Episode 1006 Scott Adams: Brainwashing the Public, Enemy of the People, Social Media Censorship

Date: 2020-05-30 | Duration: 46:46

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• BLM and Antifa don’t like each other

• Will CNN ever apologize for framing General Flynn?

• Looting…leads to shooting

• 350,000 Chinese students are studying in America

• The risk of foreigners working in U.S. social media

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hey everybody my name it's time to talk about all the fire and protesting and looting and shooting well we hope there's more looting than shooting do we I don't know I guess that would be a toss-up depending on your point of view but as you pour in here to experience the delight which is coffee with Scott Adams you might ask yourself what do you need to be prepared for this well all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass of tanker chelators tying to canteen jugger flask a vessel of any kind filled with your favorite liquid I like coffee and joining me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better including the riots including the pandemic which I kind of forgot about it's called the simultaneous if it happens now go yes I feel the crowds dispersing huh

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dispersing huh one sip is all it took well the weather is good and the people have been locked up at home too long and it's time for some protest and yeah some protesting we're all going to pretend it's all real today in fact none of its real that's all it's all the result of brainwashing the brainwashing of course starts with fake statistics about who is killing you most people believe they're real statistics but they're fake and then of course the sides are chosen and the media narratives come out and people are assigned at their opinions and once people have been assigned their opinions they know which side they're on and then they go fight and when they fight they burned cars and they create good visual effects and the people who brainwash them in the first place film the stuff that's on fire and then make money from it by selling ads to pharmaceutical companies I told

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ads to pharmaceutical companies I told you they had started a new cartoon that basically is gonna mock the CNN it's called robots read news it's just a robot who never moves he just reads the news so here's today's let me see let me ask you do you think that the comic I'm gonna read you don't really need to see it because it's just a robot looking at you do you think that this accurately captures CNN so the robot reading news says and today's news we frame a military veteran and actively participate in a coup against the legally elected government then we'll whip up some racial frenzy and make money from pharmaceutical ads while we film while we film you burning each other's yet in other news protesters are attacking our headquarters and we don't know what we did to deserve it does that kind of describe what we're seeing now the weird thing is I told you that it's hard to make a comic that's absurd enough that it doesn't match real-life everything I just read is actually right

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everything I just read is actually right from real life I didn't have to make up anything they did literally frame a military veteran they spent years doing that they did participate in a coup against the legally elected government they really did that that actually happened and then they're whipping up a racial frenzy and they're making money off it by selling pharmaceutical ads and they are they are monetizing the filming of citizens burning each other's because they whipped us into a frenzy and caused us to burn each other and then their headquarters did get attacked I didn't make up a single thing everything in this comic actually literally specifically happened I couldn't get on the other side of parody sometimes the parody Hill is too high you're like I'm gonna find reality and then I'm gonna take it a little bit further because that's what makes it a joke and then you can't what what do I

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joke and then you can't what what do I take further then framing a military veteran while participating in a coup against the United States well what's the level above that I don't know what satanic satanic stuff barely I mean you could say that's a little bit worse you could add you could add Satan worship on top of this but even if you added Satan worship on top of the stuff they already did it would only it would only change the end result by such a small percentage you wouldn't even notice I mean once you've framed a military veteran and tried to overtake thee or overthrow the United States I don't know that there's much left for parity so so my view you know sort of the persuaders view of what we're watching i've told you that there are various filters on things and we're all looking at today's news through different filters some

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news through different filters some segment of the population is saying damn it there's too much too much bias and discrimination and we need to protest against it all right there are those who know that they're behind all of this and know that none of its real that's another filter and then there are people like me who only see it as it's persuasion itself in other words I only see the news in terms of who got brainwashed to do what I don't see it in terms of these these people are right these people are wrong other people see it in terms of power the it's a it's a power struggle the details of who did water said what are actually irrelevant because nobody cares about who said water did what it's all just being used for power now power of course there's another word for persuasion because it doesn't have to be physical power it could be political power that's persuasion and even even a war I would say his persuasion because the point of killing

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persuasion because the point of killing people is to get them to stop fighting so I get the people are still alive to stop fighting as well your comments are funny so when I looked at the and I see the protesters and I see the anti-shah and black lives matter are protesting together and they don't really like each other I don't know if you knew that but black lives matter would like to have businesses and be successful so in fact check beyond this fact check me too let me know if this is true or false black lives matter would like among other things they have a number of things that they would like like fixed including police police actions but very high on the list the black lives matter would be just improving yeah the the life the economic life especially you know the judicial you know the the justice system plus the economics of

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justice system plus the economics of black life in America they'd like that to be better now of course some of them may be funded by who knows what and some of them may be more political but as a group they want what's better for black people in America is that what anti foul wants is an tyfa marching for black lives matter people to have better economic outcomes I don't think so I don't think so I think that they're trying to destroy everything that is and everything that is including includes a lot of black owned businesses so we're very close very close I think to black lives matter just saying you know screw it we're just gonna be Republican because we can make that work if black lives matter is just a thought experiment if tomorrow black lives matter said we're going to change our strategy if we pair if we if we team up with the

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pair if we if we team up with the Republicans number one they will accept us they would you just have to agree to respect the Constitution respect the rule of law and play with them the rules and then conservatives respect you every time it's very easy so if black lives matter or just let's say the black community in general it doesn't have to be
be black lives matter involved but let's say the black community just said alright screw it we're just gonna look out for our own best interest we're gonna pair up with the Republicans and we have more in common with the Republicans who are just trying to make money and have a good lives because it turns out that's what we want - yeah and maybe maybe the black population doesn't want open borders because if they have open borders it makes the the Latino Hispanic vote that much more powerful and necessarily might work against their interests because because they get marginalized by an even larger minority

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marginalized by an even larger minority group that would just suck up all the attention so it feels like the long-term trajectory for black voters is the Republican Party but they have to get past a mental block and the mental block is number one thinking that they wouldn't be welcome right if you are black and you had to open you know watching the fake news for your whole life would you think that you would be welcome in the Republican Party like how would you think you would be treated well my guess is very very welcome and that that's a strong guess meaning I'm sure of it very very welcomed because everybody who joins the Republican Party who simply agrees to follow the rules just follow the rules Constitution rule of law you know be nice to your neighbor that's it that's it that's the whole that's the whole deal you do those

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that's the whole deal you do those simple things and you will not only be embraced by the Republican Party you'll be absorbed you'll just be a Republican so if if the brainwashing holds then black people and empty fall will continue marching together without noticing they're on opposite sides which is what's happening now anti-fire just wants to burn everything down black lives matter would like to build something to build something valuable for black people you don't really get that if everything's burning down so if black people in this country want to make some money and get serious about helping their own situation I mean just being selfish yeah because our system is designed to allow you to be selfish completely publicly you know that's what capitalism is that's what that's what democracy is that you can be selfish in public I want

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that you can be selfish in public I want to vote for this because it lowers my taxes I'm gonna you know I'm gonna compete to this business because it's good for my bank account you're allowed to be selfish the system encourages it so I would say to the black community in the United States if you want to be selfish and I recommend it because everybody else is under this system there's certainly a way you can do better and I don't think it's doing what you're doing because the Republicans do have the secret they do have the secret of how to make money and I've had a better life it does seem that they have figured that out and for the if anybody's knew by the way I'm neither a conservative nor a Republican I'm an observer I would associate myself with being left to Bernie socially in terms of social issues but if I observe who seems to be happier and I observe as a third party just you know uninterested

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third party just you know uninterested party watching it really feels like Republicans have figured out a system that works pretty well here are the rules if you follow the rules we love you we love you you followed the rules so did we that's it end of the story it's a pretty simple system and it works every time
I wonder if CNN will ever apologize for framing Flynn because certainly they could argue well we were just following the news of where it went and you know we were just reporting what other people said that was the news that we do so I suppose they could excuse it away the net effect of it is they framed they framed a patriot and not just a patriot but a veteran and not just a veteran but in general and not just a general but somebody who had just been who've just been appointed to a high position in the government by the legally elected president of the United States name one

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president of the United States name one thing that Trump has ever done that's true that's the hard part it's true it really happened and it's worse than what CNN and and Schiff and company did framing Flynn and trying to overthrow the government of the United States if you were to make a rank of all the bad things that anybody's done on either side all the worst things that Trump has done the worst ones and then you compare it to what the the anti-trump errs are known to have done so now we know that they framed Flynn now we know that they were running a coup to overthrow the government we know that now that's not there's no longer in question and and I ask you on a scale of one to ten where would you put framing a veteran in the United States where would that be on the scale of one to ten that's a 10 now you could maybe you say you know rape and murder are the only tens and everything

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murder are the only tens and everything else has to be less than that okay but in terms of how it offends me not in terms of the impact on the victim necessarily but in terms of how it offends my sensibilities framing a veteran is a temper tab that's a tab if you try to get on the other side of that I don't know what that would be because even you know murdered ladies a murderer rape are arguably a lot worse for the victim not arguably there are a lot worse for the victim but they're now they're not morally worse they're just worse for the victim morally they're 10 out of 10 just pinning the dial to the worst things you could ever do now now let's tell let's do the exercise all right that's what the anti-trump errs have done framed a veteran knowingly lied about it for a year knowingly and then and then they and then they tried to overthrow the

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then they tried to overthrow the government to you through this this thing alright now let's do the worst thing that Trump ever did well today there was that Twitter yesterday that was tweet about looting and shooting where's that on a scale of one to 10 a 1 a 1 maybe I have a scale of 1 to 10 all right so that's the worst thing I can think of now all right what's the other worst thing the president Trump is done and I don't think you can count a mistake because you might say he made a mistake doing this of that but I'm not talking about mistakes let's talk about things that people did intentionally things they knew they were doing okay so let's say he he's accusing Joe Scarborough of murder and and there's no evidence to suggest that there's any murder or crime any crime much less any murderer so how bad is that on a scale of one to ten compared to a coup and

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of one to ten compared to a coup and framing a veteran so where where is where is tongue-in-cheek accusation about Scarborough that literally nobody believes well I take that back people who already believe that you know may want to keep believing it but they already believed it people who had never heard the rumor just sort of laughed it off
off anybody who's a little bit smart about politics knows that the president was saying it just for the effect not because he thinks it's true so where is that on a scale of one to ten to two maybe would you give that to three there's literally just words that nobody believes saying words that nobody believes because they know you're just saying it for the effect a scale of one to ten one two how about calling those countries remember when the president called those countries countries where is that and the scale of one to ten well first of all

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one to ten well first of all he was talking about their economic situation obviously in context that's like a zero this is not even real news it's more like fake news because obviously he didn't mean it racially I think smart people know that that it was just about the countries themselves not producing you know people not necessarily producing people who'd gone to good colleges and stuff and may have potentially less economic value that was the nature of the question his infidelity somebody says yeah what about the president's infidelity scale of one to ten don't care about a zero because I don't care that's not a nothing to do with us how about the president allegedly paying stormy Daniels a 1 a 0 these are all nothings literally what am I missing something can somebody list the worst thing that Trump is done yeah somebody says golfing

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Trump is done yeah somebody says golfing yeah he golfed he golfed when there was some business to do zero and I was like he's not always available zero so the fact that anybody thinks these things are roughly even is amazing and now just for fairness it looks like Leland Vitter of Fox News was reporting on site at the protests around the White House last night and he was surrounded and threatened by antiphon it looked like it was all anti foie and not black lives matter but I only saw clips so I can't say that for sure but it looked like it was all anti far who was yelling because he's at Fox News Leland Vitter is and they surrounded him and the police wouldn't help apparently until until later you know some riot police came and did help so we see that the rioters don't care who it is whether it's CNN or Fox News so you can

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whether it's CNN or Fox News so you can see that the rioters about taking aside they're not taking aside they just want to destroy things at least the empty font people not the black lives matter people who are the opposite and would like to build something how many of you think George Soros is behind the riots can I see that in the comments how many of you think that George Soros not only and here I'm not talking about funding groups which in turn fund any of the people who were there so we know that black lives matter for example receives funds from a group that Soros is part of the funding of that group he's not the whole funding but I think he's part of it how many of you think that George Soros is causing is causing the all the trouble alright so I don't know if if we'll see any comments on that coming through here's the thing I don't think is George Soros

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the thing I don't think is George Soros it's just the news the news is the one who who gets people to think of the world the way it is the news is the reason that people are hitting the streets that plus good weather that plus having been locked up for weeks is what we is what working that plus yeah there was a trigger of George Floyd being killed on camera and that obviously was the trigger let's talk about how Facebook versus Twitter handled the president's tweet in which he said what saves that quote where where there's looting looting where there's when the looting starts the shooting starts that was the quote now apparently that quote has some history with I don't know George Wallace and has some racial history but I would barely be surprised if the president was thinking of it that way or even knew that had a racial past he his claim when he clarified it which

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he his claim when he clarified it which I accepted under the 48-hour rule for clarifications if you don't know the rule the 48-hour rule for clarifications goes this way if you say something in public or even private and somebody takes it away that causes trouble in other words their interpretation of what you said is they're outraged by it you have 48 hours to either apologize if it's what you really said and what you really meant and an apology is warranted or to clarify to clarify that that's not what you meant and I and my rule is that even if you think the clarification is
you should always accept it because otherwise you're just reading people's minds people people should be able to be the only source for their own opinion in other words nobody should tell me what my opinion is but I can tell you what my opinion is I should not tell you what your opinion is ever there under no circumstances should I tell you what

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circumstances should I tell you what your opinion is but you can tell me what it is that's always fair so anyway let's skip ahead to how Facebook and Twitter took that tweet so the way Twitter handled it well as they put a warning on it and said that it glorified violence now the phrase when the looting starts the shooting starts is sort of a it's a unfortunately playful phrase and if you use an unfortunately playful phrase for what might be a slaughter of civilians twitter is saying I think you're glorifying you're sort of acting like you're a little happy about the shooting that's going to start about the looting now hold that interpretation and now we're going to compare it to Facebook all right so summarizing Twitter says when the looting starts the shooting starts is a little bit to perrault

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starts is a little bit to perrault shooting so that got a flag Facebook according to Mark Zuckerberg they they wrestled with the same issue and here's where they came down about it they decided to to leave it intact and the reason they did was that in Zuckerberg opinion I assume other people's opinion as well at Facebook that it was giving useful information to the public and that useful information is that if the if the looting continues there were literally be people getting a shot now should the public know that the President of the United States is sending people that could shoot them based on you know whether they're looting or not do you think the public has a right to know that the government their own government has just announced publicly they're given seven people to shoot them yes yes yes yes the public

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shoot them yes yes yes yes the public has a right to know if the government is sending armed people to shoot them maybe I mean depending on the situation so you know we don't assume that the National Guard was going to go down there and mow people down and when the president clarified his clarification was that you know it could be the public taking matters into their own hands and gave some examples where it's already happening because there was a looter who got shot by a shop owner so use that example now I don't know if the president was only thinking about shop owners taking matters into their own hands I don't know if that's the only thing he was thank you but I also don't think it matters because his statement was factually correct the statement was that looting leads to shooting looting has already led to shooting it's a fact we don't have to say can it lead to shooting it's a fact it already happened there was a looter he got shot because he was looting will

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he got shot because he was looting will there be more people tonight who are shot if they're alluding almost certainly if there is mass looting tonight you should expect people to get shot I'm not saying I'm not glorifying it I'm just saying you should expect it so I would say if you were to compare Facebook's approach that the public has a right to know that their government is sending people maybe to shoot them if they're looting you know and depending on the situation right nobody nobody wants to shoot anybody versus Twitter saying a glorified violence now of course Twitter I think Twitter allowed you to see it but you had to work a little bit more something like that I don't know I don't know exactly how they how they flagged it I would say the Facebook had the the right answer on this one so I'd say Facebook I'd say Twitter had the suboptimal response compared to Facebook which got it right now here's the way I grade

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it right now here's the way I grade things like this what I don't do is say oh I'll give facebook an A because they got it right and I'll give you know Twitter less than a and effort something cuz they didn't get it right that's not how I'm grading this here's how I'm grading it exactly like the pandemic it's the same standard remember I told you early on that I'm not gonna blame any governor or any leader any mayor for making a mistake because nobody knew the right thing to do I was going to grade people on whether they corrected their mistake so and and that's the standard I think we should always use when people you can't really expect people to guess the right decision when nobody knows the right decisions so similarly as Facebook and Twitter are trying to work their way through this unfamiliar world of adding a little bit of context or truth to what's happening you know trying to see if they can make the world a little better and this in this one dimension

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better and this in this one dimension they don't know what's the right answer they don't know the right answer Facebook doesn't have the right answer for every one of these situations I think Zuckerberg got it right this time in this very specific situation he got one right in my opinion Twitter Twitter's response was less good than Facebook's but what just happened Twitter got to see how Facebook responded Facebook got to see how Twitter responded both Twitter and Facebook got to see how the public responded and how the government responded now we're all smarter that's good that means the system is working people are trying stuff and then they see what happens so Facebook tried something and then River tried something and they tried different things one of them worked better than the other one in my opinion does that mean that the next time they both get in a similar situation they're more likely to be similarly you know A+ far more

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to be similarly you know A+ far more likely far more likely that getting it wrong leads to getting to right next time so I'm not complaining about any of this at this stage I think you should expect both Facebook and Twitter and you could throw Google in there for good measure I think they're gonna be making a bunch of minor mistakes minor mistakes meaning that on a scale of 1 to 10 it doesn't really change life or doesn't make you less happy it just doesn't have a big impact on society in general these are very small small little things that we're blowing up because they represent bigger things right but the real world is not in any way bothered by what either of them did with one tweet even to the president's tweet well we're bothered by is that my signal a trend so people are trying to get it get ahead of the trend and move at the direction they wanted to move but I would say we're in a very positive place in the sense that we're trying things and we're learning

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we're trying things and we're learning and improving if you can try something to learn and improve your the best possible world and I think that's where Facebook and indeed the Silicon Valley has that as sort of the DNA you know the DNA of the tech industry is try it try it measure it test it you know adjust so that's what they're doing it's all good
let's see sharp it's it's a very strange time in terms of the news because I've talked this far without mentioning the pandemic except for how it locked people up for weeks the pandemic is still going on right did we just forget the pandemic somebody says famous Facebook has you fooled watch and see I'm gonna gonna block you from that because when you say has me fooled you

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because when you say has me fooled you are reading my mind remember you can tell me your opinion but what that the person I blocked just did is told me my opinion they told me what was happening inside my mind which was that I was fooled how do you know how do you know what's in my mind how do you know what I'm fooled by you don't again tell me your opinion don't tell me my opinion only I can tell you my opinion there's no exception to that somebody says scottson Karen mote that Karen thing is funny every time I don't know I suppose a little get old but it's still funny every time so anyway Trump is going hard at China that would be the biggest story in the world except for all these other stories and some of the things he's looking at are I didn't realize this though until recently there are 350 thousand Chinese

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recently there are 350 thousand Chinese students in the United States and I'm talking about students who live in China and are just studying here in other words the residents of China does that cool with you are you cool with 350,000 Chinese students when we know the government of China is using some portion of them obviously not all of them as spies I think we ought to we ought to shut that down right away so I see I don't see any I don't see any excuse for letting China who is essentially proven to be an enemy of the United States to be educating their elites because it's not the poor people who are coming here for an education it's the children of the elites who come here to get a name-brand education we should stop that right away there's no excuse for educating the elites of your enemy China's an enemy if I were in the

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enemy China's an enemy if I were in the government I would not use that word but since I'm not in the government I'm just a citizen observing China is killing 50,000 Americans with fentanyl they did the Wuhan flu you know that they they should have done a better job warning us about that you know they're stealing our stuff there they apparently they're not they're not even attempting to live up to the trade deal they just signed they're taking over Hong Kong I mean they're I got this far saying all the bad things that China's doing and I didn't even mention yet organ harvesting of political prisoners I mean you only need one of these to make that beer enemy and of course of the concentration camps of the we Gers I mean really we can't be friends with this country still like the people Chinese people great people but the government of China I

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heard that there's an entity in China called the National People's Congress is that true National People's Congress and they're little or literally MPC's National People's Congress I thought what are the odds that that's a coincidence anyway so apparently Trump is going to make quote a series of announcements on China in the coming days and among them might be restricting Chinese graduate students and here say here's a question for you this is a very provocative question and I shouldn't ask this question out loud but I'm gonna do it anyway alright so knowing you knowing either dad so much trouble this question is going to cause I'm gonna ask it anyway because I think you can handle it alright why is it that you have to be born in the United States to run for president why is that isn't that racist what why is it that you could be

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what why is it that you could be governor or you could be anything he could be a plumber lawyer doctor as long as your says well if you have a legal right to work here whatever that looks like you can have any job except president why is it why is it you can't be present that's the only thing that's clearly racist isn't it because the whole point of you can't be president is that we think you would have loyalty to your home country even if you'd live here all of your life take something like Arnold Schwarzenegger do you think there's any any chance that Arnold Schwarzenegger is more loyal to Austria where he was born versus the United States that made him Arnold Schwarzenegger I don't think there's a question Arnold Schwarzenegger clearly there's an American in every way that matters just this technical thing he was born in another country so he can't run for president now isn't that racist I mean

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president now isn't that racist I mean in in the case of Arnold maybe not but it also restricts everybody else who was born in another country was Elon omar was born in another country right ken de la Omar ever run for president in this country no right as she she was born in another country I think I'm right about that so why is that fair isn't that racist feels a little racist doesn't it all right well so this first part was just a setup I just priests waited you a little bit so I wanted you to think about that but that's not even the topic I haven't introduced the topic yet I just wanted to yet I just wanted you to wrestle what are you to wrestle with that thought a little bit now we'll talk about the topic the reason that anybody thinks it's okay that you have to be born in this country to run for president and I think there's fairly widespread agreement part of it is that it's just historically there and you know the things that are already there you don't

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things that are already there you don't question as much you're just used to it so some of it set but the other part of is that the presidency is unique there's nothing like the presidency would you agree that if I said hey if you could be a plum or governor why can't you be present and the answer is there's no job like president being a plumber is not similar to being president and even being a governor is not similar to being president because the governor doesn't have any international responsibilities it's the international stuff that you worry about when you've got a president who me maybe you think maybe possibly has a little bit of loyalty back to the country they were born in this racist is racist to make that assumption right but still it's it's the only time that we allow that little bit of racism to to eek into our you know national system because we think the stakes are so high

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because we think the stakes are so high the stakes of having a president who was not 100% loyal to this country the stakes are so high he just wouldn't take a point oh one chance of that being wrong right but if you get somebody who was born in this country and raised in this country one of the odds I mean really what are the odds someone born in this country has any other country as their primary loyalty pretty low so it's a it's a rule that applies in this special case but I'm wondering if there isn't a new special case are you ready here's the topic everything else was just to get you ready so so far I'm just absenting up the room here's the real point - you ready why do we let people who were born in other countries work as social media businesses in this country now the first thing you should say to yourself is oh damn that's racist

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yourself is oh damn that's racist that's super racist right it's super racist sounding well let's talk about it if in the end you decide that's just too racist I would say that's a reasonable opinion I wouldn't argue with that if you say now Scott you've gone too far that's just racist I would say that's a fairly that's a responsible opinion and I will accept that and so therefore we shouldn't do it but I ask you this question if the presidency requires you to be born in this country because the stakes are so high how do you feel about somebody who was born in China and is in charge of the social media algorithm is that what sizes the risk is that bigger than the risk of saying of say being a plumber who was born in China yeah yeah that's a bigger risk is it a bigger risk than being say a mayor or a governor well a

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being say a mayor or a governor well a mayor or a governor they don't have any international dealings it wouldn't matter if they did have a little bit of loyalty back to the place they were born because it wouldn't really express itself it just wouldn't be an issue but if you had a little bit of loyalty to Communist China or just say China or just any other country if you had a little bit of loyalty to them is it safe to put somebody who might might almost certainly doesn't I would say the vast majority of people who are born in other countries and are working in tech and tech businesses the vast majority of them are just doing their job well he has nothing to do with anything they just go to work do the job that's the end of the story and and those people of course should be able to do what they whatever they do but there are certain jobs within social media which could make a difference in terms of what the public sees and what they don't see if you're in charge of what the public sees

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you're in charge of what the public sees and doesn't see should we make the standard for that as high as the presidency because the presidency has its own standard you know there you have to be born in this country yes is there one extra exception if you're managing what the people in this country see and know and think you're actually managing the minds of the American public is that another exception is that an exception that's so glaring that you'd have to at least consider that that's some similarity to the risk involved of having a president who even has any chance just a even slightly slightly chance of having a little bit of loyalty to some other country even a little bit somebody says you've pissed me off Scott I'm going to breakfast instead of listening to this well I've done my job so here's the point it's a provocative thought I'm not going to

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provocative thought I'm not going to recommend that anything be changed or that the law be changed but I think you have to you have to ask yourself why there's a difference between the presidency which feels a little racist that you can't be born in another country I mean if you came here as a baby I'm literally a baby you don't even have a single memory of the other country and you can't run for president in this country raised as a complete American and you can't run for president well that's racist so if we allow that and by the way maybe we shouldn't I think that should be at least on the table we should at least look at see if there's any other situations that are similarly risky so maybe you get rid of both of them and that would be consistent or you say they're similar alright somebody says this is a dangerous line of thinking if

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this is a dangerous line of thinking if bias is allowed to determine the answer well I don't think bias is what would be part of this it would be a risk management decision and it would be it would be overtly racist exactly the way limiting who runs for president is overtly racist there's nobody disagrees with that right not allowing somebody to to have a specific job because of where they were born if they're legal citizens of the United States there's no way to say anything about that except that it's racist it has a reason the reason is safety of the country but that doesn't make it not racist
somebody says it's not racist well it's not racist in intention so I'd agree with you that it's not racist in intention and it's not racist if you want to say that countries are not racist not racist so for example you

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racist not racist so for example you could say well if you're born in Canada you also can't run for president and that's not really racism because it's Canada to which I would say now the way we use racism in the popular vernacular is anybody who's different in a cultural social way and Canada is so amend the Constitution if you want to change it yeah that would be the only way you could change that is to amend the Constitution that is correct private versus public roles oh well that's a good point so the social media companies are private businesses the government is a public business and that's that's a distinction which we should at least put into the mix but where I'm going with this is that the social media companies have not not by intentioned but they've evolved to the point where they're part of the government so although they are not written into the Constitution these social media companies are actually you

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social media companies are actually you know they have the levers of democracy at this point so given that they act like governments in terms of their effect on the on our thoughts and our minds I maybe this should be treated like it somebody says I'm sorry I don't care how it's racist well I'm using the word racist in the way the left uses it which is anybody who's from another country and they've got anything that's different about them it doesn't have to be race so I'm using racist without race being part of it racist just being a different country that you came from you can call it xenophobic or anything you want but you know what I'm talking about all right do we allow top military to be non-citizens or in top defense jobs where they've had access I don't know the answer that I think the answer is yes
yes you can be a general in the in the US military no matter where you were born

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military no matter where you were born is that correct I believe that's correct so you might ask the same question about that all right that's all I got for today the virtue of signal should be class four felony and I'll talk to you later