Episode 785 Scott Adams: Tweaking the Simulation From the Control Room While Talking About Iran
Date: 2020-01-12 | Duration: 42:10
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today I’ve got to do a little tweaking and some of the programming has some issues so this reality that you’re experiencing the one that you think is real it’s a simulation I’m actually in the control room that controls the simulation for reality I had to tweak a few things I’ll be talking about that but not until not until this cycle thing you said what do you need for the simultaneous it well you don’t need to be in the control room for the simulation yourself you can just be where you are all you need is a cup or a mug or glass a tanker chelators time a canteen jug or flask a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee you might be wondering how my coffee stays in my cup as zero G’s what it does now join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine heat of the day the thing that makes everything better simultaneous it ah space version yeah
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simultaneous it ah space version yeah you’re wondering how do i how can I possibly drink a liquid in a cup as zero G’s and the answer is practice yeah takes a lot of practice so here’s the reason that I came up to the simulation control room there was some seemed to be some kind of glitch in the cause-and-effect chain something that needed a little reprogramming you you probably also the story about Iran downing a Ukraine airline with a missile and your first reaction probably was hey that looks like Iran’s fault looks like Iran’s fault because they’re the ones who fired the missile and brought down the Ukraine the airline leaving Turan but then some Democrats and then some Iranian ‘s pointed out we got that wrong it’s actually you have to you have to back up a little bit in the cause of the fact chain and see why did
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cause of the fact chain and see why did they fire the missile in the first place and as they accurately pointed out it was president Trump’s adventurism his adventurism if President Trump had not killed a Sultanate Salman a then there would be no reason for the Iranians to be worried about a counter-attack they wouldn’t have blown up their missile so I think I think the Democrats are completely right there you have to back it up and find out that President Trump was the cause of those problems but wait wait wait a minute this is the reason I came up to the control room for the simulation you can’t stop there right cause and effect did not start this week cause and effect has been going on for a while all right I programmed it that way that’s how the simulation worked so I came up to the control room to see how far I could trace it back to find out who’s really responsible so the chain is that the Iranians fired the missile but it was
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Iranians fired the missile but it was only because President Trump killed Psalm na and they had to respond and then there was danger but who created President Trump right because the cause of the fact keeps going and I would say it was the voters the voters voted in President Trump so it’s not really president Trump’s fault it’s the voters right well that’s not exactly true as I was doing some research I realized that the voters actually there were more voters for Hillary Clinton so I don’t think you can you can blame the voters because the voters actually chose Clinton but you can’t look at the Electoral College because the way the Electoral College works even though President Trump got fewer votes which really absolves the voters I think he got them in the right places so he won anyway so it’s really about the electoral college is the problem for why the airline guys shot down but wait the
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the airline guys shot down but wait the electoral college electoral college did not create itself but we’d agree right somebody created the electoral college it’s in the Constitution so really the blame kind of goes back to the founders right because they created the electoral college the electoral college allowed the voters to vote in Trump with fewer votes than Hillary Trump gets in there he kills Solomon a and then the Iranians accidentally shoot down the Ukraine airline so it kinda goes back to the founders of the United States so I was going to put the blame on the founding fathers of the United States for creating this whole series of events but then I realized wait a minute why were the founders writing a constitution they didn’t do it for Fontan there was a cause King George Great Britain so King George created a series of taxes in an uncomfortable
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series of taxes in an uncomfortable situation for the colonies which caused them to have a revolution which caused them to write a constitution which caused them to make the electoral college that caused Trump that caused him to kill Solomon a with Solomon a which caused the Iranian to counter-attack which causes them to accidentally shoot down the jet so I think we’ve traced this thing all the way back to the royal family in Great Britain and that’s sort of where the trail goes cold so I thought to myself probably exactly what you’re thinking right now right if the royal family in Great Britain is responsible for this whole Ukraine airline situation there’s probably some reparations that need to be discussed so I thought that seemed reasonable so I thought I better call the Queen and see what she can do to make good on this I don’t want to make this all public and everything but I wanted to call the Queen of England and just get her take on this maybe remind
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just get her take on this maybe remind her that it’s her responsibility her family anyway the monarchy and so I placed a call to the Queen of England and now I know what you’re thinking you’re thinking you can’t just call up the Queen of England because she’s busy right well you’re thinking of the old days the current Queen of England Queen Elizabeth she doesn’t have a lot of hobbies you know she’s not she’s not jogging she’s traveled everywhere that she needs to travel so it turns out that when she’s not doing a public event she’s not doing much so she’s available to take a call so I placed a call to the royal family and of course some operator you know intercepts and I said I’d like to talk to the Queen you know about this business with the Ukrainian air line being shot down it’s her fault or family’s fault and they said sir we cannot just put you through to the Queen it doesn’t work that way and I said oh
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it doesn’t work that way and I said oh I’m Scott Adams I’m the creator of the simulation and they said oh very good we’ll put you right through so I get connected to the Queen and I explained this whole situation and I said the only thing that’s going to make make goodness is some kind of reparations I mean you can’t get away with this you just you know your monarchy King George cause the Revolution the Constitution you like I’ll call it as Trump playing gets shot down what are you gonna do about it you seem likely to be some kind of price for that and she said you know if we if we’re making money everybody’s gonna find out it becomes a big deal is there any way we can do something on the down low I said well I’ll tell you if it’s not gonna be money you know money is sort of the universal self sell for everything self is that a word so I said look we’ll work something out this is what you got to do
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out this is what you got to do and I said Queen Elizabeth this is a big deal there’s got to be a price to be paid but if it’s not going to be money this is what I’ll settle for I need you to pick two members of the royal family and can’t come out of the family and that’ll be your price and the Queen said I can’t kick two members of my own family and of the royal family I can’t do that I said look I’m not even gonna tell you who it is it doesn’t even have to be one of your favorites right it doesn’t have to be Charles I know you like him you kind of attached to it just pick any two Royals if you want you can pick whichever Royals are the biggest pain in the ass and just kick him out of the family now I haven’t been following the headlines lately so I don’t know if she followed up on that but that was our agreement that because of this horrible chain of cause and effect the monarchy is taking responsibility and they’re getting rid of two members of the royal family the
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of two members of the royal family the ones they like the least to make up for it it so that’s why I’m here I’m in the simulation control room because every now and then things get out of whack and I’ve just I’ve just got to go in there and push a button you know tweak something a little bit so we’re all good now have you seen the pictures of the Iranian demonstrations so apparently the Iranian public some some portion of that mostly students I think are protesting their own government for lying to them about the downing of the airplane but I’ve got a little bit of suspicion about the size of those crowns have you noticed that the the images were seeing the videos coming out of Iran and they’re not many because you could probably get killed for taking that kind of video but have you noticed that the the pictures don’t really show the full
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the pictures don’t really show the full let’s say perimeter of the crowd so you could get some kind of aerial view I feel as though those protests might not be as big as we’re hoping that they are I just don’t know yet so I’m just gonna put that out there that based on the images as we see we may be getting a distorted opinion of how big these demonstrations are they might be a lot smaller than we think not because the public doesn’t want them to be big but because yeah there’s a real fear of being killed because the last group of protesters hundreds of them got killed we know that to be true so here’s the question this is is this Ukraine airline flight sort of eight point because you know sometimes people need what I call the fake because we do things because we have reasons but sometimes there are things you already want to do but you need a trigger you need something to get you going
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need something to get you going you need something to focus on and say oh that’s why I’m doing it because of this it’s the final straw so sometimes sometimes people need a psychological crutch to allow them to do the thing that they very much wanted to do anyway they just needed that little bit of a fake because of this and I’m wondering if this you create an airline situation given that Iran shot down and they are lighted with lots of Iranian citizens on it I’m wondering if the citizens of Iran will say all right that’s the final straw they could you know compared to all the other things the the regime is doing it’s not worse it’s not worse than all the other stuff they’re doing but sometimes the public just needs a thing to grasp on and say okay now we’re gone you know now you’ve taken it too far this is the final thing it might be that but I’m suspicious if I had to bet I’d bet against it but I’m hopeful that the public has changed
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hopeful that the public has changed there’s a viral video if you haven’t seen it it’s kind of it’s really interesting and it is apparently at one of the universities where these protests are going on in Iran the government or the University or somebody had painted a gigantic Israeli and American flags at the entrance to the University so that everybody who walked into the university would walk on top of the US flag and the Israeli flag I mean think of that I mean just thinking about the fact that there was an official like Government Act to put the flags of two other nations on the ground so you can walk on I’m just thinking about that can’t can we ever be friends with the regime that does that anyway the video showed the protesters in ratios are probably 97% or so it looked we’re walking around it so the protesters refused to walk on
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it so the protesters refused to walk on the flags of the US and Israel while they’re protesting their own country I said I imagine that normally they just go you know walk on it because it’s the fastest path now there were a few people who are making a point of walking on it and you have the protesters yelling I’m but watching just this huge throng of crowd walking so it’s this big column of people walking toward the place where the flags are on the sidewalk and then and they just split and they walk around it it’s kind of interesting because that’s that’s one of those things that tells you what they’re really thinking you can’t always look at a protest and know what’s going on because you don’t know you know is that a government protest is it a bigger deal than we think or a smaller deal is it just political or do they really feel this way but when you see them spontaneously unwilling to walk on the flags of the two countries that their government told them are the devil you’re seeing something basic happening
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something basic happening I think it’s respect I think that’s what is I think it’s respect and that’s a really good sign and let me say to the Iranian public that respect is completely returned meaning that the US has a lot of respect for the Iranian protesters a lot of respect and a lot of respect for the public in general it’s a very it’s an excellent public and I think that maybe social media especially you know if Iran never got any kind of real social media you’d find that public to public we just don’t want a war and we may be at a point in history think about this for a second Iran isn’t quite there but you can see the beginnings of this imagine if you will sometime in the future there are two countries doesn’t have to be the United States doesn’t have to be Arab just two countries and they’re about to get into a war or it looks like they might but social media allows the public’s of each country to
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allows the public’s of each country to talk directly and the public talks to each other it says do you want a war and the people in the other country say no we like you guys do you like us and the other country says you know we kind of like you guys no we don’t like what you’re doesn’t ensuing but we like you you know and you like us why is art why are our countries getting into war isn’t the real problem our common enemy is our governments I think we’re at the point where citizens will directly stop wars think about that this is an extension of my of my concept that the Republic is already a legacy system so our Constitution the way it’s drawn up is a republic where we elect people and send them off to make rules for us but the public now because of social media largely can control the politicians in real time down to the minute I mean we you could change I believe you could
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you could change I believe you could change what’s happening in in government in 15 minutes now I’m just gonna pick a number if somebody made a viral tweet saying you know government don’t do whatever it is you’re planning to do it would take 15 minutes to see that that tweet was so popular that the government would say what can they look at the tweet and they see it has 28 million likes or retweets against what they’re gonna do they’re gonna wait I think you say whoa did that tweet just get 20 million retweets and 15 minutes olá apparently we don’t have the country behind us on this that’s going to be a real problem now we’re not there yet but youyou can see us knocking on the door right the days of our idiot leaders bring the nation into war might be over it might be over we might actually be at
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it might be over we might actually be at a point where the government can’t go to war if they also have social media because the social media will say not in your life you you leader will never be reelected go to the streets we will tear you apart do not go to war I think we’re knocking on that door also in the highly symbolic but maybe not that meaningful Iran’s only female Olympic medallist I guess she meddled in Taekwondo her name is Kim iya Ella’s ADA she just defected so the only Olympic medalist female in Iran just affected good timing good timing right the so there’s nothing to this except that it’s symbolic and so here’s the question I
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symbolic and so here’s the question I asked you would I ran be the way Iran is if women were in control probably not right wouldn’t you agree that Iran would be a different place if women had political power to the point where they were making the rules probably not yeah in the United States wouldn’t you say that women probably have as much or many would argue even more political power if only because there are more of them there are more women than men and certainly on some issues I would say that they dominate the conversation so what’s the difference between the Iranian women who don’t have much power compared to the men there and the United States where it’s at least closer to equal you know depends on the issue you know there’s still there’s still lots of prejudice and discrimination and stuff that never goes away but in terms of
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that never goes away but in terms of political power one vote is one vote and there are more women in this country than men so in theory they have slightly more power in reality we don’t know but well it makes me wonder if there’s something about the about the nature of the relationship of men and women in personal situations that makes this difficult let me let me put this in the clearest possible terms this is speculation I don’t know enough about the culture to know but I’ll put this out there as a question there are X number of men on the street protesting probably a lot more men would like to protest but they’re they’re being reasonable about their personal risk let me ask you this do you think it’s the women of Iran where at least a big variable that is the women in Iran who are preventing the men who are not
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are preventing the men who are not protesting from going to the street in other words and maybe not directly and said in the sense of don’t go out there but even indirectly as in the man doesn’t want to go in the street because he’s the only form of support for his wife his mother his sister or whatever so could there be a whole bunch of men just putting this out there who individually are absolutely brave enough to go out there and risk their life for their country but they’re not brave enough and I’m not saying this is a flaw this would be a reasonable decision they’re not brave enough to put their wife at risk their mother at risk or their sister at risk could there be a gigantic bunch of men who are just itching itching to just throw out their government because you know it’s gonna be the men physically it’s gonna be the man I’m talking about the kinetic part the part where people get hurt that’s
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the part where people get hurt that’s gonna be the man right and right now there’s X amount of man usually younger ones who have a different risk profile maybe they don’t have you know the family situation at cetera but let me ask you this if the women of Iraq I’m sorry the women of Iran if they ever unleashed their men and leash is the wrong word I don’t want to put this in a negative context everybody’s acting reasonable so there’s no work no unreasonable people in the story I’m telling but if the women of Iraq decide to let their men go meaning don’t worry about me do what you got to do it’s over right I think the women of Iraq not maybe maybe not directly they may not be telling their husbands don’t go outside they may not be telling their sons and brothers don’t go outside but those sons and brothers and fathers are saying if I go outside these people of my family both men and women will suffer you know
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both men and women will suffer you know because if I get hurt they get hurt it could be that the women of Iraq are getting close to saying go do it because if they do it’s over because the men in Iraq I think have unlimited capacity for danger danger in a positive way I think the men of Iraq have unlimited capacity to take the risk for themselves but they don’t have unlimited capacity to take risk on behalf of wife mother’s sister nobody has that if the women if the women say go it’s on that’s just speculation by the way again I don’t know that much about the the world over there so it’s just a maybe so president Trump quite provocatively tweeted in Farsi so the English version of what he tweeted so we did in English
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of what he tweeted so we did in English and a Farsi version speaking directly to the Iranian public and if you haven’t seen it it’s historically really interesting so the English version says to the brave long-suffering people of Iran I’m sorry I’ve stood with you since the beginning of my presidency and my administration will continue to stand with you we are following your protests closely and inspired by your courage now don’t we always talk about other who’s saying Iran did I say Iraq I may have said Iraq instead of Iran people in the comments are correcting me so what I’m talking about is Iran everything everything I’ve said recently is Iran Iran Iran so if I said Iraq just erase that from your brain so here’s the interesting thing we’re supposed to we being countries are not supposed to
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being countries are not supposed to interfere with the internal politics of other countries that’s kind of basic right it’s all we’ve been talking about all we’ve been talking about for two years is the the other countries interfering with our elections here’s the President of the United States he’s not just interfering a little bit this is a lot of interference and it’s not subtle the President of the United States is saying GoPro GoPro testers basically he said he’s actually encouraging them to overthrow their government now you talk about interfering in the local politics of another country you can’t interfere any harder than this this is pretty hard interfering because it suggests that the Iranian public would get some support whatever that means should they you should they have some success in changing the government it’s very
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changing the government it’s very provocative I’m not sure if other presidents would have done this I and another president would have stayed out of it but I’m not sure or at least maybe he said something a little more neutral like well we hope everybody’s safer you know I hope their voices are heard or something so much in Eric but I think I think Trump leaned into it all right so there’s talk about so this part is about Iraq so the question of whether the US should pull its military we have 5700 troops there I guess still in Iraq and iraq is asking us leave and apparently trump has threatened that will will shut down some account that iraq has that the i don’t know central bank accounts that the Federal Reserve controls or something so we’re going to put
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something so we’re going to put sanctions and penalties on the Iraqi government if they force us to leave their country I don’t know what to think about that now I suppose it’s just part of the normal give-and-take you know we’re negotiating to not be kicked out of the country but I don’t know why I don’t think our government has made a good argument to the public why we need those 57 troops 5700 troops have you heard I have now heard any argument from my government that’s credible this out this is why they should stay so now we have this absurd situation where my government is threatening another country to prevent them from forcing us to do the things that I want my government to do doesn’t make any sense at all you might as well sanction me I mean you’re randomly sanctioning people who are trying to help you do the thing that you’re that your citizens want to be done one of two
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your citizens want to be done one of two things has to happen in Iraq from a voter perspective so just talking as a citizen of the United States I want to see one of two things either get all of our forces out of Iraq even whatever scheduled make sense or make an argument to the public why we should stay I’m open to an argument wouldn’t you listen to an argument i I would certainly listen to an argument that says why those those few thousand troops should stay I haven’t heard one I’ve heard you know general vague things about blah blah blah but I haven’t heard an argument you have an argument or get out that’s what I say apparently the public and 57% of independents who were the ones who depend decide most elections are against Trump’s actions on Iran are you a little surprised by that are you surprised that the majority of independents are opposed to Trump’s
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independents are opposed to Trump’s actions and ran I don’t know if that means what we think it means I think is easy to be opposed to his actions at the same time you acknowledge they worked am I wrong about that I I think the world is have is of two brains simultaneously at least some of us are I think you could say President Trump I am totally opposed to you getting all warlike and threatening military action against Iran that would be normal I mean it would be a pretty reasonable opinion that you’re opposed to any warlike threats against Iran but you could also say well I watched you do it I watched you take down Salomon a I definitely would not have done that but I watched you do it and it did work out well I think you can have both you could say I wouldn’t have done it but I acknowledge it worked I think a lot of independents are somewhere in that gray
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independents are somewhere in that gray zone where this where the survey that says the 57% of them disagree with the president it might not mean what you think it means I think this one’s sort of conflating a lot of stuff and maybe it’s more misleading than useful let’s see what else we got going on here I think ad know let’s talk about North Korea so when you see me talk about North Korea as you know it’s not like I’m some kind of North Korea expert so it helps when somebody who knows what they’re talking about agrees with me which happened recently so Devin Stewart who may be watching this right now it was a senior fellow at the Carnegie Council for ethics in international affairs and was founder of the council’s Asia program and he’s taught courses on Asian politics and international affairs
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Asian politics and international affairs I’m only bringing this up to say he has qualifications and expertise in the area of of that we’re talking about and he’s talking about North Korea and he’s writing in a publication called the national interest and I’m just gonna read this paragraph to you largely because it agrees with what I said but even more largely because it’s such a big opportunity that I don’t understand why we’re not we’re not taking it all right so look for the big opportunity so this is from Devin Stewart in the national interest most crucially this is at the end of his article Kim warned his country to not sacrifice security for economic benefits so in other words Kim is signaling very clearly that yeah I’d be great if we could develop our country make more money but that’s not the main thing so we’re all on the same side that the main thing is that Kim stays in power and the country stays safe all
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power and the country stays safe all right so isn’t North Korea is not asking for golf courses or to become another South Korea true but it almost no cost no cost right no cost the United States could alter the security environment in a positive way in Asia by jointly declaring an end to the Korean War which is what I’d suggest the United States has learned from its endless wars in Iraq Afghanistan and on the Korean Peninsula that I cannot spread democracy by force or edict but American power can be used for good by creating incentives for peaceful behavior as Reagan defense official Fred pickle noted every war must end it’s past time for the United States to declare an end to the endless Korean War Kim has left a small opening for Trump to move forward Trump just needs to push on an open door now I love that analogy if Ernie before pushing on an open door
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if Ernie before pushing on an open door that’s what I’m saying does anybody have a reason why we can’t just declare an end to the Korean War now given that Kim is watching the I’m sure he’s watching on some level how the Congress of the United States is trying to to you know let’s say is trying to put some controls on the president waging war so Kim trusts that President Trump does not want war I think Kim trusts that so there’s evidence to suggest that Kim likes trouble personally which suggests he’s not as afraid of Trump as he might be of some other president so then you’ve got to worry about the rest of the country you got to worry about Congress and Congress seems pretty anti-war like at the moment if you’re Kim and you’re looking at the Iranian situation you’re probably saying to yourself oh it’s a good thing I’m not killing any Americans lately right so
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killing any Americans lately right so that’s the first thing you’re gonna say if you’re Kim because the we’re going to kill you if you killed an American that that foreign policy rule seems to be now the American red line you killed even one American that’s it you know that now we’re gonna get get tough now of course North Korea is nuclear so all the calculations are different but I would say that we could declare an official and the war in North Korea and Kim jong-un could reasonably imagine at that point that we have no intention of any military action against North Korea and that might make them flexible on the nukes over the long term so cost us nothing let’s declare an end to the war because we have a psychological plate we have a psychological problem with North Korea we don’t have the military problem remember I always tell you that in order to have a war you need you need at least one of the two sides to think it’s a
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one of the two sides to think it’s a good idea right there’s no I don’t think there’s any such thing as a war at least in modern times I don’t think there’s ever been a war unless at least one of the sides thought they had something to gain what would we gain by a war with North Korea we can’t even imagine it what would North Korea gain with a war with the United States well I can’t even imagine it you’ve got to to to countries who only want to not have a war how in the world can you not make an agreement how do you not make an agreement when you already agree you don’t even have to negotiate anything because you’re both at that you’re both actually starting at the endpoint the endpoint is under no conditions do we want to be a threat to each other that’s where you want to get to but it’s also where you’re starting there’s nothing to negotiate it’s a completely psychological problem it’s a hundred percent psychological at this point there’s no physical reason for a war
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there’s no physical reason for a war just how we think about stuff that’s it now of course it does matter if they get rid of their nukes but the only reason for the nukes is their psychological at one point it was real they had a real threat in the past but the real threat in the past from the United States has now morphed into just a psychological one and so you need a psychological solution somebody says have I talked about Krugman yes I have we did that all right I’m just looking at your comments here because I’ve been jabbering a little bit Oh where’s hunter yeah so president Trump humorously says that he can you know in his debates all he needs to say is where’s hunter and now some protesters are showing up that Biden’s events with a where’s hunter the chant I don’t know none of that’s important it’s just kind of fun the erased epstein
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it’s just kind of fun the erased epstein footage I think the epstein is getting boring to me because I feel like there’ll be an endless drip drip drip of new epstein stuff but I’m pretty sure he killed himself and it would take a lot to change my mind and what’s not going to change my mind is some evidence disappear that’s not going to change my mind for those of you joining late I’m coming to you from the control room of a simulation where I had to tweak the simulation a little bit you probably don’t know this but this is the simulation control room impeachment have you noticed that I barely talk about impeachment it’s because it’s because there’s nothing left of it impeachment is the is the big issue this sort of rotted on its own I feel like impeachment was this nice
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I feel like impeachment was this nice fresh piece of fruit a few months ago a few months ago we’re like a nice piece of fruit and then we all went on holiday for you know the holiday season everybody wanted a vacation and started thinking about everything else and we left the fruit on the kitchen counter and we came back from vacation and that beautiful fruit had rotted into this little rotted stinking thing and that’s what’s left of of of impeachment I can barely even talk about it because has no relevance to anything nothing’s gonna happen it’s just politicians wasting my time every single moment that a politician talks about impeachment I want to get rid of that politician every minute I see of any politician talking about a stupid issue that has no importance whatsoever is purely symbolic it’s wasting our time I’m starting to get to the point you know I hate to be this you
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the point you know I hate to be this you know this person but don’t we pay Congress I mean seriously we pay them to go make independent ish decisions that that are compatible with their with their constituents but we pay them does this appeasement stuff look like doing work it doesn’t look like work to me what the president does mostly looks like work every day we wake up and the president goes to work every day we wake up and see here about impeachment Congress isn’t going to work you know there’s I can tolerate I can tell the rate a great range of you know disagreement and silliness about politics if the people are doing work here’s sort of my red line where I’m no longer just joking around if we’re paying you and you’re not working I
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paying you and you’re not working I don’t care what your opinion is I don’t care I don’t care what your policies are I don’t care what your internal thoughts are I don’t care what you did with your day if it wasn’t work and I’m paying you I think you need to be fired all right are you with me at some point it’s no longer a political conversation at some point is an employment conversation and I think we’re right on the on the border of that at some point this whole about walking and chewing gum has to be called out they can’t walk into your gum do you know why because nobody can in the sense that you can’t focus on everything the same way if you’re focusing on one thing that is energy and attention that we’re paying you to put on other things if you’re putting it on the wrong stuff you’re not walking and chewing gum you’re you’re taking your focus off the ball you’re not doing infrastructure you’re not
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not doing infrastructure you’re not doing other things so I think we have to I’m starting to lose the frame that this is even a political difference it doesn’t feel like that it feels like people were getting paid and they’re not showing up for work that’s what it feels like to be Trump love him or hate him Trump shows up for work right every single day has Trump even taken a sick day I don’t think so I think he’s worked for three years including weekends because presidents don’t really take weekends off I think he’s working every day since he’s been elected he’s suited up and he’s he’s gone to the office probably every day and even on the golf course he’s yeah he’s working so I think it’s time to call the question you know it’s one thing to disagree politically fine I’m okay with that but you got to go to work you got to go to work if we’re paying you that’s not optional all right that’s enough saying the same thing over and over again all
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the same thing over and over again all right that’s all I got for you today and I guess I will talk to you tomorrow