Episode 1070 Scott Adams: Protests, Fake News Determining Elections, Sandmann Puts Fake News 2 Sleep

Date: 2020-07-25 | Duration: 1:02:05

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  • President Trump’s Executive Orders slash medication cost

  • Can Trump supporter victims sue media pushing HOAXES?

  • Senator Cotton’s anti-1619 Project bill

  • 5G speeds will change civilization

  • Did China consulate support/fund BLM and Antifa?

  • The Queen of Dragons and her eunuch army

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hey everybody come on in it's time for another exciting and amazing episode of coffee with scott adams yep it's just about the best thing you've ever seen in your life what is happening my security camera's going off there's a mouse outside i literally picked up a mouse on my security camera that's good security
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go ah oh let's talk about all the things happening today
so yesterday trump signed uh for are they executive orders i guess then they're all designed to lower uh pharmaceutical costs in this country now there are a few interesting things about this aside from the fact that wouldn't it be good to have lower pharmaceutical costs number one interesting thing why wasn't this done before even the president says should have been done long ago well he's been president for three years so long ago also includes the current presidency and so the question is why wasn't it done before now let me i don't know the details of the executive orders but one of them is to have most favored

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but one of them is to have most favored nation status which is fairly common in contracts common enough that you know people know it exists and the idea is that uh we can't be charged more in this country than some other country so we don't want to be the ones who are subsidizing other countries by paying high costs so that some other country could have low cost that's pretty basic contract stuff but the government had not been involved rather these were you know private companies doing private things so why is it that now the president can make this kind of a change which seems to comply to all common sense and on the surface it looks like just a smart thing to do why'd it take so long same with buying from canada apparently we'll have the option now of getting some meds from canada where the prices are lower which is similar to the most favored nations thing and then a few other

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nations thing and then a few other things that do the same thing and here's what i think it is but i need to see some reporting on this by smarter people yeah you're saying in the comments uh where i was going could you tell i was teasing for the answer because i think the answer is that the supreme court has upheld enough executive orders from the past and i think it was with daca and maybe obamacare so that's the part of murky on so somebody can fill me in on the supreme court part of it but i think what's happened is that trump has discovered he has more power as a president than anybody would have imagined meaning that the supreme court has now set a standard that says that trump can do this now because he's doing this that's about the same size of this-ness of other things that the supreme court has allowed and so it gave him room to

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has allowed and so it gave him room to operate that didn't exist before so here's the fun part the supreme court by voting against the president's wishes a few times has turned him into the dictator that nobody wanted
but as long as he's a benevolent dictator it's going to be okay and the same with obama right obama did some big executive orders but as long as society looked at them and said yeah well your intention was good and a lot of people do like it not everybody agrees but it's not like the worst thing in the world the supreme court can let that stand so uh you can you can never underestimate no you can never overestimate i always say it wrong i tweeted that wrong this morning um there's there's a big impact of the uh what do you call it the the accidental consequences

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accidental consequences of anything and the accidental consequences of the president losing a few supreme court battles is that he can lower our health care costs yeah you could never underestimate thank you
you that's what i should say so the the accidental consequences the unintended consequences were to give the president more power and then he took his power and he solved one of society's biggest problems with it thank you for unintended yes um now who saw that coming who who on their prediction card said president will lose important supreme court cases and that will allow him to lower our drug costs what and you're going to see a lot of exciting things i think happening as we get closer to election day because the president has this one gigantic advantage and it's enormous which is the president

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and it's enormous which is the president can do things whereas joe biden can't do things so the president doesn't have to just talk about lowering drug costs he can just do it and apparently he's well on his way to doing it we'll see if this stuff holds but i'll bet it will um you all had a good laugh or i think celebrated silently when uh covington kid nick sandman won his his suit well he got he had a kind of settlement which is different from winning although it's a kind of winning and so this is his second win in a row he won he got a settlement i guess from cnn and he got a settlement of unnamed amount from washington post that he's got a few more outlets to sue and the basic idea here is that the the news the fake news painted him as the bad guy when in fact he was just standing there and he was sort of the one that was approached not

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sort of the one that was approached not the one who was causing trouble so his reputation got destroyed by this sufficiently that a court or at least you know it looked like it was it was something he could win sufficiently that the other side decided to sell so that's how bad it was so this raises an interesting question and it goes like this could somebody who had lost their job or had been attacked let's say physically attacked and i guess there were a few of them even last night at the protesters at the protest if if people who are trump supporters are physically attacked or
or fired for being trump supporters here's the question i ask the legal experts could those people sue the fake news for the fine people hoax and for the you know the covington kid hoax and the russia collusion hoax in other words could you say the reason

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in other words could you say the reason i lost my job for being a trump supporter is because the fake news has run enough hoaxes that i'm demonized just for being a supporter i lost my job could they make the case that the media by knowingly running hoaxes and of course the fine people hoax is the classic one where you know they know the real answer because it's in the transcript it's not really an interpretation problem it's right there you just read it
it so could you win a case against the same fake news companies if you had been abused in any way for being a trump supporter because i i think it's a pretty solid line from from there speaking of which uh rasmussen uh who does polling which you rarely will hear mentioned on the news apparently rasmussen is banned from being mentioned on the news did you know that and i think

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the news did you know that and i think it's banned on both on both the left and the right now they claim and i think there's evidence to support it to be the most accurate polling company in the country for political stuff now is that true is that true i think so i think they're the most accurate and they can't be mentioned so there must be a counter argument to that but i don't know what it is but one of the things that rasmussen tweeted this morning is that if you look at what people believed during the 2018 midterm elections you'd find that 30 just before the vote for the midterms in 2018 30 of the country believed the russia collusion hoax 30 of the country believed it and that includes republicans now if 30 percent of your country believe the fake news that that russia was controlling the president

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president what would you expect the midterm to look like you'd expect it to look like it did people would vote in democrats because they think the president is owned by russia now think about how much that changed the world because because it probably flipped the house and i haven't even added the second part if the only thing that happened was the russia collusion hoax which you had to know that the media pushing it had some suspicion it wasn't true or no it wasn't true but they pushed it anyway what about the fine people hoax i would say that the fine people hoax was believed by maybe 70 of the country when it first came out wouldn't you say i would guess that 70 percent of the country because that includes a lot of republicans believed the fine people hoax now that's quite that's changed quite a bit i tweeted this morning because i you know i periodically tweet that it's a hoax

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hoax and a phd doctor type guy who wrote a anti-trump book weighed in to say it's not a hoax darth dilbert see that's the funny part because my critics call me dilbert but he called me darth dilbert so that's like really really funny very clever and he was not aware according to his tweet that it was a hoax and i thought to myself how could you be an educated person in the united states and think that the fine people hoax was real now in 2020 i totally get why people believed in in 2018 because it was fresh and it was being misreported but after two years of unraveling this thing you'd think most people would know it's a hoax by now but think of those those two hoaxes the russia collusion hoax and then i would call it the tentpole race hoax because everything else about

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race hoax because everything else about trump would seem different if you took away that that one thing that they think they got the smoking gun on right because everything else is sort of a well 30 years ago there was that that full-page ad about the central park five so what about that well if you were looking at it in isolation and you had not heard the fine people hoax and you're just looking at it on its own you'd say well he wrote an ad that says nothing about race there's nothing in there about race it was about crime the people accused happened to be black but it wasn't any part of trump's point so if you saw that in isolation you'd say
say yeah i can see why people are saying it feels racist but there's nothing there i mean there's nothing in what he did that even you know indirectly implies race so if you take away the charlottesville find people hoax which is the one that people said ah

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which is the one that people said ah finally now we don't have to read his mind anymore we don't have to think he was thinking something wrong even though he didn't do things wrong we could we know he was thinking bad things now we have the actual proof so once you have the proof it proves all the other things it's like now that we've heard this we know all of his secret thoughts are confirmed so i would say that those two hoaxes actually completely determined the midterm result and that means that the fake news literally is running the country at this point if you're worried about uh foreign interference you should rethink that on a statistical on a statistical basis because what we have now it looks like you probably have a russia which wouldn't mind having trump again i think i'm not sure but it feels like it and

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i'm not sure but it feels like it and then you've got a china that absolutely doesn't want trump because biden is china friendly so it looks like it's a contest between china and maybe russia intelligence to try to thwart the fake news in this country which will otherwise determine the election so we have foreign interfec this is literally true we have foreign interference in our fake news which will cause the fake news to less reliably throw the election and make it illegitimate now i'm not coming out in favor of foreign interference i'm simply pointing out the irony that it might be the only thing that could save us
again not in favor of it i'm not making i'm not making a pro-russian statement i'm just saying that if the fake news

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i'm just saying that if the fake news was going to do another 2018 job on the country and just completely rigged the election by fake information what if russia successfully interfered with our election in a way that thwarted the fake news would that be bad in theory it would be bad
bad hypothetically it would be terrible to have foreign interference except that our
our domestic interference is far worse right so sort of uh two wrongs making a right situation sometimes it works senator tom cotton continues to make news he's good at making news and he wants to ban a federal funding from any school that has include included the what is called the race baiting 1619 project in the curriculum now the 1619 project

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in the curriculum now the 1619 project 1619 refers to the first date of slavery i think uh the beginning of slavery and the curriculum would include the fact that the white the white race is quote barbaric devils and quote bloodsuckers so tom cotton thinks that schools should not give federal funding if they're teaching that white people are barbaric devils and bloodsuckers i'm thinking to myself that sounds pretty reasonable tom cotton i have to say i haven't always agreed with tom cotton he's got some opinions that you know a little uh a little outside my uh range of happiness but not this one this one seems right down the center like this one doesn't even look right-wing to me does it i like you could argue that this is oh he's a right-wing guy but not this this is right down the middle

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middle so will this get passed i doubt it but i'm glad he's doing it um here's an interesting story that i don't know what to make of it you know about the uh the book and the movie plandemic right so you know that there's a a doctor who's suggesting that uh i guess there's going to be a tv the sinclair local tv stations are gonna air and the sinclair stations by the way own a lot of local tv stations so this is a big deal uh they're gonna air the pandemic uh that it's a it's called a researcher's conspiracy theory now conspiracy theory is what you call anything you don't agree with so keep an open mind about what's a conspiracy theory and what isn't but the plandemic claims that dr fauci uh was responsible for creating the coronavirus

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the coronavirus and they sent it to china and it's so found she's responsible for the coronavirus now i suppose we live in a world where anything's possible right anything's possible but um and and then other people weighed in
in and said that this is the most widely debunked conspiracy theory ever now i told you before that one of the authors of the pandemic book lives locally around here and he's lobbied me i think he sent me three books so far he's lobbied me to get him on here to my periscopes which makes me uh think he might be watching right now so i can't heck it lively so i did get your messages and the reason that i haven't responded is that i can't vet this sort of stuff so eric balling apparently had uh

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eric balling apparently had uh you know the doctor on there recently and he got some criticism for not knowing ahead of time the other things that they had claimed etc and i don't want to i don't want to make the mistake that eric bowling made which is putting on one side of a controversial scientific claim if i can't argue the claim in other words if i don't know enough about the topic or i could push back on a claim i don't want that person talking in public with you know my help because at any any single claim and a context uh looks persuasive so i don't have an opinion about whether the planet is totally debunked as other people say or there's something to part of it but maybe not all of it don't know but i'd also suggest that you don't know and
and for the fact that the sinclair stations are going to run this i think is completely irresponsible

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i think is completely irresponsible unless it also runs something from the critics if it's balanced if they say well this is what the experts say here's what the plan dammit movie says and let's go back to the experts and see what they say if they do something like that then fine you know maybe it's a public interest to know to see both sides but i don't think that's going to happen let me give you a good example of what happens when you only look at one side of an argument in the comments tell me was michael jackson totally definitely a child molester or not in the comments tell me your opinion and i'll tell you why i'm asking this i'm asking because this goes to my point about how if you see one side of an argument it's always convincing if one lawyer gets the talk and the other side doesn't get to talk that one lawyer will will convince you pretty much every time i'm looking at your your comments about

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i'm looking at your your comments about michael jackson and you'll see that they're mixed which is what i was expecting you'll see a bunch of yeses you receive a bunch of no's now how can it be that we get to this point in time and you've got a bunch of yeses and you've got a bunch of no's well let me tell you my experience i went from saying well gosh i don't know could be true could be true could be not true and then i watched uh a netflix special i think it was netflix in which uh he showed two of his accusers now adults telling their story now when you hear the adults telling the story of what happened to them when they're younger it is a hundred percent credible you could have it would be hard to watch that documentary and walk away thinking that jackson was innocent i mean it would be really hard it's completely convincing

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so therefore michael jackson definitely a child buster right very convincing except last night i watched another documentary last night i watched one called uh square one and it was it took the other side and it went through the description of how the initial accuser made the accusation etc and i don't want to give it away oh was it an hbo special somebody's correcting me
me uh and was it something wonderland or yeah that was the name of it so anyway so i watched the the other side of it and let me tell you the other side of it that says he was not a child molester is 100 credible blew my freaking head off if you had told me that there was an other side to this story after i'd seen the completely convincing evidence that he was obviously a child blesser

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was obviously a child blesser when you see the other side it'll blow your head off let me give you just a flavor of it and let me tell you you should watch this because if if you believe that michael jackson definitely is guilty and i'm not going to say he is or not i'm going to only talk about the quality of the arguments do i know anything yeah i wasn't there it was not there let me give you some examples the very first accuser who ended up ended up settling when you hear the story of how that scam came about and you hear that even the kid didn't think anything happened he talked to his friends and said nothing happened even after the fact i mean when you hear the whole story it really was just a con artist who figured out a way to make michael jackson pay and here was the part of the story i'd never heard before and it goes like this there were two court cases one was criminal and one was

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court cases one was criminal and one was civil so one tries to get money and one is trying to see if michael jackson goes to jail typically the way you do those is you do the criminal case first and then depending on how that turns out that gives you a basis to to do or not do
do a um a civil suit where you're trying to get money now the problem is that in the michael jordan in the michael jackson case his civil suit was on a a faster schedule which meant that he would have had to give away his entire defense in the civil suit before the criminal case was run and if you do that the experts say that the criminal case people get to craft and recraft their case so that the defense doesn't work and therefore it's massively unconstitutional or at least unfair i think it's actually passed constitutional muster since then

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passed constitutional muster since then but in my opinion it's unconstitutional because it guarantees an unfair trial in the criminal case guarantees it it guarantees an unfair trial and so michael jackson had the following situation he could either settle for something that definitely didn't happen or he could risk going to jail because he knew that his defense would be laid bare in the in the civil suit and when he went to criminal court basically he would get eaten alive and probably be convicted for something that didn't happen and so he settled once he settled there became another thing that happened and here's the key part the fake news business at the time was paying people who would come forward and say that something bad happened at michael jackson's house what happens when you pay massive amounts of money

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amounts of money to people who are willing to lie on television what happens you get a lot of people who are willing to lie on television and the ones who came after were just sort of obvious liars so now you've got one case the jackson settled because he got this weird legal bind that he just had to do the same thing that created the first story that generated fake news paying people for more stories because they got a lot of clicks so now you have a pattern and when you say to yourself but what about those you know the two older ones that you saw in the other documentary they're adults it doesn't seem like they have anything to gain by making something up well here's the thing they also have some connection to some of the badness and they won't give it away but they don't the the documentary that excuses jackson doesn't too directly deal with those

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doesn't too directly deal with those latest adult accusations but it does completely eliminate the bulk of the ones you've heard and they are absolutely they look pretty fake the other ones who knows but let me give you a little uh a little anecdote here uh colleen colleen mcculkin was saying this when you hear the story that uh michael jackson let children they had been visiting sleep over in his bedroom what do you think you you see them all in the same bed right and here's here's a one of the stories that colleen mcculken was saying he goes the first thing you don't understand is that michael jackson's bedroom was two stories it was two stories so you could be in his bedroom without even being in the same room and he told the story about some kid who wanted to sleep in in his bedroom in his bed and michael jackson asked one of the adult staff members

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adult staff members to sleep in the room with him and the the two of them slept on the floor and let the kids use the big bed now i don't know how common it was for him to do that but the fact that it happened even once tells you that michael jackson was aware that you don't want to be alone with a kid in your bed did he ever do it before i don't know so here's the point i don't know what michael jackson did or did not do i do know that a huge part of that story about what he did looks completely not credible that doesn't mean all the rest of it is not credible it just means that the fake news basically destroyed this person all right if you took the fake news business out of the equation michael jackson would still probably be performing today i don't even know if he'd be dead so keep that in mind uh you gotta you have to watch both of those documentaries if you don't watch them both you're really not gonna get the feel of this

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really not gonna get the feel of this two-world situation um i saw on social media but i'm looking for a confirmation that something like half of all coronavirus deaths happen to diabetics is that really true is it true that half of coronavirus deaths are diabetics and the diabetics are still walking around just like they have the same risk of everybody else i mean i would hope that they're hiding pretty well by now but it feels like we could really make something happen if that's true um there are also two movies and two worlds about all the protests if you look at fox news you'll see lots of articles and photos of things burning and things being thrown at police and and dangerous lasers uh blinding them etc
etc a bunch of police have been literally blinded by these lasers from the protesters now

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by these lasers from the protesters now um i just i i'm so angry about that in particular it's one thing to get hit with a blunt object i mean that could be bad enough but to be blinded just because you went to work uh i don't know if the police just opened fired on on the protesters with the with the i think they should shoot to kill anybody who's got a laser that they should that they're putting in people's eyes that's just my opinion now probably would cause a lot of problems it may be more problems than it solves but i think if you actually saw somebody aiming the laser that no matter where that laser was aimed if it's a deadly weapon meaning that it will blind somebody i think the police should be able to shoot to kill if they even see the laser you know the the moment the laser comes out that should be a shoot to kill situation because it would be if it were a gun right if somebody brought out a gun that'd be a shoot to kill situation if

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that'd be a shoot to kill situation if it looked like they were going to use it if somebody brings out a laser to blind a police officer let me let me say as clearly as i can possibly can you put me on that jury that police officer is free put me on the jury that tries to convict a police officer for shooting somebody who has a blinding laser that they that they're is in their hand you're a free man or free woman yeah you put me on that jury no way i'm gonna convict the cop for shooting a guy with a laser that blinds people no way if you're wondering what's going to happen with all their urban centers i suggest you learn about insurance and banking because when you see all the shops that were destroyed by the the looters in the urban areas you say to yourself well you know they'll wait for the tension to go down and then they'll rebuild or maybe other people will come in other tenants will take over and rebuild

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other tenants will take over and rebuild but there's a problem you kind of need insurance to have a viable business if you need a bank loan the bank the bank's gonna want you to have insurance too so that you're covered in case something happens now insurance companies will often if not always exclude riots so riots would not be covered by your insurance now that was probably not a big problem in the past because when you're filling out your insurance policy you're thinking well what are the odds i'm going to lose my business to a riot you know that doesn't seem very likely so you still buy the insurance but would you buy insurance with no riot protection in the very places that have recently been destroyed by riots and no end in sight i would i would suggest that you can predict what's going to happen to at least the retail parts of the inner cities by looking at banking and insurance

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by looking at banking and insurance and entrepreneurs and how they manage risk and at this point the risk is just too high and that's going to persist for years so i don't see any situation in which the urban areas quickly come back if they come back at all
they're uh i was tweeting about 5g and you know people think there might be some health dangers from 5g which is the new faster technology for phones now the first thing i want to say about it is as i said my tweet i don't think society understands that this new faster speed for phones called 5g because it sounds like 4g and 3g and you knew what those were right oh 3g was dated but it was kind of slow 4g is pretty snappy pretty fast

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4g is pretty snappy pretty fast 5g is going to be better it'll be a little faster right if that's why you're thinking you're missing the show 5g is not a little bit faster data 5g will change civilization 5g will just change civilization in a way similar to how smartphones did because i don't know about you but i i'm using my phone for getting all my delivery of my food you know because i'm quarantined at the moment in anticipation of some surgery upcoming and so if i didn't have my phone i could barely do what i do i mean the smartphones i think you would agree have transformed civilization but not as much as 5g and here's why 5g is going to give you a augmented reality world it won't be long before that my glasses are connected to my phone and my phone has

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my phone has 5g that's pretty much guaranteed there's no way that won't happen because it's just too it's too there i mean it's too obvious that that's going to be a thing once you have enough people who have the the types of glasses or they don't really need them they could just hold up their phone and see and see an augmented reality through the you know just like a camera but those people will be living in a much improved world because with your glasses on you won't just see the things that are there you'll see a menu for everything there there's a television across the room i would see a remote control pop up and i could control my tv in the air because in the air i would see an actual remote control so i could get directions on anything i could find out you know really i would have this whole enhanced reality such that when i took my glasses off at night it would start to feel the way you feel when you accidentally leave home without

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when you accidentally leave home without your phone have you had that experience ever get in your car and you're driving some place you're going to be gone for a while and you look for your phone and it's not there and you think oh god what if what if i get a problem i want you know it's not the end of the world but it definitely bothers you right now imagine if you had an enhanced reality world an augmented reality where you're seeing things floating that don't exist you can call up a screen that floats in front of you to watch a to watch a movie that floats in the air that only you can see you know because you got your your your earbuds into so you're walking around watching a movie you meet somebody their their social media profile appears above their head try to live without that it will be so addictive and useful it'll be like if you didn't have a smartphone so i think that the world will start to bifurcate into people who are essentially

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are essentially cyborgs because once you get to the point where you're living in an enhanced reality with you know labels and messages and instructions and more detail and all that you're basically a cyborg now uh i've argued for a long time and elon musk said something similar recently that the smartphones already made us cyborgs so we're you know the fact that you can leave it at home and drive away is sort of trivial because you'll wish you hadn't right but as soon as you've got the the what's it called the neural link uh which is also elon musk's one of his companies they're going to embed a little sensor for your brains you maybe could control things um just by thinking it now imagine if you
you if you could see through your glasses and enhance reality with augmented stuff and you can just think them to change so you could just look around you could see a tv and you you could just blink at it and it would come on

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it would come on because your your brain knew that you wanted it to be on so put those things together and we are fully into the cyborg cyborg era but here's the problem what if everybody doesn't become a cyborg will there be a human organic movement of people who don't have any technology probably i just don't know how big it will be will it be you know amish country small or will be a third of the country doesn't want to be a cyborg now if you ask me oh i can't wait make me a cyborg as quickly as you can but anyway people don't realize what a big deal that is but here's the funny part of my story there's nothing more amusing well there probably is but it's amusing when you're on social media and people don't know what your background is and they challenge you on a point that you might be the one person in the world who knows

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the one person in the world who knows more about it than anybody so it's sort of like that woody allen movie i think it was annie hall where he's standing in line for a show and they're arguing about some public figure marshall mcluhan an author and marsha mcluhan ends up in this movie scene the actual marshall mcluhan is standing in line right behind him and gets into the conversation and and corrects something and that that movie scene always stuck with me because you see that playing out in real life and it happened here so somebody said to me on social media that 5g hasn't been tested because the the big companies that are going to roll it out they would have no interest in testing it to find out that it's dangerous and therefore it's not been tested sort of logically you say to yourself well logically they don't want to hear that it's bad for you they want to make a trillion dollars the phone companies mostly so you know and the phone makers so nobody would have studied it

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so nobody would have studied it now that's what somebody said to me on social media and here was my answer i used to work for the phone company and part of my job was was doing the economic projections of whether we should do more wireless stuff i actually personally worked on that and part of my economic decision was informed with by my co-worker who i often sat right next to whose job it was to study all the the health studies of the cell cell phones so that was the um prior to 5g technology that was probably a 3g kind of a technology and we studied it because that's part of the economics i wasn't going to give management an economic analysis that says looks like we'll make a billion dollars on this and ignore the fact that it might kill people i'm not going to leave that out that's pretty important to the economics of a project if you

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to the economics of a project if you leave out the part where it kills 100 million people i don't think you've done your work right so this person was arguing me with me that a phone company would ignore this part of the economic impact you know the health part which also has an economic impact and she was talking to somebody who literally was the guy who did it i actually worked at a phone company i actually did those economics and i sat next to the guy who did look in detail at the health studies and then summarized them for management so management was comfortable that it wouldn't be killing people now years have passed has anybody died from their cell phone you know can we say that my economic analysis was accurate that i didn't need to include it can we say that my co-worker who studied it got it right now if you're telling me that apple apple i mean think about this you're telling me that apple is going to bet a trillion dollars

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is going to bet a trillion dollars because it'll be something like that you know eventually you tell me apple is going to bet a trillion dollars on the business plan without looking at the most obvious biggest thing that you should look at
i think they looked at it now you can make the argument that whoever's looked at it has looked at the wrong stuff you could make the argument that the studies weren't good enough there are lots of things you could argue that i wouldn't argue back there are plenty of bad studies but here's what i will not allow anybody to tell me and without pushing back don't tell me they haven't looked into it are you kidding don't tell me that they haven't looked into it and if any of those things were credible from the brain cancer to gives you coronavirus or makes it worse to
to stunt your growth if any of that was backed by science
companies like apple are not going to wade into it with that

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wade into it with that that kind of a risk that's a that is a company destroying risk you just don't take that risk it's just not a thing but that's different from saying let me be very clear i'm not a doctor i don't know what causes risk and what doesn't but i'm telling you they looked into it that's all i'm going to tell you there's some evidence based on we don't have much information on it yet it comes from a tweet from somebody who seems to know a lot of stuff that the houston consulate that was closed the chinese consulate that had evidence apparently of spying on american companies and intellectual property theft and all that apparently there's some information we haven't seen yet that would suggest that china is backing black lives matter
now i ask you does that sound likely does it seem likely or unlikely to you that china might have at least tried i don't know

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might have at least tried i don't know how successful they were but at least tried to encourage black lives matter to do a little more protesting because here's the calculation you should look at when trying to decide if that's true number one would they think of it of course of course so you don't have to wonder hey did china have that idea had they considered it did anybody suggest hey maybe you should back the protesters who are you know making the united states look bad of course they thought of it because if this situation were reversed we would have thought of it i mean i'm sure we've backed dissidents and protesters in other countries that's pretty basic the second thing you should ask for is what would be the penalty for getting caught and we already know the penalty for getting caught it's nothing that's nothing this consular closed but they have other consulates the the the penalty is basically nothing one

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the penalty is basically nothing one consulate got closed like it's not as if they don't have computers and hackers and thieves and other consulates i don't know how how much difference does it make if you live in in houston versus you got a consulate somewhere else so i don't think there is any risk you know it just costs a little money right they've got to remove move a consulate but it's not like anybody died it's not like we completely decoupled over this it didn't tell us anything we didn't already know no risk so if there's no risk but there's a potential big reward and there could be if they're destabilizing the united states of course it's happening in the in the situation where they think of it there are lots of people involved you know in china there's lots of people involved and
and there's a big payoff and a small risk it'll happen every time every time it's going to happen i mean mischief will happen under those

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i mean mischief will happen under those conditions
so cnn continues to be funny in trying to be serious so caitlyn caitlin collins who's one of their local anti-trump voices she was mocking him in a written article i think there was a from a video piece because he decided to cancel the republican national convention which of course she would agree with because cnn is sort of anti-large gatherings unless they're protests and then she says that he would cancel his convention despite pushing for schools to reopen now the the implication is that that would be inconsistent why would the president not think it was safe to have a convention if he does think it's safe to send kids to school is that a fair comparison you know i complain all the time that people who um come up through a journalism

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who um come up through a journalism or you know some specific profession if they don't have a broad understanding of how to make decisions and how to compare things the way an economist or an engineer or scientist would that they say consistently dumb things but don't know it and i don't think anything could be dumber than saying i don't understand the consistency if the president thinks that a bunch of older adults packed into a room is dangerous why doesn't he think that the group who basically doesn't get coronavirus why wouldn't he think they're dangerous they couldn't be more different situations they couldn't be more different now is it true that opening schools will also cause spread of the coronavirus yes yes everybody knows that the president knows that nobody's denying it it's just that we think that's a level that's controllable if you're you know comparing it to the presumed benefits of getting kids back to school

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benefits of getting kids back to school that there is a risk but it's one that the president decides is worth it i don't know how cnn can pretend that they can't see the difference there and they're they're looking for these little gachas um
five seattle uh news organizations were ordered by a judge to turn over their video and photos for protests so law enforcement wanted to get a hold of all the video and pictures of protests so they could find out who to arrest etc news organizations resisted and now the king county superior court said that they have to give it up interesting so all of the news organizations just became weaponized by the police will that change i don't know so uh can the news organizations continue to send news crews who will take pictures and video knowing that those pictures and

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video knowing that those pictures and video will go directly to the police and then they will be the news organizations will be part of what's disbanding black lives matter very ticklish position to be in wouldn't you say
say i saw somebody asking me about uh what's his name portnoy and barstool barstool sports he did an interview with president trump people are saying and i would agree with him i like to use that trump phrase people are saying that that that's the best interview with the president that they've ever seen and i would say i would agree okay in in terms of entertainment and in terms of
of humanizing the president and just having fun with it probably the best one i i would say i would say it's the best interview with the president i've seen now the president was very good at avoiding uh and avoiding the questions

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avoiding uh and avoiding the questions so it was this weird situation yeah dave portney dave portnoy it was this weird situation where dave would ask a question such as you know do you always use the power handshake with world leaders wouldn't you like to know the answer to that question it was like he asked the question that i've thought about for so long and nobody's ever asked it now of course the president completely ignored the question and just talked about handshakes and coronavirus and how world leaders love him and stuff which was perfectly executed media spin if you will in other words the president is just really good at turning the question into whatever he wanted the question to be which is what you actually learn when you take media training you learn how to do that it's something the president does great and most politicians do it doing well as well um the only thing that bothered me about dave portnoy's interview is that it should

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portnoy's interview is that it should have been me and when i say a show to bed b it just means i'm jealous yeah so i'm just jealous because if there was anybody who would give an irreverent uh interview with the president they would still be watchable i would be on that list of people that you should watch interview the president now i do have her uh informally i did put a request in but i probably need to formalize that because i think that between now and november an interview with me with president trump i think would be useful for the country uh i wouldn't be just entertaining i'd want it to be useful so i think i could frame things in a way that you would quite enjoy it but yes i i'll have to confess there are very few things that make me jealous because it's just not a it's just not an emotion i spend any time with but and that's why this caught me off guard and it's why it's it's why i'm mentioning it that was the first time

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first time like i genuinely felt jealous i mean it's a small thing right it has no real impact in my life but he was that good so you want to be so good at your job as dave portnoy is you want to be so good that somebody else who does that job goes oh damn it damn it that should have been me so a plus watch it if you haven't seen it i cheekily am continuing to say that um oh by the way i just one more thing about the find people hoax in the past when i've tweeted that the find people hoax is a hoax my comment feed would just fill with people who would say no it isn't it's totally true i heard it myself today i i tweeted that and got almost no people who thought it was true now i don't know if that's because all of the democrats now know it wasn't true or if they gave up

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or if they gave up you just suddenly they stopped refuting that point that doesn't make sense i feel like maybe we made a dent collectively because at least my critics have backed off and just you know let it go that i'm stating it as a fact that it's a hoax and then they're letting it go now which i think is capitulation but i might be a little optimistic on that at least for the commenters not for the i think biden still says it all right my last point here i've said this before but you cannot um i don't think you could ignore the effect of fiction has on how we look at the real world because everything you look at needs to fit some model of understanding so and ideally you want the new information to fit some existing model in your head and you just populate that existing model that's called confirmation bias and you see it in everything right you see the left agrees to the left the right agrees to the right

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agrees to the right but there's there's a statement about human beings that i think you would all agree with which is it's difficult to do something anything until you can first imagine it so you don't really attempt to do things you can't imagine can work the wright brothers um invented an airplane because they could well imagine you know they could see it flying you know i assume i assume that they imagined it working and then then they worked on anywhere now all the things you imagine don't work necessarily when you try to do them but you're not going to do anything until you can first imagine it's a thing and that makes me get to my impression or the filter that i just sort of automatically have on watching the protests the first filter is it looks very female lead and i don't know how many of you are also getting that feeling but antifa in particular and i think

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but antifa in particular and i think black lives matter as well but they seem like they are mostly female leaders or at least the leaders that are the most vocal or maybe the most effective most aggressive seem to be female so it's like a female lead organization and the males at least the antifa males not so much the black lives matter males but the antifa males seem to fall into a category of not as manly if we could say that and again this isn't an insult you know i'm not saying that if you're if you don't have a manly persona you're worth less or anything nothing like that i'm left to burning so if you want to be every letter in lgbtq i'm cool with that i'm 100 cool with that you can be any letter you want you can be any lifestyle you want if it doesn't bother me you can be whatever you want so there's no criticism implied here i'm just observing that there's a certain

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there's a certain kind of man who is enjoying this anti-foss situation and they you know if i could use the diminutive term beta males they kind of fall into that category now again this is not an insult because i think that it's a big world i'm not saying it's a good thing to be an alpha male or that it's a bad thing to be a beta male they both exist it's a preference it's the way you're born or it's a lifestyle it doesn't matter it's all okay with me alright if you're not breaking the law if you're not violating the constitution it's just none of my business period could not care less about your personal lifestyle choices if they don't affect me so i say that just because my filter is that it looks like the it looks like game of thrones with uh daenerys so you got the strong female leader the queen of dragons and she formed an army of of literally eunuchs so their their men had been cast

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so their their men had been cast castrated to make them more you know docile and obedient soldiers i guess i don't know what the theory was there exactly but i don't know why you'd want castrated soldiers it feels like the wrong idea but it reminded me of that and it looks like it's the queen of dragons that are unique army but they're reenacting the joker movie and i said this before to great pushback which i enjoy of course and the pushback was that if the joker movie had not been such a universally you know acclaimed movie and a lot of people saw it if you hadn't first pictured the joke or movie would it have been as easy to recreate it
it because that's what the protests and the looting effectively did it recreated the look and feel of the joker movie is that a coincidence is it simply that there are movies and they're in my head and so i just interpret the world through those movies and that's all it is
is or is there a causal

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or is there a causal relationship in other words if you can only do the things you can imagine and what you could imagine was not you know everybody's doing well but what you could imagine was that joker movie you're more likely to do the thing you could imagine so i do think that fiction has a big role in how we're interpreting our reality but also how we act on it because you just don't act on things you can't imagine all right um i'm just looking at your comments yeah you know um i don't think that i don't think we should make a judgment about what's better or worse when it comes to people's biological situation but it is fair to say it's different you know nobody would argue with the fact that you know there are differences among people but we don't have to put a value judgment on that

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anyone see zuckerberg's face in hawaii yeah yeah zuckerberg uses a lot of a lot of sunscreen but i don't if you've seen his complexion you know there's a good reason for that
but where is the imagining from well it's coming from fiction that's the point somebody says you're reaching on the joker thing in my opinion well you know the the best opinions are the ones that you say to yourself in fact i i try to stay in the space as much as possible my favorite opinions to present here are the ones where you say to yourself i'm not so sure that's true i've got a little skepticism about that those are my favorite places to be i will tell you that based on everything i know from hypnosis from persuasion and living a life in which i've done everything from marketing to selling that the the models that you have in your head of what the world can look like

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what the world can look like are very persuasive now if you have less experience in hypnosis and persuasion than i do and your opinion is different from mine about this topic you should ask yourself would your opinion change if you knew as much as i did about this specific topic and that's where i want you to be i want you to be thinking maybe maybe i should look into that maybe that's a thing or maybe i'll look for it in the future look forward in the future and you might be surprised but you don't have to believe everything i say i wouldn't talk to you later