Episode 941 Scott Adams: I Overslept. Come Sip With Me.

Date: 2020-04-28 | Duration: 46:58

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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a Content: My disagreement yesterday with 2 qualified, medical doctors Sweden’s coronavirus strategy…didn’t work? Winning against all odds South Korea’s reporting on Kim Jong-Un

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[Music] [Applause] hey everybody come on in it's time for coffee with Scott Adams yeah it's part of the best part of the day well I can't tell you how hard I've been laughing this morning if my eyes look like they're if they're red it's not from crying it's from laughing rarely do you get such a clean win as I add this morning you know you sometimes you wake up and you you wake up and you think what's today gonna be like because yesterday I was getting hammered yesterday and then last night I was just getting hammered on social media now let me tell you why if you missed the show but I'll do that after the simultaneous up yeah it's after the same little simultaneous set and all you need is a cup of marker glass detector chelators time in the canteen trigger flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee join me now for the

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like coffee join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that dopamine kid of the day the thing that makes everything better including the coronavirus it's called the simultaneous if it happens now go oh where was I oh yes I was talking about how much fun I was having this morning so yesterday and last night just to catch you up before I get to the good part I swear to God I couldn't be any happier this morning if you wonder what it's like to see me looking so happy that I can't stand it this is what it looks like I know it won't last but man am I gonna enjoy it this morning so I'm having a sort of a shadow of the feeling that I felt a weaker version when Trump won the election and I went from the the

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won the election and I went from the the dumbest guy in the whole world then I spent a year and a half being the dumbest guy in the whole world until he won the election and then I was the smartest guy in the world yeah at least for an hour it felt like that so yesterday I had criticized this viral video that was going around the internet most of you seen it by now there was a dr. Erickson and some other doctor mostly Erickson I think was talking and he was an ER doctor and he has he had his own statistics and arguments about the corona virus and and he said he said basically as argument was hey look at my numbers according to my numbers coronaviruses sort of overblown let's get back to work now people sent it to me and I ignore it and they send to me and more people send it to me and I still ignored it because there are lots of stuff on the internet to look at yeah

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of stuff on the internet to look at yeah I in the beginning I didn't think it was important it was just one of many things that people said to me but then people started DMing it it's like oh my god you know there's something to be directly I'm getting it through I got it through LinkedIn I got it everybody's sending me this this video so alright I'm gonna go look at it so I listened to the doctor I get about five minutes into it and my head is on fire because everything he says sounds to me not being a doctor not being an expert not being epidemiologist but it sounded to my cartoonist brain like it was all BS like you didn't even didn't even sound a little bit credible everything he said sounded either under informed or reckless I used the word reckless it sounded like he was comparing the wrong things it was like he was bad at math I mean it was just a hot mess so I made the mistake of

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hot mess so I made the mistake of publicly disagreeing with two experienced doctors who were on the front line of this crisis how do you think that went for me yesterday how do you think it went when I disagreed with two doctors who had a viral video who were saying exactly what people wanted to hear see that was the problem the trap if you will the trap somebody says your ego is huge whoever said that please don't leave yet whoever it just made that comment your ego is huge you have to stay you have to hear the end of the story you'll be so disappointed if you don't so all day long I was hammered for being the idiot cartoonists who would dare to disagree with doctors professional real qualified doctors and all day long people said to me and all night they said Oh Scott tell us about your doctor degree oh where did you get your virality experience Scott because you

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virality experience Scott because you know you're a cartoonist these are professional medical doctors went to medical school you're not an idiot like you now to make things worse because I like to do that to myself sometimes when I'm in hot water sometimes I like to add some hot water to the hot water I don't know why it's like a character defect honestly it is I'm not proud of this at all when I get in a lot of trouble my first thing instinct it often is I'm in a lot of trouble I'm really exposed here how could I make this a lot worse I swear to God I think like that and it's part of it is because I want to see if I can get out of the trap I want to see if the trap is so bad then it looks like I can't get out and then just to see if I can you know it's sort of like going to one of those escape rooms you know you go to an escape room where they you have to figure out how to escape well you do it just because it's hard that's the

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it just because it's hard that's the whole point that's why you climb the mountain because it's hard so after being beat up roundly for making medical opinions I doubled down and I said you know the last time we had this conversation we meaning the internet my critics and me it was over the question of face desks does anybody remember that I bring it up too often because it's too much fun when it was the cartoonist against the entire medical community the Surgeon General World Health Organization foul Qi saying the mass were not effective and I like an idiot said no allowed me to overrule the medical opinion of every professional on the planet with my cartooning degree I don't have a degree but you know what I mean my cartooning experience but who was right well I was I was right and every medical professional in the world who probably wasn't wrong I think they were lying or

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wasn't wrong I think they were lying or they were trying to protect the supply so based on the fact that I was right once just just realize how dumb this is okay this is the beauty of how how fun this is if you don't realize how stupid I was you're not going to fully appreciate how it turned out alright so like an idiot I overrule the but the highest doctors in the world publicly you know very vigorously but I got lucky I got lucky on that all right because it turns out that I'm pretty good at spotting so you don't need a medical degree to spot obvious that's actually a separate skill so when people were saying scout scout scout you don't have a medical degree they were actually they were reading the wrong book because the book they should be reading is not the medical book it's the spotting book because if you're

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spotting book because if you're a bullshitter spotter and you saw the doctor say the facemask don't work well the detector was on you know 10 my mama detector so then these two doctors come along I watched this video for five freaking minutes I told people I bailed out after five minutes because it was lacking so much credibility that I couldn't stand it anymore and then what did people say Scott how can you have a confident public you idiot in public you're saying this how can you have a confident public opinion about medical professionals you're not a doctor and worse you fricking idiot you didn't even watch the video are you kidding me you only watched five minutes of this long video and that was enough to conclude that you're the expert Scott and these medical experts are not good

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and these medical experts are not good try Scott so I woke up this morning you also heard that the video got taken down by YouTube and a lot of people said censorship censorship and I said well you should at least consider the possibility that YouTube also thinks it's not good medical advice and people said doesn't matter there's still censorship we should be able to see it even if it's not true it's a which is a fair argument by the way I'm not arguing that point as long as you could also see the counter-argument said people and I thought to myself that that's a that's a reasonable argument but it would also be reasonable to say that you can't scream fire in a crowded theater would you agree we've sort of accepted that free speech does exist but you still can't yell fire in a crowded theatre because it would just be a health problem people would kill each other trying to get out

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would kill each other trying to get out similarly you know analogies are always dangerous right but you could make an argument they're giving objectively bad medical advice during the during an emergency in which it's very much life-and-death then if people got the wrong medical advice that might be like yelling fire in a crowded theatre you could make the argument right so I'm not going to I'm not going to come down and either side of that I'm just going to say the argument exists and then it happened last night so I wake up this morning to a statement from the AC EPA AEM it goes like this
the American College of Emergency Physicians and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine they sell pretty medical don't they they sell very medical jointly and then fatica li condemned the recent opinions released by dr. Daniel Erickson and dr. art

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by dr. Daniel Erickson and dr. art Massey he the two doctors on the viral video these reckless what they used the word reckless who else used the word reckless oh yeah it was me these reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemic epidemiological regarding covet nineteen fill in medical word back in that sentence as owners of local urgent care clinics that would be the doctors were on the video it appears these two individuals are releasing biased non peer-reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public's health what I can't even believe they said this now you've seen you've seen condemnations before from professional organizations right we see that last time some

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right we see that last time some organization will say oh this person does not speak for us we condemn them I've never seen one condemned this art this is this is sort of the hardest condemning I've ever seen it says kovat nineteen misinformation is widespread and dangerous members of the ACEP and AAA mr first he had witnesses to the human toll bah-bah-bah and we strongly advise against using any statements of doctors erickson and massey as a basis for policy and decision making may I may I simply sit here and bask in my victory have you ever seen have you ever seen anybody win this heart
now I hope you're enjoying this as much as I do now for those of you who are sort of new to this new to the show if you will one of my most frequent themes

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you will one of my most frequent themes I write about it in my books is managing your ego what you're watching is me not managing my ego at all like I right now I'm doing whatever is the opposite of managing my ego I'm just letting it run like it sounded I just let it outside my ego is on social social isolation but I just decided to open all the doors and it's just now so but my less of is this you can let your ego out to play on these special cases because really how often do you get to be the biggest jerk in the world for a day and a half and then win this heart I mean really this is a very special situation so I'm going to enjoy it a little bit and then I'm gonna try as best I can to remember to remind myself of how often I'm wrong about other stuff so I'm gonna be today I'll be struggling to to try to rein it

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I'll be struggling to to try to rein it in and get back to maybe some kind of a normal normal mental state but come on yeah you have to agree that me calling out these two doctors as being medically unfit in public continuously for a day and a half while the entire frickin world disagreed with me was kind of gutsy all right are you gonna give me that it was kind of gutsy maybe stupid right if I'm being honest if I'm being honest I can't really tell the difference between gutsy or stupid the only thing I know for sure is that it worked out my way so as long as it worked out my way I'm happy all right oh my god I'm yeah I just won't be able to stop laughing about that all day long I swear I I thought I was going to wake up today to another day of yesterday where everybody in the world would be telling

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everybody in the world would be telling me a minute because I'm trying to overrule these professionals this could not be more delicious sorry I'll change the topic eventually here's another one I don't know if you can actually stroke out or have some kind of like medical condition that's caused by winning too much remember the president warned me he warned all of us really that we we might get tired of winning but he didn't say that it might be medically dangerous this next topic is going to start going into the realm of medically dangerous you know the other thing I've been saying in public that I think everyone disagreed with me probably you I'll bet every one of you disagreed with me on the following point which is that Sweden doesn't tell you anything how many of you thought we'll look as Sweden Sweden's not doing the

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look as Sweden Sweden's not doing the lockdown it's not so bad everything's fine right so we should be more like Sweden who is the one person in the world who said now don't look at Sweden you think you can tell something but it's a trick because there's just too much this different there well so today's CNN as a story that basically the summary is that the Sweden experiment didn't work that's it so that's the news today so everybody who everybody was on the side of look at Sweden let's do what they do read see and then today there's an article on there it goes into detail compares them to the other the other like countries in the region not the United States but Norway and Finland etc and it shows that they they have a far higher death rate and their death rate is so high that there are professionals doctors and stuff within Sweden who were begging the country to do what the other countries are doing because they're in

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countries are doing because they're in so much trouble now they haven't overloaded any hospitals and it's still only like twenty two and a thousand or something like that whatever the number is 100,000 but it's a so it's not like they're a crushed but according to the news The News says we didn't didn't work and it's heading in the wrong direction right now you can still say the verdict is out and I will agree with you you can still say the verdict is out but you can no longer say Sweden works that's off the table if you're being honest about it well you can say is ooh Sweden's Sweden sort of in dangerous territory it might it might still be better than the alternative but it's not looking good in Sweden and it's looking a little dangerous over there you could say that that would be fair but you could no longer say look at Sweden it's working in Sweden that's off the table if you say that you're no longer

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if you say that you're no longer consistent with the data but you certainly could say it might be better than the alternatives so if you said to me yeah you know all the choices are bad if we keep the economy closed it's terrible if lots of people die it's terrible Sweden is not ideal but they haven't you know they haven't gone out of business either so you can keep your argument that we should take the Sweden model but you cannot say it's going well so that's off the table
there was a story I was going to tell you that I've decided against Rob Reider you know all on the Rob Reiner big critic Hollywood guy critic of the president so he writes he tweets this and I only pointed out because I would love to know somebody says Scott is being paid by who who is paying Scott

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being paid by who who is paying Scott you must be new so whoever thinks that somebody could buy me you're very new but you're also gone goodbye
for the people who are new you get immediately blocked for stating in public what what my private thoughts are so if you're speculating about my my private motivations or what I'm really thinking I block you for being a bad mind reader because one of the things I learned back when I was younger and more naive about human nature somebody would misinterpret what I said and then I would make I would make the mistake of saying no no no you think you're disagreeing with me but you're actually misinterpreting what I said so you don't realize it but you're actually disagreeing with your own misinterpretation so let me let me

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misinterpretation so let me let me correct this for you let me tell you what I really did say and that we could have a conversation about my actual opinion and I used to think well that will work why wouldn't that work if somebody's mistaken I correct them and then we talk about the actual correct opinion that has never worked in my entire life and finally I just said why does this never work what's going on here why is it that when somebody misunderstands what you're saying and you correct them it doesn't make any difference they still argue some other thing that they'll just replace their old misunderstanding with a new one and then argue the new wrong thing and then they can move to the new wrong thing and the new wrong thing but what the one thing that never happens in all of the public and private debating that I've had over my entire life the one thing that's never happened is that people say oh that way that's what you meant okay let's have a conversation based on why you actually meant not once my whole

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you actually meant not once my whole life and there's a reason for it now you say to yourself well that can't be true it can't be true that not once that's happened maybe you know maybe I have some false memory and once it did happen but generally speaking the reason that people misunderstand what you're saying and then argue the misunderstanding is not because they didn't stand it that's the part that I missed for decades for decades I thought why are they acting so irrational and the reason is is it's cognitive dissonance so cognitive dissonance is what happens when somebody hears an argument that ruins their worldview so let's say somebody believed let's say somebody believed I don't know that well I'm trying to think of something that we can all relate to it doesn't matter let's say somebody believed that the the moon was made of cheese and they believed that their whole life and then you do a

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that their whole life and then you do a SpaceX or you do a rocky ship goes up there it takes a sample back shows it to the person says see it's not cheese it's just this is dirt and dust and rocks and stuff now in the if the people were rational what would the person who thought the moon was made in a cheese do well they say oh wow I've been wrong about this cheese thing for a long time but there it is there's the proof and you actually showed the video I know that you shot the rocket I watched the launch that's what you'd expect right but that doesn't happen never happens the person will say well you think you faked the moon shot they'll say yeah but that's not actually dirt from the mood that's fake dirt that you substitute so you can't get somebody who's in cognitive dissonance to find your point because missing the point is the only thing that mattered to them they have to miss the point in order to maintain their worldview so so people will just

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their worldview so so people will just go all over the place to avoid losing their worldview anyway I don't know why I was talking about that it just sort of popped up I want to tell you the story that ruined me I think I'll tell you this story after all so a reasonable question that one might ask is how did I guess so cocky and people have been asking me that a lot lately it has a lot to do with me being write a lot so of course I'm cockier when I'm more right and when I'm more wrong about things I tend to tone it down as one as one should but there was a there's something that happened to be an eighth grade that is part of my story remember I told you that it's good to have a story that is a story of you so that there's sort of a personal story that is your your brand it's sort of internal you don't have to

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it's sort of internal you don't have to share it with anybody but it's basically the story that describes you and my story as I've told you is that I always win now it's not true obviously it's not true that I always win I'm sure I lose probably as much as everybody else you know if you actually you know did a scientific study of it but my story is that I can come from behind and my story is that I can win against great odds now I have lots of anecdotal you know stories that that's happened probably a dozen different situations in which I beat the odds in ways that just that just seemed weird it just doesn't even seem possible I mean the fact that I I'm even here talking to you this because I beat the odds in so many ways it's hard to believe but I think it all started in eighth grade and here's the story my 8th grade teacher was teaching the class how to properly answer questions

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class how to properly answer questions on an upcoming standardized state test I think it was the Regents and he said he said I'll we'll go over some example questions and that'll teach you the year the the basically the style of how to answer the questions you know and they were multiple choice and that the instructor says the teacher says all right now here's the question and the answer obviously is B so you would put B in this little box and I raised by and I said no I think the answer is actually a and the you know my biology teacher was like you know you could tell he was a little put out he was like no the answer is B and they starts to go on to the next thing it was like yeah and I hear what you're saying but I'm pretty sure the answer is a now keep in mind what's going on here I was in eighth grade and he was a biology teacher and it was a biology question on

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teacher and it was a biology question on a standardized test one assumes that he also had the answers sheet right so he's a biology teacher with the answer sheet and I'm disagreeing with him in the class and telling him he got the wrong answer on a multiple-choice test of which this question was designed to be the easy and obvious one because it's used as an example to teach the class how to answer the question and so he said now no I trust me I'm the biology teacher you're the student it's B and this will this will this will tell you more about me than anything that you ever anything you would ever need to know about me is in this next part of the story and then I said yeah I don't think so nope I'm not buying it I'm not buying that you're right because you're the biology teacher and I'm the student

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biology teacher and I'm the student because I'm looking at this question and I'm telling you it's a few days go by and by the way I asked him if he had the answer sheet and he said no I don't have the answer sheet but let me remind you I'm a biology teacher with a biology education this is the course I teach you would be a student who has not learned this yet I say it's B that's the end of the story a few days later teacher comes to me in class he goes uh I was kind of curious and so I I hunted down the actual answer to that question and the answer was a you were right now I think that ruined me for the rest of my life because do you know how funny to be an eighth-grader have a public discussion about your your with your

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discussion about your your with your teacher about the right answer to a biology question and have him have to admit and he decided he sided in front of the rest of this class and he had to admit that our public disagreement went my way and and by the way the only reason that I knew I had the right answer is because there was something about the way the question was worded and that I as a good multiple choice question answerer just sort of deduced it because the structure of the question I didn't even know the content I didn't even know the subject matter I just thought the question was worded differently and so anyway I think that ruined me because it's sort of reinforced that that thing that I could disagree with Authority like an idiot and still come out okay and you just watched me do it again disagreeing with Authority is really stupid if you ever find yourself in my situation where you

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find yourself in my situation where you want to disagree with the greatest experts in the world don't do it don't do it it's not gonna go your way very often you're not gonna get lucky I mean I feel like there might be some luck involved here because even I can't believe that I'd beat the odds so often but I do have a history of it those of you know my story with my voice problem for three and a half years I couldn't speak intelligent intelligently intelligibly because I had this weird voice problem where my vocal cords would would constrict and three and half years of asking doctors how to solve it didn't work I ended up solving it myself by finding a doctor somewhere in the world who had a solution but I couldn't find him through my doctors I found them through my own work and now I'm cured so there are tens of thousands of people all over the this country right now as we speak there are tens of thousands of

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we speak there are tens of thousands of people who literally can't speak when they try to talk it's like it's doubtful nothing comes out and if there's tens of thousands of people the reason that they can't get a solution is because their doctor told them there wasn't one there is one I know it I had the surgery I'm talking to you right now could you hear me right now if there were not a surgery that cured that very problem no so all over the doctors there let's say each of these people has at least one doctor there are probably 40,000 people which means there are probably 40,000 doctors who got the wrong answer on this question 40,000 of them who their patient came in and the doctor said I don't know what that is never seen this before or they said I do northa says it's called cognate scald the spasmodic dysphonia and there's nothing you can do about it except Botox treatments that they don't work that well so how often are doctors wrong in

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well so how often are doctors wrong in my in my experience quite a bit could I sing which is actually a good question no but I couldn't sing before so I don't know how different that would be my my range of my vocal range definitely is constricted after the surgery meaning that I can't do I can't do an artificial high pitch if I wanted to I can't go up I can't go up very high but I can go down pretty low as low as I couldn't before but it took a little off the top range somebody says are in the same position got a condition the doctors can't solve yeah try Google I found a patient with the same condition on Google which caused me to be able to track down the doctor why did Trump get mad at Kemp did he get mad more and more

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mad at Kemp did he get mad more and more so than he normally does I don't know oh here's a little insight on South Korea so let's talk about kim jeong-hoon so the president yesterday let it slip basically that he knows what the situation is at North Korea well he said that directly that wasn't the slip he said he knows the situation now that doesn't mean he's right but he said it with confidence and he's the president of the United States I think he knows the situation but he can't be hundred percent sure and he said that that he hopes that Kim gets better now would you say he hopes that Kim gets better if he thought you were dead no he would simply not say that sentence at all he would just say something like well I hope North Korea does well or I hope I hope things work out or you know I'm thinking good things for the family he would say something generic generic he wouldn't say something about him

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he wouldn't say something about him getting better unless he knew he was still alive now why is it that South Korea is insisting unique among the intelligence services and governments it seems that South Korea is the most contrarian they seem to say we see no evidence that there's anything wrong how does that make sense isn't South Korea the most likely to know what's going on right there's no doubt about it South Korea well maybe China but South Korea is probably the most in the know about what's happening there and they say we don't see anything nothing to see here why could that be why would they say there's nothing to see and all the other ones say there is it should be obvious to you it should be obvious why South Korea's answers are contrarian and here's the answer South Korea has to live with North Korea we get to say they think we want because

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we get to say they think we want because we're safely on the other side of the world you know Kim jong-un isn't going to come after me and the president is also being very very diplomatic he doesn't get credit he doesn't get enough credit I don't think for being as good a diplomat as he is when he wants to be it's when he doesn't want to be that people who get you know conserved but what he wants to be a good diplomat he's maybe the best I've ever seen and I would say that North Korea is the best example of that because I think President Trump did things diplomatically there that just probably weren't even possible for someone else I think he just has a skill that allows him to do some situations better than other people and that was one you could argue that there are other things he's not as good at but this will he's been around so here's why South Korea would play it differently what would happen if South Korea broke the news that North Korea had a change of leadership

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had a change of leadership how would North Korea react to that after the fact not good North Korea is not going to be happy if South Korea breaks news about North Korea you see that right if South Korea says yeah we know what's going on up there and it looks like he's dead or he's in a coma oh my god North Korea is going to say what the hell are you guys doing we're keeping this quiet because we want to keep this quiet you South Koreans are the people we want to someday unify with why are you doing this why are you telling our secrets when we you know we don't want you to do that you know we don't want you to do that we're keeping a secret that's not an accident we're intentionally keeping your secret South Korea we're supposed to be you're the guys we're supposed to be able to work with you're the guys we're trying to make peace with why are you doing this it would be it would be the most

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this it would be it would be the most impo light and disrespectful thing the South Korea can ever do so ask yourself now if you're the head of South Korea and breaking this news even if you do know the news would be so inappropriate diplomatically politically even personally even personally because you know he's gonna have to deal with the family or whatever's left or maybe Kim himself they're gonna be dealing with the family or some member of the family and probably you want to be as good as you can be to set the stage because they're gonna have a rough transition probably in North Korea if if the news is right there can have a rough transition it's risky South Korea doesn't want to be part of that the last thing the South Korea wants the last thing South Korea wants is to be brought into some kind of a fight that they don't need to be part of so there there are wisely just staying out of it now there are two

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staying out of it now there are two situations in which South Korea would say we don't see anything happening one is if there's nothing happening and two if there's something happening you should expect exactly the same response from South Korea just so they can stay out of the drama that would be the right play TMZ verified sources somebody says okay Scott is Kim alive or dead well if if the president can be taken as someone who knows the answer to that not not a hundred percent sure and if he knows the answer then the answer is he was still alive as of yesterday because that's what the president indicated quite clearly but we don't know if the president knows either so I would say the odds of and there seems to be more reporting about an April surgery you

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reporting about an April surgery you know we've heard two stories one of them one of the stories to say he might have been injured when one of the missiles was tested and then another one is he may be he had heart surgery that went wrong and I'm thinking the missile test story where maybe he was injured in a missile accident sounds to me like the least likely situation of all because if a missile blew up on the launch pad we wouldn't know that we'd probably have satellite pictures by now we'd have a picture of you know Kim jong-un's entourage and you know there'd be a satellite picture of the ground you know you'd see where the explosion was and I don't I I think there's very little chance that it was an explosion he had said Road injures kim jeong-hoon he is both he is both dead and alive at the same time until proven otherwise isn't coronavirus an obvious probability not in terms of

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obvious probability not in terms of communication so somebody so it is speculated that maybe Kim is just hiding out from the coronavirus but that wouldn't explain why it doesn't show up on video it doesn't explain why you wouldn't be issuing statements in his own name it wouldn't explain why you just wouldn't explain it because if you were staying if he were a light if you were lying low because of the coronavirus I think he'd just say so but because every other leader is doing it so I think I think coronavirus is maybe a contributing factor in some way to the story but I don't think it's the D story
what about the New York Times reporter Davey well I haven't heard anything since my my my curse Laden opinion of that situation what's the difference

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that situation what's the difference because the Kim's are just figureheads I think they're figureheads who do have their fingers of the nuclear buttons are you a finger head if you're the what figurehead if you're the one who controls the nukes I don't think China controls North Korea's nuke I mean I wouldn't I wouldn't say it's impossible that seems pretty unlikely Kim can't admit that he's susceptible because the public views him as a god well if he wants to keep his god-like aura all I ask to do is appear on video say hey Here I am how you doing he doesn't have to admit these hiding because of it so the fact he's done a video tells me that he's in bad shape all right somebody says Kim likes to be in the news so maybe creates the stories for himself I doubt it do you think his military is trapping him keeping him for making a deal with Trump you know let me

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making a deal with Trump you know let me say let me say that of all the hypotheses that one would be the second strongest I think I think the first strongest is that he's legitimately sick but if I had to pick a second choice second choice would be the he's under house arrest yeah that would be second choice but I think that's really low low on the scale but still second choice he can't be seen because we will that will ruin the weight loss reveal so maybe it's a weight loss reveal I thought at one point he was kidnapped yeah I don't think so he fell off a white horse I'd hate to be the surgeon who botched that surgery if that's what happened now let me ask you this if you're the surgeon and you've got kim jong-un on your operating table you know that one little slip of the

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you know that one little slip of the scalpel could end his regime but it might kill you too might even kill your family but you've got this shot do you think it's possible that there could be a top surgeon who would be willing to risk his life maybe his family's life to kill Kim jong-un on the operating table and I would say probably not because I think that by the time you get chosen to be Kim jong-un's personal surgeon they've done a lot of checking and they've got your family on you know your family is already surrounded you know so your family would be killed if you make a mistake so it's hard to imagine that the surgeon would do it intentionally it's not impossible not impossible I mean maybe he could say well I'll make it look like a mistake you know nobody's gonna blame me if it's you know people die all right somebody says North Koreans are brainwashed to not try well the

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are brainwashed to not try well the thing with brainwashing is it doesn't affect everybody the same way the one thing you could be sure of is even if you accept that North Korea is the most brainwashed population on earth it's still not a hundred percent brainwashing doesn't work that way because the brains are too different you can't do one kind of brainwashing and get every person gives their own individual brains and situations will make them make some people immune all right
North Korea surgeon never dealt with fat people before now that is an interesting that is a really interesting hypothesis think about that there are literally probably no other fat people in North Korea the southern North Korean surgeons who probably not practice anywhere else might literally have never worked on an overweight patient that's actually a really good observation I don't know how

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really good observation I don't know how much extra heart that is you know maybe maybe once you've you know get through the upper layer maybe it's all the same on the inside so I don't know if that makes a difference all right he's shaking so badly yeah I can imagine those heads would be shaking badly if you were operating on a god on the other hand if you thought you were operating on a god would you be worried that you would die what kind of God dies from an operation another surgeon said he was nervous about working on an obese patient so so maybe that is a thing got to be another fat person in North Korea then it might not be because you know a lot well there might be in the in the elite but how many times have we seen pictures of Kim jong-un with other elite lots of times have you

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with other elite lots of times have you seen one other elite that has a weight problem in North Korea I think we would have seen at least one but we didn't we didn't see anybody was even averagely they're all under 100 percent of them different complications after surgery right that is true we had these two smoker to obviously was exercising yeah all right so that's all I got for today and I will I will talk to you tonight join me tonight I'll see you then