Episode 1043 Scott Adams: Secondary Simultaneous Sip, This Time With Better Anger Management

Date: 2020-06-30 | Duration: 53:12

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• I endorse Joe Biden…for my personal safety

• Democrat party tweets that Mount Rushmore is racist

• The government is whomever uses the most force

• Capitalism has flaws…but it’s better than the alternatives

• Tik Tok’s future

• Entire Daily Beast story hit piece on Van Jones was made up

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well I think we should try it again this time differently and better because if you tried to join me in the first two failed attempts at the simultaneous hip and coffee with Scott Adams you know it didn't go well well I'll explain that but some of you may be prepared for the simultaneous if maybe you already had it maybe you'd like to do another one but it happens right now and all you need is the camera Margaret glanced at ankor challengers die the Kantian jerker flask a vessel of any kind yes I'm doing this for all of the OCD people who are watching this I include myself in that category in this context sometimes you just need your routines and I know you wouldn't feel the same if I didn't come back and finish this and so I invite you to enjoy the dopamine the end of the day the thing that makes everything better the second simultaneous it may be the

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the second simultaneous it may be the first for you go so here's a little lesson in anger management I aborted by first couple attempts there well actually the second attempt because my my anger overwhelmed to me now what I was angry at you have no idea because it wouldn't be obvious from what you were watching so I wasn't angry that my technology wasn't working because I had a guest on I was angry at myself because I have this problem with calendars you know what I say I have a problem with calendars I mean it's one of the biggest problems in my life literally and I would love to know if there's anybody else in the world who has this problem and in general I have a problem with time

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problem with time if you give me your phone number out loud and you say a bla bla bla bla bla I can hear the numbers but I don't have a sense of what order they came in if you say it quickly so I've always had sort of an audio let's say issue with time I hear things but out of order and likewise when I read somebody noticed once that I don't read sentences necessarily from left to right which is true I kind of look at them left to right right the left middle lab word because things arrive and then I just reorganize them into why should have been the order they they they should have been so if that sounds like dyslexia that's what I call us sometimes but it applies to it applies to all things calendars and I've gets this weird thing where I could look at a calendar for my day and it'll be just a square box for the day and there'll be

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square box for the day and there'll be nothing written in there no appointments whatsoever it'll say ah I've got nothing on my calendar and then somebody will say like today hey what about this appointment where are you or why are you on this phone call and I'll think I just looked at the calendar there's nothing on my calendar and then I'll pick up the calendar and I'll look at it and there it is it will just just be there whatever so clearly wasn't there the last time I looked and sometimes it might be because my calendar isn't sinking sometimes I'm crazy sometimes I have a false memory of looking I don't know maybe it's some variety of things but it is so consistent that it's like a glitch in the matrix you know it's like my simulation isn't working one of my being jobs every time I make a comic and Dilbert comic I have to put the date in it so I have to figure out what date its gonna run in the future and then write

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gonna run in the future and then write down the correct date how often do you think I can look at what my comic is do I mean it's just there's a that says it's do what the state and then just write the date of the comic pretty easy right here's the date they just write it down how often do you think I'd do that wrong after 30 years of practicing every day about 80% of the time wrong about 80% of the time I can't write down a date or look at it and look at the right day of the week and translated my head to what I need so I'd be really interested if anybody has a a calendar specific problem that doesn't seem to be affecting any other part of your life because they're you know I can do pretty much any other complicated task effortlessly just effortlessly and somebody's saying excessive weed now I

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somebody's saying excessive weed now I would say the same thing except it's always been the case so it's not something that happened you know when I discovered marijuana in college it was a you know continuous lifetime thing anyway there's nothing to do with anything let's talk about the news so the story about Trump and whether or not he he was briefed on the Russian bounty story that they were putting a bounty on Afghans killing American soldiers and here's the thing this story was so important that it's the national headline and everybody agrees my god if this is true it's a gigantic thing right everybody agrees that there's nobody who's saying no no no that wouldn't be a big deal is there anybody says that nobody but yet it's such a big deal that the briefers never thought to mention it to the president apparently the claim is

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to the president apparently the claim is that it's in it's in the briefings but so buried in so many briefings that it took a while to even find out it existed so what exactly is going on that we think this is a really big story but the people who briefed the president didn't think to mention it aloud knowing that he doesn't read the you know the detailed reports he would depend on them to tell him what's important and that never came up that never came up right there's something wrong now could it be that the reason it didn't rise to that level of importance with the people who actually understand how the world works the people briefing the president could it be that this is fairly routine do you don't I mean how unordinary is it for

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don't I mean how unordinary is it for some country to be paying the bad guys in some other group to kill the people that you want influence in this group how an ordinary is that because it might be just so routine and so ever-present it's entirely possible that the people briefing the president it just didn't seem like it was a top ten concerned because it doesn't matter why somebody's trying to kill you if you're in Afghanistan and then you're in the military you're kind of looking for people to try to kill you all the time anyway I do they need a reason does anybody does anybody think who thinks that you have to be bribed if you're an Afghan you know a fighter who thinks you have to be bribed to kill Americans well I wasn't thinking of killing Americans but now that you've given me all these excellent Russian roubles or whatever they are now I'm

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roubles or whatever they are now I'm thinking of as suddenly maybe so cNN has trotted Carl Bernstein and again to to say that crazy stuff you know mind-reading stuff like Trump was seeking putin's approval trump is always seeking putin's approval why is Trump always seeking Putin's approval to which I say
isn't that like reading his mind we know what Trump does that I mean the things we can observe we know for example that he has been soft on Putin in public other times he's been you know quite hard in terms of sanctions and whatnot so we see what he does but to then translate that into he's seeking Putin's approval and I think how dumb our CNN viewers that they think they need to

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viewers that they think they need to turn on the TV to see Carl Bernstein the worse than Watergate guy comment on his mind-reading skills that have been wrong every time so far it's just weird that this is even on television and then it works like apparently it works well enough that they bring him back you must be popular to their audience but that of course the the thing I always tease them about is that you only bring Carl Bernstein odd if the whole point of it is to get him to say whatever you're talking about is worse than Watergate it's like the whole game because it's not like he's he's the the natural person that you would be inviting God for any other reason if he didn't have the ability to say yes it's worse than Watergate if you took that away from him he would never be on TV so it's obvious that that's the you know the driving thing Carl you know do some articles on this and we'll give it about three interviews about the third time heinous

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interviews about the third time heinous heinous were the worse than Watergate that's going to be the highlight clip all right so I told you in my aborted periscope that I've decided to endorse Joe Biden but only to protect protect myself from our racist Democrats will talk about racist Democrats in a moment a little bit more but you may recognize this maneuver from 2016 what I said that I was going to endorse Hillary Clinton but only for my safety I was completely serious meaning that it actually kept me safe I was able to say hey I endorse Hillary what are you coming after me for it's kind of confusing so I am going to literally endorse Joe Biden I don't expect this

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endorse Joe Biden I don't expect this will have any influence on anybody's votes why does anybody care about anybody else endorse is anyway what it was that even a thing and you know I don't vote yeah I'm not a member of any political party don't plan to me and I don't plan to vote because it biases me but if it makes me safer you know during this violent revolution that we seem to be see seeing here I endorse Joe Biden so let me let me just run this by you angry mob comes to my house and I say why are you here bothering me I endorse Joe Biden and they say did you I don't think you did you're always saying good things about Trump I sent check my Twitter there it is boom somebody says coward in all caps you

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somebody says coward in all caps you know something my mother taught me which is there was a it's an old saying you know there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity I would rather be smart and alive than very brave and stupid and dumb you know we're dead so we all get to choose all right so the Dems the Democratic Party tweeted the mount Mount Rushmore was a symbol of white supremacy and here's the thing are they wrong right I mean George Washington you know you they love you George Washington and you want to keep your your dollar bills and your quarters and your Washington DC and all that sorry I certainly understand but yeah it's hard to escape the fact that you own slaves it's just the fact so you know I can criticize a lot of things but I can't really criticize

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things but I can't really criticize someone who doesn't want to be surrounded by your reminders of slavery it's not the most unreasonable thing even though it's terribly impractical to change things and it makes people upset at the same time you know there are not many there aren't that many cases where you can so easily see the other side yeah this is one where you can send yourself I totally get why people say that's too far George Washington's special don't go that far you know it's complicated you know people weren't perfect back there and it has to be viewed through the lens of history I totally get that that's a completely reasonable argument I don't disagree with it a bit but I completely agree with the people who say you know I don't think you'd like this because I wouldn't so it could definitely see both sides so I think that's just a question of power you know

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that's just a question of power you know work wherever the power is exerted it will it will determine the outcome now speaking of power let's talk about the the thing that everybody is thinking but you don't want to say it out loud and you know get banned from all platforms I guess which is one of the odds this turns into an actual shooting revolution because the interesting thing is that the the protesters are quite brilliantly avoiding gunfire except at each other so the the only people are being shot by protesters are other protesters apparently now that is surprisingly good discipline don't you think I mean that's it's sort of scary how good the discipline is and the reason it makes sense because as long as they have numbers but they don't use guns the other side that's going to have to
to using guns against them because it would

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using guns against them because it would just increase their numbers so they have sort of this checkmate kind of thing where if it's just lots of humans with maybe some clubs now and then and you know some dirty tricks but no guns it's just gonna be hard to control them if your only tool is guns you're shooting them would make them stronger it would it would both you know boost their argument but on the other hand it has always been true and probably always will be true that the government is whoever uses the most force so if the if the government in name you know the one that you think of as the government now is unwilling or unable to use the most force then whoever is willing to use the most force becomes the government so right now the way they use crowds against smaller numbers of armed -

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against smaller numbers of armed - people who will use their their weapons their what would stop them what would be the thing that stops them because it's working right and people keep doing what works well the only thing that will stop them is force that have had to be a force that is violent again not recommending not I'm not saying anybody should do anything violent I never recommend that well we're doing is sort of thinking through what is the logical ramifications of of what you're saying right so it's more just a prediction so things you know I always say there's no such thing as a slippery slope because it can't slip forever and you know if we rethought how we treated George Washington and that ended up being you know sort of where the line got drawn in retrospect you look at it and say well you know something stopped it but the only thing to sort of stop it that I can

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only thing to sort of stop it that I can imagine because they're not looking for concessions right if the protesters were looking for something that that a gap you know an actual specific deliverable and then you could give it to them you'd say oh well it's like a strike by a union as soon as they get what they want or the best that they can get then they go back to work but these protesters are not like a union strike there's not really a specific thing they want except more and more is not something you can satisfy you know because you can't just give more if the response is more and more so there's no way to negotiate an end to something that isn't a negotiation and can't be by its nature it's just a power so it's basically a Power Move and the only thing that will stop it is violence so

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thing that will stop it is violence so if there is none and again I'm not suggesting there should be but it will just sweep through the country and and become the law of the land would obviously destroy the country because the the the main difference between the left and the right is an understanding of incentives and how to build a system you know Republicans are good at building systems that are a little bit cruel by objective standards which is is capitalism cruel yeah yeah it leaves people behind but it works better than other systems that's the only your the only thing you can say about it there's a compared to the alternatives it's way better it's not even close but it has lots of flaws of course anyway so that's the big differences that there isn't any way that the the left's view of how the world should run could

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of how the world should run could actually work and that's one of the reasons that I am not jokingly in favor of letting the the chop occupied zone then let it run out a little bit you let it let it play out because now you say to me but the Scot people are being killed there you know that we've had several shootings and murders in that area but it's only a few I know that sounds cold but you know it's an area that has a few burners every year this is more than normal but what would be the alternative what's the alternative if there's no way to get them out without force then leaving them there and having them basically discovered that they were like a better system might be the least the least damaging way to game this out in the long run from the least loss of life so

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long run from the least loss of life so it might be that they just need to have enough of a bad experience which would include death and but it's not it's not even the number of people getting a shot or killed that would make the big difference imagine living in this zone where you see people walking by open carry you know they've actually got guns you know that there was a shooting the other night and you know that you've kicked out the police and you live there so what if you're especially if you're a woman yeah you've got a little extra risk if you're a woman so what are they thinking what are the women in chopped thinking when they see that it is become you know the the law of whoever has a God or whoever decides to be the most violent so it seems to me that letting it run a little bit may if you were to fast forward into the future and say to yourself how is this going to look you

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yourself how is this going to look you know two years from now when we're looking back at the moment Republicans are saying some version of President Trump is not showing enough force not showing enough I'll lead her ship you know he's sort of standing back and letting the the mayors and you know handle things that may turn out to look brilliant as somebody says I have a blind spot about this I think it's about the the Marxist plan to take over the world so I don't have a blind spot about that in fact everything I've said it's compatible with that but I think that's what you're talking about
so yeah and you also have to factor in the odds that there's a foreign influence over the protesters now the odds that there's attempted foreign influences a hundred percent the odds

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influences a hundred percent the odds that it is successful the it's a variable that matters let's say that Russia or China or anybody else Great Britain yeah that you know is it possible and could they do it easily the answer is yeah it's possible they could do it easily and they have they have motivation to disable eyes at least in the case of Russia and China all right so I laid a little trap on Twitter the finally sprung and it goes like this I made three claims in a in a conversation in which a lot of Hollywood artists were involved now as you know artists are my natural enemies so whenever I say anything on Twitter that gets the attention of other writers authors artists musicians they they all attack but they're they're always a hilarious and their attacks because they

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hilarious and their attacks because they can't even really follow the point usually and their attacks are just completely irrational which is completely different from when out a lawyer or an engineer usually comes after me you know those are those more rational attacks they're either right or wrong I agree or I don't but when the artists come after me it's just it's just sort of crazy nonsense and it's more fun to to do that but anyway I used a technique that I've written about in which I said three things two of them are easily checked and I don't think you know I wouldn't get as much pushback from but the third one to set people's hair on fire because it's a little ambiguous now when I say it's a little ambiguous I mean reasonable people could look at the same information and say themselves I totally disagree with how you're interpreting that now when you can create a situation like that where

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can create a situation like that where there's a difference in how people interpret the same data and it's something that matters that's a good fight so if you're trying to draw attention to something have I taught you that doing something that's a little bit wrong yeah but it's close to something that's right is where you get all the attention simply making a claim that's true or false doesn't get the same attention as something that's just a little bit wrong and darn it you know you should have known it how could I fix this can't I practice for you you fool how could you have made this mistake so here are the claims I made it wasn't a threat about some discrimination against African Americans in Hollywood which I'm sure exists of course I wouldn't doubt that because it exists everywhere so so I just added context now waited where do you see the the breath of this play here

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you see the the breath of this play here you might appreciate the complexity of it alright so I said that I had lost two jobs in corporate America for being a white male you've heard those stories those are true because they told me directly to my face you cannot be promoted because you're white male so I left both of those positions eventually because I had to I couldn't be promoted but then I made a third claim that's a little sketchier now here's the part that's the fun part of course I know it's sketchy that's why I did it so I included a third part because it draws attention to the other two so that's the play so here's what I claimed and by the way this claim is as good as a lot of other claims that people would consider legitimate which is what makes

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consider legitimate which is what makes it sort of a good prank then it falls into that category of well maybe and so I claimed that I lost the the Dilbert TV show that ran on the UPN for because I'm a white creator with a write a white product and the context is that UPN decided to do a focus on an african-american audience right after my first season in which the Dilbert TV show had good enough ratings you know within the UPN universe a good enough ratings to be renewed now that's pretty good but you know I don't know what percentage of shows ever get renewed after the first season you know it's not terrific whatever that number is so just to get renewed it's a pretty big deal now in the animation world it's a much bigger deal because here's the thing with a live-action you can adjust as you

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with a live-action you can adjust as you go because you see what you're getting why you're getting it in other words you can have your actors do a run-through of the script if it's not funny you change a few lines and by the time it gets on television you know you've really refined it in real time but if you're making animation you write it you add the voices it gets sent off to I think South Korea at the time the animation happens and you don't see it again for months and the only thing you can do for the most part is cut extra stuff to get it down to size but you can't really manipulate it after it comes back so unlike live-action you've got a six month wait before you can make your first adjustment and and we did make adjustments so we'd get it back and we think wow sure this would work because it looked like it looked good on paper but it didn't work once it got to the Supreme

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didn't work once it got to the Supreme so I'd say all right I'll do less of that but I had this thing I didn't think would work work really well so we'll do more of that kind of thing so by the second season now both these were half seasons but that's a detail you don't need so the second season we had corrected all the things that weren't good in the first season so the second season was much better right so here's the set up first season good enough ratings to be renewed but the content I would say it was just alright it was pretty good but the second season was actually quite good and in the world of animation that demonstrates you know you probably have a pretty big hit on your hand but that's that's the time that they decided to be the African American network and we lost our time slot because it was it a administrative communication error as I was told well I

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communication error as I was told well I think there was some of that involved but don't you see don't you imagine that Dilbert would be the show that would lose its timeslot because that's how you kill the show you move its timeslot that's it's well known in TV world that if you move some things time slotted the ratings plummet that happens pretty much every time unless you're moving it to like a premium slot that it could go up so the ratings plunged because the time slot was moved at the same time they were considering being an african-american network in which Dilber would obviously not be the right product so was racism involved hard to say isn't it hard to say and I wouldn't even make the claim except I don't if it lights people's hair on fire and it's very much of the type that you hear all the time how often have you heard someone else make a claim not me but somebody else

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make a claim not me but somebody else make a claim of discrimination and you listen to the story and you say you're so maybe yo it could be but you know what else it could be you know what else it could be could be you're not good at your job so what did people say to me when I when I made that claim the writers of the artist went crazy and they said now it's because you weren't good it's because the show wasn't good look at your ratings in the final final year which of course is by point two once they move the timeslot the ratings go down so of course it gets canceled he got cancelled for low ratings but had low ratings because the timeslot was moved why was the timeslot moved well I can think of one reason it would have made sense of their strategy which was stated to be an african-american programming network so now that I've got people's hair on fire from this sketchy claim that of course I can't approve it's exactly like all the other things

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it's exactly like all the other things that can't be proved too by ears so if you'd like to know how it sounds to me when I hear somebody make it claim I just taught you that's how it sounds it sounds like I don't know Scott I think maybe your shell wasn't good maybe consider that that's exactly what it sounds would I hear other people's complaints and let me be perfectly clear it doesn't mean your complaints are wrong it doesn't mean your complaints are wrong because I don't know if mine was right or wrong I actually don't know can I prove that I was disadvantaged in any way I can't really so if somebody says guy you can't prove that I have to say hey guess what that's the point that's the point now let's get to the fun part this

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now let's get to the fun part this allowed me to draw a lot of fire what happens when somebody who is a train to persuader draws energy to themselves even when it's negative yeah what happens when you draw negative energy to yourself well you could be like Joe Rogan who draws both positive and negative energy and he just made a hundred billion deal 100 million dollar deal with Spotify so that's why he did with negative energy you could be like candidate Trump which are negative energy into the presidency of the United States could do that or you could do what I did and that was to set a trap for Ida Bain Wells who she's been covering race for the 16:19 project she calls herself the Beyonce of journalism this is just in her profile and she's a co-founder of something the

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and she's a co-founder of something the 16:19 project I guess so she writes for The New York Times Magazine so she's involved with writing about race and racism and she replies to me that you're listening was her first reply - was she you're absolutely right that is why white men are totally underrepresented in supervisory positions high-paying jobs corporate management I mean they're practically unicorns now what is there anything I said this suggested that I believed that senior management was diverse a hundred percent of what I said agreed with her comment which was there was no diversity there's not much diversity in Hollywood right that's that was the whole reason that UPN thought well let's be a an african-american Network the whole point was they thought it was an under filled category so

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it was an under filled category so everything she's saying is what I say in fact that's why I lost my to corporate careers I lost them because there were so many white people waiting at white men in senior management that they said hey too many you know we've got to hold off so that's why I lost my banking and my
my telecommunication jobs but the other thing that everybody accused me of was asking for a penny and running a pity party to which I say I've never asked for a penny have you ever asked me have you ever heard me asked for sympathy I'm just telling you my story but are you waiting for the good part here's the good part I tweeted I debate Wells comment her first first comment I think that was her second comment actually and

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that was her second comment actually and I pinned it to my profile and I asked people to say if they had the similar experience of being discriminated against because they were white and male do you think anybody had any stories well let me see how many we've got so far let's see and this was the culmination of the whole point so they're about sixteen hundred comments and I'll just scroll down somebody in the middle so these are people who said they were a white man who were discriminated against and lost a job for it almost all of them who say that they were told directly right so almost all of these were told directly let's say yep it happened to me yeah when there was a state employee boom I have all

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was a state employee boom I have all these rejections saying the same thing exactly the same thing happened to my dad blah blah as police department once applied for a job of the law wrong demographic same here but bla bla I was I was passed over by for a less experienced bla bla so just on my little yeah you can see in the comments so here's here's the red pill of all red pills you ready for it it's the red pill of red pills and by the way what I'm gonna say next I couldn't say until I had set up this chain of events so that I could post this tweet in context so I had a contact so I could tweet it and say hey anybody have the same experience that I had to create a whole series of events just to be free to say that because I don't have freedom of speech yeah the way other people do and now I

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yeah the way other people do and now I can say this it's one of the biggest discriminations in the world against white men but the trick that is being played on us is that if you lost a job because you're a white man well you because they're a rich men that are not you you understand that reasoning right you were passed over for a job so your life was impacted by a racist decision there's no one you know they were trying to fix a past injustice we all get that and in fact I agree with some reverse discrimination I'm not even opposed to it I'm just saying it exists and it's way bigger than you think yes that the fact is the white people have not been allowed to complain but here's what you got wrong once once things got to the point where George Washington's being torn down and more Mount Rushmore is being threatened now it is no longer a power imbalance

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now it is no longer a power imbalance where if you're a white male you just couldn't talk because you were a considered part of the elite and you just you didn't have free speech but as your power and society subsides and it's happening in real time right now you know that the power of being a white male in the United States would anybody argue is is at least heading in the direction of lower so whatever you thought it was before it's certainly going lower so that that frees up some free speech because whoever is the most downtrodden in our society gets the most free speech right the president the most powerful he has to be the most careful or she has to be the most careful about how they talk but if you were as let's say a black man in America you can kind of say anything right you can kind of say anything because traditionally you've got so much

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because traditionally you've got so much working against you that people will say yeah okay but the the more presumed or actual power you have the less free speech you have it just works that way so I can say now something I couldn't say before which is that although I'm not personally complaining if you know it was a serious offense which led me because I had enough options to succeed in a better way than working in a cubicle so for me it worked out great in the long run right I'm not sure it works out great for everybody else but what I would like to suggest is that it is super racist to overlook all of the white men and others you know it's not just white men but a number of the examples were Asian Americans and women who were having the same experience so it wasn't just white men but if there's a massive amount of serious direct

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a massive amount of serious direct discrimination going on and and their reasoning given for it is that you have to pay for the sins of some strangers who have also white skinned which is the most super racist thing you've ever heard in your life super racist but we can say that now I couldn't really say that before all right so that was the whole point of that and I felt bad because there were actually some well-intentioned people who were trying to figure out if my example was real or not and I felt bad because I was kind of pranking you know pranking people with that third example but the third example was to draw attention to the other two third example might be true as well I just don't know I
I no but I know that it got people's hair on fire that's what I wanted here's an interesting factoid the Iranian budget is fifties now they have an income for

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is fifties now they have an income for the government so this is what the government has to spend oil revenue and tax income combined 57 billion so that's the annual amount that red house to spend 57 billion their budget is 480 billion and the problem of course is that oil prices are low but also that their economy suffers from all the sanctions so how long can I ran you just continue as a country if they're making fifty seven billion a year but spending four hundred eighty billion and I have to think that they're going to prune back their support of you know adventurous terrorism just because they can't afford it so is the president's plan totally working because it sort of looks like it is this sort of looks like squeezing Iran is totally working let's say I'm sure I had a few

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working let's say I'm sure I had a few other things out here so tick-tock just got banned in India do you know how big a deal that is so tick-tock was banned in India along with I don't know fifty other apps that Chinese connection because it allowed China to gather data I think inspire people and God knows what else so how long do you think tic-tac is going to last in the United States tic-tac I said tic-tac again tick-tock how long do you think tick tock is going to last and still be legal to use in the United States I don't think long now here's the most interesting thing that came out of that so Balaji Srinivasan Duvall rava Conte if you don't if you don't know those two names that you don't know anything about Silicon Valley but I just I just met you

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Silicon Valley but I just I just met you two of the smartest most successful people into Silicon Valley and they said they're open to looking at business plans investments for people who make a competitor an American version of a competitor to these Chinese apps so goodbye Chinese apps so no matter whether or not the government bans the Chinese apps and I think that's just a guarantee I can't imagine that's not in the pipeline and I can't imagine it's not gonna happen soon so that's probably gonna happen and it looks like the smartest people of Silicon Valley just just put the green light on business plans for competitors so let's watch the smartest people in America just just take that off the table just take those

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take that off the table just take those apps just right out of the game that's not going to happen right away and it probably does require that the government banned the ones that are coming from China but capitalism it's going to do its thing
so Washington Post global opinions editor Karen Atia so something she said recently was quote in a tweet I guess I think she took it out but we said white women are lucky then we were just calling them Karen's and not calling for a revenge innocence deleted tweet now imagine imagine if you were not a black woman who was an opinion editor at The Washington Post who else could say that and still keep their job I mean she deleted the tweet but I can't imagine a white person being say that and keep their job so keep an

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say that and keep their job so keep an eye on that so that's that's a little freedom of speech that some people have that not everybody has so I I was complaining about the treatment that The Daily Beast gave to Van Jones and I was saying that so their claim was that he had advised the White House of the police reform executive order and then he had said good things about it on TV without disclosing that he had advised the mother so I had said you know how disgusting of The Daily Beast people don't you know brag about advising the White House yeah it's just not done and if he liked the outcome well just why not
not he liked the outcome what's he gonna do say he doesn't like the outcome when he likes the outcome so I would say it was a it was just a hit piece over nothing but that Van Jones clarified that he had nothing to do with the the executive order and that they'd apparently they reported they saw him going to the White

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reported they saw him going to the White House he's been he's been nowhere near the way even Washington DC the entire story was just made up the entire story was just made up can you freaking believe that for The Daily Beast they they just picked the guy to do a hip piece on and literally just made up stuff and then wrote it or wrote an article on this stuff they made up it does it doesn't that just make your head spin and that The Daily Beast is still in there in business and people people read it and they think they're getting news and stuff they think that there's something you're real in it it's kind of mind-boggling anyway so that's what that's all about
yeah yeah somebody in the comments is making you laugh speaking of the steel dossier let me ask you this

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this is where the second cycle of or is it the third if you carry Ukraine indirectly of Russia being pulled into American politics who has an interest in pulling Russia into American politics who has that interest now you saved yourself all obviously the Democrats the Democrats have an interest because it works pretty well gets their base fired up throw a little more Russian stuff on there and I would say to yourself yeah yeah but I would say that Democrats are somewhat agnostic about how and they attack the president I feel as if they would use whatever they thought worked it could be Russia it could be something else but it is really the Russia stuff the strongest play think about how badly the Democrats got spanked on the whole Russia collusion thing do you think that they would say you know what I'd like to do the Russian collusion thing again

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do the Russian collusion thing again let's do some more Russia stuff do you feel as if that would be their just logical go to could be I can't rule the middle but let me ask you this what other country would like us to be anti Russia so people are saying China does it does that fit it would where China like the United States to be anti Russia well what would we do so they'll say you're China what would the United States do if they thought Russia was more of a threat build more weapons build up our military does China what the United States to build up its military even if the point of it is that part of the threat is Russia maybe maybe not so who would be a country who would like the United States

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country who would like the United States to build up his military but would be sort of concerned about Russia somebody who's had a connection to for example the steel dossier yeah Great Britain Great Britain is the obvious suspect because Great Britain can only survive if the United States and through its NATO efforts has a huge military deterrent against Russia because who else threatens Great Britain is it France is Great Britain worried about France yeah not at the moment Germany no no is Europe and Great Britain in particular worried that Russia might get a little adventurous yes it was Great Britain

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adventurous yes it was Great Britain worried about China probably a little bit but they gave them you know they they were friendly with hog hogs like yeah you think it's it's a deal you take it back we said we'd give it to you so now given that the steel dossier and a British connection and it feels like they just come up a lot and it feels as if anything that directs the United States public opinion against Russia and against the President Trump who they might think is a little soft on Russia you gotta look at them first don't you so I'm not saying I'm not blaming you so obviously I don't have any inside information about this I'm just saying if you're just looking at the board and you're saying here's a coincidence Russia story Russia story Russian story you think if it worked really well the first time you'd see more of it but it didn't work it was sort of an

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didn't work it was sort of an embarrassment or did it work I don't know so I would at least say let's keep that in mind all right that's all I got for now and I will see you tomorrow and I'm gonna try to make the interview with Carson work I think I figured out what I was doing wrong it was on my head the problem was and we'll try that tomorrow and I'll see you