Episode 910 Scott Adams: Have You Been Brainwashed by the Government? Find Out Today!

Date: 2020-04-13 | Duration: 51:28

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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a Content: Did Boris Johnson get treated with hydroxychloroquine? Brainwashed children and reflex thinking as adults Shifting risk to people willing to voluntarily accept that risk Sweden’s non-mitigating policy

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hey everybody come on in here it's time for coffee with Scott Adams and the simultaneous sip yeah it's good it's really good and then we'll talk about fascinating things hey Omar thanks for the super art and all you need to prepare for today's episode is a copper margaret glass of tanker challenger stein in the canteen junker flask a fossil if any can you fill it with your favorite what I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine the end of the day the thing that makes everything better including the pandemic it's called the simultaneous sip go so got a message this morning from Bjorn Lomborg you may know of him as a well known let's say voice I don't know how to characterize

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voice I don't know how to characterize him but he's a well-known voice on climate change and his whose special niche niche is ignition each his special niche is saying that yeah there might be a problem with warming but we're not doing a good job calculating the economics of it so he's focusing on the risk management part of it not whether or not it happened that's you know he's not a scientist and he's got a new book out and I'm gonna offer to interview him but here's my question I'm considering putting buy any any interviews I do maybe putting them behind or putting them on only the the locals app so that I'm also sure I want to
to interviews for my regular periscope so that's the question

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that's the question you could either message me directly or
or tell me in the comments so the no I wouldn't call him a climate skeptic somebody is trying to characterize Bjorn Lomborg as a climate skeptic I wouldn't use that term I think he's more of a claim it analyst or you know he works with economists as well as people who understand the science so it's more about taking a more comprehensive look at the the business part of it I think I would that's how I would characterize them I wouldn't call them as skeptic and the in the classic sense of someone who doesn't think there is a problem all right so if you think you would like to see me doing interviews in my normal morning periscope let me know but I can also do those offline and then they would just be available if you wanted to see them and here's my here's my reasoning on this I think that the the population of

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this I think that the the population of people who watch the morning periscopes and temporarily the evening ones probably you're coming for me right I mean I don't know how to say that with huh that was sounding like too much of a jerk but I'm just trying to be a market analyst here and say all right well if people are coming for one thing why would I change it unless it was better so I guess that's the question would you like it better if I interviewed interesting people all right you know what I'm getting tired of I'm getting tired of the press reporting on stuff without telling us whether hydroxychloroquine is part of the story and it's starting to get really obvious isn't it well looking at your comments it looks like okay yeah it looks like there's a lot of support for doing it offline meaning just put it on the the locals platform oh good I actually

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platform oh good I actually I'm a little bit surprised because I thought there would be more of a mixed response but that's actually my instinct was the same that see that see here's here's my thinking the reason that you watch an interview is for the person who's being interviewed right so there's no reason to assume that people who were coming to my periscopes also want to see whoever the interview person is so it just makes sense that you'd said you'd have those separate all right we'll do that so Boris Johnson he went from being in the ICU to miraculously a lot better did he use the hydroxychloroquine as a throw Meissen and zinc why don't you know that write it or has it been reported as I've been reported and I just missed it does anybody know the

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just missed it does anybody know the answer does board did Boris Johnson take those meds now yeah I'm I think I've seen enough people saying no interviews on this platform so I think I'll take your advice on that and thank you thank you by the way one of the things that's really fun about this experience you know what we're doing right now and I think you feel it as well is that even though it's sort of a mass broadcast platform it's also personal and and sort of immediately responsive to the audience you know what I do is it's almost like it's a live audio out there's a live audience but not in person in the sense that I'm adjusting based on the response all the time so that's kind of makes it more fun because it can evolve in this natural way so
yeah pressure tell us more about hydroxychloroquine so I had thousands of

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hydroxychloroquine so I had thousands of fault people unfollowed me this week and all for the same reasons which is they they were badly brainwashed at some point in their life and don't know it now that's my hypothesis let me let me support that way of thinking with the following anecdote when I was in sixth grade my sixth grade teacher did an exercise with the class that I think changed me forever it didn't do it right away but as I thought about the experience I think it forever changed how I see the world and here was the exercise he asked us each the students to come up one at a time and write on the write on the chalkboard in front of the class something we would be willing to die for to die for I remember we were 12 years old so each of us go up and we're like I

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old so each of us go up and we're like I don't know you know and so it's my turn to go up to write something that I would die for but of course I'm kind of anticipating what the teacher is looking for he was at he was a military veteran you know very patriotic kind of guy and I think i intuited that what he was looking for you know sort of like yeah I'm good with multiple-choice tests because I could tell what they're looking for so I go up there and I think I think he's looking for freedom as the answer so I go up to the board all right you have freedom I'd be willing to die for freedom and of course you know he praised me for my excellent answer but it wasn't so much my answer as knowing that that was the answer he was looking for but I've never forgotten that moment and here's why can a 12 year old make a rational decision about life and death can they is there any

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and death can they is there any twelve-year-old whose brain is developed enough that they can look at the the whole situation and say yeah it does make sense that I would die for this thing the answer is no no you're not you haven't developed adult critical thinking so if you have a firm piñon about something at 12 years old as everybody in the class seemed to because well you know once I put that answer up there everybody's like oh you have freedom we die for that it's obvious when you look back at it that it was just the result of brainwashing now when I say brainwashing I don't mean bad because Society trains its youth to get an outcome this good for society and ideally good for the youth as well so when we're training and educating and you know teaching people their culture and giving them religion and giving them patriotism that's nothing but brainwashing because it happens that children who are far too young to make

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children who are far too young to make any kind of critical decision anyway but really there's somebody saying no to this are there actually people who are disagreeing the children are being brainwashed to be Patriot I don't know if you're a disagree with that thought how could you possibly disagree with that Wow most of the comments are disagreeing that we brainwash children I'm amazed well you're completely wrong so look let's just stay with the assumption you're completely wrong I will I will have defaults my expertise in hypnosis and persuasion to say the the the Pledge of Allegiance is just brainwashing but it's very good brainwashing in other words if you were the boss and you've got to decide okay Scott would you continue doing the Pledge of Allegiance knowing as you're describing it is that it's brainwashing I'd say yeah hell yeah

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it's brainwashing I'd say yeah hell yeah it's really good because there's nothing wrong with patriotism it's a good system the and although I'm not a believer I'm very Pro religion so if children are you know brought into that religious belief well before they have critical thinking most of the time it works out great so don't be thrown by my use of the word brainwashing you could easily just substitute in educated right and then it feels okay it's like oh we educated kids just the way you do it for children is you don't ask them for their opinion you just tell them what to think because that's how you educate kids before they have reason reasonable skills alright so um when it and now these children who were let's say educated so it'll make you feel better they were educated to value patriotism and the other values of our society and that's all good I'm glad

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society and that's all good I'm glad that they were and I'm glad I was I'm glad I was likewise educated but then you grow up and you've got these reflexes that are sort of designed into you so once you do develop the ability to do critical thinking do you use it because it's kind of hard to use your critical thinking if you spent a lifetime with just this reflex training it's like freedom I'll die for it you don't really think that through did you it's just a reflex at this point you know you love your country you know you you believe in your religion it's just a reflex and so I I would say that the thousands of people who wouldn't fall in me I won't to speak for every one of them of course because they're different people but my suspicion is that their early education and reflex thinking was too strong for them to overcome with their sense of reason here's why so the thing

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sense of reason here's why so the thing that people got mad about was that I said what if you had an app in which you could voluntarily voluntarily give up your personal information and maybe you would find some hot spots based on your reporting of your symptoms and people said no way you can't give up your freedom in the form of personal information in this case but you know don't give up freedom but not really any critical look at the whole situation because if you're arguing that you don't want to give up your personal information but you have a driver's license and you have a credit card and you pay taxes and you have a smartphone that that ship sailed you've given up all of your private information if there's some other little minor thing that you voluntarily give up say did I have a cough on Tuesday did I have a coffin Tuesday that's the personal

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coffin Tuesday that's the personal information that you're worrying about giving up it is voluntary really you've given up all of your financial stuff all of your preferences because your financial stuff shows you your preferences they can find out your browser history they can find every conversation you made they know your taxes they know where you been and the thing you're worried about this is some people might self-report that they've got a headache on Tuesday are you kidding me that's the thing you're worried about now the argument is that it's you know sure it's voluntary now but what if the government requires it well what if they do they required a driver's license that didn't kill you they required a a fishing license you survive that right you kids have to go to school if even if they don't want to somehow we survived so routinely the

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somehow we survived so routinely the government makes restrictions on your freedom and if you don't like them the public and you know do something about it later and then and but the most controversial thing I said which there is a some idiots on the conservative tree house decided to take me out of context and misinterpret me so here's what to do to to here's what they interpreted let's see if I can find their quote because oh yeah I can't find it I thought I wrote it down but anyway the thing that they got upset about who wrote a little hippies on me today is that I said that the sewer so here's my tweet the sooner that the public realizes that they will

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that the public realizes that they will have to give up privacy to to beat the coronavirus the sooner we can beat it what the conservative treehouse changed that to is should they actually inserted the word should my statement is an observation I observe that that are concerned about privacy and are reflex for freedom is preventing us from the obvious solutions which would be to know if somebody has it and doesn't have it to check your you know genetics to see if there's anything that makes you especially susceptible you know that sort of thing it may be you know checking your location or something so I'm not saying that those are you know that you have to like those things or even that they would necessarily be effective but I'm pretty sure that the solution to the corona virus will will involve at least a little bit whatever that looks like at least a little bit of giving up your

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least a little bit of giving up your privacy temporarily now you know could the government keep keep doing whatever it's doing forever if you give it up temporarily it's a slippery slope well yeah they could but that's the problem with literally everything in life there's somebody could do the wrong thing any time it's not special there's nothing special about this the government can do bad things and try to get away with it many time they want nothing special all right let's see I I made an observation that I'm sure will turn into nothing but it's kind of interesting so I'll talk about it if there's a if there's a genetic marker for who's more vulnerable and there's some speculation in this scientific and medical community either there's something about your ace two receptors in your lungs and I think you could genetically test

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and I think you could genetically test to see if you have that that characteristic there seems to be something that in a general way it might track with different ethnic groups but that doesn't necessarily mean if you're within that ethnic group that you you have those receptors or don't it's just more correlated as I understand it now that doesn't mean that any of that if it were actually tested in more rigorous fashion would be correlated with outcomes I don't know that that's true but here's what I noticed there did seem to be at least by eyeball but not necessarily if you really dug into it at least by eyeball it seems that people of Germanic background were having better outcomes so for example in Germany has a low death rate Denmark seems to be doing okay and Sweden is not having a good outcome in terms of their death rate their death rate is above 8% which if

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their death rate is above 8% which if you ranked it in the world it wouldn't be very good but they also didn't do much mitigation so the fact that Sweden is higher than Germany's and Denmark makes sense because they didn't do as much to stop it but then you look at the United States and you look at these states within the United States that have the greatest population of Germanic people who settled and they also have for the most part it's not a 100% correlation but for the most part they have also low death rates now the other they have other things in other correlations so it would be hard to tease out what's really the cause what is it for example the states that also have the greatest Germanic populations and the United States also happened to be not very dense and they don't have a lot of international travel so it could easily just be that right it could easily be that it's just a coincidence as soon as you studied at the you know any kind of genetic difference would fall away but there's certainly enough

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fall away but there's certainly enough suspicion that it's worth looking into especially because young healthy people do dive don't you think that if you tested the young healthy people it's less likely that you would find they had some hidden health problem like oh they actually had a hard problem we didn't know about that could be the whole answer actually but the other possibility is that there is some genetic thing and how hard would it be to find it some people in the comments on Twitter said it's really really hard to find a genetic cause for any disease because we've looked for it for other diseases and it's really complicated it's it's not like it's you know one part of your DNA it might be a combination of things etc and I think yeah that that sounds like that's probably true as a general statement but here's my question here's my question if if you have a suspicion that it sees a Stu inhibitors couldn't you just look at that because given that we know it's a

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that because given that we know it's a lung related problem if you just looked at just love related genetic issues that we know are things would we not at least rule it in or rule it out so at the very least I would think you know and I think I've heard that there is some genetic study going on maybe more than one place so I suspect they can't take that long to get that data because it's not the genetic study isn't correct me if I'm wrong about this but if you're looking at the genes for a correlation you don't have to do it I don't think you have to do a controlled study I think you just have to look at the outcomes and then look at the genes and say other people with these genes have better outcomes I think right so we should be able to just take a bunch of blood samples from people who have known outcomes wouldn't we be done in maybe two weeks

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wouldn't we be done in maybe two weeks two weeks if you're working hard couldn't you test enough to know if there's something there so my feeling is that has been about two weeks since I first heard that somebody I don't know who was going to start looking into that so any day now I'm expecting that we're going to find out if that's a thing and maybe that gives us a little more information for battling this thing now of course the things you have to watch out for is that pollution is correlated we found that out for sure obviously population density whether there's mass transit how much they try to mitigate when they got it do they have alidade elevators is an international hub you know sir do they have a lot of unhealthy people do the old people live with the young people in this town so you have lots of different factors but maybe we could tease them if there's a genetic all right so I'm I'm moving closer to the opinion I don't

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moving closer to the opinion I don't have any firm opinion yet about what the exact right go back to work strategy would be so anybody who is hating me for suggesting ideas is not really understanding that I'm not promoting ideas I'm just brainstorming right I'm just I'm surfacing ideas see how people react if the way people react is no I will not give up my privacy it doesn't matter if it's rational or not if it turns out that you can't convince people they should give up a trivial bit of privacy such as did you off on Tuesday you know if that's a problem and people can't be talked out of it well that that informs your policy pop the possibilities you know because you have to deal with the whole person the rational part that's small and the irrational part that's gigantic so of course since you need compliance you're gonna have to get people on board but I'm moving closer to this opinion so

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I'm moving closer to this opinion so this is an uninformed opinion you can just see it in process it goes like this the big problem about sending some people back to work is not their risk in other words we do live in a country in which we we sort of generally agree that if an individual has an opportunity to take a risk that only affects them we're gonna be a little flexible about that because that that is just you know your your human freedom to take the risks that make sense for you but we get a little prickly as a society or any society if your personal risks cost someone else money so if the thing you're doing is gonna raise my taxes or raise my health care or make me pay for more police force or whatever if it's gonna affect me you know then I want to vote on that now here's where I'm governing this we have situations in society where people have different risk levels and we compensate from that take

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levels and we compensate from that take car insurance the people who have the highest risk pay the most car insurance and we mostly are okay with that even though it seems to be terribly unfair you know compared to everything else we do in life because you know when I was a young man I was in the category of risky drivers but I wasn't personally risky because I didn't take you know I didn't drive especially fast I had good reflexes you know you could do the checklist so I just wasn't a risky personality but I was still in that category and I was still I complained about it constantly but I'm not going to you know start a revolution over it because there is a credible reason that it's done and the reason is you kind of do want to move the risk as much as you can to the people who are the risky people this society says that feels better feels more fair we don't have to

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better feels more fair we don't have to do it but if that's the only way the society can say yeah I hate it but I get why you're doing it sometimes that's the best you can do and so here's my question is there a way that the people who want to take on the personal risk of going back to work is there a way that we can let them do that but also somehow wolof that risk so they're they're the only ones that take it now the obvious answer that is yeah because the people at risk can most in most cases they can choose to sequester themselves so severely that they're really not taking the same risk so that's one way that the risky people can go to work grandma cand you know lock herself in a room for three months if she chooses she doesn't have to but she could but could we go further than that could we because here's my concern and it's not the only concern but you know as we're working through the options some things

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working through the options some things start to rise up as more important than others I don't want my healthcare service to be unavailable to me because someone else decided that their risk reward was sufficient for them to go back to work in other words other people's choice about risk will fairly immediately impact me or could could in terms of my healthcare availability etc and that's very important so is there a way that you could wall off the the healthcare burden so that people who do want to take that risk would be I'll just throw this out as a possibility you could say yes if you get the coronavirus you can go to this hospital but not any of the other ones in your area so just throw again an idea here so you'd have one hospital you know it would be would not be over capacity when you start but you'd say that people want to go back

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you'd say that people want to go back alright if you get trouble the only hospital that's going to take you is the one we've designated and if you're going back to work causes a lot of you to be dying well you might have to be waiting in line and dying on the sidewalk because it's just gonna be this one hospital everybody who decided not to go back to work and just wanted to sequester there they're gonna get you know these other hospitals so they can get their operations and their heart surgeries and everything else now I'm not saying that's the perfect answer I'm giving you an example of how you could creatively shift the risk from the people who say that's not a risk I want to take to the people who quite reasonably say I will take that risk you know I'm an American freedom I take that risk can you wall it off and just you know find a way to limit it now you could do it with financially that would be another way you could just say you can go back to work but given that there's going to be

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work but given that there's going to be such a burden to the healthcare system would you mind those of you go back to work let's say pay 10% extra on your healthcare for six months yeah you can go back to work we're just going to move the the burden of the the risk so that you're the ones taking it and the ones who don't want to take the risk don't have to now again I'm not saying that's the answer what I'm saying you have the freedom to not earn money correct yeah everybody wouldn't be weighing their physical risk with their economic risk and everything else but I'm I'm I have empathy for the the freedom-loving people who say you know let us decide if we want to take that risk that's a strong that's a strong argument but I think we could tweak it so that the risk is moved to the people who who accept it voluntarily and then I think society

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voluntarily and then I think society would just be more comfortable with that because all of our solutions are going to be suboptimal you want the one that's at least at least a little bit comfortable let's say why is it that the Swedes so I've got lots of questions on comparable countries I tweeted out I think it was real clear politics had an excellent list that looks like it's updated all the time and it's a really good breakdown of the deaths raw numbers and also deaths per capital which is what I was looking for per capita deaths per capita for each country so you could rank them and see if there's anything about them that they can learn now since all the countries are handling things differently it's kind of hard just to eyeball it but when you do eyeball out you see some of the correlations one is the Germanic countries seem to be doing well so you know Germany Austria has I forgot about in Austria Austria

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has I forgot about in Austria Austria has a super low low death rate and so does Germany so it could be that there are some countries they have more hydroxyl chloroquine maybe the ones that you have a lot so there might be other correlations there but here's the question that jumped out to me so the Swedes famously did not do aggressive government-mandated you know lock down apparently a number of citizens are taking it upon themselves to work in a little more not commute or keep their kids home from school but in general the Swedes did not take the the heavy-handed government boot process but here's the data I don't know what's happening in their hospitals so I can see the death rate and I can see the infection rate and that's good that gives me a little bit of visibility but the Swedes are deciding - well let me put it this way why don't I know in this if the Swedish

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why don't I know in this if the Swedish hospitals are overrun already why don't I know that doesn't that come down to like the most important thing because if Sweden is saying now we'll just play it by ear and their hospitals are not overrun that's kind of a really important fact isn't it like really really important somebody says 40 percent of Swedes work from home I think I need a fact check on that I wouldn't doubt it I mean it could be so and also there's some there's some evidence that the Swedes are not doing as much testing so it's possible that their infection rate is higher than reported but all of that would still end up in hospital deaths so the key thing is what's going on in the hospitals in Sweden and why are they not worried that the hospitals are overrun and again what

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the hospitals are overrun and again what question does the press not tell us hydroxychloroquine is Sweden using a lot of it are all the countries that are having a good outcome Germany Austria do they have a lot of hydroxychloroquine now it could be that it's not important but I think I'd like that reported too so every time we see in fact here's what I'd like to see I would like to see the the the same chart that RealClearPolitics has that shows the death rates by country per capita but there should also be a column that says whether you know let's just say high medium and low usage of hydroxychloroquine because it'd be hard to get you know too much specifics on that but you could probably rate to the countries in terms of whether they're being aggressive and giving it to people early or they're playing it by ear or they just don't have any you know those three cases thought is there a

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three cases thought is there a correlation I mean by now we should see it in the death rates right well what would you what would you think was true if Germany and Ireland and Austria who all have unusually low death rates what would you think was true if they also had high use of hydroxychloroquine I mean that would tell you something right all right every day on Twitter people are still asking me what makes this virus special now how do you not know that by now right how could you have gotten this far in the world and this far into the year and not know that this virus is not like the other ones how do you not know that I mean that's not even a criticism I'm just curious like how do you even know that at the very least how do you not

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that at the very least how do you not know that it's having an impact on hospitals is that is that a fact that nobody mentioned I don't know it's puzzling all right let's see so yeah all the people who or don't want the government to collect their private information the reason that I say it's probably a reflex that they say that is I don't think they think through that the government has all their personal information and if the government has any reason to look into you they just file some paperwork with the courts and they've got all your information everything that you're following everything else so your private information that was gone a long time ago all right it looks like I've hit my high points here let me just make sure oh here's an idea that was

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sure oh here's an idea that was suggested by a dentist so as you know dentists have you know medical training of a special sort and they're used to dealing with infected people you know the dentist's office you know worked right through the the AIDS epidemic and still do so dentists are very experienced in using PPE and protecting themselves etc and here was the idea since dentists can't really do their work and at the moment because they're closed with everybody else so there's densest suggests letting dentist offices test their patients and I thought that probably makes sense I'll bet a dentist would be perfectly qualified you know with a little bit of instruction that it had to work a test and make sure that you know the samples don't get spilled on everybody and then they could also test people and if you have the kind of test where you get a reaction fairly quickly you know the tests that are you know

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you know the tests that are you know five to fifteen minutes are even faster if the dentist says all right you're good 15 minutes after you after the sample is taken then the dentist can do the dental work so basically you test them in the the waiting area and if they testified you take them in the back and you do your work and I thought good idea so that would suggest that maybe some of the higher priority places for testing equipment might be dentists offices because I can't imagine too many dentists who would say no to that right because their offices are closed unless they figure out was some way to you know some way past it and and given that most of them would jump in and help and maybe people would pay for the tests as well as the the dentistry why not seems like a good idea so I was asked on Twitter to boost that idea so that's what I'm doing boosted it alright I think that's about

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boosted it alright I think that's about it for today so Oh somebody says that's a brilliant idea well I wish I had been my idea it is a brilliant idea I think it wasn't mine but it's a good one they give infections I suppose alright I'm just gonna look at some of your comments is there anything that I said today that is bugging you especially Scott's health that app tells the feds you missed a dose and you get cops at your door to force some pills you know the the slippery slope people are the least rational among us are you sticking with your five thousand net deaths I am yes I am sticking with it which does not mean that therefore it'll be accurate but I am sticking with it as being closer than any other public forecast so

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closer than any other public forecast so that doesn't mean a right we'll find out now for those of you who knew when I say net we know we're saving tens of thousands of lives just by having the economy shut down because we're not having the same kinds of traffic accidents you'd have to add back in and the extra suicides and domestic murders I guess so you'd have to include everything plusses and minuses but I think if you do that we might end up closer to 5,000 Beth's which would be a gross of maybe 50,000 so somewhere around 50,000 gross deaths because I'm thinking that the estimate of 60,000 will probably come down again but let's say 650 thousand deaths you're probably going to subtract down 40,000 people are you saved it's gonna be around 10,000 I asked him in a 5,000 would be the closest one in the country I think Scott is the idea that freedom is valuable for its own sake only the result of brainwashing yes yes

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only the result of brainwashing yes yes it is that is correct their freedom being valuable for its own sake is a ridiculous idea and you would only have that if you were brainwashed if you're not brainwashed you'd say well freedom is one variable let me look at my other variables okay I'll balance of all and you know sometimes I'll give a little bit of freedom up that'll get a big gain you know give a little bit of freedom up but at least you know I got my operation so no there's if somebody thinks that freedom is just sort of a universal good and you don't have to ask any other questions that would be brainwashing absolutely does the White House monitor my ideas well I don't know what monitor means I will tell you that my followers on periscope and on Twitter include lots of people in lots of places

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include lots of people in lots of places from from Congress to White House so I I do know from confirmation from various people that I have high visibility so a lot of people are seeing my ideas I just don't know who and when can I try to get Trump on periscope with you yes yes I will do that I will try to get Trump on periscope I think we have to get closer to the election but there's not a zero chance that I could get him I don't think the odds are good you know I think the odds of you know getting Trump to do a two-minute you know connection on periscope with me or you know low odds are low but you know probably 200,000 people would see it you know double my normal traffic if if he was on there and having 200,000 people hear your message and in an election

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hear your message and in an election season it's not a terribly use of time and obviously I would be a you know an interesting interview let's say
brainwashing or setting the social standards same thing somebody says you constantly selling past the sale it's your main way well people who know persuasion do that just automatically so your right eye is Chris Cuomo on the Trump pills well my same complaint why don't you know that don't you think that CNN should report whether or not Chris Cuomo was taking the Trump pills I guess George Stephanopoulos and his wife also tested positive wouldn't don't you think ABC and they would want to tell you if they used the the Trump pills you know the hydroxychloroquine anything more in

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the hydroxychloroquine anything more in your prediction from yesterday regarding a big news this week did I say it would be this week I don't know if the news will be this week but there's some big news coming but no update on that oh if somebody says start with Don jr. yeah I would probably would have a relatively greater odds that he would say yes that's a good idea I'll try that actually do you believe if we were being told all the government knows about this pandemic no I don't not that that's necessarily bad
see he's doing hundreds of calls of the day yeah you know the president talks to a lot of people during the day so who knows interview Chris Cuomo I would love to do that I doubt you'd say yes but he

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to do that I doubt you'd say yes but he would be a great interview who did he discuss doctors across state borders with and telemedicine all right in the case of telemedicine I did make a direct contact with a staff member of Congress who did confirm that the idea was immediately given to the task force and also confirmed that it got a positive response as soon as there now that's very different from saying that that my suggestion for telehealth you know allowing people to do it across state boundaries it's very different from to say that I suggested it than it is to say that's why they did it and that would be a big leap because the reason I suggested it is that was obvious all right so if you suggest an idea that smart people who are working on a problem should have seen themselves chances are they did so I can't make any

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chances are they did so I can't make any assumption about anything I did that you know ultimately change the policy decisions but I do think it's generally productive that if you see something that could be a gap into thinking that you're you're trying to fill it in you just check and make sure they thought of it I mean that has value you just don't know when it has a lot of value when should we consider the feet toll a year from now to naught that is do you read the Babylon be at Solaris they're great do you agree with the Patriot Act you know I've never spent a lot of time looking into it when well leader be bold enough to set a date I think that's coming a few weeks which country most hack our election we already know that that's China by far they're already working hard apparently when will Joe Biden drop out I don't know that it'll

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Biden drop out I don't know that it'll drop out you know he might he might turn things over to a vice president candidate and or vice president if he got elected but I don't it's starting to look like he's not going to drop out it looks like the play is you know for the important Democrats to make sure that they've got their vice president in place of the cabinet and stuff
why can't you pronounce the Trump pill properly yet hydroxychloroquine azithromycin know as in through bison and zinc takes practice I'm not there yet let's say looking at your questions is is foul she off the reservation you know I can't I can't find myself getting interested in the Trump vs. ouchy stuff because that feels artificial doesn't it like do you see anything and the way

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like do you see anything and the way that foul Qi talks in public that would lead you to believe that or Trump that would lead you to believe that when the two of them are in a room talking about stuff that they have any problem I'll feel like it it feels like they're working together just fine that doesn't mean they have to agree on it everything yeah the foul she's not going to get fired do you think Mark Cuban will be on the back to work task force yeah let's see that's a good question would Mark Cuban be on I'm gonna say no but not because he wouldn't be great to be on it and I think since I can't read his mind I'm just guessing right so so mark can speak for himself but just guessing I believe that both he and I have a similar situation in way we probably could give all the input we

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we probably could give all the input we want and it would get to the right place so if you could make all the input you want and it can get to the right place you can do it publicly you can send messages to people you know on the committee etc maybe you don't have to attend the meetings right because I'm not sure I have much to add if I'm one of 25 people around a big table listening to people blather about statistics I don't know if I have anything to add but in my special case maybe I can suggest ideas that people haven't thought of suggest models of you know how to do it in a staged way and maybe something I suggest you know trigger somebody to think of a better version of that so that's about all I can do I don't have you know I don't have the statistics or the medical background or I'm not going to do a deep economic model so the total amount that I could add to the process I could probably do from the outside and Mark Cuban might and again I'm not speaking for him and won't imagine that I can read his mind

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won't imagine that I can read his mind but he has a similar set up to me which is if if he wants the task force to hear something he could do it easily
let's see who will run the task force Navarro baby doesn't seem like Navarro would be about the right person to do that do you think human will run for president this time I just saw an interview with him where it didn't sound like it I think he was sort of keeping the option open which is just smart but it didn't sound like he had the fire in his belly and I think you'd have to have the fire in your belly by now it's just sort of too late Cuban said he would do it I think he would do it under exactly the right conditions which don't exist so so I don't know that that's pretty hypothetical I mean I would do it under

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hypothetical I mean I would do it under exactly the right conditions but if he asked me if I if I'm running for president the answer's no but under exactly the right conditions so actually I had offered myself as the emergency backup in case case trump decides to retire in the next few months yeah you just just vote for me you know I'll just appoint some smart people to take care of stuff as your emergency backup so you don't have to but I think I would have to have done some paperwork by now so I can't really be I don't think I can really be in it unless I think you have to do the paperwork to be on the party but do you have to do the paperwork to be in the independent candidate probably yes you have to get on the ballot yeah so I think it's too late anyway that's all for now talk to you later