Episode 835 Scott Adams: HOAX8, Travel Restrictions, Large Gatherings, Peace in Afghanistan

Date: 2020-02-29 | Duration: 58:56

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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a Coronavirus impact on stock market, kids in school, immigration Coronavirus in Mexico Chris Matthews blind spot and Laura Bassett Political “tribes” filter, the likely Democrat candidate Bill Kristol is promoting HOAX #8

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hey everybody it's good to see you yes it's time for another edition of coffee with Scott Adams and we're going to feature the simultaneous sip at a moment as people are screaming in oh I think it's already time DJ dr. fump juice good to see you again and for the rest of you I know what you want grab your materials all you need there's a cover of Margaret last at anchor chalice or Stein the canteen jug of flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine the end of the day the thing that makes everything better I mean everything everything except the coronavirus and we haven't really tested it on that it might cure it worth a try go I'm so happy I can hardly contain

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go I'm so happy I can hardly contain myself today as you know I've been in screaming pain for about two weeks at least a few hours a day every day but I just got on some prednisone and some other antibiotics and I woke up feeling good for the first time in weeks do you know how good it feels to feel good I'll bet you do have you ever been sick and then there's that first day when you're not sick anymore oh my goodness feels so good feels so good so if I seem extra happy today that's why well speaking of happiness let's talk about the opposite now normally I don't like to spend a lot of time of these periscopes talking about stuff that isn't fun but you can't really ignore the coronavirus the coronavirus has its own agenda apparently and so here are some stats

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apparently and so here are some stats from the news eighty-five thousand people or confirmed what does that mean if eighty-five thousand people are confirmed to have it and it's highly viral how many people have it what do you think is that multiplier on that of known to unknown cases does anybody know I don't think anybody knows right because we're finding these cases now that no one's seem connected to anybody else who hasn't now of course they must be but we can't figure out how so there's that I'm going to get to some good news so if you're waiting for some optimism it's coming I'm just giving you some stats so the deaths toll toll stands at over 2900 it's a writ the risk of global spread is quote very high according to w-h-o who

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we're seeing cases of Mexico well that's going to get interesting we'll talk about that people were US citizens are urged not to travel to Italy unless it's essential the South Korea has 3000 cases Italy is around 50,000 in quarantine schools across Japan are closing and I think in France they just announced that no gatherings more than 5,000 people 5,000 people will be allowed so and you can see that the stock market is basically pricing in a zombie apocalypse
so there there are two things which you can have become separated at this point one is the effects of the coronavirus psychologically and eken luckily because those are the same the economy is really a psychology machine and right now it's broken so that the the machine of the economy is broken

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the machine of the economy is broken just the psychology that drives it is currently degraded because people are worried rightfully worried but maybe a little too much so I'm going to give you my predictions you ready goes like this I think the stock market is most likely to suffer for about a year could be 2 could be 3 could be 6 months now I'm going to pick a midpoint I think about a year and by that I mean all of the other fundamentals are pretty good pretty good so when things come back they'll probably come back pretty quickly but I think we have about a year of worry certainly they'll it's more than worried because supply chains are being disrupted etc so if you're a investor I would say that selling your stocks now might be the very worst thing you could do no I don't give financial advice on

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do no I don't give financial advice on here so do not take and the investment advice from cartoonists but the stock market is a weird kind of investment because as one quality that a lot of other investments don't have which is if your money ever went to zero in the stock market let's say you've got a diversified portfolio you didn't you didn't do something stupid and buy individual companies but you you bought a diversified portfolio which you should do if you've done that the odds of that ever going to zero well very low but if it did money wouldn't be worth anything so it wouldn't matter where else you had your money if the if the stock market ever went to zero nobody would have money that would be the end of the economy the end of civilization now that's not true of other investments you could buy a house which most people consider a good investment right but your house could burn down and you forgot to put insurance on it you can your job and the bank takes that etc so

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your job and the bank takes that etc so if you're looking at one individual thing you could lose it all but you don't really have that same kind of risk with the stock market because if you were to lose it all in the stock market it means that no matter where else your money was it's gone you know there won't be the banks if the stock market went to zero there would be no banks and your cash would be worthless the government would be defunct and all that so getting out of a a long-term risky investment sometimes makes sense getting an of investment whose risk is identical to the risk of civilization itself doesn't make sense so so if you're a long-term holder this would be a good time to remind yourself why you're a long-term holder of stocks I will tell you my personal strategy my personal strategy is that I'm actually worried that the stock market will

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worried that the stock market will recover too much on Monday because I want to buy so I'm a buyer at this price if the stock market goes up 5% tomorrow maybe yes maybe no I mean on Monday if it goes up 5% if it goes down 10% maybe I'll wait maybe I'll wait see if it finds a little temporary bottom but I'm gonna wait for the downward pressure to sort of plateau a little bit if it looks like the downward pressure is slowing on Monday I'll probably put every penny I have excess into the market I can't imagine there would be a better time to buy now that's not stock advice you really really should not take advice from the individuals unless they're telling you to diversify everything else is just BS but the stock market is generally considered it's wise to buy and hold for long term alright here's

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and hold for long term alright here's what I predict for the coronavirus itself and this is related to my stock market prediction and I think this is compound was what dr. drew tweeted yesterday I believe and I was kind of somebody says stop giving advice where are you you're listening to the part where I said I'm not giving advice all right you get blocked for not hearing me say I'm not giving advice on socks so dr. drew tweeted basically a lot of people are going to get the the coronavirus and for the most part be mild most people who get it will have something like a cold and then when it's over probably can't get it again we're seeing some reports of people being reinfected but I think those are unreliable it seems to me unlikely that you could be reinfected like why would this be the the one kind

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like why would this be the the one kind of virus cold situation where you get it more than once so I'm not buying I'm not gonna buy the idea that you can get reinfected yet I'm watching for that I mean if that's the case I'd be 10 times more worried but I suspect it's not the case we'll see so the dr. drew approach is that it's covered a lot of you are gonna get it maybe all of us maybe every single one of us will get it it won't be that big a deal now when I say it won't be that big a deal if you're one of the 2% of the people who die from it that's a pretty big deal but for most of you you probably won't notice so keep that in mind so and the other thing that you have to get accustomed to is what I call the this is my mother's theory that you can get used to anything if you do it long enough including hanging so she

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long enough including hanging so she used to point out that even if things were bothering you you didn't probably get used to it and the coronavirus because it's you know new and different and most of us alive have not gone through a pandemic it feels not normal it feels like a big scary thing but check back in six months in six months I'm not even sure it'll be a headline but it will probably be ten times bigger because there'll be just tons of people who have it now I think we're gonna get a lot smarter and we're gonna get a lot smarter fairly quick not only about testing for it but maybe in a year or so we'll have a vaccine etc so we're gonna get smart quick one of the things that have all tweeted maybe yesterday maybe today it's new so evolve account we're saying that we should get better data and who's getting it and who's not actually Balaji Srinivasan was

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who's not actually Balaji Srinivasan was talking about getting better data on the genetics of the people who were having a tough time with the virus versus those who are not because if there's some correlation and Balaji notes that the odds of finding that exact you know genetic correlation between who dies and who doesn't it's not a high chance you know it's not like 75% chance you're going to find what makes it different in different people but there's a good chance and given that the stakes are so high certainly we should know if there's something about individuals that make them more susceptible other than the obvious you know the obvious being that older people and compromised people have more trouble one of the things that navall suggests is that we look at heat in other words what's the temperature and humidity in the places and does that have some impact on the spread because you might for example say that as soon

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you might for example say that as soon as the warmer weather gets here we'll get a lot of relief and maybe that gives us enough relief until the vaccines come online or or even the testing kits come online so I'll give you my complete prediction now remember nobody can predict the future so don't look at anything I said about you know politics and say well you got that right so therefore he'll predict right about a coronavirus they don't really that skill doesn't transfer it over I'll just tell you my opinion my opinion is this virus will be so widespread that your your decision about traveling or even going to large events will become fatalistic and what I mean by that is there's gonna be a point where you say to yourself you know I'm just gonna get this thing let's just get it over with I got my friends got it it's in my office if I go to the

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got it it's in my office if I go to the doctor's office probably the receptionist has it it's just all over I'm gonna get it now if you're 80 and you've got you've got some immunity problems or some health problems in general you might want to just quarantine yourself until this passes but if you're 35 in perfect health and maybe if we knew a little bit more as Balaji's suggests the street of Awesome he suggests that we know more about you know who's who's really suffering and who's not if you decide that you're one of those people who probably isn't gonna die maybe you just say well I don't I'm gonna get it I'm gonna get it somebody says what about children good point as long as schools are opened there's nothing that you can do if you've got kids and those kids go to school you're gonna get the coronavirus let me just

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gonna get the coronavirus let me just say that as clearly as I can say it if you have children and they go to school you're getting the coronavirus but it'll probably be like the cold you have a few days off of work you will feel no guilt about going to work you know that if you have a have you ever noticed you have a minor cold or a headache or something you feel like you got a tough up and go to work it's like I'm not going to miss work just from a sniffle so you'll always have that balance of should I go to work and I thought but if you get the corona virus it's vacation time yeah let's hope it's not too bad for you but you're not gonna feel bad about staying home because believe me your co-workers will be happy about it even though you're gonna get it all anyway so here's the attitude I would suggest taking into this you were probably going to get a cold or a flu sometimes in the next year or so anyway most of us most of us don't go a full

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most of us most of us don't go a full year when they'll get in something and you're watching me I've got like three things going on right now so it's normal to get something you're probably gonna get this probably I'd say 75% chance so instead of obsessing over whether you will get it or not I recommend as long as you're not immunocompromised I recommend thinking sooner or later I'm gonna get this sooner or later I'm gonna get this I'll feel bad for a week and then I'll be better and then I can't get it again in all likelihood that's the way it's gonna look so I think when this starts to normalize even if the death rate is 2 percent which is 20 times higher than the point one that we we would normally see with a regular flu somebody have this provocative provocative observation on social media I want to test this with you in the comments

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you in the comments it'll be about a 30-second delay before they show up in the comments do you know anybody personally and it could be your coworker doesn't have to be a best friend or anything do you know anybody personally who has ever died from standard flus because we know that a regular flu you know just your everyday flu that it's us every year kills millions and I thought about I thought you know I know people who have died of aids alcoholism accidents I know somebody who died in a parachuting accident I mean personally these are people I personally know well I don't know anybody who died of a flu or locations from the flu from being old and look at the comments come in look at all the knows I'm trying I'm trying to reconcile the fact that the regular flu kills so many people routinely but look

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kills so many people routinely but look at all the know is coming in in fact there's no yes there's not a single yes in that whole line of knows none of us know anybody who died from the flu the old regular flu somebody said that if somebody said they had a friend who died from the flu vaccine maybe you know I'm not sure if you can tell what killed somebody every time somebody says yes elderly in wheelchairs often do but do you know one and so everybody knows the data the data says that it kills people but why don't we know anybody right so what if so look at all the notes go by and this is the big reveal I was getting to oh somebody knows what a forty year old woman this year somebody says they know four people in their 50s who died because of flu mmm

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in their 50s who died because of flu mmm not so sure about that all right so now I'm getting a trickle of yeses but mostly knows so here's the question for you if the number of people dying from the flu were to increase by 20 I don't think that's going to happen but suppose it increased by 20 would you know somebody because yeah and somebody say I know of people but you don't know what he personally somebody says someone in my town means you've heard of it somebody says for co-workers died from the flu I'm sorry I don't believe that I don't believe there's anybody who has four co-workers who died from the flu all right that looks like a troll answer to me I don't that somebody says I knew someone

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somebody says it's always heart failure that kills people well I suppose you could argue that all right so I'm not sure I trust all of the people saying yes on here but here's my point I think there's a really high likelihood that the rate of death from this virus could be much higher and you wouldn't even notice because the people dying would be people in I'm oversimplifying here but in general the people were a lot or who would be dying from it might be dying from other stuff around the same time meaning that just because this is the bullet that killed them doesn't mean there were a hail of bullets heading their way I mean if you're 85 and you've got some health problems already one of the bullets is going to get you and sometimes it might be the virus so my guess is you can see a lot of it you may be surprised that the only people dying are the people who are

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people dying are the people who are gonna die pretty soon anyway from one thing or another all right let's see I got a few other things to talk about that how many of you have canceled your travel plans I have cancelled all of my travel plans so in the comments tell me how many of you just your personal individual decisions about let's say summer vacations or whatever how many of you have canceled all of your travel plans so I have I've canceled everything and I'm a you know I'm a changed my mind in a few months but I'm waiting yeah somebody says they know two people who died from fentanyl as as do I obviously
okay so that's the question we'll see in the comments so let me get back to

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the comments so let me get back to coronavirus I'm gonna talk about some other things just because too much coronavirus all at once is too much but I'm gonna get back to that so apparently the reduction in violence in Afghanistan the worked I didn't see that coming now they called it a reduction in violence versus a ceasefire because they knew they couldn't stop it completely but apparently the Taliban held off at least a little bit in their violence for a week to get serious about signing an historic agreement so I guess there's gonna be some kind of an attempt for a peace agreement and in Afghanistan now my take on this is that none of us are real I assume that the people the Potala ban just would cite anything to have less of us meaning the United States so I don't think the Taliban means it but at least if it gets some of our troops out of there then it just becomes their problem so there's certainly a question

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problem so there's certainly a question about whether it would cause some kind of mass internal Civil War slaughter that we could have prevented by staying but I think we've just decided it's not our business anymore so I think that's good news for the United States and potentially devastating news for Afghanistan you can decide how you feel about that alright Chris Matthews is in the news not for a good reason so he's being accused by journalist Laura Bassett who had appeared on the show and I guess when they were sitting in the makeup chairs he was saying some things that made her uncomfortable and oh I will paraphrase them but basically he was you know upon first meeting her and being in if you've never seen the makeup rooms for these TV shows they're very small so imagine something that's a very small room and often I don't think I've seen more than two chairs there must be something more so

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chairs there must be something more so usually you're pretty close to the other person it's usually one makeup artist on what each person who's going to go on air and so allegedly Chris Matthews said something about you know falling in love with her because of her appearance yeah that he made other kind of what she considered creepy references toward her makeup and her appearance now there's no accusation that he me tutor beyond the way he was talking that made her uncomfortable he wasn't hitting on her and in some explicit way he's being a 74 year old guy who used to talk that way and doesn't know that he can't do it anymore I mean that's basically the whole story but the interesting part about this really doesn't have anything to do with Chris Matthews and I hope he comes out fine I have no ill will for Chris Matthews I think he's a product of his time and his upbringing it's not an excuse yeah I'm not I'm not excusing him

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excuse yeah I'm not I'm not excusing him I'm just explaining there are context matters and he's got a blind spot I would say because he doesn't give me the impression based on watching him for years and years and years I don't get the impression that if he knew he were making somebody unhappy he'd keep doing it so you have to assume there's a sort of a blind spot situation going on here so it's hard for me to get too hateful or I don't know get on my high horse about somebody who's just got a blind spot that got fixed I'm sure my guess is that whatever way Chris Matthews used to behave probably it's that happening anymore because I think he's now informed very informed of how it might be received by other people so there's that but you know he's 74 years old and there's something about this story that

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there's something about this story that borders on elder abuse kinda because it's hard to separate what he's saying and the way he was alleged to have act from his age yeah it's hard to it's hard to separate those things because you know if you were 35 I just don't know if it would be happening and frankly if well here's a here's a thought experiment if Chris Matthews had been a younger more attractive man and he said exactly the same stuff would the would the response have been this I know I'm gonna get in trouble for this probably get a trouble for this it's just a thought experiment I'm not recommending anything and not suggesting anything I'm not I'm certainly not softening or apologizing for Chris Matthews in any way that's just for him to do I'm not interested but you have to

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to do I'm not interested but you have to and here's the blind spot I'm talking about if you're Chris Matthews and you've been famous for a long time he's probably used to people reacting to him in a certain way for a long time and he's not that guy anymore so I think that's part of the blind spot anyway big question in politics is what if Biden wins in South Carolina which apparently he's going to is that going to reinvigorate his campaign will it will it invigorate his campaign well I think it will in the sense that the news media tells us what to think about all this stuff and I think the news media of course likes a horse race everybody says that they want they want some action they want a good matchup they want a good fight so I think the media will be promoting Biden as more of a potential winner of the nomination maybe he should be so yes I think it will change the

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be so yes I think it will change the race might only last a few days until Super Tuesday and then everything will change again but yeah at least the way it's reported will be that it makes a difference now here's the interesting thing about Biden if you imagine that the real powers that be are let's say tribal and let's say that there's a Hillary Clinton tribe a group of people who support Hillary Clinton and have some baby in some cases of financial or psychological interests there and that they would like to have as much control over the government as possible right now you can imagine if you want to take your conspiracy theories or maybe they aren't to another level you say well there's also a intelligence services tribe people who loosely are on the same team and act in a coordinated way even if they don't coordinate explicitly to give sort of an outcome that they want

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give sort of an outcome that they want maybe the maybe the Russian occlusion story was about that so you start seeing the world as tribes there might be a tribe that's very pro-israel there might be a tribe that's you know once this or that but if you see the worldís tribes then you see the political system as sort of the the theatre that the public sees but the real power is these tribal influences over the politics then and and by the way this this is pretty close to how I see the world it's not the only thing happening but it's one of those filters I find useful and to extend that who would the Hillary Clinton tribe let's say that a lot of deep State people working in the government X Obama people etc who would they most like to see as president well they'd like to see somebody who's of their team per se they'd like to see somebody who has policies that they like well I don't think that's the real driving force if

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think that's the real driving force if you imagine that there are tribes that there's a Clinton tribe I think they want power power and all the ways that it matters the money influence connections all that sort of thing and if you believe that's true who would be their favorite candidate because the thing is they wouldn't want a candidate who was strong on his or her own let me be specific would the would the Clinton tribe if such a thing exists would they favor a Bloomberg presidency because they might be quite compatible with his policies so Bloomberg has policies that the Clinton lovers would like would they support him as I say no and here's why because you can't buy him well China probably can buy Bloomberg but if you're the clinton tribe you can't really buy

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the clinton tribe you can't really buy him he's not controllable there's just nothing that you can do so even though he agrees with pretty much policy wise almost all the things sane to want to do I don't think he's gonna get their first choice I mean if he becomes the nominee they might support him but in the camp in the primaries I think I prefer Biden and I think the reason they prefer him is that they know they can control him partly because of age partly because he's the Obama acolyte and Obama probably could control them and that gives you know the Clinton tribe some control but because of his age you are I'm going to this his vice presidential pick will be the big the big variable and I've predicted as Kamala Harris and Kamla Harris is essentially connected to the Clinton tribe meaning that there she has the second most endorsements from

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has the second most endorsements from let's say important Democrats first the first most endorsements is Biden so if you put Biden and combo Harris together first of all they're they're pretty strong package I would say that would be a good a good candidacy to run against the president I think everybody would lose against Trump but it would be a stronger package Bloomberg plus anybody would be a strong package to so here's my prediction apparently the super-delegates have said by a very high majority that they do not to honor the highest vote getter if it's not a majority so it looks like bernie is going to come into the the convention the Democratic convention with the most votes but not over 50% which allows them by their rules to after the first vote the super-delegates can get involved and they've already said that they're not going to automatically elect Bernie and

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going to automatically elect Bernie and I think they all know that it would be a death sentence for Democrats because it kind of would be so what is the most likely thing that these people who have already said they're going to ignore the highest vote total if it's not majority what's the most likely outcome a brokered convention and one that's compatible with the Hillary Clinton tribe I think that's your best choice now would would Bloomberg contribute his money to getting Biden elected if it's not Bloomberg who gets the nomination maybe maybe because that's a big variable if Bloomberg goes all in and says yeah I'm going to fund all the congressional races I'm gonna fund Biden I'm going to do all this well then Biden looks a lot stronger so if you give him a young female senator person to call her vice president and he's controlled

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her vice president and he's controlled by the Clinton machine that feels like where is having now of course you all know my hidden secret interest which is my original prediction is that Cobble Harris would be the candidate for the Democrats she obviously is suspended her campaign and therefore most people would say well Scott you're very wrong about that she didn't even make it into the final eight or whatever it is we're not done yet we're not done yet and at if I were to put money today on the most likely outcome it's this the most likely outcome is Biden getting nomination in a brokered convention having already named or about to name because you know we could suspect it's gonna happen before it happens kind of lares or somebody as good it doesn't have to be calmly Harris but it could be somebody who has a lot of the same

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somebody who has a lot of the same qualities so that's that's my prediction all right but it's probably no more than you know twenty percent likely and the other the other likelihoods are small too I saw Tom cotton tweeted Senator Tom cotton that he was bragging if you will and legitimately by the way when I say people are bragging that's not an insult I am Pro bragging if you did something right you could tell me about it and you could be as as uncouple as you like as long as it's honest as long as you're willing to tell me that when you do something bad that it was also bad so when I say somebody's bragging not an insult as long as it's true and I think it's true in this case Tom cotton said that he called for a travel ban On January 28th he goes on in his tweet and says the quote experts and it would backfire now those same experts admitted

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backfire now those same experts admitted saved lives the president did the right thing by acting decisively so January 28th is when Tom cotton called for a travel ban and so I asked myself I wonder what I calls from the travel band and the answer is four days earlier January 24th now I saw at least one person of social media that cared member was was it Mike sir Mitch I can't remember but somebody else was calling for a travel ban in early and I'm just curious because those of you if you're just joining you're gonna be a little confused by this conversation so I have to give you this context I I've talked often about racing the influence tracing the paths of influence and there are some ways that you could sometimes you can identify choices of words or specific kind of weird language and if you use that your persuasion and then you see other people using your weird unique language you can infer but

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weird unique language you can infer but you don't know for sure that probably you persuade it because you can see the linguistic you know fingerprints go all the way through now in this case all that's happening is travel ban or not a travel ban so there's no linguistic fingerprints whatsoever and I'm asking the question because I don't know were there other people publicly and vigorously asking for an end to a travel ban before I did so that's the question for you in the comments send me a DM or or tweet at me if you know so let me know if somebody called for it before January 24th when I did all right
bill kristol is pushing a new hoax it's hoax 8 it looks like it's going to be a big one and it looks like hoax 8 hoax 8 is going to spread faster than the

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8 is going to spread faster than the coronavirus well it already has because it's going to millions in this country already and here's the hoax the hoax is that allegedly President Trump said that the corona virus is a hoax do you believe that do you believe that the President of the United States said that the corona virus is a hoax maybe do you even have to look at the details do you really need to even look at the context on its surface without doing any research whatsoever don't you go that's a hoax maybe really isn't that obviously a hoax now what this comes from is that the President did say that the way the Democrats are politicizing his reaction to the corona virus all the steps the government has taken that he's saying their reaction to it is the hoax in other words the hoax is saying that the president hasn't done anything were

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the president hasn't done anything were enough about it in fact he has in his opinion so the bad people the bill crystals of the world and by the way you know I always rail against imagining you know what people are thinking because we're so terrible at it but I can't watch Bill Kristol do anything without thinking his intentions are actually just evil I've been actually evil now are there people who actually have evil intentions like an actual sociopath or a psychopath because Bill Kristol looks exactly like a sociopath like there's something deeply wrong with him and his I mean I think when I see him in public it seems like he's trying to harm the country for whatever personal benefit etc and I don't say that about a lot of people and

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don't say that about a lot of people and I never say that about a president by the way when when Obama was president it was popular on the right to say that President Obama hated America and he was trying to destroy it now that's ridiculous one of the things I believe to be true is that no matter what kind of a you know evil bad person you were by the time you become president of the United States the most normal psychological transformation would be well the United States is great if the United States picked you as its leader what would you think of the United States would you say well they picked me as the leader but man they're broken that United States as a piece of garbage but they picked me as the leader of the garbage no no not a single person in the world would be able to have that thought and if they were that crazy I think we would have detected it by the time you are selected by your country to protect them and to be their leader there is no

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them and to be their leader there is no way in the world that you can have a bad feeling about the people who put you in that position I mean you could have bad feelings about Satan's but you're not going to have a bad feeling about erricka once America has made you its brand leader I just don't think that your brain can even do that unless you're actually damaged in some way no normal brain can dislike the United States once you're the leader so anyway I won't assume that I know what Bill Kristol is thinking but I will say that the the overall impression by all of his actions are that there's something deeply wrong with him I mean actually sociopaths kind of rob I'm not diagnosing I'm saying that that would be the impression he leaves by his actions we can't know what he's actually thinking all right so they're all so the way Bill Kristol spread the hoax yes he

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way Bill Kristol spread the hoax yes he said this he said that the president called the concern about the Karuna virus a hoax didn't happen the president never said anything like the concern for the virus is a hoax he has says he hopes everything will be well but there's a good chance it could you know spread and become bigger that's just the fact it's a good chance it will spread and get bigger he hopes that that won't happen nothing wrong with that so that's the Oaks so I'm playing an experiment today so you may have seen me tweet that this new hoax hoax ate that the president called the coronavirus a hoax which didn't happen but that hoax I'm trying to see if I can kill it early because the earlier you get it the more cheetah's you have snuffing it out and what I've done is I've put the provocative idea on Twitter that the hoax itself is a virus that will only infect artists because if you look at it

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infect artists because if you look at it that's all the people who are writers who seem to have fallen for it now watch and see the paucity the lack of engineers lawyers scientists and economists who buy into this hoax just watch for it every time you see the hoax you're gonna see it a bunch of times and you're gonna see it on TV you're gonna see it on Twitter a lot but to click on the profile and find out if the person is a journalist writer pundit musician Michael Moore you know MSNBC host etc and so the the funny part sorry my cats visiting the funny part will be be seeing if we can shame them off it I've never tried this but see if we can shame them off it by demonstrating the only artists are susceptible to the hoax virus will say it's just a test

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it's just a test speaking of reprogramming people you know I've made the connection between a an idea virus and an actual virus and I've often said that terrorism Islamic terrorism and probably any other terrorism so let's just call it terrorism is like an idea virus it has all the qualities of these physical viruses and by that I mean it it is transmitted by contact you can't easily tell who has it who doesn't have it you know that the thought of terrorism to actually do it you it spreads quickly there's no cure it affects individuals differently and once it gets inside your borders people are gonna die now here's why I think this story has more impact in a pre suasion indirect way than we may be noticing it will become increasingly clear to people that an

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increasingly clear to people that an idea virus in other words somebody who has bad intentions in their head and an actual virus need to be treated almost the same way which means you know quarantine closing borders having people as much as you can and I think that that those two ideas have always been treated as completely separately but because of especially now that there are couple people in Mexico that have the coronavirus that immediately makes you think about border security because do you want infected immigrants who are lovely people you know I'm never one who will speak ill of immigrants I love my immigrants lovely people but it looks like they're gonna be more of them we're infected in the future as soon as that happens people are going to start equating in their mind border security and this physical virus the corona virus and it's a very small

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the corona virus and it's a very small leap from that to seeing internal thoughts and an idea of viruses as the same thing yeah you have to treat them and say and here's my question why if we never use or maybe we have and I don't know about it but is there a persuasion lab where we're trying to cure terrorists is that happening because you'd you'd imagine this somewhere the government somebody ought to be working on that then let me tell you how to do it so you take a bunch of terrorists and let's say you work on the the hardest cases let's say Guantanamo Bay you've got a bunch of terrorists and Guantanamo Bay why are we not trying to deprogram them is it because military doesn't do that is it because we don't know how is it because that's not the purpose of Guantanamo Bay yeah maybe that's just not its purpose so nobody even thinks to try that but here's how you do it now

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try that but here's how you do it now I'm gonna ask you that if you if you're a believer and you have a religious belief doesn't matter if it's Christian Muslim doesn't matter what it is I would ask you to turn off the turn off the livestream now because what I'm going to say in a moment could actually deprogram your religions and unpro religion so I don't want to do that I'm Pro religion but not a believer and by that I mean that it's it's just so obvious to me that the religion filter on life is very very positive for man of amounts of people and I'm in favor of anything that works you know if this religion works for you makes you a better person gives you a framework for your life keeps you out of trouble that's all good stuff I mean some of the finest people I've ever met are deeply religious and I don't think that's a coincidence so a very pro religion but I'm going to say some things in a moment

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I'm going to say some things in a moment that could actually destroy your religious belief so I would ask you and I'm serious about this I'm completely serious if you don't want to take that risk because religion is good in your life you should turn this off and not listen alright here's what I would do if I were trying to deprogram religious terrorists let's say an Islamic terrorist the only way you can do it is to deprogram their religion you have to do that you can't really deprogram just probably again this all would have to be tested but my sense of it is you probably would not succeed keeping their religion intact and just trying to get rid of that bad Bart I think that's - that's too fine a I don't think the surgery could be that fine so I think instead you would have to get rid of their religion and that's why I've asked you to turn off this broadcast if you don't want to have anything about your religious belief you

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anything about your religious belief you know perform a question in your mind it goes like this I've never known anybody who has studied the history of religion and and all of the different religions and how they formed and you know who believes what across the world who in my opinion believes that it's true or believes any one of their religions is true now I don't think any of you agree with that right probably a hundred percent of you just said well that's not true there must be tons of people who study the history of religion and are still religious in fact probably most of you are gonna say I think most people who study it keep their religion well I'm going to make a distinction two kinds of beliefs there's one kind of belief where you really believe it I mean you really really believe it it is literally your truth but there's another kind of belief and I'll call it

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another kind of belief and I'll call it a lifestyle belief I wrote about this in God's debris it goes like this if you're gonna cross the street and there's a truck coming your direction and you know that walking in front of it would put you in front of the oncoming truck do you say I don't believe there's a truck there you know walk out in front of it no your belief in the truck is the real kind belief that if you walk in front of the truck it will kill you is the real true kind of belief the other kind is I'm gonna you know be this religious kind of person I'm gonna buy into the lifestyle I'm gonna pray I'm gonna tell myself it's true I'm gonna act like it's true but it's different that's a lifestyle belief and I think there's nothing wrong with I'm certainly not insulting it in any way I believe that if you show somebody all the different religions it becomes immensely obvious that they're all invented by people sorry if you didn't know that that's why

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sorry if you didn't know that that's why I asked you to turn off the the stream most people don't know that I would say I know 80% of the world 80% of believers would not be aware that the if you looked at the history of religion and how they grew and what what they have in common it's cetera it's really obvious that they're just invented by people once you see that I think and this is the hypothesis subject to testing it would move some number of people not all from that real kind of belief the kind of where you walk into it in front of a truck is really going to kill you too the other kind of belief where it's a lifestyle because you can't really ask a devout Muslim who's you know brought up in the life to get rid of that they might want to keep the lifestyle just get rid of the literal belief and move it into more about prints belief if you will now would that work don't know maybe works for someone

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work don't know maybe works for someone maybe doesn't work for others would it work in conjunction with other things I don't know might but the point is that you could create a lab where you had actual terrorists and then you could test you could hook up up to you know brain brain monitors sensors and you could say okay let's test you with a variety of images based on your old belief you know your current belief that you're a terrorist and they probably get happy when they saw terrorist act for example then you then you work your tests and then you test them again you put the bread brain sensors on you so you show them the same images and you see if anything is different so if it worked you could move somebody from being excited that there was a terrorist act like actually that part of the brain guard yeah bunch people got killed too putting the sensors on and now they think oh god that looks like a big mistake and I think you could measure that

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and I think you could measure that directly in the brain so are we doing that anywhere if I had to guess probably we press probably somewhere in the government or maybe it's another country somebody's testing this and if they're not I'm pretty disappointed in the governments of the world all right so there's that you can add only one other thing I wanted to talk about transgender sports this is for those of you who haven't already to down so I want to leave you with just this one thought experiment the way sports are currently organized throwing some transgender athletes into the mix is seems terribly dangerous in some cases and unfair people would say to women in other cases but that's as sports are currently

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but that's as sports are currently organized what if we simply said about everybody plays on the league that they're capable that's it just everybody plays wherever they're capable if you're if you're a woman and you can play in the NBA okay why not now the reason that people say no no this is not fair is that women would never be the best in the sport for most important I guess so people say it's terribly unfair you know women would not ever be the best now I've gotten rid of the problem that the transgender athlete would be too good because if you just rate everybody availability and you can play in a co-ed team if that's where you fall out then there's no worry about transgenders dominating the sport they're just put in the mix with everybody else but it does have this one problem there would seem terribly unfair to women because they couldn't play on a team with you know just women if they cared about that and they couldn't have

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cared about that and they couldn't have any stars and I would like to put this thought into the mix technology has fixed that if you gave me a choice of watching Serena Williams play a hundred and ten pound female that she's going to absolutely obliterate and you already know it before you turn on the TV or Serena Williams plays the number two hundredth ranked man which if I could watch watching Serena play the band every time I think you would have a similar reaction or at least enough people would that eventually you would have you know you would have some kind of fairness now somebody said title nine you know goodbye I think you could still be fair to women by letting them play at as many teams as they want funding them equally making sure they have the same resources etc but teams are just sometimes co-ed or all the time co-ed but you don't always have a situation

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but you don't always have a situation where there would be a woman on the most elite teams one would assume so here's the thing would would Serena Williams make as much money let's say in endorsements and championship victories and stuff that would she make as much money if she played a semi Cohen and the answer is not the way it's organized now but how hard would it be to change it all you'd have to do is say you know more people are gonna watch Serina play the 203 man that are going to watch to 12th ranked men play each other I think that's true so the only thing I'm adding to this conversation so you don't think it's the same conversation over and over I see somebody in the comments saying that is that the use of technology allows you to watch the the match you want and if there were ever if ever there was interest in watching women play sports and obviously there is shouldn't be a

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and obviously there is shouldn't be a problem you can watch anything you want all right I'm just gonna put that in the next kiss it's a fun topic somebody says Serena would get crushed Scott that is the dumbest you think I've seen today somebody said Serena would get crushed by the 200 ranked tennis player who's a male there's a dub-dub statement I'm sorry that's just so stupid not because you're wrong it might actually be treated that the 200 rights man would be Serena but you're arguing about the 200 part if you have to go to 300 it's the same point all right so you need to up your game a little bit you need to improve your argument game a little bit better if you're arguing about that the 200 was the wrong number you're just on the wrong argument all right this is an example all right sorry I did be too square there let's stuff for today I'll talk to you tomorrow