Episode 866 Scott Adams: Wrapped in a Blanket and Answering Your Questions

Date: 2020-03-23 | Duration: 51:19

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hey everybody come on in it's time for swaddled in a cloth blanket with Scott you know I just realized that the best time to do this in the evening if I'm gonna be doing two furs for the remainder of the grown virus crisis is I should do them at the same time am as p.m. 7:00 a.m. 7:00 p.m. on the East Coast that's tennen I'm sorry on the west coast on the east coast that's Ted intent so I don't know if I'll actually do that but maybe I will so how's everybody doing doing okay in your isolation I'm getting a little bit squirrely I'm not gonna lie the only people I've talked to who are not on video seem to me my dog in my cat who as it turns out are brilliant and conversationalist so not nearly as bad as your thoughts all right don't complain what Sun FoxNews counter-programming me there's always

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counter-programming me there's always got to be something on there all right so I've got some questions as / assignments for you meaning if anybody knows the answer this question it would be really really good to tell me or tell the world I suppose and the first question is this we've we've got good feelings about this hi drew hydroxychloroquine and as if through Meissen so much so that Governor Cuomo is going to be testing some starting Tuesday so they'll start a test at New York on that drug now here's the question my understanding is we probably don't have enough of it if it turns out to be as good as we think that that feels safe to say but as the is the bottleneck in the the raw materials you know is there a certain chemical or chemicals they have to be mixed together to make this thing is it is that the raw materials that are

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is it is that the raw materials that are lacking or is it the actual construction of the pill and then the shipping of it so I'd like to know the answer that because there's there's a really interesting idea floating around that I don't want to tell you because people are working on it but I'd you know it's just not my business to get you excited about it but if you can tell me if the bottleneck is in the materials or the actual construction of the pill I might have something interesting to tell you all right your second assignment is a question was asked on Twitter that I don't know the answer to and so that's what I'll ask you for if you can find an expert to tweet at me and just answer this question it was a very interesting question that was if we know how long the coronavirus can last on that different types of surfaces its whatever number of days depending on the surface

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number of days depending on the surface why can't we just take the n95 masks after using them once stick them in a paper bag put it on the shelf and then just use it together in a week because wouldn't everything that could be on it just die because it's dry you know presumably it would be dry fairly quickly and nothing can live a week and and there's nothing that would degrade in the composition of the mask so that was the question please do not take that as a statement of some kind of quackery coming from the cartoon this guy I don't have an independent opinion of whether that's a good or a bad idea I will say this I did talk to somebody who directly know is very well somebody who's in the business so there's somebody who's you know in the business and making these masks at this moment and this is what the person who's making the masks who has you know some scientific and

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has you know some scientific and engineering background to make the statement and this is an exact quote all right so I got back this this quote now again do not take this as my opinion and do not take this as true it's a question you know if there's somebody who could add something to this does this make sense is it crazy so this is what is the response back from somebody who doesn't know what they're talking about quote I would not recommend reusing display disposable gloves so that's important right don't don't try to reuse disposable gloves they're high contact surfaces but certainly face shields and masks can be reused this is somebody else's opinion after spraying them or wiping them down on both inside and outside surfaces with a disinfectant and allowing them to dry the exception would be if you know you came in contact with a confirmed case well maybe you want to throw that one

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well maybe you want to throw that one away but if you might see several customers that you know are patients that are not confirmed this one individual subject to your fact checking and getting confirming or debunking opinions seems to think this would work now the question I asked is well if disinfectant is also in short supply what's wrong with the first idea I've just letting it age a week now you'd have to wait longer I imagine you know just spraying them with disinfectant and then allowing didn't to dry yeah does that kill everything I don't know but it seems like waiting a week would right yeah is ready I mean you can just add days until you're happy it's a hundred percent effective is it two weeks I mean we're still going to be in trouble in two weeks so that would be better than nothing someone else asks this sort of a follow-up question on the same topic the

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follow-up question on the same topic the corona virus becomes deactivated at a certain temperature so somebody saying 120 degrees I've heard honored in 33 but somewhere in that range 120 833 degrees the virus breaks down but can you heat the masks to that temperature without degrading the mask and one person and I don't know what background they have I'm just going to say that the question is out there so this is not a statement it's still the form of a question and somebody says that they would maintain 95% of efficacy if you heated them to 160 and the hospital laundry dryers will reach that temperature so I have a hard time believing it would be that easy don't you if you could just throw them in the dryer and you know running for 10

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dryer and you know running for 10 minutes on the heat cycle and they're all sterilized but they're you know just because we went through the dryer it might be a little less no I guess no you say you same still 95 percent so that would be the same as it was so could it really be that easy that doesn't sound right you know so with that without the benefit of any scientific insight into this question it feels a little too easy doesn't it no you just throw them in the dryer problem solved you know you'll be good to go in 15 minutes that just doesn't sound right but I'd like you to see a an expert opinion on that so those are the three situations one is heat one is using a disinfectant and just wait until they dry and oh and by the way this is not this is not assumed to work on every type of mask so the other caveat I should have said is that it was sort of depend on the masks and I don't know exactly if we can tell which are the ones that it works on but but

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the ones that it works on but but there's some thinking it would depend on the masks so there's that there is a website now that brands itself as a medical equipment Clearing House because if you saw the you saw the experts talking you know that one of the big problems is there are plenty of people volunteering to make stuff but they're also plenty of frauds and middlemen trying to you know price gouge and you got to weed them out and then you've got people who want to buy them so you got lots of buyers you got lots of people who said you know if I can find a buyer I'll whip up a factory and start making them tomorrow so you need to match them so allegedly and here's my assumption so when when the need became obvious to a lot of people that there needed to be some kind of a website so people can find you know the the sources of the buyers can find each other I'm sure that more than one entity just got busy of bill one so I

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entity just got busy of bill one so I don't know that this is the one but it's the one that I'd know of so if there's another one out there or tweet at me if there's some competing one that does the same thing and the website the URL is project m95 as an ninety five max project n95 dot-com so check that out so if you're if you think you make something and you're looking for a buyer I guess that's the place to try to make connection alright I see somebody asking about UV light and we see this question all over I've got to guess based on just a little bit of skimming I did on the topic that there may be some specific cases where UV light is better than nothing but I don't know that we could get enough of them and that they're the right thing for these particular uses you know do they do they penetrate surfaces what if what if there are different conditions so while I believe it is well known that

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so while I believe it is well known that the UV light kills virus what is unknown to me is if there are certain situations where using it makes sense and then others where it just doesn't make sense so I wouldn't know enough about that
Bobbo just looking at just looking at your yeah a lot of people have volunteered to make masks all right so if you look at some of my questions that came to be on Twitter Robert Barr and says what what if the Black Swan event for those of you don't know that term one event is the the once you know once every hundred years or the the most unexpected thing and it's big and it changes everything so that's let's call the Black Swan and what does the Black Swan is event is the panic from the pandemic rather than the pandemic itself well I'm not sure I've seen something I would call panic yeah I suppose that's a

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would call panic yeah I suppose that's a matter of definition but I've seen people taking care of their families I've seen people hoarding but you know mostly people acting rationally and just want to get through it so certainly people's nerves are frayed etc but it's not really panic panic yeah this isn't that kind of panic so you know I guess the question would be whether closing down the economy it's a real question not the state of mind but rather they you know what do you do about it and I'll say it again the most likely outcome is that things get darker and darker until it looks like my god we can't go one more day without opening up and if by then we have more tests or more drugs that work will make the decision to open up so I don't think there's much risk that there's some point of no return for the economy and you'll go past it I don't think that's

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you'll go past it I don't think that's the thing because we would be so it would be so obvious that we're at that point that some adult this decision would be made which is alright some of you may be only the ones were young maybe only the ones who have already had it and recovered maybe only the ones who have good meds that work that like the assuming they do work but you can see some kind of a surge surge in returns well before the economy breaks somebody says more movie recommendations please yeah you know I'm not a movie guy and I've only watched one movie this year because movies are no longer a form that I enjoy there's just too long and there self-congratulatory and you know all the use it's just not a good art form anymore sort of ruined itself but if you want to laugh go to youtube and

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if you want to laugh go to youtube and start looking for stand-up comedians that are to your liking you might have to you know knock around a little bit but depending on how dark your humor is you'll you can you can laugh for a long time so bill burr is good I was just watching at norm ik Donald he's great you know just just go google around some stand-up comedians you'll get just tons of stuff and it's terrific when is America going back to work well I think we all know a lot in two weeks so the New York trial of the Hydra chloroquine I think personally that is my that's the main variable I'm tracking then let me let me give you some variables to track for your own predictive abilities all right because remember you somebody's saying that Giselle Nick he's very dark but very funny dave chappelle of course Jim Gaffigan

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dave chappelle of course Jim Gaffigan Jim Gaffigan is just the funniest person ever so you see some good recommendations going by and that under comments what was I talking about I don't know so yeah it's all oh here's here's the things you should look for this these are sort of the the dogs that don't bark sort of thing we're going to be focused on whatever shiny object the news is pointing us to in social media but let me point it to you something that you haven't heard very ready track the number of frontline health care workers that especially the younger ones who die in the next two weeks from catching something while they're working and then things just worsen and they they died now if it happened today

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they died now if it happened today for example if if if even one doctor or one nurse had had caught it from somebody and died today what do we know it and maybe baby happened and I missed it so watch the health care workers themselves and see if their mortality rate approaches zero because that's my prediction has anybody mentioned that yeah I think I'll be the first person who said this to you to watch that variable watch that variable and here's why if there's a shortage of the hydrochloric wean and if they know it works who has it the the frontline doctors right now at the very least they would take you quickly if they saw symptoms which means they would be first to get this drug that we're still wondering

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this drug that we're still wondering doesn't work is it safe if you hear that zero doctors and frontline medical staff and have died but you do hear that people got it at some point you're gonna have to ask yourself why you have zero mortality among that group and I think the answer is going to be that they have access to the hydrochloric wean now if if tomorrow you hear of some tragic death then then take that as you know counter data and if that if you see another one well then you know this is falling apart pretty quickly but if you just don't hear it for a week that might be a pretty good drunk right so here's here's a prediction I'm gonna make there will be no important like a like a senator that you know Rand Paul unfortunately tested positive and we of

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unfortunately tested positive and we of course wish him the best now he's young enough and one assumes that you know he would be in front of the line for getting some some meds that are in short supply I hope so I mean I don't want to be the the person who says oh why did the politicians get it first now they work for us we need Rand Paul to be healthy if it's a choice between I get the meds or Rand Paul gets the meds I'll give it to him because he's you know he's got a higher leverage in the emergency so I would think Rand Paul the other senators who actually test positive if any of them do I think they'll get the drug so here's my prediction you're just not gonna see a celebrity death unless it's somebody who's you know eighty-five years old but your prediction from this point on you will not see a famous politician rich person frontline medical person

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person frontline medical person celebrity basically make your own list if anybody you think already has access to the limited supply and in your mind say okay if anybody that I think has access to that limited supply if one of them dies and they're 45 and there's there's no underlying conditions panic now don't panic for the first one but I mean if you saw a trend developing there then then maybe you should be concerned about it but I'm just gonna put that out there that's that's the one variable that matters the most to me because it's the canary in the coal mine it's the one that's going to tell you that maybe there's something there which we don't know yet all right I don't know exactly what's going on in Congress but I know the solution a lot of light so whatever the somebody's saying Harvey

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so whatever the somebody's saying Harvey Weinstein yeah I don't just don't know if the Harvey Weinstein thing is true I think that's a wait-and-see because I think it was one sketchy source for it and
and and would anybody know and who knows
sooo it doesn't look like Congress's doing their job in the sense that if they can't get legislation passed today because they're arguing about the way to do it and I don't I'm not sure I have an opinion because I haven't looked at the details yet but if any this money is being funneled through companies the public is going to be pretty angry they're there of course will be the controversy of you know if we're saving hotels what does that mean for the Trump hotels and I think I'm gonna side with the President on this surprised I have incited with him on everything but I sort of not even evolved of the crisis I haven't but I think it would not be

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haven't but I think it would not be right to exclude the president's hotels if if like hotels you know if hotels in general are going to be rescued there are a lot of employment involved yeah it's one of our biggest businesses I don't know I think I'd be I'd be a little bit flexible on that you know it would be easy to imagine a million ways that that looks wrong is wrong could be wrong but I don't know if they get treated you know if Don juniors running the company and they get treated the way hire gets treated the way I'm not sure if there was exactly comparable but if they get treated like their peers I'm actually completely okay with it it would be more of a question about whether the whole industry is is to be thing but you know I certainly wouldn't be fair to exclude somebody for that reason do you think we could build uv-light tunnels to disinfect faster sure not exactly the engineer to ask

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sure not exactly the engineer to ask that question so I'll just say yeah why not no I have no idea if that would work all right Colorado governor wants citizens to run slash walk less and ration their time outside what why would you ration your time outside certainly it might make sense to stay away from other people but why would you ration your time outside I don't even understand that oh I don't even know if it's true so ignore that do you think we need to cure TDS before we cure the wuhan virus well I I I'm just gonna take a vacation from that question if you don't mind you know nobody likes talking about TDs and who did what dumb in politics than I do but I don't really have the appetite for it right now they just don't have that I don't have the stomach for the the small stuff at the moment Jennifer says how

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stuff at the moment Jennifer says how bad is this going to be I have a bad feeling they aren't telling us the worst FEMA guy today was or was not reassuring how bad is it going to be well here's the thing it will only be as bad for for the the bulk of society as we collectively are willing to let it be so the government can tell us to stay home what I think you'd agree there's some point where we're just not going to and I feel like the government knows that too don't you you know there's citizens are doing a fairly good job of doing what the government is asking for the greater good you know there's there some young people were ignoring everything of course we're doing a pretty good job but now take that or a month from now right in a month if you're if you've saved

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in a month if you're if you've saved some old people but you don't know which ones you know it's not like they had names said oh you saved Bob you just know that nobody died you're not as many people died as could have and I don't know if we could last more than a month even if our government said you got to do it you know we're gonna send the police around there are a lot of us there are a lot of lot of citizens you know there wouldn't be enough police and I don't think the police would have the appetite to lock you up for opening your business if you can't pay the bills so I think there's there's sort of a magic psychological deadline that feels like one month including including the time that we've already been locked down it feels like that's that's just gonna be you know a make-or-break point because people tend to think in terms of these simple increments of time like a week or a month a week we can handle we

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week or a month a week we can handle we know we can handle a week right there's no question about that we just did it two weeks yeah we can handle two weeks we can handle two weeks and bounce back if that's all it were three weeks absolutely it's gonna get a little harder but yeah we could do three weeks four weeks well you're going to start getting defectors at about the fourth week and after the fourth week the public is gonna say look you know who's vulnerable it's grandma it's your job to hide grandma and from this day forward it's my job to go to work and I don't care what the government tells me I'm going to work we're gonna hide grandma nowhere you get through this so there's there's a point your work where citizens would disobey yeah but I don't think you're gonna get into that you know there well obviously there will always be some some people are dissipating anything but I think

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are dissipating anything but I think that it will be obvious to all of us what is too long by American standards of you know how much we want to protect each other versus how much risk do we want to take versus you know what's good for the economy versus saving a few lives I feel like the American I don't know just just the way we are the American nature might put up with a month but man that's going to be tough after that so and I don't think we will have to after a month I think we'll have enough of a handle on the testing kits and the who you know who's susceptible and the meds and stuff then we'll start taking taking some chances in a month but probably something like that I think in two weeks we'll know what it looks like but we won't be able to execute yet so I think in two weeks we'll know what our tools are we'll know what the plan looks like we'll have a better idea how to get out but it's not going to be in two weeks probably how quickly will we know if the

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probably how quickly will we know if the the beds are effective my understanding is it's sort of a several day thing yeah I think something like a a one week and you're you could be pretty confident not that they're completely cleared but that it's working and and indeed I think after three or four days you you know you probably would know it's working on most people New York's worse than the rest of the country why I talked about that they just have different conditions more crowding more international travel you know more you know just more people they have more of everything except old people but that's the good news
okay ray is asking about past reuse I talked about that what do you think about that it predicts a quicker

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about that it predicts a quicker recovery so there's somebody who Nobel laureate who is predicting a quicker recovery let me let me see if the whole story's in the headline and then somebody says we're gonna be fine we could get through the worst of it she just okay she doesn't really have a she doesn't have an appointee of you other than she's looking at the same data we are and saying find totally unrelated question to anything was it fun to be on Babylon 5 so some of you know there was an old TV show sci-fi called Babylon 5 and I had a guest role with out of two lines or three lines or something because I had said something good about the show when I was you know at the height of my Dilbert Fame so they invited me to be on the show and and just play myself and have a few lines so the question was was it fun yeah it was really fun it was really fun because I got to hang out with the cast and I was you know as a

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with the cast and I was you know as a huge fan so I just get to you know sit down at lunch and all all of the cast of the shower were like sitting with me at the table it's just the coolest thing of the world I could not have I couldn't have to geek down harder than that and they're all friendly you know everybody's chatted with me and stuff and it just blew me away because there were even in costumes all right um how long do you think we can sustain well most of the questions are all about how long and I think I've answered that will this pandemic be looked on as the most significant event in world history since world war ii well it depends kind of depends doesn't it depends how big against how long it lasts I've I've suggested that for any young children that this is their 911 this is their Pearl Harbor so certainly the kids who are going through this it might be like

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are going through this it might be like a formative experience for those of us who are older we've gone through you know we've had a few of these okay if you 911 now this so we've had a little more experience as seeing things get really dark before they get better so I think we have a little more yeah I'd be interested if people my age are generally less worried that would be a good and interesting poll with it you know by age how worried are you that's probably as more to do with your specific situation but I wonder if people have just been here before and I feel I have I mean to me this all looks familiar even though every part of it is new you know there's nothing like this that's ever happened before and it still feels familiar because that the feeling that oh we humans how are we ever going to beat this monster how will we ever beat the year 2000 vote you know how will we do it how and then we do it time after time after time

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we do it time after time after time we'll never solve this bra bulge already ok there's pretty sure that would never be solved do you think the stock market recovery will be graduated or spiky I think it will be super spiky and trend up but probably not until we hear some good news and of New York meaning the drug trial they're doing all right doctors are stockpiling something yeah I don't want to give any any hints to somebody who might try to become a hoarder I don't want to do that well skills and projects do you think knowledge workers could look to focus on during the isolation well I would say it depends on the your existing talent stack and your ambitions so look at what you already are good at and then say what's the most valuable thing I could add to that and it might not even be

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add to that and it might not even be technical it could be well it could be it could be you know graphic design for example graphic design goes really well with technical skills because at some point you're gonna have to design the part that people look at it and the buttons on the user interface does Trump Trump win re-election you know if you just straight lined it from here it yes but of course it will change so I tweeted today I think I mentioned this that the Joe Biden thing is well beyond being funny it's just not funny anymore and you know everyone's a while I still laugh at it because it's like but this this emergency has also reminded us that it's good to have backup plans right now if something happen to trump wallies in office the back-up plan is Mike Pence and I'm perfectly happy with

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Mike Pence and I'm perfectly happy with that as a you know a solid spare tire you know I probably I don't forget vote for him if he ran for president but Mike Pence knows where all the all the jewelry is captain where all the buttons are and he's not going to go nuts so so we've we've got to back up in that situation but what's our backup if between now and November something happens because it's a very uncertain time either it's bad news or whatever it is and and Trump can't win reelection for whatever reason we'd have to imagine something new comes out of this just so far you would you would win but suppose that happens who's our backup well the backup is whoever he's running against and it looks like that's going to be Joe Biden is that really a back-up plan yes sir is there any Democrat who has watched him basically hiding because and there can't be any other reason he's hiding that he's not capable can we agree on that can we agree there's no

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agree on that can we agree there's no reason in the world that we're now seeing him every day at least on video except that he's not up to it right okay can anybody suggest any alternate explanation and the longer that goes on the more obvious it should be even to his supporters I would think so they may be starting to come around so I wouldn't mind having a backup I wouldn't mind having a Democrat that you know maybe is not your first choice but they're not gonna break anything you know they're not not brain-dead so let's get that so that's a call to Democrats to maybe make the adult decision there
let's see - to his old Funky Junk asked me this question what's this Covent thing I saw today on the TV

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was Trump mocking Romney yeah looked like that so Trump actually made a Kuroda if I was a coronavirus insult to Mitt Romney because Mitt Romney is Quarantine a guy I mean I hope he's fine you know I'm sure no matter what you think of him I think we all hope that he does well and you know there's no bad outcome there but the Trump actually he says oh that's too bad that's just so terrible that's funny all right and by the way I don't think that was smart like that that wasn't his best move you know normally I love his put-downs of his insults is just part of the act and it's very effective and I'm sort of a fan of the act well I don't think that was the place yeah I think it I think if he watched it on replay he might take it back he probably knows that I don't have to tell him that I think he knows that so it wasn't wasn't the time but on the other hand you know

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the time but on the other hand you know if you're a trump supporter yes or die have to accept that it's a package deal you know I I could wish all day long that he wouldn't do that sort of thing but he's gonna do it so I'm not gonna spend a lot of time wishing he doesn't do it because he's gonna do it and in a sublevel I kind of love that about him that he's so committed to it but yeah at the same time I could say had been not so good that time how's my friend progressing on his treatment better so for two days in a row the symptoms are noticeably improving after several days of getting worse and being really quite bad so pretty much immediately upon taking the drugs he he tap he capped out and he's substantially

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tap he capped out and he's substantially better I don't know how many more days before you get to all better but substantially better how many folks have died of seasonal flu this year says I guess a Chinese bot because if you're still asking that question you're really not paying attention we're all smart enough not to compare it to the regular flu right don't we pass that all right are we past that and I'll say again because I you see the doubters out there saying hey if the statistics don't suggest that this will be bad at all why are we closing everything and the question that has to be asked as I said this morning look at the hospitals yeah if the hospitals do not go over capacity I'm with you the moment we can be sure the hospitals will not be over capacity let's start getting back getting back to work but they they very quickly reach capacity and the

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very quickly reach capacity and the professionals at those hospitals think that it will be exceeded what if they're all wrong is that even possible yeah well I mean it's possible for people to be wrong but people are so skeptical of all experts right now that people are actually asking what if the whole thing is just nothing what if it's all just bass hysteria and the only problem is the panic itself to which I say the hospitals are either full of patients and more coming every day or that's not happening you can ignore every other question and just say is that happening yes no hospitals filling up wherever there are outbreaks yes can you build them fast enough to keep up no is that a gigantic problem yeah so that's why the economy is closed can phones pinging each other where we are social distance to close when you push a

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social distance to close when you push a button say it's okay family member yeah so that you could be close to a family member I don't know does your bluetooth allow you to tell the distance is that a thing I suppose I mean if you could somehow bluetooth send somebody and
and there was six feet maybe maybe that's the thing I'd have to ask somebody else
what about the Italian Italy that 3% infection rate in late February why did it spread so fast there well we don't know but it might have to do with people who live with their grandparents and small non-air-conditioned spaces and a lot of you know physicality and kissing on the cheek and stuff so it could be just as simple as living style it could be the way they count we don't know where it'll take a while to find out see what else do you support

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to find out see what else do you support a ubi during the economic downturn yes yes if so if somebody has a better idea now somebody who doesn't have money can eat and at least pay for the essentials if you get a better idea I'm certainly open to it but what's a better idea then all right here's some cash yeah see if it can hold you over yeah we we have to work out the details but I don't see here's what I think is probably the mistake we have to keep businesses afloat kind of have to do it because I support a lot of people too so there's probably no solution in which some big businesses you wish had not been bailed out we're gonna get bailed out it's probably just going to happen but maybe that should be separated from the ubi decision so maybe that's what they're doing all right what is going to happen to mortgages after three months of quarantined well you know I've seen the idea floated and

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you know I've seen the idea floated and I haven't spent enough time to sort of think it through to know whether I like it or not the idea is that we just suspend all of those payments just nobody pays anybody for for only these categories so you can imagine that just nobody pays there you know we heat utility Comcast bill cellphone mortgage rent maybe I know healthcare if you're paying for yourself so you could easily imagine that people would just stop paying for the duration of this and get a thousand dollars from the government and they'd buy food and they're just sort of not paying any bills you're not driving anywhere you're not going on a vacation so we're living kind of cheaply watching TV and looking at our phones for a few weeks so I don't see any way you could get around a ubi it's just how do you do it

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what straw planning to do student loans you says there's more than 60 days interest-free well you know that's pretty good better than nothing and he convinced some of you know that this is a big deal that they need to maintain distance from others yeah here's the problem and it's it's very much like the gun debate I think I'm the only one who frames it this way the gun debate is not whether guns are good or guns are bad we just act like it is the real debate is that maybe a gun is good for me because of my special situation you know I might get more of a stalkers so in my case owning a gun might make me safer but at the very least this should be up to me to decide that right so I'm Pro Second Amendment but it is nonetheless true that there are people who probably are less safe because they live in an area where guns are plentiful so who gets the wind do I get to win

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so who gets the wind do I get to win because the gun would make me safer or does somebody else get to win because the guns make them less safe and they're not going to own one of their own for whatever reason so they just don't want them around it's it's not what's good for people it's not really constitutional we just pretend it is basically people have different preferences different needs different risk profiles and they're just acting rationally for their own risk profile I mean if you just like shooting and hunting and you know you like guns well it's pretty easy to convince yourself that they can't be pried into your cold dead hands and you support the Constitution and if it's the opposite you're don't like guns you don't want to be around them you're not gonna hunt they're only bad for you you're gonna make up some argument why that's your side needs to win in it's really just an expression of self-interest that we dress up in these constitutional you know life-and-death kinds of answers so I think I was gonna

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kinds of answers so I think I was gonna make a ya know so the analogy to that to the coronavirus is that we have different risk profiles so the people that you can't convince to take you seriously also for the most part no it's not going to kill them they just think you'll kill other people so if they act dumb that's probably an act it's more like they're acting selfish and they don't want to admit that that's all that's going on it's like well I really want to go to the bar and I know it might kill your grandma but I really like going to the bar and I don't know your grandmother that well and if you don't think that they're making that exact calculation you've not met people because they're making that exact calculation exactly like I said it you know I could save your grandmother by not going to the bar but I like the bar I don't know your grandmother never

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I don't know your grandmother never better so some people are now so good I think we can conclude that completely all right well we're seeing all kinds of people invent things and we're seeing human ingenuity in ways that we've never seen it we're seeing some amazing things happening we can see ourselves we can see ourselves getting stronger smarter a little less political still they're still there but we're less political this week kind of feels good I got to say at least that level so we are gonna be okay we're not going to run out of food because you can't hoard broccoli right what would be the point of hoarding something that's just gonna rot if you don't eat it all yourself so you're not gonna run into food and my

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you're not gonna run into food and my guess is if you just don't pay your bills your the people you owe those bills are gonna have to work it out they're gonna have to work it out with you they're gonna have to extend it they're gonna have to get something from the government so I don't think there will be a time when somebody can't eat or have you know the basic essentials I don't I don't say that that's a real risk yeah except that little pockets you know you might need to help your neighbor a little bit but basically we have enough to go around and that will continue to be the case something wrong with the China stats how did they get to know new cases here's my theory on China just speculation my theory is that they do have new cases and they treat them with the meds that we're testing and it reduces the risk of dying too so close to zero that they just probably decided

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to zero that they just probably decided to you know you know if people die everybody's gonna notice because there'll be a lot of death use it's hard to hide people dying even in China but if they don't die and let's say we got 20 of them a day maybe we could just give them the the meds they won't die we'll just not talk about it see how tomorrow looks so again it's just speculation but if I had to guess a lot of our mysteries about you know why does Trump seem to have a different opinion than foul Qi you know why is it that we're not saying you know not saying a frontline medical people dropping dead even and when they're infected yeah in May and why they're the China numbers mysteriously down in a way that doesn't make sense to us it might all be the same reason that there's a there's a med that works and all everybody is responding to it that

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all everybody is responding to it that plus the factors are sorted by shortage
so they're using that somebody says that if you don't have taste or smell that's a that's bad for me because I haven't had my taste or smell too much well we know more about virus than we ever have in history yeah you know I've got a feeling that our tool box for beating viruses is going to be really good yeah the number of people walking dogs is off the hook you know I went for my healthy evening walk today and man there are a lot of people out there walking around and and we're all we're all giving each other you know 20 feet crossing the road it's it's fun are you allergic to cats I'm not where can I get a local girl go

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I'm not where can I get a local girl go for social distancing book autographed that's actually a pretty creative idea so did you see that what Next Door is doing the app talked about a great reaction to an emergency so the next door app allows you to see a map of where you are and then if anybody has signed up to to help out and elderly or do some shopping they show up on the map so you can see exactly where they are so you can see your house and you're like Oh block over there there's a there's that the 20 year old girl got sent home from college and she's gonna go do some shopping for you and and I looked just to see if anybody in my neighborhood had actually signed up to do those things and there were two of them two of them just really close so what a terrific tool I mean with this tool alone so if you're worried about going hungry or whatever imagine you've got this tool and either you're the elderly person who just you know I don't

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elderly person who just you know I don't know you ran out of food or you just need something now you just put it on the app and you just your deluge dwith neighbor saying I'll take care of that I've seen that happen all right that's all for now I will see you in the morning have a great day sleep I think next week this this coming week could be a lot of good news a lot of bad news too the number of infected will go up but watch for the number of deaths to start plunging and that's your tell that we're going to get back to work before things you know go off the rails so you're going to be alright hang in there talk to you tomorrow