know i always talk about it when it gets used against you it's devastating because it's a whole bunch of things you don't believe individually but damn there's so many of them must be something in that list

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them must be something in that list that's true so the president likewise has a really long list of accomplishments if he tried to pick off a few and say hey wait a minute that one's not true or that one's not quite the way you said it people go well yeah but look at all this other stuff i mean that's you know suppose you're right suppose that one isn't quite what he says look at all this other stuff so this the the laundry list persuasion is effective even if you think it shouldn't be so uh so they got that going on so the fact that the president has shown this much restraint even to the point where they thought is his his uh presentation was flat it's pretty pretty uh good strategy let's see if he can hold that because by the way all he would have to do and i say it like it's easy but it's not
not all he'd have to do is not intentionally cause trouble between now and election i don't see how he could lose because

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i don't see how he could lose because he's gonna have to do something wrong to lose this thing and it's going to have to happen between now and election day if he doesn't do something that's an unforced error between now and then i just don't see how he loses it just looks impossible from today's perspective all right so watching the uh cnn go crazy uh and they were really worked up it was funny to watch how agitated they were like literally funny i watch it as humor um so here are the kinds of fact checking that they do on trump's speech so they had their daniel dale fact check come on he was he was all worked up and he said that this is the lyingest president ever he's a serial liar and he had over 20 lies in his speech but listen to the things they call lies and compare them i will in a moment to joe biden's lies and see if you can see if there's a difference for example they fact

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for example they fact check fact checked trump on his claims of how many miles of the wall he's built and they say hey you can't count all that as new all because that is wall that's going in to replace inadequate wall that was going to be fixed anyway now is it a lie when the president says i have x hundreds of miles of wall if it's also true that there was some kind of barrier there before could have been small fence or wire but it wasn't working is there a reason that you replace a wall i think you replace a wall because it's not working would they be replacing things that were fine so i would say it's quite a big accomplishment if you've replaced walls and little fences and minor barriers with something that people can't get over because why were those minor barriers where they were and there are no minor barriers in other places well it's obvious because that was the critical

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obvious because that was the critical place there are some places that most of your volume is going to happen and they plug those places with good wall good enough wall now is that a lie well cnn says it's a lie i believe that a reasonable person could say yes it's a lie by omission but does it matter here's where i'm going with this how is your life changed by the fact that he's improving wall that wasn't doing the job versus building brand new wall which would be the wrong thing to do because first you want to improve the wall because that's where the traffic is it wouldn't make sense to claim credit for building new all if you hadn't fixed the old wall first so yeah i can see technically that it's an over claim i mean not even technically it's just a flat out

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technically it's just a flat out over claim because there's some context left out but does it bother you do you make less money is the country less safe let me give you another one trump claimed credit for some kind of veterans administration thing that he did and the fact checker says no no no obama got that going and what trump did was some minor revision that happened later okay sounds like a little hyperbole maybe a bit of an over claim but how did that affect you do were you less safe were did you make less money did somebody hate you were you hurt nothing let me give you another one so trump claims that obama the administration spied on his campaign that is fact-checked as false because cnn says no no you don't use that word

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cnn says no no you don't use that word spied it was more like they had a reason to do some uh intelligence george papadopoulos i think put some holes in that but cnn's claim is really that the word isn't quite right and maybe the full intention hasn't been proven but does that affect you because whatever it is you thought about that story you still think today didn't change anything did it so trump's lies as they call him as they call them or not fact not passing the fact-checking they all seem to have that quality that they don't kind of matter they just paint a picture that he's doing his job now let's compare that to joe biden's lies let's see if joe biden's lies are those harmless kind all right so joe biden has claimed famously that president trump called white supremacists fine people in charlottesville now

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fine people in charlottesville now suppose that the country believes that or some portion of the country is that harmless that is not harmless that is the sort of thing that rips the country apart it causes protests in the street it causes things that shouldn't trigger riots to trigger riots because it becomes the gasoline just waiting for a match maybe the match is these police actions that turn out tragically for for black people who got stopped by police that might be the trigger but the gasoline is this joe biden kind of a lie that the president is literally which he didn't praising white supremacists you can't compare that to exaggerating about how much wall you got built and leaving out some context those two things are not the same one is destroying the whole freaking country ripping apart everything good about this country and the other one is just a salesman talking

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the other one is just a salesman talking about his product being good that's it those are not the same um am i on shaky ground saying that that biden is lying well let me give you a little preview of something that you're going to see you're going to see in about you'll see in about an hour and 15 minutes or maybe maybe you'll see anyway you'll see a little later this morning so i got a little preview from the rasmussen reports and they did a survey to see how many people believe the fine people hoax how much do you love this so far there's an actual survey by rasmussen reports you'll see you'll see the official one in an hour so i gotta i get a little preview and uh apparently 73 percent of republicans
recall what trump actually said which is when he disavowed the white supremacists

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when he disavowed the white supremacists so they recall that he actually disavowed them which is what he actually said but 59 percent of democrats remember it the way biden does in other words if you want to know what is the limit of brainwashing you just found it because the perfect test is if you hold up you i'll do an exaggerated example if i hold up this pen and say am i holding a pen if everybody says um yeah we're looking right at it you're holding a pen there's no brainwashing but what if i could hold up a pen just as clear as this and say there's no pen here and i repeated it enough and i controlled the entire media cycle until 60 of the public couldn't see the pen anymore right it's right here and sixty percent of the public couldn't see it is that possible

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couldn't see it is that possible it just happened the rasmussen poll found out that democrats who presumably are mostly in some kind of a silo of news that 59 of them i'm gonna round that to 60 percent uh believe something happened even though they can look right at it and they know it didn't they can look right at it because you can look at the transcript it's just written right there but they've all seen for the most part they've seen the the hoax version that lops off the clarification by the way if you speak a lot in public as i do you know i do like an hour a day without much planning you very often will say something and then you start talking about something else and you'll realize that that thing you said a little while ago needed some clarification because the way you said it could have been misinterpreted so you double back you go okay just to be clear when i was talking about x this is what i meant

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i meant and this is what i did not mean just so you're all clear in that most common thing in the world when when you do that though it allows your enemies to lop off the clarification and and go with the thing that even you knew could have been misconstrued that's what happened with trump he knew it could be misconstrued so he doubled back without anybody asking nobody prompted him he was just he was just you know riffing and he doubles back and says just want to make sure it's clear i'm not talking about the the neo-nazis and the white nationalists and then they just lop that off so how many people were fooled by that edit 59 of democrats were fooled by it so if you so if you'd like to know what's the limit of brainwashing for something that can easily be checked just google it now it's i say easy but if you google that you might get more you'll probably get two of the hoaxes for every one of the you know the ones that shows the entire

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you know the ones that shows the entire thing so it isn't that easy but that gives you kind of a limit of how brainwashed a public can be so 73 percent of uh republicans got it right so even even a lot of republicans think he actually said that what and but here's the kicker if you want to know how this is going to play in the election 54 of people not affiliated i i think they're calling them they don't call them independents anymore because people maybe because people are not that independent when they actually vote they tend to be consistent one way or the other they just call themselves independent so i think maybe the new name for that with rasmussen is not affiliated with the either political party so the people who call themselves not affiliated uh 54 of them accurately know that the fine p that the fine people thing is a

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fine p that the fine people thing is a hoax 50 54 of people not affiliated with the party know that joe biden is lying about his most central campaign theme and if they were concerned about trump being not good with the fact-checking and so they wanted the one who didn't lie he's literally the worst liar we've ever seen worst not just in terms of quantity i don't know if he's worse than quantity maybe maybe trump beats him on quantity but in terms of how bad the lie is really really bad that's like one of the worst lies you could ever tell so rasmussen is going to make a lot of people have tds because they're going to argue that it's not
not it's not accurate that the president didn't call these people fine people but rasmussen cleverly shows the text that he did so part of

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shows the text that he did so part of the poll shows the actual you know the poll results not the poll but the poll results show his actual words so there's no doubt about rasmussen being right about that interpretation all right um 39 percent of people pulled said they actually believed uh biden wow um
so here's a little uh oh and the other thing that biden lies about it of course is that the president suggested drinking disinfectant for coronavirus which did not happen i've described in detail that he was talking about light technology it's obvious if you see the whole quote but it's not obvious if they lop off the introduction and the summary where he clarifies that he was talking about light so what did the what did the mainstream press do they lopped off the clarification before that gives it context as light and they lopped off his last sentences

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lopped off his last sentences where he brings it back to light so you know he was only ever talking about light all right so that's how that hoax is created and biden still pushes that now is it dangerous that the public thinks that the person leading the coronavirus effort thought ever thought that drinking bleach which is what they you know anderson cooper changes it into drinking bleach it's pretty dangerous it's pretty dangerous to tell the public during a pandemic that their leader is actually that that crazy that's dangerous because you need the public to comply when the when there's something to comply with all right um here's a little trick for you that i used at my restaurant years ago
ago and i've uh i've reconstituted it and it's a persuasion trick and it goes like this if there's somebody who's a big critic of yours and in my old restaurant days i actually got a picketer so there was a guy who

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guy who who picketed my restaurant because he he got fired for something he didn't like i forget what it was and you know he deserved to get fired but he didn't like it so he picketed it and for a while it was really bothering the staff so i came in and i saw the picketer and i said who's the mascot and so as soon as i redefined our lone picketer as our mascot it just became funny and then nobody cared anymore and then he got bored and went away after a while so i've decided that jennifer rubin is the mascot for fake news she's not the person who just continually makes up crazy takes on trump because i don't know why it looks like a mental problem but i can't diagnose it from afar i could just say what it looks like yeah but
but she she used to bother you right you'd see a jennifer rubin a story about trump and you just say what what what is wrong with you that you

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what what is wrong with you that you would interpret it such a such a bad way so stop thinking that and just think that whenever you see her she's the mascot for the fake news it's similar to uh uh who's the uh carl carl bernstein the worse than watergate guy if you only just listen to him complaining about the president he's the most annoying person in the world because he seems so illegitimate like there's nothing about him that seems even a little bit credible he's just a partisan but as soon as i define him as the worst than watergate guy that they take out of the closet when they need they don't have anything they bring him out when they don't have anything if you haven't noticed that they only they only wheel out carl bernstein when there's nothing to complain about and they just need somebody who will complain anyway it's like okay we don't have any any meat but carl doesn't need any he'll just say it's worse than watergate whatever it is so just think of him that way it's

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so just think of him that way it's funnier if you're not keeping up with this uh kyle rittenhouse shooting in kenosha the the latest videos make it pretty clear that he's going to get off from any kind of murder charge because it's so it's so unambiguously well i won't say unambiguously but certainly in a situation where reasonable doubt is is the prime thing that you're trying to prove or disprove in a reasonable doubt situation all three of the people that he shot allegedly were quite unambiguously attacking him now maybe there's some question about did he know that he was in grievous bodily potential harm i would say he was because if any one of those protesters had say gotten the advantage on him the other protesters would have swarmed in so i think he has just the most airtight self-defense defense

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airtight self-defense defense there may be other issues about why was he there with a gun he was 17. so there may be some you know illegality in that sense but there really isn't much chance he's going to get convicted of murder based on what we've seen have you noticed that uh joe biden has a dementia smile that he uses to stall for time when he gets an unfamiliar question that requires him to think watch for it and it goes like this so you know biden sometimes has angry biden look get off my lawn you know hatchet get off my lawn i'm stealing amy klobuchar's joke about get off my lawn which was a pretty good tweet um so he's got his angry look angry stern squinty i'm squinty stern and scaring but then he also has his uh he smile too big and laugh and laugh too hard and it goes like this uh joe biden um you know

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uh joe biden um you know a big part of the country knows that you're lying about the fine people hoax what do you say to that now that would be a tough question how does joe answer it for those of you who are listening on podcast this won't be nearly as hilarious as for the people watching it on video when i give my joe biden smiles impression and it looks like this first of all he only smiles with one side and then that one side is too big so it's like
and he gives a smile and then he he'll laugh come on man come on man
so look for the over smile it's a total total tip-off that the dementia has slowed him down and he's looking for a stalling technique and so laughing about the laughability of the joke it is so laughable that question

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so you'll see a lot of that nancy pelosi has suggested that maybe it would be a bad idea for biden to debate because trump just lies and what would be the point is debating with somebody who's just going to get up there and lie or take all your real estate on stage and crowd you what about that now i don't think that that necessarily means that joe biden uh has already agreed privately let's say publicly he says he wants to debate but i don't think it means that privately joe biden has decided he's not going to debate because here's the problem joe biden probably thinks he can or he's talked himself into thinking that he can debate i don't think there's anybody on the democrat side who actually believes he can at least the people who are on the inside and have good information about him
him i don't think there's anybody who thinks he can debate so pelosi by floating the idea that he shouldn't debate from such a high level

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shouldn't debate from such a high level of democrat power makes you think that maybe it's already approved but i think she's just testing the idea i think she wanted to see what the pundits and the public said about it but i think it it's also creating space so that it wouldn't be some big surprise if biden later said you know there's no point in debating with this big old liar so i'm just going to cancel i think she's just softening the room so and i also think that somebody doesn't know how to talk to biden and tell him he can't do this i think that's a real problem like an actual problem for the country i doubt there's anybody who can tell him that he's not up to it and just be honest about it i don't know that they can do it
all right um did you see biden try to get through an anderson cooper interview he was doing by zoom or something like it and it did not

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zoom or something like it and it did not look good he joe did not look like he was fully with it he bumbled a little bit he answered the wrong question and threw in his charlottesville hoax for some unrelated question about somebody else it didn't look good and i felt as though anderson cooper was feeling quite awkward feeling quite awkward because you don't really know how to deal with that
speaking of rasmussen they also have a poll result that says 51 percent of both democrats and unaffiliated voters agree that it is important for biden to address the dementia issue publicly this view is shared by 81 of republicans so it's mostly republicans 81 percent but there's a good little slice of democrats and independents who think you know if you add them all together

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together 38 percent of voters think to think biden has dementia so 81 of republicans want it to be addressed that just means they're suspicious but 38 of all voters think biden has dementia
and and people think that he can win just the fact that anybody thinks that he can actually win this thing is crazy now somebody smart said to me yeah but you know the coronavirus performance is going to be the whole story and that's all people are going to care about and you know trump is not getting a pluses from the public on that or at least not from the democrats and so he's vulnerable to which i say it's not november yet do you know how much is going to happen between now and november a lot and in all likelihood wherever we are on the coronavirus we'll be in better shape

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better shape either we'll be right just a few weeks away from the vaccination which would look like progress even if you don't like the vaccination idea we'll probably have some more therapeutics we'll probably have an economy of this recovering a little bit better oh here's another one of the things that cnn calls a lie from the president they say the president says we gained x million jobs you know since april but he forgets he neglect not forgets but he leaves out that we lost 22 million well does he need to put that in there is there anybody watching the president claim that we've gained 9 million or whatever it was jobs in the last month or so is there anybody who doesn't understand without being told that we lost more than that and we're just you know making back some of our loss is there anybody who didn't understand that so that was fact jack the lie because he left out the context that

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because he left out the context that everybody understands so these are the trivial kinds of things that cnn says are the president's lies and then you've got dumbass biden with his uh race-baiting you know hoax that will rip the society apart those are not equal all right um somebody says did harris speak yesterday i think she did but she didn't get much attention
um so kamala's speech he's completely lying well if you're looking for the politician who doesn't lie good luck good luck there's still uh still buzz about hydroxychloroquine uh between now and november do you know what's also is going to happen you can have a lot more drug trials for hydroxychloroquine that have been completed

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have been completed some of them i don't know if there's anything going on now but i'm hoping there's at least one of those gold standard types of clinical trials for hydroxychloroquine i don't know if there will be but what if there is what what if between now and election day there's a gold standard test for hydroxychloroquine and it shows it works or shows it doesn't work it's going to be a pretty big impact on the on the minds of voters whichever way it goes i do think that president trump's going hard on china is devastatingly effective because biden is obviously framed as soft on china and i think that's fair framing i don't think that's unreasonable and
i that alone is gigantic i mean that would win the midwest just by being hard on china and trying to get the manufacturing back trump also has a surprisingly good story

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trump also has a surprisingly good story on health care because he's cut enough regulations from telehealth to making the most favor most favored nations that's not cutting a regulation but
but getting drug prices that are no worse for the united states than anywhere else these are some pretty big deals so the rand paul attack i i don't know that feels a little bit political in the sense that he wasn't attacked attacked as in nobody was trying to hit him maybe they would have if he had not been surrounded by police maybe they would have but i don't think he was assaulted per se i think there was just aggressive protesters now i wouldn't want any aggressive protesters coming at me like that and if i had a gun if i had a gun i don't know what i'd do if they surrounded me like that and i didn't have police protection i'm not exactly sure how that would go down but it's definitely something to be worried about and somebody pointed out on twitter that

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and somebody pointed out on twitter that maxine waters had called for this very behavior of not letting these public figures be unharassed in public so democrats got to own this i think
so dr zelenko somebody says in the comments says there's a conspiracy theory to squelch the hydroxychloroquine uh and uh i i don't know about that we'll see i'm still at a 30 chance the hydroxychloroquine works and you know there was some effort to suppress it um i saw the question about jim gaffigan i'm going to give an answer to that only to the subscribers on locals because i uh i know jim and i met him spent some time with him uh
uh and uh i'll tell the people on locals what that was like all right um and by the way if if you haven't watched

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and by the way if if you haven't watched jim gaffigan's stand-up comedy he's just about one of the best ones working today maybe the best could be the best working uh comedian um
rioters are preventing voters from reaching polls maybe i don't know
yeah kamal harris gave a pre-bottle speech and nobody cared that's probably true oh uh just adding to the uh oh i forgot to tell you uh so i had set a trap by saying that joe biden's campaign has a lot of satanic imagery i say i said before and after and several times during that i'm not a believer in other words i don't believe in satan i don't believe he exists but there are a bunch of coincidences that could be confirmation bias probably are
are that look satanic in terms of the the

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that look satanic in terms of the the campaign and somebody pointed out that on their logo they've got a pentagram that's like the satanic pentagram i thought man when you start looking for it
it when you start looking for it you sure can find a lot of it uh which again doesn't mean it's true however there was a publication which uh decided to fact check me and some kind of some kind of group that tries to fact check people they think are on the right and what they did is they lopped off my uh
uh part about i'm not a believer so they did the same editing trick as the fine people hoax same one as the drinking disinfectant same one as the over feeding the koi fish so it's always the same trick if there's a clarifier in there they just edit that out so they edited out my clarifier to make it look as though i was saying with complete sincerity that joe biden is running a satanic campaign and this was

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running a satanic campaign and this was of course to make me look crazy but that wasn't the play the play was to get attention to that idea and if somebody else believes it well that's on them i already said i don't believe it so if they see coincidences and they find it compelling well that would be all their own decision because i do not tell them to do that because i don't see it there are just a lot of coincidences that's just a fact all right that's all for now and i will talk to you later