Episode 1005 Scott Adams: My Goodness, So Much News. Let’s Talk.

Date: 2020-05-30 | Duration: 56:25

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• Jake Tapper persists in pushing the Fine People HOAX

• CNN headquarters under riot attack…they didn’t initially report it

• Flynn call transcript released…NO EVIDENCE of a crime

• Mystery umbrella guy with a hammer

• Whiteboard1: Kaepernick’s Knee

• Whiteboard2: Murder Manslaughter Stupidity Grid

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well let's look at the beautiful view and get ready for no coffee with Scott Adams we've got loyal dog she seems like she's stuffed but I can promise you there there you go she's actually a real dog she can move sit down go back to sleep
all right well we got a lot to talk about has there ever been an Uzi or de Alexa turn on studio or not there that's better yes yes yes we've got all kinds of news let's jump right into it first of all Trump is decided he's Luke leaving the World Health Organization now maybe it's still negotiating because I'm sure if they gave him what he wanted you would get back in but I think it's a

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you would get back in but I think it's a strong move because Trump always does the thing that everybody says well you can't do that and then he does it and then people say okay that worked by closing travel from China people said you can't do that and then it worked out but a lot of things he does that people say you can't do that you can't negotiate a trade deal with China they'll they'll be mad and that he just does looks like it didn't work out so I think the real problem with China is that they're not buying the American goods they said they went because things are so tense so if China is not going to buy the goods that they promised to buy I think we have nothing left to do with them it's time it's time to organize the rest of the world against China which it looks like we're doing so there's some thought about turning the g7 into a g10 bringing in a few more countries to

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bringing in a few more countries to bolster the collective power versus China so that's all good I would say that's all positive for the United States so the president of course used some terms which he knows will get will get his critics buzzing one of them was when the looting starts the shooting starts now CNN and the other completely disreputable people are saying well it's clearly a racial message to which I say do you think Trump knew that come on do you think Trump knew that that has some racial overtones because looting is not a racial term and shooting is not a racial term and I'm watching the riots and to me it looks like there are ten white people to every one black person and are

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people to every one black person and are you watching the same riots I am all the riots I'm watching they're way more white people in the in the protest slash situation so when the president says when the looting starts the shooting starts you have to really kind of work in it to make that a racial thing and then he also calls them thugs which again there were about ten white people for every for every black person in attendance and thugs is just a word and and so far cNN has turned this into wall-to-wall coverage about the Trump's racism so much so that they actually ran the find people hoax again so Jake Tapper actually ran you know a a clip a piece on his show in which you was showing all the assumed examples of the president's racism and of course none of them are real there it's just a laundry list of things that didn't happen or

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list of things that didn't happen or misinterpreted but the fine people hoax was on the still on the list still on the list so I finally had to give up with Jake so I I blocked him I'm not just never gonna deal with him again piece of really because I was giving him the benefit of a doubt because I had talked to him personally and I'd explained to him what the fine people hoax was about and indeed he's even cited himself once on his show he said that the president at the same time said that he completely disavow the writ the racist which is the part that usually gets cut out but I don't think there's any excuse this point you know there was a time when you could say well maybe they really think that's what happened but once you show them the transcript it's pretty obvious it didn't happen but still reporting it today is just too far I mean that's just a race-baiting and I

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I mean that's just a race-baiting and I don't have any patience for it I don't think you can be a good person and do what they're doing I just don't think you can so I'm sorry Jake I wanted to think you were a good person but you've proved otherwise sadly so I'm cutting him out of my life forever not that we had much connection we did the the cartoon thing for charity a few times but that was it and I'm really disappointed I'm disappointed that that it even exists you know there were even in this place but if you're watching the news and probably maybe you didn't see it on CNN for a while until it was over the CNN was not reporting the news the CFM's headquarters in Atlanta was surrounded by protesters and they were destroying the big CNN logo statue or whatever you want to call it that was outside they're just you're ripping it on and doing graffiti on it breaking windows I think at least one window and

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windows I think at least one window and and you might say to yourself why would they attack CNN right why would you attacks the event because isn't CNN supporting you in every way well here's my speculation and it goes like this cNN has been whipping up racial animosity for years what if they succeeded and they got their racial animosity if they succeeded in making it racial I'm not sure people see political party anymore because once you make your racial it's just racial the politics sort of is the second most important part but what's the most important part is overwhelming everything else congratulations CNN you took something that didn't need to be racial because

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that didn't need to be racial because we're mostly on the same side this with the shooting with the shooting especially this latest shooting of George Lloyd the president is aggressively and unambiguously on the side of the protesters he was saying there was a you know bad deal bad cop you know he says respect the memory of George Lloyd he couldn't be more on their side that maybe they noticed because you know it's hard to not notice the president right but don't you think that there's just a general hatred of white people who were elites in power I think CNN created a situation where they've weaponized the public against themselves because in the CNN world there's this difference between Fox News and CNN but I think we're learning that that's only in the heads of people watch a lot of news apparently if you don't

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a lot of news apparently if you don't watch a lot of news it's just white people in power and that's what it looked like so again I think there were 10 to 1 white people to black people protesting as CNN - based on just looking at the crowd but I think they all got whipped up into this thought that it's the powerful white people who have you know the control of things who are the bad guys so I think they created they created themselves as bad guys because how else can you explain that they would go after CNN now somebody had a good counter theory which is you go where the cameras are but any place is populated that you have a big crowd the cameras are going to get there so the CMM thing kind of came from left field but you can kind of almost understand it because they've been actively agitating for a race war without realizing that they might be the victims of it

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they might be the victims of it that the people might turn on them and it looks like at least a little bit that happened and so the president said he's going to treat Hong Kong as part of China and no longer treat it like it's special which i think is it's just practical it's just unfortunately there's just nothing anybody can do there's nothing the United States could do there's nothing on kakadu that they're geographically doomed to be controlled by China and that's what's happening about a normal day this would have been the biggest story but it just gets lost in the shovel that the actual flynn phone call transcripts where he was talking to kiss Li act the Russian and the very thing that got him arrested and and convicted turns out there's no evidence in it there's no evidence the thing that got him convicted when you actually see it there's no evidence no

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actually see it there's no evidence no evidence of a lie no evidence of anything it was just a verb the most normal phone call in the world and which not much happened that's it now that we see the actual words you can see that the whole thing was a little bit sketchy we get it get sketchier every day so there's there's at least some thought that there's another shoe to drop I don't want to report that yet because I want to hear from other sources but there are some other really interesting stuff on this story that might be coming out really soon it might involve some other personalities that are not very popular among Trump people but we'll wait for that Minnesota governor said today that sunlight is a disinfectant which is weird to see a governor suggest that you drink bleach to stop looting oh that's not how you interpret that I've

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that's not how you interpret that I've been trained by CNN to interpret the news this way if if a politician says sunlight is a disinfectant I should translate that into my my mind as the governor is recommending the you drink bleach because it would stop looting did I do it wrong I'm pretty sure that's right I've been watching see them do this for a long time I think I got a right all right did you see the video of the the guy with the umbrella this is the best story on the Internet if you haven't seen this yet you got a good story to look forward to alright so there's a video of an unidentified tall white guy you can tell he's white because he turns and looks at you even though he has it he has like a professional gas mask on but you can see you know his eyes so you can tell he's a white guy he's a big white guy tall guy

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white guy he's a big white guy tall guy and he's got an umbrella and a hammer now here's what's interesting about the guy with the umbrella and the hammer and the full gas mask and the all-black so he's completely unidentified he walks up with his hammer to the AutoZone store the one you saw burning in Minnesota and he's the guy who initially knocked down all the windows so he walks up to it nonchalantly like he's not even one of the protesters like he's not even angry about anything like he has it's not an act of passion it's not an act where he got caught up with a crowd he's all by himself comes out of the shadows breaks these windows like almost like a professional like he was just doing a job bang bang bang bang bang bang as soon as he breaks a few windows which history will record was the beginning of the looting because until those windows

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the looting because until those windows were broken I don't believe there was any looting going on but once they were broken Wow you know the window is gone and so the man with the umbrella and the hammer and the gas mask starts walking away some of the people who were there including one I'm guessing maybe late teenagers early 20s something african-american man tries to stop him and and also accuses him of being a cop so in other words the locals the people who were actually protesting the actual protesters said wait a minute you're not one of us now people are saying he's a cop and I don't think there's evidence of that but there is certainly evidence that he wanted to start a riot or start some looting so why would he have an umbrella anybody

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why would he have an umbrella anybody anybody why did he have an umbrella why did he have an umbrella if you get why he had an umbrella you're gonna be a lot closer to the answer to the question why do you have an umbrella I'm waiting for somebody in the comments if you don't know this you can have a surprise coming why the umbrella I'm looking looking if you're playing along at home we're not seeing anybody answering the question why the umbrella well I guess you don't know so I'm going to tell you the answer it's because of drones and because of security cameras the umbrella takes care of any drones that could take a picture of his face as well as any security cameras that might have had a down shot now he's the only one I saw who had a full mask that covered every part of them including his hair so he was

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them including his hair so he was completely unidentifiable it wasn't I don't believe there was any exposed skin except a little bit of his eyeballs you can say so the umbrella tells me that this was somebody who was prepared and he was not prepared like a protester he was prepared like a person with a specific mission so now I don't think it was to disguise the hammer because the hammer was this big you know good sticking it under his coat pretty easily yes so he didn't want to be caught by cameras and he came prepared for that nobody else had an umbrella there's no protester who had an umbrella he came to cause some trouble he seemed a little bit too prepared meaning he looked like a professional to me now what kind of professional intelligence agents from another country how hard would it be for the Russians to

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how hard would it be for the Russians to to send somebody there now I think that he spoke to the the african-american man who was chasing him down to figure out what was going on I think he talked to him so at least there's one person who would know if he had an accent but I don't think he did because I think we can hear a little bit on the video you know so I sounded American and and he did you know say he was gonna take it go with the guy cuz he was much bigger than the guy who was chasing em and then he just walked away yeah he was a professional of some sort so when you say that there was rioting going on you can't leave him out of the story you can't leave him out of the story he he caused it who was he we want to know all right that was interesting
there's something good happening and something bad happening at the same time

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something bad happening at the same time I'm going to get into that a little bit but first I want to ask you about how confident you are that what you saw on the video of the cop killing George Floyd how confident are you that what you saw in that video I mean you saw it with your own eyes lots of people saw it there were eyewitnesses how confident are you that what you saw gives you an accurate impression of what happened because if you say to yourself I know what happened because I saw it on video and I saw it with my own eyes you have learned nothing you've learned nothing where have you been for the last four years if there's anything that is guaranteed to be true it's a video lies now did the video lie so much that there was no crime committed I doubt it because it looked like a crime to me so I'm gonna be very careful when I talk about this next topic because it'd be

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about this next topic because it'd be really easy for somebody to take me out of context it looked to me like murder it look to you like murder we all think it look like murder I think then we learned from the autopsy that he didn't die from the knee on his neck at least that wasn't the single cause he didn't have a scientific CA ssin what now the speculation subject to more more study is that what killed him was probably some combination of effects some probably something about the way he was restrained something about the way they were on top of him something about the intoxicants perhaps we don't know what if were what he had in them something about underlying conditions he had or heart condition and hypertension and it was a tense situation maybe all those things maybe it was a combination of all of those things but apparently he was

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of those things but apparently he was not it's fixed asphyxiated or strangled by the knee they say they can tell can they tell they seem pretty confident about it but they said they can tell now does the video lie well the video I saw when I made my decision that he was clearly and obviously a murderer murdering a guy right in front of us the video I saw showed only one person on the suspect that's the one you saw to just one person yeah it is he had his knee on the guy's neck but then we saw it later we saw a reverse for you and it shows that there were three cops on him one was on the neck one was I think more in the back and one was sort of controlling the legs so that's what we saw now that's very different than one guy on him right so if if you said to yourself okay I saw this video I'd know exactly what

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this video I'd know exactly what happened was that cop he killed the guy what you didn't see is a right beside behind the bumper were two other cops on him what's up with that now it gets a little more complicated because I didn't see that in the first video do you know what else you didn't see you didn't see any video of just before they took him down you saw the video when he first got out of the car and you saw the video when it was like a few minutes before the end of the man's life what you didn't see is why three cops were on top of him now I'm not going to say that excuses anybody so here's I'm gonna block anybody who who imagines that I'm saying the cops are innocent okay and I know that's gonna happen somebody in the comments is gonna say oh you're saying the right except not saying that I'm just talking about the facts we know and the facts we don't know so I will block you the moment you imagine I'm saying that okay so let's look at what we've

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that okay so let's look at what we've got here we're going to the whiteboard here's the here's I don't know if it's the simulation winking at us but this might be more good news than bad what I'm going to show you next remember wouldn't Kaepernick did his protest and he famously took a knee and that of course created great division in the country people love the rights and all your disrespecting our country people on the Left said well there's a good reason it's a perfectly legitimate protest and so there was great division in the country and so that lasted a while never really healed was just sort of we stopped talking about it for a while now we have this situation where the policeman kills a black man by putting a knee on his neck now when I tweeted about this some people thought I was joking this isn't funny why would this be funny it's murder or something like it I mean somebody got killed nothing funny about

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somebody got killed nothing funny about that it is however potentially powerful and powerful in this specific way that nobody in the world can miss the the show because the weirdness that's baked into it that that the protest would be taking a knee and then sort of what I would call the final straw the moment when every single white person said oh okay that's what you're talking about now some of us were already there many of us were already there that the that the police can sometimes be abusive we all know that that's true in you know we hope it's not the majority but we know it's true at this point I think the entire country got red billed or white pills or whatever pill that is because what what exactly is going through your head so here's the question what is

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head so here's the question what is going through your head when you go to protest racial discrimination especially with the police you show up in the city and there are more white people there to protest with you than there are black people now are you seeing the same thing I'm saying there are more white people protesting this latest event then there are black people I think by a lot how do you feel if your black lives matter and you show up and you think it's it's you against I don't know white people who do you think is on the other side who's on the other side because you look around and the people were supporting you are all white people I think this is the point when there's sort of a recognition that this was more a problem about the press how they whip us into hysteria how they frame things and the police need some help now they may need some help no matter who they're stopping this doesn't

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matter who they're stopping this doesn't mean they need some help racially specifically but it does mean that maybe they need a little extra work on making sure that this doesn't happen no matter who gets stopped but I think there's something magical about the fact that there's this weird coincidence built into the story I mean it's a really weird coincidence that Annie which is so powerful in our in our minds you know the way we think of knees it has to do with submission it has to deal with you know somebody having power over another one it's just that every bad image is sort of baked into knees so because this is so powerful and because I think the entire country is on the same side did you see that there were protesters who went to the White House the president was completely on their side from the from the jump there was no hesitation he was always on the side of the protesters and in fact you know the

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the protesters and in fact you know the Department of Justice is acting on it so who's on the other side who's on the other side there's nobody on the other side and I think that maybe Kaepernick is the big winner in a weird way the big winner because he looks right alright now here's the part where I'll get in trouble but I can't get cancelled so you're gonna do it anyway as we're trying to figure out what really happened there I like to build a grid so I can see I can work through my own thinking about it so this has more to do with a way of thinking of things so if the only thing you got out of it is oh that's a good way to think of a complicated thing I might use that myself and what I do is I just put the three possible explanations and then I figure out what we know which of course is changing by the minute so that this of course would have to be

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so that this of course would have to be you know updated every five minutes because we're still in the fog of war but in terms of how you would look at it this is a good start so was it something like murder I guess third-degree murder is exactly what he's been charged with in addition to manslaughter and third-degree murder is defined as this in Minnesota so it's different by state causing death of a person and here's the the money part quote by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind without regard for life and without intent to kill so it could still be murder even if he didn't mean it but it would but it would be worse than manslaughter if I understand this correctly I could have some of the legalities wrong but I think manslaughter would be your just being just an accident that you should have known better whereas the third degree murder is a little worse than that

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murder is a little worse than that meaning that not only should it not have happened not only you should even known better but there was something about your attitude or your intentions that seemed like it's like you didn't even try you know with manslaughter it's a little bit more like an accident that you should have known better whereas this one is it's not an accident necessarily it's just you didn't care or you know you just didn't even do the minimum you know you need it to keep somebody from dying alright so here's all we know did the police follow procedures you would say no right wouldn't you say no I think you might be surprised if the if it goes to trial I think you might be surprised that it's closer to yes and the only reason I can say that is that the autopsy at least preliminarily says he was not killed by the knee on the neck so if the knee on the neck didn't kill him and there were

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the neck didn't kill him and there were four officers there none of them seemed to be protesting what anybody else was doing that suggests that they probably all thought they were doing something close to the procedure now can you put an e on somebody's neck and have two other officers hold them down if they were resisting arrest which by the way is not in evidence so so far there's no evidence that George Floyd was resisting arrest that's not in evidence but
but later if it became an evidence suppose the missing video the few minute the minute just before the police took him down suppose we suppose somebody finds that and suppose it looked like there was some resisting if there was resisting just moments before they the three of them were trying to hold them down then it's gonna look a lot closer to they followed procedure because remember then

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followed procedure because remember then the knee on the neck it didn't kill him it whatever it was was probably a combination of things which the police would not necessarily know what's happening now the next thing you say to yourself is but Scott he was saying you're killing me he said it directly repeatedly the witnesses heard it how in the world did the police not give him help when he's saying I can't breathe I'm dying I don't know but I would ask you this how often do the police hear that kind of complaint my guess is that it's common and main and maybe they're just learned not to take it seriously unless they see a little bit more evidence that it's real so suppose they just didn't take you seriously they didn't kill him by putting their pressure on the neck this is all just suppose yeah I'm not saying it's true everything could change its go

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it's true everything could change its go look like maybe they were just dumb they thought they were following the procedures and they should have been a little bit more aware of the situation so it's gonna look like stupidity what about the autopsy the autopsy seems to have ruled out intentional murder because if had been intentional murder we would have a specific cause oh you did this but not necessarily that third degree murder which is more closer to manslaughter so is manslaughter ruled out now no because just because they didn't kill him on the neck part the totality of what they were doing apparently did kill him
him unless it was the biggest coincidence in the world and he died you know nobody nobody thinks he died just coincidentally at that very moment from natural causes so manslaughter still in and and stupidity is still in what about the fact that they did everything they did in front of witnesses who had phones if you are planning if your mind was on

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you are planning if your mind was on murder would you do it in front of witnesses casually all four of you casually well they have their phones out no no not in any world would they be thinking murder so I think you could eliminate in fact the charges the charges do not have in them any and the element of intention so intention is not even part of the charges and that there's this this part that we just learned that there were three cops on top of them why do you ever have three cops on top of you if you are cooperating with the police is it because the police like to get on the ground with their clean uniforms probably not that there's nobody wants to be wrestling with a perpetrators of feet on the ground unless they got pretty good reason right so the evidence that we

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reason right so the evidence that we have that there were three cops sitting on top of them neck back and somebody trying to control his feet strongly suggests that he was not cooperating a moment before then now here's the interesting part to me and by the way I'll say this every minute or so it looks like a crime was committed to me I'm just going through what we know and what we don't know so don't don't confuse what we know and what we don't know with my opinion I'll tell you my opinion it looks like he was killed
you don't need to explain to me that the totality of what the police did almost certainly contributed to the man's death I would say something close to a hundred percent certainty cuz what are the odds he would die by accident just then and here's my conspiracy theory that I would like to add to it do you believe that

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like to add to it do you believe that the video the the one video that's missing is the important one well important to answer the mystery why is it that we have good video of before that and we have good video after his on the ground but the part that caused three police officers to be on top of him we do not have that video does that seem like an accident let me let me add this to the conspiracy theory just as it is very unlikely that he would have died by natural causes at just that moment when the police are on the sitting on top of him nobody believes that because it's just too unlikely but do you believe that with all the cameras around the only part that we need to know do you believe that that's missing by accident I'm going to go with this

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accident I'm going to go with this hypothesis somebody has that video and they're not showing it to you intentionally because it doesn't fit what they want to happen I think that video exists and I think somebody doesn't want you to see it that's what I think now that said I've never seen the country more unified racially in the sense that everything that Colin Kaepernick was saying now we feel it in a more visceral way you kind of knew that there was you know a problem but you also thought well it must be happening to white people too it's a police problem but now they you see it the the visual of watching a man's life being snuffed out by a police officer in what seemed to be complete casual business as usual is so horrifying just

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business as usual is so horrifying just so completely horrifying that I think I think a unified us in a weird way now I see some people worried that this is the end of civilization and you know the riots will go out of control and things are fragile etc and I think nothing like that's happening nothing like that's happening if you see a crowd in which it's only black people are only white people something's happened that's that's dangerous you don't want to see a riot with just one ethnicity if you see that you know you better get a gun and hide in your house but if you see a multi-ethnic group protesting for you know more equitable fair safer police enforcement and it's completely Multi red multi-ethnic your closer to a really good thing than a really bad thing just doesn't feel like it because

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thing just doesn't feel like it because there are things on fire now when you turn on the news they're going to show that one car that's on fire over and over again because it's the only fire gigantic city one car on fire what is the news going to be let's see how many times we can film this one car on fire from different angles I hope it keeps burning because it's the only thing interesting otherwise it's just people standing around give me the car on fire so the first thing you need to know is that we're being fed a diet of way more danger than is actually there because those are the interesting things so we're so of course we see them the other thing you need to know is that I would say at least forty to sixty percent of everything you see is probably because of the lockdown and because the weather turned good people were anxious and angry and for us and then warm weather came and they

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and then warm weather came and they finally said what can I do today will I go to a restaurant no will I go to the club no will I go to a bar no can I hang out and have a house party no what if I have a riot can stop a riot you could call it a protest same thing it's hard to stop if you get enough people nobody's going to stop you so I think that the way this has to be looked at is it's it's kind of emotionally there are two things that are kind of collided emotionally the video of you know George Floyd being killed is of course the big topic but the way we feel about everything whether it was this story or some other trigger the way we feel about everything is just a little extra a little extra weight on it because because we've been locked up and we just need to get out so I would not

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we just need to get out so I would not expect this to be a permanent situation because number one everybody agrees everybody agrees who exactly are they protesting are they protesting the the governor of Minnesota no he wants those guys in jail are they are they protesting the legal system no they've already arrested that guy are they protesting the court decision no hasn't happened are they protesting the president ow he agrees with them so hard that I think it confuses them who are they protesting now of course they're protesting you know I guess institutional racism they're protesting maybe some tendencies some human biases but what you're going to do about that what are you gonna do about it I mean I do think there are lots of ways you could improve police work you should certainly have them they should all have body cams at the very least that's the least they should should have as body cams maybe they need to revise some rules because it's not the first time a

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rules because it's not the first time a black man has died is reaming for medical care if this had been the first and only time a black man had died while begging for medical care then you say oh it's just a one-off mistake it's terrible it's a tragedy but we don't need to fix anything because it just happened that one time but it's not one time it's not one time that how many how many cases have you heard of three or four now where it sounds a lot the same so maybe there is some other process let me give you my recommendation that I gave to black lives matter a few years ago when something like this was coming up here's my recommendation for a change in the police procedure and it goes like this if your if your suspect claims a medical problem and as long as you have control of him so it's not a dangerous situation you will immediately call your telehealth doctor and say hey telehealth

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telehealth doctor and say hey telehealth doctor I've got a suspect he's in handcuffs he's complaining of breathing problems or whatever can you talk to me and him at the same time to see if this is real and the doctor gets out and says you know can you tell me what's going on and then the doctor recommends do you take him to the hospital right away do you treat him in some specific way or does the doctor say it looks like this can wait but if you put it off on the doctor it's a little bit harder to protest if things go wrong because we accept the doctors don't get it right every time that's sort of built into our understanding of healthcare is that doctors don't get it right every time so now that you can call a doctor on a video by the by the device in your pocket and you can you you can thank the people who are watching this parrot this periscope for the fact that at least we were part of the push to make it legal

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were part of the push to make it legal for telehealth you know the online doctors to practice across state borders which makes it viable for the first time so I say just go with the obvious throwing the doctor you should have one who's always available just for this somebody who's you know seen let's say something who's seen police work enough that they they also have an understanding that the perpetrators sometimes tell stories that would be good background for the doctor that they use so now would that work maybe not maybe that wouldn't work by itself to make everything better but there are other little tweaks you can make for example you could make you could increase the penalty for falsifying a police report I think that was one of the black lives matter suggestion as well to which I say I wouldn't object to that would you would you object to increasing the penalty for falsifying a police report by the police if they did

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police report by the police if they did something bad and they're just covering it up and they're with her the police report I don't think I would disagree with that so I think you would find that there are a lot of things that would work for colin kaepernick a lot of things that would work for black lives matter there's somebody like President Trump or any like-minded you know governor's or mayor's wherever these decisions need to be made could simply say let's try it here's one not all of the police have body cams and the reason is primarily primarily budget so just suppose I'll just put this out there suppose the President of the United States said that there's this is no longer just a state problem because we have a racism concern and that's federal so the president could easily say because we have a history of this that states can't get away with discriminating and if the reason they're getting away with it is that they have a

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getting away with it is that they have a budget problem I'm going to solve that but I'm gonna make the budget available that they can all buy body cams if the President of the United States especially this president if Trump said here's a billion dollars I'm going to put this bill through Congress it's a billion dollars and it's it's nothing except buying body cams because we want to we want to reduce this problem in every way we can that's just one of the things we could do maybe he could do an executive order it would be like a suggestion to the states to make falsifying a police report more of the penalty he could suggest that they still have to do it at a state level so anyway the point is there are very practical things which smart people have worked out that are worth trying if you don't if you don't try then it cannot be said that you're valuing black lives or any other lives if you don't try of course you should try what are we doing so

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you should try what are we doing so you've got you've got protesters in the streets of you know a bunch of major cities it's the biggest story going there destroying property you know it's just a horrible situation but what's what's anybody doing what are the suggestions I think the president could just say look I haven't heard any good suggestions but I'm going to do these things I'm going to fund the body cams I'm gonna you know make sure that they'll you know recommend that they toughen the laws on something and or and I I could recommend that they have a doctor opinion if somebody says that they can't breathe so that that's three very specific things that you can just put out there and say let's try this let's just try it all right so that's the that's where I'm at with all this stuff again I want to assure everybody who's watching this I've never seen the

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who's watching this I've never seen the public of the United States this unified and the only reason that we're not talking about that is because the news is telling you it's not the news is still telling you were not unified we could not be more unified on this question we couldn't be because you know what I don't even think Colin Kaepernick wants to disrespect the country I think he wants the country just to do better now I realize that's a generous interpretation but I think it's a good time to be generous it's a good time to be generous so I so I might my take on Capra knack from the beginning is that he was very effective and so I I praised him for his effectiveness even if you didn't like the fact he didn't have any specific suggestions to fix anything and I don't think you did so I still respect him for the message and for the effectiveness of it and because it's something that a

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it and because it's something that a great a great deal many of my fellow Americans are concerned about and that's good enough for me if there are a lot of Americans who are deeply deeply deeply concerned about this issue I'm not going to talk them out of it I'm not gonna tell them you know you should look at it differently you shouldn't think of it that way it's not that big of a problem I got to do that the fact is that there's a gigantic percentage I don't know what the percentage but it's a big percentage of the population who's got real pain real concerned you know real a real issue this is as real as it gets if the police or if you think the police are killing you because of the way you look that's that's a 10 out of 10 you know how do you live in that country so I can assure you I get that and I understand that that that's the reality now you can try to argue it away and say well you know white people get killed too and it's not really racial and stuff like that but the the lived truth is

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like that but the the lived truth is that they've they've got this x4a risk and I think you have to deal with it as a lived truth which is good I love that phrase by the way because it gets to the fact that reality is subjective and nothing could be more subjective than this situation the way everybody feels about it is really a reflection of their own life and things that have happened to them and who they are and all that alright
did we talk with stupid protests yet well this is the reason that I think the protests have as much to do with the lockdown plus the good weather because as I said they don't who to protest because nobody's on the other side and by the way am I the only person saying this is there anybody else in the media the punditry on social media is there anybody else who's pointing out what I am which is that this is being looked at backwards

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that this is being looked at backwards this is the most unifying event in the history of the United States since Pearl Harbor maybe 9/11 I don't think racially we've ever been more on the same side and we should be celebrating that we are so on the same side turn on turn on CNN it looks like it's basically the same story on cm on Fox News how often does AB now the difference of course is as CNN is blaming the president for being a racist and therefore it's always false they've turned it into this ridiculous political thing when in fact the biggest story in the world is unfolding right in front of us and it's invisible it's literally invisible the most unifying situation we've ever had socially and it's invisible why because the media has the public

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why because the media has the public hypnotized by their framing of things and they have framed this as a problem with racial inequality it's exactly the opposite now independent of what those individual cops were thinking in their head we don't know that but we're not talking about individuals I'm talking about tens of thousands of people in the street just look at the video all racial groups all genders gay straight it's the most unifying thing we've ever experienced thank you for reminding me that Van Jones the way that he's characterized this as you said if you're looking for a racism in you know Trump's I'll paraphrase so you said it better but basically saying you know it's not it's not the racists who are like the real legitimate racists that are all the problem but rather it's the people who think there are good people and vote for vote for Democrats

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people and vote for vote for Democrats but then when you you would you approach them in the park with your dog suddenly they turned into raging racists and Van Jose quite insightful II is saying maybe the problem isn't this group maybe the problem is people maybe the problem is people and if we stop you know slicing it into with this kind of people of this kind of people and just say maybe we're just a biased discriminating prejudiced people now my take on this is that that's how the brain works your brain is a pattern your pattern recognition machine it operates on patterns I've seen this before this worked before this didn't work before I'll do what worked before it's all patterns the trouble is we're really bad at it so we have a pattern recognition machine in our head to makes all our decisions and it's not good at recognizing patterns that couldn't be worse but it is the situation we're in

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worse but it is the situation we're in and prejudice and bias is all based on the fact that you've got a pattern recognition machine and you've got a bad pattern in there now if you have a good pattern in there you're actually able to predict the future oh every time I see this situation this happens so that's what a good pattern can do for you a bad pattern says oh every time I see an elbonian wearing a hat he's gonna punch me in the face because the last three elbonian 'he's wearing a hat punched me in the face or worse worse I've never been punched in the face by an elbow nyan but I was raised to think that they punch you in the face now that would be a bad pattern pursuing that elbonian do not punch people in the face more than the average that would be a pattern that's just a faulty pattern so what do you do when people are naturally pattern recognition machines and they're not good at it I think that's what you have to deal with you should deal with the fact

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you should deal with the fact that we're all biased by design we don't you can't be unbiased you have anybody who tells you that they don't have bias they're just lying there just liars now I think you love somebody at the same time you have bias I think you can you can rise above your bias I think you can say to yourself okay I'm I don't have a good feeling about this for whatever biased reason but I'm gonna I'm gonna give everybody a fair chance I'm gonna look at the resume I'm not gonna look at the skin color I'm gonna look at what you can do how you did in the interview I'm not gonna look at your gender etc so I think we should maybe just accept that being biased into every possible way whether it's ethically or politically anything that's just who we are and I don't think we should pretend see the worst thing we do is pretend there are people who are not that person if that just doesn't exist there are people who

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just doesn't exist there are people who can overcome their bias but there are no people who don't have bias that's just not possible somebody says it works both ways Scott of course it does what I'm talking about is people so of course it would work in every direction
totally agree but that's not the name of the game yeah obviously the the name of the game is politics and power so people will make claims that are not true but the trouble is the public believes them it's one thing oh I'm glad I lifted your spirits Kathy yeah I've said before that we can't tell the difference between being on the edge of doom and being on the edge of greatness it looks the same that being right on the edge of the worst day you're ever gonna have and being right on the edge of the best day

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being right on the edge of the best day you'll ever have can look identical so when we're focusing on these riots etc we're just being blinded to the fact that there's nobody on the other side I don't know how many times I could say that that'd still be the only person who says it there's no one on the other side there's no one on the other side when do we realize that there's no one on the other side it'll be okay if there was someone on the other side maybe it wouldn't be okay but there's no one on the other side or all of this together completely on the same page now we got some facts that we'll find out and maybe later that won't split us up but at the moment we're pretty good all right that's all I got for now I will leave you that positive thought and I will talk to you in the morning they'll probably be 10 new headline stories by then because it's that kind of a month I'll see you then