Episode 831 Scott Adams: Bernie’s “Fact Sheet” on Paying for Stuff, Biden’s Senate Bid, Coronavirus

Date: 2020-02-25 | Duration: 49:59

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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a Justice Sotomayor accuses conservative supremes of bias Anti-Bernie media ramping up Coronavirus, is there something we are NOT being told? Bernie’s “Fact Sheet” needs SIMPLIFICATION What motivates Bernie supporters? “Addict-Town” a place for addicts to live and work

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pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom hey everybody come on in here come on gather round yes look for your Cup look for your mug you still have a little bit of time run for it run because you know what's coming up it's called the simultaneous if it's the best thing in the world the best thing in the entire universe the best thing in every dimension simulated or not and all you need is a cup or a mug or glass a tanker geologist I in the canteen jerker flask a vessel of any kind and fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that dopamine to the day the thing makes everything better it's called the simultaneous sip go you know compared to the coronavirus that coffee is better way better so let's talk about some things happening in the

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talk about some things happening in the news Harvey Weinstein let's go into jail I find that I don't care about what Harvey Weinstein I'm happy that the the women involved are getting some justice but otherwise I don't care about it so good for the women that's all I got to say about that there's an excellent fake fight happening right now and what I say it's a fake fight I mean it's really just for entertainment and it's between two members of the Supreme Court and the president so I guess justice son of my heir accused has been well I guess recently she accused that the GOP appointed justices of being to in the bag for Trump so soda by ear is saying that the court is packed with Trump supporters now and so they're just backing the president and then the

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backing the president and then the president heard that comment and also remember that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had once said some thing bad about him being president and so the president in his inimitable style
suggested that the two liberal judges so to my ear and Ruth Bader Ginsburg should recuse themselves from any decisions that involve the president now I could not love this more because first of all it doesn't matter right it doesn't affect your life it doesn't affect anything because you know nothing's gonna be different because if anything the president said or anything that the that the justices sent so there's no downside risk it is purely for entertainment that we're watching this and the president has this incredible ability to break some kind of expectation or norm just enough that you can't look away

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can't look away and here he's doing it again right he's not supposed to be criticizing another branch of government and it looks like he's he's being a dictator or he's having too much influence where he shouldn't maybe he should just stay out of it but don't you love the fact that he didn't stay out of it from a purely entertainment perspective don't you love hearing this opinion unstuff he's not supposed to give you his opinion on there aren't many things that entertained me more than that every time the president talks about a topic that all the smart people say he's not supposed to be talking about I say tune in tune in what do you got to say about that topic you're not supposed to be talking about you got you had me at now supposed to be talking about it so none of this makes a difference but I think it's hilarious that Trump puts that out there that they should recuse themselves yeah it's not going to happen but oh my god it's just the most perfectly prankster thing to say in this

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perfectly prankster thing to say in this situation all right there's a question and I guess Howard Kurtz was asking it and others has the press given Bernie too much of a free pass and I think maybe and usually what they're talking about is the the impracticality of what he's suggesting but what's going to happen when the left turns on him which you already see happening you know a lot of the left has turned on them what will happen when both CNN and Fox News are saying every day all day don't vote for Bernie because that's kind of coming isn't it all right don't we don't we have for the first time ever a common enemy I mean Bernie has done what nobody else could do you know before it was at you know roughly let's say 40% of the country Democrat 40% of Republican and a bunch

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Democrat 40% of Republican and a bunch of people who pretend not to be aligned so it looked like we're just this divided country but somehow Bernie has given us a common enemy which is Bernie now common means that three-quarters of the public are going to say I don't see how any of this is going to work we'd better keep this guy in an office now a quarter of the public maybe more could be 40% before we're done are going to say yeah he's the man we can make this work or some version of that but I think CNN MSNBC and Fox News are all going to be pushing against Bernie for president you know you all know Jennifer Rubin right and you know that she's very anti Trump probably she's most famous for not being even a little bit subtle about her bias I mean that that's probably what she's most famous for is not being objective which is a hell of a thing to

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objective which is a hell of a thing to be famous for but there it is and I looked at her her Twitter feed and that is non-stop anti Bernie and it's she's going hard at him and if Jennifer Rubin a famous anti Trump er is going full out anti Bernie he can't be our president I think there's going to be more of that you know we already saw Anderson Cooper push back on Bernie in an interview we saw the the james carville pushing back a lot of people pushing back but Jennifer Rubin and I couldn't find the tweet but I'm pretty sure I saw this suggested that Biden who I believe she's backing because she's saying good things about him she's saying the Biden could reduce his campaign up by by picking a vice president campaign you know partner early and a person of color and a woman

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early and a person of color and a woman who has some pizzazz so that was Jennifer Rubens term for some pizzazz and of course people on the left detector for saying what you're treating these female potential vice president candidates like their accessories they're not there just to add pizzazz you know there are serious serious professionals so of course the left is eating itself which is could not be more entertaining but here's the interesting part Jennifer Rubin suggested two people in particular Stacy Abrams and and cobble eros as a Biden potential VP pick that he could announce early to give a little energy to his campaign now is that signaling that Joe Biden is sort of what the let's say the elites and the Democratic you know Clinton machine whatever is left of it it's kind of saying that's who they want

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it's kind of saying that's who they want to win right because Camilla would be the stealth of president even if she got elected as vice president so I would like to tease you again by saying if you think the Kamala Harris campaign is over maybe not she might have a way to go to the front of the line now what would happen if Biden does well in the upcoming States what if he does well what what if he comes out on top in South Carolina and then does solidly respectable Super Tuesday is does that make Bernie is still the you know the odds-on favorite I think it might change things now I don't know if Biden has anything left in the tank because every day we get a new gaff so today's new gaff from Joe Biden I guess I happened yesterday he actually said this as he was closing

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he actually said this as he was closing up his campaign rally he said my name is Joe Biden I'm a Democratic candidate for the United States Senate looked me over if you like he's not running for the Senate that's the punch line there and he says look me over if you like what you see help out if not vote for the other Biden what look me over if you like what you see help out if not vote for the other Biden what the hell is he talking about it is there anybody who's not noticing this at this point now I'm this is actually a direct quote that I copied and pasted from a news article so I'm assuming they quoted him correctly I I don't think it's a typo but he actually said he was running for the United States Senate and if you don't like him vote for the other Biden who's

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like him vote for the other Biden who's that his wife where is it hunter his hunter running hunter are you running so I don't know I just don't see a scenario where Joe Biden looks like a serious candidate and when I see Jennifer Rubin saying hey about naming a vice president I think that's acknowledging that he doesn't have enough left you know in his career and and in reserve to be President it's kind of saying he needs a backup plan and that might get him over the line was he
on Monday the deputy Health Minister who's working on Iran's coronavirus task force he he rejected claims that the government was downplaying how bad it was in the RAM so the guy in charge of the coronavirus response in Iran was saying no no it's not as bad as you

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saying no no it's not as bad as you think and then on Tuesday authorities confirmed that that guy has coronavirus that's right the guy in charge of the coronavirus response in Iran who just sat in public it's not as bad as you think has the coronavirus now Iran is pretty scary because the numbers coming out of there which and I don't think you can believe anything about numbers coming out of Iran but there what we have is that there are 95 confirmed cases and 15 confirmed deaths if that's even close to true we're in a lot of trouble but how reliable is this and it's not very reliable now I think what we're seeing so far is that the places that have the best capability of reporting have also the lowest reported death rate now I

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the lowest reported death rate now I want to see if that trend continues so in other words the United States Canada etc there are some countries that you would assume would be pretty good at accurately reporting the records or at least better than other countries and that whatever you have a country that's good at reporting the death rate seems to be you know lowish but the places that are bad at reporting or you don't trust them at all it looks a lot scarier so I don't know if that's a pattern that means anything but keep an eye on that all right
apparently the the Wuhan weapons lab has not been ruled out as a possible cause now the people talking about this are always very careful with their language because to say something's not ruled out certainly doesn't mean it's likely and I guess the experts are now pretty much agreed that there's nothing about the coronavirus itself that has any markers for being engineered so it doesn't look

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for being engineered so it doesn't look like it was engineered but that doesn't mean it didn't come from a bio weapon lab because I'm guessing no bio weapons expert but wouldn't you think that a bio weapons lab would have a variety of dangerous viruses and other entities just to study them because maybe they're combining things maybe they're looking for what they can learn about one to tell them how to design another one that sort of thing so what are the odds that the thing that got out of a bio weapons center was something that they didn't design not impossible but I would say that the evidence is not certainly not weighted in that direction at this point if you had to bet I'd say bet on an animal but you can't rule out the more exotic possibilities rush limbaugh is saying just recently there's basically

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saying just recently there's basically like a cold and that we're taking it out of context and the problem you know it might not be a higher death rate than every flu we have every year so we might be blowing a tenth of and if proportion but as Mike Serna vich is saying almost every hour on Twitter the real problem might be what it does to the supply chain which we're already seeing which is why the the stock market went down and that might be the biggest problem now why is it that no other flu has had this effect on supply lines what is it about this thing that somebody knows that makes a difference so I worry that we're there's something about this virus that's different and we're not being told so that's pretty scary

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let's see what else we got going on a lot of people are starting to speculate how the corona virus will change politics and in particular will have an impact on the presidential election and I think it will but it's going to be hard to sort out the the pushes and the polls so here are the things that might be affected so for one it makes you think differently about healthcare and you might say to yourself you know we would all be safer if all of us had health care because you don't want some person who has no health care to be running around infecting people where if they had been part of the system maybe could have been spotted and stopped a little sooner so I think Bernie gets a boost anytime there's a story that would make you think it'd be better for all of us if everybody was covered so that's pro Bernie but working against that is that there there's an analogy here that's I will say nature's analogy so

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that's I will say nature's analogy so it's not one that necessarily people are saying but you can't miss it have a complete ban on Muslims in immigration until we could figure out what's going on with terrorism now how did people react to that of course they said it's just racist because you know ninety nine point whenever a percent of Muslims are no danger at all and it would be a great act of discrimination against them if you prevented everybody to come in just because of this one or two percent or less there might be a problem but here's the thing without anybody telling you to compare these things what's the difference between a population of people who were almost completely innocent but some of them and he can't tell which ones have this virus now what's the real difference between an idea virus like a bad philosophy that would cause you to

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bad philosophy that would cause you to do bad things and an actual physical virus well there's you know a material physical difference in the you know the molecules and the and the particles and whatnot so there's that difference but in terms of how the government handles it it's strangely the same isn't it and I think that this is going to work in the president's favor even if nobody besides me ever talks about it because your mind makes these comparisons somewhat automatically and the comparison I think people are going to start to make with or without any pundits ever mentioning it is that the coronavirus in terms of how the public or the government should respond to it looks a whole lot like a group of people infected with a bad political idea that leads to terrorism in both cases well so in the case of the corona virus when the president stopped

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corona virus when the president stopped travel from China what did the public say well first the public said hey that's a little race wait how many people are dying in China well it's still if you if you stop only Chinese people from coming in it's still a really racist tell me again how many people are dying in China and I think people that talked themselves into the fact that discriminating against people from China actually makes complete sense because it's just a health question it's not personal has nothing to do the quality of Chinese people we love the Chinese just as much as always but there's a statistical risk that's of the moment and it matters so I think you watched an entire population say no no don't discriminate against the Chinese okay it's just for health purposes it's temporary till we figure out what's going on I can live with it people are

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going on I can live with it people are going to start comparing that to the proposed Muslim ban which again was until we figured out you know a better idea of what to do about it which happened so the president decided that the right risk/reward place was to just ban countries that couldn't give you a good idea of their citizens it's not the same as a Muslim ban but it's a smart way to get to you know the most critical element which is can you identify who's coming in so I think the president gains on immigration even if nobody ever makes the comparison overtly the way I just did you just can't not compare them an idea verse and virus verses an actual virus they act so much the same I think that the idea of decoupling from China which started out as sounding too extreme now looks like a better idea even though the virus is the worst

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even though the virus is the worst reason for decoupling you know reasonably speaking you shouldn't be decoupling your economy from another country because of a virus well it's probably not the right reason but it's making people think about it so I think that emotionally because people are afraid of health things and viruses and you know things they can't see you know that's what's scary about a virus you can't see it I feel as though people are going to be more inclined toward going hard at China and decoupling just because of the way this feels even though logically that wouldn't it wouldn't make sense the other thing that's interesting here is that coronavirus is a very rare situation in our world in which we all have a common enemy and that's a big deal because you know that what in times of peace governments will invent enemies just so they have something to impose so they might invent

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something to impose so they might invent you know some ethnic group is our enemy because you need an enemy right it's good for governments for cohesion to have an enemy but when was the last time we had a common enemy ever as a revurb and a common enemy for for all citizens everywhere on the globe maybe the last time there was a pandemic but I don't know that the countries were coordinating probably not as well as as well as they do now so there's something to be said for battling a common enemy because you're probably watching the news and you're you're hearing that North Korea is reporting that they don't have any but of course they probably do don't you actually worry about North Korea like when I hear that North Korea is getting the coronavirus or there's no reporting of that but you assume that's happening don't you immediately feel empathy for the citizens who are minding your own business and because of their government they won't be in a good shape

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government they won't be in a good shape to deal with this so you know you could say that climate change is the common enemy but people don't believe it there there are not enough people on that side but everybody believes the corona virus is a common enemy have we ever can can you think of another example because yeah somebody says malaria but even malaria wasn't really coming to the United States was it yeah so don't overlook how powerful it might be to force us to work together let me give you an example I may have some of this history wrong so somebody's gonna have to fact-check me on this but around the time maybe just before the iron curtain came down and the Soviet Union dissolved I remember that there was some horrible earthquake in Russia and the United States even though we were you know not that friendly with the USSR obviously we offered unconditional

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USSR obviously we offered unconditional free assistance and I said to myself I think that's gonna change something because the United States and Russia are supposed to be enemies but when this natural disaster happened I mean the Soviet Union when the natural disaster happened the United States this suppose a great enemy to the Soviet Union just said how can we give you stuff how could we help and then we did and I think a lot of citizens donated US citizens donated a lot of that money went and help and soon after that the Soviet Union dissolved and I think at least part of it was they couldn't and this is just my speculation because it might have been just they ran out of money and it was just time to yeah there could have been lots of reasons it fell apart but one of the reasons I think is that the United States no longer made a made sense as an enemy because what do you do

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sense as an enemy because what do you do about an enemy who sends you relief when you have a natural disaster is that really your enemy so I've said this before but Russia and the United States just need to figure out some way out of this psychological stupidity of thinking that we should be or our enemies we act like it because we think it's true but there's no reason for it we could just as easily stop acting that way and nobody would be hurt and everybody would be better off so these this common enemy thing might be more powerful than you think on the upside that's the most optimistic take I could take out it and then what might happen to a rat Iran was already reeling right so they had that you you know all the problems with Iran can they take one more national disaster Iran is right on the on the brink you know between the sanctions and everything else what happens if they've already closed down their borders I mean that as

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closed down their borders I mean that as have as the regime survived or does this strengthen them because they maybe they want to keep their government if if it looks like the government is doing something right I don't know if there are if they are let's talk about Bernie I think I tweeted this this morning I think Bernie is only one interview away from extinction but it would have to be the right kind of interviewer you'd need an interviewer who had some credibility about economics somebody who clearly understands economics but also knows how to frame a question right and really pin him down and you know so I've cheekily said that all it would take is one long-form interview with Maria bad aroma and he would be another race yeah now I use Maria as just an example of somebody who understands the financial world and also can do a tough interview she has

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also can do a tough interview she has the talent stack not everybody has the right combination of talents to even have that conversation does Anderson Cooper now I think Anderson Cooper was pretty hard on Bernie and did a did a pretty good journalist job of you know nailing him down and making him uncomfortable and forcing him to the answer but I don't think Anderson Cooper has the financial talent that somebody like Maria Bartiromo would bring to it or really any of the CNBC legacy people
and I wonder if you know if Bernie is trying to make the meek in her inherit the earth because I've got a feeling that the people who most like Bernie are the people who feel vulnerable makes sense right because he's the one who's going to give you free stuff and take care of your basic needs so if you feel vulnerable in society in other words your meek you're not the go-getter who is trying to win it all in capitalism you probably like Bernie so

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capitalism you probably like Bernie so bernie is actually helping the meek inherit the earth but weirdly enough I mean that's almost directly what he's doing so that's fun but I was he Bernie was forced to put out a little fact sheet about how he's going to pay for everything and I want to read to you just this one portion of a larger fact sheet that's filled with numbers and percentages and stuff that's way too complicated so I'm just going to pick out one part of it and show you how complicated they made it and then I'm gonna tell you what you should say instead so this would be a lesson in persuasion taking a cue from President Trump who knows how to simplify he knows who he's talking to the public you gotta simplify here's what Bernie's fact she says and again this isn't the whole fact sheet it's much larger than this there's lots of points about different policies and how to pay for them but just this one point he says

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for them but just this one point he says and I quote now see it's watch how complicated this is and this is them trying to make it simple and still watch how complicated it is so the fact she says in 2018 the typical working family paid an average of six thousand and fifteen dollars in premiums to private health insurance companies under this option a typical family of four earning $60,000 would pay a 4% income based premium to fund Medicare for all an income above 29,000 just one thousand two hundred forty dollars a year saving that family four thousand seven hundred seventy five a year families of four making less than twenty nine thousand year would not pay a premium now if you're fairly smart and educated and you pay attention to that you you know what that means all right I would say that sentence is sufficiently clear that a reasonably education educated person could read it and really understand what it says but it's way too complicated

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it says but it's way too complicated watch this I'm going to take that whole paragraph with all those numbers and first of all if you tried to sell something to the public don't say it's gonna save you six thousand and fifteen dollars a year you could do a little rounding off how about rounding off a few of these numbers here's how I would say it a typical working family would pay a thousand dollars extra in taxes to save five thousand dollars in health care expenses see what I did there I took their one thousand two hundred and forty dollars I just had called a thousand and that I took theirs their savings of four thousand seven hundred and seventy five dollars and said call it five thousand now how much better is my explanation than Bernie's what you remember forever typical working family they're going to pay a thousand more in taxes to save to save five thousand dollars in health care per year am I

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dollars in health care per year am I right did I not just explain Bernie's see a thousand percent better than Bernie ever has all I did was round off and get rid of the stuff that doesn't matter got rid of it
now he also has a whole bunch of different ways he wants to tax the rich and some of them have to do with a wealth tax depending on what thing he's funding some have to do with taxing financial transactions some of them have to do with more Social Security tax for the rich people does it cuts off if you're rich after a certain point you'd like to stop that cut off so basically he has like five different ways he's going to tax the rich now one advantage is that if nobody understands exactly what he's doing and nobody can talk to it because it's too complicated people will just retreat to their biases so if Bernie's supporters say you know it's all kind of complicated and I can't say

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all kind of complicated and I can't say I follow at all but he's heading in the right direction I'm just gonna say that's good we'll work it out meanwhile the people were trying to debunk it we're gonna try to do it line by line say hey what about this complicated numbers you forgot to calculate this and nobody's gonna be able to follow it so because of its complexity it's hard to debunk because you really have to get into the details and nobody can pay attention nobody understands nobody would watch so it's undeb uncle because of its complexity but it's also unsellable because of its complexity so he could do a lot better there let me give you an example of how you could simplify the taxes on the rich I'm not suggesting this is a good idea this is an example of simplification only it's not a suggestion for how to run the country but suppose you said this

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apparently we pay about half a trillion dollars a year just servicing the debt so the national debt cost taxpayers half a trillion a year just for the interest part forget about paying it down that's just the interest half a trillion a year so suppose you're Bernie and you to simplify things because it's all too complicated and you say this I propose that we will move the the interest and the debt burden entirely to the top 1% in other words you'll say if you're not in the top 1% none of that national debt will ever look true to you and if you drop out of the 1% then you don't owe it either but you just say that's it I'm just going to move all of our national debt to the rich here's my reason yeah it will free up half a trillion dollars a year that we don't have to pay an interest and that money can then be used for services or to prevent the Defra going up I suppose now this is not really a practical plan you

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this is not really a practical plan you probably see all the holes in it but think of it as a simplification that just helps them sell a big complicated thing if I just said to you well here's the deal the top 1% are going to take all of the national debt because they're the ones responsible for it and they're the ones who benefited from it so the 1% you can take all the national debt and that will free up enough money that we can we can chip away at all these other things like health care and paying down student debt and stuff like that so that's not that's not a good full idea but it's an idea of how much you would need to simplify this until you could get to I'm gonna build a wall and I'm gonna make Mexico pay for it I mean that's a good simplification somebody says define the top 1% yeah I mean if you dig into the details none of it works I'm just saying that as a simplification it might be good I've seen various theories about why Sanders

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seen various theories about why Sanders support might be bigger than people imagine and that therefore he's going to win in a surprise just like Trump did because people are under estimating the depth of the Bernie support and I'm fascinated by the reasons that people are putting on it and I guess there are so many people who support him that they have different reasons and so it's not one reason but here are some of the ones I'm hearing one of the reasons people like Bernie is that his supporters just like the fight in other words they like that he's fighting for them the working people the or the young who don't yet have money and they just feel like he's on their side and they don't take too seriously his proposals so in other words a lot of his supporters don't believe that he's going to do the things he says he wants to do the yoke is obviously Congress would step in and not do those things but they just like somebody who's on their side that's not a bad a bad take I would say that Trump

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a bad a bad take I would say that Trump had some some of that kind of supporter as well others say he's a populist I actually had to look up populist did you know what a populist was because it's sort of a weird word you don't hear that much but I actually have to look it up I wasn't sure what it meant yes so a populist means someone who represents the common people now I think that's another way of saying that the common people since there are so many of them they're common that whatever they want should be the the popular opinion so if you just say what the common people want you're you're you're a populist does you're in the majority I guess now so I guess people would like him and that's that's really the same reason he's fighting for the little people I've also heard the theory that that his supporters just want to blow up the system they're just so sick of business the way it's been they're very much like some Trump supporters they just wanted

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some Trump supporters they just wanted to break the government but I would argue that Trump's doing a pretty good job of breaking the old form of the government so I'm not totally convinced that they need Sanders to do that you know maybe they think they could take it further but let's say that's part of it then there's the obvious that people like free stuff if I were a student with $100,000 of student debt I'm I support Bernie I might because it would be in my vast self-interest to do so I mean it's a hundred thousand dollars I'll vote for the guy who can give me a hundred thousand dollars of other people's money and but I I'm gonna add one two so here's my addition to it I think there are just people who like to be active and people who don't politically active so no matter the situation and no matter the candidates I think the same group of voters would be the activists because they're just some people who like to be activists you know

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people who like to be activists you know and if you took away if they solved the problem that they were activists about the day it was solved they would become activists on a different problem so I'm starting with the assumption that people who like to get involved and like to get worked up about things are going to get involved and get worked up about something and then they have to choose what it is I feel that backing Bertie is a lifestyle decision and here's what I mean if you back President Trump can you say so in public it's hard right backing Trump is socially very difficult and you have to know that you're going to take a hit to do it so you know it's a risk but what about you know can you imagine backing Hillary Clinton so a lot of people backed Hillary Clinton how did they feel today it seems like backing Hillary Clinton was a little bit

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Hillary Clinton was a little bit dangerous and maybe a lot of people didn't want to admit even if they were Democrats and even if they preferred her over the alternative they might not want to admit because Hillary has got kind of a rough reputation but what about Bernie until this week when a lot of his old videos surfaced where he seemed to be complimenting Castro or at least that's way it was fun it wasn't exactly that that was happening but it was fun that way until then it wasn't he the safest candidate to support let's say you're you're in your 20s and your life is social you go out a lot you have friends you go to work you're around people all the time and your social life is very important to you your 20s of course it's important and you look around and you say to yourself everybody who sports Trump is getting mocked everybody who supports you know some standard Democrat can also get mocked you know a Hillary Clinton type

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mocked you know a Hillary Clinton type but nobody's really mocking Bernie Sanders and in the way that hurts certainly has lots of criticisms but they're not really the kind of their hurt he's the safest lifestyle choice if you have to tell somebody in public who you supported you could tell here's the key you could tell a trump supporter that you support Bernie and what would the Trump supporters say well I think his economics don't work but I kind of like Bernie right even the Trump supporter is gonna say I don't want to miss my president but you're okay I could see why you would support him I mean you're not crazy he's offering to give you free stuff he's fighting for you he cares about the little people he's been genuine I get it right you don't really get that response if somebody had been back in Clinton you know it's you're gonna get a darker response to that so I think that may be the most important thing with Sanders is that he's the

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thing with Sanders is that he's the lifestyle compatible candidate you can simply say it out loud and you don't have to worry about the ramifications he's easy unique that way I was asking on Twitter what country I should flee to should the United States become a Bernie Sanders country now am i serious what I really believe the United States if Bernie Sanders became president well it would depend if the Congress flipped and it was a let's say it was a Republican in Congress well I wouldn't worry too much about Bernie I'd probably stick it out but imagine if imagine of Bernie Goetz elect and against all odds he goes on to consolidate the Congress I'm getting out right at that point you got to get pretty serious about getting out if you have any money that you want to protect

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have any money that you want to protect and I was asking you what country is would people go to and I was getting and I said for safety and as well as economics and so as people who said well how about the Caribbean to which I said to myself it's not going to be an island you know I said safety I'm not going to Puerto Rica I'm not going to an island I also would be a little hesitant to be right on the coast just depending on the coast you got your hurricanes so I'm not going to go anywhere where there's a hurricane risk that's not safe I don't want to go anywhere where there's a political risk you know there might be a an overthrow or a coup or something and I don't want to go someplace where the taxes are too high I don't want to go where I'm discriminated against and the more I thought about it yeah Costa Rica Costa Rica is smallish and it's got two coasts

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Rica is smallish and it's got two coasts so I'm not sure how I was safe Costa Rica's but it would be high in the list but the point is the United States doesn't have any competition do you root because when you actually sit down and say all right I can go anywhere in the world and if it's not going to be the United States where am I going to go I did see Australia and Switzerland mentioned quite a few times well Australia's not bad I'd have to look at their tax situations Wyoming all right so there's not much competition let me talk about an idea I want to put out there in in the comments I want you to ask answer this question how many of you and you can just say yes or no you don't have to add anything if you don't want how many of you your lives are negatively impacted by addiction now it doesn't have to be your own addiction it

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doesn't have to be your own addiction it could be a spouse family member or loved one friend coworker how many of you are being negatively impacted in a serious way because of somebody has an addiction and it might be you so there's a little delay in the comments or wait for that and the reason I'm asking is because I want to put out a suggestion I know some when my own stepson was going through his addiction problems we did a lot of research about what do you do you know where do you send people and the answer is there's not really any place to send addicts there are super expensive places I've been super expensive that really are going to work for 99% of the world and then there are just no other options or there are there are places that maybe are one home and you go to somebody who's very little neighborhood home and there are some other addicts trying to recover but it's just as one house and

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recover but it's just as one house and as soon as you leave that one house while you're back in the real world with all the risks and people just fall back so here's my suggestion I think we need to build an advocate town okay you're seeing all the yeses coming in in the comments it's nearly a hundred percent yes I do see some noes okay not a hundred percent but looks like 80% yeses well I should wait for a little bit maybe half so I think some of you have are more effective than you know about you might not know how much it's affecting you but addiction is the biggest problem we have in the United States that's not being handled we have big problems but we mostly have we know what to do about them using the coronavirus we know what to do we're just doing it as quickly as we can but for addiction it's just ruining families

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for addiction it's just ruining families all over the place it's ruining the economy I mean it's just ruining everything and the reason I would suggest building an addict town is that you would make an entirely self-contained community that's got its own stores services and people can work there and live there and just not leave now if they get a really good control of their addiction they can leave if they want but you make it a place you can go to live not a place that you go to spend not a place that you're going to spend twenty thousand dollars a month to to live there because it's an addict treatment place just the place to live that you would give searched anytime you came in to make sure there were no drugs so there would be no alcohol sold and and you wouldn't let anybody in who wasn't a recovering addict so it would be hard to get in if you were a drug dealer and you know obviously somebody would try then you'd have to kick him out but and here's the second part the

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out but and here's the second part the avek down should be built from scratch here's one of the most important things for housing and I don't hear anybody talk about this I think I'm the only one the most important thing to get right for housing is to be with people who are in the same situation as you are so what I mean by that is if you live in the community and you've got let's say two small kids in school the best situation is he live around a bunch of other people who have kids in school because then they play with each other that carrot the parents take turns driving you share a lot of the duties kids always have something to do somebody help them with homework likewise if you're single let's say you're single in your 20s the last thing you want is to live around a bunch of kids and senior citizens so pretty much everybody is happier living around people who are in their situation and I think that's true for addicts as well

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think that's true for addicts as well because the last thing that addicts want to do is live in a world where everybody else is going out and drinking they can't fit in that's very uncomfortable so the first thing to get right is that people who are substantially like you in some important way are the people around you that's why a college dorm can be the best lifestyle while being the least expensive you know just a little room with two people have shoved in in a shared bathroom and it's still the best time of your life it's because you're around people that are like you and you're doing stuff that you want to do learning etc so this is how it should be designed if you design a víctima from you know the person or the one house oh I'll have one house and people will go here I just don't think it's stuff I think you need to build entire towns and people just got to move and just say I'm going to live here as long as it takes and I'm not going to be an addict here because

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not going to be an addict here because there's nothing here I couldn't be an addict if I wanted to and then the if you start from scratch and build it you can do things like experiment and lower the cost of the housing and try to try to build a lifestyle that's an ideal engineered situation and then people will be happy to live there and I think you can actually make you self-sustaining meaning that instead of paying twenty thousand dollars a month to be there it's just the place you rent so it's just a low-cost city and you'd have to have a job or a source of income but things would be cheap there all right that's all for now think about that talk about that later