Episode 1011 Scott Adams: Let’s Talk About Antifa and Looters Setting Civil Rights Back a Decade

Date: 2020-06-01 | Duration: 1:08:02

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• Message received, time for protests to stop

• Additional protest events and domestic terrorism

• Specific solution proposals are needed

• My tense conversation with Jake Tapper

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well you know what the third act is right the third act is the place in the movie where you think it can't get any worse and the third act was the coronavirus now you're saying to yourself but Wade Scott we had the third act the coronavirus it does seem like we've been met you know a lot of work to do still people will die but it does seem like we've gotten over the top of that so it seems like we beat the third act the place where the hero of the movie has this impossible task but here we are in the in the protest slash riots slash destroyed and retail everywhere and you might say to yourself this looks worse no no no no in scriptwriting terms after the third act quite often there's that part where the Terminator comes back to life for about a minute and then the hero has to kill the bad guy one more time or he's already killed the top

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more time or he's already killed the top henchmen but the the top bad guy is still alive so it's very common that after the third act there's another seemingly impossible problem they get solved now I told you before that I see the protest as of course as a combination of lots of social factors in history and all that and there's a trigger a specific trigger but I see it as an energy problem meaning that there's a whole bunch of people who've been cooped up all winter cooped up for the coronavirus didn't get to exercise often didn't get to work just too much and if season the dog-walker taught us nothing it say you can't have a well-behaved dog unless you burn off its energy people are not that different people are not that different I'm

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people are not that different I'm talking about all peoples and don't make it racial all people human beings we if we have too much energy we can get in trouble and when we've burned off our energy and we're ready to relax well we're easier to deal with just like any other animal and we have a serious energy problem there's way too much energy now I think this weekend may have burned off a little bit but we'll talk about that after the most important part of the morning the simultaneous cept you don't need much to participate all you need is a cup of ugh the last anger tells us I attack MT injector flask oh that's already kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that dopamine it is the day the thing that makes everything better including the coronavirus including the protests it's called the simultaneous if it happens now go hmm yep

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it happens now go hmm yep temperatures falling as we speak well here's my take on the whole ugly situation first of all the protests have reached my territory so I'm no longer speaking hypothetically the places where I planned to shop for my my summer shorts and such don't exist anymore so that the stores that I would normally shop at just got destroyed last night in Walnut Creek now I hear the Pleasanton stores were targeted the mall were that's the one that's actually closest to me but I haven't heard an update on that now I did hear that there was a a protest scheduled for my town which is just walking distance last night but I didn't hear any how come from it because I didn't want to get too close to it and what I heard it was

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close to it and what I heard it was being organized it was being organized as a peaceful protest but aren't they all they're sort of all organized as peaceful protests they just well I guess they're not all the empty files not peaceful at all but at least the black lives matter part of it it's supposed to be peaceful and when I saw somebody organizing one for my town yesterday I had two very serious lead different thoughts one was well isn't the good that people want to demonstrate in favor of you know equality and treating everybody well that part's good it's good that people want to demonstrate to for those things what I thought was amazingly stupid was doing it now and in that way because it would invite trouble and the downtown stores would be vulnerable so I have to I have to be stark about this I don't want to leave

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stark about this I don't want to leave any wiggle room or a gray area so I'm going to say this as clearly as I possibly can for the first several days this triggering event the the George Floyd killing was so horrible that the nation needed to do something needed to act needed to change needed to improve needed to get it out of their system needed to scream and so for a few days I was quite tolerant with the fact that protests brought with them some violence I was quite tolerant when we got a little caught off guard and things got broken and destroyed because I would say not everybody saw coming you didn't exactly know where it was gonna go that chief you know their top priority he was keeping everybody physically safe it was economically bad very bad for the store owners and such but at least not too

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owners and such but at least not too many people died so so at least that was good so I would say that for the first several days and including the weekend an argument could be made that those protests if you will are legitimate would you agree would you agree that protests given the seriousness of the situation and the trigger demonstrations protests completely legitimate I think we'd all agree right free speech people had something to say that's what we do it's America you get something to say it's important free speech go say it all good however not everything that starts good stays good likewise the I was quite in favor initially with the coronavirus locked out of the economy I said to myself a month six weeks probably more good than

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month six weeks probably more good than bad worth a shot two months not not comfortable but maybe still makes sense but if you lock down long enough it just turns bad that's why we're seeing with the protests they started out legitimate and here's the weird thing it started out with everyone on their side generally the whole point of a protest is that there's somebody on the other side of the argument who is on the other side of the argument nobody nobody so again it made perfect sense to express feelings to to get it out of our system and I'm even a little bit forgiving a little bit a little bit forgiving that there was damage and destruction that came with it because there was a lot of anger a lot of emotions a lot of energy can't control all of it even if you tried and in fact controlling it might have made things worse so I don't I I would say I'm

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worse so I don't I I would say I'm willing to sort of in a in a mental social way to offer a pass to everybody who's been involved with good intentions because the people with good intentions created a situation where very bad things happened well I don't think you can completely blame them because the people with good intentions have the right of free speech they have a right to be mad certainly have a right to be mad they there were free people they get to to say what they need to say and get it out of their system and be heard all good but now it's Monday now it's Monday now it's Monday Monday is time to get back to work if peoples were on different sides of this I would even say all right keep demonstrating even even at the high cost that we're

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even even at the high cost that we're seeing if people still disagreed and there was still this any resistance to making things better fairer just better for everybody if there were any resistance to it more protests make sense but there's not there just isn't this you know you have a said hello meaning everybody that black lives matter feels that they would like to persuade to their side we started there meaning that we all watched the George Floyd video we watched it too and you watch that thing and you take sides with black lives matter on this issue anyway right away right away you take you take sides with them they had us at hello now they've lost us so I would say that I personally have felt a great turn in my attitude toward really everything I

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attitude toward really everything I would say that I've turned from completely productive meaning if I can help I would certainly like to to more along the lines of I think I need to just get out of Dodge because I don't think this can be fixed meaning that distance looks like the only thing that I can do for myself so I would look to get distance for many urban center you know I have distance wide so I was safe so far but certainly I would look to maintain that I think cities may be dead you know other people are saying the same thing but it's not because of this specifically I think there were a number of forces from you know coronavirus do traffic to a lifestyle in pollution and you name it I think cities maybe have run their course I don't know that that makes sense anymore you know they've made sense in a different different economic time but I think that it makes sense anymore there seem too dangerous

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sense anymore there seem too dangerous and I think that they will peter out or become completely segregated I suppose that's possible too so here's my take on black lives matter just to complete the thought black lives matter as a concept or good as a concept as an idea as a as a notion that you know we should all want to agree on all good protest for several days even even with even with the damage I'm gonna say you know not ideal nobody wants damage and nobody wants anybody to get hurt but the enormity of the trigger the enormity of the situation I think it deserves a big response now what's

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deserves a big response now what's happened but now we know what happens when we have more protests and we know that they don't move the needle except in the wrong direction from this point on black lives matter of organizers if you organize another protest peacefully you have to know that it will be worse for your cause because you will be thought of much worse I'm speaking for myself but I assume a lot of people would feel similar I don't like to put thoughts into other people's heads but I know my own action toward black lives matter turned this weekend so I'm sort of sitting on the fence waiting to see what happens if things calm down and black lives matter takes it to the the useful field of here's some ideas this is what we can do can we be can we meet with you mister president can we meet with the governor we got some ideas are you open to it yes yes

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some ideas are you open to it yes yes absolutely open to it and if that's the way black lives matter it goes I'm gonna say you know I'm just I'm just gonna let the past be the past try to try to sweep up try to clean up just try to move forward but if black lives matter organizes new events after we've all agreed and knowing that it will attract an Tifa and looters then I would think that anybody who participates in that would have to be considered domestic terrorists along with antiphon because I don't think you could there's no rational way you could understand a continued protests again completely validating the protests that have happened so far even with the damage but if you keep going it's taking a good thing too far and I think that America will just treat you at least mentally as

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will just treat you at least mentally as domestic terrorists at least I would so I would say anybody who's who is demonstrating after tonight I mean tonight and forward any further demonstrations I would just personally see as domestic terror because there's no other way it's gonna go if you know how it's gonna turn out its domestic terrorism if you didn't know or where you really were concerned about something else and it just happened that's just bad that's just a bad situation but now it would be intentional so so we don't have to guess what happens if we do this again tonight so I think I read an article it was Andrew McCarthy was saying that talking about the president designated designating an tyfa and by the way i didn't see in the comments but i know that somebody is gonna say Scott Scott Scott the troublemakers are not black lives matter you know I'm not saying that right I'm not saying black lives matter is

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I'm not saying black lives matter is causing the that they are doing the looting I'm not saying black lives matter of the organizers anyway I'm not saying they're anti feh I'm saying if they do another event they're inviting those forces so we can no longer separate them going forward but in the past sure so Andrew McCarthy said that the president designating anti fara as a domestic terror organization is meaningless or pointless he says he says the purported designation would be pointless because we already have all the laws we need we don't need any extra designation to have all the power we need to fight an tyfa i completely disagree with andrew mccarthy on this except that i of course agree with him on the legal point he's making legally I would I have no reason to disagree because he has more you know more understanding of this field of course so here's why I disagree there's

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course so here's why I disagree there's a big difference between saying that something is sort of ongoing police concern versus a domestic terrorist organization the fact that it doesn't trigger any special laws you know that's interesting but I don't think that's the point of it the point of it is to shame an tyfa and of existence the point of the designation is persuasion if it also somehow turned into you know you could make some special rules because of it well I suppose that might be a bonus but this is about hey mom and dad you know your kid in the basement remember your kid in the basement said he was getting involved with anti-fog and you thought well they don't have any special goals and
and it's just a youthful thing and blah blah blah but have his mom and dad feel if they are harboring a terrorist right you

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they are harboring a terrorist right you see it now right if you're living at home with your parents and honestly I don't know how an empty file feeds itself like actually literally that's a serious question I don't know are they all being fed by other people because they couldn't possibly have jobs because I'm not saying that as a joke I'm saying that it seems like it would be inconsistent with their philosophy to have a job does they be working for some big fascist corporation or something so that's an actual serious question and I've I would love to know a half and out of the eight so if you've got a group of people who need jobs and they need a place to live what do you think that being designated as a terrorist a terrorist what do you think that does to your job prospects what do you think that does to your college application and what do you think that does to mom and dad who now are harboring a terrorist harboring a terrorist in their

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terrorist harboring a terrorist in their house do you think that changes the dynamic mom and dad it's not just fun anymore now you're harboring a terrorist in your house okay so Andrew McCarthy I could not disagree in stronger terms but I do agree with you on the legal technicalities it doesn't create any new powers or new laws I mean I don't have any knowledge of that field I'll just assume that the Andrew McCarthy is right because he's smart and he's right about this stuff generally speaking but man the president is right on with us he's right on on point with that speaking of the president has anybody seen them Trump is still president right right wait we still have the president because it looked to me like the country was on fire last night in don't remember seeing the president anybody see the president are you happy about that are you happy

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are you happy about that are you happy about that president some of you voted for and you didn't see him during a time when the country was on fire his tweets not enough sometimes well here's my take on that I don't know that Trump is making a strategic mistake I do know that the public would like him to step up and do more and fix it you know and be sort of magic use your magic you can go fix it but it's possible that there's no play here meaning that there isn't anything you can do and anything he does makes it worse for example if Trump went in public and said all right I'm gonna give this this speech to bring us all together how would that go if Trump gave a speech to bring us all together what would be the outcome of a really well-written speech designed to bring us together you know what it would happen

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together you know what it would happen right yeah you know what would happen CNN would find people room again they would find people him they would find some word he used this suggests he was really looking he was looking at for white supremacist you know that would happen anything he says on this is gonna is gonna be turned into a fine people hoax part two so that doesn't mean he gets to not do his job just to be clear just because there's no way it will work doesn't mean he shouldn't do it it's the weirdest thing it's like the protests the protesters on some level probably knew it was going to make things worse but they just had to do it anyway you know the energy was too great I assume that most of the protesters at least suspected you would don't make things worse and they were still okay with it because the energy the president if he gives a

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the energy the president if he gives a speech no matter how well written no matter how well delivered no matter how sincere will almost certainly work against and don't you agree because they're just gonna twist his words into exactly the opposite of what he says they will report it non-stop the people who read the news or reading that news they're not gonna read Fox News saying they took that a lot of context they're not going to see that so if P talks in public it will make everything worse because of the illegitimate press and he still has to do it is that a up situation or what he still has to do it he still has to do it it's gonna make it worse it still has to do it somebody says he just gave the speech at NASA how'd that go somebody says he spoke Saturday well you know he hasn't

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spoke Saturday well you know he hasn't spoken at night when the riots are raging some people think that that would be important I doubt it here's the only thing that Trump can do that will work will he be clever enough to do this well let's put it this way so here's the fun you ready here's the fun the fun is that I think you probably all know by now that there are enough people watching my periscope that if any good suggestions came out of it they would get to at least the White House staff so any good ideas we collectively come up with here they actually get heard believe it or not it's very consistently you know you can track this over time that the White House I would say one of its best qualities that is completely underrated completely underrated this White House is really good at keeping his ear to the ground you know reading the room and feeling feeling social

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the room and feeling feeling social medias pulse they're really good at it so not only does the White House monitor or what's said in the New York Times and CNN and Fox News and everywhere else they're monitoring all so you know I would say influencers you could pretty much guarantee that if Mike's Hermitage or Jack pasaba said something that was really useful on social media like an idea or a way of looking at something the White House hears that they actually do watch they watch the larger accounts that are influential so what I'm going to say next I want to promise you it's guaranteed to reach the White House it's guaranteed because they do they do such a good job of watching for ideas and here's the idea the next thing the president should do is be a call for specific solutions he he should you should keep it simple and

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he should you should keep it simple and say what's happening is terrible you know we can't have it what happened to George Floyd is terrible we can't have it bring these solutions I'm gonna have a committee you're gonna have a meeting and have a roundtable we're gonna look at the top five solutions now we're gonna see what we can do maybe we can try them in a few places if they need federal funding in order to try them such as let's say buying more body cams or whatever we'll look into it if the president says we're gonna move to solutions now let's hear your solutions let's talk about it he's re-elected I'll put it in the most cleanest terms you can put it in if the president says I totally hear you I've been on your side since I saw the video no question about it bring me solutions that's all I want to talk about we can talk about how bad it was we can talk about the tragedy but

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was we can talk about the tragedy but understand we're all on the same side there's nobody left to convince there's nobody left to persuade we're in we're in the action part this is the action part tell me what you need to do now of course part of the problem is that what the protesters want is for the other three policemen to be arrested and charged wouldn't you say probably nothing short of that is going to make a difference to the heat of the moment do the protestors really want them to be arrested when there's no case that can be made my assumption is that the reason that the three officers are not arrested yet could still happen because the feds are there but if the reason that they're not arrested yet is because there's no case we kind of need to hear that and we need to hear the the legal argument that says look we don't think they're angels we don't think they're innocent per se but there's nothing there that would

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but there's nothing there that would allow us to convict them do does the black public does black lives matter want to convict three people on sketchy evidence that would and that let me not call it sketchy let's say that there would be enough ambiguity with the other three officers because you couldn't exactly see what they were doing on camera if one guy was just standing there and wasn't paying attention and other was holding the guy's legs it's not entirely clear what they knew and when so there's probably no case because remember you need to get to beyond a reasonable doubt can you tell me that the guy holding the Georgia Floyd's feet the guy holding his feet can you tell me that without that with without a reasonable doubt you think he was a murder or were involved in something that would be a crime with whatever word

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that would be a crime with whatever word you want to put on it you tell me without a reasonable doubt that the guy holding the feet committed a crime you feel it right you might feel it it feels like a crime maybe but I don't know how you ever gonna get a conviction on the foot guy I don't know you're gonna get a conviction on the guy he was just standing there watching the crowd he literally wasn't even facing the action as it was happening and people who were under police custody do yellow about their health routinely so they're kind of used to hearing it I think
I don't know so I think Trump has one play and it's to go as solutions if he doesn't go as solutions I mean ideally I'd like to see him come with one specific solution and then ask for more like a like a homerun play would look like this look here's the deal I'm gonna fund body cams for every freaking cop in

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fund body cams for every freaking cop in the country period nobody's gonna tell me they don't have money for body cams you're all getting body cams now body cams doesn't solves the whole problem right doesn't come close but it but it would show action it would show it would show clarity there'd be no doubt that somebody wants to fix this because it's real money real action and that he could say look this is one thing we can do give me some other things we can do like actual practical things give us some stuff if the president does that he wins and I think he's got to make the same case that I did that the protests have been completely legitimate even with the damage but now they're not because the message is received the day the president says the message is received that's the day the protesters need to stop message has been received protests

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stop message has been received protests have to stop anyway if he pulls that off it would be great but we do have to wonder where he's been now if you're gonna actually question the president's strategy let me ask you this how is hiding done for Joe Biden Joe Biden has done well by hiding right Joe Biden's poll numbers are probably better because he's been invisible I'm not sure that wouldn't be the same for Trump you might find you might find that the less he does in this situation might help him because he's the law-and-order president even if he's sort of invisible at the moment and people are going to say to themselves alright I'm watching a riot on TV every day who do you want to be President the law and order a person or the non lower order person alright here's my strategic

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order person alright here's my strategic suggestion to the black community and let me frame this again as I have before if you're trying to persuade yourself or people who are just like you in some important way you would use one form of persuasion which is sort of the the language if you will the emotional state if you will of the people you're persuading but since the point is not for black people to persuade other black people that there's police brutality that needs to be addressed they're already on that they need to persuade other people they need to persuade white people and everybody else so if you're gonna persuade other people you need to know how to speak in their language and I want to give and this and by the way I'm being completely serious here in case you think this is something tongue-in-cheek thing this is not completely serious strategy suggestion

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completely serious strategy suggestion and the strategy hinges on an understanding of who you're trying to persuade it understand this if you protest tonight you're persuading in the wrong direction okay every every protest after last night is worse for the black community period no matter if it was organized with good intentions or not it doesn't matter at this point it's just all bad because it's gonna be producing bad visuals of you know bad things so here's my advice you want to use the right tool for the job and when when race relations were the worst let's say during slavery and that'd be the worst then the right tool for the job might be a revolution the violence because it's a big problem you gotta use the biggest tool and might be a revolution the civil war not a revolution a civil war and you know

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a revolution a civil war and you know once you get past that and you still have tons of inequality in your civilization well then maybe it needs to go to the court system and then civil rights maybe you do some marching so the civil rights movement was the next you know less blunt instrument but it was sort of appropriate for the size of the problem I would say when we're talking about institutional racism you need a new tool the new tool is going to be the hardest one it's the easiest one it's the easiest one to do it's the hardest one to understand all right so I'm gonna give the black community a magic persuasion gift the thing I'm going to tell you next is so powerful that if you were a Harry Potter fan it's virtually like a spell not all persuasion is this powerful some persuasion is weak some is

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powerful some persuasion is weak some is much stronger this persuasion that I'm going to give you is so powerful and so reliable it's practically like a magic spell and it's one that white people know and black people sometimes now but I'm starting to think it could use a little reminder and I don't know if it's a cultural difference because I don't have good visibility of what it's like to be a you know a black man in America I'm not going to pretend that I have some sense of what that's like and vice versa which is my whole point if you're a black person in America do you know what white people are thinking well you think you do and the and the big stuff but now really same as nobody else knows what you're thinking not really you can get the big stuff but not really you know for the for the totality of it and here's the tip now that I built it up I'm going to give you the tip in the form of a story because stories with

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form of a story because stories with visuals are also stories with visuals are also very persuasive and here's the story there's a shopkeeper in an urban place he's a white guy doesn't matter who he is he's a white guy and he's at his shop that's been destroyed and he's there this morning and he is trying to clean up the rubble through his tears because he's watched much of what he is built for his whole life be destroyed while he watched on TV black man walks up to him with the broom and says can I help you you know my name is whatever would you mind if I help you clean up that's it that's the magic spell would you mind if I help you

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magic spell would you mind if I help you clean up shop owner says I can't afford to pay you I'm broke black man says I'm not asking for pay I'm asking if I can help now if you don't understand what just happened I guess that spell will never be available to you but reciprocity is a super power that works on white people now I'm not gonna say it doesn't work on other people I'm gonna stick with my central claim that you can know a little bit about the people you are but we're we're just guessing about other people I mean you can try as hard as you can to listen to them understand them have empathy but they just can't know what it's like to be another person if you're black you can't know what it's like to be me not that you should but if

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like to be me not that you should but if you like a magic power if you'd like a magic spell that takes you that last mile you do want something that's not as big as a civil war because that's the wrong tool you want something that's not as big as the entire civil rights movement because that's not exactly the tool because the corsa so it was pretty good right now about making sure that we're treated right at least legally you know wherever we can catch it we try to fix it but now you've got this so-called institutional racism it's subtle and persuade pervasive it's just sort of in the fabric it's just sort of built into us how do you get rid of bad patterns in people's heads because racism bigotry prejudice are patterns that we have in our heads which are unproductive if you have an unproductive pattern in your head and that's the last mile remember first mile civil war second model silver

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first mile civil war second model silver rights core systems sue sue the people were not you know not being good people last mile this is the last mile this is this is really tinkering with the fabric if you want the last mile to work reciprocity works every time every time so let me go back to the story young african-american man shows up with a broom helps the shop cleaner clean up introduces himself at the end says keep in touch here's my phone number that's it ask for nothing asks for nothing walks away now if that shopkeeper ever needs to hire somebody in the future he needs to hire somebody who's he call who is he call that's right he finds

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who is he call that's right he finds that phone number of that one black guy who showed up unasked and helped him clean up his store it's five years later he still has the phone number he still calls him gives him the job he calls him and the guy has a better job early because a guy like that's gonna get a job pretty quickly that guy that showed up with the broom he probably doesn't need a job probably doesn't need one because the guy that shows up with the broom he can get a job probably already has one but now the shopkeeper says you know all right you're not available maybe liar the next young black guy that comes in here pay it back pay it forward if there's one thing you can depend on with your average khaki wearing cubicle working low on Moen barbecuin white man reciprocity works every time

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reciprocity works every time I'll tell you the first time that I learned this story it was crazy it was a I was a GoSee 12 years old maybe maybe 11 or 12 years old and I used to shovel snow from my neighbor who was not directly a neighbor but I had to walk to his house and he was a rich guy and I think know why turns out there's some there's some criminal enterprises in the family but he was I didn't know that at the time so here's an old guy who was born in Greece and he was the nicest guy ever he wasn't personally involved in a crime but members of the family were and my deal with him is that if it's known overnight I would wake up before the Sun came up and I would judge the snow with my shovel and I would shovel the driveway and he is his walk away all the way around his house yeah that's had to walk all the way around the house and I'd shovel all that would be exhausting

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I'd shovel all that would be exhausting then you know go to school and stuff and he would sometimes offer to overpay me he would offer to overpay me and I would sometimes refuse because he was paying me too much do you know how much that guy loved me because I would refuse to take all of his money a lot now I didn't do it you know too to get a some kind of an advantage I did it because he actually was paying me so much it was embarrassing like yeah as even as a kid I was like that's a lot you know and and he sat me down one time so one day I refused his generosity because it was just too much and he said put down the shovel I remember I'm like 11 or 12 he's probably 70 he was put down your shovel for a minute I'm like oh no I'm in trouble and he sat down he said I want to tell you something it's

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said I want to tell you something it's like one of the most important things you'll ever learn I'm like okay here it comes he goes when someone offers to give you something it's because they want you to have it it was one of the most important things I ever learned he goes yeah if somebody offers you something it's because they want you to have it in other words they're better off if he take you do it for me and I listened to it and I thought I'd never thought of it that way that he's not doing me a favor he's doing it because he wants to and Who am I to not give him what he wants he wants me to have this money he's decided that I'm worth this amount of money he wants it he's not gonna be happy if I don't take it and I learned that lesson and I can't tell you how well that has served me through life to just understand that if somebody offers something they want you to have it now you have to look you know in case they're playing some kind of a scheme or something but it's but it's quite often

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something but it's but it's quite often the case and it was one of those lessons I learned about reciprocity that because I was sort of extra good to him he couldn't turn it off he didn't know how to be anything but extra good to me and he needed it he needed it that's the magic part I created just accidentally by doing my job better than he expected which is sort of my that's my it's my strategy in life if somebody says this is the job we want you to do I'm always gonna try to do better than that because it's just my strategy let me tell you another one I was in my 20s you know barely barely making it financially and I was living in an in-law apartment below the landlord's home in San Francisco there was a one bedroom one window we had a little window just sort of a hovel yeah

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little window just sort of a hovel yeah but my landlord was this German guy so he'd born in Germany but an American and one day I had a bunch of trash and I needed to get rid of it so I called my landlord and I said I've ordered a dumpster to come and the I'm gonna fill it up with my stuff but it won't fill it up so if you'd like you know since the dumpster will be here anyway if you'd like you could use the rest of the doctor if you have anything you want to throw away and I'll pay for it made him crazy do you know why why did it make my neighbor crazy that I offer to let it use that no charge my dumpster and he didn't mind the dumpster company he was fighting with that but when I offered to let him use it the half of it there was gonna be empty for free he went crazy do you know why because I obligated it but right I

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because I obligated it but right I uploaded him he begged me to let him pay for the whole dumpster he begged me he said absolutely not I just just couldn't live with it he could not live with me giving him something because I had no money and he had a lot I had no money and he had a lot couldn't live with me just giving him something that he wanted he actually wanted it he insisted that he paid for the entire dumpster for me now because I had learned from my neighbor that when somebody offers to do something for you it's because they want to
to so I did put up resistance because you know you make an offer you don't just take it away right so I made my offer I let him argue with me and then I said you know okay because I believed he

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you know okay because I believed he actually wanted to do it and he did pay for that is how the Harry Potter reciprocity works on white people now again it probably works just fine on everybody because it's a universal principle but when I say it works great on white people I'm not saying only on white people that would be racist I'm saying that it's all I know that's all I know right I'm only going to talk about what I know and if you want to influence my Greek neighbor who's deceased if you wanted to influence my old German landlord now deceased I assume you want to influence me you ought to influence the shopkeeper and you want to get rid of the last vile the the institutional racism the part the part that's just sort of baked into the fabric of stuff and you don't even know how to get it out it's like a stain that's hard to remove if you want to get rid of the stain reciprocity what we're

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rid of the stain reciprocity what we're seeing tonight is the opposite of reciprocity you're literally seeing videos the black people beating the out of white people who did whatever all right that's the opposite of reciprocity it's taking you backwards and I would say that I would say that black people in the United States have probably lost ten years of progress this weekend probably I think I think black Americans lost ten years of progress and it's because of this that the tool to fix it was to recognize that we were all on the same side and to offer something here's the offer President Trump how can we be successful together how can I help you get reelected this is the extreme example I'm not saying you should agree with this one necessarily but do it too demonstrate the technique president Trump we're going to help you get reelected here are some things we need

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reelected here are some things we need can we talk about these five things and might them make things better what do you think he'll say yes yes he's gonna say yes if black lives matter is even a little bit serious about fixing anything versus having it as an issue if they're even a little bit serious about fixing it it's right there the table is cleared the invitation is on all the tools are in place all the ears are listening all the eyes are looking just give us something give us something where we can help you tell us how we can be useful do you know why people like being useful it's true again when I say white people like to be useful I'm not saying other people don't I'm just sticking to what I know I'm not going to speak for anybody else I really can't even speak for white

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I really can't even speak for white people in general but I feel like I get a little bit of you know sense of that life if you know what I mean somebody says they just want the issue I'm sure some do but so just to make it as clear as possible my patience for the protesting ended last night from Monday on is war it's just war if if you need it to be war it's gonna be war but the smart play would be to be productive so compare if you will how Fox News treats the fine people hoaxes compared to CNN so CNN even you know even as recently as yesterday was running the fine people hoax they put it in the form of quoting Susan Rice who quoted to find people

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Susan Rice who quoted to find people hoax but they don't fact-check it they just run it like it's some kind of fact
I will I will tell you that I had a tense exchange with Jake Tapper after I blocked him and called him a liar in public so he did contact me and we had some back and forth on that extensively and here's how he was the outcome that the outcome of that is I will I withdraw my accusation that Jake Tapper is a liar on the topic of the fine people Oakes so based on the conversation the exchange it is clear he's not lying it's clear that he's experiencing cognitive dissonance that's pretty severe now he I imagine you wouldn't like to hear that either but that's how cognitive dissonance works you're the only person who doesn't know you have it so cognitive dissonance is now something

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cognitive dissonance is now something you can discover in yourself it's just something you can see in other people that's unfortunately that's the nature of it and here's how you can tell if you so he and I had an exchange in which you know he's a very reasonable you know the guy very smart so it doesn't take long to kind of climb down to which facts you disagree on so guess which facts we disagreed on on the factual level that we disagreed on turns out none when when we took it down to the fact level there actually weren't any facts we disagreed on isn't that weird there were no facts we disagreed on we'll be surprised so once we grilled the facts I said well okay that was pretty clear the president disavowed the racist he he talked to his assumption that there were some people there who were not racist or just there

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there who were not racist or just there about the statues and then here's the key part and that I said but it doesn't matter if he was right or wrong about the composition of the crowd it's not relevant because he stated his assumption and that he spoke to the assumption if it turns out the crowd was a different composition than he thought there's no story there it just means that he doesn't know something that nobody else knows either because do you know who else knows the composition of the crowd as Sharla still nobody nobody did a poll they were they were dressed and except for the people marching with tiki torches nobody was dressed to show what their opinion was they were just dressed in normal clothing how can you tell what their opinions were so my point was once I said to Jake it doesn't matter what the composition the crowd is he spoke to his assumption and it was very clear what do you think Jake's reaction to that was well it was mostly talking about how the crowd actually didn't have

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about how the crowd actually didn't have any good good people in and then I would say well that's irrelevant because he stated his assumption and he talked to it if you're saying he had an accurate perception if it was in the crowd that would be just like everybody else because none of us know who is in the crowd exactly and so there'd be no story
but the point is that the way you identify cognitive dissonance if somebody can't address a point they can only address a different point so I kept trying to get him to address the point that the worst it could be is that he was confused about who was there just like everybody else and he wouldn't adjust that point he would only say well that's your opinion or there were bad people there all right so what's that if you can't address the point it's always cognitive distance or somebody's lying

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cognitive distance or somebody's lying or they're misleading I would say that there's nothing about him which suggests they is lying but his inability even even talked about the topic which is they Trump talk to his own assumptions and stated them clearly so there's nothing there he couldn't go there he couldn't even deal with that point he would only deal with other points no matter how many times I continue to make the only one point that matter now compare that to how Fox News treats the hoax as recently as today all right so it was in the context of some other story they were just giving some context and here's how Fox News and one of their articles on their online treated it said President Trump quickly condemned white supremacists so that's that's the first sentence from Fox News about the fine people hoax the president quickly condemned white supremacists now you could argue quickly

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supremacists now you could argue quickly because as I've said many times everything good should happen sooner no exception if it was a good thing to condemn them you can't be quick enough so you could argue about it quickly but I don't think that's a big big point and they said while noting that and not everyone protesting the statue removal was necessarily a neo-nazi or white supremacist that's fair that's exactly what he did he noted that not all the protesters were there for because they were neo-nazis or white supremacist and that says however his comments were widely misinterpreted and then it links to Steve Cortes article describing how it was misinterpreted as praising white supremacist galvanizing antiphon bolstering its momentum below so Fox News reports this exactly right exactly right they showed what he said about white supremacists they showed basically they showed the

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they showed basically they showed the whole context so now you go over to CNN and I saw if you if you look at the individual videos if you go on social media you're gonna see lots of videos especially if you have any kind of Trump supporters as followers you can see lots of videos of the protesters beating up other people shopkeepers protesters beating up some white guy who was standing on the sidelines shopkeepers pulling somebody out of a truck I'm sorry protesters pulling somebody out of a truck so on social media I'm getting this non-stop diet of protesters being violent against people were not protestors on CNN they've got this one video of a cop beating up a black woman and you can't tell if he was a resisting

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and you can't tell if he was a resisting arrest I mean he was punching her in the face which I'm assuming was police abuse but that was the one thing that CNN decided to run while while the country is on fire they looked at all these videos of people behaving badly and the one they picked out is the one that would make make it worse it's the only one the only one that would make the violence worse was that one video everything else would would be more of a caution to say oh we've gone too far now we've got a you know we got a slowdown and be less violent they show the only one that would make it worse amazingly you're thinking of a different video in in the comments there was a different video of a black woman punching a white cop and then a black cop punched the black woman that's one video there's a separate video on CNN of two cops arresting a couple and I couldn't tell

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arresting a couple and I couldn't tell their ethnicities of either the cops or the couple because we're sort of directing far away but then one of the cops ends up punching the wife who was resisting arrest so I'm not defending the cop I'm just saying that that's the one they pick amazing so a let singer Lana Del Rey posted some video on Instagram of looters so it was just video that you're seeing everywhere of looters what do you think happened when Lana Del Rey posted just video of looters looting just like everybody else is posting turns out there was a big backlash from her fans who thought that she was showing this cases of looters and that would get him in trouble that's right she had to take down her post because her post had the faces of looters and those looters might get in trouble and she took it down

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get in trouble and she took it down there's no I don't have anything to say about that but there are a lot of fans who were willing to say that they were supporting looters destroying innocent people's property which is shocking it's shocking all right
that is the big news of the day now I think we're all having the same weird reaction to the coronavirus situation that weren't we having some kind of a pandemic problem or something that just completely is out of the news in two weeks we're gonna learn a lot about how dangerous it is to have a lot of people in one place so we should see either a gigantic spike in covent cases or what if we don't what if we don't because you know a lot of the people protesting

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know a lot of the people protesting we're young people and they're not exactly the most at-risk what if we don't because if we don't see anything that looks like a big spike in kovat cases I've got a feeling that at least in terms of safety we're back how could we fix this Scott well it depends what you're fixing my suggestion for the president is to say the protests are over you made your point bring me your suggestions I think if he did that would be over tomorrow I don't think he's gonna do it I don't know why I mean we don't know why he's missing in action if if I had to if I had to hazard a gas of why the president is a little bit low profile it's either a combination of he doesn't want to make it worse and I do think that's a risk and that would be not sure I would criticize that because he just might think it would make it

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he just might think it would make it worse and he might be right but the other possibility is that there's something brewing I don't think you can rule that out and buy the something brewing I mean something international so don't be surprised if all the coronavirus stuff plus the riots has made at least one of our adversaries a little adventurous in other words there may be some foreign adversary that has seen that they can take advantage of the situation so it could be just putting all the possibilities out there I'm not predicting it I'm just saying one of the things that I would look at for why the president is a little quiet on this situation might be there's something big brewing we'll see who do what if they had done something productive I don't know who they is but if you mean the protesters I would say that would be naive because remember you have to look

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naive because remember you have to look at their from the energy standpoint there's a certain amount of energy that just needed to be released and you can want it not to but it's still gonna be released you're wanting it not to be released won't help at all so I think it just had to be released maybe this weekend was enough we'll see civil unrest brewing well it's the weirdest civil unrest in the world because everybody agrees what kind of silver arrests do you have when everybody is on the same side I mean really I don't think you can call the looters or anti fascist civil unrest black lives matter was trying to be productive and I give them credit for that but if they continue the protest knowing that it attracts anti-fog looters then then I would say it's both stupid and I an

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would say it's both stupid and I an unproductive and they should their credibility would be basically gone at that point
yeah there's some notion that China's trying to make it worse there's some notion that Russia is trying to make it worse poor SpaceX you know the Elon Musk's tremendous success at NASA's you know the country's success I guess I'm so it's so so sad that that got overshadowed by the bad events because that could have been just amazing I mean it was amazing all right that's all I got going for now and I will talk to you maybe tonight what is today what's the date today Oh today's the first I did promise you that I was going to do the evening

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that I was going to do the evening podcasts the evening periscopes until June 1st so I may not be here tonight because I got to tell you that doing two of these a day it is really really hard not hard in terms of the content hard in terms of what it does to my day because I'm always getting ready for one and then I go to sleep in them getting ready for so I may take my leave tonight if you don't see me on periscope tonight it's because I decided to take the night off if if events go bad tonight I might be back on just because there's something to talk about but I feel like we made it to June first can we have a little standing ovation for all of us to get to June first I'll give you one standing ovation you know because when

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standing ovation you know because when we were looking at this in February June was a long ways wedding June was a long ways away but ladies and gentlemen and anything anything else you want to designate yourself it's June I think we beat the coronavirus sure we've got this little protest thing going on but that's not gonna last forever it's June and it's time to get the country back to where it belongs so I would expect a good summer and an amazing end of the year I think this business this ugliness is you know it's gonna linger for a little while but we're talking a week or two we're not talking forever I think we made it I think we made it at least in terms of the coronavirus for those of you who are getting super tense about the protests I can almost guarantee that we're not

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can almost guarantee that we're not going to have them next week because the energy will have you know filtered out by them so you might have a few more days of it it might be bad but I wouldn't worry about it being the end of civilization because we don't want that not enough people want that so all the applauses are catching up in the in the comments so thank you for joining me in that mutual round of applause I think we made it I think we got there I think we did it congratulations I will see you at least tomorrow I hope not tonight if I do means there's trouble tonight let's hope not