Episode 770 Scott Adams: All the Interesting News and Simultaneous Sipping

Date: 2019-12-28 | Duration: 41:52

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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a Elon Musk’s persuasion expertise and “super safe” tunnels concept Joe Biden will obstruct Congress and not comply with subpoena? North Korea is a pretend military problem Creating trust when none currently exists Reframing and the concept of countries as brands FREE homes in exchange dedicated product and services use? Designers and project managers to fix the world’s problems

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come on in here yeah it's time it's time for coffee with Scott Adams and it's good to see you Erica erica Michael Mike Vaughn in here Sharona we know what you need for the simultaneous it that's why you're here you know your earth all you need is a cup or a marker class Challenger Stein the canteen jugglers last Vaseline kind fill it with your favorite beverage I like coffee join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that you dopamine hit of the day the thing that makes everything better the simultaneous app go oh yeah that's that that's a good sipping right there Suze thank you for all your well wishes people congratulating me on getting engaged with the lovely Christina Bashan a

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with the lovely Christina Bashan a wonderful week for me very happy and let's talk about some news okay that's why you're here I know you are so it'll be news but sort of most of the news is sort of cold news aha it's very cold and somebody having audio problems I don't think so let's talk about a few things I was impressed by a tweet by Elon Musk Elon Musk is part of the so-called PayPal mafia meaning that he was one of the founders from PayPal several of whom such as Peter teal and Reed Hoffman went on to start other wonderful things themselves and I always wondered if there's something about that group that was fundamentally different it could be either just geniuses and once you make your first fortune it's easier to make

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your first fortune it's easier to make you
you martien so it could be nothing but coincidence and and obvious reasons but it seems like those PayPal mafia people just have some different understanding of how the human brain works just some other kind of gear that they seem to be able to go into to to capture the X Factor the the imagination the you know the the motives the you know the needs and wants of their people there's there seems to be something that they have an extra vision on and this this tiny little tweet from the Elon Musk is one of those tells meaning it it is signals that there's something extra going on from the author of the tweet and here's what he said it was just the smallest little tweet you probably know that he owns a company or he's a founder of a company called the boring company B o RI

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company called the boring company B o RI ng and it stands for is to play on words but it stands for boring tunnels so they've got these big pieces of equipment that will quickly and efficiently bore pretty big tunnel and so he tweets and here's the exact quote build super safe earthquake proof tunnels under cities to solve traffic and then he says you know definitely yes maybe and no I like traffic so he gives you three choices that are not really three choices there their bias toward yes but look how look how well he presented in one sentence the proposition he said build is super safe so what's interesting here is that he put super safe before he even told you what the topic was so you knew that whatever was gonna come after build super safe he's already framed it so now you're in the mode of oh what is it he's

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you're in the mode of oh what is it he's gonna be talking about this super safe and then he goes on and says it's earthquake proof good I don't know what he was talking about yet but it's super safe it's earthquake-proof so my mind is already am safe and then he says tunnels now if he had said tunnels first where would my brain be if you say do we should we build tunnels under cities we can make them safe completely different right so if you say tunnels first people get claustrophobic they think about earthquakes they think about tunnels collapsing and everything and then you say oh but they're safe it's already too late because the person's already downed themselves to an opinion and it's hard to talk somebody out of an opinion if they don't have an opinion maybe you can assign it but whatever their first opinion end is it's going to be sticky so Ilan knowing that if they think tunnels before they think safe words it

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tunnels before they think safe words it so that all the safety stuff is first have you have you seen me do this when we talk about a generation for nuclear the way that I always advise people to talk about it is to say let's say somebody's never heard of generation before they don't know what that means so the way you introduce it is say generation four nuclear is the kind that eats eats nuclear waste from other plants for its fuel and it's safe for meltdowns and the reason that when I say generation four I add eats nuclear waste and say from meltdowns is because it's the first thing you're gonna wonder about now in the case of nuclear energy you don't really have to you know put the words in reverse but you got to say I'm really really up front and soon so anyway that's just a little little signal that Elon certainly understands how people work brains work Joe Biden

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how people work brains work Joe Biden humorously is stating that he will not comply with the subpoena to testify in the Senate impeachment trial of Trump if he is asked that's right Joe Biden just publicly said he would obstruct Congress he would obstruct the Senate are you kidding me it's like I don't think this story could be any funnier then when it comes down to Biden Biden said yeah I'm just gonna obstruct justice cuz I don't like other system is it just makes the whole thing ridiculous it's it's that it's that final it's that final little straw that just makes the whole thing just look stupid now now most of you probably thought the holy Peecher thing was stupid and political anyway but once you get to the point where you say okay Biden come in and talk to us he's like yeah I think I better obstruction justice here I'm just not going to do that your whole argument

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not going to do that your whole argument is gone there's nothing left I there's some interesting stuff happening let's talk about historian and writer Stephen Beschloss he tweeted this morning that he still doesn't understand why Trump why Trump's still won the presidency after he was called out for allegedly alleged being the operative word here mocking a disabled man with a with a gesture that looked like he was imitating him and mocking him now how could you be a presidential historian and not be aware of all the compilation clips showing him to the same same gesture mocking other people like Ted Cruz who have no physical disability whatsoever and so I tweeted back you

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whatsoever and so I tweeted back you know you say he couldn't understand how you get elected after that happens and I said because his supporters have access to more news than his critics which was literally true by the way so supporters also the compilation clips didn't all see it some people just didn't care but remember he was the president who is elected under the promise of being offensive Trump never promised his his supporters that he would be unoffensive he literally promised he would be offensive he promised it he said it publicly because that's what it means when he says he's not going to be politically correct the opposite of politically correct is not racist right the people on the Left would like us to believe that but the opposite of politically correct is offensive it's not racist it's not sexist it's not any of those things you could be those two I'm not saying that you're off the hook

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I'm not saying that you're off the hook for that stuff I'm saying that being offensive is its own category it just means you don't give a about what somebody thinks it doesn't mean you're racist it doesn't mean you're a misogynist or any of that stuff so President Trump promised it directly and he promised it as clearly as you can say it I'm not going to be politically correct only has one meaning I'm gonna be offensive so if you're asking why would people vote for somebody who surprised us by being in in the opinion of some people I think they're wrong but that he did something that some people think is offensive that's what he promised so why would his supporters change their mind if he gave them exactly what he said he was gonna do which is I'm not gonna worry about that stuff if it's offensive its offensive but the bigger question is how could you be a famous historian presidential historian and author and this is like your main topic and I

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and this is like your main topic and I don't think he'd ever seen the compilation clips because it was certainly softened your opinion about it if you had as it did for everybody who saw them now somebody tried to argue well I've seen the compilation clips and he uses a little more movement when he's talking about the guy who has the bad arm than the other times when admittedly he does the similar movement but they're a little less aggressive so therefore it must be that really this one time he exactly those same movements they're a little more aggressive so that must mean he was really mocking the guy no it doesn't mean that doesn't mean that at all it's not even slightly meaning that here's what it means he does his mocking action fairly often there are lots of videos of him doing it in different context some of them are bigger motions and others that's it that's all you know all you know is he makes the motion bigger sometimes a smaller sometimes you

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bigger sometimes a smaller sometimes you don't know anything else anything else is mind-reading alright let's talk about Iran so there's a report that there might have been I think the official report of like 300 deaths and these protests recently Reuters said there are 1,500 people killed in two weeks if Iran murdered 1500 of its own citizens in two weeks let's say that's true how do they stay how do they stay a country I mean that's that's a pretty big death count for a country that at least sometimes has access to the Internet so I'd be really watching that story 1,500 seems close to a breaking point you know what if you were to imagine how many how many Iranian citizens protesting would have to be murdered by the government before

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to be murdered by the government before the country would fall and I don't know the number is at 10,000 is it 20,000 would they have to kill 20,000 of their own people before the public would say all right that's enough you know we're done with this government 15 hundreds a lot probably not enough to topple the country but it's moving in that direction and I haven't heard if the protests have slowed down but I suppose they have we did hear that the reason for the the bad smell in Tehran apparently there have been a bad smell on a lot of days and people were trying to figure out what that was it was because they were burning a low quality fuel that you normally wouldn't use because of this problem unless you had shortages so that smell that they sometimes smell in Turan which which is apparently pretty bad is a polluting dangerous kind of fuel that you wouldn't burn if unless you add

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that you wouldn't burn if unless you add two basically so things are going bad there I'm going to talk about North Korea then I'm going to pivot back to Iran the thing that fascinates me about North Korea and I say this all the time is that it's a pretend military situation but it's actually just a psychological problem the psychology puzzle now if it were just a military problem I wouldn't have any insight and knowing that but in the realm of psychology I can at least brainstorm a little bit and maybe maybe add something to the texture and composition of the ideas and that might be worth something so let's talk about that now I'll try to put it like a different spin on this so it doesn't seem like you're here in the same North Korea story every time but here's the basic problem if you try to get trust first you have an unsolvable problem meaning that North Korea says we'll do

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meaning that North Korea says we'll do this if you do that we say we'll do this if you do that but nobody wants to go first because there's no trust so what do you do when the problem is trust and you don't know how to create trust well the first thing you should do is not start there don't start with trust because that's just not possible there's no way to get there from here we can't just suddenly trust and then work from there so you have to cheat the system a little bit you have to figure out how to get fake trust or do what I call the magic trick I'll explain that in a minute but here's here's how I would approach it if I were president of the country I would start by saying hey North Korea can we agree on what what the looks like so I would get North Korea to say can we just agree what we wanted to look like you know what what would be this state of success describe it and

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this state of success describe it and then have a common vision let's say that state of success is that North Korea stays in business they open up for more Commerce there their weapons are no longer pointed at us our weapons are no longer pointed at that so let's just first agree what it should look like don't need too many details just say we'd like to be trading partners we'd like to not be enemies and we'd like to now have our military in any way threatening yours or yours to threaten ours so you start there it's very important to have the image of where you're going otherwise you won't go in the same direction second thing is you need some kind of a roadmap well actually first you need to reframe things which is part of the vision here's the most here's the most persuasive sentence I can think of to reframe our relationship with North Korea it goes like this hey North Korea there are lots of

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hey North Korea there are lots of reasons for us to be friends and get along there are no reasons to be enemies that's it that's a whole argument there are lots of reasons to get along safety economics lots of reasons there isn't a single reason you can't list one and neither can we why we should be pointing pointing weapons in each other North Korea I can't think of a reason we should be pointing weapons at you and vice versa can you do you have any reasons and this is this is terribly um powerful because you're not telling them what they should do you're asking asking is really persuasive compared to telling if you say stop pointing your weapons at us people just automatically take the reverse well I'll point my weapons on you don't tell me I can't point my weapons you I'm a country you know manage your own country I'll

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you know manage your own country I'll point my weapons anywhere I want but if you say we don't we can't think of a reason to point a weapon are you help us out here can you think of a reason to point a weapon at us because we can't think of one completely changes how you imagine the situation it's very powerful next thing you do is build some kind of a roadmap where you have a series of steps where you could say ok we open it up to a little bit of travel that went ok ok we did some things with some currency some we set up some systems to talk with each other and that went ok so you want a long-term roadmap where it's stuff that's kind of easy because you want something that looks like momentum momentum is very important because being in a in a locked state for a long time is bad you know you just nobody can get what they want but if you have even a little bit of progress just a little bit then people start thinking of it in a

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then people start thinking of it in a directional sense and then it's easier for them to add the next bit of little progress so you need to at a minimum something needs to be happening every day this is a systems versus a goal right so the goal is that you're living in peace whatever but the system getting there should be that every single day North Korea is working with South Korea and the United States to have a little bit more interaction on a positive way in whatever low level you know random things are just just positive small progress so you always have to have that going on I don't think we have it I haven't heard of anything lately there was sound to my mind like anything like progress so you need to find that even if it's very very small then
so here's where I think it needs to go and this will get back to Iran and other

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and this will get back to Iran and other countries China and Russia so I'm going to make a very big case and it goes like this in our history including our recent history you know world war ii vietnam in our in our human history military conflict has been unfortunately an effective tool a country could take over another country it happens and they could even make a gain out of it it might even work out well for the conquering country took it over you know collect taxes maybe you're more secure from other countries attacking you whatever but i would say that in 2020 and it's been the case for a while the economic war is just better and we see Trump being the really the major face of what I'd call economic war now we've had sanctions and economic wars for for decades but Trump seems to be the one

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decades but Trump seems to be the one who's really defines the transition from I can't think of any reasons to send bombs when we could just squeeze the economy it's probably safer probably fewer people die probably get a better result so we've moved from military as the primary weapon of country against country at least of say big powerful countries at to economics you see this with China for example because there's no situation where having a military war with China will ever make sense for China or for us and there's no you can't even imagine any circumstance in the your wildest imagination where either the United States or China would ever cut or think they could come out ahead by starting a war with each other and I would argue that after we've moved from military as really the main and only tool to economics as the main and only tool there's still another phase

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tool there's still another phase and it would be a really good phase to get to and I'll call it the countries as brands phase it goes like this ideally we would not want to have to put sanctions on North Korea but we would still want economic pressure to cause them to get rid of let's say their prison camps or to get rid of any other activity we think over there we don't want we'd like to get to a place where North Korea wants to take care of it itself to improve its X for example if let's say North Korea opened up and became a manufacturing center tomorrow and you started getting your clothing saying with an exciting made in North Korea would you be cool with that probably not because you'd say what about otto warmbier would say what about their prison camps you know what about counterfeiting or whatever else they're doing what about their nukes so you

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doing what about their nukes so you would be disincentive disincentivized from buying North Korean products because their brand is no good and if they needed to fix their brand they would do it for their own purposes which is to increase their economic game and we wouldn't have to pressure them so we wouldn't have to threaten them with bombs we wouldn't have to threaten them with sanctions we would just say you know a lot more people are gonna buy North Korean sneakers if you clean up your act so I think the ultimate place you want to go is that the new nuclear countries compete on a brand basis you see for example China putting massive amounts into Africa now part of that is to secure natural resources etc I think that's the main part but that entire process has a lot to do with a brand and what you think about China and would you

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what you think about China and would you rather do business which I know or the United States or Russia which of those brands works best for you China is at the moment ruining its brand with what they're doing with the forst forst transplants and the prison camps in Hong Kong and all that and you can see that the decoupling for China is gonna be big I think and it's gonna hurt China's economy is going to be precarious specifically because their brand has been ruined in the past year or so so I think where you need to go with North Korea is to say look here's the deal we don't want to do military economic pressure is sort of a 20-19 solution can we get to a better place where you're just competing on brand and if you want to set up manufacturing facilities well nobody's going to buy your stuff until you clean up your act so maybe you can sell to a third world

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so maybe you can sell to a third world country or something but you're not going to get the big markets until you clean up your act so that's where I see it going from military as the tool to economic sanctions as the tool that's where we are today to some day and I'm not only talking about the big nuclear countries including North Korea because their nuclear the big ones just have to compete on brand because it doesn't make sense for two nuclear countries to be sanctioning each other or shooting each other it just doesn't make sense all right so here's the magic trick I talked about if you're trying to get people to trust each other and you're trying to get people to you know move down this roadmap you know down the path sometimes you have to do this little psychological trick that I'll call the magic trick and it can take many forms but it's how you it's how you get out of a psychological roadblock you know if you're stymied psychologically this is a magic trick that just works psychologically to get

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that just works psychologically to get you out of that blockage and I'll start by an example and then generalize it suppose we said to North Korea and again this is just brainstorming you know you should all understand I don't know enough about international events to have you know firm good opinions on this thing so this is in in the in the service of educating you on the concept alright suppose you said to North Korea well North Korea we've asked you to go first with your nukes and you've asked us to go first United States by withdrawing our military from South Korea but how about this we're going to unilaterally declare an end to the North Korean War we'll just say we're out as far as we're concerned the war is over yeah the war that's been technically on the books for final forty whatever years so the first thing you do is just psychological you say we don't see a reason to be a war we don't see why you should point at us we just can hand it you know you could end

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just can hand it you know you could end it - we'd love it if you'd agree but we're going to end it because there's nobody to fight with you can't have a war unless you have two sides that want to be in a war and we don't have that so we're just we're just going to say it doesn't exist anymore so make it official so that's the first thing and it's just psychological and it cost you nothing here's the second thing you declare that you're going to repurpose your forces in South Korea this is a part where I don't know what I'm talking about so just go with the concept more than the details here and you say to North Korea now that we're not at war we're going to unilaterally we don't even need to you know get your agreement we're just going to repurpose our forces so that they're more about let's say containing China's military in the in the area so we'll say North Korea we still have a lot of military here maybe we didn't remove any of it but we're gonna repurpose it it'll have a different function and it's because we

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different function and it's because we don't see you as the threat anymore we see the in the long term so China is our mutual threat in other words you create a situation in which you say somewhat artificially artificially this is the magic trick because you're saying to yourself wait a minute I let me think ahead to you you're saying to yourself Scott our North Korea is not going to believe that you just changed the mission of your military right on their border and you're just leaving the same stuff there like that's completely not believable that's the magic trick the magic trick is that they don't need to believe it exactly they need to they need to think it sort of looks like it's moving in the right direction in other words North Korea may need to convince its own population that the United States does not have dangerous intentions and simply saying that we're

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intentions and simply saying that we're gonna leave it there but we're gonna change its mission doesn't really make North Korea that safe compared to the current situation but if you combine that with ending the war and then saying we're just gonna be more guns in a different direction suddenly that's the magic trick because it feels like something's happening even though the reality is we'd have the same military assets it wouldn't take much to just turn the guns in the other direction so I think you get there by offering a a unilateral go first concession that's almost entirely psychological and they know it because they have they know they have the same problem that they're solving a psychology problem not a military problem and I think that they might be willing to go along with the sharad if you will the charade that that it's a it's a different time that and that the real concern is that maybe China gets a little aggressive over

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China gets a little aggressive over there so the reframe would be to say you know in the long run North Korea we would like you to be on our side because we're both a little concerned about China and maybe you should be concerned too you're right on the border and they'd certainly like to have more control over you not last so that's the that's the idea
I've got a prediction for the future about housing here's a housing prediction of the future I think we will reach a point where corporations we'll provide a relatively low income homes for free in return for using an entire suite of products that are all from the same corporation so let me give you an example if you if live if you're living in an apartment or a house no matter who you are you're probably

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matter who you are you're probably paying for a variety of insurances you're paying for your phone service your cable your internet to your your Wi-Fi your electricity your gardening you might have an appliance insurance and and that's off so suppose a corporation said you may live in this house you know maybe it's a lease or something and you can live there for free but you don't have any choice while you're living there you have to use our cable our phone or our products our insurance etc and those things collectively you know and you have to use our gardener etc collectively it might be enough that you could get a corporation to give you a free home you just have to use their products at market prices same price everybody else is doing yes somebody's saying in the comments a Walmart housing versus Amazon housing

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Walmart housing versus Amazon housing yeah I was thinking that companies like Apple Google Amazon Walmart exactly those are the companies and here's the other thing delivery right now I use a whole bunch of different delivery systems from you know FedEx to UPS to Amazon to the mail to - door - - you name it maybe you just use one so I would see that coming there's a company called lifetime I think it's Lifetime Fitness that's branching out to create entire living communities around their facilities so they've got their their lifetime Fitness is a big health club that has lots of different services from child care to all God's things and now they're building a lifetime work so there's like office space you can rent that's actually connected to their gym which is great and then it's also connected apparently to some apartments

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connected apparently to some apartments so you could actually have an apartment a place of work and a gym with all kinds of different facilities from haircuts to childcare to food and everything else and it's all right in one place this was basically three buildings they give you living working and and all your recreation and childcare and everything else just drop the kids off and they can play and stuff and I thought apparently the the business model for this works so this I saw an interview with the CEO and they're building these things and he says that at least the working space part of it would be profitable on day one and I imagine the the the living spaces ones would be as well because that's easy to cost down so this might be a pretty big deal I love I love the idea of putting all of your good stuff in one place and getting rid of the commute so that's another model so I think you can see in next 10 years all these new models faretta provide

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these new models faretta provide low-cost high quality life and all of these are in the category of reducing the I would say the corporate not corporate the the federal debt because right now we don't have enough money for all of us to live a good life there's no amount of taxes that would let everybody have a good life you have to lower the cost of having a good life and then there's enough money and so you can see it with lifestyle and housing can change a lot all right it's sort of a weird week isn't it because we don't have all the usual trum news you know we got a little but yeah there are other things worth talking about I got a question for you I realized that one of the biggest things that's missing in the current time to solve all of our biggest problems is a job that exists so here's a question for you does this already exists is there such thing

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this already exists is there such thing as a major college major or a profession with a like a professional organization for what I would call system designs now when I say system I don't mean a computer system I mean a system such as healthcare a system such as building homes for from low-income people a system such as building a community so somebody's saying yes if you could be more specific because an engineer doesn't get you there somebody's saying I do idea was a design firm in San Francisco and elsewhere I've worked with them I guess you could argue that they would be capable of that yes that's actually not bad but I haven't seen them work on maybe they do on systems for like governments and stuff Imagineers operations so it's

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and stuff Imagineers operations so it's not really a project manager job anyway so here's the point what we need is people who would be the designers of how to fix addiction the designer of how to build a low-cost home the designer of how to fix healthcare and we should be we should be looking at what designers are coming up with and letting the public grapple with it let me give you my cleanest example of this if you were going to design a home today to sell how would you do it well you do it the way all the big home builders do they would build a home that would look good in a photograph and would make you want to buy it if you walk through it so right now the process of designing a home is designing a home that somebody will buy because that's the whole point you're buying just you want to sell them but what the designers don't do is build it

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what the designers don't do is build it from the function up so that it's perfect for the customer it homes are built for the benefit of the seller you know the person who built the home in the first place now for the benefit of the buyer that's the way all products are built right products are built for the benefit of the person who built it not the benefit of the person who's buying it but you could imagine maybe it's an open source project and where in which you say let's design a perfect living room just the dimensions and once you've designed it you make sure that it's perfectly square or rectangular in the sense that when you're doing let's say the walls and the floors that you never have to cut anything so you take the the floor tiles and they're all I don't know one foot by one foot and it always fits exactly into your perfect living room because you sized it so it's exactly you know even even amount of one foot tiles now the point is that you

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foot tiles now the point is that you could drop a construction cost to almost nothing if you made it's so easy that anybody could put in their own floor because literally nothing is being cut they could build their own wall and blocks again nothing's being sawed nothing's being cut nothing's being nailed so I do think that if you started with function and said alright what do people do and then you built the perfect room to do it it's got the right closets and drawers and surfaces and outlets and height and light and all that stuff and then you could have maybe some you know several examples that are the best of the versions so you should here are the things you should be able to do away with by better planning you should be able to do way with the engineering expense because you only build a few different types of models you don't need an engineer this is pre engineered you should be able to do away with the architect because again you're doing common designs and you design at

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doing common designs and you design at once and that's that's all idea you should be able to do away with most maintenance such as painting so if you make an exterior that's less a brick or something else you never need to paint it so you just do away with maintenance so if you started with design first you could do away with just huge swaths of costs you could centralize some things etc so it's all about designs and so sooner or later somebody is going to the designer I was thinking of doing this on Twitter and the way I would do it is I would started I'm just brainstorming here but I would start a separate Twitter address and I would tweet out for example show me a picture of the perfect bathroom the perfect bedroom the perfect living room and people would just submit comments and vote them up and maybe you could build maybe you

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and maybe you could build maybe you could build the beginning of what would look like an ideal low-cost home and then once you have the ideal low-cost home you encourage companies to compete with sweets sweets of services your your Wi-Fi your phone your insurance everything else and then you make them compete too sweet again sweet in a shell of the building that's perfectly designed to be the most liveable place all right somebody says a lot of hotels have a good design you know here's the thing if you're a designer you don't really have the option of just designing the thing that somebody else already designed because your job as a designer so you've got to make the next hotel look different from the last and if they're different one of them's not as good right so hotels are about making your thing look different and as long as you're making your thing look different you're going to be able to rank them from the one

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to be able to rank them from the one that's good to the one that's better whereas if you started with let's just make the best room and then we'll stick these best rooms together until we've got best houses that would be a completely different way to approach it all right nothing else exciting going on today so I'm going to move along but what we need are designers and project managers to fix the world think about that talk to you later