Episode 893 Scott Adams: Sip Time. Get in Here.

Date: 2020-04-05 | Duration: 45:57

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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a Content: A back-to-work prediction Back to work models, considerations and decisions Digital pressers suggestion by John Nolte, Breitbart Experts at spotting BS from other experts President Trump’s skill at provoking the enemy press

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hey everybody come on in it's only been 12 hours since you saw me last 11:00 if you really think about it and I think it's time for more of this there's a reason you come here it's because it's so darn good get your day kicked off in just the right way and might I add not many commercials have you tried watching anything that has commercials lately we'll talk about that in a minute but first first let's do the important stuff first and in order to be prepared for the important stuff all you need is a cup of mugged or a glass a tanker chalices tie the canteen drugged a flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that dopamine heaven in the day the thing that makes everything better including your pandemics it's called the simultaneous it happens now go hmm just as good as I

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it happens now go hmm just as good as I thought it would be never disappointed speaking of attention spans have you tried to watch anything in the form of entertainment lately it's really hard for example I've had this experience recently and maybe you've had it too all hear of a movie and I'll say I got some free time because this quarantine situation I'm gonna watch me a movie and then this this happens all right where will i watch the movie will it be on a device if it is I've got to find a device I might have to plug it in and I've got to find which device already has the app on it that I want to stream the service some of my devices have different apps so I sort that out and then it needs to be charged so I'm going to find my charger I find my charger and then I need my headphones but my headphones aren't charged so I've gotta charge my headphones so I'm 20 minutes into it and

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headphones so I'm 20 minutes into it and all I've done is figure out which device I'm gonna watch let's say I've decided don't watch it on the television so I go on the television and I say um which streaming service is that because I got the Xfinity but I got less Netflix it might be on Amazon is it on Hulu and then I started looking for it then I can't find it and then it's like oh it's on it's on the other service so I go to the other service and for some reason the password doesn't work now I have to recover a password but I'm watching television so I have to go get a device to recover the password and then I start you know looking for things and it takes forever and then I start it I tried to watch this Tiger King thing so you know I go through the process and it's 30 minutes in and I haven't watched anything yet 30

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in and I haven't watched anything yet 30 minutes of work and I have no entertainment all I've done is prepare myself to maybe get entertained 30 minutes later and do you know what happens after 30 minutes of anything doesn't matter what I'm doing getting ready to watch a movie no matter what it is do you know what happens after 30 minutes I bail out cuz 30 minutes is way too long to spend on anything you know our attention spans have have shrunk so much that I can't spend half an hour just deciding what movie to watch it's way too hard so I find that I watch very little because the set-up time takes too long have you tried to watch a say an HBO show lately that if you try to watch it in real time and it's not recorded and you turn it on and that that long HBO introduction comes on it's like there's an orchestra music and there's

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there's an orchestra music and there's you know there's a visuals and graphics and everything and you just sit there thinking I really just wanted to watch the content okay I'm not really getting anything out of the twenty minutes I have to watch the opening credits and music I'm very impressed with it all you did a good job I'll watch it once I'll watch it once but if it's a series I can't watch that twice so my observation is that things like books and movies could be largely obsolete within just a few years not because they changed well they did they're harder now because they're more levels and options and things just to do a simple thing but I think our attention spans were way too short now I also tried to watch I tried to do something last night that I advised you not to do and I reminded myself why you should not do it so it's I don't 9:00 o'clock at night last night at a long day I started

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night last night at a long day I started to work it out of two or three in the morning which is not unusual when I when I control my own hours and so by nine o'clock at nighttime I'm ready to go down but I'm thinking yeah I think I'll try to watch something so I call up you know it doesn't matter what show I try to watch you know movie a little bit before I drift off to sleep now I tell you'd never do that because you don't want to associate your you're sleeping routine and being in bed with anything entertaining unless it's you know with your partner because you don't want the bed to be associated with excitement and entertainment you want to be associated with sleep as much as possible so I violated my own rule to try to watch a movie and I think I got 60 seconds into it and I could tell my entire body was on fire like with stress because the whole point of a movie unless it's a comedy and even comedies have this problem at

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and even comedies have this problem at least by the third act the point of a movie is watching somebody who's got a big problem and then they try to solve it but until they solve it they're in danger things are happening to them they're getting it killed they're losing the money they lose their love life and and I'm thinking why in the world that might subject myself to this I get that there's a payoff later and I'll feel good when they when the hero you know survives but I've got to watch what 2 full hours of bad news to get to that little good feeling that isn't gonna last that long anyway there's no way that payoff makes sense there's just no way so I bailed out and watched 10 minutes of a movie and I wish I'd watch the row of it so take my advice don't follow my don't follow what I do all right here's the thought experiment for you now don't don't read too much into the thought experiment because I'll

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the thought experiment because I'll acknowledge in advance there's not a real-world thing you couldn't actually do it and it doesn't apply directly to the point I'm gonna make but it's still educational you know it'll help you understand your world a little bit better it's not the answer but it'll give you a little context and it goes like this imagine that instead of the coronavirus let's say there had been no coronavirus and instead the government of this country and other countries too has simply stated a year ago that there will be a two-month forced to vacation for everybody except essential services they said it's going to be it's going to be March and April it'll be 2 months everybody has to stay home but can't even go on vacation what would happen to the economy once we got back would it be a depression if it were planned it was all planned would you come back to a depression because you had a two-month pause you see your intuition is kicking

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pause you see your intuition is kicking in right now and you're saying to yourself I don't think it would be because everybody would just go back to work and the worst-case scenario is that you as long as everybody ate you know if they had enough to eat for two months the worst case scenario is that people just go back to work they got a little depth that they wish they didn't have maybe some of it's free however you work that out but we kind of fairly quickly get back to work maybe a year later you'd probably be back to steam you know one year I think now that's not exactly like this situation right because in this situation there are entire industries that are just going to be decimated and so that's different so servers for example don't get to just go back to work they might not have a job I don't get to go back to work to what my old career was because that all thinks I think 75% of newspapers will be out of business in a few months so so my career will change too so my my thought

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career will change too so my my thought experiment is not like the coronavirus thing because we didn't prepare for it in that same way and we can't just walk right back into our old jobs but here's the thing a lot of us can well a lot of people can they could just walk back into their job like they took a two-month vacation so my prediction is that we'll get back to good business faster than a lot of experts are going to predict and I always make my predictions based on the thing that you don't see coming in other words I'm not straight lining it if I were to straight line my prediction and say based on what we know now and if we didn't learn anything new it would look pretty bad that's true but all of these predictions have the same problem which is there are all kinds of things you didn't see what happened surprisingly happened a lot of has to do with innovation and people

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has to do with innovation and people inventing ways to solve things for example I just said that restaurants couldn't possibly open up is that true I mean is it is it true that there's no way a restaurant can open up let's say in a month or so when when other people can go back to work because it would be people in a tight space I don't know I think that's exactly the sort of thing that could end up changing so I said before this since the warm weather is coming anyway could the local town say okay okay it's emergency so we're going to loosen up on some of our restaurant restrictions and you can put your tables outdoors you can put your tables at a parking lot you can take your dog to eat as long as it's outdoors will even put tables right now into the street and maybe close off some blocks so the restaurants can do that you know and you know just park somewhere else so if you don't assume that people will figure out how to

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that people will figure out how to adjust then yeah it's a depression yeah if nobody could figure out how to adjust were in trouble but that's not the world you live in and the real world people will make massive flexible adjustments they'll be trying everything and people will be watching what other people try they'll say oh that looks like a good idea so it's thoroughly unpredictable but I always err on the side of saying I think it'll be better than the worst-case like a lot better than the worst-case and I'm still gonna stick with that doesn't mean you'll be good but much much better than the worst case I have an ongoing sort of Twitter conversation with Adam Townsend who's now I think my favorite person to disagree with it's it's annoying to disagree with people who are down but know we have good reasons but I find it kind of exciting to disagree with people who I think

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to disagree with people who I think really know what they're talking about and are smart because it means I might learn something because whatever I'm thinking somebody's smart and well-informed is thinking something different I better find out what that is right so with with all due respect to Adam Townsend we have a difference of opinion and it goes like this and I hate trying to characterize somebody else's opinion because you never get it exactly the way they would say it so I'm gonna say so so I'm gonna say I think this is close but if it's wrong I apologize and the idea is that closing down the economy was at least potentially unwise and Adam offered this clarification when I questioned it on Twitter today and this is what he said he said I never argued against pandemic prophylactic response so he never you never argued that we shouldn't close

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never argued that we shouldn't close things down and then he goes on he said I argued lack of economic models commensurate with trillions of dollars have shut down and that we've seen imperfect data extrapolated to where a show disaster by failing to count all of this and exaggerating all that so that if I can summarize that he's saying that the data that we're using to make these decisions is terribly flawed I think we all agree with that right the data is terribly flawed and then he points out that there's no economic model this sort of captures all the badness and goodness of closing down the economy what we have instead is just a sort of a scientific health model so we have plenty of models to show how many people die you know whether without social distancing etc but Adam correctly points out that we don't have any kind of an economic model that tells you what happens if you close

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that tells you what happens if you close stuff down now here's where Adam and I disagree and I don't think we're gonna be able to close the distance on this disagreement and it goes like this there's no way to make an economic model that would capture this can't be done now you could build one and you could tell the public you don't want and you could get people to believe it but it wouldn't be real the complexity of this is way beyond way beyond what anybody could reasonably model it's way beyond it's not even close to something that you know the smartest person in the world with all of these with all the best resources could even get close to it would just be it would just be a guess on a spreadsheet basically it would be a just a guess so the thing that Adam wants I want to I would love a credible economic model so we could say well if you go this way you get this if you go this way you get that but it's not possible it's it's

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that but it's not possible it's it's well beyond it's not even close to possible it's it's in a different zip code with possible if it were just hard I'd say well it's a crisis I don't care how hard it is put a team together get the best people in the world give them everything they need I don't care how hard it is make it work but it's not hard it's actually just not possible now I come at this from years of experience doing financial modeling so it's what I did in my day job I've gotten you know you hear it too much I've got a degree in economics of an MBA so I know a little bit of what I'm talking about I did it professionally you know in a smaller scale in my case I was projecting what would happen to a company under different economic scenarios so this would be much harder because the economy has got far more variables and just that that's the big problem way too many variables so here's

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problem way too many variables so here's where Adam and I disagree I don't think that there was an option of having good data and I don't think there was an option or even good enough because I'm totally in favor of using you know directionally accurate data so if if all of your guesses still point in the same direction it's still useful that you study that if if you study it and you know sometimes it points in different directions you've got another problem so here's what I think I think the whole question of you know closing the economy down and how long you keep how long you close it and how you open it up and the trade-off with the the deaths and the politics of it I don't think you can be modelled not even close and it's one of those cases where real leadership matters that is somebody's going to have to peer into this fog of uncertainty and here's what you don't get to say hey I wish there were no fog

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wish there were no fog well you can wish it we all wish that but it's not real and if you wait there's not going to be less fog I mean maybe in trivial ways but you're still not going to know so that the real leadership question is how do you make one of the most important decisions in the history of humankind and I think this is one of those you know whatever decision Trump comes up with ultimately about going back to work will be one of the biggest decisions in all of humanity it's true you know for a single decision there are lots of things more important maybe but there was lots of people making lots of decisions I don't know if we've ever seen one person make a decision with this weight obviously experts will will help so in a situation where you can't have a model that tells you what to do there's extreme uncertainty it's life and death it's I mean it's the biggest stakes you could

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mean it's the biggest stakes you could possibly have what do you do so how do you make a decision well I'll give you some hints the first thing you do is look for ways you could test it small ever hear me say that before so for example in this case instead of saying let's send everybody back to work under these criteria you could say how about this week we send everybody in toledo back to work and we'll ask you not to do any traveling because we just want to see what toledo looks like let's just run that for a week just see what it looks like maybe we might have to run it for two weeks for infected people to start showing up but if you can test it and I'm not sure it's practical but it feels like it might be a little bit if you could test this somewhere go ahead and test it then you don't have to wonder which way to go so just just test it the other thing is you can decide who takes the hint for example we could say we're

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the hint for example we could say we're gonna close the economy and if you can't eat well that's on you then that would put the heat all on people who didn't have money and that would be his own set of problems politically morally and everything else so you can make decisions based on who gets hurt the most even if you don't know how it all plays out so for example the government test seems to have made the decision that it will put pressure on the wrench basically because it's the rich who ultimately will pay any debt that we run up it's the rich were being asked to retain employees it's the the rich who are gonna lose you know half of their net worth they're still gonna be rich so you don't feel bad about it but it looks like the government is putting the so much as they can shifting it toward the rich shifting it toward banks now that would be a good decision even if you don't know how everything plays out it still makes more sense to put your

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it still makes more sense to put your risk in the banks now you say to yourself oh my god you don't want to put risk in the banks because if the banks fail it's all done but I would suggest flip that around because if the banks fail it's the end of everything I mean really it would be that's why they won't fail because the government will put a hundred percent effort into making sure the banks don't fail we've already seen them do that because that's so important so if you sort of move your let's say the risk over to the banks you've also moved it to the place where there will be most attention to solving it whereas if you said now let the poor people working out they'll find food somehow a lot of poor people are not going to work it out and they're going to suffer so the closest you can get is some informed guesses some feelings about you have to make some assumptions without data about let's say the

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without data about let's say the attitude and morale of the country because you can't make a smart decision that the public hates so much that it blows the politics of work right wouldn't it wouldn't help to do the right thing if the public was sure it was the wrong thing so you've got you know you've got the persuasion the politics the the guessing about what the the economics would be shifting the weight on to who can handle the pressure the most and then you just got a guess now you also have to guess in the way ideally that you could easily reverse so you know if you make a decision that you can pull back as soon as you find out it's a mistake well that helps a little bit so here's what I think since the medical experts are saying that an extra month or whatever it's going to Antony would make a really big difference but if I were modeling the economy I'd say to myself I'm not sure one month would make that much

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one month would make that much difference compared to the month we already left I don't know if it's the extra month you know if you said it's an extra six months I'd say oh that's too long but an extra month I don't know I don't know if that'll actually make a difference so my intuition would be to keep things locked down at least for a few weeks and then start phasing people in in a way that ideally if you have enough test kits you can measure whether you're doing it correctly and adjust but I would certainly be sending some low-risk people back to work pretty quickly or at least I have a plan for doing it I think I don't know his first as a nick nolte at rights for Breitbart tweeted why doesn't Trump hold a digital presser where he answers questions from people outside the media groupthink and then he names me so as a person who might ask a question of the president

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might ask a question of the president who's not in the the press room and I thought that's a really good idea because the questions that the press are asking are just bad questions or they Oh John Milty John Nolte who writes for Breitbart not Nick Nolte it was the actor thank you for that correction I looked at his profile but he doesn't list his first name on his profile so I was guessing I think that's a really good idea because the press are trying to ask gotcha questions and the public wouldn't even think in those terms you know if I if I thought of a question to ask the president it wouldn't even occur to me to ask it as a gotcha question I don't care about that as much I just want to know the answer so that's a good question I'd like to see that implemented at least a little bit let's see what else

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least a little bit let's see what else we got going on here checking my notes did you see the pet tweet by Eric Erickson so Eric Erickson a well-known conservative type he tweeted a picture in which he was talking in a complimentary way about two brothers who went to school with his kids and the two brothers in the neighborhood are making and selling something for $20 apiece and then they're taking that money and they're buying snacks for area hospital break rooms I thought wow that's great that's tremendous his kids got a little business they're selling some kind of item and then and then they're taking their money to the hospitals that's all great until you see the picture of the item in which Eric says that he added lights to it so the item was a across a

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lights to it so the item was a across a wooden cross and I guess the kids were making wooden crosses and selling them to people that they could put it in the yard and then Eric apparently according to his tweet he decided that you know maybe you could see them better at night so he added white lights in a fairly dense pattern and then took a picture of it at night to show how good it looked with the white lights and the dense pattern around the cross that's in his neighbor's lawn you probably see where I'm going with this don't you because it looks like a digital version of the KKK burning across the neighbor's lawn now I only know of this story because Eric Erickson was trending and I click on all the famous people were trending to see if they got coronavirus I mean I hate that I do that but I do and he doesn't have coronavirus as far as we know but he's the only

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as far as we know but he's the only person who didn't recognize that adding a burning cross to the neighbor's lawn might not come across as the charitable act that he had hoped now of course they're not burning there they're lit with these white lights but when you take a picture of something that's tightly lit at night you know what it look like all right I'm starting to get the the kind of critic that disappeared for a while I'm starting to wonder if the trolls came back I told you that for a while my critics just disappeared there were there were a few weeks where I didn't get any of the like really horrible trolls the ones that say things that make your head explode because they're so stupid they just all disappeared for a few weeks but they just started creeping back and I don't know if it's because they're paid trolls or or if they you know the crisis made them go away and act good for a while I

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them go away and act good for a while I don't know but they came back one of the things that they seem to be pointing out is that my opinion should be ignored because I'm a cartoonist I did a long tweets right in which I compared my predictions on the coronavirus to the experts you've already heard that so you know that the experts were not bathing themselves in glory but there were a number of us who are not experts on these topics who have been right consistently from the beginning now and I would like to add this to the conversation so I will never tell you to ignore the experts because that would be dumb all right so I'm never gonna say ignore experts in some kind of like general statement not on any topic you should never ignore the experts which is different from saying the experts are always right what I would like to add to the conversation is this fact there are also experts as spotting

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fact there are also experts as spotting from other experts now that's not a college degree and it's not a job title you know there's nobody whose job title is I spot from other experts but nonetheless there are people who have such a clear track record of doing it in public that you would have to say they're experts I mean at some point you just say okay you just keep doing this over and over again let's call you an expert for example I like to use Mike Serna my standard of example of a lot of things partly because most of you are aware of him probably because he he stands apart from the crowd in so many ways that he just makes a good example for lots of stuff but Mike Mike Tsarevich has a very long track record that you could check for yourself and it's all public of recognizing really early I would say he's an expert same with some other names that I've you know I mentioned Univ all

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that I've you know I mentioned Univ all Balaji speed of awesome Greg Gutfeld you know Joel Pollak there are other people that you can watch and you can see that they also have a track record of being able to spot expert I think I'm one too and I would say that my skill stack is what allows me to have that visibility I've simply been around lots of experts were right and wrong in lots of different fields I'm a certain age so I've seen enough event I've got a you know I've got a background in persuasion and economics so I can I could just look through more windows and spot you'd be yes a little bit yeah Jack pasaba I should have mentioned him on my list of people who see things early so I just put that out into the world as there are experts and they should be listened to that doesn't mean they're right you should always listen to the people who are experts at

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are experts at spotting from other experts if you've listened to both the the spotters and the experts well then maybe you have enough to form your own opinion right or wrong all right so the president I said this last night but it's so much fun that I have to say it again the president loves provocation especially in its the press I think we all know that he likes provoking the enemy press because it always works for him whenever he promotes that provokes them it seems to turn out good for him in the long run and his latest thing is and I know he knows he's doing it all right there's no I can't read his mind but I think you'll agree he knows he's doing this this isn't this is not accidental he's over selling a little bit at least in his choice of words and you know the amount

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choice of words and you know the amount he talks about it etc the potential for the hydroxychloroquine now if you're new to the topic it hasn't been verified by you know good robust studies but there's lots of anecdotal evidence that it's safe enough and probably useful so we don't know but maybe it's useful and the president is sort of mentioning it now he also says the same thing I did which is there's not proven but he goes a little bit further and saying that he's optimistic about it he thinks it could be a game-changer so even though he's very careful to say it's not scientifically proven the other words he uses makes people believe that he doesn't care about that it it makes it makes people think he doesn't care if it's scientifically proven or not that scientifically illiterate guy he just

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scientifically illiterate guy he just wants us to use this untested drug but of course it's not about that he's not giving you medical advice he's doing a risk assessment using information that the professionals have provided so he looks at their input they says well on a risk/reward basis we don't know if it works or not but we do know it's been used for a long time for other stuff and we know that for short-term usage even the experts say that the you know the downside is probably vanishingly small for short-term usage so that's just a risk/reward assessment is the president the right qualifications to make a risk management judgment which takes into effect he ever takes into account the different opinions of different experts and I would say yeah yeah that's exactly his skill remember Trump was a real estate developer how many of the individual

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developer how many of the individual skills of all the people involved in that did Trump to himself have was he a trained architect no you know was he you know was he the guy who knew how to put up drywall well he might know how to put up drywall but but the point is that the the contractor and lots of subcontractors a lot of skills there and Trump was not the expert on all of their expertise he was simply a guy who could pick out who was lying and biessing so you need know when he needs a new expert or a second opinion and he was gonna incorporating all this expert opinion into one executive decision so all four all the critics who are saying you don't know what you're talking about because you're a cartoonist they're the dumbest people on the internet today because first of all how did you not notice that all the experts were wrong and the only people who were right about you know substantial parts of this coronavirus

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substantial parts of this coronavirus stuff the only people were right were the people who didn't have qualifications but they were pretty good at spotting BS from experts so yeah so I guess my point is that there is expertise in spotting BS Trump has it I think Trump has it and let's hope he makes the right decision all right that's about all I have today any of you have any questions wouldn't listen to you not about you don't know what that means yeah you know there are a lot of people who have very limited skill stacks who I think believe other people do as well so if you only had one skill you probably wouldn't know how useful it is to have more than one because you can only see the world through your your little hole mail-in voting you know I

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little hole mail-in voting you know I think the experts have to weigh in on the mail-in voting because my understanding is it's too easy for to do you know ballot harvesting which is you you agree to carry somebody's ballot and hand it in for them and that sort of gives you a little bit of control over the votes so I would say that there's a guarantee there's a guarantee that vote harvesting and you know some shenanigans will happen with mail-in votes but it's an emergency yeah is it is there no way that we can you figure out how to do voting without going in person let me ask you this and I've said this before but can you can you honestly tell me that you can't make an app to vote by app now this isn't going to help all the senior citizens but can you really tell me that you can't make a vote by app that that guarantees that the right person voted

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guarantees that the right person voted let me tell you how let's say I've got a paper ballot that normally I would mail in but I also have an app and the app would let me mail it in with a guarantee that there's no shenanigans and all the app does is take a picture of the ballot let's say you just you just on the table you just take a picture of it Boop then it prompts you to turn the camera toward yourself and it says you know say these words and you just read the words and then you turn on the camera and it's a and you say my name is blah blah blah here's my social security number and this is my vote it just gets stored so if anybody ever questions whether this vote is actually how you voted they can they can audit it just call up any vote look at the vote look at the person contact them make sure

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at the person contact them make sure it's the same person and say was this your vote so you could audit enough of them to know that nobody was cheating so here's here's what I'd say you want to you want to pair the person's actual you know biometric essence whether they do it with a fingerprint or facial recognition or whatever as their identity and then then check with them after the fact and make sure that what they say they voted for is actually what got recorded somebody says they don't trust virtual why wouldn't you trust them
who's guaranteeing it talk about voter suppression now this would be an option so the the app would only give you an option you wouldn't have to vote that way so you probably still would have to have some mail-in options you probably have to have some in person options especially for the elderly but it would be easy to imagine that a younger relative could come over and say hey you

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relative could come over and say hey you know hey mom you know instead of mailing it in or going to to vote once you just fill out your form and I'll take a picture of it with the app and then I'll point it at you and make sure that you know you register that way so that's how I do it Venezuela what's your take on that mess well the Venezuela mess I keep wondering when things are going to break meaning how much further can Venezuela go without overthrowing their alleged leader so I think it's just a waiting game when things get desperate enough it seems like that'll happen wrong there's somebody on here who obviously is new we've decided that a good comment to give to me would be just one word wrong unbeknownst yep that's an automatic block cool that I

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that's an automatic block cool that I can hack it and punish those how could you hack that so this for those of you who say it could be hacked how could you hack that now you could hack it you could hack it ahead of time but the audit would catch it so the vote would just be thrown out I don't think you can hack it we'll see somebody says that's a third party vote well it's not a third party vote if you're if your grandmother puts in their social security number and your grandmother says on camera you know hi I'm grandma blah blah blah this is my vote it doesn't matter if somebody else is holding the phone and photographing them putting the social security openly on an app is it safe it's 2020 think about that question is it safe to put your social security number in an app let's

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social security number in an app let's say a government approved app is there no place you've ever typed your social security number online there's nobody ever called you from you've never had to put that on a form it's the the most common thing in the world is writing your social security number down if you're dealing with the government especially and of course I could be encrypted but due to Soviet Union held out for years threatens with a gun yeah you could threaten somebody to vote with the gun I suppose but you could do that with a bail-in vote too
relaxation tips that you use daily for tonight yeah I could do that I'll give you all of my relaxation tips today random audit of millions no that's not how random works random means you only have to check some you don't have

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only have to check some you don't have to check them all and by the way you could check them all with well you could do some of the checking with facial recognition so you could check all the people who just lied about who they are you could check that just run a program against it so you know you just look at the face and then compare it to the name and then the facial recognition says that's the wrong face for that name you could pick those up right away it is not safe to put your social summon Social Security number in an app again it's 20/20 your social security number is all over the place and certainly the government has it so if your app is encrypted and it's going to the government yeah somebody could get it but there are about a million other ways they can get it as well so you know it if you were to just vote by mail do you put your social security

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by mail do you put your social security number on the mail can somebody answer that question if you vote by mail do you have to put your social security number on your mail-in ballot I'm guessing yes but suppose it's just a driver driver's license well whatever it is from the mail in you just do the same thing from the app so if the if the mail-in requires two IDs well then the other one does too so it's just the same though somebody had a great sleep last night two out of three good illegals can get Social Security numbers but the illegals would get caught by the facial recognition software so the illegal who tried to vote with the app would say hello my name is Scott Adams and I'm voting and then the facial recognition app would run against it it would pick up his face and it would say you were not Scott Adams that's somebody else and that vote

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Adams that's somebody else and that vote would be questioned or thrown out I had to submit my social security number for my teaching certificate yeah it's everywhere fingerprint to vote why not I mean you can use your fingerprint on your digital device so yeah that could be that could be one form of identification maybe you just add another one somebody says it's not unformed no they don't ask for okay so here's a here's updated information the mail inform they do not require a social security number therefore I would also not require it for for an app but it would be the same risk as all I'm taking whatever risk the mail-in has you just take the same risk with the app it shouldn't be that different how will I

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shouldn't be that different how will I spend it V V Corona stay is that Victory Day
don't know what it is though it's not my father
hmm I'm gonna have to sign off because I got a little emergency here I don't know what that is but it doesn't sound good I'm gonna take care of that that'll talk to you tonight