Episode 1055 Scott Adams: Face Masks, Boycotts, Secret Trump Supporters, Everything Will be Fine

Date: 2020-07-12 | Duration: 54:25

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• Tom Fitton’s mask science tweet

• Executive order on DACA

• OpEd supposedly written by Mueller

• NYT Charles Blow says cancel culture doesn’t exist

• Economist (Robert Reich) supports politically driven boycott

• Why did Amazon issue TikTok memo and then retract it?

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bumbum bumbum bumbum hey everybody come on in it's time for a coffee with scott adams and you found it will it be yeah again the best part of the day for you well you're on a really good record the streak the streak is unbroken every time you do the simultaneous sip it's just a great day why don't we try it again just for scientific reasons and all you need is a cup or mug or a glass of tanker chelators Diana canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better including coronaviruses economy is how you name it it's all better take a sip with me go hmm I have a sort of a

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with me go hmm I have a sort of a personal challenge with myself to see how many times I could read the the sip thing where I say a copper a motor glass before I can actually remember it I'm seeing if I can memorize it without attempting to memorize it in other words I'll just read it every day and so far I've been reading it for what two years and I could not come close to doing it without without reading it a cup or a mug or a glass all right here's what's happening today let me start by saying here's why the world is not going to end may I explain to you why things seem dire but indeed are not very dire at all in fact we probably have never been safer or more stable that seems exactly the opposite of what you see right here's why it looks different to you and why you'll be fine

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fine number one keep in mind that everything you see in the news is attenuated to get your your brain chemistry and to catch it on fire that's how they make money by getting you excited and clicking and talking about stuff so the first thing you need to know is that the news reports an exaggerated version of reality because that's their business model so the first thing you do is say all right it's not all of that it's it's something less than or whatever I'm reading on television that's your first context the second piece of context is some of you might know I I got married yesterday and I was talking with a few people afterwards and I asked this question in a very it was a very small group wedding as you might imagine and I asked some people all right if you were alive during the 60s in other words if you're a certain age or above does today

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you're a certain age or above does today look especially scary compared to the 60s and the only ones of us who would remember the 60s said the same thing no it just looks like the sixties everything will be fine so the one thing you don't know if you're a youngish is that this just looks a lot like something that's happened before that also didn't ruin the country in fact the the so-called hippies who were protesting against the government are now literally part of the government they're there in Congress and everything worked out fine so that's the second piece of context the the next thing you need to not worry about is the protesters themselves so you saw that the looting and the protests and the violence and it looked like it was all going to be the Joker movie all over again here's why it's not number one the news exaggerated all of the problems that caused the

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all of the problems that caused the riots would it be fair to say that the fake news caused the protests I would say so I would say it's not it's not police violence that caused it because the data on police violence just and show the problem that they're protesting even if even if the data did show that the black lives matter protests were based on data it would still be their smallest problem do you get that if everything they believed about the police and killing black people if it were all true and statistically it's just not if it were true it would still be their smallest problem and if you don't get that they're making the biggest protests and making the most noise about their smallest problem then you don't really understand what's going on because they're not really complaining about the problem there's got to be a bigger

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problem there's got to be a bigger agenda or some people are just worked up by the news some people believe that there is a real problem it's probably a variety of reasons but here's the thing that's important and this this will scare you at the same time it might relax you so you're gonna have both feelings here it comes have you noticed that the news on both the left and the right stopped covering the protests meaning that they don't really show video night after night of protesters and they could because if you're on social media you know that the protests are happening they're happening I think every night and they're happening in multiple places do you see coverage of it anymore no you don't why ask yourself why there's a big domestic news story I mean as big as it could be it's a big big big domestic story why why is it not being covered at

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story why why is it not being covered at least visually and video wise from either the left or the right why is that let me tell you the answer the answer is that the news industry collectively for whatever reason I don't know if the government that talked to them that's possible the government might have said you know if you if you just cover it differently you could tamp down the temperature that would be helpful possible but I don't think so because I can't see CNN and MSNBC doing anything that the administration wants even if they had a good reason I think they were just saying now we're the news we'll do what we want to do freedom of speech freedom of the press we don't take our instructions from the administration so it seems to me that both the left and right for different reasons perhaps have decided to make the protests go away and they can do it do you know how they do it by not covering it if the news doesn't cover the protests or just sort

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doesn't cover the protests or just sort of references them with them without wall-to-wall video coverage of bad behavior and good behavior if they don't cover it it's going to kind of go away because the point of the protests are attention and if the news media decides collectively to remove attention it's going to drain the energy out of it so you've got a few things going one is that there was a lot of energy built up because of the shutdown and there were not many alternative uses for your time so I would have to assume that some percentage of the protesters and probably a pretty big percentage maybe a third wouldn't have been able to do what they did if they had to get up and go to a job in the morning or you know there were otherwise at school or occupied in some other way so it's probably at least one-third bigger than it would be just because people are not busy it's probably another third bigger than it

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probably another third bigger than it needs to be just because there was a lot of energy built up and finally the weather was good and it was something to do and there's probably about a third of the energy the other the last third is because the fake news created something out of nothing and got people all worked up and now it seems that the fake news has decided that it really messed up my suspicion is that CNN and MSNBC you know that the left-leaning news realizes that the longer the protests go on the it is for Trump now you could you could debate that I think it would be fair to debate it because even Trump supporters say things such as hey he's not doing enough why doesn't he do more but that's really easy to frame that away and there's plenty of time before the election the president could simply say and it would be straight up correct you just couldn't argue with the facts I have offered all of the resources and

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have offered all of the resources and military whatever you need you just had to say yes it's the mayor's decision they just had to say yes and we can stop the violence tomorrow from the federal with the federal resources so I think that it would be really easy for the president to say you see all these protests that are scaring you to death and ruining the economy that's what you get if Biden is elected and I would have stopped it if these Democrat mayors and that allowed me they have allowed me to do it so then here's the last part that I think is the most important part there's always this feeling of a slippery slope if things are going in one direction they'll just keep going until you know there's destruction but have you noticed that the protests have just stopped cold at the suburbs oh they tried they tried right there was a little bit of attempt to move the protests into the suburbs how'd that

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protests into the suburbs how'd that work out well the first thing the first problem is it's not interesting it is not interesting to have a protest in the suburbs it's just not interesting it's not interesting visually it's not interesting for the protesters but here's the worst problem if they start protesting individuals homes like the McCluskey's the couple had the guns and there was a warrant for their I guess there was a warrant out for them I guess so
so that's a separate story that I think they're being treated probably unfairly but we'll say it I don't think that this can
can and two residential areas outside of the city because number one they're armed to the teeth number two it looks really different doesn't it just think how you'd imagine it if you see protesters knocking a storefront window down here's

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knocking a storefront window down here's the calculation you do in your head well they've got insurance all right well they got insurance it's a business you don't feel the same about a business even though every business has real people behind it we're really losing a lot but it still seems like a property crime like you you think of it more that way than you do about the the people who are involved you think to yourself well they could probably get other jobs etc but if you saw like we did a crowd around the McCluskey's house which wasn't the best example because they had sort of a mansion so that they don't quite get the sympathy then you again if you were just a normal suburban home but if you saw protests assaulting a normal suburban home let's say just because they had a trump site in law just to make an example if you saw that that would be the end of the protests so there is a natural limit to how far they can go

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can go and they've already reached it in terms of you know not moving into the suburbs they really can't the suburbs are too well-armed too willing to use them and there would be too much sympathy for the for the civilians in this case so don't worry so much I don't think that there's anything that could make our current to protest situations any worse than the 60s and the country literally just shrugged it off if you didn't live through the sixties you don't know how pervasive it was it was just protests protests protests the government is evil must be replaced and the country shrugged it off this is like that the protests anyway the country will actually just shrug it off and I would say also that if we had not had that weird coincidence that you had to wear a mask because a coronavirus at the same time the protesters wanted to

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the same time the protesters wanted to wear some asks if you know what I mean so except for that little weird coincidence which won't last forever I mean that's won't last forever so the protest will die out they have a natural life and I think that it's already on the on the downside big news president Trump wore a mask to visit Walter Reed and the press pool got some good video of it now if you haven't seen the video or the photographs it's really kind of it's the most awesomely scary looking thing you've ever seen in your life it makes you glad they're on our side because the president is at Walter Reed it's only it's a military hospital and he's got the it looks like the top generals and admirals behind him and they've all got these dark United States masts though frankly it looked pretty cool the and when you see them walking it looks like a movie it just looks like a movie set I mean it looks like the coolest movie that you haven't yet seen now one of the things that the president

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now one of the things that the president said that everybody laughed at was he had when he was talking about mass some time ago he said that when he tried went on that people told him he looked good at his mask now when you heard that you laughed right it's like okay that's just that's such a typical trumpism that people tell me I look better in my mask it's just so perfectly what he would say but that I saw him in his mask he actually looks good but that's actually literally true that the bat that the mask as a as a fashion look it actually made him look powerful I made him look younger right because if you hide this part of your face you look younger if you have hair he has hair so so you look younger you look more powerful you looked you looked I guess powerful I would just use that word twice because that's what it looked like it was super powerful look especially with the generals behind

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with the generals behind so there'll be a lot of jabbering about that now at the same time do you know tom Fitton from judicial watch you see him a lot on fox news etc and he had this tweet which I take objection to he said again there is no science to support wearing a mask outside of a healthcare setting right now I'm gonna talk about the exact wording of this so let me read it again so this is Tom Fenton you know I'm from TV you know that he's an attorney so that's the first thing to keep in mind that attorneys are very careful with language some will automatically right so here he is being careful with his language because he can and in you know he has those skills and he says again there's no science to support wearing a mask outside of a healthcare setting is that true let me see in the comments how many of

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let me see in the comments how many of you think that's true that there's no science to support wearing a mask outside of a healthcare setting how many say that is true because it's a very lawyerly thing to say because I don't believe there's science that has directly tested the corona virus in the United States with a variety of masks so I'm sitting I'm saying number of people saying is true so I think it's I believe that it's technically true I won't even say technically true it's true this science has not done a gold standard set of tests clinical trials with controls and and peer review and then have people repeat the study to get to the point of knowledge so tom Fitton is completely correct if this is what he means that it has not been demonstrated

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means that it has not been demonstrated to the highest level of scientific scrutiny everybody agrees with that right now well but the way he says it there's no science to support wearing the mask outside of healthcare to which I say what does it mean that there's no science to support it I will give you the following analogy and I've told you that analogies do not persuade but they can they can they can introduce an idea very effectively so the next thing I say will not be persuasion I'm just describing an idea using an analogy so yesterday somebody said to me a a let's say a mask the skeptic said to me yesterday you know scientists say they're wearing especially these cloth masks the ones that are not the hospital-grade you said that using those cloth mask to stop a

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that using those cloth mask to stop a virus which is so small would be like using a chain-link fence to stop a flea and I thought that's a really good analogy right because you can see the chain-link fence if you're looking at it it's mostly open holes like that the amount of space that's covered by you know one of the wires and the chain-link fence is very small compared to the total mass so that flea goes right through it so that's a pretty good point right if the virus is that small and science confirms we do know that how small the virus is we do know how many openings are are in a cloth mask and you do know that the virus is much smaller than those big ol openings and that mask so that's all you need to know right so here's how I answered it I said but you know the virus doesn't travel on its own the the virus travels on your the water

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the the virus travels on your the water droplets the Cabana your math you all know that's true right it's not like you're shooting viruses out of your mouth you're shooting moisture and in your mouth in in writing on that moisture can be viruses so here's what I said to the flea and the chain link now it's more like this there is a flea and there is a chain-link fence that part of your analogy is correct but the flea is on a dog and the dog can't get through the fence and the flea isn't going to leave the dog in my analogy right the dog can bump against such fences many times as it wants in this case the dog is the water drop up if the water droplet can't get through and the virus is on the water droplet it's at least going to slow it down right now there may be other considerations as well but the basic idea is that the people who think

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basic idea is that the people who think that masks are not supported by science well I would say that those facts alone support it by science no is that a judgement call it did would you agree with me that this statement is true if science tells us the the masks have these big holes the virus is so small little go through but it has to ride on a water droplet which is too big to get through the mask you know in an efficient way obviously some of it can come out around the sides but it doesn't project as far now everything I just said is from science right science has told us it travels on the water droplet all everything I just said would you say that they're there for the science doesn't support using masks well it doesn't prove it it doesn't prove it but does it support it so what I said to Tom

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does it support it so what I said to Tom fitness comment is that if if science doesn't prove it either way science isn't helping right science doesn't tell you it doesn't work science doesn't tell you it does work science does tell you there are really good reasons to suspect it might now if science can't tell you yes or no but it does tell you quite clearly we don't know but given these variables is certainly seems like it we should make a difference and on top of that nearly universal medical professional agreement that yes we don't have scientific proof but what we do know strongly suggests it should make a difference especially there seems to be some evidence that countries that use masks more are getting a better result so I think is really dangerous for a lawyer to speak in lawyerly terms about medical things because it could easily

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medical things because it could easily lead you in the wrong direction to make a decision about yourself even if the lawyer is completely correct so that's that's the danger of lawyers talking about medical stuff because lawyers know how to say things that are completely correct but might not be the thing you need to hear all right so I'm very concerned about that kind of a message because I think people read it as as mass don't work and this sentence does not say that let me read it again again there's no science to support wearing a mask outside of a healthcare setting true in terms of confirmed you know studies that can be repeated but very unusual for risk management president has apparently said to I don't tell the Mundo or somebody that he is preparing an executive order on daca that's daca is the people who came here as children

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is the people who came here as children most of them are older now but they've lived and grown up as Americans but just not technically legally so that's you know one of several immigration related topics is how do you deal with that group the president is is hinting that he's going to have some kind of a path to citizenship now here's the interesting thing about that probably most people agree that they should have a path to citizenship probably I mean there's there probably enough Republicans who say yeah you know that if they grew up here you can't you can't penalize a child who was brought as a child it just doesn't seem it violates our sense of right and wrong but at the same token you don't want to create a precedent because if you reward people from coming for coming into the country illegally as Reigate did when he had some kind of amnesty you get more of it we know that there's no doubt about it but of course if you didn't have a border fence you'd get more of it anyway

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border fence you'd get more of it anyway I suppose here's what we don't know about that we don't know if the president is going to put some kind of conditions on these that are not obvious so for example and this is not based on any inside knowledge or anything I'm just going to toss this out to keep you open-minded until we know what that's about suppose the president said yes I would like to make them all citizens with a special I'm not sure if this is legal but with some kind of a special requirement that they not have voting rights for five years or something yeah I don't know is that even legal could you do that it might be unconstitutional or let's say that he says the executive order is that daca can be a path to citizenship only under the following conditions let me say this suppose he

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conditions let me say this suppose he said daca is approved under the following conditions that the border the border wall is funded he could do that right an executive order correct me if I'm wrong can in an executive order not have a condition built into it such that he would say daca path the citizenship totally approved under this one condition and what is that one condition I'm just speaking hypothetically suppose he said the condition is we have to have a functioning border wall or it has to be funded to build the border wall how would you feel then because he wouldn't be saying that they have a path he'd be saying they have a path if this other thing happens because you don't want to have a condition where you you incentivize people to come in illegally if you don't have a way to stop it from happening in the future such as a wall now I don't know that the president has some kind of

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know that the president has some kind of a plan like that where there's a condition in it or a poison pill it could be a trick it could be something he's put a poison pill in it so the Democrats will reject it and then he can say when he just as he's running for president hey you know you rejected my daca plan so we don't know what he's up to you but I feel like there's gonna be a surprise in that somewhere there's a video that I think came from January in which Biden when he was still running he's running for president and in January and he was talking to an audience and I couldn't believe my ears because I thought what year did this happen and then you see the Biden for president signs and I'm thinking this happened this year Biden said this this year and he didn't get cancelled and what he was saying to the what looked like mostly white audience he said our culture is not imported from some African nation and they were not to

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some African nation and they were not to say that our culture is not supported doesn't come from some Asian nation it's a it's a European culture and I thought to myself if a Republican said that that would be the end of their career and I look at this and I think do we just ignore this because the whole point is that culture is sort of a code word for racists right oh you say culture but you really mean brown people don't you I mean really don't you that's what people say about the Republicans and I would say having met lots of Republicans that that they have a variety of reasons just like any big red group they have a variety of reasons why they would want immigration halted but a lot more of a has to do with culture that it has to do with ethnicity there's some small people a small percentage of people who do care about ethnicity and immigration but most people as far

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and immigration but most people as far as I can tell you know I'm not a Republican but I talked to a lot of them it does seem like they're mostly just interested in the culture part so they wouldn't care so much where you came from as long as when you got here you played by the same rules and didn't want to turn it into Sharia law or whatever whatever else so the fact that Biden doesn't get canceled if that is just mind boggling like there's just no way a Republican could have said those same words the fascinating Boris Johnson has announced that they're looking for data scientists to run a UK government Analysis Unit what that's right so Johnson is setting up some kind of they refer to it as like a skunkworks so it looks like it's not clear if it'll be part of the government or a quasi part of the government or an independent entity that advises the government but it'll have some independence whatever independence you get as a quote skunk

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independence you get as a quote skunk works and apparently it's to put people who know how to look at data in one place so that you can get government decisions that are backed by people who know how to look at data now how important would that be in the United States well we just have this whole conversation about masks wouldn't you like the data organization of the United States to say okay okay you're all arguing about whether masks work here's the analysis this is the best we know and what do you like to have seen that all the way through the coronavirus situation you'd like to know that if somebody asserted a fact or a statistic that there was some other skunkworks would say oh hold on just a minute I don't think you're quite looking at that right because you're forgetting this you forgot that now at the moment it feels like there are some individuals doing that on Twitter in the United States you know Nate Silver for example

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States you know Nate Silver for example you'll see him weighing in on that sort of thing but as some people noticed yeah and I see you some people in noting in the comments that just days ago I had suggested that the United States needs exactly this now I refer to it as maybe it needs to be a cabinet position but that wasn't an important part it just needs to be an entity of people who know how to analyze things because the public does not but the worst situation is that the public doesn't know how to analyze things but they think they do that's the problem if the public knew they didn't know how to analyze things correctly it wouldn't be that much of a problem they'd say well I don't know I can't tell what's going on it's the fact they're so certain and certain in different directions that causes all our problems alright so yes you're wondering if the UK watches my

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you're wondering if the UK watches my periscopes because it would be a gigantic coincidence but could be a coincidence if I had to guess you know pretty high chances just a coincidence but what are the odds that I would suggest this exact idea like a week before it appears in the paper that the UK is thinking of this idea could it be could it be this someone has watched this periscope I do have I do have reason to believe that the government of the UK or at least some members of it do watch this periscope so I don't know if that's where the idea came from but I do know there's a connection robert muller wrote an op-ed no we didn't
that's what the news is trying to tell you there's a there's an op-ed with Robert Moeller's name on it so it's being reported that robert muller wrote an op-ed no he didn't I don't know who

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an op-ed no he didn't I don't know who wrote it I don't know who wrote it but we saw robert muller testifying he's not writing any he's not writing any offense all right I mean I don't want to be unkind but we saw him operating he's not sitting down and writing any op eds that's just I just don't believe that's happening so somebody wrote it up and didn't asked him to sign it here's one of the just I don't even know what to say about this you every now and then you'll see a pundit with an opinion that's so mind-blowing Lee I don't know I'll just tell you what it is and you can make up your own mind so this is a journalist writer charles below who I believe is a New York Times guy now I've been following him for a long time you know he's often appears on TV as a pundit etc and he has some of the worst

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pundit etc and he has some of the worst takes I've ever seen fairly consistently if you want like a bad take on something well he's your guy but this one is just Wow and he was tweeting today or maybe it was yesterday that canceled culture doesn't exist that's right a major writer for The New York Times is tweeting in all capitals the canceled culture does not exist what he says is that no no it's not canceled culture it's just you know well-off people who don't want to be criticized does that take sound like the world you live in where canceled culture doesn't actually exist it's simply that if you do something bad in public and people decide to punish you for it by not shopping or not promoting for you or whatever that there's nothing there's

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whatever that there's nothing there's nothing to note there that's just the way the world works if you do bad things and people know it consequences will happen so what do you think of his brilliant take the canceled culture doesn't work because if people do real problems and they get called out for it well that's the way it's supposed to work right well as I tweeted this morning pretty much I think every time that somebody tried to cancel me and have been quite a few times over the years that you know mobs online mobs have come after me every time it was a misinterpretation of something I sent not sometimes not once every time a hundred percent of the time that people have come after me is for one of these two things I misinterpreted something you said often because somebody else misinterpreted it and they only read the misinterpretation so it's

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only read the misinterpretation so it's either a misinterpretation of something I said that I wouldn't be canceled for if it was correctly understood or simpler for being associated with saying good things about the President Trump that's it so those are the two things that people have consistently tried to cancel me for including yesterday I'm not talking about something like historical thing I'm talking about yesterday somebody tweeted that maybe nobody should read Dilbert books no actually I take that back and I said it happened once yesterday I think it happened more like three or four times yesterday just to me I'm not talking about three or four movements but rather three or four public individuals on Twitter suggested in public that people boycott me now what did I do to earn a boycott was it my bad behavior no no it wasn't my bad behavior

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wasn't my bad behavior it was misinterpreting what I'm saying and just being associated with liking one of the political one of the political candidates liking not everything that he does I'm very clear about that I don't like everything Trump does and everything he might ever do in the future I like certain things he does especially in the persuasion realm so I'm getting I'm on the on the edge of cancellation every day and it has nothing to do with me bad behavior nothing and fact I don't even have a motive for bad behavior like everything that I've been trying to do publicly for the last several years is only has the purpose of being a public good because that's sort of the only way I get a payoff my only way I get a payoff is if I can produce a public good I don't really have a business model or making people angry or unhappy or worse off somehow makes money or yeah how would that work I don't even know how you do that so and then as was

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know how you do that so and then as was said in the comments the CEO of Goya foods what exactly was his criminal act that caused the boycott what exactly did he do wrong Charles blow besides be polite and considerate to the President of the United States while he had been invited to the White House if you can't be polite to the President of the United States no matter the party when you're on the White House grounds and you've been invited come on that Charles blow would say that guy should get canceled and boycott it I'm assuming boycotting and cancelling or sort of in the same same family really would he'd be okay with that now the great thing of course most of you know is that the Goya products have sold out in a lot of grocery stores have you seen the photos there you know you'll see it's just a big empty shelf where all the Goya products are now I - the next time I go to the store we'll look for

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time I go to the store we'll look for them I don't literally didn't know they existed but now it's one of the most famous brands in the country isn't that cool how do you like the fact that Goa was sort of a I don't know a specialty brand a week ago and now it's a now it's a national brand international outside now what the Conservatives have done for going up which is support basically just support somebody who supported the president even though it's somebody who would have supported Obama and I think did in terms of being polite and you know just being a good citizen etc so we love the CEO of Goya but you can't always rescue people unless they happen to be a CEO of a company that makes a product that you might want to buy so it's a very it was a special case where the public could weigh in directly and fix it but if let's say if some individual loses their job well what can you do

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loses their job well what can you do about that and I'm wondering if so there are two ways to fight to cancel culture and I you know nothing lasts forever so even the cancel culture will transform to some other some other thing eventually but while we're dealing with it it seems there are two ways to go why didn't one is to cancel back as hard as you can until you have mutually assured destruction but that's not ideal right if you could have some other better way than a mutually assured destruction that would be preferred maybe maybe the other way is that anybody who gets cancelled gets rich suppose you did that suppose getting cancelled made you rich or at least better off so let's say if it's an individual who loses their job the Conservatives immediately contact that person if they're in the area and say hey put in your resume I'd like I'd like to take a look so suppose you could

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like to take a look so suppose you could get a promotion or at least you know a good other job if you got cancelled if you make products maybe you could sell more of them but you could become more famous so I would look for look for increasing ways that people who are unfairly cancelled could come out ahead and then cancelling canceling doesn't work after that you know the the Goya situation has got to put in the minds of the counselors wait a minute I wasn't planning on making Goya ranch that wasn't the plan I saw that Robert Reich was right was in favor of the boycott of Goya and I thought what the hell happened to that guy how could you be an economist like a public economist meaning that you have a public will say interest and and influence upon how could you be you know an economist and ever be in favor of a boycott of an American company because

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boycott of an American company because of the political just normal political leaning of the CEO how in the world can you justify that as an economist it just feels crazy but maybe there's some argument there let's see I did a little online poll and I asked for Trump supporters only I said have they ever lied about their support of the president either a direct lie or a lie by omission and last I checked there were hundreds and hundreds of responses and approximately last I checked 60% of the people answering said that they had lied about their support of the president now that could be a lie by omission you know they just stay silent during the conversation or whatever but let me ask you this do you think you've ever seen a number like that before 60% of the supporters of a sitting

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60% of the supporters of a sitting president are unwilling to say it even to coworkers have you ever seen anything like that before
what are the odds that the polls are correct I feel very low you know and the setup here seems unmistakable if it turns out that this is another 2016 and that there were really a lot of hidden Trump supporters which I believe is a certainty we don't know how big it is but it's a certainty that it exists I would say just to put some numbers on it you know if the polls are let's say I don't know twelve points up are down or ten points apart Biden is leading Trump on a national basis I would say that you could guarantee that at least 2% or you know two basis points of the ten points you can guarantee that at least two of the ten or because people

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least two of the ten or because people are lying but it could be a lot more it could be a lot more now keep in mind that if there's a ten point justjust think about this there's a ten point difference between Biden and Trump how much does Trump have to make up to be tied is it ten points no it's not Trump only has to make up half the this difference because if half of the people go from Biden to Trump he's tied if he gets half of them right did I do that right I'm not saying that wrong am I so it looks like there's this big difference but I would say he only needs to close the gap of baby five and two or three is just already in his pocket he's probably two points away from a lead or something like that so my guess is he's a little bit behind

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so my guess is he's a little bit behind nationally it only matters what the battleground states are I don't know if he's a little bit behind battles battleground states a little harder to tell but I feel like it's really close is my guess and there's a lot of time to go all right
Amazon had this weird situation yesterday I think it was where they put out a company-wide memo and then they retracted it saying it was put out in error now ask me who would put out this particular message in error like it's a weird error and and the the message that was in error was that employees of Amazon needed to take the tic-tock app off their phones but they could still use it on other devices and then they withdrew that now the the reason for that was the tick tock is a Chinese

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that was the tick tock is a Chinese company the Chinese government has a back door to it of course which means that they could use it to massively spy and/or collect data about Americans and we assume that they are why did the Amazon to have that company memo and then pull it back without much explanation here's what I think I don't know this for sure just to guess I think it's a certainty that our government will ban tik-tok in this country when do you say because India has already done it and nobody is arguing that India got it wrong I don't believe there's anybody except baby China who is saying India India how could you be so racist to block a Chinese app that was doing nothing to nobody nobody's saying that right unless I'm missing it but I believe everybody just said well it's about time

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about time yeah that was exactly the right thing to do so if your Amazon do you think you already have some insight where the US government is going to go and I think the answer is yeah you probably have some insight on that there's probably somebody involved with Amazon who is also involved with the government decision about tick-tock almost certainly it's a small world than the you know at that level of knowledge because you'd have to be technically and security wise I mean you'd have to have a lot of knowledge to be to really weigh in on tick-tock at a technical level Amazon might just know more than we do they just might maybe they were just trying to get ahead of it all right and that is about what I have for you I will give you a little update so I did get married yesterday to the lovely and beautiful Christina now Christina Evans

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beautiful Christina now Christina Evans and I gotta tell you getting married in the age of coronavirus is really complicated it's really complicated even even little stuff like getting a marriage license not so easy the places are closed so there are a lot of steps that I'll tell you your government does not make it easy to do anything anyway just looking at your your comments so Navarro is on Maria but Romo discussing it somebody says India and China just had a border battle yeah I don't think that's gonna get any control I think the border battles between India and China are two countries that know they can't have or they just can't you know India and China just can't have a war and they know it so I wouldn't be surprised if you have infinite you know

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surprised if you have infinite you know skirmishes but full-out war I don't think I don't see it couldn't vpns get around the block it's a good question if you had a VPN on your phone could you use the tic-tock app anyway maybe um thank you to all of you were giving congratulations
yeah Tucker Carlson's head writer was fired for for some comments he made you know and I mean this I think I'm gonna have to go ahead and write up the digital Bill of Rights but one of one of the items on the so-called digital Bill of Rights that I've proposed should exist but doesn't exist would be that you could not lose your job or get canceled for something you did in an anonymous account that later got uncovered because the things that people say anonymously are closer to the things

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say anonymously are closer to the things they might say behind closed doors which are almost you know almost universally in appropriated in public so if you're the one who took the context into the wrong context I think the person who uncovers that has to take the responsibility and I'm not saying that therefore I'm not making any comment about Tucker's writer so this isn't about any individual I'm saying that as a general statement you should be allowed to say awful things in private you should be allowed to say awful things under an anonymous account as long as you mean them you know it could be a joke that would be fine too as long as you're someplace where anonymous accounts are okay you know it's an acceptable standard I think the people should have the right to act grotesquely in private while not being grotesque in any kind of professional or public way and that it

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professional or public way and that it should be fine the the myth that I I do not accept do not accept is that there are some people who don't say bad things in private I just don't accept that I believe that everybody's got some bad thoughts that if you dug down a little bit you'd find something you didn't like one of the reasons that I object strenuously to cancelling people just by association hey you took a picture with this person so you're canceling or you're in the same group with this person so you're canceled or you talk to them or you supported them on this one issue so you're cancelled there's nothing more important than allowing people to have whatever associations they want because the assumption about the Association is somehow somehow you pick up all the bad qualities of the person you're with well it doesn't work that way if I spend time

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it doesn't work that way if I spend time with a bad person am i likely to become more bad or is the other person likely to become more good right I'd like to think that that I have a good influence on people as opposed to them turning me to the dark side which hasn't happened yet so yeah yeah like peered Alecto I think that as long as anonymous accounts are a thing in other words all the blame you say it this way as long as there can be anonymous accounts as long as it's a thing and society agrees it can be a thing you should never be able to be cancelled if you get uncovered in your personal your private account it just shouldn't be a thing all right do I support it fakery I don't think it's fakery to have a anonymous account because you're being clear about what you're doing in a sense

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so everyone will have an anonymous account yeah I mean that doesn't change the fact that platform to still have standards so if you're an anonymous account you say something terrible Twitter can still kick you off I don't have a big problem with that if it's if it's so bad you know there's something some limit all right I will we see more of beautiful Christina someone else you just might well if you if you mean more of her she might be making some more piano videos for example she's got her pen pretty much nailed now which is pretty hard if you if anybody's a musician you know how hard that is alright that's enough for now and I will talk to you tomorrow