Episode 1090 Scott Adams: Join me To Find out if Kamala Harrass is the Right Pick for Grabby Biden

Date: 2020-08-12 | Duration: 58:25

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• Kamala and the double-puppet maneuver

• Attacks on Kamala’s ancestry and life

• Kamala + top shelf advisors = powerful

• BLM co-founder says looting is reparations

• T Cells and herd immunity

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[Music] hey
hey anything happened yesterday that uh would be of interest to me [Laughter] oh yes it did well you may have missed my
my celebratory little periscope that i did last night after my prediction came in but this is the one that matters this is the periscope you wanted to be at
at yeah because this one has something called the simultaneous sip it makes everything better and all you need is a copper marker glass of tanker jealous or stein a candy jugger flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine of the day the thing that makes everything better including predictions join me now go so good so good well did you hear the

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so good so good well did you hear the news joe biden picked camalleris don't call her camelot no no no she's not camelot she's kamala we must all learn to pronounce it properly it's not kamala it's not camelot it's not a lot it's not kamala it's kamala and you should say that right otherwise it's disrespectful as as i guess tucker found out last night which was pretty funny uh when when tucker was pronounced was corrected on the pronunciation of her name by a guest tucker said who cares all right let's talk about what's going on here number one how many of you have read my

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number one how many of you have read my book win bigly in which i talked about the election in 2016 and predicting trump would win well if you did you would know that there's an odd little claim in that book a very odd little claim and it goes like this and once you hear this it's hard to unhear it you can't tell the difference between a good prediction and something you caused because sometimes you can cause your prediction to come true now i'll just put this out here i'm not saying that i caused kamala to be selected as vice president i'll just put this out there if anybody read my book win bigly who happened to be a democrat well first of all is it likely that any influential democrats would have read my book win bigly annie

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win bigly annie probably it's a big country you'd expect some people to check out any kind of book that talked about influence and persuasion in the concept in the context of an election if you are an election professional if you're an advisor to any candidate would you be tempted to look at a book that taught you how to do it better which indirectly when bingley does probably well if all you were doing is you know even researching what the other side is thinking you'd probably come across that book and that's where i talk about prediction and and causing something looking the same and the question is when i said that kamala would be the strongest choice did that make any difference was there anybody on the democrat side who said you know we can't tell who the strongest choice is but that guy over there who got some things right before he thinks kamal harris is the strongest

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he thinks kamal harris is the strongest choice could that influence their decision
don't know that's why i don't make the claim i'm just making the interesting claim that they look the same and you can't sort them out so it's entirely possible that i might have been inadvertently part of the process of the decision making where they said you know we can't tell the difference they all look good to us but but why are they so scared of kabul harris
it's possible i don't make the claim i just put it out there so i think what you're seeing is what i call the double puppet maneuver i don't know if we've ever seen a double puppet maneuver before but the double puppet maneuver oh you want to say it don't you let me give you a moment once you hear something like double puppet maneuver you have to kind of say it out loud because you saw how good it felt when i said it double puppet maneuver

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puppet maneuver yeah take some time say it at home it'll feel good and it works like this the first puppet of course is that uh hollow joe will become the puppet of a stronger vice president and it's very unusual to have a vice president who's stronger than the top of the ticket in fact is it the only time has it ever happened before have we ever had a vice presidential candidate who basically everyone on both sides looked and said okay the vice president is a little stronger than the top of the ticket have we ever had that i think it's the first time
so so biden is the first puppet and kamala has her hand up his little puppet innards but here's the double puppet part yeah i said it double puppet part and the question is who has their hand up kamala harris's back is she her own candidate

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back is she her own candidate or are there powerful people behind her who are playing the long game and expecting that she's going to be the power and that backing her will pay off in the long run and who are those people behind the curtain well we do know that um harris apparently inherited a lot of campaign people from the hillary clinton world and she's probably got some obama people who back her as well so do you know who the president would be
be if biden and harris won nope oh dick cheney thank you yes you make a good point dick cheney was possibly the power behind bush but i would still say that bush was you know even on his own he was a powerful character in fact i tell this story before

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i tell this story before bush jr ran for office i was giving a speech in texas and one of the other speakers i think the one before me uh was or after me i can't tell i can't remember but it was george bush and he was when he was governor and one minute after he started speaking you could feel the energy in the room and it was not the energy of a governor talking to people in in their state george bush the younger had that he had the thing you know if you were in the room before he was running for president you knew he was going to be president all right you can feel it you know i just sat there and thought i'm seeing the next president here now i wasn't a big supporter i'm just saying that you could feel it sitting in the room you knew he was going to be president it was almost it was almost palpable you

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it was almost it was almost palpable you could just you could almost see it like the future it was just so obvious when he walked in the room and you either have that thing or you don't you know obama had it bill clinton had it so although it is true that cheney may have been the power behind the throne it is nonetheless true that uh that bush the younger he had he had the goods when it comes to how the public sees him um but anyway let's talk about the double puppet i would say that hillary clinton found a way to be president
yeah you're singing in the comments you're ahead of me yeah it looks like the clinton operation if you will call it
it you know it doesn't have to be an organized thing but you know there is a connection of people who have common interests and connections to the clintons etc and so the biden candidacy looks a lot like a double

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candidacy looks a lot like a double puppet maneuver with hillary clinton or or at least that machine being more influential than you think that they ought to be
now let's talk about how the democrats and especially their pet press is dealing with us so now this is sort of a challenge for the anti-trump you know pro-biden media how are they going to treat kamala harris will they treat her harshly no no they won't treat her harshly they will put a warm embrace around her do you think that they have all coordinated their messages well it would be a surprise if they hadn't if if cnn's you know universe of punditry if they have not talked directly to the or even indirectly to the harris

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to the or even indirectly to the harris biden team to figure out how they should cover the campaign in the most friendly way i would be surprised i would be surprised because that wouldn't conform to anything that we've observed for the last several years they do seem to be working together and i don't mean that in a conspiracy kind of a way i mean that as in well just open your eyes it's it's obvious you just have to watch to know that they're working together i don't think that's anything that is disputable and so i claim that if you were to look at the choice of words that the the pro-kamala people are using you can start to see what they've agreed is the message and it may come out it might slowly form or it might very quickly form but already i think we're seeing some hints now the background of this is i told you that when i studied hypnosis i learned that people will reveal their hidden intentions

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hidden intentions by their choice of words they don't know they're doing it they think they're saying x but if you look at the words they choose the words are telling you you're saying x but the words you chose are making me think why and i don't think it's an accident and the hypnotist learns that it probably is not an accident no obviously there could be false positives because people do just pick weird words sometimes but if you look at the entire body of work and there's a consistency to it then it means more alright so you look for the pattern not just any one person who said one thing and here's the first part of the pattern obama made a statement and he was happy about the choice or so it seemed in his statement and he used this phrase he said that joe biden nailed the decision he nailed the decision interesting choice of words because

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interesting choice of words because there are a million ways to say that it was a good decision and you support it but nailed the decision what's that make you think of well if you're having fun on twitter you're going to say nailed it kadala harris has that interesting personal life in her past with willie brown nailed it well that's one interpretation that um you know that maybe obama was thinking in those terms i don't think so i don't think he was here's what i think what is the other context in which you hear nail a lot when you hear nail would you say there's a nail in the campaign no how about a nail in the house no how about a nail in the coffin

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how about a nail in the coffin how about a nail in the coffin because kamala harris is the final nail in biden's coffin meaning i don't mean literally dying i mean his political death because you need a kamala harris to get rid of a joe biden he doesn't leave on his own let me ask you this if you were the powers behind the democratic party and you knew you knew that joe biden couldn't you know get to the starting line much less the finish line and you had to take him out you had to what kind of vice president would you put in that position because it's the vice president who's going to have to do this tap tap tap on the shoulder joe we need to have a talk um i don't want to be unkind i'm just being realistic i know you'd want me to tell you you're not ready for this job who else could do that could that be

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who else could do that could that be done by let's say val demings somebody that biden maybe just met this year it'd be hard how about somebody that he's known for a while but he's not too close to maybe elizabeth warren it'd be a hard conversation wouldn't it elizabeth warren uh joe i think you're i think you're not quite ready for the job i don't think you'll come across how about somebody who joe biden's son his beloved son who's who's sadly departed from this world how about someone who is close with his son and with him and he felt a real connection with him could that person tap him on the shoulder and say joe this is a tough conversation but it's time yeah she could name one other person who could do that nobody well i mean nobody we know of nobody who has a national reputation ran for president is a legitimate contender for the

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is a legitimate contender for the presidency it's that weird little little little niche where they could be president you could see him that way but they could also tap him on the shoulder and not be a dick about it because it's the being a dick about it that's the tough part to pull off anybody could tap them on the shoulder but you got to do it right all right first of all he he deserves it you know joe biden deserves i think he deserves a respectful final chapter and he deserves somebody who cares about him and i believe she does to do the you know to do the final final move so she's the perfect one for that all right so that's obama saying that he nailed the decision which makes me think of a nail in the coffin which makes me say huh is that just a coincidence that he would use that word that word nail that immediately made me think of coffin which immediately

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think of coffin which immediately immediately made me think of the end of joe biden maybe could be just a coincidence easily could be a coincidence let's see some other wording here this from chris eliza pundit on cnn who you may know as being very democrat friendly not too surprising on cnn and here's his wording listen carefully to the to the last part of this because it's the exact choice of words that matters joe biden made the pick that maxed about maximize his chances of continuing to make the race a straight referendum on trump blah blah while also selecting someone whose resume suggests being ready to step in do you say ready to step in when you're talking about somebody who is ready for the presidency because ready for the presidency is what we

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ready for the presidency is what we always say right yeah the vice president pick that's a person who can walk into the job tomorrow that's the way you'd normally say right but when do you say step in step in sounds like you're you're the person who's causing something to happen stepping in is active it's not hey something happened i guess you're the default and now you're the president no step in is an active word or an active term so let me read the whole sentence suggests being ready to step in if and when biden decides to step aside what if and when biden decides to set aside it would be one thing to say if if not if biden decides to set aside it's another thing to say when now of course he can defend this easily right because biden has already said he would be a one-term president so you can easily

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one-term president so you can easily interpret this as oh you know when he decides not to run for a second term she'd be all queued up but the word is step in it's the it's not a continuity of the policies they're talking about they're talking about stepping in to stop something if and when biden decides to step aside step aside all right there's no doubt in my mind that this signals as clearly as possible that the vice president is more important than this decision obviously so it looks like a cat is on the roof situation it looks like the um the friendly press is going to start softening the room so that when their own team hears for the first time because it might be a surprise to democrats but not to republicans so when their own team hears that maybe the vice president

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the vice president just possibly putting this out there just spitballing i don't know anything could possibly happen we're just considering all possibilities if she were to say step in now if you just blurted this out on day one it would be pretty bad wouldn't it if you just blurted out and say all right we got the person who's the top of the ticket she'll be getting rid of joe and uh just think to think of her as the top of the ticket well you can't do that on day one that's not a day one message you gotta you gotta you know creep toward it you know that's the joke the cat's on the roof you know if the cat died you don't want to tell your you know your your friend or your brother that his cat died so you soften a little bit say hey you know the cats on the roof were trying to get it down the next day you say oh we tried to get it down but it jumped and it looks like it's injured but you know we took it to the vets we'll see and then the third day say succumb to his injuries so when they say kabul is ready

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so when they say kabul is ready just in case she needs to step in yeah if it went if and when biden decided to step aside i think that's telling the public don't be surprised i think it's softening the room is what you're seeing now watch for this see how often the democrats themselves and they might hold off for a few days but see how often they talk in these terms as her as the replacement until it's so it seems so ordinary that it doesn't even seem unusual that they replaced the top of the ticket before maybe before the nomination would be my guess i think they're at least looking at it for before the nomination i feel that's i feel it's safe to assume that conversation has happened all right how about somebody else how about frida gitas writing on cnn how would this pundit try to frame harris in the most friendly way uh and this pundit called

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friendly way uh and this pundit called her a centrist a perfect match for joe biden because he's a centrist and she's a centrist and then let me check on fox news let's see if they're calling kamala harris a centrist don't see that word nope turns out that fox news and all the republicans will be calling her a wild wild progressive who is going to change things so radically you won't recognize this country and she'll be ruining it in the process so what do they do to combat kamala harris being a wild socialist uh crazy person they say oh she's a centrist centrist so watch them try to protect her in the centrist thing and how about this so this is also from frida keites i think i'm pronouncing that right we're close says of harris she would become the first woman vice president

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first woman vice president and she also has a very good shot at becoming president not only because of biden's age but because she is now the automatic choice for his successor not only because of his age so we're already talking about successor did people talk about uh mike pence as trump's successor did did you did you ever hear one time somebody say oh yeah mike pence he would be trump's successor no you didn't so watch all the language about that um assuming that the two tweets
all right are getting lit up here on on incoming messages so i'm gonna have to turn this off um so sean king you all know him uh he is a what would you call him a a uh activist for the black community

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a uh activist for the black community would that be fair an activist for the black community
who for whatever reason doesn't appear to be a black person but it's not for me to judge he self-identifies that way but that's part of the story so apparently some time ago before biden was selected as the presumptive nominee he said there are two candidates you should not consider he tweeted this one of them is bided and the other is harris and the reason that those two in particular are ruled out is because they're too racist in their past decisions meaning police actions and the legal system and causing more black people to be put in jail and so sean king said those are the only two you should not consider totally racist policies anybody else's is okay but those two off the table and uh he's revised that to 100 support

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so well a lot can change in a few months get it we went from oh there are only two that you can't consider to 100 support what a good choice got the strongest team i've ever seen all right let's talk about the attacks coming in on harris does it matter that allegedly her i don't know great great grandparents or somebody owned slaves in jamaica do you think that that will matter to anybody the answer is no it won't you know the republicans will make a big deal about it
it but i think it will change zero votes because here's the thing if you're trying to get reparations and you're trying to get something or you're trying to influence etc yeah you make a big deal about maybe the people you're trying to influence hey you know people who look like you own slaves and therefore maybe we should get well we want so it's a good line of attack

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a good line of attack but it's not one anybody believes in in other words even the people saying you should pay reparations it's more of a technique it's not that i don't think too many people think that i owe anybody reparations having no connections to any slavery in my past whatsoever and indeed being closely connected to the abolitionists in the northeast you know that's where my family comes to that line so does anybody really i mean really think that i owe any reparations well they'll say it if i ask people they say yeah here's my argument but nobody really feels it right it's just sort of an argument you can make and it might work but in order for kamala harris to suffer from this accident of history that somebody for some of her relatives were in that line of business allegedly you'd have to care about it and their own team doesn't care about it it's just a technique so i don't think that'll have any any impact you know it's

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impact you know it's it's a kitchen sink kind of an attack where you just throw everything at her and see what sticks so that'll be in the mix but won't be especially important how about this i think it's interesting that the pro kamala harris people can't quite decide how to label her i don't know if they'll ever settle on this but is she the first black woman a black woman on a major party's presidential ticket or is she also the first indian american or is she the first indian black woman how do they what do they call her will the black community say oh yeah she's one of us and and if they do do they just ignore the the other half of her i mean it worked with obama right with obama the the black part of his heritage was embraced

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his heritage was embraced and that sort of became the defining thing and i think that worked to his advantage because much of the country was saying the same thing i said this too which is can't we just get a black president just can we just get past this you know as long as you can do the job you know i'm not even too particular if it's my first choice i'd like to get a black president so i'm completely guilty of judging obama positively because of his ethnicity because i just thought the country needed to get past it and i also think we need to get past the never having a woman for president maybe not this time you know i'm not i'm not all caught up on it being this election but yeah america needs to get past this um and i would even agree you know in in a weird way you might not expect this but i would agree with how many how many people signed a letter in the democratic party saying you know let's let's put a black woman into the presidency or at least set one up to potentially be

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or at least set one up to potentially be there um that's not a wrong impulse as long as it's a good candidate right because you can get a twofer you know what what would be better than having a perfectly good candidate who also makes the rest of the country feel yeah okay anybody can be president we've now demonstrated that anybody could be present well i think you'd have to throw in the lgbtq candidate someday to really say everybody but it'd be a plus in my opinion if she were the right candidate and i'm not sure that's the case in this case so we'll see how she gets labeled and it almost feels like the democrats are going to have to test this think about how distasteful this following thought is the democrats probably are polling and doing focus groups which would be normal all the way through the process but one of those focus groups probably or polls probably will be what do we

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or polls probably will be what do we call her do we just say would you just go with african-american because that's our strongest play or do we go with both and say yeah she's she's she's better than just being black she's also got you know first indian american thing going for her too and and how do you feel and this is part i have a complete blind spot for i i know i have no sense for how this will be received by indian americans if you're if you're uh you know you have indian heritage and you're an american citizen and you're going to vote do you care about this at all i don't know i don't know if you care about it one way or the other um and if you're a a black citizen in this country does it bother you that they couldn't find a proper black person here i'm using proper in the you know not the serious sense proper in the sense of

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sense of seriously you couldn't find somebody who was just black you know all the other candidates who were being considered not all of them but a number of the other candidates who are being considered you wouldn't have to wonder what was their heritage you'd just say okay this person's black aren't we glad we have the black vice president on the ticket so i don't know how is it somebody somebody who is a member of the black community needs to fill me in because i don't have a good sense of whether that's a positive or a negative oh and then there's also the uh the jamaica connection how do people see that in the united states so i don't know i'll leave that as an open question somebody can fill me in later how about the claims that kamala harris uh somebody said this embodies systemic

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uh somebody said this embodies systemic racism because uh she had allegedly put innocent black men in prison and tried to keep him there what about that do you think that democrats will treat her harshly as republicans hope will be the case because she was tough on crime and maybe even tough on innocent people she was so tough on crime that you know if she got you in jail she wanted to keep you there even if the information changed that's the claim i don't know that that matters i actually don't i just don't know if democrats are going to respond to this because i think harris will do a perfectly good job of reinventing herself so that whatever she used to do as a prosecutor and let me tell you the easiest way to do this if i were her i would just say when i was a prosecutor i did everything in my power to be a prosecutor did i ever get one wrong probably probably unfortunately you

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probably probably unfortunately you can't really be a prosecutor in a major metropolitan area and get them all right i wish it were an option but i don't know that it is however what i can tell you is that i will take that same intensity that you know i know people saying that maybe i got something wrong but i'm going to take that intensity to the presidency or vice presidency etc so i think you you could just describe it as being a different job you know the prosecutor mindset is different from the senate mindset and i think she can just say she's reinvented i don't even know if she needs to say she did anything wrong she could just say you know that was when i was a prosecutor let's talk about you know let's talk about modern times not ancient times
so that's a reasonably good attack and i can see that i think some of the black community was already primed to be not too happy about that part of her past so we'll see if that makes a

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her past so we'll see if that makes a difference it could the new york times uh hilariously ran a like a full like gigantic photo of harris looking pretty awesome you know she i think she had a leather jacket on and arms are crossed and it was a flattering angle it just made her look powerful and substantial and then somebody somebody went back and saw how did the new york times cover the selection of mike pence and they showed that the day he was selected by trump has this little postage stamp in the corner so one of them is this full-page glamour shot of kamala but mike pence postage stamp bottom right hand corner where nobody reads it so if you think that your press is independent hahaha all right so one of the things that people are saying about comlet and i think you're gonna watch this because they're saying that she that uh uh that she causes a string a strong negative reaction in people

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a strong negative reaction in people that's true what do you say would you not say that kamala harris does create a strong negative reaction in a lot of people i feel that's true both on her own team and obviously the other team and so the question is is that a negative and i would say watch out for that watch out for that because the thing that makes you really care about anything is also an indicator of influence i would suggest that it's possible that the reason republicans are so anti-harris is exactly because she's scary scary in terms of she might have the goods she might be able to to crack this up
uh whoever said next topic we're gonna ban you forever
i just don't like the negativity um so here is what i would caution you

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so here is what i would caution you think of some people who who generate really intense negatives aoc and president trump those two characters generate more negativity than maybe anybody you've seen lately but
but they're also two of the most successful people is that a coincidence i would suggest it's not that that strong negative feeling you feel about any candidate is you being afraid of them in many cases and if you're afraid of them it suggests they have power it suggests that you know they have power so the reason that you even care is that you think they could actually get something done and it's not what you want done if you thought they were completely weak and ineffective you would still make your jokes and you'd still take your sides but you wouldn't care that much you wouldn't feel it harris does have the x factor sorry from day one and part of the

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sorry from day one and part of the reason that i predicted her in early 2018 is when i selected her from all the people that were at least in the conversation for running for president the reason i picked her out of the crowd is the same reason i picked trump out of the crowd in 2015. same reason i picked aoc out of the crowd when everybody said she's a flash in the pan and i said oh no that's whatever you're seeing there is no flash in the pant that's a that's real and there's going to be more of that not less of it and here we are aoc is a important national figure in no time at all so harris has the same thing maybe a lighter form i'm not sure she has the full wattage of either the two i mentioned but
but she she causes you to remember her and she causes you to look at the tv when she's on and she causes you to feel something if you've got that stuff going for you you can channel it eventually

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you can channel it eventually now the way that aoc channeled her power if you can call it that is we assume she had a great advisor have you not heard that that she was actually selected by really skilled operators she was trained and then she was guided through her tweets and her initial stuff she may be operating on her own now but we think that having expert guidance on top of that raw whatever that is she has is what made her what she is likewise trump has this raw power but in his case he's had decades of practice honing it and using it influencing talking in public so he was basically his own advisor in a sense you know trump just figured out how to control his power over over uh his experience and here's what to watch with harris watch what the world-class advisers on the democrat side do with her she is not going to be the

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do with her she is not going to be the same candidate she was in the primaries and by the way i predicted this when she dropped out of the primaries i said that she's going to come back
upgraded that way you saw was version 1.0
1.0 and version 2.0 is going to look different sound different and act differently is it different or differently in that context i always get those wrong but and i think you already saw it so the criticisms that i used to make is that she used to laugh too much at her own jokes which makes her seem uh less confident and less of a leader so watch for her to be less of a giggly about stupid things happening in her environment like because that that just takes away from the whole presidential vibe 100 chance that when she got to the level that she was being considered for vice president that there were serious advisors that got involved for the first time

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got involved for the first time like the the really high-end ones that tell you to do something and you say to yourself i think that's totally wrong but because you told me to do it and i know you know what you're talking about i'm going to give it a try you know you need somebody that strong of an advisor to cause somebody with that strong of a personality to actually behave differently it would be hard to do
do so i think that she has now the top advisors and you also see this do you know how she used to move when she talked she would move her shoulders and made her look unconfident she'd say well you know i think i think the president is a big old baddie whatever and as long as her her shoulders were jumping around she didn't look confident watch this you you take her persona and you just give her enough lessons to bring it down to a confident smile confident smile and just a clear clean presentation

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and just a clear clean presentation and you've got a whole different candidate and she's dangerous if you think that she can't take out president trump you might be underestimating her now we haven't seen her in full action in this context it could be the first two or three times we see her it's so bad that we just go okay that i guess she couldn't take couldn't take instructions i guess she didn't learn anything i don't know that that's going to happen i think you're going to see a different candidate i think she'll be more serious more focused she'll have better energy and i think she'll even dress differently i'll bet you'll see differences in everything from her makeup to her jewelry to her hairstyle and that it will be the changes that are not just cosmetic but um let's say targeted for the the look and the time and the purpose and the and the effect all right uh there's a photo of joe biden talking to kamala on his computer and

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talking to kamala on his computer and uh telling her that she's selected as if she didn't already know that the funny thing about this to me is that you see joe biden's desk so it looks like is his personal desk and he has on his desk a hagar the horrible comic strip framed
now if you didn't already have enough reason to vote against joe biden let me say it again he has a hagar of the horrible comic strip on his desk no dilbert comic anywhere if you look on that whole desk there's not a single dilbert comic and if that's not disqualifying i don't know what is um meanwhile the black lives matter co-founder i don't know how many founders or co-founders there were three can anybody tell me how many co-founders does black lives matter have but one of them and i don't other dames which is a clever thing they do they don't make the leaders famous quick tell me the name of one of

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famous quick tell me the name of one of the leaders of black lives matter uh i think there was a woman right you don't you don't you don't even know who it is and i think that's intentional but one of the black lives matter co-founders said that the looting that's been happening lately is reparations and you just you should see
somebody thought that telling me that i suck at cartoons would be a good thing to do here goodbye people who don't know that art is subjective um so what do you think is uh looting reparations would you agree with black lives matter that the looting is reparations i say yes yeah i would say the looting it was reparations and now we're done with the reparations because the reparations died with the looting

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reparations died with the looting so in a way but for different reasons i completely agree with the black lives matter co-founder the looting was your reparations so if there was anybody who wasn't looting but they also wanted some reparations it didn't work out for you this time and probably never because the looting i think in the minds of people who would have to decide that reparations was a good idea i.e white people and people who are well white people and anybody who is not black would be the ones who would have to be convinced because one assumes that the black community might be on board with this if it ever became serious the reparations part but other people would have to be convinced and what has happened in the past month or two well black lives matter went from a really good idea you know the idea that we should treat each other with the same respect i thought we already were frankly i didn't know it was a problem but if somebody says it

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was a problem but if somebody says it was a problem i i'm totally on board with the philosophy but the organization itself well doesn't look so good the black lives matter organization by focusing on the lowest priority which turned out to be based on the fake premise because now we know the michael brown thing was a justified shooting according to two separate investigations state and federal and believe me they were looking for a problem they were not looking to get this guy off nobody was looking for that but that's how it turned out turns out it was a justified shooting and
and and now we know of course even the george floyd thing he was so full of fentanyl that unfortunately he was going to die no matter what which doesn't absolve the cops but it clearly wasn't any kind of race related murder situation
so now that black lives matter is completely discredited in my opinion by becoming associated with looting

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by becoming associated with looting saying things like looting his reparations uh which i agree with because now we're done with reparations forever it's off the table and um i think also that by focusing on their smallest and at a problem that's not even real uh which is you know the police killing of black people it's not real in the sense that it's not worse than any other group and it and even if it were exactly what you thought it was and it was more of a problem than it was for other groups even if that were true which it isn't i think the part about stopping more often and and harassing is definitely true but you know we don't know what's that is that is that because of the neighborhood you're in you know does a black police officer harass a black suspect more than a white woman would i don't even know if there's any difference anyway even if you assume the worst about the whole policing situation it's still the smallest priority the biggest priority by far the one that changes everything

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by far the one that changes everything if you get it right is education and that means the the teachers unions are the source of ongoing um systemic racism so if the black community ever wanted to march against the
the teachers union and actually guess something good you know the ability to compete in schools and therefore improve if they ever wanted to do that the republicans would line up an outnumber right if the black community wanted to work on their biggest problem education because if you get that right you got your job you got you know basically everything is better if you're making money you're educated you've got a job things are working out for you so you can't make racism go away but you can certainly make yourself relatively immune to it as oprah has for example um anyway black lives matter completely discredited even though the idea is good all right

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is good all right um let's talk about herd immunity because i know you want to let's talk about that um i got a little more data here because the the optimistic hope is that the reason sweden has uh something close to zero deaths now from coronavirus ongoing deaths is because we assume they reached a herd immunity but if they did it would suggest that it's easy to get there and that maybe herd immunity is closer to 20 of the population not 60. now if that's true and maybe it's because of this so-called t-cell immunity meaning that if you if you had some exposure to other types of coronaviruses you might have a little residual immunity to this new one because it's got a lot in common and it might be enough for some people but
but i asked this question well are there other situations in which people pass that 20 percent and here are some examples and counter

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and here are some examples and counter examples now i'm before you jump to the conclusion say scott you can't make any decision based on that thing you said that's where i am too so nothing i tell you next should suggest that you could make a decision based on it but i'll give you some context so the diamond princess 19 of the people tested had chronovirus and so you say to yourself okay that's consistent with herd immunity being 20 percent-ish because they were all on this cruise ship together if it reached 19 and stopped maybe that's because we got it in time but maybe it's also because it was going to stop there anyway but what about the argentine cruise ship in which 59 had it and so we've got one with 19 born with 59 pretty different now the 59 is coincidentally right where we thought the top of herd immunity was

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the top of herd immunity was but again that doesn't mean anything it's one situation we don't know what happened after they knew they had it how they quarantined etc
etc but what if i'll just throw this out there what if people on cruise lines don't travel alone what if they're always packed together with their family and what if one of a family of four got the coronavirus but then they were quarantined with the three other members of their own family what happens to the three other members probably gonna get it because they're in this little room with you know whatever kind of ventilation they've got on cruise ships and if one of you has it i don't know your family's probably going to get it too so do we have a situation where you can't really tell because of the unique way that they handled quarantines i don't know so i would say you can't tell anything about that but i would add to the conversation that there is some notion that the higher your viral load

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higher your viral load the more likely you're going to catch it so being around a lot of iris more likely to get it than being around you know a normal amount and i would say that the how how much you're packed into a space and what kind of ventilation you have probably changes completely what it means to have heard levels so in other words you might be able to reach heard at 20 percent in sweden because people are kind of spaced out you know they yeah they have the option of spacing out whereas if they're all packed into a prison or or a cruise ship maybe you don't get to herd until you're at 60 because there's just so much viral load it's just all packed in there there's nothing you can do maybe so in other words so here's the hypothesis that is unproven that if we have these t-cell uh immunities meaning we haven't been specifically exposed to the virus but we've been exposed to

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to the virus but we've been exposed to other ones that gives us some immunity the thought is that there's some amount of viral load that would overcome whatever natural immunity you have so there's no such thing as just being having some immunity there's immunity at a certain level and you could overwhelm that with enough virus that's the hypothesis how about inmates we've got we've got one prison that had a
a nearly 70 percent were infected again maybe they're just all too close together not enough sanitation do you make anything of that i don't think you can a homeless shelter there was one at 24 another one at 36 percent let me ask you this uh do homeless people spend a lot of time in close proximity to each other not so much right the the homeless people i see are pretty much loners yeah i obviously they're homeless

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loners yeah i obviously they're homeless families but wouldn't you say that the homeless are uniquely able to stay away from other people in a weird way i mean if you looked at the homeless people in the street they're not interacting with each other so much are they you know i don't spend much time around that situation so i don't know but it wouldn't surprise me if the homeless just have a natural distancing thing built into their situation so they're down at that 24 and 36 percent tested in two different shelters so we've got another french aircraft carrier 60 it's pretty hard to get away from other people on an aircraft carrier right you're packed into these little bunking places but a us aircraft carrier had 17 percent again probably has to do with when they caught it you know how early they caught it probably doesn't tell you anything all right so those are some examples so what what we know the only thing we learned from that is that in these enclosed spaces

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that in these enclosed spaces be they a prison or or a cruise ship you could have an infection anywhere from 20 to 70 percent so so we know that but what we don't know is a big old country where you've got the option of spreading out if 20 or so could be the limit now if 20 herd immunity is not enough we don't know what's happening in sweden do we how do you explain sweden if in fact they didn't achieve herd immunity what is it if it's not that could it be vitamin d ah okay suppose because sweden has the unique quality that although they don't get enough sun to get the right kind of vitamin d they know that so it is normal to supplement so they have vitamin d like crazy in supplements fish oil supplements i guess so could it be that 20 percent of their

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so could it be that 20 percent of their community is weak enough for other reasons co-morbidities age whatever that they're weakened but as long as you're a normal healthy person with vitamin d maybe you just can't get it maybe something like that so vitamin d could still be part of our answer it's not it's not eliminated but it's not confirmed either and i wouldn't be surprised if it comes out that way now what did i tell you about how president trump's performance on the coronavirus would be compared by election day i made the following prediction that those countries that had gotten good control of the coronavirus early say your germany's and your new zealands would have recurring infections and a second wave and as long as we don't know what stops this thing as long as we don't know where herd immunity is and i'm not sure we're all going to be sweden

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we're all going to be sweden i predicted that those who did well would have a second wave it would make the president's performance look better because the other people would look worse and that all of those countries that people said hey look at this country why can't we be more like them and the answer will be their time is coming and it might happen before before election day
um somebody says hydroxychloroquine well i know i'm still a 30 chance that hydroxychloroquine is a game changer and and part of the reason is
i just feel like i know by now i can't believe we could get to this point having so much talk about it so many so many studies that we wouldn't just know by now and the fact that it's still up in the air and in fact a lot of people leaning against it i don't know by what percentage

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don't know by what percentage just makes me think it's not it couldn't possibly be as effective as the claims because it would just be so obvious by now but who knows but we do live in a world where the unusual can happen so i can't rule out anything um
apparently the word kamala translates to horrible in the finnish language so there there's a lot of foreshadowing in there
um all right so that's all i got for now and i will talk to you tomorrow