Episode 1029 Scott Adams: Let’s Get Me Cancelled Today

Date: 2020-06-16 | Duration: 52:58

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• Our primary identity as Americans

• 3 Simultaneous crisis in America, all caused by China

• China stole all our jobs and bribed our elites to say that’s okay

• The search for a current systemic racism example

• Calculating reparations

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[Music] hey everybody come on in yes I am a little bit late today there was just so much news I had to catch up on I don't think I caught up on all of it like get in here and we'll see if we can get me canceled this week might as well get it over with I figure I'm I'm definitely on that slippery slide toward cancellation one way or another not that I deserve it but I don't know that anybody who gets canceled necessarily deserves it maybe some do alright but before we get on to that what do you need that's right yes you need a cup or a mug or a glass a tanker gel sir sign the canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I know I have some here somewhere I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine the other day the thing that makes everything better

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thing that makes everything better pandemics economics racism you name it it's all better with the simultaneous F go mm-hmm well there's there are really some interesting things happening with the psychology of the country some really big things we don't know her at all shake out yet but let me give you some big thoughts one of the things I think I had a blind spot for was our let's see our brain washing process for children I had kind of made a bad assumption and because I have a blind spot for it which is that children today would be raised largely the same as when I was a kid just in this one element you know not in general but in this one specific area which is how brainwashed

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specific area which is how brainwashed you are as a child to become a patriot to become an American and to see that as your primary identity now I don't know that that's happening the same way it did when I was a kid and I had argued in public before that you don't have to worry about the the Republic being ripped apart because our brain washing and I mean it in a positive way in the sense the brainwashing that we do to our children is so strong that they're always going to have a preference for the country over other preferences so in other words in the end we'll come together but it's a sibling squabble but what I don't know is if the current brainwashing is as good as when I was a kid because they would make us stand up and do the Pledge of Allegiance and we'd have to answer questions and write essays and it just felt like we were being indoctrinated into this American melting pot the world very effectively

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melting pot the world very effectively now it is brainwashing and you could argue that it's immoral it's also the probably the only way to keep a country together you have to kind of brainwash them to be on the same page have the same general feelings about stuff otherwise they just fall apart and there's just too much division which is what we're we're noticing today and so I wonder if the people who came up through the system who are protesting may have been brainwashed differently I think that's a factor it's big question look I teased on Twitter that there's a giant red pill coming maybe the biggest of all time and we're almost ready for it we're almost there so wait for that a few other things in no particular order if you're not following Alexander Cortez AJ AJ Cortez on Twitter if you're now

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Cortez on Twitter if you're now following him you're missing really really good to follow here's one of his tweets today and what I like about him is AJ is one of these what are these people you don't see many of them but he's just operating in a higher level of understanding about how everything works basically the whole the whole reality in the universe and and people so his tweets are extra good here's one today he says lack of fathers is definitely a problem but on a broader level it's the lack of adults that is the meta issue there are many older people the Boomers but there are very few wise ones loss of elder wisdom is real now that sounds really true doesn't it but I think there might be another level to this and it goes like this a hundred years ago if if you had a an adult or a parent and they were going to

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adult or a parent and they were going to give you any life advice what would it look like all right so a hundred years ago here's some adult could be a parent could be an uncle just anybody who's been through stuff before here's the kind of advice they might have given you a hundred years ago work hard stay out of jail basic stuff work hard do what your boss tells you you know get a haircut take a bath pretty easy stuff huh that was a hundred years ago so it wasn't hard to be a wise village elder a hundred years ago I just showed you work hard take a bath eat your vegetables you're pretty much done now fast forward to 2020 imagine giving wise advice in 2020 what's it even look like then would the world is so complicated that people

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world is so complicated that people don't know what to do it's actually too hard to give advice for most people the average adult is way over their head they barely know what they're supposed to do themselves much less give useful advice to other people and this in part I think explains one of the phenomenon I've talked about before that there are a number of people who are let's say internet personalities let's say Twitter personalities to keep it simple who have become somewhat accidental stand-ins for parents and I'm one of them I never set out to do that but when I wrote my book had a failed almost everything and still win big I was consciously trying to capture adult wisdom as best I could to to try to make a little bit of advice if you will or life explanation that would be useful for people of a certain age it's really every age but younger

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age it's really every age but younger the better sooner you get it the better and the idea was that we didn't have these adults giving people advice anymore largely because people were incapable so for example when I gave my advice in my book that you should build a talent stack and layer together the things you're good at but you don't have to be the best in the world until your stack of talents makes you unique and valuable how many of your parents ever gave you that advice zero how about zero a hundred years ago would you have given that advice it still would have been good advice a hundred years ago but it wasn't really as necessary because a hundred years ago you were like well what are you gonna do when you grow up I guess I'll work on the farm like my father and my father's father I guess I'll be a I don't know I'll I'll be some other what what is it what are old jobs

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other what what is it what are old jobs I've suddenly blanking and I'll be a furrier I don't know exactly what that is do they they take fur from animals or something turn it into products I'll be a furrier so things were simpler back then and now I think that if you're going to find any parental guidance you're gonna have to find it from people who are not your parents because your parents are probably incapable of giving you advice that's good enough for the modern age things are complicated now so look to others in other places here's a little eye-opener for you we have three simultaneous crises of the United States I think you'd agree we've got the coronavirus we've got an economic crisis caused by it and we've got a great racial unrest this seems to have you know here's some kind of a spark point because the videos etc here's a here's a little bit of a red pill this is not the big one that's

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red pill this is not the big one that's coming and it goes like this all three of our crises were caused by China China yeah China released the corona virus and didn't warn us sufficiently didn't close their borders the corona virus killed our economy so they gave us the disease they killed our economy those are our two biggest problems and then what about this this racial unrest were having and you're saying Scott Scott Scott China didn't cause laughs that was here that was always brewing yes so let me accept that the the the baseline racial feelings were all always here but if you take away the lockdown you take away the corona virus and you take away the economic impact and you take away the fact that didn't it people didn't have

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fact that didn't it people didn't have options for what to do with their energy it was the spark now of course you needed the specific spark which was the video of George Floyd being tragically killed by a cop without that wouldn't have happened yeah it would have happened when the Atlanta cop got shot if the Atlanta cop hadn't got shot in the back would it happened would you see the protests yeah cuz there it wouldn't have been long before there's yet another video the shows yet another shocking situation that you think needs action but I don't think that short of the situation that China had caused that we would have seen this much pain now if China had not screwed the US by essentially stealing all our jobs and bribing our elites to say it was a good idea which is what's happened if that hadn't happened what would be the

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hadn't happened what would be the current situation for black Americans better because all of those jobs in the let's say the jobs that people need to hold to get the next generation the leg up you know those good solid middle-class jobs those all went away to China so China is actually the problem causing all of our problems and
eventually that understanding will will sink in now you say to yourself Scott Scott Scott that's not all of our problems I'm gonna look at for example our budget deficit China didn't cause our budget deficit yes they did yes they did how big of a military would we need if China were not threatening much less it will be a lot less expensive wouldn't it how much what would the situation be with our deficit if we hadn't shipped our jobs to China much better all right

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our jobs to China much better all right so yeah fentanyl comes from China are the theft of IP our economic downturn the coronavirus and because of all those things a problem that was going to be a problem on its own anyway was exacerbated to the point of what you're seeing now again don't want to take away from the fact that people have real concerns and they must be addressed you know China didn't cause people to have those concerns it just added the match right it certainly added to the baseline of those concerns by making the economic system worse so one of the things that were waking up to is that China is the problem we have a bunch of problems we think our individual problems well maybe it's just one maybe it's just one problem just put that out there for you to think about all right it might and let me ask you

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all right it might and let me ask you this is this the first time we've seen national protests because we've had national protests lots of times in the past but it's the first time we've seen national protests because people believed authority figures because it seems in the past that people were not trusting Authority and that that was sort of the reason the spark and stuff not the spark but a big reason behind protests I think what's weird about this is that the authority figures now have convinced the protesters of a reality that might not be quite the thing they think it is we'll talk about that in a minute so I have a feeling like if if I were to call these protests anything I would call them CNS CNN protests because they are sparked by the news not just seeing that of course but I use them as a proxy here's a completely unrelated bit from Mike Serna bitch's Twitter feed in the news 54 scientists have resigned

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in the news 54 scientists have resigned or been fired as a result of an ongoing investigation by the NIH into the failure of NIH grantees to disclose financial ties to foreign governments gosh 54 scientists were being paid by foreign governments to do research in the United States and they didn't disclose that I wonder what countries were involved let's see reading further down in the tweet Mike sort of itch notes from the article that 93% of those cases the hidden funding came from a Chinese institution it's just China it's just China we have one problem that's showing up in every possible problem we have and we think oh here's a problem here's an unrelated problem here's an unrelated problem they're not unrelated it's all China it's all

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unrelated it's all China it's all China alright so I tweeted again that I've not yet seen I've got a one week challenge for somebody to describe an example of systemic racism now I know I know the people who were commenting to me said here's an example asian-americans are discriminated to get into college in favor of black Americans so that's systemic racism well that's not the kind I was looking for I will grant that that happens that's a fact but we're looking for the specific kind the the flavor of systemic racism against black Americans in particular we all accept that there's plenty of regular racism meaning there is an individual who holds a set of beliefs so nobody is questioning that racism is rampant and I've gone further than that

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rampant and I've gone further than that I've gone further than rampant I would say that a hundred percent of people are racist in different ways in different situations but because our brains are pattern recognition machines it's now something you can really turn off it's not an option you can overcome it with your higher reasoning in your sense of moral rightness and you know your love of the Constitution your preference for the Bible whatever I mean you can overcome it but you can't not have it because that's just how your brain is organized it looks for patterns but it finds false pattern is just as easily as real ones so it's racist by design so I guess your brain is a racist system I wouldn't argue with that but what we're talking about is systems in the country let's say the United States and current ones now I'll give you the two examples that but I think are worth mentioning one comes from Tim Poole and he got a

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one comes from Tim Poole and he got a little he called me a liar this morning for refusing his example because he can't see any reason that I would refuse his example as being an example of systemic racism unless I was lying so I blocked him that that's automatic yeah has nothing to do with whether I like Tim Poole or not because I like him fine and I think he's a valuable contribution to the to the world but it's my rule that if anybody assigns me a motive in public that I block them so I don't really have a forgiveness for that so suggesting that my motivation on this was lying even if he's right my he's not he's not I wasn't lying but just putting that in public is a permanent block so Tim Poole is going from my life forever and again not with

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from my life forever and again not with any I don't have a bad feeling about him or anything so there's no criticism it's just a rule and I choose to maintain that rule because it it makes my life better so nothing personal there but his example was that let's say let's say a black person who is low income gets a ticket for exceeding the speed limit can't pay the ticket next time he gets picked up there's multiple tickets eventually the fact that he can't he can't solve any of his small problems just by paying the fine maybe he loses his license then he gets picked up for not driving without a license the next thing you know he can't get a job because he can't drive to it what are your options you know and suddenly it just spirals out of control I reject that as an example because it would apply equally to anybody poor so it's not systemic racism if everybody poor would be in the same situation now that

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would be in the same situation now that would not be the case if the race police were targeting black people I don't know that that's currently the situation I believe it has been in the past but since I was asking for a current current examples apparently that's not one of them because that that would be more of an example of a police officer being racist not it being part of the system so you could end up with racist results because the people who are in a system that happened to be racists but that's not the system or systemic unless you have a different definition of it now part of the problem is that systemic and systematic and any words in that realm institutional etc apparently everybody has a different definition one of the definitions would allow this example to be to be the one example that I've seen so far so this is a from where this come from damn it was

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a from where this come from damn it was it barons Alex Barons yeah Alex barons argues that there's plenty of data and they pointed to it so yes there is plenty of data to show that prosecutors and the court system in general is harsher on minorities and he said that would be an example of systemic racism now let's let me accept the statement that the the justice system is harsher on minorities so he pointed to some data I have no reason to doubt the data so let's take that as an assumption that's true is that because the system is bad or is it because there are people in the system who are racists and so here's the question you'd ask about that do black judges give harsher penalties to black defendants I don't know do you because if you don't know that do you really know what's going on

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do you really know what's going on because I don't get you know it's easy to imagine that racism would be you know part of the justice system but you know if you look at the police it would be easy to imagine that the police are also shooting more black people but when you look at the data and you normalize it by or at least you analyze it by a number of stops that actually disappears so what you think would be obviously true people are racist put them into any system they'll still be racist they'll still be doing racist opinions and racist things so it's more about the people so in my opinion if you could fix the outcome by changing the people it's not the system unless you say the system is that you can't change the people I suppose so if you have a system where minorities were

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you have a system where minorities were were treated more harshly and you couldn't fix that by replacing the people then I would say the system is broken otherwise I'd say it's a system that has too many racists in it now the tricky part with the the justice system is that number one everybody's a racist I said that earlier so if you were trying to get rid of the racist in the justice system you'd have to get rid of everybody there wouldn't be anybody left so you don't really have an option of doing that so is this a good example of systemic racism what what is your vote let's say you accept that there's different outcomes and it's different outcomes on the same system I would argue that you'd have to have a different system to have systemic racism in other words the system would have to call out your race to say okay black

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call out your race to say okay black people you were treated this way white people you're treated this way this short of that it's now systemic otherwise it's still a problem I'm not saying you don't need to address it so if you're hearing that you're hearing the wrong of course you need to address different outcomes you need to understand what's behind that and if what's behind it is you know some kind of implicit or unconscious bias you want to know that so you can do something about it and fix it now I don't know enough about the justice system to know to have a really good opinion in this category because here are the things I would ask number one do black judges have the same outcomes as white judges if it turns out that they're different maybe one way to fix it would be that you get to request a judge who's your own your own

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a judge who's your own your own ethnicity or pick a judge use whatever ethnicity you want let me ask you this if you had a choice let's say a tweak to the system this is probably impractical but imagine you could do it imagine it's practical because there are enough judges that you'd have this option could you ever say that you could as a defendant that you would have the choice of rejecting a judge just for ethnicity would you allow that into the system now let's say that the purpose of it is to reduce racism so if you're a black defendant you just say to yourself I think I'm going to get a better shake from a black judge would you deny a black defendant the option of having a black judge I would not I would not I would not I would not deny somebody that option because I think they you know if these statistics are correct that Alex

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these statistics are correct that Alex Barron's points out that the outcomes look if you look at just the the data it looks like there's something going on all right so if it looks like there's something going on that's a problem even if there isn't because they're they're riots right now in the streets based on probably a Mis reading of data so if people are believe there's a problem that is a problem in this realm the belief of a problem is the problem if there's really a problem well that's kind of like two problems there is a problem and you believe its problem which might allow you to get to a solution so maybe believing it's a problem is a step forward so how about this if you would not accept that as a tweak to the system the justice system that the defendant can choose the ethnicity of their judge and by the way you wouldn't maybe you wouldn't always

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you wouldn't maybe you wouldn't always choose your own ethnicity maybe you wouldn't maybe you would say you know for this particular crime the thing I'm accused of I kind of wanted an asian-american judge I mean I don't know why I can't think of an example why why you'd want that but you could you could imagine this to be some specific situation where you could say okay I'm gonna pick a judge who's got a little familiarity with this area somebody I think has no no gripe with me because of my skin color I don't know if you had enough judges and that's really the problem right you don't have enough judges if you had enough I think I might be okay with that I think I might be okay with that although I think technically it would be racist too I think it would be racist to allow a defendant to to pick a judge by based on ethnicity but if you could I would at

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ethnicity but if you could I would at least consider that option I mean if black people wanted that what let's take that as an assumption it would be useless to do it if black Americans said no that's not going to help for whatever reason but if black Americans were really really wanted that change to say look I don't want a white judge I live in a racist country I just don't want a white judge I'd be okay with that well let me say I'd definitely be okay with looking into that more does these are the kind of things where somebody smarter might say Scott Scott Scott you're forgetting this other problem and maybe I am what about suppose you had this option a let's say an independent group they would look at every would look at every judge's decision or jury decision I suppose no not jury decision so they would not look at guilty or innocent so let's just say they're looking at sentencing

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say they're looking at sentencing because I think sentencing was the real issue that we're talking about here there may be also a difference in who gets a guilty verdict but let's just look at sentencing for a moment suppose you had an independent body who reviewed all sentences but the identities and the ethnicity of the perpetrator have been removed so that the independent body only gets the raw facts perpetrator did this crime perpetrators uh let's say the the other considerations for what for reasons why would either extend the either lengthen the the sentence or reduce it are as follows persons never had a you know maybe the person has never had a prior maybe the person has I know they they've really helped poor people all their life something I don't know what I don't know why you take into consideration really the person showed remorse as far as I can tell that one

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remorse as far as I can tell that one gets a little dicey ER but let's say that every single sentence is stripped of all of its identifying characteristics and sent to a group of independent people whose only job is to say alright this one looks like this one yeah I mean I don't know anything about the ethnicities and I can't tell because even even the city that they came from is is concealed so I can't even guess alright yeah this one looks like too extreme so you mark that one and it just gets marked down to the average should a should a convicted person be able to request that their sentence be stripped of its identifiers and given to an independent body we don't know anything except just these details they say yeah it looks like this is same same as this one or not I'd say yes I'd say yes that if you were a black defendant and you get you

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were a black defendant and you get you get sentenced to something that even even you suspect you're even just a little curious that it might be racially biased I think you should get a second opinion I think that's fair because that would be a better system so let me say this I think I will accept Alex's definition of systemic racism in this example if you allow that the definition of systemic is similar to widespread and hard to get rid of so if something is widespread and hard to get in get rid of and it's it's sort of what would be the right word it's it flows through an existing system then maybe you could call that systemic racism and again no matter what name you put on it that doesn't make it that doesn't tell you

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doesn't make it that doesn't tell you you should work on it will not work on it because if it's not systemic it could be just regular racism and why wouldn't you want to have a better system so where is the conversation on tweaking the justice system to get rid of those real and or perceived biases is anything suggested I'd be open to that so bring me a bring me a suggestion you will note that Alex Barron's did not get blocked by me because he didn't call me a liar you just disagreed disagreeing is great I like a good disagreement especially this guy this was a really productive disagreement came with facts with a link an argument oh you even sent me a definition he gave me a definition gave me data that looked pretty reliable and an argument that made complete sense and did not insult me or put any put any

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and did not insult me or put any put any opinions into my head to insult me good job Alex I'd like to see more of that let's see what else we got going on here all right so I tweeted this to see if I can get myself cancelled today so this is something that would would have gotten me canceled any other month so if your why if you're paying attention there's something happening with the black lives matter you know movement and and all that comes with it there's something happening here that is slowly but definitely improving their ability to talk about it the fact that I could just even have this conversation about whether systemic racism even exists and I've been doing this for a week and I haven't been cancelled I haven't been cancelled for a week I've been saying can anybody give me an example of the systemic racism basically something that

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systemic racism basically something that would have gotten you canceled two months ago all right two months ago I would have been canceled but I didn't get canceled this week why not why did I not get canceled here's something I tweeted today if this doesn't get me canceled you can guarantee that there's something happening that might be good good in the sense that our either our willingness or our ability to talk about things we haven't talked about before or at least being honest about them may have lurched forward oddly enough all right so here's my tweet and tell me if you think this won't get me wouldn't get me cancelled under normal times which these are not so I said above that I've learned three things from black lives matter so far one is a systemic racism doesn't exist except against whites and

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doesn't exist except against whites and asian-americans again I'm saying this to be provocative because I want somebody to give me examples the more people give me examples and by the way I wrote this just before Alex's example which I'm I'm accepting if you accept his definition of what systemic means I said resisting arrest is the only thing that gets you killed not race shouldn't that get me cancelled I just said that resisting arrest is the only thing that gets you killed by cops not not race how about this I said number three reparations would be negative if you calculated them correctly so those are three statements individually all of them would get me canceled in a normal month don't you agree every one of these would get me canceled I just put three of them in one tweet and I just looked at the comments and it's just like you know people who agree with me and crickets what's happening

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with me and crickets what's happening what's going on here there's something happening because there's no way I could have tweeted this three months ago no way I would already be completely canceled and I'm trying to figure out why and I have some speculation but I'll just run it past you it goes like this number one I'm sort of a unique voice and that I have enough of a track record that anybody who looks into it you know anybody who looks at my writing or my tweet sort of like periscopes they would they would come to the conclusion that I'm actually trying to help literally actively aggressively energetically trying to help and I don't think there's any doubt about that because what would be in it for being not to try to help I do I have some advantage of just like being a public like is that good for me you

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like is that good for me you know because otherwise that's all it is right you know that if the only reason I we're doing any of this is to troll or to build my audience or something I would just be a gigantic public but I don't think that people necessarily get that feeling about me if they're looking at my history and of course with these situations people do that's the first thing they did was like oh you said this let's see what else you've said and and then they're looking to it so I think if you have unambiguously positive intentions you can get a little bit more freedom the second thing is that might make me at least a little bit unique I hope not but at least it helps is that I'm always respectful about you know in least individual citizens who have earned respect now there are individuals who do terrible things and I may be disrespectful to individuals but in terms of any group of people I would

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terms of any group of people I would never be disrespectful to any ethnic group it's just there's nothing in me that would ever want to do that if I did it would be a complete accident you know anybody can make a mistake but if you are respectful and unambiguously trying to be helpful it does give you a little bit of body armor that that you wouldn't get but even those things would not be enough I think you're gonna great three months ago that wouldn't have protected me here's what I think it is that the people who would normally cancel me the suspect that I'm right about all three things that now I'm just speculating and of course you know nobody is that nobody thinks in exactly the same fashion so a million people have a million different opinions I don't want to lump anybody to have one opinion but I have a suspicion that that I have survived this so far I

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that that I have survived this so far I mean I could be canceled by the end of today but if I don't get canceled by the end of today maybe tomorrow at the latest because that's how long it takes to write articles if I don't get cancelled right away it might be because people who look at these three things don't want any attention on them because if you put attention on them it just might not go the way you want it now
somebody says they disrespect all groups I respect that I think disrespecting all groups is actually a perfectly functional and useful way to approach life in fact respecting the group's equally and disrespecting all groups equally very similar very similar you know the difference almost disappears so and let me explain my my other statements so I

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me explain my my other statements so I said resisting arrest is the only thing that gets you killed I could change my mind with just data you know I asked for the data and I said can you give how many people got killed no matter their ethnicity regardless of ethnicity how many people were killed by police who were not resisting arrest it's probably zero it's probably zero if you take out things that everybody would agree is just an accident because you you know there are guns involved so they're gonna be accidents and mistaken identities and somebody thought somebody hadn't got it in their hand but it wasn't a gun so if you take out the things where people have just made a mistake it's pretty much resisting arrest is it and we're suckers if we imagine it's something else now that doesn't say that police aren't treating black Americans differently I accept that that's almost certainly the case but in terms of actually

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the case but in terms of actually getting killed which is really the thing that's sparking the riots in terms of getting killed I I don't know that there are any situations except accidents and people who resisted arrest which again doesn't mean they should have been killed but it does tell you that there's a a rock-solid way to not get killed and if you're not willing to accept that you have an ability to not get killed and it's all on you know let's let's not say all because you know it's a sloppy world what is almost all on you if it's also true and again I could beat I could change my mind with one fact check if this fact is wrong that police don't kill people who don't resist arrest and then I said reparations would be negative if you calculated them correctly so here's the way you would calculate them you'd have to compare to some base case you can't just say something is good or bad you have to say well compared to what the

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have to say well compared to what the way it's typically done is compared to white incomes and people say well there's the disparity that would be the basis upon which you would begin to your calculations for reparations and of course that would just be bad analysis so forgetting about anybody's preferences or you know biases etc just in terms of what an analysis looks like just for anything is you compare it to the thing that would have happened if you hadn't done the thing in all cases it doesn't matter if you're talking about race were you talking about buying a new computer for your company what you compare it to is don't buy a new computer for your company right you don't compare it to what another company did with their computer that wouldn't make sense you compare you buying a computer for your company and you not buying a computer for your company that's what you compare if you were to compare the say they from the point of

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compare the say they from the point of slavery to today if you were to make a comparison of what the reparation should be the proper analysis is to compare the black lives in America who you know came from a slavery legacy how are they doing economically compared to how they would be doing if they had been if they had never been slaves you know if they're if their family line had stayed in Africa and lived a happy life in Africa how would that go now economically the people who came to America even under the worst possible conditions if they survived they're making a lot more money then there are relatives that they left behind the difference is probably something like mumait keys numbers up but it's somewhere in this range I think the annual income in Africa is probably below $2,000 a year the annual average

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below $2,000 a year the annual average income of African Americans today in the in America I don't know the average income is around 63 thousand so that's everybody if you assume that the average income for African Americans is a fraction of what it is on average and that's I think that's true for sure let's say it's 25,000 I don't know if that's close but just just to get in the range so you're comparing a population who is earning 25,000 on average to a population that was earning 2,000 on average so somebody says what about the opportunity costs yeah the opportunity costs also work in the same direction so if if you had stayed if slavery had never existed you'd look at the total situation from that day to today for people who had stayed in Africa and never been molested never been tortured never been enslaved and then you compare it to the other situation now money is

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it to the other situation now money is not the only question right money is not the only question because there's also reparations for just doing horrible things to people but the history of reparations for doing horrible things to people correct me if I'm wrong so I need a fact check on this as well that history is for people who were alive am i right if you look at the Japanese internment we're reparations were paid but unless I'm wrong and I was kind of close to that because that's at the time of the reparations for Japanese internment I was living with a japanese-american woman whose brother had been in an internment camp so that that's how close I was to that you know I was living with a woman whose older brother was born in a prison camp in the United States in the United States and American was born into a prison camp in World War two

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a prison camp in World War two you know because that the japanese-americans were were rounded up and interned now that's about as awful as the things can get no slavery is worse but in terms of more modern things that's that's way up there for badness now
now the reparations they were paid were paid exclusively to living survivors of the internment camps so the woman I was living with did not get a check even though her parents and her brother were living in an internment camp and even though they've lost all their property basically basically they were taken off of the property that they owned and white people just stole it they just stole their property and kept it it never it was never corrected think about that you were rounded up and you were put in a prison camp for doing nothing nothing except going to work and do any job right just your ethnicity

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do any job right just your ethnicity rounded up and put in a prison camp and you know in the 1940s and then while you're in camp all your is stolen the land that you own the I don't know how they do it I guess they bribed somebody in the County Recorder office or something just to change the names on something and they just steal all your land so does it make sense to pay reparations to the people who were rounded up because of their ethnicity are still alive and clearly were just raped in you know in every way that you can be you know intellectually spiritually economically morally ethically I mean just were raped does it make sense to pay them reparations I'd say yes I'd say yes because they were alive as soon as you as soon as you extend that standard to people who have

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extend that standard to people who have passed no matter how reasonable it might be you're opening you're opening up a pretty big can of worms so you can't close back so I think as a standard reparation payments for people who are alive I would always consider that by reparations for people who descended from people who were wronged in some prior generation you have to think that through a little more carefully but if you're gonna calculate it I think you'd run into all kinds of trouble and as I said it in a tweet yesterday how much would I have to pay Oprah if you calculated the reparations given that I descended from abolitionists how much do I owe Oprah I mean if you tried to calculate and any reparations it would just descend into silliness or some kind of new racist system or something so it's a tough one but if you calculated it

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tough one but if you calculated it properly just the economics it would be negative if you calculated the pain and suffering those people are dead you know as tragic as of all was you can't fix things for dead people and if you try to find the ripple effect it's it's gonna be tough to calculate although it's there it's just tough to calculate all right yeah what about people who are mixed-race what about people who came from other countries wah wah wah yeah I don't see their reparations in terms of the cash payments can never happen now there's one version of reparations which is being floated by black lives matter or at least some person associated with them I don't know if they have a comment of you or not but one person was suggesting that black people should receive a basic minimum

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people should receive a basic minimum income for life the odds of that happening are exactly zero but I wouldn't be surprised if poor people someday are getting a basic minimum income you know I think and Andrew yang was ahead of his time I think he will be you could argue he's already been proven right because of the payments during the coronavirus so I think that you know some kind of a guaranteed minimum payment whether you like it or not I'm not arguing you should like it and I'm not arguing you shouldn't I'm just telling you it's going to happen it's a prediction I think it's somewhat inevitable and as soon as you introduce more robots that's just guaranteed so andrew yang was exactly right the more robots you have the more you can need this guaranteed income and I would love to see it in the future probably all

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to see it in the future probably all right do you have a Q&A at the end well I didn't plug in my my head piece that allows me to take questions on this so no hasn't the New York Chapter of black lives matter asked for 14 trillion no maybe
ubi discourages creativity maybe but most people are not creative anyway
all right that's all I got for today check in with me to see if I'm cancelled if I do get canceled you'll be able to find me on the locals platform LOC ALS it's a subscription-based platform so people would get cancelled who still have an audience you can go pay some small amount per month and then they still have their content somebody says

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still have their content somebody says is that the red pill not yet it's common
think about how our the way we think is changed in the last few years just the way we think about everything it's phenomenal I told you it was going to happen here it is and I will talk to you tomorrow