Episode 1073 Scott Adams: I’m Late. Grab Coffee.

Date: 2020-07-28 | Duration: 59:21

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• Those HCQ doctors, 14,000,000 views…video now banned

• Facebook decides what’s medically valid?

• Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding and misdirection

• Whiteboard: HCQ + Zinc + Azithromycin

• Democrat world view is HOAX driven

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hey everybody you caught me a little bit behind the times i've got to get my studio in shape here i'm printing off my notes closing my blinds getting into full coffee with scott adams mode a little late because i want to put together a little white situation here so i was doing that while you were getting ready to come on live and is this the best day ever we don't know yet but it might be it might be the best day ever good morning hey omar thanks for uh joining me and wouldn't you like to do a little thing we call the simultaneous up i know you would and all you need is a cupboard bug or a glass of tanker tails or stein a canteen jogger flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid i like coffee and join me now for the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous up and it happens

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simultaneous up and it happens now go
excuse me while i grab my notes thanks for waiting all right well i would say the biggest story of the day is those doctors i thought you all know what i'm talking about right so there was a i guess breitbart filmed a group of doctors who are pro-hydroxychloroquine and they were giving a little press conference outside somewhere and they were talking about what they believed were the obvious medical benefits of hydroxychloroquine for fighting uh coronavirus now of course they are not in the well i don't know if they're in the medical majority but maybe the the the degree to which they trust the hydroxychloroquine

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hydroxychloroquine might put them in the minority i think there are other doctors who would say well we don't know but might be worth a shot so let me give you my
my uh full analysis of the doctors now what makes the story interesting is that facebook banned it after it had i don't know 14 million views and then facebook banned it for giving the wrong information so it was bad medical information according to facebook i think today that twitter has banned it am i right about that or not i might be wrong about that i know that twitter was waiting but i saw a few clips posted this morning that were blank and i wasn't sure if that's twitter or where it was being pointed to that blanked it out but so we have two stories in one story number one is censorship is it censorship if a social platform takes incorrect

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social platform takes incorrect information off its platform wait wait you're going to say scott scott but it wasn't it wasn't wrong we're not talking about that yet so we'll talk about whether it was right or wrong separately the real question is does facebook get to decide
why does facebook get to decide what is correct medical information now i think what they do is that they look at the doctors and the fda and they look at the world health organization and the cdc and i imagine what they do is say well if these people are making claims that are outside of the experts the experts say they're wrong who are we to
to you know argue but we're in this weird situation in which the experts have con been consistently wrong and in the case of face masks intentionally lying think about that we're we're right in the middle of a situation where the experts have even

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situation where the experts have even admitted in terms of face masks they've admitted that they lied to us about a life and death medical situation now they had a good reason they had a good reason for doing it they were trying to you know maintain the supply so that the healthcare workers could get it and frankly that was a good reason if they'd given us the good reason i think maybe i could have acted appropriately and said ah i want to get that face mask maybe for myself but i will you know allow the n95s to be more available but other people might not so i don't even i don't even fault the experts for lying to the public in that case because they had a higher mission involved and you know you could argue it but that's not something i care about too much the point is if we know that your experts can lie to you we don't have to wonder they just told us
us they said yeah we had a good reason so we lied to you you don't have to wonder if it's a thing anymore

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if it's a thing anymore it's now a thing they will lie to you for a fact because they think there's some greater value there to somebody so here's the here's my take on the the medical part of it there's no right answer because you really can't run a country where you can promote bad information to people the way it's being done now i wouldn't object to facebook tagging the the arguments to it if they just said this has been tagged as a suspicious or non-confirmed medical opinion we're going to tag it so that you can't miss it and here's the counterpoint i'd be okay with that wouldn't you be okay with this is a controversial or unproven medical claim here's the counterpoint i that would be okay with me now it would still confuse some people because people would still buy into the less credible view but the

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buy into the less credible view but the less credible view isn't always wrong that's the problem the less credible view just might be the new
new what will be the new mainstream understanding later but it hasn't grown yet
yet so it's a real it's a real tough one but i would go with showing both sides that would be where i'd come out on this thing now let's talk about the credibility of the doctors um i would say none none if if you thought those doctors were credible
i'll tell you why i think they're not and then you can make your decision first of all how hard is it to get i don't know 20 doctors who are against the mainstream thinking not hard at all especially on social media i think they said that they had met on social media before getting together so having a few dozen doctors who disagree with anything is easy so what should you make of the fact that there were a few dozen

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of the fact that there were a few dozen doctors who have a different point of view the credibility you should put on that is nothing just nothing at all because you can get 20 people to say anything especially if they're on the internet so they can find themselves because you'd only need what you'd need one person in every other state in the union to get 25 people i mean it's a really low bar to get you know a dozen or 20 doctors to say the same thing that's different from the mainstream so the fact that they are doctors and they had doctor coats on and they have doctor experience you should count that as nothing nothing so in your mental calculation the weight you should give their experience in this specific case just nothing because you could get somebody to say anything secondly let's look at the quality of their arguments i'm just i'm just going to say the thing that everybody's thinking but since it sounds racist you have to

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but since it sounds racist you have to say it carefully because it's not racist the woman who is the
the the most featured in that was a doctor who was grew up and i guess she practiced in nigeria before she came here and i don't have to tell you that nigeria is a company that is a country that is famous for scams if you say nigerian email what's the first thing you think it's not racist because nigeria just happens to be a country there's nothing about nothing about being black in this story so if you're hearing it you're hearing the wrong thing it's just a country but it's a country that's famous by brand for scams so when your main doctor says you know i i practiced in nigeria what does your uncritical brain do it just goes click oh somebody from nigeria and again has nothing to do with ethnicity it's the country the country is simply famous for scams

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the country is simply famous for scams now that doesn't mean that this doctor is therefore not credible it just means that's how it feels right so i'm going to separate the things which are logical and you can count on from the things that you're just going to feel and that's in the category of things well i'm feeling like there's some lack of credibility but it's not fair because it's not as if all doctors coming out of nigeria have something in common they don't they don't but it feels that way
way so that's the first thing that works against them but it has nothing to do with whether they're right or wrong the here's the part that really got to me
me so the same woman the the doctor whose name i can't remember said that she studied she had treated 350 patients given them all hydroxychloroquine with or without the other combo i'm not sure and claims that none of them have died so nobody and of 350 people

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so nobody and of 350 people who came in to her for treatment none of them not one person in a 350 died so that's credible right that's pretty good information that's somebody who's really living it and doing it and working with real people and if 350 of them came in with this and none of them died that's pretty useful right i mean that tells you something does it no no it doesn't tell you anything you should have learned exactly zero from that information number one is it true is it true you don't know do you know that she treated 350 patients with covet you don't know that you might know you might know that she had 350 patients who came in with some kind of a symptom that she thought you know i don't know the the tests take a long time they're not available i'll just give you some hydroxychloroquine and i'll if you don't die i'm going to

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and i'll if you don't die i'm going to count you as one of my cures is that what happened i don't know you don't either we have no idea what happened we don't know if they were correctly identified or not how about this and i'm just going to throw this out there would she know if one percent of her 350 people had died would she know i don't know maybe not i don't know if she'd know or not do doctors track each of their patients so that they could tell you that three weeks later they they died under somebody else's care i don't know were these all her own patients or are they people who just needed care and paid for it in cash does she really know what happened to her people don't know next how hard how unusual would it be if no people died out of 350. i don't know that it's that unusual because here's what i'm thinking

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because here's what i'm thinking if you have severe covet symptoms where do you go do you go to your general practitioner or do you go to the emergency room because if the only people that this doctor sees are the people who had such mild symptoms they weren't even quite sure if they were sick isn't that the group that gets better anyway that's the group that just gets better on their own if all the people who really felt like there was something going on it was kind of advanced to the point where they couldn't breathe well or they had pretty bad symptoms they might go to the hospital first so it's not clear that what she's seeing is a broad sample but rather the people who have self-selected for mild symptoms if they have self-selected for mild symptoms and she gives them the mild symptom treatment and every single one of them avoids hospitalization what have you learned nothing i don't think you've learned anything

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i don't think you've learned anything statistically you've learned that it's maybe something you could look at that's definitely enough to say well we should study this if what you took away from it is oh we should look into this it's worth putting some money into a rigorous study yes
yes but if you're saying well we have the answer now no that's not even close to being credible all right um let's see and so there's the main thing now
now i have to tell you about this conversation that i just had online with uh there's a doctor that you might be familiar with dr eric feigl ding with a um what do you call a hyphen feigl ding is his last name and he's an epidemiologist and health economist senior fellow at harvard 16 years of public health at harvard he works on the covet task force steering committee in the coved updates and analyses so it's somebody

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updates and analyses so it's somebody who
who with a harvard degree lots of experience and he works in this field so that's incredible wouldn't you say a very credible guy but i tweeted at him and then then we had some exchanges i won't go into the details but um i gave him some advice and the advice is not medical advice obviously rather i gave him communication advice and it it took an interesting turn and here was my point that the people who believe hydroxychloroquine has potential they generally believe that his potential is limited to early use as opposed to i'm already in the hospital and i'm in bad shape and there's a reason for that a very specific reason which that by the time you get in the hospital your medical condition has changed to this cyclotine storm or whatever i don't know what i'm talking about but the point of it is that the covent progression is two different phases the first one

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is two different phases the first one where the virus is growing which is where people think the hydroxychloroquine with the other two drugs might be useful and then there's a part where it turns into a monster of a problem that's almost a different problem people do not believe largely that it works in that situation where you're near death that has been tested and tested a number of times now in trials that look like they would pick it up if it did work and show that it didn't so not only did they use too much of a dose on the people who were hospitalized a dose that we would know would have some side effects or expect but it was too late it was the wrong use in the wrong situation and in some cases they didn't use the the three drugs so i pointed out to dr eric feiglding that when he responds to people saying that hydroxyl chloroquine might be useful

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chloroquine might be useful that when he responds to them we're showing studies of the wrong thing it makes him look less credible not more credible in other words it looks like somebody who's trying to scam you
you as opposed to someone who's trying to help you let me be very careful in my wording here i'm not making an accusation that this doctor or any doctor is trying to scam you
you it's a communication point if if i say to you i think hydroxychloric works for an outpatient and you as the doctor professional say no it doesn't because we tested it on a completely different set of patients with a different situation who were near death and had a different medical problem and it didn't work for them does your credibility go up or does it go down what goes down right because because because what i hear is how come you're not talking about the thing i'm talking about why are you giving me studies about the wrong thing

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studies about the wrong thing so i mentioned this to the doctor and he accused me of cherry picking which was essentially correct is his accusation because i did cherry pick out of a number of studies that he had in his thread so i had picked one to point out why do we keep looking at the wrong thing and he said but you're also not looking at the other ones i showed that were outpatient one of them was an 800 person outpatient study and then it goes to this bringing in the white board
kind of turns into this why are you looking at only the hospitalized patients oh okay if if that doesn't tell you the right thing we don't have to look at them anymore but look at my studies of outpatient that's what you wanted right you wanted to see some outpatient stuff not hospitalist stuff so look at my study of hydroxychloroquine being used alone to which i say no that's not it either

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i want to see and then and then the next thing goes to is hydroxychloroquine with one of the two things either zinc or azithromycin you've seen the doctors say that they think it's one or the other or both that might be the key ingredient so i don't care about a study that only has one so what happened when i pointed out to the doctor eric feigl ding i pointed out to him that the only three things that would tell us whether hydroxychloroquine in combination works for outpatient would be a study that studied it there's no study studying the only thing that people wonder about right the people who think hydroxychloroquine might work and i haven't given you my opinion on this yet so hold on for that but the people who think it might work are very specific no we didn't say it would work on the near-death people no we didn't say it would work alone no we didn't say that we know which one of the two things is

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we know which one of the two things is the magic some people do but they shouldn't we said the three of them together give and early can you tell us if that works and you know what the answer is you can't so this is the dr feigl ding's response was when i pointed out that the very study that we we would like to either debunk or confirm this assumption doesn't exist he didn't say it does exist because it doesn't rather he pointed out how difficult it is to do studies and he pointed out that this would be an exceptionally hard study because there would be three drugs involved and you'd have to follow them for a while they're expensive it's something like 50 he mentioned there's something like 50 000
000 per person studied you would need thousands of them you'd want to do it fast it's really hard
and then he mentioned that i don't quite understand the the field which is true of course

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the the field which is true of course now what does this make you feel like if your proposition is this the hydroxychloroquine with these two drugs might be good for outpatient only what happens when somebody shows you the wrong study and you say that's the wrong study and they show you another wrong study you say that's the wrong study so they show you another wrong study and you say that's the wrong study because this isn't really hard to understand give me the three things for outpatient only that's it that's all i want and then once these three types of studies which are the wrong study have been debunked as being useful in this conversation it turns into it's hard to study things well isn't that a reason to use it it's hard to study is the reason to prescribe it because it's hard to study and the upside benefit would be if it worked and i'm not saying it does

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it does if it worked it would be incredible right it would be incredible so given that the risks at the very small dosage that these doctors on this banned video we're talking about they're talking about a pill or two every week something like that i mean a really low dosage as a prophylactic and again it hasn't been studied as a prophylactic in a way that shows it works so i have to ask you what is your impression of somebody who would take you through the argument in this direction by only misdirection but so my conversation with doctors who are anti-hydroxychloroquine and others always follows the misdirection path you can't really get them to talk about the thing that you need to talk about they want to talk about other stuff why is that now uh here's how i left

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now uh here's how i left my conversation with dr feigelden i said that i obviously i agree that would be hard to do the studies i'm just pointing out that they don't exist and therefore we can't make a conclusion about something that hasn't been studied uh somebody says there's a lot of rumors about dr fauci having once been in favor of hydrox chloroquine for coronaviruses in general um but i haven't looked into that to know if that's true or not and then some people are asking whether fauci himself is on hydroxychloroquine which would be a real interesting question we'll never find that out i don't think but it is an interesting question um here's what i would settle for if we can't have a study and i want you to see how much trouble this will get me into okay so i'm going to say something very unscientific and all of you should be smart enough to know what's wrong with it all right if you can't tell what's wrong with it you haven't been paying

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with it you haven't been paying attention here is what would make me happy tell me how many people have gotten the three drugs not just hydroxychloroquine but all three the zinc and the azithromycin two how many people got them as outpatients and then later died because i'll bet we could find that out could we find that anybody has ever died taking these three drugs early like ever has anybody ever died do you know the answer that i don't because these doctors yesterday in this band video were claiming that it's they even used the word cure which is i think why they got banned but don't you think that we could without doing a formal study could we not at least know that one piece of data is that is that discoverable without without resort to uh you know formal study if we have the death

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formal study if we have the death certificate do we also know how soon before the death which would tell us if they got it early enough do we know how soon before the death they had all three drugs in their system you know it would it be on the records because if you told me scott we've looked and we haven't found anybody who's ever died if they got this prior to hospitalization and they took all three what if it's zero right now if you had if you had to make me bet i would bet it's not zero i would bet you know at least people who had comorbidities would die maybe there are plenty there could be hundreds of thousands i don't know but wouldn't you like to know if hundreds of thousands of people who took the three drugs in combination early as outpatient wouldn't you like to know if even one of them died even one you don't know that do you

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even one you don't know that do you tell me how many died and let me decide if that matters to me so let's say for example that we could find that information or we could find it at least statistically from let's say one hospital but somebody says yes fda did a study no they didn't no they didn't but here's the thing maybe just one's hospital if they could study just their patients if there were enough of them and that tell us did even one die with these three drugs in them and if so was there anything comorbidity-wise that we should know about that person but um here's my bottom line it is obvious that there's either by intention or by mistake we are being misled on how to look at this which is different from me saying oh this is a great drug you should all be taking it how the hell would i know i'm not a doctor don't take my medical advice

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doctor don't take my medical advice i'm just saying that the way this is being presented to us is as a fraud would present it which is not to say that the people involved are frauds it's just saying that the way it's being presented is the way you would present it
it if you were trying to defraud somebody it would look exactly like this so if you're in a situation that looks exactly like a fraud doesn't mean it is this time could be that everybody's telling you the truth it just doesn't feel like it if i'm being honest it doesn't feel like it all right um i spend most of my time looking at that thing so here's some other things going on in the world i told you that the biggest factor in
in trump's re-election would be something completely outside his control which is what happens to other countries who got a handle on coronavirus early my assumption has been that since there is no

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is no there's no workable vaccine yet and nobody's really that close to herd immunity i doubt anyway i don't know that but i don't think herd immunity is too close my assumption was that between now and election day the countries that have done such a good job because they're so smarter and their leaders are so better and they're way better than me and old orange man bad that they would instead of them doing a good job and then just taking it to the finish line it seemed almost guaranteed from what we know about the virus it seems almost guaranteed that the other countries are going to have the same experience we did which is you get a handle on it then you try to loosen up then you have to get a handle on it again then you try to loosen up so we're already seeing the first headline of this in cnn quote from cnn this morning even countries that got coronavirus under control are now struggling that's deeply concerning for the rest of the world that sentence says trump gets reelected

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that sentence says trump gets reelected 100 percent i'll read it again just listen to the sentence and then even try to imagine that trump would not get a reelected here's a sentence even countries that got coronavirus under control are now struggling that's the election that's it that's the whole election right there because if the other countries with all their wisdom and not burdened by an orange man bad if they have some kind of average experience and we're somewhere in the average all it's going to show you is that leadership didn't matter that's all it's going to show you leadership didn't really matter and i think that's where we're going to be
be now here's another thing that was predictable yet funny the the black people in portland were protesting are feeling there's a little lack of clarity about what the protests are about these days because apparently the white people who have completely taken over the black

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have completely taken over the black lives matter protest you know i swear i can say this because of a white person do white people ruin everything like is there any exception if black people get anything going that's good isn't there going to be some white person that comes in and just freaking ruins it i gotta say if there's one complaint that black people make all the time that i that i just you know i just nod my head like oh yep you're right on that one i might argue about some other stuff but now anytime black people do something good white people will come in and ruin it it's so consistent
and it looks like that's what's happening with the protest i think if the protest had stayed with you know the george floyd thing it stayed a black people trying to make the world better white people helping them out you know supportively that could have been a good thing but it looks like antifa just hollowed them out and you and he was using them as a you know a disguise for whatever they're

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you know a disguise for whatever they're trying to do to take over the country i guess so i believe that we could we could predict at this point that the white and black protesters who believed they were on the same side are soon discovering they are not so much on the same side anymore somebody somebody's asking me in the comments will you take the vaccine well there's not the vaccine there are vaccines i saw a clip in which bill gates was being asked about i guess one of the first vaccines i figure which one maybe moderna but that it has a pretty pretty hard side effects because the dosage is pretty high now if the first vaccine that's available has known side effects meaning you're definitely going to get a side effect and it's ugly i might wait i might wait so i don't have to answer your question i would need to know a little bit more

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little bit more about the first one that's available i wouldn't rule out taking it i wouldn't rule it out but i'm not 100 there yet i'd need to know a little bit more if it's knowable now the other thing that's going on with the protest slash looting slash violence is the the question of whether it's violent or non-violent now you've seen probably by now the the videos of uh uh jerry nadler being asked if the protests are violent and he says they're not and then they've cleverly put the scenes of all the fires and the protest stuff in the background now i don't know that it's useful to argue about whether they're violent or non-violent because it's clearly mostly non-violent people with a core of violent people and everybody agrees with that so whether you want to call that non-violent or call it violent is really

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non-violent or call it violent is really just the word you're putting on it it's not really helping anybody's understanding but clearly there are people trying to overthrow the country and they say that directly i don't think there are many of them and i'm not terribly worried that they will succeed in overthrowing the country i do think that some of these cities have very weak mayors and that they just don't have a solution for what you do about the federal courthouse etc but um the most amazing thing that's happening about all this uh if if we could maybe take a moment to uh to show appreciation for how unviolent the police and dhs have been because i don't know if i would have the same level of restraint as the police that we're seeing they are really really restrained you know of course you're going to see the video of somebody you think went a little too far but as a rule

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rule the the law enforcement in every form that's handling these things they're doing a really good job like like an a plus job in my opinion now of course you'll have your incidents individual incidents that are imperfect but overall am i wrong overall i would say that the that the law enforcement including dhs are not just doing a good job i mean it looks like they're doing really good job like really good job like is one of the best jobs you've ever seen anybody do a job and here's why i say that they have limited the damage now to certain blocks so that's good so you know it's not growing it's it's now re constrained they did it without causing revolution in other words it would have been easy to overreact a number of them are being blinded intentionally blinded by lasers if somebody intentionally blinds you

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if somebody intentionally blinds you um or let's say let's say somebody intentionally blinds your partner right next to you and you see where i came from in my opinion you should be able to shoot to kill because a laser attack on somebody's eyes maybe not legally is is a lethal force i don't know how you define that but trying to blind somebody i can i can get where you say it's not technically lethal but in my opinion it should be the death sentence blinding somebody with a laser should be the death sentence if you did it intentionally um so the restraint of all these people is just incredible they're being hit in the heads with with objects have you seen the amount of solid objects that are flying toward them and they they just are taking it it's amazing amazing and you know you don't take it you don't take a moment to kind of put yourself in the heads of these other people and say how hard was this remember they in portland it's been 60

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remember they in portland it's been 60 days of this how many of those police officers have been out there for much of that entire 60-day period having stuff thrown at them do you know how much ptsd you would have if you went out every night and solid objects were whizzing past your head and you're watching your your co-workers go down blinded you know concussions and every day you go out there and do that again and nobody's asking you to fight back they're asking you to take it incredible incredible
so a little uh little applause for the law enforcement people now of course as you know the the bad protesters are trying to get some violence going because that will work for their cause but the longer the law enforcement people can hold the the line the longer that doesn't work and you know you can maybe decrease their energy over time

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maybe decrease their energy over time it hasn't happened as quickly as i hoped but
but but uh i think it's happening all right somebody says serious bodily injury is typically enough for lethal self-defense but you know that's generally true but serious bodily injury is usually in the context of it could have killed you right if if somebody stabs you and you didn't die you know obviously that would be a case where you could shoot them if they were trying to stab you or already had but that's the case where you could have died in the case of the laser there really isn't any chance you could die it is just grievous bodily injury so it's weird in that sense you know you wouldn't bleed out per se so i don't know what the law would say about that uh no reports on daytime troop relief yeah we don't know too much about how often they're being relieved but i don't think you could assume that any of them are going to be mentally

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them are going to be mentally the same after this is over how many days could you be outdoors at night with people throwing hard objects at you and you only have to be looking in the wrong direction to be basically have your braids scrambled it's pretty bad all right um
let's uh let's brain brainstorm about what it would take for trump to get reelected you ready
what would it take for trump to get reelected well i think the economy uh probably is not going to be a full v because if things don't reopen there won't be enough new jobs so i think you're going to see the economy improved but stalled in terms of jobs i think you're going to see the republicans being a little cheap on the relief package for people i think that will hurt them but maybe not with the people who are necessarily going to vote so it might not hurt them that much

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oh the a.g bar hearing is starting pretty soon and that's going to be amazing so here's what i think trump should do to improve his chances number one avoid an obvious mistake right because at the moment i think he's on a glide path to victory because until uh until joe biden has a vice president there isn't going to be much of a target there and whoever he picks as vice president will probably hurt him that's the funny part about it no matter who he picks it's going to hurt him because it's going to be a new person who has a new set of targets like it's somebody who did something wrong some something that even democrats don't like it'll be there trust me whoever he picks so
so going after biden is kind of a hard challenge for trump because biden does not seem up to the task and it feels like you're beating a baby harp seal it doesn't feel like a fair fight there's something about it that just doesn't feel right because biden is so degraded

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so degraded if that changes then maybe trump could go harder at him but as long as he's looking feeble and hiding in his basement trump can't do what trump does best which is go hard against somebody you hate one of the best things that trump had going for him when he ran against hillary clinton was hillary clinton because no matter how excited you were about fighting voting for trump weren't you also a little bit excited about voting against hillary that was a twofer you could get trump but you could also hurt hillary if he didn't like hillary but there are any i don't think i've heard i can honestly say i've heard zero people searching my memory i've heard zero republicans say that they want to vote against biden meaning that there's something wrong with him in particular now of course some people don't want his mental situation in the job and some people don't want a democrat but you don't hear the talk like you heard about hillary

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heard about hillary hillary clinton was hated hated individually now some are going to say it's because she was a woman i don't think so i don't think that's why i think there's some personalities that attract hate the way that trump attracts hate from the left it's just it's just the same thing it's not a gender thing um but biden doesn't do that biden does not make us hate him i actually kind of like biden could could i hang out with biden and have a good time probably probably even people on the other side say this all the time they say he's a good man so that really takes the biggest club away from trump which is he would love to be just pounding on biden every day and having his audience love it because it's like ah did you see what he did to biden today but it doesn't feel as good as when he would go after hillary when you heard crooked hillary it made you happy because you knew it made her

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you happy because you knew it made her sad
sad right there was a little bit of shot and freud in there if you hear the president say something that would be devastating for biden to hear let's say something about his mental decline that's got to hurt it's got to hurt it doesn't feel as good does it so he needs a vice president so there's a so there's a stronger target and it will give trump something to work with so maybe that'll make a difference i think as i said this coronavirus if it gets in if it gets out of control in other countries it will make trump look better and that will matter a lot and then you know they're all these wild cards what if what if it turned out that hydroxychloroquine actually works what if it does you know i'll give you my current estimate based on what we know at the moment 50 chance sort of a 50 50 that it would make some difference um because as i say the studies are not conclusive but neither are they dismissive um so

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but neither are they dismissive um so i think trump also has the opportunity to do a bunch of things that are let's say counter factual to the rumors about him so here are some things and these are really important and they're in the category of the dog not barking so these are the things he's not doing
that are important in the ones that he's doing so one of the things he's doing that's important is that he can do things like the executive orders for lowering drug costs so trump can go into elections saying i just did these executive orders and i lowered your drug costs now let's say he succeeds i don't know if he will but it looks like it's a good shot if he succeeds he's going to be going into the election with health care success he should claim also the telehealth across state lines and he should take some accomplishments now biden of course will be fighting with his own team who says anything short of universal healthcare single-payer is not good enough so biden

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single-payer is not good enough so biden won't even have an argument that his own side completely likes at the same time the trump is going to say well you guys keep arguing i just lowered your drug costs it's going to be a pretty strong argument so he should look good on health care he's going to look good on immigration because people are thinking about it differently now in coronavirus times i think that the george floyd stuff has discredited very much i think it discredited the people trying to discredit president trump meaning that um that the black lives matter people by teaming up with marxists by teaming up with antifa have discredited that whole thing and and
and as we watch the cities on fire at least small parts of things on fire it just doesn't feel good doesn't look right and it makes trump look stronger so every day that there's a new protest trump gets stronger in the public because they like law and order now trump has been weak with the law and

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now trump has been weak with the law and order i'm sorry he's a week with the i guess the suburban moms what is it that suburban moms like more than law and order not many things so the group that will be most concerned about this lack of law and order should be the very group that he wants to attract i would be surprised if the president doesn't take advantage of packaging up all the hoaxes and trying to convince democrats that their view of the world is hoax determined in other words he talks about the the russia collusion hoax a lot but i think it's powerful when you uh when you put them together so he could say look you believe the russia collusion hoax you believe it's hard for him to say this because it would cause more trouble but i can say it
it you believe the fine people hoax you believe the ingesting disinfectants hoax and you can go right down the line

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down the line of all the hoaxes and i think that the more it's pointed out how many hoaxes have defined the democrat point of view that you can at least give them some uncertainty about their news sources which might help a little bit so i think you'll be good enough on the economy compared to biden good enough on health care compared to biden who won't have a good coherent plan that everybody likes i think you'll be good enough on race weirdly because i think all this the race riot stuff backfired
and i think that whenever biden gets a vice president he will be weakened by it because he'll be somebody who doesn't like that vice president on his own team so and everybody will think the vice president is going to be the president anyway so that won't matter um
your comments are all over the board a bong is a stoner's best friend

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bong is a stoner's best friend okay that totally goes into our topic
uh i don't bet on it hide your club i'm just looking at your comments the hydro hydrochloric hydrochloroquine hoax will bust this baby wide open i don't think that we're going to know if hydroxychloroquine works or doesn't by election day do you
i think the president might do something shocking on immigration maybe more shocking than he's done
to just to get his base fired up that might happen yeah you can actually hear my dog snoring can't you the red pill about the media i don't know if people are ready to understand that the thing they thought there was the news is not the news i've had this conversation with one of my smartest and most well

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with one of my smartest and most well informed friends who buys him to completely the new york times cnn npr view of the world and i tried to i tried to explain to him that he's living in the past a past when those news sources could be trusted to give you something closer to an objective view of the world but he doesn't understand that we don't live in that world anymore and that the news is literally just propaganda at this point and and he's believing the propaganda just the way he believed the news back when it was something like news somebody says my liberal boyfriend is coming around to the hoaxes you know the hoaxes are the most i think the hoaxes are the most um brittle part of the of the left's bubble once you point out how many hoaxes have informed their entire world view

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have informed their entire world view it's got to start to chip away a little bit just a little bit
oh this can't be true somebody's saying in the comments then nadler was in a car accident and so the bar hearing is delayed is that true can somebody confirm that because that would be the weirdest thing in the world
set up the border catapults be nice all right hearing is delayed nadler's involved in a car accident well i guess we'll have to find out about that
tariffs against china for climate justice well you know i think the china situation is also incredibly good for trump right now
now because i i can't think of a better contrast if you looked at you've got joe biden who you think is a little too close to china right at the same time that china has gone from uh friendly adversary if i could say that a frenemy if you will

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that a frenemy if you will somebody that we want to do business with to somebody that we can't trust whatsoever and are going to try to do less business with and are intentionally or entering a cold war with i think the country's mood either is or will be so anti-china partly because the coronavirus so anti-china that the anti-china candidate is going to look like the right choice and that's trump now when i say anti-china it's the best possible situation because trump was so pro-she and pro-trade deal so in a sense trump became nixon goes to china if you will sort of the reverse of that so nixon you know the famous nixon went to china's story he was the hardest voice against china so if he could go and be their friends that meant it was okay because he was the hardest voice against them so his team would say all right all

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so his team would say all right all right if you're if you're okay with them i guess we can at least talk to them trump did the opposite trump went in with the i'll be your friend i'll show you full respect we can both get rich this will be great let's work together hand in hand and then it didn't work so trump has showed us that the nixon goes to china doesn't work he proved it he proved it by giving them every benefit of the doubt working with them legitimately seriously trying to really make something work and then finding out it doesn't and that they were wildly stealing our intellectual property even right now that's why the houston consulate got closed the chinese consulate because they had stolen so much intellectual property allegedly so trump is just a hundred percent right on china it looks like it he was right to try it the way he did and he was right to find out for sure if

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and he was right to find out for sure if that could work or not and he does now now he found out we would not have gotten that with biden so he's better on china i think he's he's basically he's better on everything except climate change and he has a kill shot for climate change if he uses it do you know what the kill shot for climate change is that even biden is in favor of nuclear energy that's pretty much the whole argument trump will be running against a candidate who is also in favor of nuclear energy that's it that's the whole argument right there you could take climate change right off the right off the table um
somebody says it's easier to accept a lie than to accept you or lied to yeah that is that's another way to explain cognitive dissonance i suppose
somebody says in the comments no one can say that trump did not give she every opportunity to salvage the

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she every opportunity to salvage the situation that's exactly right and he did that really really well he really gave china every opportunity to be a you know a credible good player and they did not take it at least that's the version we hear in america who knows if that's accurate
here's somebody in the comments i have to block here so cynthia in the comments says scott has had three months of reporting the hydroxychloroquine works and today is backpedaling on it now i'm going to block you because i block anybody who misrepresents my opinion in public all right so that so i have only ever said that there is a percentage chance that hydroxychloroquine is a game changer and i've raised that from 30 to 50 to 70 depending on the news as it trickled down so my view is that i don't know

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down so my view is that i don't know but i know it's not been studied so that's my view and if it's not been studied then you could use your risk management judgment which doctors are
are to prescribe it or not so you have grossly mischaracterized my opinion of saying that i've reported that it works because i've never once done that and now you are consigned to the blockbin of history um somebody says legalize cannabis and i'll vote for trump well of course legalizing it at the federal level would not be enough but if i were trump i would release every person on a federal marijuana charge i would just do that between now and election day because there's no way that's wrong it just isn't now a lot of those marijuana charges might be things that were pled down from more serious charges so that might be a little little sticking point there but i don't even understand why trump is not

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i don't even understand why trump is not active in taking marijuana off the debate because it's just free money if if he doesn't do it probably the democrats will or have i think that's in their platform
yeah there's a weird story about seeds being sent from china with no packaging as if maybe if we planted those seeds something bad would happen i don't know if we know what those seeds are yet
somebody says will i be blocked for not caring about your opinion sure i'll block you for not caring about my opinion
sometimes you can get your way that easily
you always said 50 or less pretty consistently yeah how many debates will actually be held i would say zero i don't think there will be any debates
um why did china not take the opportunity i believe but i'm not an expert my understanding is that china doesn't see the world

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is that china doesn't see the world as a win-win scenario meaning that in a deal you know the typical western idea of a good deal is where you both win i win and you win what i'm told and i'm not i'm not an expert here so don't take it from me is that the current chinese government point of view is that the chinese have to eventually dominate the world and that it's sort of more of a hitlerian kind of situation so why didn't hitler make a good deal with neville chamberlain because it was never the point the you know any deal that hillary made was only just a military technique to you know to put your guard down it appears and that's what's being reported i'm not in anybody's head and i'm not an expert in china so you shouldn't take my word for any of this but the reporting is that china wants to dominate sees its future that way and doesn't have any interest in a deal that isn't just good for them

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in a deal that isn't just good for them and bad for us so that's the proposition
what's my guess on the seeds my guess on the seeds is it's some kind of a crazy person situation or marketing i think the odds of the seeds being some kind of a terrorist attack are low but not zero one excuse to cancel the debates the usual just no crowds i think that trump would have been really weakened uh if he had gone ahead and held his convention holding the convention would have been a huge mistake under the current uptick um yeah zero sum is the phrase i should have used for for china's opinion they they think that some for somebody to win somebody has to lose yes my my nose operation is still scheduled for tomorrow so with any luck you will not hear my whistling sinuses and bad conditions but we'll see

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and bad conditions but we'll see so i should tell you that i don't know i might do a periscope before i head off for surgery i haven't decided yet
your comments are funny those of you are listening to this on podcast i'm sorry uh all right thank you and uh i will see you tomorrow maybe and the day after well i don't know about the day after i may not be able to wake up if you don't see me on periscope for two days might be longer i'll at least tweet out my status but you should assume that i'm doing well okay good and i'll talk to you as soon as i can