Episode 1031 Scott Adams: News. Lots of it.
Date: 2020-06-18 | Duration: 1:05:30
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What is “systemic racism”?
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John Bolton’s book
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Matt Gaetz is linguistically gifted
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Blue flu in Atlanta
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Coronavirus death rate
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bum bum bum bum hey everybody come on in it's a little over lit today because I'm gonna be reading off my gigantic computer screen which creates more light than the Sun true more light than the Sun but before we get going with all the news have you noticed how much news there is oh there's a lot of news it's all interesting today so let's talk about it but first let's prepare properly and all you need is a cup or a mug a class of tanker Charles or Stein the canteen drug to flash a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the dopamine the end of the day the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous M does it sound like I was giving a lot of phone calls at 2:00 a.m. this morning and I didn't get enough sleep well you're right join me now I'm so
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well you're right join me now I'm so tired I can barely remember my name so this will be interesting so I just published a tweet thread on my one week challenge for people to give me examples of systemic racism because like most of you I just didn't know what it was did any of you think you knew what it was so let me tell you what I found out and I will look at my own thread here to remind myself of all that goodness so what I found out is everybody has different opinions of what it is now there might be some people who have the same opinions but there are lots of different ones right so if you ask two people hey describe to me what is systemic racism you can get very different answers and let me give you some of them and then you can see if
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some of them and then you can see if you agree with these she's all right I'll find it I'm so tired and can't even find my own tweets all right so here are some examples I got I got lots of examples that would apply would apply to anybody poor so let me ask you if you would call this systemic racism so if there's somebody who lives in a poor neighborhood because historically there are conditions that caused it to be a poor neighborhood they have probably a school system that has less funding because of a smaller tax base and therefore a worse education and that bad education will basically ripple into the future forever so that would be one given example of systemic racism to which I say wait a minute I was born in a town with a low tax base I went to a
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a town with a low tax base I went to a bad school your relative to you know better funded schools so how can you have systemic racism if it applies at least in this specific example of underfunded school it would be the same the white kids who happen to go to that underfunded school are they doing better oh right how does that example work alright give you some more so I reject that because of the ply to anybody who is poor and there are lots of people who were poor of all types I got lots of answers that were outcome based meaning that if the if the outcomes for any group were different that's your systemic racism to which I say is it is it do we have enough science to know that that's the one reason for the different outcomes I don't think we have that kind of science now I'm not saying that you know then I
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now I'm not saying that you know then I know what's going on because I don't but I would say that different outcomes is not even close to getting you a reason why you have the different outcomes there's a lot of you'd have to a lot of work you'd have to do to get to the why some people told me that a non racist system let's say a system that doesn't have any rules that are different by race let's say the legal system so on paper the legal system is colorblind but only on paper in reality it produces disparate outcomes and I think most people would agree that that is true but is that proof of systemic racism if you don't know why you have different outcomes and has the Y been looked into I don't think so before I blocked Tim Poole
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so before I blocked Tim Poole I had to block him because he he he did some bad mind-reading in public so I have a rule that I block anybody who attributes an opinion to me and then criticizes the opinion that they hallucinate it as if it was my opinion and I'm not even involved in this at all so okay that wasn't my opinion and I can't really speak to the criticism of your hallucination of it so whenever I encounter such individuals I blocked them because it's just been my experience that interacting with them just causes more of that like anybody who does that once they're not going to stop doing that all right then we'll just come up with a new hallucination for what you're thinking if you disprove that one they'll come up with another hallucination of what you're thinking now I'm not saying that that would apply to Tim Poole specifically I'm saying that as a pattern I've noticed in life my my experience of life is better if I
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my my experience of life is better if I just immediately get rid of people who are like that and see in the comments free Tim Poole but let me say clearly it's nothing personal there's nothing personal about this I think I saw to you from Tim that thought I know he just mind his reaction to being blocked was to do more of what got him blocked which is to imagine he knows what I'm thinking or why I do anything and then saying it in public by the way somebody says
somebody's bringing a certain of hitch into it here's something that Mike Savage has never done he is never he's never assigned a motive or a thought to me in public and then criticized it in public and I don't think he ever will because it's a up thing to do it's completely up never never assign somebody a motive that they have
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assign somebody a motive that they have not that they have not said themselves and then criticize them for it you can ask them if they're thinking that you can ask them to clarify their opinion perfectly fine but just coming up with an opinion about what I'm thinking and then saying it in public and it's wrong it's not even close and then criticizing it therefore that creates a permanent record that would confuse people about my opinion I don't want a confusing permanent record so I just delete people who do that you and there there are certain people who will do it over and over again that's all I'm saying all right back to this topic of systemic racism so Tim pools example is that let's say there's something small that happens the snowballs let's say you get a speeding ticket and you can't afford to pant the next time you get stopped maybe the cop says you didn't pay your tickets maybe
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says you didn't pay your tickets maybe your lice get license gets take in but you should still have to go to work next thing you know you hear in jail you know just it just builds and builds from that little infraction that you just can't recover from maybe maybe you got put in jail for something minor but now you've got a jail record so it just accumulates but I rejected that Tim got mad because he didn't see my post in which I responded to him so he thought I didn't respond and they got extra mad for me not responding but of course I had responded he just didn't see it and what I responded was that that example as far as I can tell would apply to everybody who is poor how does a poor white person pay a speeding ticket do poor white people just suddenly get money if they need to pay a speeding ticket I think this just applies to poor people now there may be a version of this that doesn't apply to
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a version of this that doesn't apply to everybody equally but I didn't hear it now I did say that I'm convinced I think all the data suggests this or says it pretty clearly that authority figures be they teachers cops or judges whatever I think they do treat young african-american males in particular differently on average wouldn't you say that's probably true I mean but we don't know why right is that the one reason because I think it's true but you only have one reason that that authority figures are treating African American young males differently let me let me see if I doze of you watch me know that I'm on a sort of a non-stop path to try to get myself cancelled now I don't want to be cancelled but as I've said before you have to walk right up through the line of cancellation to be honest enough to say anything useful so if you're not
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to say anything useful so if you're not right on the edge of getting cancelled you're also you're just not useful you're just not part of the conversation you're just you're just way over there lying about stuff so that nobody will be mad at you so if you can't walk up to that line maybe just don't be part of the conversation because because you can't possibly help if you're too afraid of saying the wrong thing so let me say something that I think is so inappropriate I'll get cancelled see what you think so you and I and most people have been watching lots of coverage of the protests okay so when I watch the protests and I'm watching people get into physical alteration altercations I'm saying to myself okay what if I were in that position don't you do that automatically okay you see you see the TV scuffle and you put yourself in the position of somebody you read through the cop or you the you're the protestor or maybe you go back and forth but it's
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or maybe you go back and forth but it's just sort of normal you you read yourself into the story exactly the way when the George Floyd the video came out what was so powerful about that is that no matter who you were you know no matter your ethnicity your age anything you put yourself into George Floyd's world they're just four nine minutes you know yeah I at least for me it was just automatic I wasn't the cop I was George Floyd when I watched the video and I think that's why every white person who watches said ah okay now I get it like before I knew what you were saying and intellectually I understood it but now I get it like in a full-body way like now I feel like artificially I inhabited his life at least in my imagination during those last moments of life it was horrible now you know I'm emotionally sort of compatible with what you're saying so there are a lot of things we saw that
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there are a lot of things we saw that you know make us just automatically read ourselves into this situation that's a long way of saying this if you looked at the two primary groups that were in the protest among the protesters themselves you had the black lives matter people and you had a lot of ante foe looking people right when I watched any of the ante for looking people getting into some kind of a scuffle here's what I said to myself I could take that guy did yeah I did any of you have that that feeling maybe it's just a male feeling I don't know how many women would think in that way but if you're a man and you see I think any two people fighting you automatically put yourself in the fight just the same way you see a video of you know a tragedy you just put yourself there and I put myself in the fight and I say to myself I could I could take that ante I you know if I had to not
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that ante I you know if I had to not everyone some of them are pretty big yeah I couldn't if auntie if a guy is six feet tall and you know he's pretty beefy but none of them looked let's say like they play sports I'm just saying I'm just saying I didn't do a survey right I don't have data this is purely subjective and and biased completely subjective and biased but since what we're talking about is how we're persuaded by things I'm not telling you what's true I'm just telling you know I felt this is just my impression so I'm watching the antifa guys miles and miles of video footage scuffle scuffle and every time I look at them I'm thinking yeah I might be able to take that guy I mean I'm 63 years old five feet eight away 158 pounds and still you know just because just because I have muscle
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because just because I have muscle definition and you know if you put me in a situation I can handle myself I thought to myself I could take most of those guys even mate now I also saw many many miles of footage of black men young black men who were in scuffles or some not in scuffles you know some of them were just protesting and do you know what I said when I watched any of the black people in any kind of an altercation I'll tell you what I said that guy would kick my ass I would not want to get in a fight with that guy he looks like he could tear me a part now am I being racist I don't know you watched the same video as me do you think that the black people looked as soft and weak as the white people I don't I mean to me it looked like a pretty big difference there was
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like a pretty big difference there was there was a physicality difference that was hard hard enough to notice now am I being racist to say that it was my impression that the black people in those protests were far more fit is that racist you watched it what did you see if there's a if there's anybody and I hope there is are there any black people on this periscope who will just back me up on this did it not look to you like most of the black people were far more fit and capable physically capable and most of the white people who looked like they'd been playing video games in the basement for the last seven years now if you're a cop and you pull over some we looking anti foul white guy who weighs a hundred and forty pounds and you know he's never thrown a punch how do you treat him are you worried probably not and you're not
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you worried probably not and you're not really worried not in the same way now let's say you pull over a guy who's your size he's your size or he's bigger and he looks like he he looks like he notices let's say he notices we're out you know what I mean he's a guy who looks like he could take care of himself in the fight you don't know if he's a fighter you just look at him you're saying I don't know it looks like he could take care of himself in the fight do you treat him exactly the same as this skinny little punk white kid who you know couldn't throw a punch and if he did it wouldn't hurt you anyway I don't think so I don't think so now who studied that difference that's just one of maybe 15 differences that you would find if you started digging down into the why of things the thing we continually ignore is that and I teach you this consistently it's one of the most important rules of persuasion they'll say it again the way you act
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they'll say it again the way you act when you and I are together the way you act is up to me as soon as you think it's the other way around the whole world is confusing and nothing will make sense to you now of course you have agency and you you can also make your own decisions and a part you know the biggest part of what you do is going to be yourself but until you understand how much I can change your actions you're just lost you're just lost let me go a little bit closer to the line of getting cancelled is there anybody who believes anybody black anybody white anybody Asian American is there anybody in any group who believes this isn't true that different groups respond differently to the police does anybody doubt that the different groups probably respond differently to authority figures in general does anybody believe that every
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general does anybody believe that every group responds the same on average again it's an average every individual is going to be different right you know there's no there's no general statement that applies to every person can we agree on that we're at least beyond that right we know the averages don't mean anything for any one person that's the whole point of racism that yeah we were confused about the average applying to the individual but do you think that the average asian-american would get stopped by police reacts exactly the same as the average white American white America yeah is that even a word or is or the average African American well how many differences do you see number one is the average physical size of the average African American who stopped by the place if you were just just to say all right well let's just weigh them let's just take their height and their weight
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just take their height and their weight would it be the same if you're a cop do you treat somebody the same if they're small do you treat women the same as men you should write shouldn't you treat women the same as men I mean except for you know searching them you want to have a woman to do the search and stuff so the special cases yes of course would be differences but just in terms of your demeanor how much force you use do you think you use the same on to the police use the same force on women as they do one men I doubt it I doubt it do you think that the average asian-american scares a police officer the same way that the average african-american that they don't know anything about do you think the police are being you know having the same reaction probably not now is that racism kind of kind of it's
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now is that racism kind of kind of it's kind of racism isn't it but on the other hand is it is that the bad kind if the thing you're if the thing you're reacting to is the physical size and the and the extent of the threat to you personally is that racism because I'm not talking about an average I'm talking about there's two specific people one is smallish one is large I know it feels like it'd be different let me ask you this if you believed that if you if your history your personal history the thing that defines you was a legacy of slavery and that and that was like a just a big part of your mental you know your mental map was that slavery is was your origin story how would you how would you naturally react to Authority if that was a defining part of your personality would you would you react the same as I would when my
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react the same as I would when my defining story was the founders of the United States think about it my origin story if you will you know the thing that you're brainwashed with as a kid is that the the people that I should relate two would be George Washington you know Thomas Jefferson oh forget about the slavery part for a minute you know we're just looking at their good parts because that's how I was brainwashed as a kid I was brainwashed to literally ignore their bad parts and say look at these white people who are leaders and inventors and revolutionaries in a good way and they did all these wonderful things oh let's ignore the fact they were raping their slaves we won't talk about that now my origin story is about authority that I am part of Authority I'm part of I'm part of the you know the rule in class if you will just by virtue of being a white guy that wasn't born
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of being a white guy that wasn't born into a ruling class but it is my origin story all right now I encounter an authority figure what would be the natural way that I would respond to an authority figure if I had been trained from birth that I am one right if you're dealing with somebody who's just you at a different age you're perfectly polite if they if if I talk to a CEO or a teacher when I was a kid or a police office or something I saw them as part of the structure this mean you know stuff the leadership you know people in control authority figures well that's either what I'm already if I'm a holder or when I was a kid I just assumed I would be an authority figure someday I always thought I would be an authority figure so my feeling about Authority was somewhat positive suppose your origin story was that the
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suppose your origin story was that the authority figures were raping and killing you for generations do you act the same it'd be hard if you're a human being with normal normal brain that'd be pretty hard to start with that you know to start that far in the well and find your own way out without a lot of help right most of us don't have a lot of help so here's my point to imagine that everybody who has such a different origin story such a different cultural influences to imagine that everybody as a group responds in ways that are similar enough that the only thing you need to know is what the cops did the only data you need to know is what the is what the teacher did the only data you need to know is what the authority figure did I would say that's naive to the point of intentional stupidity because you're gonna need to
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stupidity because you're gonna need to know a lot more things to know what happened in any situation you're gonna need to know the sizes ages you're gonna need to know expectations what their history I just a million things their income I could go on alright let's see what else is in the news today oh the fun stuff is the John Bolton book so one of the great the great stories in the John Bolton book which looks like just made-up stuff to me now we've seen the number of these tell-all books and they all have that same quality the worst thing in the book doesn't have other witnesses have you noticed that all these tell-all books have the same quality there are a few little bombshell things in there they're like oh man you can't believe this happened and what's the next thing you find out about it no witnesses except for the person who wrote the book and if there were other
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wrote the book and if there were other people in the room they don't remember happening they didn't see it huh what a coincidence so the the John Bolton won which is hilarious is he says that the president said the President to President Xi of China that Trump allegedly told them she that building a concentration camps for we Gers was fine and he should do more of it
do you think there's any chance that happened no there's no chance that that happened and then you know as soon as I read that I'm like okay start the timer timer is running that one - there it is there's the guy who was in the room I think it was lighthouse or something who said I was in the room I don't remember anything like that now I think you'd remember something like that and of course the story had translators involved so there's Davi there's a
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involved so there's Davi there's a pretty obvious place where things could have gone wrong if there were translators involved all right now the other thing you don't know is what Trump's inner strategy was so you don't know anytime you see a story of Trump dealing with Putin Trump dealing with President Xi Trump dealing with Kim jong-un the stories the the criticism stories will typically be of the form Trump gave them too much right you've seen it for Kim Putin and now President Xi the president Trump oh he's such a great negotiator is he he gave them too much and it'll be a specific point of something he gave him in North Korea the point was that he let him do some short-range rocket testing that technically you know that he said it was okay and it probably wasn't with Xi I
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okay and it probably wasn't with Xi I guess it was something about the tariffs being reduced if she would buy more products which he never did more foreign products which he didn't do and then of course you all know the Putin stories now all of these stories are the out of context type if you're looking at a negotiation which is first of all a long-term affair if you talk in country to country and has lots of elements some of those elements may not have anything to do with the thing you're talking about so in other words you could be talking about a trade deal but what you really want is a nuclear missile deal and everything's sort of connected right if you mean so maybe you can give something away on the trade deal but you get something back in some other way etc so all these are out of context stories the other thing you don't know is if Trump gave up something with the hope that that would soften them up maybe set the stage so that later when you ask for
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the stage so that later when you ask for something you could say luck we gave you this show of goodwill you got it now we're asking you for this I'd like a similar show of goodwill because reciprocity if I've taught you nothing is very powerful now does reciprocity work in international deals well I think that's a real question because if you're dealing with somebody who sees themselves as your enemy doing something nice for them with nothing in return might be just free money hey thanks for the free money we're gonna kill you anyway but if you were dealing with let's say Great Britain if you're dealing with France and let's say there was a situation in which the United States could do something that would benefit them and we didn't have any immediate thing that we would get back you know it wasn't a tip for tap it's just something we could do for France we had the ability we have the opportunity
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had the ability we have the opportunity we could do it they couldn't do it for themselves so we just do it because we're allies is that a good play yeah yeah it's totally a good play with an ally so because you you assume the allies are often going to be in a situation where you need to ask a small favor sometimes even a big favor but if you've primed the situation with reciprocity France someday will say you know you know it's sort of like Lafayette we're here you know sort of situation that even military alliances the reciprocity of a military alliance can last generations so the fact that we fought on the same side as Great Britain same side as France in their country you know in their area not in their country in the case of Greene but those those feelings can last generations so yeah reciprocity is very strong so if
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so yeah reciprocity is very strong so if you see the president testing reciprocity in other words giving something that clearly any objective person would say ooh it looks like you gave a little bit too much there and didn't ask for something in return you'd have to ask yourself is he testing the waters is he just testing to see if it does work because imagine if that worked imagine if you were dealing with somebody who really did just want to have a deal that works for both sides they weren't trying to destroy your country they just wanted something that works now and will work in the future reciprocity is worth testing now if it doesn't work you go to plan B Plan B just got implemented plan B is where Trump just signed some document to hold the Chinese authorities responsible for the Uighur prison camps that's what Plan B looks like okay now when you treat
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B looks like okay now when you treat somebody like an ally but they're not one of two things can happen either you've just given them free money oh thanks for that favor you're gonna get nothing in return and we're gonna destroy you that's bad but persuasion wise you can sometimes turn somebody into something by treating with them like that thing you wanted them to turn into in other words you could actually turn an enemy into a friend by acting like a friend not every time I done of this persuasion stuff works every time but it's a good play to simply act like you're a friend and it will cause the other person to not know what to do well I thought we were kind of friend amis but this person keeps acting like I'm an actual friend that is very persuasive it's worth the try I don't think it worked in the case of China I don't think it worked right
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think it worked right but it was worth a try what's the other thing Bolton is saying so he had a couple of crazy things oh I think he says that Trump claimed he didn't know if Great Britain was a nuclear power now is that true first of all is it true that Trump wasn't sure if Great Britain was a nuclear power so I have a few different takes on this number one it's probably not true then this story itself is probably no more true than Trump telling China that he was on board with them building prison camps it just on its surface it's probably not true but let's say it was let's say it was true how could you explain that without the explanation that the president is mentally incapable or under informed or something is there any other way to explain it let me offer you a few
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explain it let me offer you a few possibilities one you may have asking if they're bluffing in other words he may have been asking yeah technically Great Britain can make a bomb but can they really launch one I mean you know do they have do they really have as much as they would like you to believe or are they using the belief that there are nuclear power which is a little more hyperbole than truth you because they obviously have some some kind of nuclear capability but is it more like North Korea where we're not sure if it works this hasn't been quite tested or is it the kind of where oh yeah it's solid the Great Britain nuclear defense just like the best countries in the world now what was the context was it just making sure that it's real because I would consider that a fair question wouldn't you because Israel says it's
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wouldn't you because Israel says it's not a nuclear power right if you know there's at least one ally who is lying completely about its nuclear capability in this case Israel yeah what nukes we got no nukes is it possible than another ally to be lying in the other direction oh yeah we got nukes our nukes are the best and maybe it's not exactly true it's worth asking so I'm not saying that's what happened I'm just taking you through an imagination exercise to show that sometimes when you say well there's only one explanation for this sometimes there are multiple let me give you another one how many times in your life have you found yourself being you know the educated smart person who you are not knowing the fact that was just embarrassing that it was so embarrassing that for some reason you just have the
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that for some reason you just have the old skip in your brain and there was a fact that everybody knows and just for whatever reason you didn't all the time all the time all the time yesterday last night I wish I could tell you the story but I can't there was something that Christina said and I said what seriously that's a thing and she looked at me like like where have you been all of your life yes it's a thing and of course it is a thing so just last night I had a very specific you know experience where I don't think I'm mentally incapable I don't think I'm stupid in an overall way but sure there sure enough there was that little stupid thing that I did last night that even I think was stupid like even I think it was like why did I know that how could I go through my whole life and not know that everybody knows
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life and not know that everybody knows that so it's a very common sort of the thing has as the president lost the step because he's in his seventies of course of course that's why I say don't elect presidents and seventies if you have a choice and I'm gonna tell you something that you're not going to want to hear this this might go down kind of hard if Democrats had run the candidate in his or her 40s or 50s it would have been hard for me not to support them honestly I mean I would have had to look at it pretty hard because I do think age is a factor and it's a big one and I don't think we should just keep ignoring it and I wouldn't I wouldn't say a different thing for Biden as I would for Trump you know everybody's different and it's pretty clear the Trump's and way better shape than Biden I mean that I wouldn't compare them in essence but nobody over Saturday is operating the same it's a
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Saturday is operating the same it's a you gotta ask that question alright let's talk about some other things I put up on my my computer here the CNN homepage next to the Fox News homepage to look at differences and the Bolton thing will just sort of come and go let's see some other things that the CNN thinks are news so you got the news about representatives wall well asking GOP to state the black lives matter and then I guess Matt Gaetz said absolutely and then he answered with all lives matter so he's very good at provocation but and but the way he does it it's just so it's so clever because instead of saying that the wrong way to do it is do you believe black lives matter and if you just say all lives matter then you've fallen into the trap and
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then you've fallen into the trap and you're a racist and why don't you care about black people but if you look at this little nuance that Gates added to it so swell we'll ask can you say say absolutely that black lives matter and he answered yes absolutely yes all lives matter that's different if you if you don't add the absolutely yes part and then and then you just go with all lives matter well you're sort of a racist but if you say absolutely yes you've agreed with a statement and then you've extended it to all people who are valuable and then you then you've then if you're SWA well and you've laid the trap and then you think you fell into the trap but he's hovering over the trap and you're thinking yourself I know I dug a big hole and I know he fell into it but why is gravity not taking him to the bottom of the hole why is he hovering above it it's because Gates is
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above it it's because Gates is linguistically gifted I mean there's no other word for he's just gifted in that way all right every poll on everything about race is complete can we just agree on that every poll about race and racism and who's racist and who trusts you and race in this at the moment it's just all because I don't think people are in their permanent minds I think people are in their temporary minds the meaning that they're so influenced by the the images on TV that they're they're in a mode which is not their ordinary mode so everything's attenuated and of course the reason for that is that the technology to do that is so good now let's talk about that the blue flu so last night I was on Twitter quite late and I'm watching mostly Mike sort
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late and I'm watching mostly Mike sort of itches Twitter account and others and they're talking about lots of reports there were people getting individually from people they knew in Atlanta that the police were calling in sick so it was a call-out not a walk off they were calling in sick to protest the charges against the two police officers one of whom killed the suspect shot him in the back as he was running away the gentleman who had the stun gun so so we've got that going on and I'm watching on Twitter this giant theme of how many people how many police are not going to work and then I open up the news because it was the biggest thing on Twitter and let's see all right I'm on CNN and let's see if they talk about the blue flu hashtag blue flu looking down list going going going going going going do to even
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going going going going going do to even see it it's actually not even on the homepage or I don't see it I mean it's not called I don't anyway all right so that's the biggest story from real people on the internet and if assuming that the reports are true that's a really big deal why would it not be on see you then all right let's try Fox News now you'd expect to find it here right there it is top left right where you'd expect to find it multiple Atlanta officers have resigned oh actually talking about resigned that is different that's not the blue flu so they'll keep going go lower on the page not there not there so now they're Fox News nor CNN have at least prominently anything about this blue flu why why is it because it's not news well let's let's
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because it's not news well let's let's check oh em let's see if we've got that as a headline I don't know where to find them they don't have a website and they only broadcast one number oh okay you gotta go to the right URL in that it helps okay what American news network Oh a.m. all right suicides a veteran [Music] going down the list on the front page I
don't see it yet it's not being called out so I believe you when you say in the comments that was covered maybe it was covered in broadcast way but I'll see it on that page somebody here said it was on the Washington Post page let's see if it's there
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it's there Washington Post nope don't see it maybe I'm missing it but at the very least it's not being called out okay so the other thing that you didn't see in the news is coverage of the protests why not here's what I think somebody the comment says don't order an OEM shirt there's a story about that you probably saw so is it would it be true that nothing bad happened in Atlanta and that the police didn't have any real problem maybe a few people maybe a few people somebody says it's on Washington Post I'm looking at it right now I'm on the homepage I'm looking at the homepage right now don't see it so it might be a story somewhere
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see it so it might be a story somewhere deeper down but does it feel to you that the news might be collectively underplaying it do you think that the news industry they all set to themselves let's not make this a story because all the police everywhere will walk out do you think that the news has decided to manipulate the public both the left and the right into not making this which could be you know a local Atlanta problem not making this a national problem because it does seem to me that this could easily become all put all police walking out or calling in sick for a week somebody says Hannity talked about the blue flu but you do see that it's not on the written newest pages there are individual pundits you can expect to talk about it but it's not being treated as news isn't likewise were there
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as news isn't likewise were there protests last night does anybody know if there were any protests last night because I don't see any evidence of it in the news were there giant protests last night that are just not being covered if that's true and it does look like that's true wouldn't you say that the news has abdicated its responsibility for news and have now accepted their role as manipulators of the public does it not seem to you obvious that the news business is not trying to be news anymore they are trying to manage your psychology directly because they're not covering the two biggest stories in the world not not the biggest stories in the world but two of the biggest stories in the country for today it looks like they're completely ignoring left and right or or am i completely confused and those
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am i completely confused and those stories don't exist are there no protests maybe how would I know how about deaths from coronavirus can you think of a bigger story than that what would be a bigger story than the number of people who have died of coronavirus since people started going back to work that's like big right that's big so I'm gonna look for the death rate not the number of people who were infected right because if the death rates going down it doesn't really matter too much if the infection rates going up I mean it matters but in a different level of Maverick because it could be that we're just getting better at treating things it could be that we have enough immunity that I don't maybe the people who could have it the worse already got it I don't know but something's going on that those lines are disconnected now more infections more infections and not just because we're testing that's part of it but not just because of that well the
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but not just because of that well the death rates going down so if the death rate has continued to go down let's say it went down today and yesterday or it went up today and yesterday whichever direction it went or even if it was flat wouldn't that be the biggest story right that death rate from coronavirus Ellis find it we'll go to CNN homepage let's see Stefan Dakka Dakka Dakka Florida has the makings of the next epicenter all right so we'll dig into that if there's no other story all right so that looks like the only one so on CNN they have a coronavirus story as they should and it's highlighted so it's so so far we're good it's a it's a big story and it is highlighted let's dig in and see how long it takes them to say the death rate ten states or a record number of new cases infections so we got lots of new
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cases infections so we got lots of new infections that's the first sentence shouldn't the death rate be in the first sentence would you be more concerned about getting coronavirus or dying which of those seems like news ah he's got the coronavirus 98% of people are fine or he died which of those is news well according to CNN getting the virus is the news not the dying part all right yeah turns out Florida becoming a hot spot and other states also have problems talk about the president saying Wednesday an interview that the virus is quote dying out which of course all the data says is not true but what about the death rate if the President had noticed that the death rate was getting smaller every day would it be inaccurate to say the virus as dye and yes it would be inaccurate
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as dye and yes it would be inaccurate but it would look different wouldn't it if you knew that the death rate was trending towards zero the death rate and your president said the viruses quote dying out is that like a hundred percent lie or is that really focusing on the important part the part where people die from it it would be it would violate the fact checking for sure so would not be true technically but if you could ignore the death rate I don't think you're playing this straight somebody says more tests because more more infections before because of more testing apparently that's not the whole story so if you think the only reason there's more cases is because we're testing it more that has been debunked I'm pretty sure that's not true testing is part of it but there's also just more of it I believe the experts say all right so
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I believe the experts say all right so now so now we've got a whole list of how they're trending so surely the death rate will be in this it's like a whole details about coronavirus point number one no no it's all about infections and every one of the points is about infection and none of them are about death let's keep going there let me just cancel death or search for it a nope where death is not on the page and nowhere in the article but surely fox news will do better let's see Fox News biggest story ah a lot about john bolton a lot about police a lot about racism and john Bolton's more and daca and daca and daca and and protests outside Portland mayor so so the only protest
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Portland mayor so so the only protest coverage on fox news is outside the mayor's home was that the only the only protest don't know because all right so neither Fox News or CNN are highlighting the only thing I care about which is the death rate from coronavirus let me ask you what would the stock market respond to and let's say the stock market as a proxy for the economy as a whole what would be more important to the economy as a whole than the coronavirus death rate go I'm not even gonna wait for your answers there's nothing more important than the whole world then the coronavirus death rate and the news doesn't cover it do you get what's happening yet what are they covering John Bolton's obvious about the president being in favor of prison camps for we Gers that's what they're
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Gers that's what they're covering disgusting all right let me say this about the police officers who were charged in Atlanta I watched the video you watch the video can we all agree the video lies right because if you and I watch the video and you said oh that's obviously a crime committed by the police and somebody else watches the video let's not make it me somebody else watches and says I'm watching the same video and the police acted responsibly under the situation video lies if video did not lie we would all look at that video and be on the same page were not video lies every time not sometimes if you think that yes sometimes a video could be a little bit misleading no by the time it's a
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misleading no by the time it's a headline story is misleading doesn't mean the whole story is wrong but there are there extenuating circumstances important details things that would add context the video is a lie let me let me suggest this I believe it should be illegal to show that kind of video now free speech bla bla it'll never be illegal but are there not plenty of videos that social media is grubs for various reasons that are good for society is it good for society to see let's say a brutal murderer that didn't have any context no that's not good for society is it good for society to keep online let's say the KKK is program or whatever the KKK is producing no that's not good for society and so there are these special cases where you see that we do self-censor at least in
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see that we do self-censor at least in the private in the private realm the government can tell you not to look at something like that how about certain types of pornography child porn there's a good example child porn generally considered harmful and therefore even though there's freedom of speech that exception is carved out and we're okay with it because of course you're going to carve out that exception so here's my question is society well served by showing videos of specific police encounters which you know with a hundred percent certainty will be misleading how do you know that it'll be misleading because it's a video they're all misleading they don't know how not to be misleading now a video can be true completely but you don't know by looking at it you can't know that by looking at it because videos in general are so
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it because videos in general are so misleading that no matter how certain you are on any specific video you shouldn't be you should not be certain of any video forget about doctoring forget deep fakes that's bad enough I mean in the future your certainty should go even lower but you should not feel any sense of confidence by looking at a video about anything it wouldn't matter if this situation had been reversed doesn't matter who's who's the black person who's the white person in the video if it's a video it's a lie if you can if society could just learn that one thing if it's a video it's a lie because we believe the opposite I saw it with my own eyes I looked at it I saw with my own eyes that would be the lowest level of awareness about your reality if that's what if they if you say that have been anything else all it was my own eyes and therefore I know everything if you don't know that that's not a thing yet you've
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know that that's not a thing yet you've got much to learn alright so I watched the video and here is my subjective opinion now all of us are operating with incomplete information so when I tell you what my subjective opinion is at the same time and without stopping for punctuation I'm gonna say could change completely as new information comes out so this is my opinion that could change completely when new information comes out and it definitely will and definitely will we will learn things about this case that we didn't know and those things will matter guaranteed guaranteed but because we're all operating than what we think and feel and our current understanding I'll give you my current understanding she said subjectively of what I saw and especially about how the police
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especially about how the police department and the prosecutors handling it looks like a white lynching to me to me it looks like black people are going to lynch and yes I'm using that I'm using that word to be as provocative as ascendant all right provocative for good purposes I'm not just trying to cause trouble it looked like a lynching I'm not gonna use any other term you know because I think we agree that lynching doesn't specifically limit it to a rope on a tree right there that's more of a term of art if you can call it that in this realm of race relations it would be a term that we all understand a black person being targeted and killed for race right now in this case these are two white cops that in my opinion this is what I see and feel doesn't mean it's
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is what I see and feel doesn't mean it's true right and I'll always make that distinction it's just what I what I saw in the video and it's what I know now could be completely different a day from now and I allow that that could happen but at the moment I register it as a white lynching and when I heard that the police were doing this call-out what was my reaction my reaction was yeah you don't want to leave a city and all these innocent people in the city you don't want to leave them helpless because as soon as the bad people realize that the city is undefended it's going to turn into some you know Joker situation right and it's going to happen quickly on the other hand on the other hand that's less of a problem in my opinion than a public lynching of anybody it wouldn't matter
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lynching of anybody it wouldn't matter if it's two white police officers and you know certainly well I mean let me put it in the starkest terms if you were to say what's worse the police do a call out and they allow some crime to be rampant and could affect a lot of people people could die probably multiple people could die just because there's less police although they don't really stop people from killing because they get there after the killing is done so maybe it wouldn't be that much difference and in terms of killing but there would certainly be a lot more proper I think that's fair to say so let's say all of that property damage and maybe extra violence etc of the police not going to work and calling out compare that would that be worse than lynching a black person in public with the let's say the authority of the government of the United States which one's worse no-contest lynching a black person in public under
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lynching a black person in public under the authority of the United States in a way that it's obvious to the viewer that it's an illegitimate you know any penalty would be illegitimate and lynching of course would be the most you know worst of the worst so if it were a black person being lynched by the government I think we'd all agree doesn't matter what color you are we'd all agree like okay that that's my top priority all right that can't happen like I'm gonna stop everything for that do I care about climate change if the government is publicly lynching a black person no I don't care about climate change I don't even care if I think climate change was going to destroy a little freaking world at the moment it's not my biggest problem at the moment my biggest problem is that the government is lynching citizens based on their skin color in public and they're not even hiding it
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public and they're not even hiding it that's my biggest problem all right so do I care that the citizens of Atlanta are unprotected yes yes I care a lot I don't want any innocent people of any any type anywhere to be victimized who does right but still as enormous as that problem is at least in our minds you know of lack of police in it in a city it has some crime potential as big as that is it's not compared to lynching somebody with government approval in public it's not to be closed so I support the police doing the walkout if that's what it takes to you know move forward they're their side of the of the debate do I think that the police should be innocent of their crimes I will hold my opinion on that because I think there's a whole
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on that because I think there's a whole lot more to find out and it could be that there's something I don't know the change is my opinion but I will take what I'll call the Jesse Watters view of that event that when the when the the gentleman who got killed aimed the Taser at the cops had if that taser had hit the cop the cops gun would have been in play we don't know necessarily you would have dropped it we don't know necessarily that the the person with the Taser would have picked it up we don't know that it would use it if he did pick it up but you don't need to know any of that you just need to know that the risk has moved from smallish - holy hell we could die as soon as that risk went - you just made a play for my gun well then I then I say let's let the legal system look at that and see what it does all right I've talked enough for today it's rain news that I missed that
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it's rain news that I missed that matters there's something on daca happening but I haven't read into that yet Roberts cast the swing vote as let's say the Supreme Court upholds Obama era doctor program okay so basically basically it's a ruling that says we're not going to change anything in that regard so that's news but it's it's news that there isn't gonna be a news I guess all right that's it for now and I will talk to you later