Episode 1064 Scott Adams: Kamala’s New Face, Kanye’s Campaign, How Trump is Doing on Coronavirus

Date: 2020-07-20 | Duration: 1:03:56

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• Kamala Harris face

• The “Cancel-Fly” buzzing around me, seeking stink

• Chuck Todd, intentional HOAX promoter

• Coronavirus results and leadership quality

• Rob Smith: 5 Words to win the black vote

• Kanye’s Harriet Tubman comment

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for it but you all know the difference you'll never know let's talk about all the news number one did do you all see Camilla Harris's face what if you haven't seen it so apparently and this is speculation based on smarter people than me telling me what to think yeah the speculation is that she had some fairly extensive facial cosmetic surgery summer saying Botox but according to my smartest person who tells me things about this field yeah it looks like it wasn't Botox because you can she can still move her forehead it looks like it was probably an eye lift very high likelihood of an eye lift and maybe some general face lifting and neck tightening so I think it's a neck I lift kind of thing

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think it's a neck I lift kind of thing according to the smartest person I know now if you saw the pictures you were probably kind of horrified because it doesn't even look like a human being at this point it looks like there's something terribly terribly wrong but the only thing wrong as far as I can tell is it's just early meaning that what you're seeing is the after the aftermath was swelling of somebody whose nerves are not all quite functioning yet and just had some facial facial cosmetic surgery so if it makes you feel better should you wait about three weeks but my expert tells me this she's going to look really good so if you're judging her now which apparently is too close from the time that she had some surgery I think you're seeing just the recovery look so you're seeing her look swelled and she

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you're seeing her look swelled and she can't move things yet but according to my best information it's probably gonna come out great and she'll she'll probably just look ten years younger that might help her out I think it was a very unusual choice to get this done when she did very unusual choice because it does put her right in the middle of the summer when the nominations happened and all that so it almost feels like she's not going to be nominated at anytime soon and maybe not at all because I just can't see her getting that surgery now here's the interesting part do you think she got the surgery only because it would make her look younger that would be the normal reason that one would do that or was it to change some features to also make her look more attractive and also younger which is the other reason they anybody

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which is the other reason they anybody does such things or and here's the one part is there any kind of a tweak that is specifically political now and I'm just going to speculate because there's no evidence no evidence that anything like that happened but I did tell you that when she dropped out of the race for the top spot the to win the primary I did tell you that I predicted she would disappear for a while and come back reworked and improved now I was thinking in terms of her technique which I think actually did get improved and she doesn't do this self conscious giggling as much at cetera but the other thing she had working against her if she had sort of a stern face can I say RBF do you all know what that means rest resting be face and what she smiled she her face would really come alive but if

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her face would really come alive but if she were looking Stern it was sort of a it's pretty Stern is it possible I'm just gonna just go ask the question is it possible that somebody would get a cosmetic surgery there was optimize for getting rid of your RBF so that you would just look more approachable more electable could you change somebody's perceived personality by changing the physical look I think maybe yes I think maybe you could actually I don't know if that was an objective or anything that's going to happen with accomplice but I think it's possible so it's a bold bold move I think it's bold because of the timing of it but if it works and there's a good reason to think that in three weeks she's gonna look terrific and maybe younger than she looked before maybe it worked we'll see you there was a riot in

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worked we'll see you there was a riot in Seattle outside of a Apple Store and some I guess adjacent blocks and let's let's go check see you then to see the coverage of the riot in Seattle click click click click thing there nothing looked like it didn't even happen now you can see it on Fox News but even then it's not a headline it's one of the lower lower little mentioned stories below or you usually don't scroll to so even foxnews is downplaying it but it seems like exactly the sort of thing that would be news so still don't know what's going on there so yesterday I said that the allegations against Roger stone that he used a let's say a an offensive racial word on the radio interview I said unless you've actually heard the audio dough or Ematic Lee assume that that that actually

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Lee assume that that that actually happened now we've heard the audio have y'all heard the audio it sure sounds like it happened I think I think Roger stones defense is that the audio was distorted or cut by the the DJ or something happened but he basically says it didn't happen here's my take on Roger stone I was one of the more active blue checks if he can say that who were promoting for him to get pardoned or have his have a sentence commuted and so I was very happy to see that that happened however Roger stone you're totally on your own now whatever happens to you Roger stone from this point on you're on your own I do not have your back sorry sorry because if I put my reputation on

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sorry because if I put my reputation on the line to be you know part of many people trying to essentially lobby the President to let this guy out and one weekend of end of danger legal jeopardy and Roger stone drops a big old turd on the president's head indirectly I mean the president pardons this guy then he uses this language which you should have known would be picked up
he's on his own right how can how can I support that or back it explain it apologize for anything he's just not his own so i disavow myself from all things Roger stone okay I'm glad he got his apartment his commutation I got a little cancel fly after me today I think that's the new word I'm going to use the cancel flies a fly like a little bug that flies around

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fly like a little bug that flies around are the people who try to buzz around people on social media just to see if there's a weakness there just to see if they can attract some other flies maybe if I maybe if I say there's some stink over here I'll get some more flies if I get enough lies I can cancel this guy so this columnist for Chicago some times have I ever mentioned that professional writers don't seem to like me if you're following the fun on Twitter it's just one professional writer after another or artist artists and writers just come after me like crazy and they always have the worst arguments so this guy Neal Steinberg columnist for the Chicago sun-times it comes after me and I had tweeted that that when people try to say what the president did wrong that their responses sounded funny all right so

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responses sounded funny all right so this is what I said and now I'm going to tell you how he misinterpreted me and and just for a laugh to see how badly it was so what I said is it's funny to hear people criticize the president because they they don't do it in rational ways so they're the way they do it is funny he turned that into he tweets of me a hundred and forty thousand dead Americans thanks to the response he bungled meeting the president is funny to you what at what point did I say 140,000 dead people was funny to me that's not even close to what I said but he but here's a professional we could put that in the tweet and somebody reads that and they're gonna think my god was this cartoonist laughing at the death of 140,000 people no no I wasn't even talking about the deaths of 140,000 people I was talking about people's response to the president completely

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response to the president completely different topic so what's funny about this besides the fact that writers are insanely bad at analyzing anything is that everybody thinks they can tell how well the President did on Crona virus so I've taught you the high ground at maneuver in the world of persuasion it's just a name I give it but the AI ground maneuver is when there's a debate going on doesn't matter what the debate is and if you can find the high ground a point in the ends of the debate meaning that as soon as people hear your point they think oh yeah I just have to pretend I'm on the same side now that's such a strong point and it's called the high ground because it takes you out of the weeds of the thing you're debating in which nobody's going to change the mind up to a higher point where there is no debate and it goes like this do you all

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debate and it goes like this do you all like science who likes science raise your hands oh I see that all of your hands are up that's right nobody dislikes science now there's lots of complaints about science being inaccurate uncertain topics etc but I think I could make this statement fairly confidently there's nobody who doesn't like science right so science is the ultimate high ground at least in our society so if you can take a conversation out of the weeds and bring it up to hey I like science you like science why don't we be scientific nobody can resist that because they immediately look like an idiot for being anti science you just can't stay in the weeds if somebody says Sciences so here's what I did both humorously and as a maybe as a lesson for you about how to handle these situations so there's lots of debate online about how President Trump handled

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online about how President Trump handled the corona virus now most people have an opinion that President Trump did a good job handling the corona virus in terms of his leadership or he did a bad job right and you've seen the debate online and in the news and that's the weeds did he do a good job did he do a bad job on coronavirus good job bad job good job by job that can never be resolved because it's all just opinion ii stuff very opinion ii so what i did was i took it up to the high ground and i tweeted this and this is the fun part for today so i tweeted the best example of unscientific thinking lately is that one can compare leadership across countries by looking at their coronavirus outcomes that isn't even close to being a thing so that's my high ground move it is not scientific thinking to believe that you can compare how leaders did in this coronavirus

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how leaders did in this coronavirus situation from one country to another if you think you can do that or that it's so obvious you don't need Scott Scott Scott it's so obvious you don't need a controlled study just look at the graph United States graph looks like this South Korea looks like this duh duh it's obvious just look at the outcomes different leadership different outcomes people who did similar kinds of things good outcomes Scott duh duh it's as obvious as it could be right but it's not you can't compare leaders across different countries that's not a thing it can't be done there's no science in the world that can do that the smartest scientists in the world could get together and try to study this and they wouldn't even have the right data they would just look at it and say well thanks for inviting us here but we

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well thanks for inviting us here but we don't really have the kind of data that would be able to sort this out don't believe me yet let me run through some examples so just this morning well so here's the big problem you have different leaders but they all have different countries you're gonna ask me later but wait what about some of the Scandinavian countries they're similar ish right we'll get to that hold that thought I'm not forgetting it we'll get to it number one how many other countries have fake news like we have in the United States I don't know do you know how many countries have free markets and fake news if I go to South Korea will I see two vit different versions of the news I don't actually know the answer to that question to any of you if I go to South Korea and then flipping through the news channels first of all this is more than one now I don't even know do you if I go to Sweden or some other country

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if I go to Sweden or some other country and I'm flipping through the channels am I going to find an entire major news network that's just making stuff up because we have that we have an entire major news network that literally is just making up you know what you don't believe that you don't believe that our fake news literally just make stuff up well did you watch Meet the Press in which Chuck Todd after the Keeley mcenany quote had been completely debunked where she and allegedly said that well we wanted to send kids back to school even if the science said otherwise but really she said we want to send kids back to school because the science says it's safe everybody knows that that's why she said everybody knows that the initial story was just grossly taken out of context to literally reverse its meaning from we want to be compatible with science too we're going

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compatible with science too we're going to ignore science days have passed since that story came was debunked and went away and even yesterday NBC Chuck Dodd brought that story out like it was true as if it were true days after it's been debunked on all the networks except I guess is so you don't think that he knew what he was doing you don't think that Chuck Todd and all the people involved with that production you don't think they knew that they just made something up out of nothing well I used to think well maybe they're just confused maybe there's some cognitive dissonance going on but this is one of those cases where you just can't believe that you just look at it you go Chuck I'm pretty sure Chuck Todd watches the news I'm pretty sure he's noticed that even on CNN it got debunked yeah even Jake Tapper debunked it on CNN and he still did it as if had never been

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and he still did it as if had never been debunked there's no way that is anything but just intentionally putting on fake news there's no way I can see it any other way now is that the case of other stories and why does that matter well what did our news tell us told us that hydroxychloroquine will kill you it told you that your president wanted to inject disinfectant or drink bleach or some damn thing that wasn't true so we have a fake news which has been completely discrediting our leadership in ways that are almost unbelievable do other other countries have that same situation do they do they have that same situation so if I went to South Korea where they get a better result because their leadership was so good do you think if I turn on the television are we going to get completely fake science maybe I don't know but I'll bet you

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maybe I don't know but I'll bet you don't know so if you're comparing those countries that's a really big variable in how well your leader could even get people to do how about face masks do you think that the United States would have had let's say better results if President Trump had been more aggressive about face masks early on maybe so right but what advice was he following he was following medical advice that said face best and work turns out that was a big ol lie even found she now admits it but wasn't it the World Health Organization the Surgeon General all these experts were telling us mass didn't work and then they just reversed it and said they do work what did that do to the population of this country if you were a citizen in this country and you knew that your news

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this country and you knew that your news was completely unreliable they're clearly lying to you about big medical stuff I mean life-and-death stuff there is lying to you and then they say mass don't work and then they completely reverse it and say mass do work if you were in South Korea what did you make of that whole situation if you were in South Korea was there ever one moment when you as a citizen of South Korea were seriously considering that masks don't work well but not I'll bet nobody and I won't say nobody well bet the population of South Korea started out with thinking masks work because there's more of a culture of wearing them routinely and I think they stayed that way and landed that way now if they didn't have fake news and they didn't have medical experts lying to them was that because their leader was so good was it because president

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was so good was it because president moon in South Korea was such a good leader or was it because they don't have a fake news and they don't have an anti mask situation they don't have this you know divided between the left and the right where if the left says breathing is good the right will say well we're to breathe them and then they'll all die does that exist in South Korea it's apples and oranges part of the argument of why leadership has made such a difference is you'll see the graph that says the United States curve looks like this and here are these other countries in which their curve looks like this and so based on the outcomes one of them had better better leadership and so I'm looking at the graph and I'm saying huh it's a two-dimensional graph how did they put hydroxychloroquine use in there with all the leadership they didn't so hydroxychloroquine use which you've seen

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hydroxychloroquine use which you've seen other charts to show that they're highly correlated with the outcomes right not enough those other charts are true or not you know I can't trust anything at this point but there's certainly indications that it's a major factor and that's just ignored now why is it the hydroxychloroquine would be so ignored in this country well again the fake news right as soon as it became sort of a Trump pill do you think this country was going to use it as aggressively as other countries know that we also didn't have a supply do you know who did have the supply Germany did you ever the other supply because they have a company Bayer that makes it so if your country had a supply of hydroxychloroquine and they used it are we comparing a leadership from one country to the other or are you comparing that one country had fake news and one didn't because if we didn't have fake news and we did have a factory that

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fake news and we did have a factory that made hydroxychloroquine probably what he used it more and maybe we have better result how about TB vaccinations is that on your chart when you're seeing how each of the leaders is doing based on the outcomes of their coronavirus curves we're on the chart do you see tuberculosis vaccinations because a new study just came out said that there is a very high correlation between the countries that routinely give these vaccinations and ones that don't because there's some thought that the vaccinations that I think it might be a combo vaccinations I don't know it is it's the BCG vaccination but different countries have different policies about whether you universally get those or not in the United States it is not the policy to universally get this vaccination apparently because we don't have a

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apparently because we don't have a problem I guess with tuberculosis or something and and it's a high correlation if you don't have that vaccination you have much worse problems so where exactly where exactly on that chart of coronavirus do we see the vaccination information you don't so and this study said they found that the number of vaccinations of this type the BCG reduced the number of reported cases in the country so would your leadership variable pick up the fact that your country doesn't have BCG vaccination snow no that would not be picked up let me ask you this if Obama had been president when the crew Novartis kicked in this this should just make you laugh I don't even have to finish it do you

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I don't even have to finish it do you think Obama would have been better at getting Republicans to wear face masks raise your hand if you think that Obama would have been more successful in getting Republicans to wear face masks no no Obama would be the worst choice for getting Republicans to wear face masks because the moment that Obama said wear a face mask Republicans would start yelling its Sharia law as Sharia law he's making us wear a scarf because the very next step is we're going to be a Muslim country isn't any way that Obama could have gotten more compliance from Republicans wearing facemasks now do I think that Trump has done a good job in getting people to wear a face masks no I don't I do not think he did a good job there but I don't know that somebody else would have done a

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that somebody else would have done a better job if you know what I mean there's something about the character of the American public that is not comparable to Sweden let me ask you this when we compare ourselves to other countries do you take into account the let's say the the independence of the American voter and how varied in different we are I mean we are a melting pot not just in ethnicity but in political belief and every other kind of belief we have the most diverse public you can imagine can you get a diverse public to all comply to anything sort of know it's really hard can you get a public that is very uniform to agree to something a lot easier do you think it's easier to get the Japanese public or the South Korean public to do something the Swedish public probably although

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the Swedish public probably although Sweden's a little more multicultural lately so that's not a factor let me ask you this if you just took one of these great leaders let's say president moon from South Korea or Angela Merkel who is being mentioned as a good leader in this regard if you just took one of those leaders and let's imagine that they you know spoke fluent English and they could run for president in the United States could you just take that leader from that other country that did so well put them in the United States and they would also do well what do you think how in the world would you know and if you don't know that do you know anything because how are you comparing the u.s. leadership to any other leadership if you don't know the answer to this if I take one of the good leaders from the other country who got a good result and just plug them into the United States would they have gotten a better result you don't know here's the other

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result you don't know here's the other thing you don't know in 2019 there was a stock picker a financial manager who had the best results of all the people who were professional stock pickers in 2019 just was the best of the best and we're talking about tens of thousands hundreds of thousands of stock pickers and one of them beat everybody else so you should put your money in that one right if there was one stock picker who did pick better stocks last year and this was the most recent year so that's the most you're reliable right what's happened recently and they killed all the other people so you should put your money with that one right no no if you think that that's true then you don't understand how to analyze anything somebody was going to be the number one stock picker of 2019 somebody was going to be because lots of people were guessing and

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lots of people were guessing and somebody was gonna guess better than other people there was guaranteed that somebody would be at the top and somebody would be at the bottom just because there were lots of people doing lots of different things some guessed right some guessed wrong the only thing you know if you're looking at one year which is what this whole pro to virus situation is you're looking at you know months really not even here if you're looking at one point in time and you're looking at the result you don't know anything you don't know anything you only know that in this fog of war limit let me give you a better picture there are five different wars that break out in different places at the same time and in each of those cases the country being attacked is in complete fog and they don't even know which way the enemy is now if you're being attacked and you're complete fog and you don't know where the enemy is

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the enemy is you still get a fire back but you don't know where you're firing so the people in Sweden said I don't know where to fire but I'll fire this way bang bang bang bang another country said I don't know where the enemy is but I'll fire this way bang bang bang bang and one of them hits the enemy one of them just by complete lock fired into the fog and hit the enemy are they the the good leadership one no no they're the ones who fired it to the fog and got lucky in the beginning of this coronavirus situation all of our data was wrong all of our assumptions were wrong pretty much everything we knew we didn't really know it was changing the experts were disagreeing what was the good leadership thing to do in that situation well what it's all done because we're dumb we will look at who had the best result based on whatever metric we decided to look at and we're going to say that one was a good leader it won't

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say that one was a good leader it won't be true it won't even be close to true it will be the leader who fired into the fog and got lucky because nobody knew what to do if everybody knew what to do you would have seen people doing largely the same stuff and there was a pretty big variation and what people did now the other thing that people say is Scott Scott Scott you can look in Sweden and you can see that they're having higher infections because they didn't do a full close down it was more of a you know just be smart sort of situation where as similar Scandinavian countries they didn't do what Sweden did and they have lower infection therefore they're the better leadership right right that's pretty clear because the Scandinavian countries are somewhat comparable in a lot of ways and one went one way and got a bad result and everybody told them and everybody told Sweden he's Sweden Sweden

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everybody told Sweden he's Sweden Sweden where we're all smart you're not so if you do that approach you're gonna have high infections and that's not going to work out for you and then Sweden went into it and they got high infections just like everybody said everybody told them you're gonna get high infections if you do it the way you're doing it and they did so Sweden's the bad one right no no if you think you can conclude that you don't have a li stuff because it's only halftime we're literally at the halftime of the game you don't know how Sweden's going to turn out do you in your mind have you said Oh a Sweden's making mistake because the yeah we're all going to get to the end of the coronavirus at the same time and when we get there Sweden will have more deaths because on the day that it's all over it will all be over and then we're all done and we'll count up our deaths and they'll just have more of them so that's a bad job for Sweden right no we don't know that's what's

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right no we don't know that's what's going to happen we don't know that there will be an effective vaccination we don't know if there'll be a number of vaccinations and some work better than others we don't know when that's going to happen and we don't know as much as we'd like to know about herd immunity for example it seems as some people have some kind of natural immunity and there's some evidence that some people who have just been exposed to other coronaviruses might just not get it now if it's true that exposure to other coronaviruses gives you a measure of protection how much how many people need to get the corona virus to reach it herd immunity you don't know do you right here's here's the here's the kick of the pants if it's true that these other corona viruses give you some protection against this corona virus it could be the herd immunity happens at closer to 20% infection because they're

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closer to 20% infection because they're still let's say 40% of the public has that other corona virus protection if you had the 40% to have this natural protection to the 20% who gained gained immunity by getting it suddenly you're a 60% immunity and if Sweden gets there first did they lose or did they win because the way it's looking everybody's going to get to about the same level of infection for whatever other for whatever their country is going to ultimately get infected because we're not going to stop international travel do you think New Zealand is the smart one Oh New Zealand's pretty smart because they they wiped it out and they're on their island well that's kind of easy if you're an island you know good luck New Zealand and good luck Hawaii and good luck Taiwan they all came out pretty well right because it's harder to get there by travel so here's here's my bottom

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by travel so here's here's my bottom line in that Sweden could there's still a possibility I'm not predicting this I'm just saying that one of the outcomes is a Sweden will look like the smartest one when it's all done now you're saying to yourself every expert disagrees with that Scott because there's doing so poorly in the middle of it how in the world could they ever end up being the best one and I just told you we don't know but if it turns out that part of the public is immune Sweden is gonna get to hurt immunity first with an economy that's still relatively functional that's not a bad result so if you think you can compare you can't when you saw the the the graphs of which countries are doing better or worse on coronavirus where was the variable of vitamin D where was that on the chart do all the countries have the same amount of vitamin D do all the citizens have the same amount that's a

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citizens have the same amount that's a pretty big variable we think all right so if you don't know about vitamin D you don't know about hydroxychloroquine you don't know about the differences and how estates have power of the United States because you know we don't have a dictator the states have to have their their say the governors were very involved if you don't know that you don't know about herd immunity you just can't compare the leaders you just can't so I would say that the only thing we can measure right now in the United States as if our hospitals still have capacity the only thing that seems like a reliable indicator to me is that you kept your hospital and your healthcare system open so I would say that if we get to the end of this every country that kept their health care systems alive did well in every country that did not if they lost their health care system to the point where other people were dying because they just couldn't

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were dying because they just couldn't get health care then I would say there were failures but short of that I don't know if there's any other measure that's going to be as useful as you think for sussing out who the good leaders are and then let's say I saw on Fox News one of their commentators saying that the way for Trump to win the black vote which of course would be a lot would be five words and they forget who said it I would like to name the person who said this because I like it but on Fox News and the five words were a school choice for black Americans now I think it would have to be school choice for all Americans or does that racist I know it's hard to tell anymore but I agree with that and here's how Trump could win despite all of the Gorge floating and

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despite all of the Gorge floating and black lives matter and protests and all this and it's the high ground at maneuver Trump could say for example we should do everything we can to decrease the number of times the citizen has a bad encounter with the police so Trump can certainly agree with the general statement that police should not be killing people they should not be killed all right so it's easy to agree with such a generic thing but then he could also say as I've said hey black America it's your smallest problem because if he says it's your smallest problem it sort of forces everybody to look at the data again with would prove that it's literally the smallest problem the biggest problem is everything else thank you Rob Smith is the commentator on Fox News who said that Trump could win the black vote by five words a school choice for black Americans he is so exactly right

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black Americans he is so exactly right because school choice is the lever that makes everything else happen all right if you get the school choice right then over time you can get good education and the people who could get it out do get out at least you'd have a pathway for that to happen I would argue that black Americans do not have the same opportunity as a lot of other people because their early schools the situation is so bad now you're gonna throw on top of that what about the family situation and here's my take on that you just can't fix that the the family decisions you have decisions to have a nuclear family with a mom and a dad and not get divorced and they both take care of the kids and all that you can't change that so you can want that to be different all you want but it's irrelevant for policy decisions because it's not going to change there's no lever that you can push from

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there's no lever that you can push from government that's going to change those kinds of personal choices so you have to build a system in which you can you can succeed anyway and the the best you can do is school choice because you could have kind of a bad home situation and still have an escape hatch that wouldn't work for everybody you know cuz every situation is different but at least she'd have an escape hatch you know the the kids who really really really wanted to get out could just pay attention in school and they would have a pretty clear path out I think the president could make that claim and say stop looking at your lowest priority Republicans are working on your highest priority and the Democrats are distracting you with shiny objects which are
are and we're not minimizing the need to decrease police violence and you know he's open to any suggestions about somebody piloting something if somebody

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somebody piloting something if somebody wants to try you know a different way of policing just try a small you know don't don't try it in New York City that's the maybe not where you want to experiment with stuff so I think the president has like the strongest strongest argument which is stop working on your smallest priority education is your biggest priority and Republicans are the only ones who offer a school choice and there's no other plan to get there the Democrats are not offering the alternate plan they're not they're offering no plan because if they're not fixing the school situation they're ignoring the the base problem that affects all the other problems you know are you gonna have as many black motorists stopped by police and ultimately beaten up or killed if black income and white income were similar right not as much because as incomes go

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right not as much because as incomes go up crime presumably will go down any any amount of racism or bias that the police might have would be reduced because then they are gonna look and say okay this is a this is a low crime population and in their bias to pattern recognition brains they're gonna say this should go well and then it does so you know some weird questions of the comments there somebody says boomer parents didn't teach kids common sense you know I don't know if it's common sense I have a question that I've wondered for some time I feel that the most useful thing that happened to me as a kid was being forced to work from the moment I could so from I don't know age eleven years old or something if you could do anything useful you know clean something mow something

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clean something mow something shovel something if you could do anything you would get paid for it and you learn this habit of working working equals getting stuff so my internal code my operating system just says if I want something that's a function of the work I do and that's that that's my whole model of life because that's how I was raised now imagine you're a kid who doesn't work and never gets paid for anything and then you go into the world and the first time you're introduced to the idea of working for money because you need it is one you're 21 how does that turn out or 18 if you're not going to college I would think you'd be really handicapped and my my observation is that kids today are far less likely to go out and get a job and those they haven't done that are deeply deeply disadvantaged in my opinion Scott grew up in Indonesia New

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opinion Scott grew up in Indonesia New York no I don't know what that means I grew up in upstate New York if that's what you meant why can't artists a thing clearly well some of it I think is self sorting so the people who decide to become artists for a living probably also know again this is just a generality doesn't apply to every person but don't you think they generally know that they're not gonna make it in stem you know they don't have a their mind is not organized like an engineer or a scientist if it were maybe they'd be attracted to those things because that's just naturally what they were good at but if you're naturally good at creativity and art it makes sense that you'd say well maybe I'll be an artist for a living and then those people just don't have minds that are optimized for decision making likewise the people who have minds that are optimized for

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have minds that are optimized for decision making probably you're not going to be able to create great art probably not gonna make a hit song probably not going to write the novel that you want to read so we have you know different people so some of it is just the people who are not good at analyzing have chosen the profession that optimizes what they are good at just like everybody else so I think it could be that eat vegetable but on top of that if you take a certain path in life you're also not exposed to have a big decisions it is not common sense to know to overlook some costs it is not common sense to know that you can't tell how a leader is doing by looking at the result it's not common sense because your so-called common sense would say well obviously I can look at a president I can see what the outcome is and then I know if it was a good president duh and artists could do that it's just obvious there he is

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do that it's just obvious there he is there's a result it's his fault but if you learned even a little bit about decision-making you would know that the only way you could know if your leader was doing a good job is to have multiple tasks with multiple different leaders in the identical situations who are unaware of the other leaders and are independently making decisions and some of them are better than others and then you have to repeat that for a year after year to find out if it was luck or if one person can repeat good decisions you're so far away from having any data that would tell you a leader is doing a good or bad job that it's you know you can't even walk they're so far away all right
somebody says my friends or artists and musicians or ultra-liberal now I think there also is a a tendency to be liberal and I know exactly what's behind that but let me give you a at least a

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but let me give you a at least a hypothesis so I don't think this explains it all but it might explain some of them my my observation is that conservatives and engineers and scientists have something in common which is they see the world in terms of systems and some people don't see systems they see goals a goal would be everybody is happy and equal that would be a goal a system would be democracy a system would be capitalism but they're very imperfect systems right and they they give you a lot of unequal results but nobody has a better system than either one of those so it's just the best system we have so what are you gonna do so I think a scientist and engineer and a conservative would all look at the the whole system likewise when you're looking at the coronavirus situation do you not correct me if I'm wrong but are is it not the

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me if I'm wrong but are is it not the conservatives we're looking at the whole system they're saying hey it's not just health the economy is part of health the economy is part of defense you can't have a strong defense with a weak economy so I think conservatives are seeing the whole system they're seeing you need free markets you need democracy you need better news than fake news if you have those things in place it's the best you can do if somebody comes up with a better system open to hearing who wouldn't want to hear about a better system of course would you be willing to test a different system to see if it works if you're a conservative why wouldn't you be if it's a small test sure let's just see if it works let's see if the system works artists tend to be a little bit more focused on outcomes a little less feeling that this the system as a machine and they're looking more at the individual I think in

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more at the individual I think in individual situations somebody says Jordan Peterson sees it as different temperaments open or closed could be yeah but I see it as more of you like systems or you don't I would say that the people who who like systems end up being on the same side and it doesn't matter what else is true if you can appreciate a system you're probably on the same side with all the other people who do no matter what their profession is take a look at Kayne which we need to talk about which somehow I forgot to talk about Kayne how was that possible let's talk about Kayne so Kayne my guess is this is without knowing anything about his his process my guess is that he's got systems that allow him to do all the

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systems that allow him to do all the different things he's doing which looks overwhelming if you look at the the output and his creativity and then he's running you know businesses with his his clothing stuff etc he's doing desire and he's building experimental shelters I mean he's all over the place but he seems to make it work don't you think he has a system or probably at a series of systems I guarantee it he has systems now that's what makes him not just an artist but an artist who's commercially successful it's the system part I think that makes a difference now don't you notice that Kanye is a little more open to the Republican worldview he is right it's because of the system part what is Kayne introducing to the political process a system now if you don't see that you're missing the best part Kayne is trying to run as a will say a Christian system candidate in other

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Christian system candidate in other words he's not just bringing himself he's bringing his system his system is some form of Christianity which I think you would probably you know want to open the definition to something spiritual so that it's not limited to a specific religious you know belief but rather a God belief I believe Kayne is trying to bring a new system which is reinvigorating the religious the religious model because it's a good system now I of course have a little problem with that as a major platform because I do like the idea of separating church and state but as soon as I say that in the same sentence without stopping for a comma or a period I must say that our current system even though it looks like we're separating church and state that's sort of a trick the United States is just a

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of a trick the United States is just a Christian country with a bunch of laws that are compatible with Christianity for the most part you know you can argue about devotion but mostly compatible and anything that was not compatible with Christianity is gonna have a hard time becoming a law in our country so as a general not it's not true in every single way but as a generality we've always been a Christian country we just don't you know trying to play it up so much so is Kanye's is Kanye's approach of bringing an entire belief system into government good is a healing is it unified might be religion is one of the few things that does unify in our country and black white brown everything in between tend to be more religious than that so I don't I don't know that Kanye is going to win in 2020 seems like he's gonna have some problems with getting on

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gonna have some problems with getting on all the ballots and everything else but in terms of what he's bringing to the conversation it's always bigger than you think ah and I and other people have speculated this and I think is perfectly safe and true and fair to say which is I don't think he cares if he wins meaning that he has a system in which he can win or he can lose and he will come in ahead if Kanye runs for president and does not win does he come out ahead EA does number one he's immediately in the conversation for 2024 which would be a far more far more potential for him to win so this is just part of the system for 2024 put yourself in the ring see what happens see if you like it see what people say then adjust for the next one so so that's smart what if he runs for

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so so that's smart what if he runs for president doesn't win and also doesn't run in 2024 still smart because he's promoting a new album he has a new album out so the worst case there you know is that everybody finds out Kanye has a new album out and it becomes another number-one album which is likely to happen so he's going to be pushing his spiritual let's say unifying message which I'm all for I think he's I think Kanye would be taking a demotion to be President of the United States honestly because he's already bigger than that I just don't know if he knows it yet yeah as big as Kanye is ego is which is one of the things I like about him he doesn't hide the fact that when things are going well for him he can pump up as he go to enormous standards but at the same time he can bring it down and say hey people were making fun of me for my weight so I you know I got a I got some

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weight so I you know I got a I got some surgery so he can he can expand and he can contract like crazy so he uses it as a tool which is what I advise you you should do there are times when you want to expand your ego so that you can bring your performance up to it and then there are times when it's just socially gross to have your ego out there so you need to shrink it down just to get along with other people I see him doing that so Kanye's bringing something valuable and important you can't lose he doesn't have a loss vector of this I suppose he could say some things about Harriet Tubman that people don't like that'll be misinterpreted let me tell you how I think he was misinterpreted yesterday so Kanye said at a gathering that was described as sort of a campaign stop but maybe it wasn't in South Carolina then he made this weird statement weird according to most people but not me that Harriet Tubman freed the slaves but she only freed them to go

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slaves but she only freed them to go work for white people and everybody said oh I'm out I'm out Kanye's saying incorrect things about history and slavery we've been here before Kanye you do your homework don't you know the Harriet Tubman did in fact risk her life multiple times to to save hundreds of slaves there's no question about it it happened but that has nothing to do with what Kanye said let me tell you how I interpret what he said what I heard him say was the Harriet Tubman freed the slaves but what are they gonna do you're a freed slave what are you gonna do get a job with the white person and then you have the beginning of white supremacy and racial let's say racial inequality that will do that we'll just go through the generations because the person who owns the company the white person who owns the company is going to have richer you know rich or white kids

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have richer you know rich or white kids because he owns the company the person who works for that guy is just a laborer you know that that kids that person's kids are gonna be a big disadvantage so what I heard Kanye say is the ending slavery excellent but all it did was bring you to the next level of problem which is you all have bad jobs working for white people and if you have fast-forward that a few hundred years in the future and might still look like that it might still look like that a few hundred years later and that's where we are so was Kanye even saying anything that was outside of the the most basic belief that pretty much everybody has no no what Kanye said in my mind was perfectly historically accurate and was important and fit the moment and read the room correctly and then he was taken out of context like an idiot because that's what happens so the left is going to hate Kanye

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so the left is going to hate Kanye because he might take votes away from Biden and I think the right appreciates them yeah I've told you many times that communication only works if people understand your intentions if they think your intentions are wrong it doesn't matter what words come out of your mouth they can't nobody could hear it they're only hearing your intentions and then reinterpreting your words to to fit their their assumption about your intentions the one thing everybody is sure of with Kanye what's the one thing you're sure of he's doing it for the right reason were you were the Democrats all Scheuer that Trump was running for president for the right reasons no they worked they felt that baby Trump was had some personal agenda when you see Biden running if you're a Republican do you think that Biden is running for

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do you think that Biden is running for the right reasons I don't I don't even know if he's making his own decisions it seems like there's some kind of you know the coup planners and the deep state and the people who walk power and it just feels like it's money and power and he's sort of a puppet it just feels unclean doesn't it there's just something about the little Biden situation that doesn't feel right now compare how you feel about Biden I don't even know if he's making decisions could bear how you feel about Trump if you're on the left anyway it's people on the right no this is ridiculous because the worst financial thing that Trump could have ever done is run for president I think we know that on the right because it's bad for all of us financially it seems but now compare that to Kanye what is Kanye's intention it looks positive I don't think Kanye's has any negative intentions I don't think anybody owns it

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intentions I don't think anybody owns it I don't think he's beholden to anybody I think he does a genuine completely pure love for the country and a desire to make things better and maybe a little bit of a god complex that you know he's the one who's going to make it happen but you know if you get a leader who doesn't have a little bit of a god complex I don't know how far they're gonna go that really don't having a little bit of a god complex is pretty highly correlated with effective leadership so that's the part I kind of like about Kanye and that's it's honest and it's out there now there'll be lots of conversations but as mental health is his admitted bipolar situation etc and those are good conversations to have I think that's very healthy to have that Alright somebody says can I be your Kanye pundit there's gonna be a lot of them is you

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there's gonna be a lot of them is you can all be Kanye pundits all right somebody says zero interest in his policies because he's not conservative I would wait on that I don't know if you're ever gonna hear any Kanye policies it may be that you'll never hear it it would not surprise me and because this is the way I would run for president if I work on you and I think I think in this one way I feel like I can anticipate him not not in general because he's he's so creative that you just don't know where he's gonna go at any moment but in this this one way I think I can anticipate him and that probably if he gets pushed on policies he's going to describe a system instead so I think he will tell you the system he will use to make decisions as opposed to what that decision will be if he does that then you have a real system the thinking person and that's kind of

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thinking person and that's kind of special so I'd love to see that all right that's all I got for now and I will talk to you later