Episode 888 Scott Adams: Swaddle Away Your Cares and Ease Into a Great Night of Sleep

Date: 2020-04-03 | Duration: 48:39

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bumbum bumbum well i don't know about you but I'm drinking coffee late at night that's how I roll I was up this morning and started work at I think 2 a.m. it's weird having complete control over your schedule if you'd like to simultaneously except I know this is swaddle time but breaking the rules a little bit this would be the time grab your cup grab your mug go mmm well tell me dear dear audience how many of you had an extra good night's sleep with my help so after i hypnotized those of you who stayed around to the end and were willing how many of you actually experienced an extra good night of sleep

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experienced an extra good night of sleep tell me in the comments well we'll see that it'll take a moment to catch up
swaddle be gently that should be the name of a movie he swallowed me he swaddled me gently alright let's let's do a little breakdown of the events and since last I talked to you so we had another meeting of the task force press conference and let me tell you how it went first of all minuchin secretary minuchin was really good did you catch the newton's presentation so he was talking about the financial side of it and i gotta say it was really good so here's what was good about it he had a confident sort of in command way about him which is exactly what you

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way about him which is exactly what you want to hear you don't want to hear any do the ring you want to hear him say I'll have to ask somebody about that you don't want to hear him say I'll look into it you know you wanted to just tell you what's a good idea and tell you what he's doing and what the priorities are and I would say he nailed it so very strong from minuchin the other thing I liked about it in particular is a he was specific where he could be so everywhere that he could give you a time estimate he would say you know we're gonna try to do this in two weeks normally it would take X months but we're gonna really try to do it in two weeks now in a few cases I believe he didn't have as much certainty but he still bounded it which is exactly what you want because that tells you that he knows what he's doing it's not that we have to manage him exactly and it's not that you know we're directly going to do something if it's one answer or another but the fact that he knows and he can

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but the fact that he knows and he can say well this is about two weeks this one you know we don't have a handle on it but we've tried to do it in a month or whatever he said but he basically he bounded everything he put an estimate on everything and he put a boundary on everything and then he told you what he would do if the boundary was exceeded so when the kid in the case of I forget which part of the plan he was talking about he said if we need more then we'll go back and you know phase four I get it and I thought okay I have I now have a a really good understanding of the situation sufficient for my purposes as a citizen because remember we're all in this this is this is not a spectator sport the the messages that our leaders are telling us our experts and our leaders are making us act differently in profound ways everything from closing down the economy to don't wear masks do wear masks don't worry this do or that you know start up factories don't start

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you know start up factories don't start up factories but mostly I guess start off factories so the information we give for our leaders is absolutely making lots of us act differently so it matters that they're saying it right now I do not have as ayuh grade for the rest of the presentation I'm not going to single anybody out but I don't know how many times I have to say this and I guess based on a lot of comments that I got on Twitter there are a number of you who don't understand why I'm so worked up about the fact that the task force is not clearly telling us this is how much we need of everything this is how much we think we have and this is how much we're producing to you know fill in any gaps now some people have said to me quite reasonably if yeah here's a perfect example of how if your skill stack does not include let's say business and economics or finance or anything it's a perfectly reasonable

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anything it's a perfectly reasonable question what's the difference because it's gonna be what it's gonna be right if it's bad it's bad if it's good it's good they're trying as hard as they can it's not like anybody's dragging their feet right they're trying as hard as I can it's gonna be what its gonna be what's the difference if if you and I know how close they are there's a big difference and it's not obvious I don't think it would be obvious to everybody so let me explain it to you and I think everybody who's gonna any kind of background in business or economics will agree with what I'm going to say which is that expectations are really important and we are acting differently depending on what they tell us for example would the would Michael and L than by the my pillow guy would he would he convert his factories to make I think masks I think he's making masks would he do that if he knew that we're about we were 95% there yeah we're within

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were 95% there yeah we're within striking distance would he have changed his whole factory over to make masks if he knew we were almost there anyway probably not right I mean that's a big big big investment by him and his employees and everything else and so if we were 10 percent of the way there and it really is an enormous national you know emergency as opposed to you know an average emergency you were you know kind of wonder we almost have under control it's a gigantic difference how how much pressure would we the citizens put on our government if you knew that we were only ten percent of the way there you put a lot of pressure on you in fact you would say you need to stop everything else you're doing and make sure that the health care professionals get the right protective equipment but you wouldn't even let them finish the press conference if the number was ten percent right so but if the number is let's say

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right so but if the number is let's say sixty percent would you act differently well you might you might you might not try too hard because you know it's really gonna kill somebody in actuality somebody actually could die if you hoard some stuff so it might change how you how you act it might change whether you get involved and trying to make some ask yourself it might you know it might change your behavior in lots of different ways but here's the thing the most important thing you would do is if we know how close we are to meeting our needs for those basics the health care professional frontline basics especially ventilators if we knew how close we were that would also give us a lot more visibility on when do we get back to work right because if we have enough ventilators not as many people will die and so as the number of people who die goes down that's going to be the metric it's not going to be the number of people who get it it's going to be more than number of people would die so as we

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than number of people would die so as we get a hold of you know as we build up our hydroxychloroquine our masks our ventilators the number of people who will die it should be predicted to go down you know in a predictable fashion and that should also give you much better visibility of when the economy gets back on his feet now why is that important well let me explain something about the economy that you probably have never heard except maybe for me if I've said it before which is the economy is best understood as a set of ideas and thoughts the economy exists in our minds our collective minds and here's what I mean if if I don't um if I don't trust you to pay me we can't make a deal oh it would be so hard that you wouldn't have much of an economy so one of the things that that is the collective idea is that you don't cheat the other person and part of the collective idea is if the more

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the collective idea is if the more visibility that you have the less likely somebody is going to try it anyway so the best economies are and this is no coincidence the ones where there's the most built-in trust for the most part that let's say you're in the United States for the most part if you're just buying a good or a service you think most of the time you're gonna get what you paid for every now and then you'll something bad will happen but but the fact that there's a general understanding that there's a trust and everybody's watching is what builds an economy but also as somebody said in the comments the expectations if you expect things to be good tomorrow and that's just a mental state is just your expectation then you will invest today and it's that investing today that makes it possible for things to be good tomorrow so the entire economy is the outgrowth of a set of mental expectations and here's where I'm going

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expectations and here's where I'm going to this this set of mental expectations which have been intricately designed over time to hold together require that the real world is also you know part of the action because you don't you don't think about the mental part too much if you're actually going to work and making money and buying things and and making profits and stuff you think that's the stuff you think it's the goods and the and the things you're moving and the money that's going back and forth but that's just the outcome that's just the result of having a well-designed mental model which is the strength of the United States so I would say that if you combine the mental models of our patriotism and you know national preferences if you will with the mental model of capitalism and fairness and you know just who we are as a people those are the structures that have to be solid for everything else to work because there

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everything else to work because there would be no nobody buying and selling anything and there would be no economy physically except for those mental models that we all share now here's the important part we're not all equally contributing to the existence of the mental model meaning that most of you don't need to know anything I'm talking about you just need to know that there is an economy and you could go to work but there there has to be some critical mass of people who think is substantially the way I'm thinking which is that the economy is the way you act on the set of thoughts and those have to be solid they have to be well-designed thoughts that are engineered to work well together just like capitalism just like democracy the Republic those are well engineered the thoughts now the biggest challenge I believe between where we are now and getting back to solid economic footing

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getting back to solid economic footing is that we don't lose our mental model while we have paused the physical world the physical world can actually take a pause if your mental model stays intact because most of the things that will need to be you know primed again and pumped up we know how to do that it's all part of our mental model so unless the mental model breaks and one of the ways it could break for example just to give you some a concrete example it could be that half of the country says I think we need socialism and then half of the country would be supporting a different model in their head and it would start to conflict with the common model and then the physical world would start to reflect that conflict and that might not be good could be good could be just a trans transition to something better but it would at the very least it would introduce some risk so here's the point people who understand the economy and understand business if you look

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and understand business if you look their comments to this you'll often see that they're tending toward the optimistic or tell you you know well you know we'll lose this much which might be scary but it's not necessarily the end of the world the people who are telling you it's going to be the end of the world are the people who don't understand economics it's not because they don't understand it in other words that they're not describing it wrong because of the lack of understanding that might also be happening but rather if you're an artist a writer a journalist but not an economist a business person a finance person then you say to yourself what what is my job require and your job requires interest you want your reader to be interested and so you'll tell the story that's really scary about the next big depression and yeah it's the worst things that with the worst things will ever be and you think well I'm just telling a story it's interesting it might be true I'm just saying it might be true worst case scenario that's fair right but those stories are deeply

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right but those stories are deeply degrading and damaging to the set of ideas that are well designed and are just sort of floating in space held together by the people who understand this stuff and you need the people who don't understand it to take a vacation and not try to break the set of ideas which are the strongest set of ideas in the history of humanity you know the things that you know give us you know equality the things that give us you know competition free market stuff you know the set of ideas which is which is us is the strongest set of ideas ever engineered not perfect maybe we can do better but up to this point in history it's the strongest set of Engineers engineered ideas of all time and we got to keep that together and what I'm suggesting is that a big part of keeping that together is confidence and a big

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that together is confidence and a big part of confidence is when your leaders can give you numbers and estimates so for example if your if my leader said I guarantee you that we'll be back to work on I'll just pick a day June first then the economy would say the idea of the economy is solid now because we just got an expectation and we need that that's our fuel the expectation so now you're solid and now you can make it to June first now what happens if June first comes and the leaders say ah too soon it's gonna be July still okay still okay because you went from you know a sense of some idea where you're going gave you some confidence didn't work out but that's how capitalism works lots of things don't work out companies fail capitalism is a big failure engine that only works on average and so we could

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only works on average and so we could basically reach a point where our expectation of things could decide what the future is it's power of positive thinking when it comes to economics it's real you know the power of positive thinking is sort of that the magical version that you can you know wish yourself into a reality now I'm not going to claim that any of that's provable in any kind of a scientific way or even true in any way that you would think for things to be true I do know it seems like it's true those of us who practice it become presidents and famous cartoonists and stuff and it doesn't seem like a coincidence that the people who have that mindset tend to be more successful and I'm suggesting that the people who have that mindset your president is one of them I'm very optimistic I'm trying to be one of them and thousands of other people who are like-minded who

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people who are like-minded who understand that the economy is a psychology engine and if we don't keep that a hundred percent it doesn't matter what's happening with our physical assets that we won't be ready when when the time comes so we need our task force to give us their best estimates of how close they'll be to averting a gigantic hospital debacle because of lack of equipment if they say that we're nowhere near it then you and I need to work harder literally you and I need to work harder because if we're sending our first-line hospital people into battle without weapons you and I need to work harder there's something we need to do donate money you find a friend making a connection build a mask I don't know it must be something we could do we have push our politicians so yeah we need to know are we ten percent of the way there thirty percent of the way there with a good chance of closing the gap are we 90 percent of there and full

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are we 90 percent of there and full confidence we'll close it and we're going to keep making stuff so we can help people in other countries wouldn't that be great and by the way all you'd have to do is tell me that we're gonna make enough for us but we're gonna go gangbusters to make enough for the rest of the world you know if my government just told me that I would have a much better sense of how we're gonna get to the end of this that would give me some confidence and visibility about the future and that would allow me to be one of the people who can support this idea machine that is the economy so I'm trying to do the very best I can and I realize that if you did not have a background in some of this stuff economics and business it would not be obvious whatsoever they're getting the way we think about it is actually important to the outcome it's just it is the outcome the outcome is nothing but in terms of the economics the way this the way this turns out is

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the way this the way this turns out is almost entirely a function of how we collectively expect it to turn out and we could literally will the economy into a stronger place now I don't mean I don't mean in magic ways you know nothing like you know new agey or anything I'm saying that our expectations is what causes us to act answer ways and we can simply tune our expectation to a positive outcome and the odds of that translating into an actual positive outcome about a hundred percent because that's what it is the economy is nothing but those act expectations played out in the physical world probably said enough about that I was looking at the the death counts so I go to world world ometer world ohmmeter comm world ometer and it's got some good statistics well they're all bad I

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statistics well they're all bad I suppose about coronavirus and I got a question because it looked like the total number of deaths in the United States is flattening can anybody can anybody confirm that so I think I think the deaths in the United States are over 6,000 but I need a confirmation to this I think that yesterday the total number of deaths in the United States from coronavirus was a thousand 49 just before I signed on and of course today is now over but let's say let's say today is ninety percent over because most of the cases are on the East Coast and the East Coast just has a couple hours left all right yeah before the before it's tomorrow so the number is 968 today as of few minutes ago so that's under yesterday's count so yesterday was a thousand forty-nine days

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yesterday was a thousand forty-nine days not over but it's almost over and were under that number does that she has only looking at your comments to see if anybody has some comments because it looks like it started to go flat is that can anybody confirm that now it should be sad that you know one days you know wait one days number doesn't mean much so you know but you'd have to wait for several days to know if there's anything like it and they changed on the daily counts top said midnight GMT huh so is today the day is today the day maybe let me remind you of my prediction because I think I have the most contrarian project prediction because

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contrarian project prediction because the predictions tend to be it's gonna be hundreds of thousands of people it's gonna be terrible and some people say it's no worse than the flu and it's gonna be nothing we should have gone back to work my take is that it's probably exactly as dangerous as experts are saying I mean they may be off by a factor of five but it's still in the super dangerous category so I think that's true but I think that we will be so good at combating it that we'll we'll surprise ourselves and that the total net number of death will be under 5,000 now you say to yourself Piscotty it's already 6,000 why would and it's not done it's not even close to done so why would you say it's going to be 5000 if it's already 6,000 and the answer is I'm talking about net meaning that you have to count the number of people that we saved by keeping people off the streets which turns out to be a pretty big number and is bigger than the

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number and is bigger than the coronavirus death number at the moment now in theory if the experts are right the coronavirus deaths will pass the the number that we're saving by keeping people off the roads and you know away from I know hiking accidents and stuff like that at some point it'll cross but I'm predicting that we'll have enough days before that's going to happen to actually get on top of it meaning that the hydroxychloroquine might work there might be something else that works maybe the testing will become more ubiquitous maybe we figure something else out but that's where I'm at on that all right what about suicides well I wonder I'm not entirely sure that there will be more of them I think we can guarantee that whenever there's a change of any kind people will react to it so

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of any kind people will react to it so well here's what I would expect I can't guarantee this but here's what I expect I'll bet you the number of suicides goes down while at the same time I will acknowledge that there might be people who will kill themselves who might might not have but I think that the net will be positive now some of it might be just that we're forced to be in the same quarters so I would think you need a little bit of privacy to do something like that so one of the effects is that people just won't have privacy for a while one of the effects might be that people feel connected to other people in a way that they didn't feel before maybe people are just more afraid of you know the world than they are their own little problems for a while so if I had to guess I think I think we'll be better on that metric as well if it's up will you lump that in your net well it all has to be lumped

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your net well it all has to be lumped right if if it's something we could measure or even estimate with some reasonable estimate I that is net so you don't have to ask me other questions about is this in the number or is it not if we can measure it as part of did we did people die or did they not then yeah of course you know it doesn't matter if I've thought of it yet if you think of something else they could be in that number yeah that counts too whichever way it goes that's how it works all right we need a gross prediction because net is impossible to calculate no it isn't now we'll be able to calculate that because now of course not with the certainty of you know precision like a rocket rocket needs to be precise but we know for example on any given week of the year how many people are likely to die in you know drunk driving accidents so

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in you know drunk driving accidents so you all you'd have to do is say well let's say this year isn't going to be that much different than the last three years how do we do you just say uh we're down on that by 10,000 people Crona coronavirus deaths are up by you know 15,000 or whatever net is not valid and that is the only thing that's valid because if you make a decision which affects all of those other things you can't not count all the other things that got infected it's got to be lumped in there I've asked 100 times how you're going to measure metrics well I just told you you would just estimate based on prior years and then count up the rotavirus deaths and bada-bing you got it I like when stocks are up so the thing you should here's one of these little

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you should here's one of these little predictive things that will drive you crazy on any day when the stocks are sharply up there's more chance that tomorrow is going to be sharply down it's probably like two to one and then vice versa you know when it's down it's probably a two-to-one chance that it'll at least be up a little bit the next day so just you know that you could still have a run of you know five days in a row that's down so that's not ruled down I'm just saying it's one of those general patterns that you see a lot
net is 100% valid thank you can we talk about Jared Kushner let's talk about Jared Kushner I personally I feel more comfortable whenever he's on the case he and I I don't remember him talking at the task forces before so I'm generally confident that things are gonna be done

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confident that things are gonna be done you know rationally and yeah let's say with with kindness when he's on the case cuz he seems good at that so that's good but he needs to do the same thing that the rest of the task force needs to do which is tell the square we're at in terms of meeting of needs for equipment for the frontline people to talk about the Admiral was the was that the Admiral who's in charge of procurement and logistics see that's I think that's the guy who needs to be telling everybody else the numbers so it's it's not Jared Kushner's fault if he can't tell you the numbers if the guy who's in charge of getting the numbers also can't tell you the numbers so it's probably the Admiral now he had some BS about tapping into the the hospitals

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about tapping into the the hospitals procurement systems and writing some software and blah blah blah and what'd he say he was gonna get a procurement tower or something some buzzword I didn't even know what it meant so a lot of that was just jargon nonsense and I'm sure he's very good at his job maybe the best in the world according to trump and i have no reason to doubt it but in terms of his communicating with the public which i don't believe he's never had to do before maybe that's the first time he's ever had to talk to a a non-military audience about you know something that's important to his job in this way so I just I don't think he I don't think he hit the mark but I would expect him to quickly adapt because at that level at that level they don't make a mistake the same mistake twice you know what I mean like by the time you're an admiral or a general you're gonna look at your performance you're gonna fix it it's not going to be

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you're gonna fix it it's not going to be the same same the second day so I would expect that he will start giving us some useful numbers he has not done that yet in fact I'll make a prediction you want a prediction tomorrow's tomorrow's press conference the Admiral will tell you something closer to this is what we need this is what we have and it could be a wild estimate but if it's the best he knows that I want to know that even if he's wrong and even if he has to revise it later all right is there anything else you guys want otherwise where is ship will we learn from our mistakes with China I'll tell you the United States has never had this feeling about China before all at the same time you know China can be divisive you know if the Democrats like China then the

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Democrats like China then the Republicans have to not like him and vice versa but at the moment the United States I think we see what we're dealing with here so you know I'm being asked in the comments about 3m apparently the President had to put the boot on 3m or maybe they were helping 3m get rid of some kind of obstacle so I don't want to assume that the whatever the order was that the President signed I don't want to assume that 3m was doing anything wrong but they may have had some obstacle that they also heated the president to get out of the way so what that's a wait-and-see I wouldn't want to make a judgement based on what we know about that which is not much where is Joe yes where is Joe Biden do you think gavin newsom will push for martial law you know I'm not entirely sure what martial law buys you that we don't

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martial law buys you that we don't already have I mean I could probably make a list of what you can do with it that you can't do without it but do we need it i I don't I don't see the need for it if that develops anything's possible I suppose I'm I'm far less concerned than all of you are about turning into a dictatorship and part of that is you know my little monologue earlier talking about you know these ideas that hold us together as a country and the strongest ideas we have is that we're not going to put up with a dictator there's probably nothing there's more basic to the the American character and I'm talking about everybody who is you know 10 generations here plus everybody who came over yesterday because even the people who came here yesterday they're not into dictators not at all so the risk that this country could turn into a

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this country could turn into a dictatorship you know maybe I'm too optimistic but to me it's zero times zero times zero because the public we just have too strong a mental model that we would die to change that you know I mean so many Americans would just say oh that's the deal we're gonna be a dictatorship alright where do I have to sign up to die to change that and you'd have so many volunteers that it would change instantly so we're as long as our mental models are good and they are we're very safe from that now you won't hear something controversial you won't like it for years I've been saying that we see privacy and our loss of privacy as a bad thing that we believe privacy is good and loss of privacy is bad I've been saying that our filters are backwards and that the illusion here is that what we're really comparing is one person having privacy but you don't

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person having privacy but you don't because that's bad you don't want to you don't want to live in the world where other people have privacy but you don't like no no thank you that'd be the worst world right so when you say do you want privacy or do you think it'd be okay if we had less privacy we reflexively think in terms of I don't want to be the one who doesn't have it but consider this world happen a world where nobody at it no I'm talking not talking about your bedroom and bathroom activities you still have that as private as you want but imagine we this pandemic came and we had already all of us given away our privacy and and just think about this as an idea not a suggestion all right there's nothing about what I'm gonna say that's actually gonna happen in the real world it's just a thought experiment so you don't have to get mad at me I'm not promoting it it wouldn't matter if I did it's not gonna happen all right so you just think about it from the only intellectual thought about it if we had

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intellectual thought about it if we had given away all of our privacy let's say we had let the government know in all times where our phones are so that it could tell who was near anybody else then their contact tracing would be instant so you wouldn't have to worry about oh this person you know just was found to have the virus the moment you find it out you would just put that person's phone number into your system and everybody who had had contact with him in the last two weeks would get a text and I think they're doing that somewhere or South Korea maybe but in order to do that we would have already had to have had to agree to give up our privacy now the downside is that they abuse it but would they here's the thing they could abuse it if they had privacy and you didn't but remember that's the situation that we all agree is the worst one so I don't favor a situation where somebody in the government could still have their own privacy and then abused

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have their own privacy and then abused yours you'd have to be in the same boat whereas if they started to abuse your privacy you could know they were doing it because they wouldn't have a new privacy you would know what they were doing so you'd say hey don't abused my privacy or or there would be nothing to abuse because I'm everybody to giving it up now you'd have to have exceptions you know maybe not your health care etc but you could you could easily imagine a world where giving away all of your privacy allows you to solve gigantic problems gigantic problems like a pandemic all right if we had given away all of our privacy the pandemic would be over but you know it has its own costs and you're well aware of them so I'm not selling it not saying you should give away your privacy I'm just saying if we had we'd be working right now somebody says naive so he says

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right now somebody says naive so he says very negative well I'd lock all those people so you're you're welcome to give reasons but if you say naive or very naive or even just wrong then indeed you will be blocked they would abuse this all right can we agree can we agree that you don't have to tell me that people would try to abuse it can you agree that I know that so you don't have to keep telling me because that would be sort of in the obvious category but everything's kind of got a risk and a trade-off so there you are what were the odds that we would all be dressing like antiphon if if if we're living in a simulation I

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if if we're living in a simulation I always say this jokingly so don't don't take this too seriously but I always say that one of the one piece of evidence not proof but compatible evidence that you're living in the simulation is code reuse they'd see things that you know you just see patterns over and over again so don't you think we're seeing some code use the you know one of the biggest stories is people wearing masks that are just like scarves around their face mostly that I guess and all kinds of masks but they had all kinds of masks and they were wearing the masks in public and that was like a big story for Less several years to be a whole bunch of masked people in public and then there's a pandemic in a car what does it cause people to wear masks in public no did both of those things have to happen in the same few years the completely different stories and they both they both required somebody to wear a mask in

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both required somebody to wear a mask in public code reuse that is how you know that this is a simulation how is Mexico doing I do not know how a Mexico is doing I you know you want to hear a theory say yes yes you do you won't hear a wild theory all right here's the caveat I'm not going to go full conspiracy theory I'm just going to say that if you were going to predict the future maybe this would be you know compatible with a prediction so it goes like this so if you believe that the cartels in Mexico have too much control over the government including the federal government that we could never really work with the federal government of

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work with the federal government of Mexico to do something about the cartels because they are the cartels you know or at least they're working with them we're afraid of them or taking money from them or something so some kind of you know there's some kind of too much of a closeness there now that's the first assumption so if you don't think that's the case then nothing else I say makes sense but but for those of you say yeah I'll buy I'll go with you so far that the government of Mexico is probably little friendly with the cartels now let's say that you're president Trump and you want to figure out a fix this cartel situation and you're looking at all your options and you look at your assets and what you got going and you say you know what I say we have is this el chapo is in jail so you've got el chapo and he's probably flexible right now right it's probably flexible so el

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now right it's probably flexible so el Chapo's in our jail probably getting flexible doesn't look like he's ever gonna go back to his life of being a you know narco crime boss I would think he's really flexible now just hold that thought separately in the news did you see the weird story about the President of Mexico visited the town where El Chapo's mother lived and in what looked like it was planned and there were cameras rolling and everything he stopped and went over and and greeted the woman and talked to her in her car the ninety five year old mom and she said something about you know she had sent him a letter and I think he said he got it probably something about her son and so people said all right this is a coincidence is it a coincidence that the President of Mexico happens to just run into El Chapo his mom in an intersection and decides to stop and go talk to her does that

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to stop and go talk to her does that sound like a coincidence well maybe it was so one possibility is that's all it was he's just a politician you just you know ya know he had no beef with the mother maybe she's kind of famous so I just stopped and talked to her so maybe it was just that possible here's another possibility and I'm not saying this is true I this is just for fun
fun okay there's not a prediction I don't know anything I don't have any inside information just for fun if you were Trump how would you get rid of the cartels and still get the present government of Mexico involved well here's the way I'd do it I would get the cartel whose leader you have under your control to protect the president and the high officials in the government so if the President of Mexico needed

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the President of Mexico needed protection from his own country who would he turn to his military well could he trust them maybe not but he might be able to turn to El Chapo's cartel and El Chapo could and again I'm not saying this is happening this is just for fun now chapo could agree with the government of the United States here's the deal I'll go straight and get out of the drug business and in return you know you'll give me some leniency and you'll you'll let my people live and stuff but we'll get out of the drug business but between now and the time we do we'll protect the government of Mexico so that you can work with them to get rid of the other cartels and suddenly the President of Mexico is talking to the mother of El Chapo and it all makes sense so could it be that the President of Mexico may be under the protection of El Chapo as

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under the protection of El Chapo as people because the United States and El Chapo find that to be a good understanding maybe that's the best way to protect the President of Mexico maybe that's why we'll see more military action against the cartels now should you bet on this no no no if this ever became like a betting market unpredicted don't bet on that I'm just saying it fits it fits the evidence that doesn't mean it's true because it only fits the evidence we know which is not very much somebody says the Mexican army ran from El Chapo is son right so you do know that at least in some places the cartel is more powerful than the army so it does kind of make sense does that kind of make sense and if you were El Chapo would you make that deal I would because what else has he got you know al chapo might want a good life for

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know al chapo might want a good life for you know whoever is not in jail that his family and stuff maybe you could make a deal get him out of the drug business they have some chance of living but he might need to protect the president well well business is being taken care of all right is zoom safe you mean zoom as in Z oom the software so first of all zoom is an amazingly good product it's a really good product I got to say it's just well designed but it's not the only thing that does that there are other you know I used to use something the other day that they could do something similar and but zoom sends at least some of its traffic through servers and China and most of their engineers I think most of them are in China and that's a security issue so if you're just you know talking to your friends it's great but if you have any kind of proprietary information

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have any kind of proprietary information or anything anything you wouldn't want China to know about I wouldn't use that zoom sends all your passwords to China says somebody that's probably literally true in the sense that the traffic might be going through servers there I don't I'm not saying it's literally true and that they're emailing your password to the government all right I think I've said everything I need to say and I will see you in the morning but before that I want to tell you that you're gonna have a really good night of sleep tonight again if you didn't have one last night well even more reason to have a good one tonight but you're gonna get better and better as sleeping until you can just lay down and drift away so think of my voice counting you to 20

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voice counting you to 20 and feel yourself just drifting away and I won't do it tonight you can just replay it in your mind and then tell me tell me how well you slept tomorrow morning I will see you in the morning 10:00 a.m. Eastern 7:00 a.m. Pacific have a great night