Episode 699 Scott Adams: The End of “News”, Healthcare Math Puzzle, Kurds of Course and More

Date: 2019-10-20 | Duration: 49:02

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My new book LOSERTHINK goes on sale 11/5. Pre-order: https://bit.ly/2NRammu Wording things to promote your agenda and beliefs “Staunch allies” versus “common interests for a time” Did we make any future promises to the Kurds? Kamala stumped by question: what laws did Rudi break? Claims of fact for things without evidence Is guilt by association becoming a legal standard? CNN opinion article says the wall is working, Mexico is paying A “fact” in question: there’s no way we can afford healthcare for all Doral location for G-7 abandoned

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buh-buh-buh-buh-buh hey Georgeann hey everybody Cuffy 20/20 you're always quick good see you Kevin good morning oh well you know what time it is check your wrist oh yeah it's coffee o clock it's time for coffee it was Scott Adams and the famous simultaneous cent world renowned if you have not enjoyed the simultaneous up what do you been doing with your life besides wasting it but we're gonna fix that right now because you participate in the simultaneous sip with very little in the way of preparation all he is a copper monitor glasses snifter Stein Calais tanker thermos flask canteen Grail goblet fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that dopamine the end of the day the thing that makes everything better

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everything better the simultaneous imp go Oh shivers shiver my Timbers some stuff that's happened somebody sent me a message and I cannot verify that this is accurate but the general concept is accurate so I'm going to tell you this and just keep it as a general concept so I'm informed and pleased fact check this that there is something called a Bellefonte nuclear power plant that was supposed to be built in northern Alabama but they halted construction some years ago so they started to build a nuclear power plant and then they halted construction and somebody on LinkedIn suggested that that would be a good place to put a generation 4 nuclear plant

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generation 4 nuclear plant something like terraPower bill gates's company that he invests in maybe that would be a good place for them now in general a place where a new regular standard nuclear power plant already exists or used to exist are the perfect places to put a generation for more of a test site you know might take a while to refine that but I don't see a problem with finding locations it feels like it's the most solvable problem in the world and my understanding is that rick perry's energy department has actually done a lot to boost nuclear and to try to make it easier to get licenses so they're actually doing a lot behind the scenes it's it doesn't get a lot of attention but you might see nuclear power plants get approved more easily if

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power plants get approved more easily if there's some success and getting rid of the red tape alright so there's a interesting video clip going around this shows a split screen and it shows some politicians such as Nancy Pelosi making some statements relative to the headlines and then showing that the news organizations just parrot the language so that you can see that the Democrats and at least some news organizations are working together it's obvious that they're getting the same memos they have the same talking points etc now I used to think well that's that doesn't mean much it just means that they have the same opinions and if somebody says something that's catchy and you have the same opinion there's somebody who says something catchy you just started using that language because somebody agrees

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that language because somebody agrees with me and the way the way they worded that is pretty good so I'll just I'll use that too that's what I used to think but now it's getting a little bit more that it's coordinated meaning that whether or not there's an actual conversation about it you can see that the news organizations adopt the language of politicians and they ignore language of less preferred politicians let me give you an example of how language the actual words you choose can change reality all right so here's an article in reason so a reason go to reason.com to see them reason is sort of a libertarian free thinking neither left nor right or a good place where they're trying pretty hard to stick to facts and wreaths so you would expect in a

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wreaths so you would expect in a publication called reason that you would get as close as you could get to some kind of an unbiased you know points of view so there's an article in here now I guess went in on October 14th by sheikah Dalmia and here's what it says Kurds have been staunch allies in America's struggle against Isis Kurds have been staunch allies in America's struggle against
Isis first of all is that a true statement yeah that's a true statement the Kurds have been staunch allies in America's struggle against Isis so it's completely true but here's another way you could say the same thing somebody else on Twitter said this how come most people

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Twitter said this how come most people who are of the opinion that somehow the u.s. adopted the Kurds not just partner with them for a time against a common enemy both statements stick to the facts you know what is in the question form what is a statement form but they're opposites they both use the same observed facts but they're pretty close to opposites that's a scary thing isn't it because the way you word it can be completely accurate and also opposite of reality at the same time so here's here's my take on it whether you call the Kurds our staunch allies that have helped America in its struggle as if it's America's battle with Isis and not the Kurds a shared battle is it not true that the Kurds had a bigger problem with Isis than we did because neighbors if Isis

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if Isis lived in your town would you be more or less concerned about them than if they were on the other side of the world it seems to me that America helped the Kurds with their struggle against Isis it just happened to be something that was good for us too so it's just shocking that something called a reason could have an opening sentence that the Kurds have been helping America in its struggle against Isis I'm pretty sure everybody was against Isis except Isis indeed the entire world has a struggle against Isis because Isis wants to attack the entire world so I'm pretty sure that there was a shared goal there and here's my question alright here's my question about the whole curd

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here's my question about the whole curd Turkey Syria situation who can tell me or what News has reported what we efficiently meaning the United States or anybody acting as as a proxy for the government so that could include a general you know somebody in the military who was operating over there what official promises has the United States ever made to the Kurds in terms of long-term alliance or protection has anybody ever reported that because it would make a big difference to me if let's say there was a general who said look curds you know we're gonna work together with us and we promise you on the honor of the united states that if you help us with this we'll we'll stay here forever or we'll protect you or we'll do this is that whatever it is what was it because if we didn't promise them anything they just made an

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them anything they just made an assumption that because we helped them in one situation that we were there for them for all future situations that would feel different than if we had made them a direct promise and then changed our mind because a lot of people were talking about the honor of America and our credibility but that doesn't that matter what we promised is there a written agreement was there a verbal agreement I I would I would say we should honor a verbal agreement if there's some Evan sure thing was made so without that reporting how can you have a good opinion about whether we're selling out the curse if you have a strong opinion about for selling them out or we're just pursuing our national self-interest and they shouldn't surprise them at all if you have a strong opinion on that you shouldn't because there's a piece of information missing nobody ever told you

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information missing nobody ever told you what we promised them or who it was that made the promise have you ever seen that reporting I haven't so I would say if you have a strong opinion that we should honor our promise but you don't know if we ever made a promise maybe dial back your certainty of your opinion so Coble Harris was talking to CNN's Anderson Cooper and there's a video clip going around semi virally in which Anderson Cooper asked her what laws Rudy Giuliani had broken specifically because common law mentioned the many laws that he's broken so Anderson Cooper says what laws are you talking about specifically and camel Harris responded and I quote well I I I don't know this is after she had stated

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don't know this is after she had stated as fact that Rudy Giuliani had broken a bunch of laws which laws I don't know now she did go on to add some context that turned breaking laws into something more like behavior I wish had to happen but not exactly a broken laws so we've reached a point where the Democrats are making claims of fact that are so wildly not in evidence that is there anything you can't say anymore I think we've reached the point where you could literally say anything about anyone I mean you know half of the news is somebody being accused of being a pedophile because they knew a guy who was one and it seems like guilt by association is the new standard of Justice here so there's a new report that really Rudy Giuliani made half a

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that really Rudy Giuliani made half a million dollars in fees from some of Ukrainian guy who got arrested because their company is in trouble for some reason now that's reported as if that's a problem for Rudy Giuliani like that means that he's somehow broken law but there's nothing like that in evidence the only evidence is that he once got paid or at least once got paid by somebody who broke a law that describes just about half of the lawyers in the United States know probably 75% don't 75% of all lawyers at some point in their career take money from somebody who committed terrible crimes because half of them are defending people who were guilty and they're taking money for doing that and then at least half of the are dealing with corporations and enrich clients who probably also or breaking a few laws they just haven't been caught

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few laws they just haven't been caught so lawyers taking money from people who are criminals is normal it's the most normal thing in our system but somehow it's turned into a crime because it's Rudy and its political seasons all that I'm not saying that or anybody else in the world has never committed a crime I'm just saying that if guilt by association is the new standard we're in bad shape because how many times have you seem totally accused of something just because they spend time with somebody yeah Epstein is the perfect example well here's an example for you so you can you can add this to your list I once had a neighbor that you know I over to the house we spent time with him you know my ex-wife and I were friends turns out he was the biggest pedophile in my town and he went to jail for 15 years but for several years he

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for 15 years but for several years he was my neighbor he would come over to parties we'd hang out with him I'd see him on the street and you know we even had family connections etc he just happened to be the biggest pedophile in the town I didn't know that I didn't know that at the time and his son was one of my you know one of the guys I hung out with a lot played ping-pong with him he was a teenager but he was really good at ping-pong and it was hard for me to find anybody that good so I would play you know his son all the time in ping-pong and that didn't turn me into a pedophile turns out you can associate with people who themselves have committed crimes without actually acquiring their crime doesn't work like that all right
sure let me talk about something else let's talk about the wall I CNN has an

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let's talk about the wall I CNN has an article an opinion article and and this is the important part it's on CNN all right I'm just looking at your comment you're commenting on exactly what I'm going to talk about so CNN it has an opinion article that says the wall is working and Mexico's paying for it and
do you know why CNN as an opinion article that says the wall is working and Mexico is paying for it it's because the wall is working in Mexico is paying for it now the way they're paying for it is by they have 27,000 Mexican troops amassed at their own southern border to keep the caravans from coming across Mexico which has the effect of keeping them from getting to the United States so indeed Mexico is spending a tremendous amount of money to protect their border which has the effect of protecting our border and we asked them to do it so I think CNN is

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asked them to do it so I think CNN is accurately stating that the the way they put it is some say Mexico already built Trump's wall but they're not really debunking it which is the important thing here they're not saying some say Mexico is paying for the wall but we say that's not true that parts missing they just sort of say looks like Mexico is paying for the wall some say and they let that stand as a you know fact in evidence but apparently the actual wall is also being built and they're putting it in the places that it matters most so some people are going to say ha ha ha mr. president you only built I know 5 percent or 10 percent of that wall you promised us well here's the thing how much benefit do you get from the first 5 or 10 percent depends where you put it right if we put the first five or ten percent of the wall in the places that we know with

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wall in the places that we know with complete certainty it's needed the most does 10 percent of a wall only help you ten percent of you know reduce ten percent of the e problem now it's probably a lot more probably if you get the most important crossing points maybe you get half of it you know maybe ten percent of a wall gets you a 50 percent of reduction in in crossing now I'm not claiming that as the fact I'm saying that if we're working on the most important places first we should get a lot of bang for the buck and I would say it's objectively true that Trump kept his promise on the border wall number one by never giving up on it Trump never gave up on the wall he tried machine every door every legal challenge every every budget trick and some of them seem to be working so he's actually building wall and it's now

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actually building wall and it's now passed into the realm of fact because here's a little trick for you I write about this in my book in my book loser think which is available for pre-order and you really should get it before they're also allowed well we're not going to sell them all we'll make more the point is people are already talking about this talk about a book that's in the perfect time have you noticed that almost everybody is talking about people being in news silence and entrapped in their own interpretation and this is the only book that teaches you how to get out about that loser think so get your copy and you will learn how to get yourself out of your bubble if you read one you had to get other people out of their bubble if they're in one so here's one of the tricks in the book if a fact is reported the same on the left leaning news and the right leading news it's

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news and the right leading news it's probably a fact if something is reported as a fact as you know only one side we've left or only the right and I like to use CNN and Fox News as my two standards you could use you know Breitbart and MSNBC it's going to look similar for this point if they both agree on the fact it's probably a fact so now cNN has you ran this opinion pieces yeah it looks like this wall is working immigration or illegal process down Mexico is paying a lot to help us protect the border looks like Trump's winning I would call that a fact because that's now being reported essentially the same on Fox seeing it that's the fact name some things that are reported on only one network as fact and the other one says it's not well how about Russia collusion Russia collusion is reported or was report is

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collusion is reported or was report is basically fact on the Left I reported as an odd effect on the right we waited we waited we waited Mahler weighed in and and because and the rule was holding here so only one side reported it as fact and it wasn't a fact sure enough so you can use that rule to predict the future if you see only half of the country half of the news reporting it as fact probably it's not going to be a fad in the long run that's a good standard for predicting the future all right let's talk about I'm trying to figure out how to make this interesting as the health care cost question and the part I'm not trying to solve health care here it's too big a topic I'm gonna drill down on one fact that if we all understood it would change how you think about what we should do

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should do all right just one fact and here's here's the fact or the fact in question it's not a fact it's a fact of the question that there's no way that we can afford to cover everybody with health insurance does that sound right does it sound to you you know just common sense do the sniff test that we can't afford it because it will cost trillions of dollars extra and that there's not enough money even if you tax rich people through the roof you have enough money so most of you consume on I would say the right leaning media that's a fair guess for most of the audience here on this periscope most of you are consuming right leaning media and you would considered a fact because the right leaning media tells you this all the time it's the fact that covering everyone would be too expensive there's just no

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would be too expensive there's just no way anybody can make the math work right that's what the write says what does the left say well they kind of say thank you even seeing it asked you know Warren and Sanders how the hell are you gonna pay for this and they don't get good answers let me drill down a little bit here so I think Warren and Bernie bol say that their health can healthcare plans which would cover everybody would know deductibles would cost about three point five trillion dollars a year so over over ten years let's say thirty five trillion dollars you've heard that number before right about three point five trillion a year thirty five trillion over ten years obviously we can that's what you've heard right do you know what we currently pay for healthcare in the United States we currently play pay three point five

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currently play pay three point five trillion a year and over ten years we currently if nothing changes we'll pay thirty five trillion dollars a year so let me break that down for you our current costs are three point five trillion in the Year Bernie and Elizabeth Warren piche buys into his plan are saying if everybody's covered it'll cost you three point five trillion a year which is true is it true that the the right-leaning publications to say we can't afford to pay three point five trillion a year or is it true we're already well google it for yourself we're already paying that so is it true when Bernie says I can get you universal healthcare costs at basically the same price as we're already paying collectively if you can't everybody paying everything is that true let's

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paying everything is that true let's drill down so I'd said to yesterday that I remembered something like 18 percent of the public didn't health care insurance I looked at that again and I think partly because of the strong economy maybe Obamacare had something to do with this the current updated number of Americans who do not have health care is closer to nine percent so nine percent of Americans do not have health care so Bernie is saying that to cover the extra nine percent you can basically get you there for free is that reasonable how do you cover that extra nine percent for free where does that money come from where's it go well let's drill down just a little bit how much of the nine percent who don't have health care insurance keep in mind that they do have health care meaning

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that they do have health care meaning that if they have a serious problem such as a heart attack or cancer they get rent and the hasa i think the hospital pays for it because they don't have insurance and they can't afford it so of the nine percent that's not nine percent who don't have any health care that's nine percent which is largely already being paid by the system so the three point five trillion already includes paying most of the big health care the hospital stuff for the people who don't have insurance so that nine percent isn't real if you shrunk it down for the amount that we're already paying they just don't have health care insurance but they do get the health care and nine percent is probably closer to five percent so could we reduce overall health care expenses by five percent if we had the government doing the negotiating if we will remove some

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the negotiating if we will remove some market constraints for free market you know stuff if we could get our pharmaceuticals from Canada if we could allow people to compete against across the lines I don't know if that's the thing but the point is if you have a three point five trillion dollar budget for healthcare you can always find five percent savings how often can you find a five percent savings in something that costs three point five trillion dollars 100% of the time probably every time all you'd have to do is say hey everybody we're gonna cut your country by five percent the the healthcare field is so profitable that most entities could take a five percent haircut and they'd still be wildly profitable now I'm not saying that any of this is practical alright so there are real practical problems because if let's say the help the hospital is already footing the bill for

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hospital is already footing the bill for people who don't have insurance if suddenly there's universal insurance what are you gonna do with the hospital that used to be paying part of that bill do they just get to keep it and it's just profit or do they then lower their costs and everybody wins because they don't have to pay for the uninsured anymore so they can lower their total costs to all the other people who who have insurance maybe here's my take on it given current numbers that I understand and this might blow your mind but the people we're talking about we can afford universal coverage appear to be the same ones now the actual method or system to get there has lots of problems because if you have you know government only insurance what does that do to competitiveness and innovation and you know does this stifle innovation you know there are all kinds of problems that have to be worked out but the general proposition that that we don't

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general proposition that that we don't have the trillions of dollars needed to cover that extra five percent that would get everybody covered seems to not pass the smell test does it to you does it does it pass the sniff test that we can't find a 5% savings and all that healthcare if the government just said look the only way to get there to cover for everybody is we're gonna have to find some way to take 5% of the expenses you know think we could do that that actually feels like one of the easiest things anybody ever did my my health care provider is Kaiser Permanente I always say good things about them because they are really leaders and trying to cross down I do the vast majority of my medical stuff I do by email I just send an email to my doctor the assistants oh yeah doctor says there's a prescription waiting for you at the pharmacy or I

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waiting for you at the pharmacy or I could just have them mailed to me so how much cheaper is that than going to a doctor so imagine you said to let me throw out another idea for you suppose you said to the people who don't have health care there you could have health care the government will pay for it that's just I'm just brainstorming here don't get too caught up on whether this is a good idea or a bad idea suppose we said to the people don't have health care you can you can be covered entirely but there's one trade-offs you have to give up all of your medical privacy not with your name attached will will separate your name from it but all of your medical information including anything we can glean from your lifestyle will be put in a big database so that we can look at lots of people's treatments and lifestyle and outcome and figure out how to lower costs for everybody so if for example you you had

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everybody so if for example you you had no no medical privacy but we are covering the names so you're not giving up your name that's hidden but your your data about your health outcomes is put it in a big database and then we look at it and say hello everybody who eats a certain food they have this gene maybe we take it oh let me go further hello let me fix this idea totally ready we stay to the nine percent who are uninsured we'll give you free health care the government will pay for it but here's the trade-offs you have to give us your DNA and your health outcomes from that day on we'll just connect to your database and we'll we'll know what's happening but we won't know you by name we'll just we'll know your DNA we'll know the health outcomes if you knew everybody's DNA could you lower health expenses for that one person the person whose DNA and lifestyle you now

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person whose DNA and lifestyle you now could you lower just their healthcare costs by 5% bet you could I'll bet you could because if you knew their DNA you would know what they're likely to have a problem with and what they're likely not to and then you would gear their lifestyle changes to accommodate what risks they have individually now somebody asked me about illegals so everything I'm talking about so far applies to legal residents all right as soon as you throw in immigration the system falls apart because you can't allow unlimited immigration and also free health care those two things can't live together you have to pick one you can have that it's been great but you can't give them all free health care those those can't live in the same country somebody says your DNA automatically identifies you by name yes that's why I'm saying that you are giving up your

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I'm saying that you are giving up your privacy because in theory some days somebody could check your DNA and let's say you get arrest in it or go to the I don't know they check your DNA and if they had access to this database then they could find out all of your other health and comes with outcomes so it is physically possible that somebody could find out who you are and find out your medical history so that's why I say that these people would be giving up their privacy in theory nobody would ever see that information but you can't guarantee that nobody can ever hack a database nobody can ever figure out your name from your DNA you can't guarantee that so that would be the deal give up your privacy and that and giving up that pride for for DNA only and for your health comes only should be enough the health care costs for everybody enough that you would save enough money to cover everybody boom

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everybody boom alright can somebody tell me where does the 5% come from the fire the fact that if you had enough people it doesn't have to be the whole population but if you had enough people whose DNA you knew and the outcomes and lifestyle and everything you would have information and the information alone would lower health care costs because you would know to treat people in advance of their cancer you would know to give somebody a certain kind of preventive lifestyle recommendation etc so the 5% which has come from information better information all right if somebody has a problem with anything I said put it in the comments because I'm really interested for those of you who are new to my periscopes let me give you some context I often say things with confidence as just part of the presentation where they don't actually knowing what I'm talking about so if if you think that's happening

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so if if you think that's happening right now you might be right incentives are all wrong extra increases overhead for processing right group is not representative many are mentally ill that's the good point so somebody saying that the people who don't healthcare might be expensive ones because they might have mental conditions I think the mental health issue has to be treated as almost a separate issue from health care it's obviously it is healthcare but it feels like we own a wall that often say mental health is something we gotta we gotta fix
he says we also need to know their gut the I think they're talking about the

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the I think they're talking about the bacteria and your body that's a good point we probably should know about it somebody's bacterial situation do they have the right bacteria or the wrong bacteria don't assume it's a static group I don't costs are not transparent until after service yeah so if we simply made all costs more transparent people would shop for bargains and that would probably save you 5% somebody says drug costs are increasing far faster than 5% yeah so how air costs in general are going up more than 5% a year historically so under the situation where health care costs go up 5% a year no matter what do you still believe that if you're only adding 5% to the cost of the system to

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adding 5% to the cost of the system to cover everybody do you think we can't afford that it doesn't make sense that it would only take 5% for experts to cover everybody costs go up 5% every year anyway and people still keep their insurance Oh
somebody says will my tax be increased that's all I need to know that's not all you need to know you need to know will your taxes go up and by how much but you also need to know will your health care costs for you personally go up or down and by how much all right one of the lessons in loser think is you have to you have to include the costs and the benefits or else you haven't done an analysis if the only thing you've done is look at the costs that anything you also have to look at the savings and the benefits

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looking at all your comments most of them seem to be supportive of what I've said I don't know if I've seen anything yet
yet that seems to be contrary to what I've said so let me ask you this this question given the way I just explained it 9% don't have insurance but we're already paying a lot of that so maybe it's only 5% everybody would have to absorb to pay for all the rest of the people who don't have insurance and we could probably squeeze 5% out of the system just by having better transparency on prices and more ability to buy cheap things and shop around and stuff do any of you think we could not achieve universal health care with something that looks close to a market system in other words you wouldn't have to be super socialist to get there because it would cost about the same and end up maybe maybe even the outcome but it'd be similar somebody

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outcome but it'd be similar somebody just says stop somebody says I would prefer private Medicare for all I don't know what that means somebody says my girlfriend is pretty hot you're correct and that is the best comment anybody's made about health care today thank you she keeps me young all right she needs to work harder to keep me on I'm still getting older
looking at your comments because I'm very interested to see if I've said something incredibly stupid but I don't see anybody disagreeing so just think about what just happened just let me back up and just raise any of the weeds for a moment all right we're all talking about the details of health care just come with me for a moment and just just rise up above the weeds and look at just for a moment because it's fun look at the big picture of what just happened in the last few

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of what just happened in the last few minutes most of you came to this periscope saying well there's no way you could cover everybody with health care there's not enough money in the integra planet right didn't most of you come to this periscope believing that wasn't enough money on the planet to give everybody healthcare and did I not just convince you with numbers you can Google yourself I mean just go to Google you can find out everything I just said did I not just explain to you that you're probably being lied to that there's we almost certainly could get there and it probably wouldn't cost more than it cost now now if you did it wrong then you've done it wrong but in terms of how much money there is in the system I think we could get there at the same cost I'm not seeing anybody disagree with me and I there's sort of blowing my mind I really expected a lot of disagreement did I

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expected a lot of disagreement did I just change 2,000 people's minds because I that isn't a thing that can happen I don't see did something big just happened here it feels like something important just happened do you see it is it just me because I feel like I just convinced 2,000 people who were positive that health care couldn't be accomplished you get any kind of universal coverage I feel like 2,000 people just said okay I see it now you could do that hmm somebody says I still think that I not be surprised if there are plenty of people who did not change their mind but what I'm not seeing is an objection with my point
[Music] huh yeah there are some people saying

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huh yeah there are some people saying there's really not enough money if the government is wrong it gives the government ruins everything and that's not a bad opinion you know it certainly makes sense and that would support a Buddha judges view so Buddha judge has the you that you don't want to get rid of the private insurance because some people just prefer it but you can have at the same time a public option and then they would be competing a little bit and as the private insurance company you know Spurs innovation those innovations accrue to the benefit of people who get the public option well somebody says you are so wrong so the people who say that I just ignore as useless if you would like to be completely useless just tell me I'm completely wrong and don't give me a reason but but at least I'll just own it I think I would be hey I'm gonna make a comment it could be useful or it could be completely useless which will I do

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be completely useless which will I do okay okay I think I'll be useless Scott you are totally wrong period send completely useless you didn't do anything today to make the world a better place but if he gave me a reason even if it was a bad reason or anything it would add to the conversation so give me a reason you can do it alright I got for today I miss any big topics they care about but the government doesn't need to run it yeah I mean even Peabody judges says the government doesn't need to run health care somebody says object your point but I like it Wow thoughts on Iran somebody asked me well there's nothing new happening in Iran is there

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nothing new happening in Iran is there it seems to me that Iran is sort of a wait-and-see I don't the thing I don't understand about Iran is how can they afford all this supporting of other militias and supporting of war in Yemen and Hezbollah supporting I don't know whatever they're doing in Syria and Iraq how in the world is Iran paying for all this stuff I would think by now they couldn't do anything so my guess is that we're in a temporary situation in which Iran is still acting as if they have money while they're effectively Ana money so I think what you would see with Iran is that the sanctions will have no effect no effect no effect no effect no effect no effect no act completely effective so I think the sanctions are completely ineffective until the very moment they're completely effective so you

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they're completely effective so you can't really judge because nothing's happening yet doesn't tell you what's gonna happen oh so yes I had that mm alistun for some reason missed it so so the president has decided to not have the g7 at Doral his own property so he's there looking at Camp David now what I said about Doral is that it was actually a brilliant decision because they put our president in his home-field advantage in the way that would set the table and you know it would have a atmospheric beneficial effect in his negotiating and prestige to be at his own property and it's impressive you get a very simple it's not exactly the same but very similar by going to Camp David or anything that the government owns that's big message now I don't know if Camp David is impressive does anybody know Camp David looks like because it's

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know Camp David looks like because it's called a camp which makes me think it can't be that opulent you know if presidents go there it can't be bad so it must be a little bit opulent even if it's called a camp so I don't know what a camp david looks like if it's true that Doral was you know it great you know physically accommodations everything if Darrell was a great player to stay and the Camp David option let's say we end up with that is just an okay place to stay I think we moved backwards because the the comfort and happiness and physical surrounding of all the attendees has an impact that stuff matters it matters how you feel it matters if you got a good night's sleep matters if you're a happy optimistic pessimistic your environment makes a big difference so I think for political reasons the president you know probably made the right choice to just take that

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made the right choice to just take that off the table it was just one one more thing that people were complaining about and he did indeed it so Scott you were wrong about what I didn't predict that that the event would continue at Doral I just said that if it did it would have been a great decision in terms of the meeting itself it was not a great decision politically so in politics matter so Trump made the probably the correct political decision I wouldn't question that so Camp David is more rustic people are saying also bugged all over David is probably bugged like crazy but you know Doral would be too everything's gonna be bugged if there are world leaders there Mulvaney said

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are world leaders there Mulvaney said Camp David was not liked by journalists because it's too remote I'm sure there's pluses and minuses there
did I see milania's redesign of the tennis courts at the White House I did not somehow I missed that important story but I would I actually I'm interested in that so I think I'll I'll look for that all right well that's all I got today so I will talk to you tomorrow