Episode 1002 Scott Adams: Today You Learn That All the News is Pretend News

Date: 2020-05-28 | Duration: 1:00:39

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• Are Dems panicking the economy might recover too soon?

• A political wedge versus trying to solve a problem

• President Trump issuing social media EO

• Jack Dorsey and Twitter fact-checking

• Are media covering for Antifa, framing BLM?

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hey everybody come on in gather round it's gonna be a good one oh yeah we got terrible things and funny things and funny terrible things we got fake news real news but mostly fate news and it's the interesting kind the good kind the kind that makes you smarter yeah every one of you will be smarter by the time you're done Cristina good morning but before we get going I think you know what we need to do and it's called the simultaneous lip and all you need is a cover of Margar glass of tanker chalice or stai you in the canteen charger flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the dopamine hit of the day the the thing that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous hip and even the pandemic will be improved with this sip watch this can you feel the

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this sip watch this can you feel the curve flattening flattening flattening sep up yep I could feel the coronavirus death curve just bending a little bit there with one set so here is a little tip for you this is a retail store tip you can take this one to the bank if you're going to start our retail store don't name it target well if you're watching the news today you're laughing but if you don't know what the news is today there's a Target store they got a ravaged in I guess Minnesota because they're having riots and looting over the tragic death of the man who was killed by the police there when they put their knee on his neck and the funniest comment that I saw

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neck and the funniest comment that I saw today I just tweeted it's from a user Frankie Friday 98 and he suggests a new rule and if you want to learn a rule of humor this is a perfect example so this is a perfect tweet from Frankie Friday 98 and he says that the the rule should be I'm paraphrasing because I'm not looking at it he says the new rule should be that if police kill anybody in your town the local target has to give away all of its products because because it's gonna happen anyway and you might as well do it without getting you without getting your windows broke this is the reason the reason this makes me laugh is because it's perfect joke form because it makes sense at the same time it doesn't make any sense so if you could if you can put those two together you've got a joke that's what causes the

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you've got a joke that's what causes the laugh reflex because you say to yourself oh wait a minute if she could have steal all the stuff in the target anyway you might as well just make that the rule if the police kill somebody you just have to open target and say all right do what you wanted to I don't know how that's so funny but it is so I tweeted a great article and thread from Andres back house I told you you should be following him so look at my Twitter feed this morning it's toward the top and he he tells you about the common errors that people are making looking at the corona virus studies and data from different places and it's a real good overview if you think you understand what's going on with the data read all the mistakes that you can easily make and you might find that we don't know anything about anything you know I think we're getting

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anything you know I think we're getting close to the point where we can't compare anything that anything and we just don't know anything because none of our comparisons are valid there's always an Apple to an orange going on anyway so that's worth looking at and one of the funniest stories is that Democrats are getting panicked that the economy might come back too quickly and might come back too quickly and before the election now when I say come back I don't mean all the way back that would be much too soon to be all the way back but what people are expecting is a sharp sort of the beginning of a V and the rest of the the v-shape would take you know it might take a year to get the the V finish could be two years but the first part of the V might happen quickly meaning that just people go back to work for those businesses that didn't get closed down permanently and things get back pretty quickly so that the panic is

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back pretty quickly so that the panic is that Trump is going to be going into election day with an economy that's the other GDP is basically doubled because it's coming off a low base now what's funny about this is that for the past four years what have opem of supporters been saying about the economy Obama supporters have been making the claim that Obama did even better than Trump because if you look at some of the numbers like percentages and growth and stuff it was better under Obama but what do they leave out they always leave out the same thing that Obama came into office when the economy was at the the bottom and when your economy is at the very bottom the first part of the recovery is the easy part it's people were already trained to work they just go back to work that part's easy so Obama presided over what I call the easy part of the recovery meaning that

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easy part of the recovery meaning that your your percentage gain from the bottom is always going to look good and so illegitimately sort of going back to andreas point about how we're not good about analyzing data so people have legitimately said but hey you say Trump's doing good for the economy look at Obama's numbers they're better but of course that's an Apple to an orange because how quickly you recover from a bottom should be impressive how much you can add to the top is a lot harder and Trump did that so Trump was adding to a fairly strong economy that's the hard part that's the hardest part to get right so and I'm not even sure if you reverse the two presidents you had had them you know serve each other's terms I don't know if that would have worked it felt like they were both this or it is suited for their their time but anyway that's another story the point is that we we may have an

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the point is that we we may have an impressive-looking semi recovery by November and that looks like bad news for Democrats and the fact that that would look like bad news is just well it's a sad Jaykar all right are you ready to have your brain spinning in your skull I'm going to give you a simple suggestion that if I do it right we'll make you say something like why didn't anybody suggest that before so that's my challenge my challenge is that as soon as you hear this suggestion you're gonna say oh my goodness why didn't anybody say this before now this is not my original suggestion this is just something I saw on Twitter from a Twitter user who made this suggestion and when I read it I had the feeling that you're gonna have in a minute which is why is that so smart and yet nobody

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is why is that so smart and yet nobody has said this yet and it goes like this we're talking about mail-in ballots and we're talking about the dangers of voting because of coronavirus here's the suggestion you ready have Election Day be election week you just spread it out just election week because just about everybody can get to the
the from the the election place within a week now maybe you would spread it out by you know the last the let the letter in your last name or something so I'm gonna watch your comments but right I'm watching the comments oh my goodness why didn't anyone say this before somebody says no but would that a reason more time to cheat more time to cheat what's that mean great idea I said this a month ago somebody says not new been saying that for years somebody says I said that years ago well about a lot of individuals have said it

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about a lot of individuals have said it but why is it not in the national conversation have you seen it on the news now if you've said this in past years you are probably you talking about it with less urgency at the moment we have a medical reason there's a completely valid completely obvious completely agreed-upon medical reason somebody says they do that in Florida not aware of that maybe for local level elections somebody says we already have that for early voting well anyway the larger point of it is why was this not part of the national conversation who exactly would be opposed to spreading election day to a week so everybody's safer I just don't see how anybody would oppose that all right it's kind of that kind of messes with your head doesn't it just a little bit because you say to yourself really

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bit because you say to yourself really we got all the way to here and that's the first time I've heard that because that's that's how I felt when I heard it the first times like whoa all right so we have another one of those days where all of our biggest news stories have something in common they didn't happen all the news pretty much fake news this week now when I say it's all fake news I mean the interpretations of it it is true that a target is on fire somewhere in Minnesota so the facts of this is on fire this person died those are all facts but the way we're interpreting it just ridiculous for example there's the the Joe Scarborough story about if the president's allegations that Joe Scarborough killed an employee now I I rush to say there's

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an employee now I I rush to say there's no evidence that Joe Scarborough ever killed an employee which I can't stop laughing when I think about it because it's so audacious it's so ridiculous and you know the president doesn't believe it of course he doesn't believe it and he doesn't say he believes it he simply passes on the rumor make sure you've heard it so the fact that anybody takes this seriously is the funny part of the story the funny part of the story is that the media even reports on it I mean that that should have been you know one or two tweets by the president and which the media should have looked at it and said oh that's funny he doesn't mean that and just ignore it if they could have just ignored it but it became that you know the biggest the biggest thing in the country which of course perfectly plays into Trump's a strategy I would assume which is simply to put some

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assume which is simply to put some pressure on Joe Scarborough I guess awful I forget that one all right so the Scarborough thing is based on something it just didn't happen all right how about another one how about all of the news that will be there was yesterday and last night and today is going to be all about race Wars there's like all this racial tension is that what's happening is that do you feel that do you feel that the story about I can't remember his name George was that his last name the the african-american man who was killed by the police officer in Minnesota recently now of course that happened and then the media and social media have combined to to turn this into a race story do you know what this isn't this is so not a race story this is the least racial story of any story that's ever been told

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story of any story that's ever been told why because there's nobody on the other side of it it's a complete fake story there are no people who think that that was that the police officer acted appropriately there's nobody in the world who thinks that was okay I mean if you've actually watched the video nobody thinks that was okay now there are some people who might be saying I've seen the video of the initial stop I've seen the video of where the you know the the knee was on the neck but there's still that there's sort of a gap missing there which is what happened just before it happened now maybe you're waiting to get the full story but I'm not sure that's going to tell you something you that you need to know because you know the part you watched was bad enough but the point is there are no there's no disagreement on this story if anybody is trying to sell you that that you know black citizens are on one side and white citizens or

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are on one side and white citizens or another side of this story it's just not true everybody's on the same side now let me tell you how you know that this is all political and not actually social and the difference being that if it were a social problem that people were trying to really solve like they actually wanted a solution they would do it a different way but if it's a political problem you don't necessarily want it solved because you want the issue as much as as you could use it so here is my analysis of why you'd know that this is not a real issue meaning that people are not actually trying to solve it they're using it as a political club here's how because the way you would solve this police that what seems to be a problem of at least sometimes police abusing the people they stop how would you best solve that if you just wanted to solve of it and you didn't want to make it a

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of it and you didn't want to make it a political thing how would you do it let me answer the question you would do it the same way that AIDS activists got got straight people to care about AIDS they would tell them it's their problem to write the the genius thing that the LGBTQ community mostly mostly gay man I think did brilliantly was they they made everybody understand that this wasn't a gay problem that aids come you know you can get it in a variety of ways and therefore it's everybody's problem once you've redefined it as everyone's problem what does everyone do well then everyone says how do we solve the problem you get everyone on board you get more funding more attention you give more everything you just got to get everybody on board it was the it was the most brilliant part of the AIDS strategy is to make sure that the country didn't

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is to make sure that the country didn't think it was limited to one group and then you could solve it what would the black community do if they want to solve what they see as and I don't have any data to confirm or disconfirm but what they would see as the police acting to roughly what would be the best way to solve it simple give us statistics about how many white people are getting killed by police right if you told me hey by the way this isn't even a racial problem no matter who gets stopped by the police some number of them are getting killed for not doing much that deserve to get killed wow you just make it a people problem just make it a people problem I'll help because as soon as you make it a people problem then you start talking about solutions you say okay is it a problem that we don't have enough body cams so maybe we could be part of this solution of helping local police fund

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solution of helping local police fund more body cams I wouldn't I wouldn't oppose that would you if if black people want to solve this just tell white people it's their problem too because it is you don't think any white people have been killed by police I'm sure they have and I'm sure that there are plenty of cases where those families of the white people said I don't think this was fair so as soon as you make it a racial problem you're really signaling that you're not trying to solve the problem you're trying to have a political wedge if you want to solve the problem we'll help I I've literally offered to help publicly on this very problem not the Minnesota one but the police problem way back when Kaepernick was making his his you know war public protests I was saying well how can I help right why don't we just treat it like it's a problem that has maybe a clever solution I'll help so if

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maybe a clever solution I'll help so if the black citizens of this country want the everybody else to help them on this topic I think we're all ready to do it who exactly is on the other side so there's a big old fake fake story that there's some kind of racial that there's racial tension over this there is racial tension but it's illegitimate it's illegitimate because we're all on the same side on this story we're all on the same side let's not pretend we're not now as to the looting and the rioting and stuff I don't think you can really associate that with the with the event because the the tragic event can act as a trigger it's like a fake because but I think it had a lot to do with people wanted a television there were there was no police there it was a warm summer

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no police there it was a warm summer night tensions are high anyway because of the lockdown it was just a bunch of things came together and there was this fake you know this fake spark it's like oh let's use this as our excuse to get some big TVs so I would I would treat the the rioting and the looting just as crime you know just ordinary crime I'd I just don't think you should associate it with it anyway but have you seen all the videos of the actual loony I can't stop watching them so there are a lot of you know camera phone types of video and the funniest one is that there's a whole bunch of people with masks on to which I say to myself okay well those are the those the people know how to do some looting yeah they're looting right but there's one video where you can see all the looters in the background most of them are masked and you know they have goods on and stuff

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you know they have goods on and stuff and you see this this there's one white woman running by with an ugly lamp okay and and because there aren't that many videos this would get his kind of prominent she's not wearing a mask so so there's a hundred percent chance that she's being recognized by everybody that she knows who saw this video and she's they're running out of the store looting but lle alexander's of the funniest things that I've been a bit laughing about she doesn't even have a loot right
she's a terrible looter she can't get her ludecke right which is so true it's like I'd like to think that if I were in that situation I could I could loot a little more effectively than she's looting her looting needs a lot of work alright what else is a fake story okay here's another one and Trump's ignoring

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here's another one and Trump's ignoring the Constitution so he's talking about is an executive order an executive order about social media and maybe maybe we know that what that is by now but I haven't seen any details so we don't know what that will look like but of course the critics are saying that Trump is you know ignoring the Constitution being a dictator of which of course is a completely false story because there isn't the slightest chance that whatever Trump does with this executive order there isn't the slightest chance that it won't be tested against all of our legal and constitutional standards because of course it will and he's not gonna stop it
it well you'll fight for his side he might take it to court maybe maybe it becomes a you know Supreme Court of thing but in the end the one thing I can guarantee you is that whichever way the courts and the law go so too will the Trump

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the law go so too will the Trump administration go so it's a complete feint news that the president is looking to violate the Constitution when indeed he's doing exactly the opposite which is trying to work within it you know he might poke every door and push every button and some of them might not work but he's very clearly trying to find solutions within the framework of the Constitution and our legal system and I don't know how you could imagine in your imaginary world that anything else is happening there is a any chance that this is going to become some kind of extra constitutional thing no chance I mean really there's zero chance but people are treating that like like yeah that's happened that's happening he's ignoring the Constitution all right the other big story of course is the Twitter effect checking which as of today my understanding is that's all fake news as well fake news not in the

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fake news as well fake news not in the sense that there was not a fact check banner put on the president's tweet that part's true it's of course the interpretation that's wrong and here's my current understanding I think this might evolve but here's my current understanding of what Twitter did and what Jack Dorsey is saying about it which is completely different than what the news is reporting okay so I believe that everything you've heard about why twit Twitter did what it did is fake news I think it's fake news on Fox News and the fake news on CNN I think it's just all fake news because here's what Twitter was attempting to do and how they explain it and then compare that to how the news has handled it alright so the news has largely handled it as on CNN they're saying the president made some claims about about

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president made some claims about about mailing votes and they were a fake so Twitter called the down and then pointed to accurate information so that's what CNN is that's sort of their take on it that that's fake news Fox's take on it is that it's just more of you know anti conservative bias and why are they picking on the president when there's so many other fake things to do so it's obviously just the beginning of what will be more bias that I believe also is fake news so I think the way it's being handled on both the left and the right are completely different but they're both completely fake news here's what I think is the real story and I'll give I'll give this an 80% confidence level all right because I think you should be you should know that there's a solid 20% chance that this will all be different by tomorrow and tomorrow I'll be telling you I got it all wrong now I know something more but my current

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something more but my current understanding is this this is based on Jack Dorsey's tweets on it and I want you to read them because you need to get his exact wording to know what I'm talking about
so did it to do so first of all Jack said fact-checked there is someone ultimately accountable for our actions as a company and that's me so jack is taking whole responsibility if he says please leave our employees out of this because as you know the specific employee was sort of in social media and on the news as you know the person responsible for this function but Jack accurately states that he's the boss and the boss takes responsibility and I think we all appreciate that so while I don't think this will necessarily stop people from going after employees of Twitter I think we all appreciate when the boss backs up the

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appreciate when the boss backs up the employees right so I think you can appreciate it on a on a leadership level that you want your leader to back up your employees because the employees are doing what you told them to do and if they make a mistake that's sort of an internal problem right so so far I think we could say all right all right you know maybe you still want to say things about individual employees and I think there is a story there because you always have to look at the bias and stuff but I think you could also appreciate at the same time that a leader of an organization once the back the employees and so he did all right so that's one tweet I don't think we have to make too much of that one then he goes on this does not make us a quote and arbiter of truth I think that was referring to maybe it was Zuckerberg comment they didn't the Zuckerberg didn't want a Facebook to be an arbiter of truth and so Larry redresses this does not make us an arbiter of truth our intention is to connect the dots of

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intention is to connect the dots of conflicting statements and show the information in dispute okay so he says the intention is to highlight things or in dispute and then connect the dots the way I read this is that you would see all the dots you see the dots on both sides now remember yesterday I was saying I'd be happy just as a user if if something got labeled fake so long as equally prominently of the equally prominent part the sort of the tricky part because a user interface you can't make everything equally prominent it just can't be done you know logically so your user interface on Twitter it's going to have to use some magic to make you feel like you're getting equal prominence of the of the fact check that says it's false but also the sources to say no no it's not false here's our sources so Jack seems to be signaling with this tweet that the intention is

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with this tweet that the intention is to show both sides of disputed tweets do you have a problem with that would you have a problem let me ask you in the comments would you have a problem if it could be done I don't know if it could be done because it's just hard to execute that but if it could be done that Twitter would flag things that are disputed but clearly show both sides would you be okay with that because I actually would I would be a hundred percent okay with that not only that but I would think that would be positive for conservatives very positive for conservatives because what are you most worried about if you're a conservative or a Republican you're most worried that the other side is not hearing the story because you hear what the management media says you if you're conservative and then you also hear what conservatives say so you're seeing a well-rounded picture I talked about afraid is that I've been using the poorly educated the poorly educated by my definition just for fun is anybody

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my definition just for fun is anybody who's just in one silo of news either the left only or they only see the news on the right that's there's less of a silo there cuz again the left's news is more ubiquitous you see it everywhere so I would say that that's a at least shows the intention of moving in the right direction of showing both sides now the current implementation doesn't do that does it so so it feels like this is a process that's being worked out in Twitter in other words they don't have a final answer they're a/b testing they're putting stuff stuff out you'll probably see a few new looks I wouldn't be surprised if you see three or four looks in the coming year you know just to make sure that you are highlighting things fairly so I would first of all give them a little flexibility I think you should allow them some flexibility to work through this because it's pretty clear

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through this because it's pretty clear they're hearing the complaints I don't think there's any I think I can say with complete confidence there's no chance that Twitter and Jack in particular are not hearing very clearly what the issues are and it's also true that they're clearly trying to work through them in a way that will make most people happy because that's their business model they don't really have the business if they're only catering to half of the country so clearly he wants everybody to use Twitter and that's duh so I would give them a little little time to work through this which is not to say that you should take the pressure off at least the the social you know news related pressure of what you would like to see done so I think the pressure is constructive you know friction is often constructive and I think this is very much a constructive friction situation so if you can step back from you know the carnage for a moment and just sort

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the carnage for a moment and just sort of look at it from 30,000 feet there's something pretty good happening alright or potentially potentially there's something really good happening but you need a little distance from it to be able to see it all right here's the good part so far if I've done this correctly most of you are mad at me right now have I done that correctly a lot of you should be a little bit mad because you're not quite by him what I'm saying but here's here's the punchline here's the kicker jack goes on was his third week and he says per our Civic integrity policy which is an actual published policy the tweets yesterday news talk about the president's tweets about mail and balance the tweets yesterday may mislead people into thinking they don't need to register to get a ballot and then parenthetically says only registered voters receive ballots and we're updating the link on that too to clarify that to which I say

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that too to clarify that to which I say what what because isn't this completely different than what you thought it was did you not think that this was the beginning of Twitter hold on did you now think that this whole mail-in ballot fact checking thing was the beginning of Twitter fact-checking opinion you did didn't you he thought that they were going to start fact-checking just ordinary political opinion and then you say to yourself well how come they have in fact checked the fine people hoax how come they have in fact checked the Joe Scarborough thing why'd they let that go the other side says why not fact check this and that and you're confused right are you confused because there are all these things that could be fact checked but why did they pick this one thing and the answer is jack told you he picked the one thing because it's a special case the special case is saying something

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the special case is saying something that would reduce the voter turnout is this the first time you're hearing that probably is right are you against social media calling out something that would give people misinformation that would cause fewer people to vote no you're not you are not against that you are not opposed to social media correcting misinformation with the purpose of increasing turnout hold on now I believe there was one other thing that got fact-checked by Twitter maybe you need to fact check me on this but you saw the picture of the police the police officer who looks like he murdered a guy in Minnesota and then there was a fake news that there was a picture of him wearing a make America great again hat I think Twitter also called out that as a fake

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Twitter also called out that as a fake picture now look at the two things that didn't I need a fact check on that but look at the two things that Twitter has identified and see if he can find the pattern they've identified a statement from the president that could cause people not to register to vote because the specific problem was the president suggested that everybody would get a mail-in ballot no matter what the problem is if you believe that you might not register to vote and that would decrease the number of people voting would it decrease the number of only Democrats voting nope would it decrease the number of democrats and republicans voting yeah yeah that's the whole problem the whole problem is there's not has nothing to do with politics the whole problem is it's a fact that was wrong and if you believe that wrong fact you might not register

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that wrong fact you might not register to vote so you might hate this but I'm a hundred percent in favor of Twitter's action on this calling it fake I'm gonna back to weather on this because no matter what this source is whether it comes from the President of the United States or comes from Joe Biden or anyone else if everyone publishes something on social media that is wrong information that would cause somebody not to register or not to vote yeah yeah I'm completely in favor of calling that out is there anybody here who's not in favor of that if it let's say hypothetically it was the only thing if it's the only thing that got call that would you be in favor of that I think you would because somebody says it's a flimsy excuse you're gonna have to do better you're gonna have to do better in your counter argument if all you're saying is I don't believe it it's a flimsy excuse it's not

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believe it it's a flimsy excuse it's not good enough well you're gonna have to explain why Jack pointed to a previously written document that completely supports what they did I think I think the news has completely botched it both on the left and the right the news should be the Twitter is trying a new process and it's not working right if you asked Twitter hey did that first fact check work just the way you wanted it to what do you think they would say I think they'd say it didn't work I think don't you think so I think they would say it didn't work we're trying to fix it
it now remember my standard for judging people is always the same it's not about if they made a mistake because that's all of us we're all making mistakes all the time but you can judge people by how they respond so we don't know the full response because this is a you know process but the initial response is to

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process but the initial response is to change the label on it so it's more specific that the only thing they're calling out is that the fact about you should register you're not going to get a mail-in ballot if they clarify that as their only problem I'm not too bad with that I'm not too bad with that I think there's you know room to go they still need to put counter items and stuff but here's the thing the way it's being reported is that Twitter is that Twitter was complaining about the president's statement that mail-in ballots have an opportunity for fraud that's what you thought the mutant you thought the news was the Twitter fact-checked the president saying that mail-in ballots cause fraud and that didn't happen that actually just didn't happen it was reported that way on both the left on the right which I usually tell you means it's true but once you see Jack's

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it's true but once you see Jack's explanation you say oh that's actually a pretty clear standard if the standard makes people less likely to know how to vote the process yeah I'm okay with that now what about the photograph so the other one was a photograph of the wrong person which is pretty dangerous I mean that photograph of the wrong person wearing a Maggie hat do you as many of you are conservatives many of you or Trump supporters did you want that photo to stay on Twitter without a fact check because that's not good for you if you've ever put on a maggot you don't want to see the guy who just murdered a black guy you know incorrectly being labeled as somebody who wears a mega hat you don't want that now what does the photograph and the the voting registration thing have in common they do have something in common and what they have in common is that those are

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they have in common is that those are really basic just facts and they're not opinions what is the Joe Scarborough murdered somebody speculation and opinion did they stop the speculation or the opinion they did not they did not if you look at the full breadth of political thought have they tried to fact-check the fine people hoaxes they have not because that's sort of an interpretation even though you could point to the you know transcript and show that it's it's a wrong interpretation but that's sort of an interpretation it looks to be and I don't know this yet but it looks to be that where they're heading is that they're not going to fact-check interpretations no matter how obviously wrong they are it does look like they're gonna fact-check facts but also maybe show you some you know both sides so you can decide whether the fact is a fact

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can decide whether the fact is a fact now the photograph was just a fact that was wrong the information about the registration is a fact that was wrong here's the other thing that both of them have in common neither the left nor the right would disagree with what I just said nobody on the left or the right thinks that that photograph was the right guy now I mean now that we know and nobody on the left of the right thinks that we should have bad information about how you register to vote there's nobody on the other side if if the only thing that Twitter of fact checks are facts for which nobody's on the other side are you gonna have a problem with that now obviously they blew the first the first iteration but if you've had any experience with interfaces or building software or trying to build a product for the public how unusual is it that

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for the public how unusual is it that your first version doesn't work it's pretty calm all right so I'd give them a little time to work this out now will anybody let go of this no I don't expect the President or anybody else to let go of it because it's such a good political season thing to do now if you wanted to if you wanted to say that social media is doing bad things to you and you don't want it to happen you should definitely look at the following and unfollowing problem because the problem of being automatically unfollowed that is a hundred percent of happening there's any chance in the world that people aren't being automatically unfollowed I just don't know if anybody knows why but that's real I've been that part is absolutely real so we should be pushing on that not on fact-checking facts for which both the left and the right agree is not facts if they push it into the opinion well then now we've got a real

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opinion well then now we've got a real problem right if you see if you see Twitter fact-checking hyperbole speculation opinion or even really outright obvious lies as long as they're obvious lies I don't think they need to fact-check that stuff I think they should be out of that business because then they would be arbiters of truth now let's let's look at this one statement jack says this does not make us arbiters of truth are they an arbiter of truth to tell you that the you have to be registered to get a mail and vote down they're not arbiters they just passed it along they're not are bartering anything nobody even disagrees with that are they arbiters of truth about whether that photograph of the guy in the Hat is true or not true no they're not orbiting orbiting anything that's not a word but you know what I mean they're they're just telling you what you will both sides agree it's not it's not the person that's it so most of our news today is

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that's it so most of our news today is fake as you can see and all right that's enough of a story Joe Biden is being mocked for he made some comment about Delaware declaring its independence as a state I guess I'm December 7th and they said it isn't just d-day and I apparently December 7th he was confusing with Pearl Harbor Day and it's it's not the day the Delaware was independent either so that just the whole thing was confusing but sure Joe Biden is your guy so you want some more fake news here's some more fake news Democrats watch Joe Biden to be their leader you don't believe that do you
Trump said grabbing women by the blah blah blah they let you do it is it

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blah blah they let you do it is it affect or opinion what I mean it's fact that he said it I don't understand the question alright so doesn't it feel like progress that our biggest race problem in 2020 if you had to say what was the biggest racial issue in 2020 we had a bunch of them you know everything from Governor Northam and blackface - you know Jesse's male do you know there's always lots of them I would say that the biggest one is maybe this one you know because you got your riots you got it's closer to election so everything's accentuated but is it not incredibly good news that our biggest race problem actually has everybody on the same side is it really a race problem if everybody agrees you know like I said before it's

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agrees you know like I said before it's kind of good it's a it's sort of a good good sign mic Serna vicha has been calling out that when we see the pictures of the riders it's being sort of cast as black lives matter or causing all the problems but it looks like it's an tyfa it looks like anti-fog might be causing the problems and black lives matters might be getting a little bit framed my beginning a little bit framed by black by an tyfa and just from what i could see from the videos there is there is something to that claim now i don't know if the framing is some kind of intentional act where it's just happening but i think the the way the media is covering it there there's they seem to be covering for an tyfa as if they're not even there and they seem to be emphasizing the racial part which is completely fake it's not faith that

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completely fake it's not faith that people are mad at the police in minnesota at that part's real but but to think that that's a racial problem that's just a media invention all right
so that's my that's my key to you if you want you got my blood pressure up this morning which part alright so I I gave you a lot of stuff this morning I want to see I want to see which parts of this got you most worked up because I think I think I think it's it's always hard to find out that everything you thought about the news is wrong it's just one of those days where pretty much all the big stories are just fake the whole corporation of target is getting pummeled where is the home corporation

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the other side won't take yes for an answer that's exactly what's happening yeah they won't take yes for an answer somebody said this is why Kaepernick took a knee and you all condemned that no nope whoever just said that so they're saying that this is why Kaepernick took a knee and we all condemned it I'm I am prepared to believe that but that's not in evidence because what's not in evidence is how many white people have been killed by police I think you'd find that there are more white people getting murdered by place than black even as a percentage of stops I think you'd find that so if this was a story of oh there it is again only black people are killed by police why would totally agree with you in that case I'd say Kaepernick was completely right should be looked into now from day one I said it's a big issue and we should look into it and take it

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should look into it and take it seriously so I've always I've always been Pro Kaepernick in terms of surfacing the issue the way he did it you can argue bla bla but in terms of surfacing an issue that is of great concern to a lot of people he did a good job on it but the part is missing is that I'm not sure this is a race problem it might be you know I'd be open to some data that would suggest that is true but it looks like a police-training problem on top of maybe some bad apples on top of the media likes to spin at a different way it looks like a problem for all of us you missed the Hat you misread the Hat Scott I didn't miss read that he hats maybe you joined us late but I know what I didn't do is miss read any hats
somebody said Scott is wrong Twitter made a new excuse with revising the

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made a new excuse with revising the correction how do you know is that is that based on your mind-reading I think it's fair it's completely fair to suspect things of people but if you're saying ah I can read Twitter's minds and what they did was they really wanted to just fact check the president in general but they they're they're backing up and they're trying to sell it like they really only meant to fact-check that the fact you can't really do them and you can't rule that out because you don't know what people are you know privately thinking but is it completely consistent with everything we observe that what they intended was to get rid of that just voting fact that would me may have caused people to vote less their story is consistent with observation that's the only thing you know you don't know what they're thinking the way he did it was the main reason he got the pushback

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was the main reason he got the pushback you mean are you talking about Jack yeah I think I feel as if Twitter would agree with the public that the first you know the the first attempt to do a fact check I think they would agree it didn't work right so if you're if you're arguing hey Twitter that didn't work well you just agreeing with them they observed the same thing you observed it didn't work so it looks like they're changing it so let them change it yeah let them give them a little bit of space because they may be having in the right direction you'll have plenty of time to complain the dudes have said make America white again you sound like you are in the you you have a you're poorly educated if you believe that that was the policeman so let me say it if anybody joined late the photo of the policeman wearing a hat with the racist thing on it is not the

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with the racist thing on it is not the same person as the policeman it is now known beyond a doubt it's a different person in that picture we know who the other person is he has a long history he's a well-known character it's not him so if you if you believe that that guy in the Hat was the police officer then you are poorly educated now I don't mean in terms of college or school you're poorly educated because it means you've only been looking at one side of the of the political conversation if you had looked at both sides it's very available information that that's a fake picture it's very available so if you didn't know it ask yourself if you're following the right people on social media you ask yourself if maybe you should sample the other side and see what's going on
Trump did not say registration is not needed that was a misinterpreted by Jack I disagree with your statement because

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I disagree with your statement because the fact that it was a ambiguous is all that Twitter needed if it was ambiguous it was still worth a fact check and I read it as ambiguous so you are you are technically correct that the President did not state as a positive statement you don't need to register and you can still get one of these he did not say that directly well I also read it as you can see it that way I could see that you can see it that way
and so he says let's let's face it 80% of Americans don't give it a about this that's true for most things somebody says he didn't say that idiot I don't know who's the idiot but the Hat actually said that but not the cop I know what that oh the Hat said okay got it so somebody who has corrected me on

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it so somebody who has corrected me on what they have said it did not say Megan on Hattie right but it was a red hat so that is correct [Music] so all right I'm hearing you in the comments you were trying to tell me that it wasn't you were not telling me you were confused about who it was you were correcting me about the statement on the Hat so I take that correction and as correct so you can stop correcting me because I accept that correction uh-huh somebody said Scott was poorly educated when he saw they Covington kids video no that is a incorrect that is an incorrect use of the term poorly educated the both sides the left and the right reported the Covington kid the same way so if you are fully educated and you'd seen all the news coverage you would still be wrong but not because you didn't sample

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wrong but not because you didn't sample all the coverage so you can still be wrong even looking at all the news if they both get it wrong the ballots are sent to addresses not voters and no verification needed yeah you labeled your podcasts with my name can't take it lightly did I somebody says Jack Dorsey is a leftist don't trust the controlled police let me tell you a myth that that many people on the right are under there's this weird myth that there's somebody on the Left who doesn't like freedom I don't think that's true I don't think there's anybody on the Left who only wants control and they want to limit your freedom and they need to they need to be your mommy and tell you what

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need to be your mommy and tell you what to do that's just there is not anybody like that there are certainly people who have political preferences and there are lots of individual things that seem to sum up to that but no there's nobody who's saying I want to I want to control people all I care about is control that's not a real thing
see the lady Newsome said everyone will be mailed a ballot so there are there are two questions here one is whether Twitter's fact check was correct and the other is whether it was legitimate to try to do a fact check on that on that point I think it's legitimate to do a fact check on the point but whether they got it right or not that's why you show both sides that's the whole point of making sure that your surface arguments on both sides all right the poorly educated only took the

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the poorly educated only took the initial Covington report ran with it now I'm going to start I think I'll just start blocking anybody who says the Covington situation is similar to the poorly educated those are not in any way related the poorly educated again because if you if you've only looked at one silo and not the other news I don't know you would be poorly educated you'd be half educated but if you look at them both and they tell you the same news and it's wrong that's not poorly educated that's just the news was wrong somebody said you were like that somebody says you were like that just before I block them say let's see if anybody else wants to get blocked nope you're wrong on that they just don't say it out loud I'm gonna block you for being a mind reader so whoever says that they can read the

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so whoever says that they can read the minds of strangers we don't need to hear anybody else anybody else need a block have you ever studied communism I don't know where that question is going control is a real thing yeah control is a real thing and you just got blocked
yeah it's just not a it's just not an argument that's I don't even want to be around it it's just so useless
in the real world people have individual goals and they have individual individual things they want but nobody is like fighting for the concept of control that's not a thing are there really both sides two facts well there are in the sense that we can't agree on them so yes all right

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them so yes all right so somebody here putting thoughts into my head you get a block it's okay to say your thoughts I always welcome your opinions but what I block for is when people tell me my opinion you don't need to tell me my opinion in public I'm the only one who gets to say that if you tell me my opinion you get blocked I can tell you my opinion and you can tell me your opinion and you'll never get blocked for that unless it's you know some kind of weird Nazi thing all right
somebody says I love your anger yeah I never would have anticipated that my my anger would be a selling point but it's all right what are your comments is funny all right that's enough I got nothing left I'll talk to you tonight see you then