Episode 993 Scott Adams: CDC Blunders, Biden DNA Test App
Date: 2020-05-24 | Duration: 22:33
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hey everybody come on in here tonight nothing but optimism nothing but optimism it's gonna be optimism all over the place once you get in here we're gonna have some interesting updates and while I'm waiting for everybody I don't know if you've seen the new Joe Biden DNA app they said if everybody seen that there's a new app I guess Joe Biden's campaign made it and it's it's like your 23andme competitor or a kind of thing so it'll test your DNA and I was just gonna finish the inputs here so we could get a results while you were waiting let's see it's it's just got one question it says do you plan to vote for Joe Biden no enter and then you get the Joe Biden DNA result that says it says you ain't black what sort of racist
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what sort of racist kind of creepy well that's the Joe Biden DNA app no it's not a real thing but if it were wouldn't it be funny so let me talk about some of the things that are going right I'm gonna give you your away had to be in the comments I'm gonna give you the most optimistic view of the future and then in a few minutes I'm gonna bring on a special guest to talk about convalescent plasma slash blood serum therapy and that's gonna be a in he'll guard to mark teases who's probably queuing up right now to be brought out but before we do that let me show you all the good news now I'm not saying that anything on this list is true this is just pure optimism but some of its true look at all the ways we've cut the risk so these are the
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ways we've cut the risk so these are the ways we know and the ways we suspect we might get lucky but we know the mask seemed to cut the risk by 75% and I was just out at Lowe's home supply a hundred percent of the people have masks because of course they can't get in without them so at least where I am the the the actual compliance is under present distance of course is going to work how could distance not work there's lots of stuff we're going to be doing to make sure we maintain distance of course it'll work I'm just gonna say it'll reduce risk by 50 percent compared to not doing distance what about convalescent blood serum therapy we're gonna hear a little bit more about that in a bit but do we know yet how well it works we don't so I'm just gonna put my optimistic and maybe it's even better but I'm gonna put an optimistic middle ground and say there's
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optimistic middle ground and say there's a 50% reduction of risk once we get to this cooking then of course we know what to do with the rest homes now we knew the wrong thing to do and now we know the right thing to do so I don't think we'll be repeating those mistakes so that probably takes a good 20% right off the top of risk because we finally I think I think we finally figured out how to had to do the old people care facilities right but we got some other wild cards so the things on the left are things that we were pretty sure about at least in the general sense but the things on the right could be good too there's something about summer that seems to make viruses yo lesson is that the humidity is it the Sun this is the heat this is the vitamin D we don't know but it does seem to be something about summer now you give summer a 50% reduction these are just my guesses I'm just being optimistic if you're just joining us I called our vitamin D already maybe
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I called our vitamin D already maybe that's the only reason this summer makes a difference but probably not they're probably the other factors matter too so I'll call this out by itself what if item and E is everything that people say is cut out to be we don't know that because there's a strong correlation it seems but we don't know about the causation let's say this will just be optimistic let's say good vitamin D levels cut your risk by 20% and let's say that the country especially because it's summer is giving go out and get their vitamin D because now they know it matters cut risk by 20% what happens if we get really lucky and the hydroxychloroquine and or in combination with zinc or Meissen or something else what if it works I don't think it's gonna be a magic kill shot because if it were that good we'd already know by now it would just be so obvious if it if it just eliminated the virus we'd know that by now but it might work I mean it might make a difference and if it's not these these mail maybe there's something right
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mail maybe there's something right behind it so I'm gonna give that a 20% reduction of risk what about herd immunity well it's worth something I don't think we're gonna get to 60 or 70 percent but you've got let's say 10% of your public maybe 20% at some point have it well that certainly makes a difference it's not enough to stop it but these things are gonna all add up and then what about the ventilator
situation we know that well there's I I think we can say we know it at this point yeah it's short of being confirmed I just whistle yet it's short of being confirmed but it does seem that we were over ventilating and killing people with ventilators right it seems like we know that now that's not guessing anymore and now we know so there's a gigantic gain just from learning what to do and what not to do and when to do it and when not
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not to do and when to do it and when not to do it but the thing I'm most I'm most excited about in the short term besides mass and distance is this convalescent and I don't know yet I'm gonna ask everyone whether I should call it blood or plasma will we'll get the skinny on that if ian is ready to join me there yes all right if our technology works this is gonna be really interesting p.m. can hear me I'm doing great terrific so make sure though that I pronounced your name right Ian he'll guard Marissa's clothes Marty says did we lose you oh so so did I say your name right - Ian
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oh so so did I say your name right - Ian Hildegard Marty's us am I losing the lost the connection well I know he's going to come right back so let me keep an eye on him that and we hope he will go find a place where his cell phone works a little bit better I think Arius even come back to us come back to us Ian oh wow this isn't gonna work at all is it all right well it looks like we are gonna have to try to do this some other time ah it's funny when I have lots of guests most of them work but what do you have one special guest the technology sneaks up on you I'm gonna see if my guess is that he will be looking for a place for a better connection so I'm gonna keep an
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a better connection so I'm gonna keep an eye on that and if he finds it we'll go with it let me talk about speaking of rest homes well I'm waiting for - try that again let's try it one more time if this doesn't work then we'll probably just need to do it a different day and it looks like it's not gonna work hmm I wonder why anyway let's talk about rest homes and New York so even I don't know if you hear me but it looks like this isn't gonna work for today I'm not quite sure why but we will definitely do this again so here is a really interesting development in the in the Cuomo New York did he put people in rest homes and then they all died turns out that the CDC recommended that so
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out that the CDC recommended that so even Fox News was reporting about today that apparently the CDC guidelines were that you should put them back in the the homes that they came from when when it's safe now of course the you wanted safe part is this is a wild card I guess nobody knows so yeah I'm watching you're watching your comments somebody says that is BS he blames the CDC well the CDC gave the guideline so apparently there were a dozen states that did the same thing that Cuomo did and the reason that it doesn't states through the same thing he did is that they all had the same guidelines from the federal government now how did we not know that right why is it why is it today we learned that the CDC recommended exactly what he did now I know you still wanted
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what he did now I know you still wanted to be a terrible person people are saying it's not true it's not true well I I read it in the news minutes ago if it's not true maybe the news needs to fix itself but five years did you see that coming I kind of came out of nowhere didn't it now part of the question is why did other governors do it differently that's a good question right there were other governors who did not do a Cuomo did and yet they all had the same guidelines so would you say that the ones who played it correctly were the smart ones and the ones who followed the guidelines from the CDC were the bad ones I think at at worst the worst case scenario is if the governor's were actually following the CDC guidelines worst case scenario is the CDC Salt
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the CDC Salt best-case-scenario there were some governor's who for whatever reason played in a different way but here's what I suspect would be true this is just based on this is not based on any information this is based on living in the real world for a long time if you live in the real world for a long time they're just certain patterns you see one of those patterns is but if you're looking at the specifically the nursing home situation probably there were different situations in each state and I'll just give you an example and I'm not saying that this is what happened but it's an example of how you could be missing the bigger picture one possibility is that the the rest home situation is just different in different places it could be for example I'm just giving you a you know for example imagine if you will that a lot of rest homes in one state were essentially run and organized if you had one entity that
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and organized if you had one entity that ran a whole bunch of rest homes you could say that that entity hey can you you know move stuff around so that one of them is completely emptied and you'll you'll just move them into the other places and then you'll have one that you can use just for the covert patients now that would be kind of easy to do if you had one owner who owned a chain of rest homes and they were geographically not too far apart because she's always try of grandmas to the other one now imagine you're in a state where that's not the case imagine every restaurant rest rest home has an individual owner and what you want to do is empty one of them and use it just for coronavirus patients it's harder right now suddenly you've got to get somebody who gives up their entire restaurant and just turns it into a coronavirus place it's not a chain that's just moving everything around and
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that's just moving everything around and nobody feels too much pain it's just one person it's just gonna go out of business basically for a while you know I don't have the money would work but the point is it's a lot to ask of one operator it could be that the individual operators were smaller in one state maybe there are some states such as Florida where they have so many old people they have massive infrastructure far more professional management because it's more of an industry in Florida to keep old people safe so the point is you can imagine a whole bunch of things that are sort of the the details of what's different about the rest home situation where it would be easy to imagine that only in a few states it was easy to make the change there was the smart change which is to use one facility just for a coronavirus patients and keep everybody else safe I would not assume you're set I'm gonna block you for set four for this saying I
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block you for set four for this saying I sound like a korma apologist if something's true you're not an apologist in fact if you call anybody an apologist well I'll just I'll just speak for myself if you call me an apologist you're not paying attention you're missing the whole show if that's what you're getting out of it why would I be an apologist for Cuomo why really can you think of any reason I would go out of my way to be biased and Fay of a governor of a state I don't live in there's no reason I'm just telling you what I say if you don't like it if you don't like it I can't do much about that I'm just explaining what I say all right I'm a physics apologist because you fell
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I'm a physics apologist because you fell for the folksy brother routine did I fall for it I just gonna block you to see I generally block people for when they tell me my opinion I'm happy when you tell me your opinion you never get blocked for telling me your opinion but if you tell me my opinion you have to get blocked there's nothing productive that I can do with you all right somebody now somebody's saying it's not the CDC it's the CMS and I believe that they also had guidelines but if you were the governor of New York and there's a and there's a crisis and it's a fire ology crisis and there are two entities telling you what to do and one of them is the CDC it doesn't matter what the other one was right I'm hearing you when you say there were two entities
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you when you say there were two entities because I saw that as well you know one was the what is it Melia Medicare doesn't matter because one of them was the CDC it just doesn't matter what the other ones that it's a it's a it's a virus crisis people are going to do with the CDC tells them to do all right let's see if he in his back
Ian may be back and let's see if he has a different phone or different technology oh this is looking better Ian you're there all right I do you have different technology or are we gonna cut out again what do you think same technology but I what yeah Andy's gone okay alright let's acknowledge isn't gonna work he and we will have to find new technology and try it again alright I swear that will make that work one of
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I swear that will make that work one of these times but I think it's just his cellphone didn't have didn't have a signal where it is so anyway just to finish up on the the CDC stuff whoever saw that the story would go there that the CDC would be and now of course there's gonna be questions whether he interpreted the right weather reacted soon enough whether he adjusted quickly enough and by the way if if if you would like me to say something bad about Cuomo and it turns out because I don't know the details yet if it turns out that he knew there was a problem for a long time and he didn't adjust then I would blame him for not adjusting but getting it wrong in the first place if the CDC had a guide lying about that I can't hold that against them but absolutely I would hold it against him yes if they quickly knew there was a problem and it took him a long time to adjust and do it looks like he took him a long time to adjust
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like he took him a long time to adjust but I'd need to know the details in there but if you want a criticism hell yeah if it took too long to adjust why why would I ever defend that who could defend that but I don't know the details there so I can't make that claim yet all right it's okay not to blame and he ordered yeah he ordered a lot of hydroxychloroquine so let me finish up with the CDC let me let us look at their record so the CDC said don't close the airport they're wrong about that they said you wouldn't transmit between humans of course they heard that from China but they got that wrong I think correct me if I'm wrong I made this I'm not I'm just spitballing here they were wrong about the masks and now they might be wrong about know something else is wrong
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wrong about know something else is wrong they're wrong about they were wrong about how likely it transmits on physical surfaces they were wrong about and now probably this you know this restaurant thing so yeah and the CDC was wrong about the tests the test kit that was the test kit was the biggest the test it was the biggest mess up well I don't know maybe these were all big mess ups right so there was the didn't want to close the airport wasn't transmittable people-to-people mask will kill you rest homes basically every major problem was the CDC wasn't it if you think about it it looks like the CDC probably is responsible for 50,000 deaths I would guess
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explain my retweet on the eye effect and study I didn't understand I don't remember that retweet what was i from Acton's I ever met them I don't know if that is there's so many new little studies that are coming out yeah so that the surface is etc so I think the CDC is the is sort of I know who do you trust less the World Health Organization or the CDC I mean even even the the poor Surgeon General I mean he was saying don't wear masks you know he was taking advice from from the other experts but still come on
somebody says what is more toxic hydroxychloroquine or the CDC yeah I don't I don't think we can get you in back on he's going to need a different phone or a different location I think one of those two things so yeah all
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one of those two things so yeah all right well I don't have anything else to say so let me check one more time see if he even came back he looks like he's back we'll see if he's got a new phone or he's in and hey let's see if we can keep you out for more than five seconds this time I'm doing my best and are you in the same place with the same problem same sounds like he's in the same place with the same phone all right well no matter how many times we try exactly the same thing it's not going to work but we'll make this work some other time but for tonight I will thank you all for coming and I will see you in the morning