Episode 829 Scott Adams: Why Bernie Can’t Beat Trump, California Homeless Solutions, Biden

Date: 2020-02-23 | Duration: 44:38

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hey everybody come on in it's time for coffee with Scott Adams today will be one of the best coffees with Scott Adams of all time because we've learned that coffee is even healthier than we thought how about that huh yes the recent science New York Times reports says that coffee is really really good for you so not only do we have the delight of the simultaneous seven but we're all going to be healthier in a moment those of us having coffee and all you need to participate is a cover of margaret glass detector chelators died in the canteen jurgen flask a vessel vedic eye and fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee because it's so healthy and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that don't fit me into the day the thing that makes everything better the simultaneous app go yes science

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the simultaneous app go yes science confirmed I feel healthier don't you I think you do alright how bad is it for the Democrats when one of the biggest conversations is which candidate Trump would destroy the most have we stopped even talking about Democrats winning the presidency I feel as if the conversation is shifting to how badly Trump will destroy whoever gets nominated probably Bernie speaking of Bernie what does it mean that Bernie has so much support from young people what's that tell you well I could tell you is bribing them with the money of old people I mean that's basically what he's doing he's transferring money from the old to the young so that'll get some young people but the problem is our young people the dumbest among us

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our young people the dumbest among us and I say this would love because everybody was young and if they're lucky they get older and I tried this following experiment with a teenager in my in my social world so recently a teenager was noting that you know she seemed to be as smart as an adult doesn't matter the topic and I said this have you ever noticed that you know more than you did when you were 6 years old try to try this with a person in their 20s person in their 20s says Bernie it's burning it's burning all the way and say this you know do you think you know as much as you did when you were 6 years old or do you know more are you smarter than you when you were 6 years old now anybody in their 20s is going to say yeah obviously now you say are you smarter than when you were let's say 14 you know now you're 25 are you smarter than when you

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you're 25 are you smarter than when you were 14 years old most people knew twenties will say oh yeah yeah I'm a lot smarter and here's here's the punchline do you think that stops the do you think that you're not going to be smarter at 40 then you are at 25 do you think there's any chance of that now you could argue that when you're 85 you might slow down and maybe a 25 year old is smarter than an 85 year old on average could be but you ask a 25 year old do you think you're gonna stop growing and you're not going to get any smarter or do you think it will be like every other year of your life where you get more experienced and smarter because if the people who are twice as experienced are generally thinking that the person you're voting for is a really bad idea but you don't see it what is the problem here now you can't really change

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here now you can't really change people's minds with this argument but it's a lot of fun get people to first agree that youth is associated with lack of experience and that we know that because all of us are smarter than we used to be there's no exception you can't find anybody who believes they were smarter of 14 than they were at 25 nobody's going to say that and so we have to look at the fact that there's a candidate who's getting a lot of the young vote and it's not a compliment if you don't I mean all right I wonder if there's anybody who will take this position in voting let's say let's say Sanders gets nominated will there be anybody who says I really really don't want Trump but on the other hand I don't want Barney to destroy the world with his socialism so what would you do well it's because you don't want a Bernie to destroy the world but you desperately don't want president Trump anymore how

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don't want president Trump anymore how would you vote I'm wondering if some people will do this the vote for Bernie and then vote for all Republicans in Congress just try to try to flip the house Republican why because Bernie if he's elected president means you don't have President Trump so that that mission might be accomplished for somebody who for whom that's the biggest mission but if you get Republicans in Congress birdie can't do anything he doesn't have any power so you can get rid of Trump without worrying about Bernie if you also flip the house now I wonder if I'm not by the way I'm not suggesting anybody take this path I'm wondering it's just a question is there anybody out there who says you know I just can't take Trump one more year but I can't take a risk on Bernie so I'm gonna vote in Republicans to keep him at bay I mean it could happen you can imagine somebody voting that way all

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imagine somebody voting that way all right does does does Bernie have persuasion skills the way Trump does and here's a filter I'm going to put this to let you see the whole race a little more clearly generally speaking money will predict outcomes if you follow the money you're generally going to be closer to a good prediction than if you don't you know ignoring the effect of money is just always the worst predicting mistake you could make and right now you have a situation let's see if you agree with the way I'm going to frame this politicians generally tried to bribe voters somehow I mean it's all bribes one way or the other the way Trump tried to do it is he tried to bribe the American voters with money from other countries right because Trump

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from other countries right because Trump was saying let's close down immigration which would be bad for the other countries but his argument would was that it would be good for especially in low income voters so he was explicitly trying to take money out of the hands of other countries and put it into the pockets of Americans in other words bribing Americans to vote for him look I'll give you money it's going to come from these other countries and I'll even make Mexico pay for the wall you could argue whether that happened or whether Mexico paying for their forces on their southern border to keep the caravans out is sort of like paying for the wall but the point is Trump said I'm gonna make other people pay our bills what did he say about NATO I'm gonna make other countries for more of the bill looks like free money what did Trump say about about spending instead of being a deficit Hawk he ran up the deficit

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deficit Hawk he ran up the deficit basically Trump said I'm going to give you money today and it's going to come out of people in the future I can take money from the future and give it to you today right that's what a debt is somebody in the future has to pay for it but today we give free money the other way Trump gave us free money or tried to bribe us is by cutting regulations and cutting taxes to Goose the economy if the economy's better it creates who creates money that where it didn't exist before and then Trump says hey we can all share on this money so Trump was bribing the public but bribing us with money that didn't yet exist and money from other countries and and money that maybe was even imaginary that's a that's a pretty good package because nobody who is a voter had to say oh I'm gonna give my money to somebody else it was all somebody else's money coming to us that's good persuasion and now let's

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that's good persuasion and now let's look at Bernie I don't know if you'll be able to see this too clearly but maybe you will so here's my little chart let's say Bernie gets the nomination well you could expect that Republicans are still gonna vote for Trump because Republicans are pretty unified right now so whether you are an older and richer or younger and poorer citizen if you're if you're a Republican or even the independent who usually votes Republican you're still going to be happy with your choice so you can expect that Trump will get pretty much all of the Republican vote then what about Bernie remember follow the money birdies plan is to take money from the older and/or richer part of the public it usually tends to be the same right it's not completely overlapping but it's the older people who have more money and

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the older people who have more money and he plans to take a lot of that away and give it to younger people so you should expect the younger people who would say hey free money yeah sign me up so if you're a Democrat and you're younger and or poorer tends to be the same but doesn't it have to be you're probably going to say you know that looks pretty good to be so I think Bernie could it be expected to get all of the younger for Democrats but what about the people who've got some money or they're a little richer let's say you were you are Chris Matthews let's say Chris Chris Matthews is up in this top left quadrant and and he's getting ready for retirement one assumes you know he's a he's at age where you started thinking about how much do I have I earned and what's my retirement looked like and all that and he's looking at working all of his life working really hard amassing a certain amount of money getting ready to retire and then Burnie is saying I'm gonna take that money that you earned fair and

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that money that you earned fair and square and I'm gonna give it to people who ran up big debts who really shouldn't have let's say student loans and did not work as hard as you do for their money yes Chris Matthews even though he's a Democrat going to vote to give his money that he worked all of his life and that was looking for his retirement and suddenly Bernie says I want to take the comfort of your retirement away and give it to people who did not do the hard work you did and did not do the right things is you know what is a what does Chris Mathews going to do is Chris Matthews gonna say yes it's good for other people that I have a less secure retirement and then I worked hard and then just sort of gave it to people who didn't is that going to be okay with Chris Matthews I'm gonna say no so I don't see any scenario in which Bernie can get the older richer that's on his side if you take the

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that's on his side if you take the filter that money is determinant so here's the basic problem Trump will be bribing the public with money that this imaginary is future money is potential money is money from other countries so no voters are out of pocket for that stuff and then and Bernie is doing the opposite you say I'm going to take money from the people who are above average in terms of their living conditions and I'm going to transfer it to people who are below average all the people above average should not vote for Bernie if they're going to vote for their own self-interest now you assume some people are going to do it anyway because they you know want a better world they're not doing the math good or you know so people will still take the sub optimal path but I think money is really predictive and birdie has a proposition which is half of the people who should be voting for him should be able to look at it and say you know I'm in the half

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at it and say you know I'm in the half that's doing okay it's all it's just all bad for me it's just good for the people at the bottom why would I vote for that say the people who were in the top half all right does it seem but does it seem to you that nobody is taking feed Buddha judge seriously at the moment I feel as if you know if you look at the last three contests the Buddha jej either came on first or second right or he was near the top and all three contests shouldn't we be talking really really seriously about people to judge but we're not right even the Democrats are not really taking him seriously and I think that the the whole power point attack on him just being sort of an empty jargon filled suit I think it took a toll I think Pete went from exciting and new and you know he's a he's the shiny new thing and he's smart and he's

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shiny new thing and he's smart and he's fun he's he's good-looking and you know has a lot of cool things about him but then you listen to him and it just sounds like empty jargon talk and I think as soon as the word PowerPoint was mentioned I think that was the end of the end of his political run for this time so I may be over overstating how much difference that made but you know you just don't see any enthusiasm for him anymore let's say who would you say is dividing the country if Sanders and Trump run if you listen to Trump talk the Trump will be saying and doing things like this here's me in a room full of young black voters cheering me on because they're Republicans here's me this is Trump talking here's me praising

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this is Trump talking here's me praising black leaders here's me bragging about lowering black unemployment here's me bringing us basically bringing everybody together not insulting Americans insulting other people but yeah it is critics but not insulting voters who were minding my own business and then there's Sanders do you know what Sanders is saying have you heard him recently he's decided that he's going to go full racist sexist xenophobic homophobic and first of all none of that even really lands calling Trump a homophobic that is so not even close to what I'm observing are you I mean in what what would you even look at to claim the Trump is homophobic it's ridiculous and the other claims are just warm warmed up you know the Charlottesville find people hoax and ridiculousness so you've got Bernie who's ripping apart

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you've got Bernie who's ripping apart the Democratic Party wouldn't you agree I mean there's a lot of division with the Democrats that didn't exist before it's not something the Trump made Trump is out there every day saying let's get together we Americans and that does not include people who came here illegally that's his message like it or not that's his message it's all about coming together but bernie is all about separating the rich and the poor making the rich and the poor enemies making the republicans look like a bunch of racist and sexist and it looks to me like bernie is just ripping the fabric of the country apart to get elected am i wrong would would that look like a biased statement today now if you were looking at candidate Trump in 2015 and comparing him to candidate Sanders in 2020 you'd probably say oh you know there's two candidates who

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there's two candidates who like they're they're trying to divide the country that was candidate Trump but President Trump is funding the historically black colleges used to in prison reform he's bragging about black unemployment being low he doesn't look like he's dividing the country to me he looks like everything he's doing is to bring it together and Bernie is working as hard as they can to divide it because that's his path to the to victory I imagine he thinks so certainly we could not accept that Trump is the one dividing the country it's just not happening now if you said he used to be that way and his rhetoric you used to be more more dividing I would say yeah that's probably true I would say that's probably true it's just not true down so there's anybody taking Joe Biden seriously did you hear the two the two things he said this week I guess he told

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things he said this week I guess he told audiences three times in the last two weeks that he was arrested 40 years ago in South Africa while trying to meet Nelson Mandela except there is no evidence independent of him saying it recently that that ever happened Joe Biden seems to have hallucinate it some some history of his own in which he tried to meet Nelson Mandela in South Africa and got arrested but it's better than that he also told audiences that his deceased son had been the Attorney General of the United States which he hadn't been have you been an attorney general of a state or something that's probably what he was thinking I don't know that resume of his deceased son but those are some pretty big departures from reality and at this point I don't

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from reality and at this point I don't think anybody takes Biden seriously much losses on the team all right I'm fascinated by how the media moguls are going to hinder the handle of Bernie Sanders let's say you're Jeff Zucker Jeff Zucker makes a lot of money does Jeff Zucker want to live in a world where Bernie Sanders takes Jeff suckers money away and gives it to other people I'm gonna say no I mean I'm not gonna read his mind I can't read Jeff soccers mind he might be the greatest guy in the world and he just thinks you know other people should take my money but I suspect that anybody who wanted to have less money so that poor people could have more they certainly have ways to do that it's called charity you can give away as much as your money as you want so if Jeff Zucker you know wanted to give away Ellen's money he could do that without Bernie Sanders and I'm guessing they he doesn't want to do that so what

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they he doesn't want to do that so what is CNN do when they've got Trump who is their nemesis they of course have to say bad things about him that's their business model but they can't really promote Sanders because he's gonna be really expensive for the talent and the owners of CNN he had the managers it would be a disaster for them the same as it would be a disaster for me you know I I would suffer greatly financially under a Bernie Sanders regime so I think we're starting to get the answer to that because on CNN they recently hired Joe Lockhart and Joe Lockhart writes this article on CNN their website saying that Bloomberg needs to take out Bernie and quickly can you imagine that's sort of shocking isn't it that they would hire and a very anti Trumper guy Joe Lockhart and he is super you know super partisan

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and he is super you know super partisan anteye Trumper and they let him write in an opinion piece on CNN basically anti Bernie it's pretty much anti Bernie so I think CNN doesn't want to take sides with Bernie what would that look like well I wonder what is their business model even gonna look like because they had a really clean model which was Democrats of the world united against this evil trump guy and that worked really well but what if they don't like either one what do they do what do they do with that so I think CNN is going to have to try pretty hard to take Bernie out and we have this weird enemy of my enemy situation in which CNN and Republicans are going to be on the same side so look for that how wonderful is it that the two top candidates to run against Trump the you know the the the Democrats had you know years to prepare

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Democrats had you know years to prepare they know exactly what they were up against you know President Trump is a really well known quantity so they knew exactly what kind of candidate would match up well and what they picked were one billionaire who's got accusations of sexism racism and foreign entanglements okay that's one of the choices that they came up with after years of thinking about what would be a good match up with Trump and the other one is literally a con man you know there's there's no other way to say what Bernie is doing because I don't think Bernie believes his math works right you know I need to be a mind reader because I can't tell what's in his head but do you get into any indication that Bernie Sanders believes that despite whatever stand and anybody who can do math tells him that he alone knows how to make the math work and it'll all work out I don't know if I

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and it'll all work out I don't know if I had to guess again I'm not a mind reader but I don't think there's any chance that Bernie thinks that the proposals he's pushing are actually practical do you I mean he does seem like he acts like a true believer but I my guess is that he wants to push things in that direction at least as far as they'll go so I don't think and again this is just speculation because I'm not a mind-reader but I would guess that Bernie wants to push it in that direction as far as it'll go and he doesn't know how far that is but probably doesn't think it would go all the way to the extremes that he's promoting so I don't know it looks to me like bernie is essentially a con artist who's saying I'm gonna take money from other citizens and give it to you if you vote for me and it just doesn't look like leadership it just looks like a con he's just taking money from one pocket

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he's just taking money from one pocket and putting it in another and he's the one who benefits how in the world will president Trump compete against Bernie saying he would forgive the student debt because if you're a student or you have some debt or even if you have a family member who has a lot of student debt that's a really attractive thing right so let me suggest one way the President Trump could take the issue of student debt completely off the table are you ready for it here it is President Trump could say and I'm by the way I don't think you will do this so I just like thinking through the persuasive techniques so this is just a thought experiment but president Trump could say you know Bernie wants to forgive all student debt I'll tell you what if the Congress passes such a law

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Congress passes such a law I'll sign it now your first reaction to that is what the hell that would put President Trump in the same place as Bernie just you know just wiping off debt of the people who made what looked like the wrong choices and the people who were hard workers and paid off their debt they get nothing they get nothing you know and you're suggesting Scott that the president should say he would sign such a bill here's the thing if Congress passed it it would mean that both Democrats and Republicans and representatives of the people wanted it to happen by majority if you're the President of the United States and if you're the presidents of the United States and both both houses of Congress or at least the majority and the people who closest to the people say by a majority yeah we want this law I kind of

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majority yeah we want this law I kind of think the president ought to sign it just in general now if it had a let's say you know a National Defense element to it or if it were discriminatory against some disadvantaged group well then the president should step in and say yeah I get that the will of the people want to do this but this is mob law and that's why you happy you had me to stop mob law but there's nothing like mob lawdness this would be rational people who look at the choices and hypothetically Republicans and Democrats got together in sufficient number to say yeah we're gonna vote away all of the student debt now I think there's no chance that it would ever happen so that's the first part there's no chance would happen but what if it did no what if it did I would say the president should sign it even if you don't like it because it would be actually a pretty fair representation of the will of the people their representatives would say you know my

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representatives would say you know my people kind of want this so I'm gonna be for it I think the president could completely take the issue off the table by saying you know Bernie is just saying that if Congress gives them that bill he'll sign it well guess what if the public wants it that much that it can get through Congress I'll sign it to take so completely off the table right because I don't think it would ever get through Congress but it has to get through Congress whether it's Bernie or Trump in order for a president even to be part of the decision all right
there's a in no particular order Oh Tom Tom cotton was tweeting because apparently China has determined or at least their current opinion is that the the Wuhan market was not the cause of the corona virus outbreak so the current of thinking which I'm sure is subject to

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thinking which I'm sure is subject to revision but the current of thinking is that China doesn't know where it came from or at least they're not saying they know where it came from so Tom cotton gotten Senator Tom cotton got in a little trouble because he he had suggested that we can't rule out the Wuhan weapons plant because wouldn't that be a big coincidence that a bio weapon plant was right near where where a serious coronavirus broke out but he wasn't saying I think that's what I was he was simply saying you got to keep that option open and then the only other option just got eliminated right there are only two options on the table that I know of one was that it came from animals that were you know not prepared in the safest way I guess and the others that came from a bio lab and we just eliminated animals now that doesn't mean it's the bio lab right it probably means

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it's the bio lab right it probably means that we don't know where it came from and you know they're probably a thousand ways that could have gotten there that I can't think of but cotton you might be closer to the truth than you thought all right so there's some leaked pages from Twitter meaning because it's a leak we don't know if Twitter is really planning to do this or if these are just tests and demos but there are some leaked pages showing at least indicating that Twitter is considering marking untrue things as lies in other words highlighting them with let's say an orange color a little tag that says this tweet is not true now my first reaction to that was yeah that could be kind of helpful yeah I would like I would like to have something flagged I mean I'll use my own judgment on it after the fact but it would help me if

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after the fact but it would help me if they flagged things that at least some other people say are not true I think that would be useful I could make up my own mind I could still see it you know I can check links etc and then I thought wait a minute what guess who gets him flagged by whom so somebody's saying in the comments then my second thought was wait a minute yeah who gets to decide we watch we watch every day as people who are well-meaning can't decide what's true looking at the same information so I just don't know there's any way to get there now what I wouldn't mind is if there was a point in the counterpoint you know if they flagged it in orange and said this is a disputed fact I would be completely happy with disputed if at the same time there was a link to the dispute on either side so if something was flagged as potentially not true and that I could see if the people who say

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that I could see if the people who say it's not true and I could see the argument that says it is true right next to each other I'd like that and then I don't have to worry about whether it's true or false I can simply note that people disagree with it I can look alright so there might be something good coming we'll see lawrence O'Donnell over at MSNBC I can't tell if he's lying or crazy or acting and I'm fascinated by it I couldn't look away but he did this big thing saying the president is a Russian operative this is yesterday right this is this is not even during the Russia collusion hoax but as recently as yesterday I think us or day before the president is a Russian operative that sounds like the description of a bad Hollywood screenplay but it is real and it is Vladimir Putin greatest achievement Lawrence O'Donnell

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greatest achievement Lawrence O'Donnell actually sent that sentence on TV and and then he goes on about how you know Putin owns Trump and I think to myself does he even believe any of that I don't I can't tell can you does he because he looks crazy like to my eyes he looks he looks crazy like like he's at a cognitive dissonance bubble or or TDS or something but it looks actually crazy so but who knows maybe he's just making James Carville said something that made me pause no matter what you want to say about James Carville he is a smart guy and a straight talker and every now and then he'll just say something that would just knock you off your chair and make you

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knock you off your chair and make you really think he's good at that and here's one of the things he said then why I didn't think of this I don't I don't know but he said that that if Russians are trying to help a burny it's not because they want him to be president it's because they know he's so weak he lose to trump so in other words Carville is saying that Russia only wants to help Trump and I either do it directly through there you know hacking in social media or they do it indirectly by promoting Sanders as the competitor because he doesn't have a chance of winning and I thought to myself I had never really thought of that interpretation and yet it's kind of obvious it's sitting right there like why in the world did that not occur to me and I'm not sure it's true but I'm shocked that it wasn't obvious to me that Russia you know could play the pro

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that Russia you know could play the pro trump card two different ways by supporting him directly or by supporting Sanders but here's the thing National Security Advisor Robert O'Brien who has access to all the intelligence says that he's not he's seen no intelligence to support the claim that that Trump is being helped by Russian there's no so one of the guys who has access to all the information says there's nothing there there would suggest Russia is helping Trump now here's what I'm going to add to it that James Carville needs to listen to me all right James Carville I don't think you'll ever see this but let me give you a twist on this because you you sort of blew me away with that fairly obvious insight that for whatever reason escaped my my my filter but here's one for you

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my my my filter but here's one for you James Carville if if Russia wanted Trump to get elected isn't the best thing they could do stay completely out of it I mean seriously because they're watching the same stuff we're watching and they know who's likely to run against them I don't think at this point they see anybody who could beat him so wouldn't the dumbest worst stupidest thing that Russia could do is clumsily do the same things they did before and easily got caught in other words make some memes and trying to hack stuff apparently we can catch them when they do that why would they do that again of all the things of all the things that would not help Trump the worst thing that Russia could do by far by a hundred to one the worst thing they could do is try to help Trump there's nothing they could do that would be worse than that if they wanted him to get elected right now James Carville what do you say to

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now James Carville what do you say to that do you think Russia is simultaneously so brilliant that they could do all these clever schemes because they're so smart but at the same time they're so stupid that the schemes they tried last time were weak and pathetic had no effect whatsoever and they got caught oh so they're gonna do some more to that stuff the stuff that's weak and pathetic and they're definitely gonna get caught because they're such geniuses that's their plan none of it makes sense alright so you know you're being lied to we just don't know what the truth is
California might might be heading in the right direction on this homelessness stuff so gavin newsom seems to be learning because he's made the homelessness thing high priority so that's good and he's also made some

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that's good and he's also made some mobile I guess some mobile trailer homes available for homeless in this short term and that's good ish but remember it's not really a problem of people finding homes it's a problem of addiction and mental illness but it seems that according to an article by Joel Pollak in Breitbart it seems that Newsom is looking hard at legislation that wouldn't allow a doctor to basically take somebody off the street now I don't know what that would look like but you know that I think he's getting close to what I would call the dr. drew insight about homelessness and I'm guessing the probably dr. drew broke through I think probably he was the one who's influenced on this this topic is probably the one that broke through and that was the idea that you have to deal with the homelessness problem as a as an

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with the homelessness problem as a as an addiction and mental health problem and now Newsom is starting to talk in those terms and talking about needing legislation to effectively force people into treatment because if you take away the involuntary part there's nothing there there's nothing you could do you could build houses all day long and people will still have mental health and addiction problems and they won't in those houses or they will ruin them so and then the other thing that California is doing is looking to make some state land available for resettling the homeless but also through some experimenting and also to reduce some of the permitting make it easier to build a low-cost place just for the homeless that that's all good that's all pretty good stuff so I would say congratulations to dr. drew because I think probably dr. drew you're the one who who broke through and got everybody

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who who broke through and got everybody at least thinking and the right productive line still a lot of work to do but at least the the thinking seems to be right so that's pretty positive all right um so you got that and I think that's about all I was going to talk about today anything else happening for you I'm just looking at your comments now yeah providing a hundred trailers for the 10,000 homeless or whatever it is it's just uh it's a small thing but at least maybe they'll learn something from it
what did Houston do somebody says a Houston reduced their homeless but I don't know about that talk about a Oh see I saw a OC was getting some some heat because she wore

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getting some some heat because she wore an expensive ish dress of the view but you know really you know if you're if we're mocking women for the the dress they wear we're just not I mean you're just not being productive so and by the way it was a really it was a really good dress so in terms of the fashion I would say a plus but otherwise I don't think we should care about with the dress navall disagrees with me on the slippery slope well I think if we were in the same room we probably would not disagree some of it is just your choice of words it is true that things that sometimes go in one direction but it's not because there's something called a slippery slope it's just true that some things will go in one direction until something stops them it's just a better way to think of it yeah the Phil Haney apparent suicide I'm kind of watching that story but you know people do kill themselves so I'm not

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people do kill themselves so I'm not going to immediately jump into the there's something fishy here he was a whistleblower so you have to you definitely have to question that one
Scott have you ever thought of moving out of California yes I think about it almost every day you know if you live in either California or New York and you have a high income it doesn't make sense anymore because tax wise it's a it's a disaster to be in the state so some of my smartest friends have recently moved at a California to Florida and to Texas for the better tax treatment and if I did not have you know ties locally I would definitely move but I have a lot of ties locally Healthcare is still a GOP blind spot absolutely

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GOP blind spot absolutely you know if the GOP doesn't offer a good argument for health care a good plan for making it better Bernie deserves to win you know if it's Bernie so you know if the president loses and he doesn't have a good health care argument or plan or persuasion he's just sort of you know abandoning that argument if that happens then he deserves to lose because that's a high priority and it's not being addressed and if the president doesn't address it well maybe maybe birdie can take a shot at
yeah a Clint Eastwood is saying good things about Bloomberg I don't think Clint Eastwood's opinion matters or any any one person's opinion yeah you know the other thing I don't like about Florida is the bugs and the humidity so

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Florida is the bugs and the humidity so if you could get rid of those maybe you'd have something and of course the yeah you've got the Hurricanes all right that's all for now I'll talk to you all later