Episode 1024 Scott Adams: Let’s Get Me Cancelled Today

Date: 2020-06-11 | Duration: 56:20

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• Seattle Autonomous Zone…why not?

• Reparations

• Living your life like a video game quest

• Whiteboard: Systemic Racism

• Pygmalion Effect and IQ

• It’s insulting, racist and bullying to say “white privilege”

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hey everybody come on in it's time for coffee with Scott Adams we're gonna get me canceled today and if I don't get cancelled today I don't know what because it's a very canceling day you'll find out why all right what do we need to start the day to make it amazing well the simultaneous sip would be my suggestion and all you need is a cup of our glass oh tanker chalices dying the canteen jugger flask a vessel of any time fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better including practically cured coronavirus it's ending the protests it's making racial division smaller the economy is zooming it's the simultaneous step go

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have you noticed that most of our problems are solved sure Rhona virus under control and when I say under control I just mean that our hospital systems etc look like they're gonna be able to handle it it looks like all of our industries have figured out a way to adapt looks like things are coming back economy is coming back and the protests have wound down haven't they were there any protests last night can anybody tell me because I started I stopped watching news a little bit because it was just non-stop bad news without any nothing new to know it was just the same news it was assault more bad stuff and what what's what's happening so what's going on with the protest one theory is that the the leaders are being rounded up and

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the the leaders are being rounded up and shut down so it could be that law enforcement has you know found ways to push the right buttons to maybe tamp down on some of it that could be it could be maybe but let's talk about the seattle autonomous zone first of all I love the idea I've formed an autonomous zone around my house and I think all you need to do is just call yourself an autonomous zone and suddenly you don't have any loss so I have I've appointed myself warlord of my own autonomous zone I don't know what to call my autonomous zone I was thinking of Scotland does that take it ok I'll have to do some thinking about that use a little bit better branding alright so I'm gonna make fun of the U Seattle autonomous zone because it's a Seattle autonomous zone I can't not make fun of it can we

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zone I can't not make fun of it can we can we agree you can't give you can't give a professional humorist a Seattle autonomous zone and then expect me to ignore it that's not gonna happen but let me say this at the same time this might be the way to move forward in other words not necessarily this autonomous zone but the idea of testing some stuff you have all these people who are willing to live with each other so they don't have to live with us is that really a problem the people want to live their own way it's a big country couldn't we let them test it because I don't think they have bad intentions in fact the whole point of the autonomous zone is good intentions what would stop us from allowing people with good intentions to form their own little experiments and then just run it see how it see how it works so I don't think this

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so I don't think this one is it wasn't a well-planned experiment because it happened somewhat spontaneously completely spontaneously so it would be a good test but in general and I don't think you should be taking over an existing city for your experiment but I would like to see what comes out of this so I'd like to give some reporting about what's happening inside the autonomous zone now I you probably a lot of you saw a funny tweet where there was somebody in the autonomous zone some antiva blacklivesmatter person I guess probably more at Aoife I'm not sure but they were complaining that all of their food was eaten by the homeless now there's nothing funny about starvation less unless you started a Seattle autonomous zone and you are surprised to find out that there are people who are poorer than you and they ate all your food now

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than you and they ate all your food now I don't think anybody's gonna starve to death because there's enough food and there's enough people who would like to give it to them but I think there are a whole bunch of people who are gonna have a little extra walk nurses another week tour too when they realized that all of the places that they get food sort of depend on a lot of things they don't want to exist so they've got some surprises coming here's a little interesting factoid it turns out that Biden is doing way worse than Clinton did according to polls with the Hispanic vote like way worse so Hillary Clinton had 61 percent of the Hispanic vote whereas Biden is down to 58 to 33 so it was 61 to 23 but Trump is ten points

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was 61 to 23 but Trump is ten points higher with Hispanics why is that well I would say it probably is a combination of fact is one of those factors is probably that the the things that Trump was promising to do it's clear he didn't do which is deport 14 million people so if you lived in the United States and you were afraid that candidate Trump when he was running the first time was going to deport you of course you're gonna vote the other way or gonna deport anybody that you have a special affinity for you gonna vote against it but once you saw that that didn't happen and it doesn't look like it's gonna happen at least in terms of 14 million people being deported maybe that's often people and they said oh I get it it's really just about securing the border so it could be a little bit of that but I suspect it's also a lot of it is is that the Hispanic

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also a lot of it is is that the Hispanic population likes law and order big surprise right turns out everybody likes law and order on average every every black community likes law and order on average every white community likes log order on average every Hispanic community likes log order on average so it could be nothing more than the Hispanic community seeing the protests and just saying you know and I think this trying to happen before the protests so if the protests had any impact it would be just a little bit of a of an accelerant but just speculating all right and I would also say that the energy seems to be dissipating a little bit from the protests and remember I predicted that even if nothing changed in terms of solutions and nothing has changed right there's there's been nothing that's like a solution I don't

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nothing that's like a solution I don't think and I said that the protest would just dissipate because the energy would just get used up and I think that's happened now in addition there are other factors one is that maybe they think they made the point maybe there may be some businesses have opened and some people got to go back work so it's probably a whole bunch of stuff they have alternatives at cetera but I knew it would dissipate and sure enough it it yeah do you ever worry that white people are infantilizing the black population in this country by not being honest have you have you ever had that feeling like you're really doing a bad service to the black Americans in this country because you're not being you're just not being honest and I don't mean being a racist that's not what I'm talking about I mean just being honest about the topic of race and racism and

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about the topic of race and racism and how you feel about it and all that and and of course if you're a white person in the United States you don't have freedom of speech in the way that lets say other people do basically every other person if you're white male you have the smallest amount of freedom of speech in a practical sense and in a legal sense of course you have a hundred percent freedom of speech but in a practical sense there are things you can't say as a adult white male that almost anybody else could say so we don't have the same level of freedom of speech now I'm not complaining I'm just saying that's a fact so if you want me to complain I'll do that separately I'm just describing the situation and I think that that's a great disservice to the black population because how can you how can you move forward if you can't talk about something if you can't have an actual conversation in which you could say well here are my facts your

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could say well here are my facts your your facts let's see whose facts are right if you can't do that how do you solve anything and and certainly there's nothing like honest conversation happening I was watching a little bit of Oprah last night on her o n o WN Network and she was doing this looked like I guess you'd call it a virtual roundtable on video was some various leader I think they were all african-american leaders in the United States and they were there talking about the situation and one of them said something that is so anti productive and it goes like this and I don't know who he was I didn't catch his name but he was an african-american gentleman who was saying that if you're white you benefited from slavery meaning that the

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benefited from slavery meaning that the fruits of slavery that you benefited by being you know having a history of free people even if you were not a slave owner if your relatives were not slave owners you still benefited from having freedom that whole time but if you were a black person whose history was in the United States you started from the great disadvantage so that white people have this natural sort of systemic advantage for systemic racism purposes and that is sort of a permanent advantage but then he made this point that I don't think he knows how this sounds because you know sometimes you say things and it sounds one way when it's in your head but with that when somebody receives it because their experience is different the way it's received is like oh that's not the way I meant it the way you received it and that's what happened here because he said that if you were a white person who was poor you still you still owed black

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was poor you still you still owed black people because the the people in your life who came before who maybe you've never even met people who lived and died before you were born your grandparents grandparents etc that because those people could have taken advantage of their freedom and made money but that other people's relatives came through slavery and they didn't have the option of taking advantage of freedom because they didn't have any that even the products of let's say unsuccessful grandparents if you're white you still owe some to the black population today because your parents your great-great grandparents could have taken advantage of it and made money but they didn't so there's so they when you were born you didn't have any money so they didn't but they could have and so therefore that you a poor white American you owe some

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you a poor white American you owe some money to rich and poor black Americans alike because of how much your grandparents grandparents didn't hold them back but rather could have taken advantage of their freedom but didn't
what what's your what is your let's say reaction to that emotionally what is your reaction to that if you are in the category of a white adult who did not was not born with wealth which is probably most of you right probably most people were not born with wealth I was boarded to a lower lower income family now what is your but what's your emotional reaction to that when you hear when you hear somebody was a leader in the african-american community I think otherwise you wouldn't have been on Oprah's chef so he must have been a leader and he said that you as a poor

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leader and he said that you as a poor white person Oh rich black people some money because your great great grandparents didn't work hard enough and take advantage of things is not it's not their fault it's not black people's fault that your great grandparents didn't succeed they had every opportunity they were free and so they owe some money the poor black beat but the poor white people by this reasoning would owe some money to successful and rich black people because they didn't have that opportunity what do you say that how about you how about just you completely about you from head to toe how about you on every court muscle of your body how about your a-hole every particle of your being how about you before you were born and after you're dead how about you completely that's what I feel that's my

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completely that's what I feel that's my reaction now does it help does it help that a black leader infuriated me by making me seem as though it it's my fault that my grandparents didn't work hard enough first of all it's racist obviously but let's talk about let's about let's talk about reparations I told you I was gonna get cancelled today so might as well go for it you ready let's talk about reparations I think you would agree with the following statement there's nobody alive who could be objective right like if you said all right we've all agreed that we should calculate some reparations for slavery how do you calculate it well if you if you hire a bunch of white people to calculate it you're gonna say well they're not gonna do it right they're

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they're not gonna do it right they're biased if you hired a bunch of black people to calculate it the white people would say well they're they're biased they're not going to do it right if you hired somebody who wasn't involved you still wouldn't trust them right so you really can't find any human beings on earth who could do the calculation because there was a ton of subjectivity right so you couldn't really hire anybody to do it in a way that everybody would say oh yeah that's pretty good that's credible so as a as a thought experiment imagine that an advanced alien species was discovered and one of their characteristics is they don't have any bias it's just a weird alien from another planet and you know we meet them we interact enough and we realize they just don't have any bias so we say can you do us a solid favor we'd like to calculate reparations but just look at us we're all biased we can't do it can you with your complete lack of bias as a space Elliott

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lack of bias as a space Elliott calculate the reparations for us and just tell us what it is because we can't do this with all of our bias and so the Elliott's did this they said okay just give me the raw data and we'll calculate this one so so you say all right what do you need and the the space-alien says all right here's what I'm gonna be I'm giving you the the average income of black Americans and you say all right all right yeah and then you say it will also get you the average income of white Americans so you have a comparison and that would tell you where the gap is right and the space-alien would say why would I need that and that you say well that's what you're comparing you're comparing how black Americans have done since slavery and you want to compare that to the average you know maybe let's say economic output of white Americans and who were you know they the oppressors or the descendants of the oppressors and the space-alien would say

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oppressors and the space-alien would say that doesn't make sense that's not even the right comparison and you'd say but that's the whole point that's what we're looking at that's the whole point and the alien would say yeah that's the whole point the point is that you have uneven outputs I get that but that's not what you asked me you asked me to calculate the reparations part the reparations is a different comparison if I'm going to calculate the let's say the the the theft from the black community if you were to measure the theft let's say just theft this slavery was in other words you you stole the productive part of their lives etc and you used it for yourself so here's the here's the number I need I need how does the average economic situation for the average black

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economic situation for the average black person is in this country and then to compare it I want to compare it to the average life of a black African and you say what and the space alien says yeah that's the comparison so you want to compare what would happen to the average black person if they had stayed unmolested in Africa and there had never been a slave trade because that's that's what you're comparing to because if if the people who were brought to America as slaves and then their descendants are doing much worse than if they've never been brought with slavery then that's the amount of reparations that's how much they lost is all the money they would have made if they just stay in the Manfrotto you know what the problem is right they would know they would owe money to white people so the the space alien if he could do the calculation

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alien if he could do the calculation without bias would say the proper comparison is what would have happened if this crime of slavery had never occurred so if had never occurred people would have stayed in Africa they would have had happy lives in Africa and they would have had a certain lifestyle compare that to what what it is now and that's your difference about wrong now I'm just saying that if you are good at comparing things that's the comparison you'd make now obviously you're not gonna make any policy based on that comparison because nobody's going to accept that comparison right yeah I'm cancelling so so and this is exactly the sort of conversation you can't have without getting cancelled somebody in the comments to say yep you're cancelled exactly well don't you don't you think that's cancellation City

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don't you think that's cancellation City I'm just getting started you want to cancel me way to the next part I haven't gotten to the good part
here's question for you how long should I wait let's go to do something first before I get cancelled I'm gonna do some other stuff first have you seen you see in the news or a bunch of alleged racist the statues are being toppled against a statue of Christopher Columbus was toppled and some other statues are toppled because they have their statues basically to racists Columbus was a gigantic racist it before I get canceled I just want for four full context let me say I'm fully unfold in favor of getting rid of those statues why in the world why in the world would you have racist statues it just doesn't make sense like I I get I

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just doesn't make sense like I I get I get that it's historical but so was Hitler you know Hitler was historical does Germany have a lot of Hitler statues so I'm completely with the black community completely with the protestors who want to get rid of the statues now I would do it differently I'd probably move them to museums or something so I would handle it differently I don't think I'd destroy them physically or maybe I'd put a plaque out of it and say this guy was a racist but we didn't want to take down the statue because its history yeah I think the protestors have a point I wouldn't handle it the way they're handling it here's a question for you there is a new kind of discrimination that just started I don't know if you've experienced it yet so I am aware of one person who is a trump supporter who declined to hire a black person recently not because they were

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person recently not because they were prejudiced so it was a trump supporter who was not a racist who declined to hire a black person for a job recently just something I heard about personally and the reason it was this wasn't racism it was the fear that the black person that would be uncomfortable with them in other words it was a fear that it the average black person in the United States would so dislike a trump supporter that if you hired a black person and you were known to be a trump supporter it would it would be a problem for you so it's like a whole brand-new kind of racism they got created because the old kind was I don't want to hire somebody because I don't think they can do the job what that wasn't even a little bit part of this decision there was no part of this the said can't do the job it just wasn't part of the thinking it was purely that

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part of the thinking it was purely that that the that the attitudes of the public had been so whipped up at the moment that it was somebody who didn't want to take the chance of spending time with somebody who might hate them might actually just hate them and think they were a racist imagine that it's like a whole new brand to think so and that's a real story of a black person who didn't get a job not and through no fault of their own through no fault of their own didn't get a job it's like I didn't see that coming it's a whole new form of racism so that's not good all right I cannot wait for that Wattana Besson to figure out that they need systems to eat and I noticed and I'm not saying that as a joke it does seem to be that this autonomous zone we should let it run a

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autonomous zone we should let it run a little bit and I mean that seriously we should let it run until everybody involved with it has a very solid idea of what worked and what didn't work all right because I've got a feeling there's a whole bunch of people somebody said this online and this little little bell went off imagine a whole whole imagine a whole category of people who grew up with video games like for tonight what do all video games have in common not all of them let me let me soften that greatly what do a lot of popular video games have in common they have in common the idea of fighting people until you control territory right a lot of video games are about you know clearing a space you know controlling territory so you have all these people who grew up in the video game age who just created a lot of this autonomous zone essentially like a video game they

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zone essentially like a video game they they just they lived their real life like a video game they you know they they picked up things that they could use on the street like rocks and they got energy from people who would bring them water and food and so they played it like a quest in which they were trying to do something and somebody said hey let's let's own this little zone and then it became a proper video game but what is the thing that all video games have in common they're not they're not true to life meaning that in a video game nobody has to go to the bathroom right in the video game nobody has a bathroom yeah and you don't need to eat or sleep so the basics of life they're now coming there now confronted with maybe for the first time in at least in this form they're being confronted with the fact that these oppressive systems the one that's what the ones that want to tear down they they don't tear down so easily because if the tear them down

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so easily because if the tear them down you end up with whatever is going to happen in the AutoZone in the autonomous zone I want to call it an Auto Zone because that's a car dealership around here all right all right let's go to full cancellation you ready so I tweeted this yesterday and I was being provocative but for good purpose because I'd really like to understand this and I tweeted this what is the right amount of time to wait for an example the key word here is an example of systemic racism before discarding it as Anna Lou it's pretty provocative isn't it because just even bringing up the the even the notion that it's even possible this systemic racism is based on an illusion is pretty racist sounding isn't it pretty provocative but I'm not saying it doesn't exist I'm saying the opposite is that this is a call for examples because

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that this is a call for examples because we have this weird situation in which part of the country seems to have this very solid idea of this thing called systemic racism and at least half of the country I don't know the actual percentages bullets just say half and half for conversation and another half of the country doesn't have any idea what that means I mean legitimately they're not being difficult they're not being argumentative they literally actually genuinely don't know what it means and so the biggest problem in the country if you're just looking at the news headlines and the protests and stuff and their racial division is et cetera well the biggest issues in the country and there's at least a solid half of us and I'm in this half who are looking at it and saying I'd like to fix that one or whatever it is that's making half of the country go nuts I'd like to fix that if I could understand it you know cuz I'm just a fixer I like to fix anything that's broken you know if I can fix

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that's broken you know if I can fix something for you let me fix it but I don't know what it is and so I asked this question to try to provoke people to do a better job of explaining it because one possibility is that this just not being communicated well right so it could be there's a really gigantic problem and it's a little bit invisible to some people in the public and I'm one of them a little bit of invisible to me so they if they communicated it better especially with examples then I can get on board and that can say okay okay I didn't get that but now with these three or four examples this will help me recognize it on my own so you've given me four good examples and now I'll be able to see it one just because I have that pattern in my head though oh okay here's a new situation but now I recognize and that's also systemic racism but at the moment I have no idea what it is so I gave it a week randomly I just said I'll give it a week so it's been one day and I want to

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week so it's been one day and I want to tell you how people have done in explaining to me what systemic racism is shall we go to the whiteboard ironically let's better the ironic whiteboard and here's what I've learned so far about what these are the answers you get when you ask what is systemic racism people like to give you an analogy and they say all right let me explain what systemic racism in this country is here's an analogy and then I say stop stop why are you giving me an analogy it's a systemic racism it's everywhere give me an example just point to it say here's it here's some right here why are you giving me an analogy for something that's so widespread it's everywhere can't you just look at it and say here it is here it is Scott here's a perfect example it's happening in your life right now you're just blind to it because you know white privilege I just

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because you know white privilege I just want an example if somebody gives you an analogy instead of an example does that make you think that they know what it is because it makes me think they don't know what it is because otherwise they would say here it is look right here not an analogy the other thing they'll do is they'll give you a historical example well back in 200 years ago and I'll say ok but are we talking about that I get the point that there's a ripple effect through history so we're on the same page with the the ripple effect from slavery to the present but if you're talking about historical examples why why are you talking about historical examples of it because the problem is now right it is if it's widespread and it's everywhere why can't you give me an example that's happening right now so anybody gives you an analogy or this an historical example makes me think

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an historical example makes me think they don't know what it is or that it doesn't really exist because those are not the ways you would answer a question about something that's pervasive and everywhere and always present you also see people make assumptions that I can't test you see references to original sin which is a reference to slavery as being the original sin that this original sin has sort of pervaded into the present to which I say okay I buy that concept I buy the concept that slavery was a gigantic sin if you want to call it the original sin the big sin I'm okay with all that it says biggest sin as you can get and I'll also agree that has a ripple through history so now show me an example but this is an amazing example this is again another call to history the other answer that

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call to history the other answer that you get and and most commonly and I think about every one of you have seen this write the word salad there's some kind of a long paragraph as an answer to show me some show me the example of the systemic racism you'll get a paragraph with large words and jargon in it and you read it you'll say I don't even know what that means right now what have I taught you is going on when you see a word salad answer to something it always means the same thing because you're seeing it from different people if one person always gave you a word salad answer basically a bunch of big jargon words that don't be anything you'd say oh there's just something wrong with that person but if lots of people do what's it mean and they're different everybody's word salad paragraph is different from the next but it's a widespread thing that happens what's that mean

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what's that mean cognitive dissonance that's what it is cognitive dissonance is most easily identified by a word salad when you when you trap somebody in their argument to the point where it's just clear that they've lost the argument and there's just nothing there there will still respond because people don't like to give up but their response won't make any sense even as sentences and but they'll think they did that's a big tell for cognitive distance the other thing you'll get is a laundry list of what I'd call ordinary racism now when I say ordinary I don't mean it's not bad I mean it's the common kind common common racism would be you you tried to get an apartment and you turned down for being black that's just racism right and I don't think that's systemic racism that's just racism you go in to get a job and your employer doesn't give you the job because you're black that's not systemic racism is it that feels

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not systemic racism is it that feels like just regular racism it didn't need another word so this is another issue you get just some examples of ordinary racism which is not even the same topic because we know what ordinary racism is the question is what's the systemic thing and then there's another category which is bad statistics for example somebody will say well look at the number of black people who are killed by police there it is just look at my statistics and then I say that's actually just bad statistics we don't need to get into that you already know that if you look at the number of people stopped by police more more white people are killed now there certainly is a statistical difference in outcomes but there are also lots of poor white people so if you're going to say there's systemic racism and it's proven by the outcomes that that's a tough argument to make and what do I do about it change

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make and what do I do about it change the outcomes you know I think everybody wants better outcomes if we knew how to do it all right so here here's where I am there are six days left on my seven day challenge to explain what systemic racism is or or the default after seven days will be I will assume that's not real and then it's it's a major hallucination now would this be the one thing that people are hallucinating about now if you've been following me for a while you know that I think just about everything in the public conversation is a hallucination this isn't the one thing that would be the hallucination
interesting comment in the comments somebody says that crime and poverty are caused by low IQ and I was doing some reading on that and it turns out that the IQ story is actually not nearly as clean as you think it would be meaning

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clean as you think it would be meaning we don't know what causes IQ and why anybody has it and we do know that it can be changed a great deal so we know for example that IQs have risen over time and that doesn't make any sense like why would our IQs be higher than they were 200 years ago it doesn't make sense because that's not but they are and we also know that you know if you take somebody from one group who has traditionally low IQ and they're adopted by somebody who has traditionally high IQ if they were adopted young enough those kids have high IQs so there's there's a big body of work that says that IQs are so influenced by and also by expectations have you ever heard of the what's it called the Pygmalion effect the Pygmalion effect which is that I guess the experiment was they

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that I guess the experiment was they took kids and they randomly said some of them were gifted so kids who are not necessarily gifted we're just told they were so their teachers said oh well we've identified you as a extra smart person and then they they'd measure their test scores at the end of the year and all the who were told they were smart got better grades so it works really well with kids it's a hypnosis trick actually that people become what they expect to become that you you manage your life to that thing you think is true so if you were simply to tell people you you're gonna do great my mother for example from my youngest age told me that I was unusually smart and then I would be unusually successful from four years old probably and did that affect me probably probably because if somebody tells you you're smart enough you'll start acting

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you're smart enough you'll start acting like a smart person does you'll say well I guess I'd go to college I guess I'd do a job that being smart makes a difference so you can very much be programmed by other people and your environment so the whole ugh so the whole IQ and poverty question is really complicated but one of the things that we can't pick out of that apparently and I just looked at some of the some of these studies yesterday one of the things you can't sort out is a genetic component and isn't that interesting you would think that that would be the most obvious thing that you could sort out but when you start really you know digging into the the details of it is sort of disappears now it doesn't mean it doesn't exist it just means it's not identified so that's different all right so let me summarize this again I'm not saying that systemic racism doesn't exist so if you hear that that's the wrong message I'm saying as clearly

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the wrong message I'm saying as clearly as possible I hope somebody can explain it to me in the next week because if I can't if nobody can explain it to me without using one of these things which is not an explanation or even close I'm just looking for examples if I can't get examples and I only get these things at the end of seven days I will conclude that it's it's a hallucination meaning that it's a a common belief that just isn't true
in a way that you can do something about it
it now I think that you it is certainly true that there are differences in outcomes there are differences in how people are treated there are all kinds of differences and you could easily make a case that that's what you're talking about but if that's what it is let me know but I don't know which of these things can be fixed if you don't have an example yeah all right here's my last cancelable point I think this should do me in pretty well you're hearing a lot

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me in pretty well you're hearing a lot about white privilege and one of the things that I I'm a big believer in is that each group be they women be they black be they white be the Asian be they whatever group whatever group you're in I think every group does have the right or should have the right let's say they don't have a constitutional right but it seems proper and good and good for the world if this standard could apply to everybody and the standard is this if there are particular words or phrases that you find offensive to your category of people you should be able to point that out and discourage people from using those words obviously the n-word alright now there was a time when I was young very young when I would say to myself okay I get why we shouldn't use the word it's insulting it's offensive but who can tell me what words to use

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but who can tell me what words to use I'm a free person in a free country I should be able to use any word I want I don't want to use that word I'd find it offensive too but I should have the right and you know that's sort of a young person's argument as you get a little more worldly and you understand how things work a little bit better you become a little we'll say less rigid and you say to yourself oh I get it the whole point is to live happily among each other that's that's the big picture right the big picture is now some technical right you have in the institution that doesn't mean anything to you the right to use one specific word big deal yes I do not have actual freedom to use that one word does that affect my life no it does not not even the slightest bit so if you want if the goal is to just live together and not be jerks if you've got a word that offends

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jerks if you've got a word that offends you I don't want to use that word and I would certainly like to know I would like you to tell me what that word is so black people very clear on this point very consistent the n-word it's off the table unless you're a member of the community and I'm cool with that a hundred percent cool with that but I like that standard to apply to everybody now of course if you're if you're Jewish if you're Hispanic you know everybody's got their their word or words that they would say all right not these words all right you can use these words but please just just understand how I feel when you use these other words so don't use it totally cool with that now I would like to extend that thought the phrase white privilege I I think is racist and bullying I do understand that other people don't think that I also don't care that other people have a different

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care that other people have a different opinion of what the word means or how it feels my point is that this is my category all right I'm a white person in America so this is just a phrase that I find deeply offensive and here's why what do you say white privilege you're telling me I didn't work for what I got now is that what you mean is that do you intend to say them maybe a little bit maybe not I don't care I don't care what you intended because that's not part of it right would if you were black would you care that a white person had good intentions when they use the n-word no you don't care about their intentions you just don't want the word to be you you just don't want it in the atmosphere totally cool makes perfect sense to me I'm with you a hundred percent and I ask you in return black Americans don't use the word white

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black Americans don't use the word white privilege unless you want me to like you less because that's what it does it makes me feel bullied it makes me feel disrespected and it makes any accomplishments that I might have seemed diminished now I was born without the benefits of wealth or connections and my parents didn't go to college both of them had failed a grade and in high school my impression of my life is that I worked for what I got and I worked very hard I worked pretty much I work seven days a week and always have most of my life I'd say I've worked seven days a week and I did it because I wanted to you know build something make something accomplish something when anybody tells me that white privilege is any part of my experience I feel bullied I feel diminished I feel insulted and I

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I feel diminished I feel insulted and I don't ever want to hear it again so it's the W word so I will completely respect any other groups preferences for what words to use the pronoun stuff is a little you know that the pronoun stuff I think is its own category and I don't even have an opinion on that I just don't care one way or another well actually now let me let me throw that in the mix let me be consistent the people who have a pronoun preference I'm happy to use it I've never had a problem with that at all and now it is it is a problem if somebody accidentally uses the wrong one and they get in trouble I don't like that I don't want anybody to get in trouble for accidentally using the wrong pronoun but if somebody has a preference call me him or her I don't care why would I care I'm happy to world I'm happy to give people what they want that makes it happy I wouldn't even complain about that you know the slightest this is where I disagree with

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slightest this is where I disagree with well I'm not sure I do disagree because if it became a legal requirement you could go to jail for it or something or lose your job I don't agree with that on the pronoun stuff but I do I do agree that to be a good person if somebody has a preference why not use it all right more whites are throwing around the term white privilege somebody says in the comments yes well more in terms of you might be hearing it more on TV yeah just because there are more white people so so I don't doubt that more white people are using white privilege somebody says you also have educational privilege I do but I had to work pretty hard to get it

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all right safe spaces so am I going to get cancelled today what do you think we'll see so this is why I started the locals account you can see there's just all these topics that there are things that you can say on Twitter you can say on periscope and then there's another level that you just can't say just just stuff you can't talk honestly about and again not with any bad intentions not because you're a racist none of that just there are whole categories of things you're just not allowed to talk about alright why is there no a for me why is there no affirmative action in sports you know I wonder about that if if you're asian-american do you ever look at the NBA and say you know not enough asian-americans playing in the NBA I don't know why is some wire than some things fair and some things aren't now I think the answer would be there's nothing stopping them I mean they have

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nothing stopping them I mean they have all the you know nobody nobody's discriminating against anybody asian-american in the NBA everybody has the same tryout all right so I guess that would be fair uplifting positive vibes well I don't know if I gave you any probably didn't but maybe you need something I think you need some uplifting positive vibes what are your some look what we just did as a world but as a as a United States for those of you who are Americans watching this look what we just did we just we just beat the coronavirus which doesn't mean it's over you know lots more people will die but we did beat it in terms of it destroying civilization it's not going to destroy civilization it's just not we will take losses we will mourn for our losses but we beat the coronavirus we

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losses but we beat the coronavirus we beat it it's one of the biggest challenges of of modern civilization we just beat it we just beat the hell out of it how about the economy are we coming back yeah yeah we're coming back and we're gonna come back harder because we shook the box and then we have all these new opportunities that come out because we're looking at things differently and things we can do that we couldn't do and regulations that'll be cut and things will be things will just be more flexible in the future how about that how about this all the protests and the conversations about race we kind of needed to do this didn't we don't you think as bad as the economic devastation is as bad as the retail destruction all the innocent people who lost things we I don't minimize that these are genuine tragedies but sometimes you just have to get things out of your system don't you sometimes you just need to you know

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sometimes you just need to you know scream at the sky sometimes you need to punch a wall sometimes you need to break something again not justifying any destruction I'm just saying it's human nature that when your your anger your emotions reach some level you it's gonna come out in some form or another either good or bad I feel as though it just needed to come out I think it just needed to move out of the shadows and get into the light a little bit in that yes the only thing that comes out of this is that everybody involved in the conversation gets smarter about it wouldn't that be good imagine if just the only thing that came out of this is everybody got smarter in other words you learned what systemic racism is still waiting for that lesson but let's say we get that that would be pretty good suppose we learn what the real statistics are for police killings

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statistics are for police killings suppose we all learned the same statistics because right now we think you know we're on different pages but suppose we came together and said oh well okay those are the statistics we should look at that would be a big deal a really big deal if we could just agree on the statistics and we're a lot closer to that than we ever happen simply because it's the conversation now you know when it's not the main topic in the news you can you can hit it with your two-minute appearance of a pundit and then it goes away and you never have to talk about it again then another two minutes later from another pundit you can kind of it you could just sort of ignore all the the racial problems if you're just getting it in two minute it's every few days but when it becomes the major theme of the country well you can't ignore it should we ignore it I don't think so obviously it's a big problem in at least in the mind and experience of lots of Americans so that should that should bother you

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so that should that should bother you they should bother you that it bothers other people if if you don't get that you have not bought into society we are social creatures it should bother you that other people are bothered even if you think they shouldn't be bothered you should still bother you that they are bothered and you should care about that you should do something about it if you can't alright so that's the good news good news is that we're the conversation about race I think is going to be elevated to a level we've never seen before and it might it might include some honesty that we haven't dealt with before and let me let me give you the ultimate optimum going to save it so tomorrow I'm going to tell you how all racism and how the left and the right can come together that'll be a whiteboard lesson for tomorrow all right and that's all we have for today I hope

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and that's all we have for today I hope somebody will explain to me systemic racism because I actually do want to understand it I'm not yeah it's not like a strategy or something - it's not a rhetorical strategy I actually want to know genuinely completely I want to know what it is I want to know examples I'd like to be able to spot it myself when I see it I can't do it yet let's move there we'll take it from there and I'll see you tomorrow