Episode 874 Scott Adams: Taking Your Calls for the Simultaneous Swaddle

Date: 2020-03-27 | Duration: 54:16

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bum bum bum bum hey everybody come on in here hey Jan get in here do you have your soft like it it's it's time for this imal taneous swaddle and questions yeah questions there is so much news that I've got to do this twice a day just to get it all in two hours a day of live streaming and I love every minute of it cuz I get to spend it with you now if I were President Trump and I was trying to tell you how good the simultaneous swaddle is well I would say things like this I would say it might be the best ever it could be could be the best ever simultaneous swaddle everybody's telling me everybody's telling you they've never seen anything like it I mean they've never seen anything like it it's the simultaneous Waddell and even my critics are saying you know they can't believe it they can't believe it nobody's done this before it's that's the most amazing thing we've ever seen yes if I were president trumpet that's

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yes if I were president trumpet that's how I would sell this so some of you may have questions let me mention a few things before we do that if you're trying to guess how long it will take you to get paper goods on the shelf let's say toilet paper as a prime example I have an estimate and the estimate is approximately one month from whatever the shelves were mostly dry and the reasoning is this if you were to guess of all the people who did a little hoarding and all the people who didn't because surely there were people who didn't do any or didn't do much if you were to take the average I think the average is that each family had about a month of supply now that's a guess of course but it feels about what people would do on average some people would have six months some people would forget to go to the store there kind of balance each other out so let's say a month so if things were normal it would take about a month but of course as soon as

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about a month but of course as soon as they got here they would be hoarded unless the stores put a limit on it and say well you know two toilet papers for you and at which point the problem is solved so I think it's a month from the day that it started so that's my estimate for that have you seen some news about Joe Biden in the comments because I looked for the news on the front page of CNN and Fox News and I kept looking this was earlier maybe there's something there now and there was no mention of a little story about Joe bun have you heard it well I don't know what really happened or really did not happen but there's a me-too accusation that has the patina of credibility the patina of credibility you don't get to say patina too much in public but anytime I get a chance I'm

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public but anytime I get a chance I'm gonna go right in there with the patina so if you haven't heard the accusation there is a set of the kids way send the children children go play with your screens get away from this adult activity so there was a woman who worked as a staffer I guess in the 80s and 90s in his office and she alleges alleges I say that he forcefully tried to kiss her and let's say that he put a part of his hand in a place that she didn't want now I haven't checked yet but I'm gonna guess that the hashtag will be trending by tomorrow
hashtag finger begging finger banging Biden that was that amount a winner finger bang and Biden you might have to

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finger bang and Biden you might have to spell it with the G or Nothing G I'm not quite sure yet but is this story true I don't know who knows who knows apparently she had contemporaneous reports and she was backing up somebody else who had similar reports and blah blah well I don't know about any that but what I do know is that I can't quite imagine him getting elected at this point it went from hard to believe - okay that's all - impossible so I just tweeted around to a video that cam lares just did she was talking about the vote for the the relief package whatever it's called and long ago I had predicted that she would disappear after withdrawing from the race and then she would retool it she would actually get consultants who would coach her run her physical mannerisms and how to use her hand gestures and even maybe how to dress and you know you know all the the basics of a politician

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know all the the basics of a politician you know how you look how you talk how you move and I don't know maybe she just had a good day but it looks like she came back and proved it looks like now of course if any of you were blind to it because you don't think she can get elected you don't want to faux fur she did something bad a million years ago blah blah Willie Brown but I'm not talking about that I'm just talking about the transformation of a let's say a candidate who had a lot of rough edges in terms of style I just predicted that it would somewhat dramatically improve from the time she disappeared mostly to the time that she needed to reappear it looks like that's happening so does that mean anything we'll see I guess using the I guess she's in the top three for consideration but there's a there's a Latina senator

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but there's a there's a Latina senator in Nevada who's also high in the list and that might make sense demographically it might make a little more sense so there's no certainty about Cobble harris but it's fun to watch all right one of the most interesting questions is that there very reasonable people people I know from Twitter from from you know years and years of experience who are smart and rational and usually right who are who believes that the coronavirus thing is is overblown and that the hysteria was out of proportion to the you know what it would ultimately become and then it was a mistake to have the half the economy shut down so hard now here's the thing that makes this so interesting in the end we'll never know you know you think that eventually well we'll find out in the long run but in this case we won't we actually

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but in this case we won't we actually won't know if it was a gigantic mass hysteria or we did a really good job in stopping it we'll never know now is the wild card of course I say this whole time is the the meds that are being tested whether it's the Hydra chloroquine or something else the resumes of whatever it is and then China thinks they have something but that's probably a lie so there must be a dozen or more different meds that have at least some promise and they're being tested pretty quickly so what happens if the meds work let's just say hypothetically let's say if the hydrochloric weaned it works and the supply gets up to gets up to speed pretty well wouldn't that look like we beat the curve because people would go back to work maybe they'd get a little sick but they don't die they don't need ventilators the hospital isn't crashed people aren't that worried we protect we

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people aren't that worried we protect we protect the old people for a little while longer everybody's smarter about washing their hands so to me it seems like we have a pretty distinct path out and and at least there's a possibility I don't know what the odds are but there's a possibility that we'll get to that better place without running any ventilators now that's basically the fact that we we have enough at the moment but what's tomorrow look like you know the whole reason that we we're building them like crazy is that it seems like all the smart people who know epidemics and follow this for a living they seem pretty unified that this is going to be bad so you can't tell anything from you know the snapshot in time you have to look at what they say it's gonna happen but what if it doesn't happen what if we get a total handle on this and deaths are under 5,000 for the country which by the way is my I'm gonna make that my prediction so my prediction is fewer

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prediction so my prediction is fewer than 5,000 deaths from corona virus in the United States now that would be at great odds with the experts but it assumes innovation so it assumes a tool comes online that hasn't been used yet so that that's the optimism that we were guess smarter about how doing doing that yeah maybe we test better you've seen amazing things about the test kits oh by the way here's another here's another prediction that I made a while ago I told you that I'd I'd worked with startups at Berkeley and this was just even a few years ago and one of the things I saw is that they had a whole bunch of technology that they were putting they were making different companies out of but all had the same quality which is there had been developed over the years rapid ways to test blood so after 9/11 and after you know bioweapons scares and stuff and

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know bioweapons scares and stuff and anthrax the government asked the labs to find a way to very rapidly test blood for bioweapons now that would include of course the ability to test for you know a virus so I told you that I had the advantage that I've seen all these startups who could do this much faster and more cheaply and just with you know desktop units and stuff and I predicted that those would start coming online and I think that's what we're seeing yeah I'm not sure it's the same technology but I would imagine that the ability to rapidly test blood is something that did not exist in the the old fossilized you know system where you send it away to the lab but I assumed that it was something that existed and could be ramped up and it looks like that might be happening now so that could be great so what happens if we we find a way to test everybody cheaply at home and accurately well will the people who say I told you it wasn't

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the people who say I told you it wasn't gonna be a big deal are they right who would be right would they be right by saying it was mass hysteria well only because a miracle you know that that human ingenuity found a way to solve it I know on the other hand we don't know too much about China for example how they got ahold of it on top of it or if they did even it could be that that was the hydrochloric Queen as well all right you're in a town hall with congressman chef got a question I can ask yes congressman chef is there anything that's good that couldn't have been done sooner this is a general question because all day long you're watching idiots on television criticize anybody you knows whether it's Trump or anybody's criticizing anybody it's all

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anybody's criticizing anybody it's all the same empty criticize criticism should have been done sooner everything should have been done sooner you know after the fact we're all geniuses all yeah I should have been done sooner which completely loses the fact that at the time nobody really knew what to do but you have to do something so you do something maybe it works maybe it doesn't maybe adjust but I have no patience for the people who are gonna do an autopsy on a basically a brand new situation did you see CNN anchor interrupts Navarro constantly I did not but it sounds fun I hope there's a clip of it do you know many cell phones have gone dark a good question I don't know maybe we'll get that sometimes well let me see if I can take some questions let's check our techno let's say how about Euler if I pronounced that right Euler Euler hello

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pronounced that right Euler Euler hello do you have a question for me agent I've read all your books I'm Brazilian can you hear me yes oh yeah go ahead I just want to know how can I use more visual persuasion when speaking and writing because I see you here in the periscopes in when I read you I see you have a lot of visual persuasion in I read in win big Li you know that yeah it's really just a matter of training yourself in practice there's nothing magical to it you just have to know that math that visual persuasion works better and then keep that in the front of your mind because you know most of us can find a visual way to describe things if we're trying so it's really about reminding yourself to try that's I'd say that's 80% of the technique and then 20% is are you good at thinking of visual analogies that most people are most people are so there's nothing more to it than that I hope the helps yeah cuz I see you and president from doing it since and it's

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president from doing it since and it's great I tried to use a my lawyer when when speaking in courts and riding my my fires and stuff and I just want to know how you how how could I get there but thanks God yeah just just remind yourself and just do it so that's really all it is all right Thank You Man thank you all right so there are some things especially in persuasion that are just practice you just got to remind yourself and then you just got to do it and there's not much more to it that makes it that interesting all right Beth are you there Beth Beth Beth can you hear me do you have a question Beth yeah you've been talking about the golden the Golden Age coming for a couple of years I was wondering if you think this might accelerate it I think this is very much like the third act in the movie it's like everything's going well and then oh my god it's the problem you didn't see

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my god it's the problem you didn't see coming ruin everything and there's no way we can get out of it but we will of course yeah I think so like I think people are going to have a lot less tolerance for an efficiency and wasting time and that's what I think well there's one good thing about an emergency is that it reveals all your weaknesses and man if we we've seen all of our weaknesses and I was I would say there's there's nothing that's worked worse than Congress I think Congress just gets a failing grade I mean you can't argue that that was really just disgraceful I think it has nothing to do with Republican or Democrat I don't think it was just disgraceful isn't as a body
question I asked if you thought that this event would accelerate the gold age yeah you know it's gonna take a little while to get it under feet but I'm always I'm always on the side of it's

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always I'm always on the side of it's gonna be faster than you think and the question is just who say that the guessing the things will be faster than you think when humans are trying to solve a brand new problem is you it's almost always the right back because we're really good and you get smarter and smarter and smarter until you're smart enough and we get there quickly where humans are always slow is if you hire somebody to you know remodel your house yeah you asked your lawyer to turn something around in a day you know in the real world where you're just doing it's my job I'm just going to work I'm getting the paycheck everybody slow them because it just doesn't matter but in an emergency is like y2k we really do excel at that stuff and we do it faster than you think I guess Afghanistan it would be an exception what was your next question have you always been an optimist um I would say that I've always been an optimist internally but I actually had

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optimist internally but I actually had to learn to be an optimist externally because I thought that complaining about things was entertaining and
and it's a gigantic character flaw that until somebody is kind enough to be cruel you'll never see in yourself because complaining is just the easiest thing to do what do you think it today I know somebody was mean to me late I got a stomachache so it's the most automatic thing because you're thinking about your problems you know if you're trying to solve them so it was a friend of mine who in alcohol may have been involved years ago who basically just told me I was too negative and I was just you know wearing around and I thought what I'm not negative at all in my mind but indeed the topics I talked about were Downers even so it was bothering other people far more than it was bothering me and I was one with the problems so and and you learned that that you just can't burden

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learned that that you just can't burden people with a non-stop firehose of complaints and problems nobody wants to be around that so I had to learn that the hard way so I hope there's somebody brutally cruel in your life who will do the the favor to you that somebody did to me I'm the optimist in my house and and thanks for doing these it's super helpful and yeah it gives me perspective I appreciate it good well thanks for the questions take care all right let's see what we got here we're gonna go to Kevin Kevin you look like you got something to say hello Kevin you got a question for me the part about the wall and the example and everything and it rings true so what I've noticed in the press conferences with Trump and he had an interview with Sean Hannity tonight he seems to be dialing it back a little bit um he still gets a job in there and he

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um he still gets a job in there and he kind of explained it on Hannity tonight he said that he's gonna run on this record so he said he'll do what he did last time you know that's interesting because I was I was thinking of pointing it out but I hadn't decided if it was my imagination it looks like the president is taking a conscious effort to be more bipartisan not just for the you know the length of the crisis but it looks like a strategy doesn't it yeah it looks like he's because he can obviously turn it on and turn it off you know if he's meeting with the Queen he turns it off so we know he can turn it on and off so when it's off you have to know it's conscious right because the default is on so turning it off is the hard part so it looks like he's made that decision and I I think his instincts are right on because he doesn't have much to run against I mean right now Biden's just decomposing while we talk but and so I think just being nice if he

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but and so I think just being nice if he gets a little bump from doing a good job handling the crisis which we all hope even if we if we don't like the president you still hope he does a good job at the crisis so if he if he gets that done you know you've seen even his support with women just took a big jump up
up people are gonna be remembering this more than they'll remember every other thing he's ever done just gives us the recency issue and so so if he gets us through this and let's say the the cynic or the skeptics who say was never gonna be that big after all they're gonna they're gonna go nuts because they're gonna say you didn't save us there was nothing there to begin with oh it's so unfair don't get reelected because it's it's a track it's a track so you know that's coming you could you could see that from months ago all right thank you there is there's young got a thing to you mentioned you were the first one that I heard mentioned about the ventilators and using more than one for more than one patient and he also mentioned that on Hannity tonight he also mentioned that

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Hannity tonight he also mentioned that they're using 3d printers to print an adapter that will do this for up to four and also CPAP machines and the anesthesiologists ventilator yeah all the things that you've probably heard from me fairly early all right thank you were first yeah maybe so yeah and you know the the thing that I predicted you can see right in front of the way that they basically quadrupled ventilator capacity who saw that coming really who saw that guy well that's just quadrupling with a little valve here so and in a thousand different ways people are making that kind of little innovation that big things very impressive all right thank you thank you Scott all right let's see take another question here let's go to a psychic Brian psychic Brian psychic Brian can

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Brian psychic Brian psychic Brian can you hear me do you have a question hello I call yeah it's my call what's your question I have a question on hypnosis Jarrah was wondering if hypnosis can change the simulation that you're living in you've talked in your scopes about simulation we might be living in a simulation and I that's one like my second part so how how do you think hypnosis can change your own simulation that you might be living in and how long would that take if you were practicing play hypnosis well no I don't think there's any any way that hypnosis as as a practice in which you sit in front of one person and they go into a relaxed state I don't think that rewires the the simulation but and of course anytime I talk about the simulation is just for fun yes completely unprovable situation I just like it because it's provocative

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I just like it because it's provocative but it does seem as though you can change movies and let me give you a specific example if you were the most common one you know is Donald Trump a dangerous monster or do you have TDS you know the two different movies yes keep in mind though everybody in both movies survived eight many cases procreated and they lived their life in a completely different reality so you see it every day and you're gonna see it again when whenever we get past this crisis if it doesn't get as big as people said to movies again and people will live there forever and they will never have to resolve them so when I say that you can change your reality you can change your filter on it and just enter another movie yes that's what I mean your movie your movie that's the simulation but the movie you're at be in so you can't you you probably can't change it to any movie but it's clear it's clearly an obvious you know

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clear it's clearly an obvious you know you can just observe in a thousand different ways that people are in different movies and you do see people occasionally switch movie you know it's usually big news because it's so rare you know a Democrat who decides to be a trump supporter that sort of thing and I have experienced in my own life changing my filter you know usually with some psychedelic experience or a lot or something but the the the experience of it is that your reality changed and you're just in a different movie for a while but again you can still shop and you know live and broke and that's changed your life I mean it's for the better you changed your filter and you became more successful over the years more well known well I think yeah that's a little bit of a be testing and of course you always need a little luck but yeah I just try filters and when my filter doesn't work I say well that filter didn't work let's see if I can adjust to a better one all right thank you for the question thank you thank you Scott right Mike let's see what Donnie

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Scott right Mike let's see what Donnie has to say because I don't know anybody else who has that named it Donnie do you end in Y Donnie are you there do you have a question good yeah so when you started doing the night time podcast it reminded me of when Ted Koppel Nightline started in the late 70s with me hostage crisis and what do you think of Mike go that'll be fun to watch where it goes but thanks for everything appreciate oh yeah well you talked thanks to the question you know I don't plant it you know I didn't plan to do the morning ones I just sort of evolved into it I didn't didn't plan to be a commentator persuasion I didn't plan to write my Street last three books until I had an idea and did them so you know I always tell people to build your talent stack so you can go in a lot of different directions when this is over if I've

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directions when this is over if I've done a job that people would want to see more of in whatever way it would open up opportunities but I don't have a plan in advance about what I would do with that or or where I take it probably just something that's more and better along these lines maybe do some more interviews see what that looks like but thank you for the question keep it up thank you all right let's see what else we got here let's try Brian who's Brian can you hear me Brian Brian Brian technical difficulty baby okay that didn't work this must be excruciating if you're listening to it on a podcast oh I'm sorry alright let's go to the Krusty Krabs Krusty Krabs are you there hello Krusty do you have a question for me

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apparently not okay see seems he may have walked away
all right I'm in some weird mood mode let's try somebody else I swear I will get a real guest on here let's see if a jet girl is there Jake are you there hello do you have a question for me in your perspective on the statistical data that we get whether it be something that's brought together as in it's not Walter Lee but whoever's gathering it in I think it DC there's a hospital that's gathering all the data and just ones coming out from all over and how you feel how much of it is true and just what your overall opinion is about that the the the numbers are so unbelievable in terms of you know the likelihood that they're actually accurate solo that we're really in a complete fog of war the only thing you

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complete fog of war the only thing you can do is try stuff and see what happens and then even then as we've talked about before you still don't know if things change because the thing you tried it's kind of is it's a real guessing situation so here let me just go through some of the numbers that I have more or less confidence and I don't believe we know how many ventilators we will need and I don't believe we know how many are ordered and I don't believe we know how many we have I don't think we have any visibility on that because if we did I think the government would say oh here it is you know it's just three numbers yeah we need we have on order three numbers if they knew they'd tell us which means they don't know likewise for all the other PPE there's no visibility and I think that has something to do with the fact that you know a variety of entities are springing up to meet the need and I don't know that anybody has a idea how many of them can deliver and when are they real so I don't know the

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when are they real so I don't know the shortages is do you think is a fear or do you think it's realistically shortages well the the the shortages are based on what we anticipate for the most part there were only a few hospitals that look like they're starting to run low in real time right now but for 99% of the country there's a shortage in the sense that they think they might need something down the road and pretty quickly you know in a week or two nobody knows so that's the thing it will will the social separation work will all the people who are coming in now we're probably getting Hydra chloroquine are they not being hospitalized so the problems already solved I mean one of the possibilities is that the problem is already solved and it just takes a while for us to see it run through the system and what I mean by that is if the hydrochloric ween is is at least keeping people from having to be hospitalized and there's you know lots of anecdotal but not scientific evidence of that

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but not scientific evidence of that then maybe it's already solved because it's just a matter of supply and I got a I gotta believe that those are coming online pretty quickly probably the New York hospitals are already using it you know the the people that you're hearing they're dying today they're probably ones that we're maybe a little too far gone or maybe ones that would have died under almost any condition because they were that fragile but what you should see if the if the meds are working is that the death rate will stabilize even as the infection rate is climbing like crazy so that's what I'm predicting so I think we'll get we'll get through it and I think it will be less less than the worst case by far but we'll never know if it was because we stopped it it'll just drive us crazy forever all right thanks for the question thank you I'm starting to notice that people do not look like their icons Bella are you there do you have a question okay

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you there do you have a question okay what's your question can you hear me again okay cool so I'm a recent college grad and I'm just wondering now with like how the economy is going what kind of careers field should I go into because I'm a business student and I just have like a interview for a mortgage company for a sales job yeah and they we're really excited about me but they are holding off on the official offer letter because yeah they just don't know how things are not well you know I wish I could I wish I could tell you everything would be great in three months but there's pretty good chance that the people who did not already have jobs of course will be the last ones to go back to work because people will prefer to hire the people who are already there but I think you just have to hold it's probably you know trying to

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to hold it's probably you know trying to hold on through the summer and then a lot of stuff will start opening up it would be my guess you know subject lots of uncertainty but the best I can say maybe there's something you can do temporarily or part-time or something but that for the good jobs they're coming back it might be you three six months so you might have some waiting today I'm sorry that you have to that your timing was so mad although I suppose if you if you had gotten the job a week before you still lost this oh yeah wouldn't have ended up about the same all right well good luck for that and thank you for the question thank you yeah a lot of people getting worried I don't think anybody's gonna start but it's gonna get pretty tense all right I don't know how to pronounce your name is a tip cheer tip sure can you hear me do you have a question hello yes hey what's your question thanks a lot for taking the call I just wanna

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lot for taking the call I just wanna quickly say have been a big fan read all your books and thank you for doing these price cups they're the perfect combination of objective and subjective so that's been that's been very useful I'm a software engineer I woke up here in Montreal Quebec so we've been remote for two weeks everything shut down but funny enough we've been the most productive we've ever been so what would what would be your predictions on work from home policies after this - well you know you would think that people would say hey this work from home thing works so well that we just got to keep doing that but there there are a lot of obstacles to working to them one of them is that there might be other people home you know I've been working for home for around 20 years or whatever and if somebody else's home even though you're working it's really hard to convince

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working it's really hard to convince them that they shouldn't tell you about the dead animal that's in the swimming pool you know it's really hard to convince somebody who's not working it was in the same house that that suspicious smell needs to be investigated right now because the house might blow up it could be gas and you know and when other people are in your physical vicinity they just have a lot of emergencies you know nothing kind of where you're gonna die it necessarily but just a lot of stuff you gotta look into right away so you so in my case Christina is amazing about you know understanding that separation and stuff so I don't have any problem with her but a lot of people are gonna have that problem working at home it's kind of hard if somebody else is there especially if sometime it's kids so a lot of people are gonna be desperate to get back to work you know that there won't be that many people who said you know I'd like to do this everyday a lot of people don't like their commute but that's really different from wanting to be home all the time you know it's

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to be home all the time you know it's it's a good change of pace maybe once or twice a week so my guess is that and also managers are tend to be tyrants and so for their own little you know fiefdom they're gonna want to you to come in so that you're physically there so they have somebody to boss around and talk to so I think yeah I think humans being humans this may change things up to 20 percent meaning maybe there'll be twenty percent more telecommuting after this but I don't think it's a hundred percent you know maybe twenty percent that's my guess all right thanks for the question thank you
interesting question let's see if we can keep it going with Nils Nils Nils Nilsson Mills do you have a question for me
me Dill's are you washing the dishes get over here ask me more questions hello yes Nils what's your question well

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hello yes Nils what's your question well I tried to call you the other day and I
talked to you I was gonna be funny and disconnect you but I won't do that it would have been all right what's your questions I have to say Scott I've been following you for the last two years I've gone on my father into you and I have been living the golden life okay I swear I didn't do he just got disconnected I I promise you I did not do that but what's kind of perfect all right I have finals we'll have to try it again I swear to God I didn't do that you know even after I said it would be funny it looks like maybe I did but I didn't I

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what do you think will be the triggers that turned this whole thing around and we get back to a normal life well I said my greatest hope is that the meds keep you out of the hospital and if that's true people will take their chances with getting sick the other possibility is you know we find out that 80 percent or some huge number that the public already has it and then we'd say oh well if half of us had it we're closer to some kind of accidental of herd immunity immunity the other thing is the I think this is gonna be maybe the black what is it the underdog or the black horse or the Black Swan or something not the Black Swan but the thing you don't see coming but it's just sort of plotting along and it's that the blood serum stuff where the people who have already had it and recovered have the antibodies and you can isolate them and the serum and put it in another person and it gives them we think some immunity and if that one's always just sort of thrown in the list it's like oh this has happened this has

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it's like oh this has happened this has happened ventilators and pills and stuff and a blood serum thing but the question is is that the one that could ramp up the fastest because how many how many recovered people do you need and how much serum to get animam to handle how many people and how long does it take now under normal situation you wouldn't want a lot of healthy people going in and doing this weird blood sort of thing actually I don't even know if it's four before you get it to keep you from getting it or is it to help you after you've gotten it I think maybe both so we'll say you know it that would just keep plodding along without getting much attention but the math of it and the practicality of it suggests that we could scale it up so maybe that'll do things anyway those are the things three things I think are by far the most important and then the then also the cheap tests that you can do at home because if we could all cheaply and immediately test at home we'd have no problem tomorrow so any one of those things could end up

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any one of those things could end up being the thing but we probably have at least four things optimistically we might have at least four things that are the thing you know on top of the social isolation so I feel as though it's starting to look like a mismatch you know us versus the virus when it's been exactly the opposite till now I was still a mismatch so we're right on the cusp of having a real good visibility about these other tools and then we go on offense and then it gets fun not for the virus all right thanks for the question Nancy let's see how about patches patches I am adding you because your name is patches patches do you ever you have a question for me thanks I have two two things to talk about really quickly they're about the both of our lady to the other Trump pills and one of

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lady to the other Trump pills and one of them is basically China which I kind of go along with your theory that they're kind of evil and I think they're probably not announcing the pills because it allows them to continue to increase their control their society over there well there's actually maybe even another reason which is you know one of the studies that said the pills don't work and by the way the French study that said that they do people online are saying that's debunked I usually side with the debunkers if somebody says something's true and then somebody says that's not he's debunk if I don't know anything about it I usually side with the debunker the debunkers usually right not every time but there was one study and a singe one what University or something in China that indicated that the pills don't work but in the same article they said well but these this expensive drugs that are made in China wow they really work so you know you don't want to try these cheap ones that you can get anywhere probably don't work what you want is these really expensive

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what you want is these really expensive one so you can only get in in China so you can't really trust anybody at this point I thought were suspicious like it just wasn't contained by locking some doors to that point that they had something going on beyond just social distancing to hospitals yeah it to me it seems obvious that they had a they had some kind of therapeutic treatment that made a big difference but maybe we'll never know who knows right domestically I just was listening to I'm in Gainesville Florida listening to our local politicians talking today and a person called it like it's ready you know treatments or pills for this and their local medical people are like no we can just put you on respirators and do this and do that I'm liking is is this ignorance or is this more the wink-wink we're just not going to tell people we know how to do something about it every everything that's happening under the hood you know

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that's happening under the hood you know the people who are talking individually you know person-to-person suggest that the doctors are prescribing it and it works all of it 100% of the anecdotal again not scientific we all want a scientific study but 100% of the anecdotal from doctors is yeah we're giving it and it works but it's all on the down low because my point on this is that because it's on the down low there might be some people don't get the word and don't treat their patients as well as they could and there's people dying in this you know other hospitals because they don't understand there was a protocol they could do just no one's like come on say you try this yeah you know if you're talking about the the patient's they definitely might not be informed I think at this point there's probably no doctor in the country who's not informed on that probably every doctors informed in that I just feel like it 90% so it'd be not a big not a big girl

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90% so it'd be not a big not a big girl you've got more faith in that than I do maybe so alright thank you nicer questions yeah let's take at least one more let's see what David wants David's been waiting here patiently David David do you have a question for me David right when you were speaking about the premonition especially I think it was a shower faucet or the temperature gauge you just knew something was gonna break this is a question about kind of having premonitions then remember that it was in the shower or something was there not yeah yeah I had a long story about a broken shower that that I expected to break yeah I I have those quite frequently I've started to refer them to do them as memories of the future people like that that's awesome I was curious does I kinda have two questions has this ever

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kinda have two questions has this ever happened with Christina and do you think that's why you guys sort of came together and the second question if you don't answer the first one that's fine but the second was do you think with because I think you've influenced I mean thousands of people by now at getting better at understanding the system of reality of persuasion that we're in and how people use that skill do you think as part of the Golden Age if you will of our psyches people will become better at maybe getting premonitions or well no I'm you know I have fun talking about new agey stuff but you know fundamentally I wouldn't put money on any of it so I'm a deep rationalist at my core but it's really fun to talk about you the premonitions the simulation and affirmations and stuff and I don't have reasons for why some of these appear to be true or appear to work it could be an entirely psychological phenomenon confirmation

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psychological phenomenon confirmation bias but it doesn't make it any less fun yeah here's here's a thought experiment if I said to you tell you what I can make you think you're having an extraordinary life but in reality it won't be will you take the deal and you'll never know the difference they'll never be a time when somebody taps you on the shoulder says hey you're hypnotized you'll never know you'll just have a terrible life but you'll think it was great would you take the deal I would that that's your reality if you think it's great it's great so so at least that much I feel is objectively true you know you can you can change your filter on life and it effectively changes reality but beyond that anybody's guess fair enough as Christina had experiences real quick and I'll go Thanks I don't know if she's ever mentioned it so I couldn't say yes or no specifically I do know that when the first time I saw her

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know that when the first time I saw her my feeling was of seeing the future but you know you can't the thing you could never separate is whether you could have made something happen you know just because you wanted it so when I saw her it felt like seeing the future but it's also something I immediately was attracted to and you know put some effort into making it happen so I don't who knows it's all fun anyway all right thanks David let's do one more let's take you know I tried to guess based on the weird little icons that you have and half the time I can't even get your gender right but I think this is Jennifer good there are you do you have a question and in

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you do you have a question and in Donald's not taking care of this bill that the Congress is trying to pull off like with the whole country is so furious is there any chance you think he would do something and pick up this free money and and you know strip out some of that pork and well you know depending on what station you're listening to and who's talking these the bill is either a gigantic you know mistake in a hundred ways or it all makes sense if you just heard why so I've heard I've heard both versions of those of those but the one that maybe really sent me back is was listening to the president describing how good it was and he had a little context of each one and I thought oh it does have provisions so they're not going to do a stock buyback okay that was one of the things and and it and it seems aimed at keeping employees employed more than just

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employees employed more than just helping them and it's alone so they have to pay it back and as he's talking about it I kept I kept waiting for the things that I knew I was gonna hate and then he got he got to the was it the mat or what is it the Kennedy Center so he gets to the Kennedy Center I'm like okay okay he's just gonna go off on this he starts saying how he likes the Kennedy Center and he talked him down from 35 to 25 and a lot of people are employed they're like what am i watching now in that case in that case I'm pretty sure that was in and I think he actually said this that you know you got to do a little negotiating so I think he was that he was softening yet but it's obvious that wouldn't have been you know in his perfect bill so I guess what I listen to it the big stuff because even if you can hate the little Kennedy senator thing but it's not big compared to the rest of it and he actually had some reasons behind everything he mentioned and so I

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behind everything he mentioned and so I would say I'm I know 60% well informed about what's in there and the big stuff looked at least like it had some rationale you know I don't know if anybody's smart enough to know that this is the worst idea in the world or the best you know I always talked about the economy being a psychology engine and this is clearly a case of we're getting something done was more important way more important than getting it exactly right because you know you can always send down more money right but if do nothing everything's falling apart so they got the big thing right so the big thing was do something and make it a big number you've probably heard me talking early in the process people were talking about 1 billion and then at the high end people were saying or two trillion I mean one show leader to Jillian and I said from the start it's got to be 2 trillion and the reason it's got to be 2 trillion it's not because I'm a genius who knows what the budget needs to be to get the best result it's because the numbers out there as soon as the numbers

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numbers out there as soon as the numbers out there it's got to be the big one because this is a psychology play you want the country to say I didn't I didn't stop at anything you know I could have saved money but I'm not gonna save money to let one person die it's so as soon as the two trillion was out there it had to be 2 trillion because that's that's the psychology engine and how it works all right did I answer your question yeah and it real quick though I'm kind of curious why I was wondering why Donald Trump doesn't maybe have people from the military in his news conferences when I watched their briefings I feel so much better about what's going on and I thought he he did until recently right did he have a visit one of the members yeah I saw one guy in uniform but I just was kind of curious what you thought about the optics having him be a wartime well maybe yeah you know it's it's a careful balance because you don't want it to look to military because that's scary yeah you know some of the smartest people watching this have predicted that

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people watching this have predicted that the military would eventually you know be having to be playing an active role in within the country which would be scary even if they were doing even if they were doing everything right and they probably would write the military is very capable and so many ways just people the optics of it would be bad so it's ok to have one up there now and then but I think I'd rather vary civilian look just for the psychology of it again thanks for the questions thank you all right I think I'm gonna end it just about here yeah we've got the Navy medical ship that's gonna sail up there pretty soon and I don't know maybe we're getting a handle on this I think that news that comes out in the next two days is just going to be so important because you know we're gonna find out if the Hydrox chloroquine

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gonna find out if the Hydrox chloroquine works and that's going to be a real big day and if it doesn't and it might not you know president says that I say it often even though even though I'm very optimistic about it they say it often might not just can't tell but I I feel positive about it all right
why is ship going to California well there's one to California and one to the East Coast so I think they've got two of them and they put them where they expect the biggest problem all right that's all you have for now I will see you in the morning and I hope you have a terrific night everything's gonna be great