Episode 808 Scott Adams: Super Pole Dancing, Iowa, BloombergBox Sales, Brainwashed vs Lying
Date: 2020-02-03 | Duration: 41:30
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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a Superbowl pole dancing half-time show President Trump’s genius trolling of Michael Bloomberg 42% of Yang supporters would NOT support another Democrat MSNBC and CNN’s pundits promoting King Trump nonsense Brainwashed vs partisan lying vs ignorant people Biden versus Bernie Is the Democrat nomination process legit?
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wake up everybody wake up I know you had an excellent Super Bowl Sunday but now it's Monday it's time to get serious with coffee with Scott Adams you came to the right place yes if you would like to enjoy coffee with Scott Adams all you need is a cup or a mug or glass a tanker chelators tie and a canteen jugger flasks a vessel of any kind filling with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the dopa beat of the day the thing that makes everything better the simultaneous sip it's gonna be a good one go Oh super bullish I must say so whether you cared or didn't about the Super Bowl it did produce some news fail some interesting things anyway let's talk about those number one is it a coincidence that Trump keeps winning and not only does Trump keep winning even
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not only does Trump keep winning even things that are sort of loosely associated with him keep winning because if you've got a Super Bowl that's Kansas City middle of the country sort of you know Trump territory essentially against San Francisco Pelosi territory everything's really about politics now isn't it it's sort of all about politics even if you don't want it to be even if it's not supposed to be it is no I I missed the opening but correct me if I'm wrong I don't believe anybody was kneeling for the national anthem am i right fact-checked me on that I don't believe anybody was kneeling that's sort of a Trump victory took a while but there we are
are so trump and trumpism sort of gets the win over San Francisco I had I confess to having mixed loyalties there now I have to tell you I don't
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there now I have to tell you I don't know anything about football you know I used to watch it I don't watch it anymore it's the only game I watched this year was the Super Bowl I didn't know the name of the quarterback for Kansas City until the game itself I wasn't sure about the name of San Francisco's quarterback until the playoffs recently so I came into this with no knowledge whatsoever turned it down a few minutes into the game and I watched her ohm is that his name her aim who was it was the quarterback for the Kansas City I forget her name her home anyway I watched him throw one pass and from that one pass I just said to myself I don't think San Francisco is gonna win because just watching that one pass I just thought to myself I don't think that looks normal I don't know that much about football but whoever threw that thing is not like the others
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threw that thing is not like the others so I did think San Francisco was gonna win when they were ahead but when I saw that guy's arm I thought I don't how you beat that you look pretty good in the homes thank you anyway everybody's jabbering about the halftime show and
Jenny from lock JLo and Shakira did a little bit too sexy pole dancing crotch grabbing rendition of their act leaving many people with conflicting feelings I have to admit it's not exactly what you want to be watching with your kids you know I mean it doesn't bothered me personally but I totally get how other people would be bothered by it so I acknowledge that and it was interesting in terms of what it says about the country and about where our heads are at
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country and about where our heads are at cetera I think they got away with it meaning that you know Jennifer Lopez and Shakira are just so well loved and popular and and whatever they can kinda get away with what people other people couldn't get away with so I I thought it was a great show I have to tell you I saw Jennifer Lopez live performing in Las Vegas within the past year and you watch her perform live for I don't know how long the show is an hour or whatever it is and for an hour she's doing intense physical activity dancing and singing and when you see her actually sort of in person meaning you're in the audience and you know there's there's no camera between you and her and the whole time you're thinking what does she do for her fitness that she can look like that and do that it's honestly the most watching
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do that it's honestly the most watching her in person at her at her current age doing what she does looking the way she does it doesn't even seem real I do not know how she could because she doesn't look like she had a lot of plastic surgery you know one assumes that everybody at that level is getting a little bit of work but she doesn't show signs of it I would say that you almost have to see Jennifer Lopez as an athlete more as much as an entertainer as an athlete it's really impressive what she's managed to you know do and get out of her her physicality is just really really impressive so I'm a big fan and maybe it was a little too sexy but we'll get over it all right let's talk about the bloomberg box you may have noted already yesterday I did a Superbowl commercial for my invention the Bloomberg box it's an actual box that you can stand on to even things up if
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you can stand on to even things up if you are not quite debate height now as luck would have it I think I'm almost exactly the same height as Bloomberg so I think I'm supposed to be I'm 5 foot 8 so I think I'm supposed to be insulted by all this talk of shortness I'm not it just seems funny to me so the whole thing is just a little bit silly certainly I don't think that Bloomberg's height stopped him from earning fifty six billion dollars and becoming Bloomberg so obviously it's not really it's not a real issue but it is something that would probably matter if he stood on the stage now here's the funny part Trump is playing that he creates this rumor so that everybody has to fact-check it and I want I want to read to you his exact quote on this I guess it was in his interview yesterday it's just so funny that he does this because
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just so funny that he does this because you know it's intentional and remember when he would do this you know three years ago and I would be the only person who would say no this isn't what you think this is actually gonna work and then it would work that people were saying well didn't didn't see that coming only that cartoonist said that but this time he does this play that he's done so many times where he puts this little little piece of fake news into the consciousness and he makes everybody fact-check it so that we're only talking about that so Piers Morgan called this outlet wheat you know noting that it had to be considered genius at this point because he's just so good at it he's he's so good at this thing so here's his exact words he goes quote you know now he wants a box for that debates to stand on Trump said okay it's okay there's nothing wrong you can be short I love the fact that Trump says it's okay
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love the fact that Trump says it's okay to be sure there's nothing wrong with that you could be short thank you for that permission why should he get a box to stand okay well I should be gonna box the stick he wants to buy he wants a box for the debates now it's even funnier when you put it into into his his mind like it's just something he wants you know not only does it not exist and it didn't happen but that was something he wants so
so he's deepening the the rumor why should he be entitled to that why should he be entitled it's really about entitlement now let's talk about entitlement why should he be entitled to that really does that mean everyone else gets a box
I would love to run against Bloomberg Ian's why is he a title to that does that mean everybody else gets a box it
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that mean everybody else gets a box it would be a hilarious you know it would be hilarious is if Bloomberg didn't get a box no I don't know because I think they do that right if you have a shorter candidate I think that's a real thing it has not been done before for maybe Hillary Clinton maybe Klobuchar or somebody else but what would stop I'm just asking what would stop Trump from demanding his own box and nothing right there's nothing that would stop Trump from saying well there should be a level playing field we're not trying to fool the audience the whole point of the debate is to show the audience who we are so if everything's supposed to be equal Trump gets a box now is there anything that would make you laugh harder than finding out the Bloomberg got a box and then Trump demanded his own box I don't know if I could ever stop laughing that would be the funniest thing I'd ever seen in my life and the
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thing I'd ever seen in my life and the funniest thing is that his argument would be pretty good all right the argument that everybody should be treated the same and it's their own fault if they have a look it's their own you know it's nobody else's fault if somebody's taller than someone else somebody's saying Julian Castro had a box so I would love to see Trump demand a box but here's the funny part now that the all the networks and everybody had to fact-check him and of course they fact checked it and found out there was absolutely no rumor to it whatsoever now there's a new rumor that the Bloomberg is really angry about this I doubt it is possible but I kind of doubt that of all the things that Bloomberg has to worry about in a day I don't think he's really worried about the Box thing but now there's this new rumor that he's furious about it I never believed any of those kinds of rumors because you hear these about Trump all the time Trump was furious about this or that or whatever and then you think yourself
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whatever and then you think yourself probably not probably now you probably mentioned it so Bloomberg you know may not love it but I doubt he is furious about it or anything like that so I wouldn't trust that reporting here's the funny thing as a prank I want to see if we can persuade this box into reality and buy Reese persuaded into reality I don't mean that there will be an actual real box I mean that we will use persuasion until everybody thinks there's a box just as an experiment now the experiment is based on trying to repeat the experiment that CNN and MSNBC do on a regular basis in which they ignore the facts that don't that don't agree with the reporting and just continue talking as though they had not been debunked now how many times have you seen this for example the you know the fine people hoax has been debunked a billion times but they still just act
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billion times but they still just act like it hasn't instead of addressing the debunking they just act like it didn't happen when aha when Dershowitz corrected their reporting about what he said during the impeachment presentation Dershowitz goes on CNN and says no you're taking a word end of context I didn't say anything like that this is what I said and you can check the transcript yourself to say in the full context is very clear what I said you are reporting it wrong what did Wolf Blitzer do when the guy who is the only person who knows for sure what Alan Dershowitz said and meant meaning Alan Dershowitz corrects them in the most unambiguous way what is CNN do they just acted didn't happen and then continue talking the way they were talking so I would like to give you a one-act play in which I will be talking to Dale the anti-trump er and convincing him through my powers
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er and convincing him through my powers of persuasion that the box exists Dale you've heard the story that Bloomberg's gonna stand on that box you know do you think that's fair Scott Scott Scott there is no box that is fake news something your president does he lies he lies like a lying liar he made it up there's no truth to it Bloomberg has confirmed there is no box every single Network has confirmed there is no box Scott no box what color is the box what are you talking about I just told you there's no box you can't have a color on a box that doesn't exist no box Bloomberg says there's no box every reporter says no box no box no box it doesn't exist who's paying for this box what is happening now what is happening I keep telling you is fake news there's no box
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no box there's no box the box does not exist
Dale do you think it's fair that Bloomberg gets a box and Trump doesn't get a box what's fair about that seem so no matter what anybody says about the box just as a prank just as a prank look at them expressionless Lee and ask a question about the box it'll be hilarious don't don't ever leave character no matter no matter who you're talking to when they tell you the box doesn't exist just look right at them and ask them about a detail about the box it will make them crazy funniest thing ever alright go forward so my I created my Superbook which I was selling the Bloomberg box my
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which I was selling the Bloomberg box my product which you just saw which by the way it has more than one use it can be used as something to stand on but is also can be used by an taifa it's kind of a kind of a mask so you can use the box if you're attending an anti-fog rally and nobody will know who you are they might think you're Mike Bloomberg if they're not very observant but it has multiple uses I don't make products that are only good for one thing so we've got about 76,000 views on that looks like it's going somewhere I roll so that's good on other news I think this is fascinating I've talked about it before but according to a poll Warren's supporters said they would all basically 90 percent of them would support whoever gets nominated if it's not Warren so in other words Warren has very soft support their supporters refer her but if they
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their supporters refer her but if they have to go to second or third choice that's okay 90% of them would do it YAG supporters are at 42% would not support the Democrats if it's not being 42% of them now if that's 42% of a small number but I wonder what those people say when they get polled you know I wonder if yang supporters are just sort of breaking the polling because I don't know who they are are they people who have never voted before because there was never anybody who spoke to them are they people who won't vote you know are they young people who when it comes to election day they're like yeah it wasn't yang I just don't care I'm not gonna vote at all or is it is it Trump supporters who have lost faith and going over to yang for some reason I don't know who they are so I think we have to understand this a lot better than we do all right let's talk about so CNN and MSNBC are running this persuasion play
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MSNBC are running this persuasion play in which they're having all their their dumbest pundits and it really it's the dumb ones there's no way to be nice this Philip dance if you ever seen Philip dance he I don't think he's done necessarily but he's he just goes on TV and he will say absolutely anything so he and others who were equally let's say non-credible are saying that we've just learned that President Trump wants to be a king and they're all using that word a king he thinks he's a king he's above the law he wants to be king king king king and they're trying to sell this into existence you know thinking to myself you have really run out of material man if you run out of material if what you've got left is we're reading his mind and we think he wants to be a king you've got nothing left that is the most ridiculous complaint it doesn't
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most ridiculous complaint it doesn't ring true on any level and if Democrats are buying into this that says something about them that's not good all right here's a fun question for you for your Democrat friends who are opposed to Trump's wall one wants somebody to report back to me after trying this experiment find find an anti-trump or a Democrat who was very opposed to a strong immigration and especially somebody and here's the key somebody who was opposed to the what was called the Muslim ban but was really abandoned on countries that didn't have good systems for identification which ended up being a lot of Muslim countries now that's been expanded I don't know what percentage of Muslim countries now but most of your Democrats were saying and still say that President Trump is only closing the borders because the people are Muslims so he's he's discriminating
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are Muslims so he's he's discriminating against Muslims now find a person like that somebody who holds that view and ask them how that's different from the travel ban on China to prevent the coronavirus because in both cases you were one a large segment of people who you know to be innocent you know you know that 99% of the Chinese travelers don't have any virus you know that so why are you punishing 99% of the Chinese travelers just to prevent the risk that the 1% might bring in now how is that different from the ban on countries many of them are Muslim majority or most or all hundred know what it is but how is that different because we also believe that the Muslims coming in or 99% or more completely innocent have every right to immigrate like everybody else does but the 1% or less whatever it is might be very dangerous how exactly are those two
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very dangerous how exactly are those two situations different now I always warn you not to do persuasion by analogy so yes somebody says good analogy so analogy is don't win arguments you're not going to change anybody's mind with this analogy trust me it's not going to change anybody's mind but it's an experiment see if you can get somebody to walk through the risk management of it because those who do not think that the ban on countries is based on racism and I don't I don't believe it's based on racism I look at it as risk management so to me it looks exactly the same as the virus thing is just a risk management it's based on not being able to identify the risk within a population all right so do that it'll be fun let me know let me know what your Democrat says when you when you try that did you see the there was a I think there might have
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the there was a I think there might have been two Trump ads on the Superbowl one of them in particular mentioned that Trump has made the country.what stronger and safer he talks about the economy and he shows some military stuff I think the two words were stronger and safer that was a really good strong and safe and he can back it up I don't believe there would be anybody would disagree that our military got stronger everybody would agree with that and that our economy got stronger so when the president says we're stronger and safer those are really basic needs I mean that really goes down to you know your biological requirement now think of that this Trump add quite quite well done oh yeah I'm not going to say it's the best ad they'll ever make but it's really it's in the top shelf right it's in the category of some of the great ones maybe
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category of some of the great ones maybe not the greatest but the stronger and safer think how how basic and biological that is compare that to a lesser lesser candidates offerings which I think you'll see such as we can't have that Trump he is dividing us sort of a concept he's dividing us yeah okay well what's that mean to you like that how does that change your life I don't know in fact the apparently the polls should show exactly the opposite the polls show that racism has gone way down since trumping your president did you know that by the way the fact check me on that but I believe the polls show that how we feel about race has improved substantially since Trump became president you didn't see that coming did you I did because I think those things improve no matter what generally speaking Obama was kind of a blip because you know some people got
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blip because you know some people got excited because there was a you know we had a black president so that that's inflamed things for a while but apparently the the arc is that we're just getting better on this stuff historically pretty much all the time and I think that will continue so here's what I loved about the ad so first of all it was basic and biological got right to what matters to you it also works really well for women it works really well for anybody who feels vulnerable if you feel vulnerable in any way you want to know that we're strong and safer and that we're looking out for you okay but here's the brilliant part that I don't know if anybody caught if you're Trump you're trying to do something that's kind of a fine line you're trying to win black voters you're trying to win Hispanic voters you're trying to win female voters right because those are the weaknesses for Trump's supporters but it's not really a
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Trump's supporters but it's not really a Republican thing to just go out and pander so the Republicans are not good at saying hey black people will vote for me I will give you some stuff Republicans don't like to sell that way right because that begets into identity politics it's it's it's opposite the brand so if you can't call out a group but you still want to appeal to them how do you do it and this ad you're suddenly suddenly brilliant if you didn't catch this here's what they did at the end of the ad where there's some talk about employment being great somebody who says something employment for everybody is good and then the next voice you don't see this who is talking but you can tell from the voice in all likelihood it's a white woman newscaster all right now I'm not don't get into the argument about whether you can always tell somebody's ethnicity from hearing their voice yes yes I know you can't
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their voice yes yes I know you can't always tell but remember an ad is just giving you a quick impression of things it's not about reality so the impression which probably is right but could not be right it's possible it's not was that the sound of a white woman talking a voice over says that black unemployment is the best that's been in 49 years or whatever right so here's here's the clever part it was a white woman applauding black employment improving and then the very next voice is actually they showed showed it was a black man newscaster on Fox applauding Hispanic employment so you see what they did there it was kind of subtle in both cases they had somebody who was not in the in-group yeah was Charles Payne so Charles Payne an african-american man was talking his little clip is about Hispanic employment being good now I'm
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Hispanic employment being good now I'm sure that that if you saw the whole clip he probably talked about employment in general and black unemployment - but what was brilliant about this that I absolutely loved is that they had people celebrating the other group do you see how powerful that is and so we had a white woman celebrating black employment improving and a black man a very successful black man applauding Hispanic employment do you see how powerful that is it's really really strong and it's invisible like you could watch that commercial and we just would just go past you it's super clever and you know it's intentional - I mean one assumes it's intentional because it's too good to be accidental it all likely all right here's a fun topic I say for the end people ask me how can you tell if somebody is brainwashed let's say for a political party versus they're just
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political party versus they're just lying how can you tell the brainwash versus line versus they're just ignorant versus they have a legitimate opinion and it just happens to disagree with yours how can you sort them out and I suggested the other day a way to do that now this is not a hundred percent effective you know there will be exceptions and overlap etc but these are good starting places for your suspicion all right if somebody is brainwashed meaning they literally believe something and don't have reasons that's what it means to be brainwashed they have a belief and it's a strong belief that's not based on facts and reasons the way you can determine it is if you get into a conversation with them and you give them a counter-argument that you think is good a brainwashed person's response will sound crazy they'll sound crazy now what is not crazy would be somebody has wrong facts it's not crazy to have wrong facts right somebody has bad logic
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wrong facts right somebody has bad logic well that's not crazy there are lots of people who are not good at logic right so there are lots of things that would disagree with you that you would not you would you would not process as just being crazy but cognitive dissonance which is what happens when a brainwashed person is challenged with the facts cognitive dissonance is literally where your cobbling together your reality and patching it up with something that only makes sense to you so that when somebody is the observer and they see you in cognitive dissonance the things you say don't even make sense they just sound like crazy talk so that's the tell for a brainwashed person who's been presented with a superior argument it's actually crazy talk now compare that to someone who is just a partisan somebody who is just a Democrat or they're just a Republican and it doesn't matter what you're gonna say I'm gonna support my team how can you tell that person because that person
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you tell that person because that person is actually aware when they're lying it's a big difference the brainwash people can't tell when their their departing from reality they don't have the ability but a lying partisan well they know when they're lying they know when they're avoiding a topic and if you corner somebody who's a partisan and they're just a liar what do they do well most often they change the topic they say well your team did this too that's a that's changing the topic or they say well what about the other thing that's changing the topic so liars who don't want to act like they're crazy because nobody wants to act crazy alright nobody does that intentionally it would be rare if they did I suppose somebody could but the the people the cognitive dissonance people the ones who are brainwashed they're not choosing to be crazy that's just what cognitive dissonance does to you it just makes you say things that are irrational the part is the liar
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that are irrational the part is the liar is just going to change the subject so that's your big tell for a liar pretty much what about ignorant people what about somebody who just didn't have the information that you have and therefore you disagree on some policy but once you fill in the gap they end up being converted to one of the other two things if somebody is only operating out of ignorance and you fill in the ignorance you know you tell them the facts that they're missing they usually don't change their mind because people don't like changing the mind you you will end up converting them into either a brainwashed person who starts babbling crazy talk or a partisan liar they'll know they're wrong but they'll just support their team anyway so the ignorant can be fixed but it doesn't win the argument for you it just converts it into a liar or a brainwashed person so what does a legitimate disagreement look like what does it look like when somebody disagrees with you but you know maybe you don't like the argument but
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maybe you don't like the argument but you say to yourself okay they're not brainwashed they're not lying this is actually their their actual belief it's reasonable I just disagree here's how you can tell a legitimate debater can describe your argument accurately in other words you could say that person all right tell me what you think I'm saying can can you restate my argument and if they can they're not brainwashed and they're not ignorant and they're not partisan Liars there are probably legitimate people who just want to figure stuff out so that's a really good way to tell if you're talking to somebody who's legitimate can you describe my argument in your words and if you notice that in most public conversation people will miss characterize your argument and argue against the the so-called straw man the argument you never made it so just ask people directly instead of just having
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people directly instead of just having them debate you say can you just stop right here can you put in your own words describe my argument in a way that when I hear it I'll say yeah that's it you got it and most people can't do that because legitimate disagreements are actually kind of rare they're kind of rare all right so those are the main a lot of people are mentioning one the five one one has a an interesting role on the five I don't know if you can I don't know if you can exactly assume that the way wand Williams presents himself on the five is exactly his personal opinion because remember he has a role to play which is representing the other side it would be a boring show if the other four
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would be a boring show if the other four members of the five had an opinion and wand said you know in this case I just agree with you he it's sort of his job it's what he gets paid for to give that you know the the opposite opinion so I don't know if you can make too much of of the fact that he disagrees with people you can't you can't there's just no conclusion you can make from that because yeah somebody says Juan does a good job I would say that the reason that one has that very high level job is that he does a good job meaning that his role in the five is exactly he has exactly the right kind of energy charisma personality that just fits really well with those other people and the yeah the the little let's say entertaining friction that they have so he's a really good choice for the show I will say that all right what about all
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will say that all right what about all this Biden versus Bernie's stuff I have a real question about the Bernie supporters and about Biden now we're hearing more people are imagining the Biden is going to fall off a shelf and there's something that we get to check all right so there's a there's a theory of how the world works which I happen to subscribe to that we're gonna get to check it goes like this I don't believe that the Democratic convention and nomination process is legitimate I don't believe that I believe that there are powerful people in a variety of roles and jobs probably loosely or maybe not loosely connected with the Clintons and the Obama world etc you know sort of a sort of a world in which a lot of them know each other
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in which a lot of them know each other and that in a variety of ways they're gonna get to decide who is the who is the candidate now they can manipulate it by changing rules by changing funding I don't probably a whole bunch of variables that they have super-delegates as somebody said or brokered conventions so they have lots of tools you know the let's say the the is a deep state the sort of career Democrats they have lots of tools to keep somebody like Bernie and of office but it does seem that bernie is doing the best in terms of getting voter support so if Bernie is killing it in the polls and he doesn't get the nomination that should confirm to you that it's a rigged process now the last time Bernie got sort of pushed out of the nomination process by Clinton supporters we all said that's a rigged
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supporters we all said that's a rigged process and we were right right I mean it was clearly looked like a rigged process in 2016 to me for the before that Democrats so if it happens again I feel like that's a confirmation don't you that our system is completely broken and that whatever you think where the Democrats are just a some kind of a cartel or mob situation so if the Democrats are more of a mob the kind of situation where a few people are deciding what's happening and we just find out about it later don't expect but Bernie to get the nomination now I suppose it's possible he could have so much support it would be impossible to rig the system and I think that's what Trump did I think what rub did was he probably would have been shut out of the system if he'd been less popular but he just made himself impossible to ignore and popular enough that the rigging had there been any just
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that the rigging had there been any just wouldn't work he was still too popular we'll see if if Bernie can achieve that but I think he can't I would expect so here's what I'm still predicting I'm predicting that wobbly Biden will you know sort of stumble across the finish line because he'll have the support of the insiders but the insiders will not really be supporting Biden this is my hypothesis and prediction there will really be supporting what power they will have in the Biden president presidency and one of the main levers that I would imagine that they would want is to have their own vice president somebody stronger than the president who can really be the power and maybe take over as soon as Biden fails completely because remember Biden could just quit Biden could win the presidency serve for a month and then tell us you know I don't feel so good I think my vice president needs to take over that's whywe that's why I picked such a good
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whywe that's why I picked such a good one totally possible because you know we haven't seen somebody that age and that wobbly looking become president so under those conditions I would expect Bernie to lose Biden to wind and Biden to fade either before an election day or soon after so that the vice president chosen by the Machine the real people in power can get their power back that's the plan I would think all right somebody says please don't say kumla it makes me sick ah sorry about that now it doesn't necessarily need to be calmly Harris who's the vice president Peck I think she's a good chance it just needs to be somebody who's more connected with let's say the Clinton camp than somebody who isn't that's all it would take
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watching Mike Bloomberg completely let's say perverse the system is kind of hilarious because he's he's violating just about every principle that Democrats have in order to be their leader what does that do to the Democrats if the if the guy they chooses their leader is the guy who got thereby violating everything they believe in so they don't believe in you know rich guys buying elections but he is they don't believe in old white guys being the leader of the party that's all about diversity but he might be they seemed to be leaning more toward climate change as the end of the world and we'd better get rid of all of our cars but he's not so it's starting to make me think that the rules changed that allowed Bloomberg into the debates it was probably about you know could be that maybe some some people are trying to take some baby
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people are trying to take some baby takes some support from Biden so that would work against the theory here you go all right so that's all I got for now and I'm going to talk to you tomorrow