Episode 832 Scott Adams: Why Bloomberg Won the Debate, Why Bernie is Mortally Wounded, Coronavirus

Date: 2020-02-26 | Duration: 59:56

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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a Coronavirus: is $2.5billionor$8.5 billion enough? Debate Democrats tearing each other apart Two groups who will determine our next President Why Mike Bloomberg won the debate Reviewing the debate candidates

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um hey everybody come on in it's time for a coffee with Scott Adams and you came to the right place chances are you came prepared you might have everything you need the rest of you better hurry up and grab what you need and why you need is well a cup or a mug or a glass a tanker chelators time the canteen Joker flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes absolutely everything better it's called the simultaneous up you're about to experience it go ah
and with that sip fill yourself connected to people all over the world who are enjoying this periscope simultaneously well we got some fun news

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simultaneously well we got some fun news now it's the good kind well except for the corona virus that's not very good but there's funny news and when the news is funny it makes me happy so let's talk about some of the funny news well I guess this first part is not too funny but I started prepping for the corona virus now I don't want to panic anybody but there are a number of people especially on the Twitter Mike sort of itch being one of the leaders among them saying maybe you should just be ready because our supply lines and a lot of our economic connecting tissue is sort of falling apart quickly now I don't think it's going to be a long-term problem I think that will we'll get through it we'll be fine right most of us well some people will no doubt die but probably not more the

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no doubt die but probably not more the we'll die on bicycles this weekend etc so I think the United States is going to do a capable job of keeping the damage to to the lowest level it can be kept too so I have some confidence but there may be a period where our government says hey people can you just stay home for two weeks so I got enough stuff in that I'm not going to you know none of us will starve to death if it has to happen I'll probably put a NRA sticker on the door just in case and just just see you know how irrational all of this is a lot of people including me bought a lot of bottled water why do I need bottled water for a virus outbreak let me think about it it's not like the virus is coming through the through by faucet and it's not like the water company is gonna stop sending me water

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company is gonna stop sending me water because they've got a fever I have no idea why I'm prepping and stockpiling water but I saw other people doing it and I thought well I don't want to be the idiot who has no water so it makes no sense at all but I did it anyway so you might want to think the same way apparently the Rasmus Rasmussen poll is showing that Trump has reached a new all-time high in approval now I know I know it's the Rasmussen poll and it's friendlier to Trump than others but if this one is up the others are probably up from whatever base they were as well so I think he's he's like five points higher than Obama was at the same point and so I ask yourself what is it that's making the president's numbers go up I think it's probably a bunch of stuff but very near the top of the list of what is

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very near the top of the list of what is making Trump look good is the more we see the Democrats and I know that sounds like a hugely partisan thing to say but I think Democrats would agree right just objectively speaking I would say that even Democrats are looking at their own best candidates and saying to themselves seriously there are a lot of Democrats there are there are millions of us and that was our best group right there that's that's the best they can do now because they're tearing each other apart the president doesn't even need to do much but you know lob a grenade into the mess every now and then just for fun so the Democrats are doing a good job of tearing each other apart which is making them all look kind of bad at the moment compared to whatever you thought they look like a month ago it's just part of the process so the president being somewhat above the fray at the moment

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somewhat above the fray at the moment they're sort of turning their fire on each other it makes the contrast a little bit better so he just looks good because they're making each other look bad but there's some other things happening that are helping the president and really a lot of stuff going his way now his trip to India did you see some of the footage of the outdoor scenes in India where the president was I looked at it and I said to myself is this a really foggy day or is this major city in India so polluted that you can't see a hundred feet and I wasn't sure the first picture I said because I thought well it might have been fog I don't know but then I saw another article with another picture that looked similar and it talked about how bad the pollution was and I thought to myself holy hell seriously you have that many people living in that conditions that literally can't breathe

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conditions that literally can't breathe the air and when you see our president go over there you say to yourself well there's something that the United States is doing very right compared to that because remember there are a highly educated advanced democratic society you know that they have all of the assets that we have and more in some cases certainly people but they're not doing it right I mean they've created an environment that's killing them just by existing and yeah in this subtle way you say to yourself my god look outside I'm looking at my window right now it doesn't look like that so whatever the United States is doing is way better than that and the president just irrationally gets some credit for that because you associated him with with the better result so I think the whole India trip has been really positive for the president of course he got a hero's welcome there and then everybody looks

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welcome there and then everybody looks at it and they say wait a minute the Democrats have been telling us that were that this president is disrespected overseas but a hundred percent of what we're seeing on this India trip is exactly the opposite so clearly it has to do with you know some people some situations they don't like him but that would be the same everywhere we've never had a president who was equally liked everywhere in the world so I think the people are the the foreign trips always work in the president's favor because he gets a hero's welcome and that just doesn't match what people are saying about him in the way you would be accepted overseas all right so there's that going on I understand this this was kind of weird I saw a Jake Tapper tweeted a fox report story which by itself was weird so how often do they

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itself was weird so how often do they see it n employees a retweet content from Fox I feel like there's something going on like some kind of rebellion rebellion among the staff at CNN like a I don't have evidence of it but it's sometimes you can smell things before you can see them and I feel like the Democrats are feeling you know as they watch the Democratic candidates falling apart in front of them I think they're feeling it's getting harder and harder to take aside against Trump so I think this is just a speculation and I can't this is really as much a gut feeling as anything else I think you might see some kind of evolution happening and see then where you're gonna see a little more balance in the reporting you know a little less anti-trump a little bit more let's talk about what

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a little bit more let's talk about what works and what doesn't work I think just a guess but look for that anyway anyway what Jake tweeted was that Schumer apparently Chuck Schumer is trying to get way more money to battle the corona virus I guess the Trump administration asked for 2.5 billion which sounds like a lot and then Schumer came in and asked for 8.5 billion which is a lot more now how much do we need what's the right number citizen voter what's the right number is 2.5 the right number is it all we need or is 8.5 the right number well here's the clever apartment and credit to Schumer you don't know I have no idea could we spend eight point five billion quickly enough because whatever this coronavirus does to us it's all going to

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coronavirus does to us it's all going to happen in a year right I mean whatever happens is gonna take about a year could we spend eight point five billion in a year I don't know it could be that that's a complete waste of money but politically how does it make you feel well I feel a lot more comfortable if the government says let's let's try eight point five I feel way more comfortable if the government says some form of this and by the way I think if I'm being objective I think Trump is blowing it on his his handling of the corona virus I think he's blowing it now I'm not the one who's going to criticize the details meaning I can't tell does it matter that the
the endemic I got fired two years ago and budget cuts I don't know does it matter because it probably doesn't but might who knows I'm not the guy who can argue the details because the thing that you never know is if

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the thing that you never know is if there had been a different president in the same circumstances would that different president have done something differently that would have gotten a better result we'll never know because there's no test all we know is that what one president did so I can't really I can't intellectually honestly criticize or compliment anything the Trump administration does on this unless it's unless it's so amazing or so egregious that it's just obvious it's a mistake but anything in that middle zone of well we got this much money we did these things we got this result we wish had been better anything in that vast middle zone if you're being honest you don't know you don't know if another president would have done it better or differently but one way one thing we can tell is how they make us feel and I feel a lot better at 8.5 because it just feels like the government is you know making more

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the government is you know making more of an effort I don't know if we could spend 8.5 I really don't but I'd feel better if the government took the big number instead of the small number so I think this is a case where Schumer wins politically because he's doing something that makes the country feel better and and Trump is not Trump is sort of played it off as you know we got this the United States is in good shape that's half of what I want to hear and this is why I say Trump is kind of blowing it on this because he's only half way right so the first half I want to hear is that we're very capable we've got great people were funding them we're taking this very seriously and we're a good shape I want to hear that here's the other part I want to hear we're going to over-prepare we're good we don't know exactly what the right thing that to do is we don't know exactly the right budget but we're gonna

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exactly the right budget but we're gonna err on the side of being over-prepared I'm telling you now people we don't think it's going to be the big problem that that people are saying it's going to be we think we can avoid that but here's our approach whatever we think is the right amount of preparation we're going to do more than that we're going to exceed that that's best we can do now if my president tells me that hey I think we'll be fine and the reason I think we'll be fine is we're going to really over prepare they're not feeling good but if my president says I think we're gonna be fine here's our 2.5 million we asked for and then you see Schumer asks for 8.5 do you still think we're over prepared well 8.5 might be over preparing and I prefer it so that's my take on that I think Schumer wins this round politically even if the 8.5 is unnecessary here's a positive thought

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is unnecessary here's a positive thought maybe some of you won't think this is a positive thought but I'm gonna frame it that way however many years it was since the Emancipation Proclamation somebody tell me how many years had spend in the comments so many years have gone by and then of course black people have to fight and fight and fight and civil rights and still fighting and things are still not exactly as fair and equal as people would like it but a lot closer but let me let me give you this thought that's just sort of mind-blowing so X years ago was slavery in this country in 2020 black voters will pick our president again because I think you'd agree that the you know the whatever ninety percent plus percentage of African American citizens who voted for

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African American citizens who voted for Obama twice were undoubtedly reason that he was elected twice I mean all the other variables had to be in place and white people had to vote for him too but the most determined and variable the one that I think is by far the most important was the black vote now fast-forward to 24 our next president in my opinion it's black citizens so 156 years ago black people in this country were literally slaves and in 156 years it's 2020 they will decide again for the third time in a well I guess you could say it would be the fourth time in a row the black vote kinda is going to decide who's the president right I'm not wrong about that

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president right I'm not wrong about that because it wouldn't take much for them to overwhelmingly reelect President Trump it wouldn't take much just a little bit of movement toward more Republican voting and it wouldn't take much to keep him from being elected simply vote at the same ratio they voted for Obama and that's it that's that's the end of it now you can also do the same thing with the female vote how many years ago was it that women didn't have the vote all right but women are now the majority of the country in that in a system in which you know the majority vote means something so women to have the power should they decide to vote as a coherent bloc there are more of them women actually have the power if they decide to use it you know in a combined way and I also believe that women are far more educated at the moment is that

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far more educated at the moment is that not true that there are more women getting into college or women getting you know becoming lawyers and doctors etc high-paying careers so I think there are more educated women and and education is highly correlated with percentage of voting right the more highly educated the more likely you're going to show up at the polls so I'd say that women and black Americans have effectively the majority control of the electoral process all right so that's just a an interesting thing to think about I've been saying this for a while Candis Owen says it better but I think that Republicans are natural allies with the african-american community they're the most naturally compatible group now yeah yeah I get it there is some percentage of Republicans or irredeemable racists I'm sure some

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irredeemable racists I'm sure some percentage of Democrats are also irredeemable racist we're not talking about that you know we're not talking about them but just your general Republican is a natural ally to the black community you can see this in the results that the president's got everything from prison reform to special economic zones to you know increased funding for historically black colleges and you know low unemployment rate that he crows about all the time but here's the thing don't you think that open borders could be considered the opposite of reparations because if you are a black citizen in this country well how do you feel about opening the border and letting people in who of course never suffered from you know slavery in this country never benefited from it they're just sort of you know another group but

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just sort of you know another group but they are having a big impact on you know your tax base your economic situation isn't how can you have open borders and also be in favor of reparations because what open borders feels like the opposite somebody says a stretch is it a stretch if Republicans are trying to keep border tight and explicitly for the benefit of Americans and explicitly for Benton the benefit of Americans at the lower end of the economic situation I don't know it just looks like Republicans are the natural allies and the other thing that Republicans have that the black community shares is they're pretty religious so Republicans are pretty religious the black community's very religious and Republicans have a a path to success follow these laws you know get a job obey the Constitution boom you're good with us us being Republicans

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you're good with us us being Republicans I'm not a Republican but playing the part of a Republican for this point all right so I think that's the biggest story as the black flint and will continue to be through 2020 let's talk about the debate how everybody did in my opinion Mike Bloomberg wanted debate and he won it hard now I don't you know I tried to ignore all the other pundits me before I formed my own opinion because it's easy to be influenced if here the three people in a row say you know X person one you start thinking all experts along three people Senate so I intentionally avoided other people's commentary now other people are not saying Bloomberg what they are saying he did better all right so here's my argument for why Bloomberg one part of it is that the others lost Bloomberg did a little bit better and everybody

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did a little bit better and everybody else didn't so direction matters you know as soon as the public or the pundits sniff any kind of directional change that makes more difference than where you're at because people are looking at the direction so let me go through the the other candidates performance and then I'll talk about why Bloomberg won first of all you can't underestimate how diabolical president Trump's nicknames really are when he named joe biden's sleepy Joe as soon as he named him sleepy Joe I'm sure I said this in public more than once I said he it's gonna cause Biden to have to overcompensate and to look less sleepy and and that takes you out of your comfort zone because most people are trying to operate within their their personality to operate the way they always have and they're comfortable you know this is who I am this is what I do

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know this is who I am this is what I do as soon as the president says that little comfort zone you were in Joe Biden makes you look sleepy what does that cause Joe Biden to need to do he needs to act not sleepy now how is he doing it apparently he is substituting good arguments with angry furrowed brows have you noticed that the less that Joe Biden says the anger more angrily he says it so have you notice that when Joe Biden doesn't have a good point he just says it more angrily so I wonder like you know Joe Biden ordering coffee in Starbucks you could see him in there Oh mr. Biden you know what can I get for you today and Joe Biden would be like I want a grande grande latte leave room for milk from Luke and then he would order his

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from Luke and then he would order his coffee and you'd say Joe Biden I don't know why you're so angry and why are your eyebrows doing that like do you need a shot of Botox there that looks really painful do you have a headache afterwards for that that eyebrow thing you're doing I'm so angry now to me it seems obvious that he's lost the step several steps and that he's compensating for being sleepy by being extra angry so he is not acting sleepy right if he did act sleepy he'd be playing into Trump's trap so he's he left his comfort zone to act really crazy and angry and it just I people know there's something wrong I mean when you watch Biden last night did it look like he was a forceful in command alpha leader which I think is what he was going for or did he look a

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what he was going for or did he look a little deranged in a way that older people sometimes can be be honest he looked he just didn't look right I mean if you're being honest now what did the president tweet about that the funniest the funniest president in the world I wrote it down guess you have to get the exact wording so one of the secrets of humor is simplification and this is one of the secrets that Trump gets right now of course people who are not so much in the know long ago people stopped doing this but he would be teased for keeping things so simple but but that's also the secret to his humor simplicity and humor are almost the same thing there's just a look bit of difference and once you understand that then it allows you that formula to be funny so look at his

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formula to be funny so look at his simplicity and this and also he likes to make things visual so see how visual this is and how simple it is and that's why it's so funny so he tweets this he goes crazy chaotic democratic debate last night fake news said Biden did well even though he said half of our population was shot to death which he actually said so Biden incorrectly said that a hundred and fifty million people had been killed by handguns that's about half of the population of the United States so the president says Fator said Biden did well even though he said half
come on that's funny and then the president continues in his tweet would be over for most minibike was weak and unsteady but helped greatly

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was weak and unsteady but helped greatly by his many commercials which are not supposed to be allowed now that's true that the commercials that ran during the presidential debate were bike Bloomberg commercials and you know I was watching on DVR and I would get to the commercial Anna started to skip it and I thought I might really save this how is that fair how in the world does Mike Bloomberg get to run Mike Bloomberg commercials during the debate how in the world is that legal and if it's legal why is he the only one doing it does nobody else have any money because if I were gonna run a debate if I were gonna run I'm going to ad on TV can you think of a better time to do it what would be the best time to run an ad you know so when I say that Mike Bloomberg won the debate if you were watching the debate and you saw that only one candidate ran a commercial in the debate and it seemed to him it

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in the debate and it seemed to him it looks like you ran all of them what would you say to yourself I would say there seems to be only one smart well-funded person on that stage because they all should have done that if that's something you can do and apparently it is so why did Bloomberg why was he the only one it made the others look like idiots honestly or underfunded which would look like a loser as well so that's just one of the reasons that Bloomberg one is that he was the only one doing the obvious smarter thing run an ad during the during the debate let's talk more about Biden so Ronnie Jackson the axe doctor to the president ex doctor to President Trump said that Biden might need that cognitive test that he gave the president and the president scored well and
and I like that Rodney Jackson is going full political I don't know if he's ever done that before except for supporting the

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that before except for supporting the president that you work for but that's that's pretty damning when a guy who was the the doctor for a president says I think this candidate needs to take that cognitive test okay it's not just it's just not just you and I you know we're not the only one seeing something there's something wrong there all right so I think Biden is done it's a matter of time so that's one reason that Bloomberg one right so Bloomberg wins when the people were competing against him are not doing better or it was especially if they're doing worse let's talk about the others I thought Elizabeth Warren Warren was boring lawyerly unpleasant and a liar that's how she came across to me did anybody else see it differently now you're probably thinking Oh Scott you

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you're probably thinking Oh Scott you like you like president Trump so you're just saying that Democrats are liars but wait for it what did Bloomberg lie about yesterday what did Bloomberg lie about during the debate or even if you like what did Bloomberg lie about recently doesn't even have to be last night you know what the answer is nothing nothing right can you think of anything I can't think of anything that Bloomberg lied about can you and he's competing against somebody who stood right next to him and lied and he called called her help for the you know being inaccurate and stuff but I think yeah I think she seemed she didn't have the charisma she didn't come across as likable and I'm very careful about using that word because I know there's a gender element

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because I know there's a gender element to that you know you don't want to be the one who says that a woman was unlikable in a in a group of men competing for the top office but I'm gonna soften that this way Bernie is pretty unlikable to me right so I'm not saying this just about Elizabeth Warren I find Bernie but there's there's stuff I like about him definitely some character elements I like about Bernie but I don't like listening to him he comes across as as an angry old man get off my lawn so I would equate them is fairly similarly you know unlikable so that I can take the the gender part off of that alright who else I think that Pete Buddha judge had a really bad night because he kept trying to tried to take in alpha kind of

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trying to tried to take in alpha kind of control over the debate because it was kind of a free-for-all and you saw that Biden didn't do a good job except complaining because he wasn't getting much time which was not really very literally it was more like a old man complaining because somebody stole his mail but Buddha judge kept trying to talk over his competitors and failing so he was sort of under talk them you know somebody else would sort of be commanding your attention but you'd hear little Buddha judge voice maybe maybe a minute and here's the reason the Buddha judge is done the moment you realize that Peabody judge is just the poor man's Mike Bloomberg there's no reason for them right if you wanted a mayor to be your president somebody has experience as a mayor do you want the mayor of the middle-sized town city or would you want a mayor who

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town city or would you want a mayor who ran New York City that's bigger than most or a lot of countries no competition right if you wanted somebody who only had experience as a mayor you're not going to pick the guy from the little little city you're gonna you're gonna pick Bloomberg which of them will be better funded well obviously Bloomberg which of them has more experience obviously Bloomberg which of them is moot has been successful with you know working across the aisle obviously Bloomberg so the problem that P has is that his natural comparison just changed before Bloomberg was actually on the stage Pete was sort of his own little thing right you didn't think anybody was like him he was just all by himself it's like he had his own little channel there for a while but the moment you had Bloomberg you got two mayors and one of them's a lot more capable and successful and has a record and I ran a bigger thing it's not even

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and I ran a bigger thing it's not even close so I think Pete disappeared he looked like sort of a beta personality on that stage could be him I'm gonna use beta compared to Elizabeth Warren even so it's not a gender thing as well you know he looked less less strong than Elizabeth warranted by comparison so I think he's going to fade then let's talk about Bernie Bernie has two fatal wounds to mortal wounds so Bernie basically is dead man walking he might make it to the nomination he might limp to the nomination but he has two fatal flaws one is that I think the Democrats did a really good job of making the case and several of them did the that a birdie-birdie candidacy would cost them

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birdie-birdie candidacy would cost them the house or could it could be a fatal mistake that would allow another another four years of Trump appointing judges and it would turn over the house and it could be a catastrophe that is a really good point coming from Democrats that same point if it came from a Republican would to have the same kind of firepower you just say it's just what Republicans say but when you see a group of Democrats saying the same thing about one of their own
own one of our own you realize that your plant is gonna ruin everything I mean it's the riskiest thing we can ever do that's the fatal flaw there's nothing Bernie can do to fix that so but he might have enough already momentum to limp it to the nomination the the other thing that's a fatal flaw is when he was

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thing that's a fatal flaw is when he was challenged about his programs and how he would pay for them each time he's challenged by let's say by Democrats again it's far more impactful when he's challenged by his own team if a Republican challenged him you just say hey your numbers are stupid too you know it's just political but when his own team challenges some of his numbers not adding up that's really powerful and I keep waiting for birdie to improve how he's explaining himself and he's not he doesn't seem to have the capability to explain economic stuff in a persuasive you know believable way so he starts waving his arms and getting angry and throwing out numbers and when he does that waving his arms and throwing out numbers that don't really seem to answer the question of how could we afford all this is just he's just throwing data you he feels like more of a con man so I'm slowly feeling you know his his brand

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slowly feeling you know his his brand being shifted by his opponents from this ethical guy who's got a movement to something more like a conman who knows his numbers don't add up because he now acts like someone who knows it's not real right because he does such a bad job of defending it you know the the math of it that it doesn't look like he even believes it so I think those are his two fatal flaws
who else was there Klobuchar you know I saw some people saying she did a good job I would also say that if you were if you were going to grade her on you know hitting all her notes saying the right things having you know sensible sounding policies sounding serious sounding like she had a good track record I would you know if you were doing the checklist of a debate it looked really good check check check check check clover

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check check check check check clover charms but here's the thing I thought she disappeared on the stage that was just my impression in other words when you put her up her there with those other people there's something about her persona that just sort of shrinks it could be height could be a gender thing but I don't think so because elizabeth warren did not shrink so clearly there's you know and i think if you would put Hillary Clinton on the stage I don't think she would have shrunk but there was something about the debate that I couldn't get to interested in what she was saying even though it all made sense yeah there's something a lack of charisma here that obviously hasn't hurt her as a senator she's been very successful but I'm not sure the public can be happy with with let's say someone who is just good at their job

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someone who is just good at their job Klobuchar comes across as a a comfortable pair of shoes meaning I don't have anything to complain about from Klobuchar yeah if you were to say to me Scott named her biggest negative I'd say oh well that's weird I can't think of one she doesn't really have one she's actually a really really strong candidate but I don't know that her charisma is selling to her own side there's something a little bland about her don't know what it is so I don't think she's a threat to make a move in the pack who was a the other notable person was a steyr I can't get too serious about steyr because I don't think his own side is serious about it if Steyr you know did unusually well on Super Tuesday or something I guess I would reassess but I don't think he's I don't think he did anything to to move

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don't think he did anything to to move up to the top three alright so given that the other people looked worse that either looked fatal or they disappeared here's what I felt about Bloomberg you saw him try to make some jokes that completely didn't work right did he see that so Bloomberg tried to be funny he tried to be self-deprecating he made a joke about a naked cowboy in New York that nobody understood unless they're from New York in other words that's a it's a New York reference totally out of place he joked that he did so well in the last debate so he was being self deferential or her self deprecating but it did really come across because he didn't deliver it well here was my net impression I kind of liked him more I don't know if you had that impression but he looked he looked like a nerd who was who meant well that

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like a nerd who was who meant well that is very effective he's just not good at that stuff and I don't have a problem with that I don't have any problem with somebody who knows they're inert they know they're not good at that stuff yeah he took a shot at it was he embarrassed apparently not I like a guy who go out there and fail in public and just say yeah laughing off try it again so I have to say that Bloomberg looked a little more human he and this is the one of the main things I was looking for is to see if his age was was as much of a negative as you'd expect he didn't look his age if you were to compare Bloomberg's of mental agility to Joe Biden's it's not even close right Bloomberg didn't look like there's anything missing now I still think he's too old I don't think we should be electing leaders above you know certain age of these that he's at it but it doesn't show it so

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he's at it but it doesn't show it so that works to his advantage and the other thing that was very strong is he listed off some accomplishments that I wasn't aware of this sounded pretty solid he talked about how the school system in New York improved tremendously he talked about how life expectancy in New York improved while he was mayor and that's pretty good he talked about and here's my the best part he made a little bit of news by miss speaking during the debate and he talked about how he helped to fund the campaign's of half of the people who were part of the 40 new people who came into Congress and flipped the house so that dancy pelosi could be in charge and as he put it put a control on the president so Bloomberg was taking credit for flipping the house and already putting their control on Trump but he misspoke and he he started to say that he bought it now here's the

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to say that he bought it now here's the thing of course the the gotcha part of the press and what you said bought it are you trying to buy our democracy but here's the thing he told you he's not hiding it he bragged about it he said I I just bought you in the house and I can buy it I can buy you the Senate basically he didn't say that but the idea is he can buy you what you want do you know how powerful that is Bluebird just said not only can i buy you what you want with me as president I proved it I bought you what you want in the house it worked and now I'm buying you what you want for the presidency which is a victory over Trump I thought that was the strongest part of his debate because it was something I didn't know that completely changed how I saw it because there's something there's something very not evil about the transparent he's bringing to the process he's

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he's bringing to the process he's telling you exactly what he's doing and then he does it in front of you he does it legally and he's not making any excuses for him he's saying I bought the house I'm gonna try to buy the election for you now here's the thing remember I said he didn't lie about anything that I can think of so you automatically had a little more credibility you give him because he's now lying about stuff but he's got some negatives let's talk about him and I'm gonna talking about how he hasn't quite done a good job talking about his you know MDAs and talking about a stop-and-frisk I'm gonna tell you how he could he couldn't do it better right gonna give us some suggestions so let's talk about and stop-and-frisk first here's how let's say you're the mayor so let's say you're Bloomberg and you inherited this program but you ran a way too long he

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program but you ran a way too long he did shut it down by 95 percent but he admits he ran it too long so he hasn't done a good job of explaining himself yet but he could and so let me give you an example of how I would do it the biggest thing that people care about is your intentions and he doesn't speak to that directly and he should because remember the intention of stop-and-frisk was a good one and I don't think anybody even disagrees with that so here's how I would say it and it'd be words to this effect so let's say I'm Mike Bloomberg and somebody says hey you you ran that stop and frisk wing and that was very racist what do you say to yourself I would say this the intention of stop and frisk was to take sides with the women and the children and the elderly in high crime neighborhoods if you think about it stop

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neighborhoods if you think about it stop and frisk was far more sexist and ageist than it was racist and if you don't see what I just did there I'll come back and explain it and I would say this I would say that most crime victims are minorities and it was a program that started before I was mayor and it started with good intentions I started to help the minority community where crime was rampant and I would say if you think it's being rated the youth if you think it was racist I think you're being too kind to it it was way more than racist it was sexist because we weren't stopping women and it was a gist we weren't stopping elderly we weren't stopping toddlers it was sexist it was ageist but we the police and the mayor we don't have a choice of where the crime is it's not up to us who commits crimes and it's not up to us where they commit them it's our job as

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where they commit them it's our job as the police force as the mayor to put law enforcement where there's the most crime that's what we did and we absolutely targeted young men in those areas where there were high crime now was that right well it was an experiment and I would say it was an experiment that did not work the blind spot we had is how it would feel to the community if feels racist and that was a far bigger cost than anybody hoped there was nobody who was behind stop and frisk who had the intention to make things worse for the community but there was a blind spot that that it came across as racist and in retrospect I think we would all agree had more impact on one group then another that's racist by definition but the intention was positive it was absolutely sexist because we were targeting men it was absolutely a just because we were targeting young men and we're targeting

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targeting young men and we're targeting young men who were not dressed for church if you know what I mean now we wouldn't do it again we learned from it now here's here's the next part of my persuasion as mayor I inherited this program and I accept responsibility for not
not shutting it down sooner and I would like to promise all of my critics they should any of my critics ever do anything right in the future I'll be the first one to tell them they should have done it sooner because you can't do something that's right soon enough and so to my critics who say I didn't shut it down soon enough you're right you can never be soon enough for something that's the right thing to do I've apologized for it I just want you to know the intentions were right I hope we all learned something from it it's not something we do again and the the impact was unforgivable is that better how would you feel about that because

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how would you feel about that because the key the key here is that the intentions were good and that you were intending to discriminate but it was against men who were young do you know how many people are willing to discriminate against young men a lot doesn't matter what your ethnicity is young men do commit a lot of crimes it's true I was a young man I know all right so then the other thing he gets he gets he hasn't done a good job of is defending his non-disclosure agreements and apparently he said some offensive things that made people uncomfortable we don't know the details and he even says he doesn't remember the details and I actually think that might be true I think he actually doesn't remember what he might have said that would have caused the problem long ago here's how I would have responded to that uh-huh Mayor Bloomberg

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responded to that uh-huh Mayor Bloomberg you you have some NDA's and they were offensive now the first thing he did is that he agreed to release the people from their NDA's which was a total baller move I gotta say that was a strong play he just released them and just said if they want to talk to you it's okay with me they're released now I don't know if anybody will because NDA's you know are to the benefit of both parties right the people may not think is worth it but I love the fact that he just released them he didn't even argue about it right there was no point in which he pushed back he looked into it you released them yeah I'd love to know what they say but here's how I here's how I would respond to that Mayor Bloomberg you know what about those bad things you said about women so I'd say some version is I don't recall what I said to offend but let me

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recall what I said to offend but let me confess to having an unfiltered sense of humor that can come off as offensive so the first thing you need to do just totally own it I think he does I think he is totally owning it but when he when he said you know he could have owned it a little better than to say well you may be a joke was taken wrong if you say a joke was taken wrong you're putting responsibility on the victim so I think he did that wrong he should have been a little more generous about taking it all and I'll say my sentence again I don't recall what I said to offend so he said knitting he was offensive but let me confess to having an unfiltered
sense of humor that can come off as offensive now why that's persuasive is that most people believe that they themselves have unfiltered sense of humors it's very common so everybody who thinks that over themselves just heard him say that he was like them oh yeah unfiltered sense of humor oh yeah I've done that if I've had an unfiltered

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done that if I've had an unfiltered sense of humor a little guilty of that so I get it and then he admits that it can come off as being offensive here's the second part I never intend to offend intentions are really important it's something it's a theme I come back to people are judging people by their actions and we infer their intentions I'll go he's racist he's whatever so you should say directly what your intentions were because that's what people are looking for and for some reason politicians don't speak that way they should say my intention is this if it doesn't work out you know that will change something but the intention is to do this so I'd say never intended to offend and I apologize unreservedly for any discomfort I caused so any kind of apology like that is good and then here's here's what I would add I would say I think society as a whole has gotten smarter about that stuff and everybody would agree it's like oh yeah

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everybody would agree it's like oh yeah Society has has evolved and then I would say and I welcome you to judge me by my current behavior do you see what I did there I I just basically said we've all evolved so we're all better than we used to be judge me by my current behavior I'm not really that the same person that was 20 years ago but because guess what neither are you you know none of us are the same people we were 20 years ago we've all gotten smarter judge me by Who I am today now imagine if he had said that instead of well some people you know may I take my joke wrong which really did put the the blame on the victim if you will all right so I think Bloomberg probably could do a whole lot better fixing the holes he has I think he's owned it all which is important and he is shown a track record of success

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he is shown a track record of success this seems relevant to the presidency he's already shown that he can buy the presidency now here's here's the other hidden magic of what Bloomberg is doing do you think that if Bernie is the candidate Bloomberg will spend his hundreds of millions to get Democrats elected in Congress woody because remember Bloomberg thinks that Birdy's policies would be a disaster so if Bloomberg if you can imagine a scenario where Bernie gets the nomination Bloomberg might turn off the spigot right if I understand Bloomberg's position he thinks that Bernie would be a disaster so I don't think he's gonna vote more democratic or help us fund more Democrats - you have a stronger position in Congress if that would make Bernie capable of getting what he says he wants

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capable of getting what he says he wants so the biggest problem that the Democrats have is if they if they nominate a centrist even if it's not Bloomberg they probably still get Bloomberg's money you know what I mean but if they nominate I would say either Bernie or maybe Warren I think Bloomberg would turn it off because he doesn't want those policies to become national policy so if you take all of the things I've said together which is Bloomberg did nothing to hurt himself did a really good job of saying his accomplishments took full ownership of the things he's criticized for and I think he'd that Manan see - and at those at handling those flaws but they're not deadly because he's accepted them fully which really takes the power out of them and when you add in the power of his money there would not accrue to the

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money there would not accrue to the Sanders candidacy and you throw in the fact that he doesn't act his age and you throw in the fact that he's got it he had a little more personality but wouldn't you say even on that stage even though he doesn't have the you know the million wattage personality of a Trump on that stage he had more charisma than most wouldn't you say let me ask you know I still think he'll be slaughtered by Trump right I don't I don't think Trump has any any realistic chance of losing unless something new happens between now and election that's unanticipated somebody says he's unlikable I don't know about that I do not find at Bloomberg unlikable he's not fun but he looks sincere I don't think he's lied he's got a track record and he's not acting is a and he's got a kajillion dollars I think

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and he's got a kajillion dollars I think he's the guy to beat right now so we'll see if the Democrats are clever enough to to give him the nomination I'm not predicting that they will I'm just saying they he's certainly the one who has the the the commanding advantage right now it may be too late though all right coronavirus yeah I don't know what to believe about this coronavirus the only thing I'm sure of is that our data is bad I do think there's a nonzero chance that we will be asked to we citizens will be asked to stay out of public gatherings for a few weeks I think that's likely but we're not going to die most of us some of us will did you see the I shouldn't laugh about this but the Iranian politician who is

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this but the Iranian politician who is in charge of you know the coronavirus response and apparently got the corona virus and the reason everybody knew about it is he was on TV doing an announcement and it was sweating like a pig and he was obviously suffering from it but the other interesting part is that that politician at least based on one thing I saw I can't and that I'm not certain this as a fact so fact check me on this but I believe that politician to who who has been confirmed to have the corona virus that with the Ayatollah right before that I mean I don't know if is the same day or or recently but think about that the Ayatollah met personally with this guy hat who has the corona virus the corona virus isn't deadly to most people but it's pretty dangerous if you're if you're a certain age and the Ayatollah is there is a nonzero chance

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Ayatollah is there is a nonzero chance that the corona virus will change the regime in Iran think about that I mean I don't know what the odds are probably 5% but it's held there all right that's all you got for now I will talk to you later