Episode 724 Scott Adams: Shampeachment, Ukraine Hoax Funnel, Loserthink, Road Coffee
Date: 2019-11-13 | Duration: 42:31
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My new book LOSERTHINK, available now on Amazon https://tinyurl.com/rqmjc2a MUST READ: Breitbart’s impeachment article by Joel Pollack Gives you KEY info from the transcript, HIDDEN by media A trip down the hoax funnel, reviewing the arguments 60 Minutes interview from years ago…TOP China Fentanyl guy Iran’s economy crumbling, oil exports only 5% of what they were A sharp-minded observation about Joe Biden and Ukraine
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pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom hey everybody thanks for joining me come on in here do you have your dainty little Cup today I will not be drinking from a man-sized Cup and by that I mean any gender you like I kind of just that for 2019 but one thing I know it's that the simultaneous sip will set your day off right I don't care what's happened so far it's about to turn positive and all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass Stein or jealous the canteen thermos could be a shot glass anything fill it with your favorite beverage I like coffee and prepare to join me now for the dopamine hit of the day the unparalleled feeling the the feeling of connectedness the thing that makes everything better the simultaneous sip Co sublime there's
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the simultaneous sip Co sublime there's no other word to describe it supply alright well we got some things going on here got some things first of all I'd like to give a shout out to the best room service deliver of all time if you've ever ordered room service in a hotel you know that when they deliver the food the one thing you want more than anything else is for the person who delivered the food to leave your room leave the room bring me the food now leave the room very fast because I want to eat my food but you don't get that instead if I may do an impression of everybody except this one awesome person who delivered my food today it goes like this they'll bring your food down and you'll say and I'll say and I do this as sort of a mental experiment it's part of a psychology thing I'll say just leave everything it's great just the way it is just leave it right there and where's the check inside and they're so trained that they will
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and they're so trained that they will say oh just leave you here okay and then they'll start taking the plastic off and they'll say no leave leave these saran wrap on just leave it where it is they'll say oh okay just leave it where it is okay and we'll put this over here no no don't rearrange it leave it right where it is okay okay so I'll just pour the coffee no no just leave it where it is all right all right so um would you like me to pull the chair over no no just leave it where it is anyway I've been doing this as sort of a running experiment to see if I can break any of them of their habit and today and I swear to god I've been doing this for years for years I've been trying to see if I could make them stop touching my tray of food and just leave and today the best deliverer ever he comes in with a tray he slaps it down he hands me the check doesn't take anything off doesn't move anything and
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anything off doesn't move anything and that he says and I will love him forever for this I will love him forever he's a stranger but I love him he backs up to the doorway and says out loud I'll just be here in the doorway with the doorway halfway opened and one foot in the hallway while you sign the cheque and I held the cheque and then looked at him standing in the doorway ready to leave without once messing with anything on my tray and I felt love I felt love for him and I gave him a little extra tip and I believe we are bond to do the best server ever and as I gave him the buddy I had to I had to shout at him because he was already halfway down the hall I couldn't even give him a compliment he was already gone he was like disappearing into the hallway and I shouted magnificent food bringer I love
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shouted magnificent food bringer I love you you're the best I've ever had then he was gone it was like he was never real an angel perhaps so I shall drink to the best in room dining experience of my entire life it's probably true
so kudos to him let me tell you why why in part this mattered to me I used to be a waiter / busser years ago when I was in college I would be bussing tables with some other Buster's and we worked the a big breakfast was that a hotel so all everybody would come in all at once and a shift any breakfast and you'd serve them and my job among aside from picking up the plates my job was to keep their coffee filled and I thought the best way to keep the to do good service was to be entertaining and I'd come up
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was to be entertaining and I'd come up to my table and by hey how is everybody how you doing yeah would you like some more coffee let me top that off how about you you've got like a millimeter left between the coffee and the top can i warm that up not go to the tables not work the tables and not be so entertaining and everything and one of my co-workers his name was Willie Willie was known for let's say not having a good work ethic he would just sort of give them coffee now and then if they really needed it but he just walked up half-asleep Billy brain and then he'd walk away no entertainment Willie would not entertain his tables and I'm thinking poor bastard I can't I feel sorry home for him because when it comes to tip time the guests that this hotel will come for a week and all the tipping would be at the end and I'd say poor guy at the end he's not going to get any tips he did not entertain his table and then at the end of the week we Busboys sometimes would compare our tips yes
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sometimes would compare our tips yes that's what we did so how does it sounds dumb when you talk about it now but we would we take out like our bills you know her singles and her stuff put them in a little pile out of bed and then we count them up and see who did the best thing week and Willie would beat me every single week every week Willie got more tips than I did by giving almost no service they were practically begging for coffee my people they couldn't get enough coffee for me I was like spraying coffee everywhere yeah coffee coffee coffee and it wasn't until I was old enough to become a customer in a restaurant that I learned and this is an important tip for you if you decide to become a waiter it turns out and that was quite surprised by this that people do not go out to dinner with their friends and loved ones so that they can spend that time talking to the server I didn't know that I thought well they're
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didn't know that I thought well they're going out to dinner obviously part of the reason is to see me so Willie was lazy but he was also the best the best waiter in the place because he didn't bother the people somebody says they love this story that worked in restaurants for 25 years you know the the the best server you'll ever have it in any kind of a restaurant situation is one where you you can't remember them if you leave a restaurant or in let's say it's the end of the that's the end of the meal and you you pick up the check and you say to yourself I don't remember where this you know who sent the cheque down I can't remember who the server is I can't remember I guess I never had to ask for anything I had a fork when I needed it my food came I don't even remember the server 30% tip I am if I can't remember you you're getting a 30% tip cuz that's nailing it anyway there's nothing to do with why you're here it's
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nothing to do with why you're here it's just a little little walking through the past all right number one for today you have to say because most of you you're interested in the the hearings today before the hearings make sure you read breitbart and specifically I tweeted it Joel Pollock's article in which he calls out what some of the important parts of the transcript are and here's the fun part he shows you what the Democrats don't tell you also from the transcript so it's here's what the Democrats said and it's in the transcript and here's the part they didn't tell you which kind of refutes the first part or it clarifies it so to see it in that format is somewhat brilliant and I think Joel is probably going to have some more of these and it's one of the most one of the most useful pieces of journalistic reporting you'll ever see I have to tell you when I read it as I was reading
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you when I read it as I was reading through it I could feel my opinion of the whole situation changing in real time because it was stuff I'd never heard and it's right from the transcripts right from the transcript and I hadn't heard it and it was important so I feel as though we're not being served by the media in general but joel has stepped up and done some incredible work for us all joel is also the first person who told me that PGE apparently had donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to governor Newsom in California and for his wife's I guess some charity she was working on and what's the biggest problem in California the biggest problem in California is pg a well that in the homeless I suppose and and we've got this enormous financial disincentive for the governor to get tough with PG&E if he needs to so that's something also I didn't hear anything from any other source so kudos
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anything from any other source so kudos to Joel all right let's see one of the things you keep hearing about Trump is that he's tweeting and he's tweeting policies instead of working through the normal thing and now you're hearing that he sends Rudy Giuliani Giuliani to do some stuff that maybe we have official official you know diplomats to do and if you've never worked in a big company you're saying to yourself whoa this is suspicious how could a leader send one group had to do the official people who it's their job to do it and simultaneously send out a completely different person or team to do the same job at the same time who does that what kind of disorganized oh that's right all of them if you've ever worked in a big company and I've done comics on this very thing it's actually fairly typical for the CEO to assign the same
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typical for the CEO to assign the same job to two different groups or people for different reasons sometimes sometimes it's miscommunication sometimes he figures one can't do it sometimes he thinks there's something that one team can do a little differently whatever reason it's the most common thing in the world to assign two completely different people and one of the things we learned from the transcript and I think Joel Pollock's writing told me this is that even the diplomats did not think that was unusual or wrong so I think it was Bill Taylor I may have the names wrong but I think he was the one who said yeah that's not even unusual to have you know dava's civilian go out and do a little work also for the president even if it's in their domain it wasn't that unusual so put these two things together three things if you count all the deep state Rush occlusion stuff there is something like a deep state we know from nikki Haley that members of
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we know from nikki Haley that members of the president's staff tried to thwart his his orders we know that we know that he's had to tweet and send rudy giuliani to do things that apparently he just can't get regular deep state career people to do and so if Trump didn't have twitter I don't think he could do anything because he has this ability to simply tell the public what's going to happen and just go completely past is all of it as diplomats and all of his deep State and everything he could go right to the people and then it makes the the deep state and the diplomats and those guys then they have to cooperate because the orders out and had they explained not doing their job to the public I mean you could you can game the system and say well I'm gonna get around to it and maybe we should have meeting first and just not do stuff but once the public knows you're not doing stuff it's a little bit more pressure so
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stuff it's a little bit more pressure so it seems to me that Trump is sending a rudy giuliani to do stuff and Trump tweeting are two of the ways he works around the fact that a normal president and especially an abnormal president can't get people to do stuff or at least I can't guess can't get him to do stuff his way now you may remember that I created what I call the the hoax funnel for the the old fine people hoax and the idea was that when you start debating people you can debunk every point but they just keep going down to smaller and smaller points until there are none left and then they reach the bottom and there and you've debunked everything they've said what do they do start at the top again like it never happened and you're seeing this with the Ukraine hoax so I just slapped together a little bit of a an order of how people surrender to me when I debate them on this topic on
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when I debate them on this topic on Twitter so it starts like this president Trump committed a crime with that phone call and that quid pro quo it's extortion so that was so when they say they committed a crime I usually say something like well Alan Dershowitz well you know arguably the best lawyer working says there's no crime and by the way and then of course people say yeah but he's he's in Trump's pocket to which I say but you know they even the top Democrats have stopped saying it's a crime because isn't you don't see Pelosi and Schiff saying it's a crime to you know correct a fact check me on that but it seems to me that they've they've moved off it's technically a crime and they moved on to it's inappropriate in an in an impeachable way so fact check me on that but I think that's true when she moved people off the idea that there's some crime on the books that was violated they don't go away and say oh I
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violated they don't go away and say oh I didn't know that there's no crime okay I guess there's no no reason to impeach they never do that somebody say that Dershowitz lost credibility because of the Epstein connection no he didn't if you want a good lawyer he want Dershowitz Dershowitz will never tell you that his job is to only to only be a lawyer for innocent people it's nobody's lawyer job to be a lawyer only for the innocent you need a system in which there are qualified people who will take take every case so Dershowitz actually just did good work on that that's not reducing his effectiveness anyway but when people get off of the there's a crime what did they go down to they go down to well it's not a crime per se but it's a quid pro quo and then I point out that Ukraine didn't know the aid was withheld which I wasn't sure about until just recently having seen enough of the doubts largely through Joel etc and so
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doubts largely through Joel etc and so you say well the you know the Ukraine did and you didn't even know Ukraine wasn't even aware plus there's a report that Trump was asked directly is this a quid pro quo and he said directly no pretty quid pro quo so suppose you say all right I looked at the transcript it's not there directly but indirectly he doesn't really need to say it okay sure he didn't say it's quid pro quo he didn't say it but it was implied and then I say well you know where else quid pro quo is employed every conversation between leaders you can't turn off quid pro quo because that's why leaders talk in the first place I got something you want you got something I want and again you don't have to say specifically what it is if if Netanyahu and Trump have a good meeting do they have to say I'm being nice to you so you'll give us
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being nice to you so you'll give us foreign aid be nice to you they'll have to say it because it's quid-pro-quo from them from the moment they set the meeting to the time they fly away there's nothing but quid pro quo so let's say I guess somebody to understand that they go okay every interaction this quid pro quo I was sure so it's not a crime and it doesn't it's not really relevant if it's a quid pro quo because that just would be every interaction so they usually back down to well if he knew it was okay why didn't he have bill barr do it why the president should never get involved especially if it's involves a competitor presidents should never get involved that's the problem the problem is the president got involved if you just let bill Barr to it that would be okay but the president got involved that makes it inappropriate to which I say if bill Barr could have done this on his own why would the president even need the phone call if that was gonna work if if Ukraine was gonna do
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gonna work if if Ukraine was gonna do everything that bill Barr asked him to do Trump didn't need to make the phone call obviously that wasn't gonna work what happens in any big company when he can't get when you can't get some other organization to do what you need you go to your mutual bosses you say can you talk to them boss the boss and then that will let the the employees the people who are lower ranked do their job because now they know both know that their bosses want this so that's all that happened the most normal thing in any big company is for the bosses to have to agree in order for the lower ranked people to do anything so and when I explain that away then then my opponent will go down the hoax funnel and they'll say yeah but if everything was okay why did they try to hide it by putting it on the secure server to which I say according to the transcripts and again I just learned this from reading Breitbart
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just learned this from reading Breitbart and according to the transcripts that was normal completely normal there was nothing about that was that was unusual so it's been reported that it's unusual but when the actual diplomat was interviewed whoever it was I forget the diplomat said no this normal ordinary business so and then I say if he was trying if you had been trying to hide it would there not have been fewer people in the room because that's how you hide things do you think Trump doesn't know how to minimize the number of people who hear something that they shouldn't hear yeah he probably didn't even know who was listening he probably assumed foreign powers were bugging him because that's probably pretty common and then he apparently they were asking for a public statement from Ukraine which clearly would have tied back to the administration so there was actually nothing that's President did the suggests that was supposed to be hidden in fact everything suggests there
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hidden in fact everything suggests there should have been public that's why he wanted more than I think he wanted it to be public which would have of course implied that that the US was behind the Ukraine so everybody would have figured that it does all right so then if you keep going down the the funnel we we've we've gotten rid of it's a crime turns out there's no crime quid pro quo turns out that's a normal business well he didn't actually say quid pro quo but even if you imagine it was implied that's every interaction among leaders he tried to hide it no he didn't he tried to make it public he tried to do the opposite of finding it and then any and of course he released the transcript and as begging people to read it so then there's a question of whether this little shadow government with Rudy Giuliani was was good or appropriate and it turns out it's normal now what Rudy did specifically I'm not judging I'm just saying they have it having a second
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just saying they have it having a second you know entity that's not not part of the normal process do this stuff kind of normal and then I find that my debaters have gone all the way down the hoax from the really bad stuff like it's illegal bow-bow and they get down to abuse of power to which the answer is isn't it a beaut the power to get what the citizens want in other words I wanted to know if if the Biden's have any problems in Ukraine I'm sure you wanted to know if if the voters want to know and then your president goes out and gets it for you and it uses his power to do it is that an abuse of power or is that why we elected him didn't we elect him to use his power to get us things that we want so he went out and he used his power to at least try to get us information that we the voters would like to know I mean Biden is at the top of the polls don't
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Biden is at the top of the polls don't you want to know a few cranes got some leverage on him of course you do even the people who support him are probably kind of thinking in the back of their mind it'd be awfully nice if we knew he was clean and probably is and by the way well I mean let me say this for the record I don't have any information that would say that Joe Biden is dirty we have plenty of information to know that just son was swampy with Purisima but not illegal so then then I was debating with somebody and got him all the way to the bottom of the hoax funnel and the last thing he started to say was that Trump was violating a norm a norm to which I said that's why he was elected violating norms that's not a bug that's a feature that's a feature he was elected to violate norms he wasn't
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elected to violate norms he wasn't elected to violate laws if that happens people got a problem even his supporters are going to have a problem but if he violates a norm in the service of getting voters information that they want as much as he does violate those norms all day long so and then of course you also have to ask who's that who are the victims and sometimes you'll get this argument you'll get that the president compromised foreign relations to which I say what well it would be an example of something that went wrong or will go wrong or should go wrong or could go wrong what exactly goes wrong when he is violated I don't know he's compromised or four can you give me an example can you tell me what it cost can you tell me what new risk I can't see anything I don't see anything that happened in fact the the country that was supposed to be
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the the country that was supposed to be the victim of all this they don't they didn't know what was happening the victim the Ukraine didn't know that their Aid was being withheld and by the way we also learned that the javelin rockets which were the important things because they're the ones that kill the the Russian tanks and if you don't have tanks it's kind of hard to hold territory I'm no military mind but it seems to me that if you can stop Russian tanks you're pretty much have stopped the invasion if you don't have a tank you're not going to hold territory so well and you're not gonna be able to take territory so well so the javelins pretty much take the Russian tank force and end of the game which probably ends their ability to take over Ukraine at least in any way that we know about so that already happened and that wasn't even being withheld so here's where you get to the bottom of the the hoax well
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get to the bottom of the the hoax well once I've debunked its you know it's against the law quid pro quo it's normal everything's normal he wasn't trying to hide it he was trying to make it public and Senator and you get to the bottom and then I then I try to turn around and I turn it around like this and I say this if the President had not asked for that information in other words if he had not asked what's the deal with Biden and and in Hunter Biden what's their deal and do they have any problems over there in Ukraine that would cause any influence should he become elected if President Trump had not asked for that investigation he should be impeached because that's not even doing your job if you think that the guy who is polling to be the next president of the United States as a as an obvious public connection to Ukraine and one that the entire public would like to know about you better look into it if you don't I
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you better look into it if you don't I would say you're not protecting the country maybe you should be impeached for that all right so that's the bottom of the hoax the hopes thing I just tweeted out sixty minutes interview from I don't know how many years ago in which they actually talked to they hunted down the guy in China who's the top fentanyl dealer in China no not one of the nine who just got arrested and sentenced to life but there's some guy and his son we have their pictures we know that where they are and 60-minutes found him on the street actually found him at a supermarket and interviewed him the top fentanyl dealer in China so obviously China the government can find this guy China the government could arrest him China the government could stop him tomorrow he's the top dealer over there but they haven't because we hear about it if they ever stop that guy that would be headline news so they haven't so we can conclude that China
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haven't so we can conclude that China has no interest in stopping the fentanyl business coming this way and therefore there is no chance that we the United States should make a any kind of a trade deal with them that could help them in any way so yeah you know it's weird that somebody said somebody was jokingly and I have to throw in the jokingly this is not serious said I should take Han a contract on them and are you wondering why that's not already a thing are you surprised that nobody is using cryptocurrency to order hits and people in other countries I don't want to suggest it cuz I'll probably be the first one to get hit but makes you wonder why it's not a thing so news out of Iran is that their economy is crumbling and they got real problems because they're not being able to sell their oil apparently there are oil experts is there oil exports you know are
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there oil exports you know are one-twentieth 5% of what they used to be 5% which means Iran is pretty much in trouble so I don't know how Iran ends because they're you know they're cranking up there I guess they're refining the nuclear fuel and they're trying to suggest that you know they're getting all tough like that but it feels as though it feels as though it's sort of our race sort of a time race I think we have to keep the pressure on until the Ayatollah dies of natural causes because he's in his 80s right the same that might be five years it could be eight years whatever but I think you just need a different leader Oh somebody's saying that ordering a hit by Krypto was what took down the Silk Road I don't know about that I don't know
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I don't know about that I don't know anything about that story let me alright so Iran has had them in a direction that looks like something's got to give so we don't know what that will be but we'll see now so another news so one of my followers Terry kinder I don't know if I'm pronouncing right kinder or kinder at tea kinder had this great thoughts that I haven't seen anywhere yes i retweeted it was that essentially that the Democrats have locked themselves into a trap and it goes like this I I hope I'm saying it right because it was so clever and so right in front of you that that I missed it but it goes like this if Joe Biden
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it but it goes like this if Joe Biden suddenly gets much less support drops in the polls it's gonna look like it was because of Ukraine right so if Joe Biden drops in the polls people will say oh the Ukraine thing got him and if that's true it will also be a validation of Trump looking into it so if Biden goes down it looks like Trump was right all along that the Ukraine thing was important and it needed to be looked into because you would see that the public would be responding to it as important now it could be that the public is just changing their mind for other reasons but the way it would be interpreted interpreted not truth but the way it would be interpreted is that Ukraine took Biden down now if they let Biden go down it makes the president locked for re-election because the impeachment thing just falls apart and there's nothing left and and he would
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there's nothing left and and he would have taken a button but what if Biden stays in if he stays in then president Trump gets to run against the weakest candidate ever fielded for the presidency and he wins reelection in in in a stroll so the Democrats have created two situations with Ukraine I think yeah I'd love to tell you it's for DHS and the president had this all figured out and it's nothing like that it was just chance that we got here but they only have two two ways to lose and no way to win either Biden goes away which makes the president right to take some Pietschmann off the table and everybody says yeah it looks like we should have looked into this Biden thing everybody cared or he stays in the race and he doesn't have a chance I don't think there's anybody in the race who thinks he has a chance I said this under Dave Rubens show yesterday I did Dave Rubens
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Rubens the Dave Rubin report a show and so that you'll see that pretty soon I'll tweet it around when it plays but I was I was saying that I had never met a Biden supporter and and Dave laughed because it's one of those things that the first time you hear it it makes you laugh because you hadn't realized it yet and why you haven't realized as how could he be the top polling candidate in the whole country and I live and I live in California and I've never met one person who supports him how about this have you ever seen anybody support Biden a pundit on television who wasn't working for the campaign have you ever seen it no you haven't even seen anybody on CNN supporting Biden unless they worked for the campaign now there are people who have not said bad things about him but the only people you've ever seen support
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the only people you've ever seen support him are his campaign and his wife that's it
it nobody else and when you realize that you have to ask yourself is it are the polls completely fake what's happening is it only the people who are not paying attention my theory is that the his support comes entirely from people who haven't seen him lately because if you see them lately you know there's something wrong so I think people have a memory of him that's all positive because the Obama you're my I'm seeing the super it's just going crazy right now so I must have said something you like but just think about it start asking this question around yes ask if you can find any Obama support I'm sorry any Biden support what are the odds I would never never find one I yeah i think i think i know supporters of every time speaking of that by the way i did
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time speaking of that by the way i did make contact with the tulsi gabbard campaign and i told you i'd been contacted before but they followed up and we're talking about you know national date to bring her on as a guest
so it looks like tulsi gabbard will be the first sort of presidential candidate to have on my little periscope here my influential little periscope I'll let you know when that's going to happen all right those were the topics I was playing so I don't have a date for when I'll talk to Tulsi Gabbard but will we're working that out so I gave them some possibilities if you're not reading the
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possibilities if you're not reading the comments you missing something so funny horrible comments I'm sorry that was too funny so uh whoever said something that made me laugh you know who you are and that was very funny I was totally everybody inappropriate which is what made it funny oh wow that's funny the chef is still claiming he doesn't know that whistle blowers that can't be true he can't be claiming that so today is my last day in LA and go talk to dennis prager I talked to Adam Carolla yesterday dr. Drew came in right after I was done with Adam Carolla's I get to talk to him and let me run something past you so you saw the idea I guess Texas is already doing it maybe California's considering it which is using some federal or state land to
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is using some federal or state land to move their homeless to so that at least that are not you know pooping on sidewalks and interacting with people who who would find some danger in that and uh when I heard that I thought that is borderline great idea because these are people who don't want to live indoors for whatever reason they're already in tents wouldn't they rather be a tent in a forest or in a place that's meant for it versus a tent on the sidewalk where you don't have you know facilities and stuff so to be a sound like Oh brilliant idea brilliant idea we'll just move those homeless people to a place where it's basically camping and the weather is good all the time or at least could not and their lives would be much better and everybody wins right and I ran that by dr. Drew and he brought me back to reality now do you know what's wrong with the plan is it obvious to you because it I thought it was a good plan
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because it I thought it was a good plan and then exactly 30 seconds of hearing dr. Drew tell me why it wasn't changed my mind here's the problem the problem is mental illness and drug use in the overlap mentally ill people don't take logical offers so what I was thinking is hey guy in the street wouldn't you rather be in this nice wooded area you could have same amount of drugs everything the same you just have a nicer tent and a nicer place wouldn't you like that but that meant that assumes that you're talking to rational people who can make rational decisions and there's nothing like that so unless you could force them to move and you can't apparently apparently a California you just can't do that there's no way to make that work it wouldn't matter how much better their life was camping they just wouldn't want to do it because they have mental illness and drug addiction so every time
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illness and drug addiction so every time I think I've got an answer dr. drew reminds me that I'm forgetting the the primary thing which is it's not a homeless problem that that should be your mantra it's not a homeless problem just run that loop every time you hear the story it's not a homeless problem it's a drug a mental illness problem and if we don't treat that first which probably requires force I can't imagine any other way it would work we probably need laws that would allow law enforcement or the medical community to institutionalize people who can't make decisions for themselves so I don't I don't see it happening because I don't see the law allowing that anytime soon maybe I'm seeing more and more the word zombie it's like in a zombie apocalypse and having seen my own stepson when when he was alive under the influence of whatever the opioids were
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influence of whatever the opioids were that were in his body I can confirm that it's like a zombie apocalypse that somebody with a certain amount of opioids in them there's a body there and the body is moving and it's doing things but there's no there's nobody home you know whatever's happening in their heads is not even remotely like it's not like a junk a drunk person it's not like being stoned it's not like being stupid it's not like being crazy it's like there's just nobody there but the body works and there was one point I thought I was gonna have to beat the out of my own steps on which would have been not the easiest thing to do because he was bigger than me but but I could have gotten it done if I needed to because one day he was he was under the influence and his body was big and he was threatening some people who were not intentionally but in his lack of control
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intentionally but in his lack of control he was in a threatening situation and it was up to me to stop it now fortunately I guess I'm really good at threatening because it didn't come - didn't come to a physical altercation but it was right on the edge and it was it was right on the edge where I had to take him down but I but I didn't have to in the end
and so that's what you're dealing with you're dealing with a zombie apocalypse in which people who used to be normal and human are combined with some kind of a drug and the combination of the drug plus the person creates another creature sort of a zombie creature now we hope this summer can be recovered and become once again fully human but at the moment it is very much like a zombie apocalypse and it's growing so it's sort of scary all right um kind of looks like an open coffin behind me it sort of does
[42:17]
behind me it sort of does I didn't want to tell you how I'm a vampire all right I got stuff to do today I'm gonna go do that stuff let's all watch the I might miss some of the hearings but I'll catch the good stuff and I'll talk to you later