Episode 693 Scott Adams: Coup-By-Hypnosis, Kurds and Fog of War, The Kingsmen Video
Date: 2019-10-14 | Duration: 1:02:18
Topics
My new book LOSERTHINK goes on sale 11/5. Pre-order: https://bit.ly/2NRammu Kingsmen video and political outrage theater Kathy Griffen complains it might incite violence Syria and the Kurds Things we know and things we do NOT know ISIS prisoners escaped…did they really? ISIS prisoner family members escaped…family members? One Turkey objective is returning 2,000,000 Syrian refugees Were the Kurds preventing Syrian refugees from returning? The concept of “sunk costs”, a Loserthink topic Matt Taibbi’s article says we’re in a coup… …and the coup is a bigger problem than President Trump A “coup-by-hypnosis” is happening Psychological tricks are helping make the coup invisible Professionally trained liars and their media allies Influence hypnotized Example: Fareed Zakaria Naval’s question: How can the unarmed overthrow the armed? Answer: Convince the armed that a coup didn’t happen Impeachment 18 months (or less) from an election? Is there some unknown immediate danger? Or is impeachment just political theater to win election? How can we prevent the coup? The Senate has prevented the coup…so far My coup result prediction
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Wow and I know you're here for the simultaneous if so why would I disappoint you I wouldn't I wouldn't all you need to participate in this simultaneous up is I think you know it goes a little like this a cup or a mug or a glasses Stein the chalice the tengu thermos flask canteen Grail goblet vessel of any kind fell it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine the end of the day the thing that makes everything better the simultaneous it go let me tell you ever since I got this electronic coffee
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ever since I got this electronic coffee warmer my quality of life has sued because there's nothing better than warm coffee let's talk about the news so not hearing much about the China trade deal today I suppose there's nothing to report well I am very skeptical that there's going to be a major China trade deal that covers everything comprehensively we might have some deals on some individual stuff but I've got a feeling that the soft decoupling is going to happen at the same time as whatever agreements we make we China I went shopping yesterday for some shirts and started looking at labels for the first time ever and I went to the Nike section and I wanted I really wanted some Nike products so the bad news is Nike makes really good
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bad news is Nike makes really good products so I'm standing in the sort of the Nike you know I was looking for sweatshirts and stuff and I think I like all this stuff and I thought no can't do it nice I had to look further so I found some stuff made in Honduras something made in Vietnam and I know some of you are gonna say hey those are just Chinese companies who have relocated because of the tariffs well maybe but it's still better I would still rather give my business to a Chinese entity that's operating and employing Hondurans who don't need to come north of the border and I don't mind that they're employing local Vietnamese and probably paying taxes in Vietnam that's ok with me so from this point on I'm going to be well at least as long as China is involved with shipping friends and holds of this country I will do what I can to reduce my exposure to their products now before you say it yes I know that there are
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you say it yes I know that there are probably some number of Dilbert products printed in China right I don't know if this one is let me check papa I was probably written here somewhere so I don't really know where this was pretend but let me tell you this I don't make the printing decisions so I make my deal with my comic syndication company they make another deal with a publisher the publisher makes another deal with a printer so I'm several deals away from that now what I recommend for everybody not just me is that I don't recommend a hard decoupling in other words if you're already doing business there you've already got a factory there you've already got a contract go ahead and run it out but you don't have to do new business and you don't have to buy their stuff yeah if you have options that's
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stuff yeah if you have options that's all I'm saying it wouldn't take a lot of decoupling just a little bit of decoupling it's gonna be a big difference because remember you know a GDP if it goes up 3% is amazing so you don't have to have that much of an impact on another economy for it to really let's talk about the Kingsmen video outraged I believe it's time to do outrage theater the story is that some supporters of President Trump held an event at the Doral Golf Club owned by the president and it was I don't know if it was just supporters the president wasn't there it was just supporters use that space and they showed a loop of some memes videos and one of the numerous memes was this one that was a take off of a movie the King's Men in which there's a super bloody scene where the star of the movie shoots a lot of people up close you know puts the gun to
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people up close you know puts the gun to their head one after another just shoots dozens and dozens of people and stabs them in creative ways and the mean the maker I'm not sure exactly who made this one replace the heads of the people being killed with logos for you know the various networks and then there were some celebrities such as Rosie O'Donnell and Kathy Griffin now and then the person doing the killing of was superimposed Trump's head was superimposed on that character so looked as though Trump was killing all of his media enemies and celebrity enemies now what do you think was the response to that video outrage theater well this is no good it's too square needs to be ruffle more rough alone let me fix this perfect outrage theater I am so outraged because
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outrage theater I am so outraged because of a video the video makes me outraged there are many things happening in the world today in Syria in Hong Kong in Africa in all kinds of places but why am i outraged about a video it's a video and I know right I've outraged I'm outraged
and see at some point can we stop pretending anybody really cares about this little stuff does anybody really care about that video no they do not it's just a gotcha opportunity where one side can say ah I gotta I gotta this time you'll never get away from my mocking of your badness for your video it's so bad what's the funniest thing about it funniest thing about it is that Kathy Griffin complained that it might spark
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Griffin complained that it might spark violence against her and people like her I suppose meaning critics of the president because it shows violence against critics so the president and that looks like it's condoning or or encouraging it at least for crazy people now here's my problem you might remember that I took a very unpopular stand some time ago a couple years ago when Kathy Griffin got called out for holding the severed head of the president not a real one the president is still alive for a photograph and the world blew up and what did a lot of people say raised about Kathy Griffin's holding of several president are outraged and seem so there was fake outrage about Kathy Griffin and now Kathy Griffin's giving some fake outrage back but there is a kernel of some truth
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back but there is a kernel of some truth there which is if we do act as though violence against our political nemec's is somehow funny and entertaining I could see how somewhere there's somebody who's crazy enough to think well there's my there's the green light I guess I'll guess I'll go do some violence and of course you know this this triggers a lot of people on the right to show videos of anti-fog being I limped against Trump supporters etc but mostly this is just political outrage theater but the Kathy Griffin thing I can't get past it there's only one person in the whole world who doesn't get to complain about the Kingsmen video only one it's Kathy Griffin if Rosie O'Donnell complains about it because she's also in it I'd say oh it's a good point Rosie you know it's not the biggest problem in the
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it's not the biggest problem in the world but I think you're right Rosie you complaining about being in that video showing people on your team being murdered I can see why you'd be worried about that and I will even I will even join you Rosie Rosie O'Donnell I will join you and say that that video should be which would say disavowed and I would prefer that it not run anymore I I would also be on the team with saying okay I I get that the creator was making a certain kind of content for a certain kind of consumer who probably enjoyed it and didn't take it seriously at all I don't take it seriously at all but I can see why maybe the world's better off without it so if Rosie O'Donnell complained about that I'd say you know Rosie I have not agreed with you on much but I think we could find common ground on that video that that's a little too far but I defended Kathy Griffin for showing
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but I defended Kathy Griffin for showing that joke picture of a severed head even though it clearly encourages people to be violent against Trump supporters again in a very small way not an average person with an average brain they know it's just a joke but maybe maybe there are some people on the fringe who are just saying well if Kathy Griffin shows a severed head maybe people think violence against Trump supporters is okay so you can make an argument that maybe in some small way it made the world worse the Kathy Griffin held up ahead but I defended her on creative and humor grounds basically the fact it was funny you got attention wasn't meant to be violent wasn't meant to cause violence it wasn't that at all but now she's complaining about the same thing from the other side what is the functional moral difference between what
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functional moral difference between what Kathy Griffin did with her severed head which I defended and what the Kingsmen video did with their video what's the functional difference I don't see one do you I mean they're not exactly the same thing but functionally there's the same thing so let me revise what I said I said there's one person in the world who does not have a moral right to complain about that Kingsman video they're actually two on the other one because I also gave a pass to Kathy Griffin for her severed head so I'm gonna give the same pass to the Kingsmen video people and the people who showed it which is not the choice I would have made not the video I would have made but it was in this in a creative sense it was being made in other words that were was somebody who was an artist a meme artist in this case but that's a legitimate art in my opinion there was an artist who
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in my opinion there was an artist who did a piece of art and some people didn't like it if you take it beyond that I think you're not doing a service to society so Kathy Griffin and I are in the same boat we are the two people who should not be complaining about that video but at the same time I went to done it I think the world is better without it all right let's talk about let's talk about Syria and the Kurds I've warned you repeatedly that the fog of war makes everything that you hear about this story unreliable so for the first I don't know how long it's going to last but we're certainly in still in the fog of war we don't really know what's going on over there and if we're being rational we now if the president made the right decision or the wrong decision why do I say that because we don't know the outcome yet we know the initial outcome at least we
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know the initial outcome at least we have reporting that that there are Kurds dying that we wish were not dying and we know Turkey is attacked etc so there are facts we know or at least in a very general way we know that that sort of stuff is going on over there but we don't know how it's gonna shake out because that's just day one stuff we just don't know how it will shake out so if you have a strong opinion that this is the best thing in the world or the worst thing in the world and I'm talking about moving the US troops out of Syria if you have a strong opinion on it I don't think it's warranted I think it's a wait-and-see that's what the way it looks to me now if you're telling me that the short-term ramifications look terrible I would say to you yeah it looks that way to me but does that tell you that it was a bad decision not even close because the decision was not meant to solve a short-term problem it was a long-term decision of which
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it was a long-term decision of which we've seen only the first few days impact which don't really mean much if you're looking at a hundred-year decision so as tragic as it is I don't want to minimize the tragedy because it looks like it's pretty dire over there so I'm not minimizing that at all I'm just saying that countries make long-term decisions they don't make short-term decisions or at least they shouldn't so we don't really know how this will work out but we're starting to see some things shape up here's the first things you should know have you seen all the reporting about the members of Isis escaping do you believe those reports do you believe the initial reports about Isis escaping if you do you shouldn't you shouldn't believe them let's say you're the Kurds if you were the Kurds and the u.s. just pulled this troops out what's the first fake news that you
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what's the first fake news that you would create the first fake news you would create as the Isis is getting away and it's all your fault right now I'm not saying that Isis isn't getting away because I don't know I'm not there I'm not watching all we know are the reports what is what fake news could you guarantee with a hundred percent certainty would come out of that warzone right away so whether or not there are any Isis people being released from prisons were escaping for peasants regardless of the truth of what's happening there would it also not be true that there's a hundred percent chance the Kurds would say it's happening yes there's a hundred percent chance the Kurds would say it's happening even if it's not happening now is it happening let's talk about whether it's happening well I hear are the reports that I've seen members of Isis have escaped and then you read further
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have escaped and then you read further and it's family members of Isis have escaped so in other words the reports that I've seen and maybe you've seen other ones because again this is all fog of war stuff the reports I've seen said that the family members of Isis who would also be Isis but they're you know mothers daughters brothers who were fighting that sort of thing grandpa grandpa the kids so there's some word that the family members of Isis escaped to which I asked you why were the family members in prison why were the family members in prison and were they going to just stay in prison forever is it a life sentence to be related to somebody who was in Isis do you remember when President Trump said he was you know he was going to kill the family members of terrorists over in the Middle East what did everybody say
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East what did everybody say my god you can't kill the family members you can kill the combatants all you want but you can't kill the family members what kind of monster are you what exactly is happening over there right now are not the family members in imprisoned camps for ever for just being related isn't that exactly what's happening what the president said and then he had to disavow and then everybody said that would be way too far are we supporting Kurds who have put in prison camps or at least guarding the prison camps of family members I don't know that's that's just an open question I'm not saying that we should or shouldn't or they shouldn't be in prison I'm not even saying that Isis family members should not be in prison I don't know because I don't know I I would have to know a lot more what it means to be a family member so I would consider myself
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family member so I would consider myself too ignorant to have a good opinion on that but I think you have to ask the question are they family members escaping or are they combatants now I've heard reports also that none of the combatants have escaped remember I said before that if you were the Kurds and you'd done all that sacrifice to beat Isis and you had them in prison if there were any chance that they would escape the actual combatants I'm not talking about family members now but the actual combatants the Isis fighters don't you think you'd kill them in prison if you thought there was any chance they'd get out wouldn't wouldn't that be the last thing you did before the Turks over and your position you'd kind of kill him imprisoned because the last thing you want is for them to get help and I would argue that if if there's a risk of them getting out of prison and like and that risk looks very high and you know that the moment they got out they would try to kill you I don't know maybe you can
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to kill you I don't know maybe you can kill them in prison I'm not even sure that that would be necessarily a war crime if you knew that they were going to kill you any minute unless you kill them first I don't know how that works I guess it would depend on the specifics but watch watch for the illegitimate news the very illegitimate news to conflate watch for this today watch how they conflate some family members of Isis have have escaped which may or may not be a big deal vs. actual militant combatants have escaped look for that distinction because the news isn't making that distinction and I feel like that's a big deal alright now the other thing we're seeing is that the news is that the Kurds have made a hasty deal with the Russians and Syrians so that the Russians and Syrians will come in and push the Turks back to Turkey which some would say would make the whole the whole war there a waste a
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the whole the whole war there a waste a waste because then the US is gone and Isis can reconstitute and all that but here's the question I ask you how much reconstituting is Isis going to do as long as the Russian military and Assad are in power in Syria and the Turks are just as just as interested in making Isis go away at this point I would think I think Turkey was instrumental in arming them in the first place but at this point I don't think turkey wants any more Isis I could be wrong about that so there's at least one there's one school of thought that says that by the US leaving we force them to reach a new balancing point that had to happen so as long as we were there there was an artificial balance that could never be a permanent stable situation by pulling us out all hell breaks loose but fairly
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out all hell breaks loose but fairly quickly that all hell breaks loose might turn into a stable situation and maybe that's good for the long run now the stable situation would be that the Russians and the Syrians with Assad as as they're somewhat Sleater I'm not even sure Assad is in charge in Syria are you is Assad just a Russian puppet at this point I don't know exactly how that relationship works I'm not sure anybody does but I don't see a situation in which Syria is willing to allow Isis to reconstitute and even if the Syrians couldn't do it themselves I think the Russians can I'm pretty sure the Russians can beat back Isis all day long as long as they're willing to stay there with their military presence so what Turkey wanted now here's the other angle that I'm not seeing discussed what Turkey wanted at least
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discussed what Turkey wanted at least partly maybe it was all they wanted but one of their big goals was to repatriate or move back two million Syrians who were displaced by the war and came to Turkey for safety turkey wants to relocate them back in Syria to which I say that's a pretty good goal isn't it wouldn't it be a worthy goal for Turkey to move Syrians back into their own country what was preventing turkey from moving the Syrian refugees back into Syria am I wrong than it was the Kurds can somebody fact-check me on this was it not the Kurds who believed they had carved down a little homeland for themselves in Syria were they not the problem preventing two million Syrians from going back to their own home in fact checked me on that somebody says not the
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checked me on that somebody says not the Kurds but if it wasn't the Kurds why is it that the Turks have to conquer the Kurds in order to move the refugees back I might be just moot it's possible I'm missing some gigantic factual point here so here's my question why are we not talking about the Turks moral authority to move refugees back to their own homes doesn't Turkey have a moral authority to do that I mean obviously they may be doing it for their own benefit for their internal purposes but doesn't it make sense from a moral standpoint that Turkey moving refugees back to where they came from and probably want to return I don't know that that's bad and what was preventing it from happening feels like it was the Kurds who's reporting on that and again am I just missing something because I
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am I just missing something because I might be missing something important here but it seems to me the Kurds were a problem even though they were allies you can be both it's a complicated place you can be our best friends and our allies and still be the problem there's there's nothing that would be make that impossible so it looks like what's happening is this Syria and Russia are moving in and they're going to team up with the Kurds fingers crossed that doesn't turn out bad for the Kurds or anybody else but I don't know it's a dangerous situation but the idea is that then the Syrians Russians and Kurds working together might be able to repatriate those two million people because then they would be repatriated into friendly political territory Syria and as far as I know I don't know that the ones who left were necessarily running from the Syrian government were they or were the ones the refugees were they running from Isis or were they just
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they running from Isis or were they just running from fighting in general so there's so many things we don't know about the 2 million refugees and all that so we're still the fog of war it's hard to have a firm opinion but I would say that the way it's shaping up is that the early reporting is probably BS meaning the Isis escaping is probably family members and I'm not sure how much we care if family members get in and secondly I don't know that this hasn't already led to the very best situation it's possible that as of today assuming that this Syrian Russian Kurdish agreement becomes productive and assuming that turkey can still repatriate its two million people but they don't have to be an army to do it they can just say hey Syria Russia Kurds if you if you want to be in charge of that area here's here's two million refugees they're all yours how does that work so would would assad
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how does that work so would would assad take them back is that even an option and where did the kurds get this homeland somebody says you're fumbling through a genocide scott well here's the thing i don't know what that means to say I'm fumbling through a genocide I'm saying that it's a murky situation is whoever said that do you have a clear picture of what's happening or did you just feel like coming in and saying something ugly is there somebody here who has a clear picture of all that all this happening now and also everything that's going to happen because if you don't know what's going to happen I don't know how close you are now the other big question is what do we owe the Kurds because we fought together against this common enemy Isis does that give us some obligation to the Kurds forever well it depends how you look at it if what happened was the Kurds helped us be
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what happened was the Kurds helped us be our enemy then that's that's one framework in which you say oh we owe those curves they helped us we are loyal to you forever but is that what happened it's not like we hired them as mercenaries and they were fighting a war that only helped us it looks more to me like we helped the Kurds in a problem that was much bigger for them meaning that the Kurds had an Isis problem in their territory I mean their neighborhood and we helped them eliminate Isis from their neighborhood doesn't don't occur to us isn't that the way it works we armed the Kurds we fought we died to get rid of the risk that was far more of a risk in their neighborhood than it was to us it was the risk to us but not near as much as it was to them don't the Kurds I us no I'm saying that just to be provocative I don't think they owe us well what I'm saying is that being on
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well what I'm saying is that being on the same team we're a limited engagement doesn't make you bound to each other forever in other ways for example have you heard a World War two it was big thing was in the news there was this thing called world war two in which the United States teamed up with Stalin Stalin was on our team so it was it was the United States and Stalin beating the Nazis now did that make us indebted to Stalin forever no we were just on the same team fighting the same same enemy for a while and then it was over and the Kurds it seems more like that to me I mean there are no analogies that are perfect so if anybody's looking for the error in the analogy I get it I get it analogies are not exactly the same blah blah I'm just making the case then it is
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blah I'm just making the case then it is not automatic that because you fought on the same side for a while that either of you each other anything after it's done after it's done the reason that you were doing it is done and then it's a new decision have you ever heard of the the concept of a sunk cost if you haven't you should read looser think because there are some things that once you've spent it once somebody is already dead once your money is already spent you can't go back in history and fix it you have to make each decision today based on what today looks like going forward if you make your decision today you say okay the fighting with the Kurds is yesterday we did that now stunts now what decision would make today based on today's variables today's variables say perhaps we did what we wanted to do we're not a police force the locals are in the
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force the locals are in the the best position to keep Isis tamp down it's time to leave that's the decision you would make if you understood how sunk costs work the the things we've already done with the Turks was great but it's also already done we did not ever make them any kind of a deal for permanent protection there was never an agreement or we never voted on it Congress never said yes I don't even think it was implied it was maybe expected by them it was maybe desired well certainly desired but we saw I don't think we made any kind of commitment like that to say we will stay with you forever and we will protect you against all forces no matter what they are even if they're NATO I don't believe we haven't made that commitment so if you want to learn learn how to think about sunk costs and other ways to look at the world that just allow you to look
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at the world that just allow you to look at it the way other people would look at it you don't even have to say this is the one way to look at it but my book that you can pre-order now and I wish you would because it'll be available November 5th but pre-order is helping a lot because it boosts the sales in the beginning and then it gets on the bestseller lists and that becomes self-sustaining so it helps me a lot of you pre-ordered from Amazon or any place you pre-order books and that's one of the topics one of the topics is knowing how to separate the past and call that a sunk cost as a concept from economics but the book teaches you the simple concepts like that sunk costs would just be you know one tiny part of the book but it teaches you a number of thinking techniques across different disciplines that are just as easy to pick up as that one is so let me ask you this do you think Isis is happy that the Russians
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think Isis is happy that the Russians and the Syrians look like they're going to take full control of Syria back I don't know that Isis is happy about that because whatever we were willing to do to Isis and it was pretty bad I'm pretty sure the Russians are worse or willing to do even more so I know we'll see how that goes the thing I'm wondering now is whether or not turkey will require a safe zone on the border if the Russians and the Syrians effectively occupied that land that the Kurds were holding with our help if they effectively occupy that that would get rid of the safe zone and is turkey okay with having no safe zone because I think part of it was to keep the bad guys from crossing their border right so I don't know if Turkey has a way to stand down maybe they do maybe Turkey can just say okay Russia Syria if you're going to take care of this just
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you're going to take care of this just stay on your side of the border and we'll stay on our side maybe I don't know Matt Taibbi wrote that great article I think I talked about yesterday in which he characterized the deep state actions against the President as a permanent coup one that is happening right in front of us and what what is interesting about Matt Taibbi is peace and people were confused why I recommended it so highly because he said some bad things about President Trump and people said I I can't stand this writer he lost all of his credibility because he said bad things about Trump but that's actually why he has credibility because he's not a trump supporter he's very much not a trump supporter and says I would clear language and at the same time says it can also be true that there is a coup happening right in front of us I haven't
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happening right in front of us I haven't seen anybody do that before I don't know that I've seen anybody who's a legitimate thinker you know somebody who's well informed and as a public platform who would say you know it's true the president's got these flaws and I wish he had not been elected but at the same time I'm not there is a coup happening and what Matt Taibbi said is that no matter what you think of the president there's no way that the coup isn't the bigger problem because the coup is actually replacing the form of government in the country that keeps the entire plan is stable it effectively makes the the pan opticon if you will mix the intelligence services in charge and the way Taibbi I hope I'm pronouncing his name correctly over close the way he describes it is also the way I see it and most abusing it you see that there's some unholy alliance between current and past intelligence
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between current and past intelligence and law enforcement folks and the in the media you can see for example NBC it's been widely reported NBC is essentially an organ of the CIA now by the way if you didn't already know that you probably said to yourself what Scott whoa you jumped the shark I was with you because a lot of the things you said sounds reasonable you sounded like you're saying but you just said that NBC is basically a wholly owned subsidiary of the CIA and that can't be true well look it up turns out that's one of the most well documented things in the news Glenn Greenwald writes about this and not only is it true it's demonstrated it's it's as true as anything could possibly true there's nothing more true than that this is not like Russia
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than that this is not like Russia collusion it's not like conspiracy theories this is this is one that pretty much everybody understands if they're paying attention so and that's why you know you see Brennan and clapper on certainly outlets but not others Brennan is always an NBC or MSNBC person I guess so that Taibbi calls it out that we have a coup that's in progress it's clearly a coup and it's far more dangerous than whatever President Trump might do with all of his impulsiveness etcetera so navall rava Conte who I mentioned often smartest person in the world in my opinion he tweeted this he said I still don't see how the unarmed half of the country is going to overthrow the candidate elected by the armed half of the country so it was a provocative
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the country so it was a provocative tweet that there's a slow-motion coup happening and it looks like the unarmed half of the country is somehow going to overthrow the armed half and so navall reasonably asked how the acts that could work and so I answered by tweet and my answer was this by convincing them it didn't happen what you're watching is the first coup by hypnosis let that sink in you're watching a coup by hypnosis and by hypnosis I like to use the more provocative word for persuasion and influence and dirty tricks and all that but in the fact not in effect quite literally the it appears all evidence suggests that the media and the intelligence folks the Democrats the people who were sort of loosely
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people who were sort of loosely affiliated in the anti-trump world are running a coup that is made partially invisible through psychological tricks now those psychological tricks are obvious to some of us those people who sort of study these things can see it see it like you're reading it from a book but those of you who are not steeped in the ways of persuasion it would be invisible to you for example you you do understand that half of the world thinks that the president has already done such fraudulent and criminal things that it's obvious he should be removed and jailed half of the world has been hypnotized into thinking that the president has committed actual crimes that are not only numerous but proven and that it's just right there and you can see it now I don't know how they
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can see it now I don't know how they explained the fact that he's still in office and there doesn't seem to be any legal action against them other than maybe they're waiting for him to get an office or something but half something like half of the country has been hypnotized into believing that the president has already committed crimes worthy of impeachment and that they can see them that's this is the funny part that they can see them and if you ask them well I can't see them can you give me an example you get crazy okay I was doing this yesterday with I won't name names but he lets say a prominent person was debating me yesterday privately and saying that it was obvious that President Trump was going down for his various financial fraudulent Billings and so I asked for an example and the examples given were what if
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and the examples given were what if examples what if we see in his taxes a problem what what if the impeachment process allows somebody to find out something about some money laundering or something he's alleged to have done what if he didn't account on his taxes in a certain way that would be illegal to which I say I'm pretty sure you can what if anybody into jail what if you murder somebody tomorrow what if your house is not really yours and you stole it what if a lion comes into your room and kills you well you can what if anything if that's the best you have but you're believing that the what if is the same as facts you're in some kind of a hypnotized Bubble reality where the the deep state has hypnotized you you're actually seeing stuff that
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you you're actually seeing stuff that isn't there let me give you my best example so it's always more that the hypnosis is always more clear when you're dealing with somebody who is under normal circumstances very rational and that's why for Reid Zakaria is a perfect example now I've been watching for Reid's content mostly on CNN for years and I'm a big fan so Fareed Zakaria is very well informed very good at his job very smart and I would regard him as one of the more rational players in the public eye very rational guy hears I'm gonna paraphrase so I hope I don't get this wrong because I'm not I promise I'm not trying to misinterpret him to get some kind of political point I think this is a fair statement of his opinion in part he was saying that he had been a against impeachment to the president or against the impeachment
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president or against the impeachment process up until recently and one of the main things that changed his mind just wait for this and remember I'm pointing out for Reid because he's so rational super rational proven intellect okay and he said this I think I've got this right if I'm misinterpreting him I will be happy to apologize if anybody points it out but I think this is what he said he said that the problem is that the impeachment inquiry it's going on the president is resisting and that it's the resisting of that investigation that makes it an impeachable situation to which I say the impeachment thing is illegitimate the president knows it's illegitimate and here's the best part his resistance is completely within the legal framework in other words he's resisting they're
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in other words he's resisting they're making a legal argument the legal argument will be taken to various courts and then those courts will decide all evidence from this president is if the court decides that he has to do something he's going to do it there is no history to suggest that the administration will do anything except follow what the courts tell him to do so here's this hyper-rational guy and again I I mean this completely seriously Fareed Zakaria is a serious intellectual force and very credible in general but he actually said in public like it made sense that the president using ordinary legal mechanisms obeying the law in the sense of following the legal process and resisting what is clearly an illegitimate impeachment process that is only for political purposes there's somehow that resistance is the evidence why he should you should be impeached now for those of you who
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be impeached now for those of you who were not hypnotized does that make any sense to you that is not what rational people say it's not the opinion of somebody whose brain is working independent of influence he's got a very strong brain and I think this is just my impression you know I'm not a mind reader but I believe that his intentions are to be accurate and fair I don't believe he's saying this just to make a political point I think that he believed when he said that the president has crossed the line into impeachment territory by resisting through normal legal means totally appropriate legal means participating in a witch-hunt is that a real opinion seriously now if you are not a trained Adventist and most of you are not but I am one of the things you learn is cognitive dissonance and
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you learn is cognitive dissonance and unlike those of you who have just sort of read about it you know it exists you know that people have it hypnotists learned to spot it more regularly in other words our framework has cognitive dissonance so built into it that we see it everywhere you know maybe we see it too much but to me this is just a classic example because I believe that Farid probably saw this as an entirely rational thing to say but when I see it because I'm not rapidly anti-trump I look at it and I say that doesn't make any sense at all resisting a witch-hunt using completely legal normal process in the courts is nothing it's literally nothing there's nothing there and yeah he's decided that would be reason enough to overthrow an election I mean how do you get there except being hypnotized so are you and
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except being hypnotized so are you and again I use the word hypnosis as my digital assistant is listening to me
so to get back to navall spoink how can the unarmed half of the country overthrow the armed half and the way that they'll do it is by making the country think it didn't happen they the the intelligence agencies are experts at this stuff the reason that people are experts at intelligence is because they understand how to hide things out of cool things that how to fake things out of have secret identities had to be had a sneak around all of the things you learn to be an intelligence professional would teach you how to hypnotize the public and it looks like now I'll say I won't say it looks like this is what's happening statement effect there are members within the government and the
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members within the government and the media who do work together we all agree that's a fact right we know that the intelligence people are not at least some number of active ones are and and retired ones are not fans of the President and we can observe right in front of us that they have created something and of nothing they have created a hypnosis persuasion reality which they're trying to fit into people's heads and if they do they will have achieved a bloodless coup and and they're actually making a really good attempt at it let me ask you this but put this in perspective one of the biggest stories and what everybody's talking about is the Ukrainian phone call that's President made and here's let me give you a thought experiment imagine the world just an artificial world in which there's a person who has never followed the news has never seen
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never followed the news has never seen the news pro Trump never seen the news anti Trump and yet they understand you know what a president is and they know how the system works and everything but for some weird reason they have never watched a single news coverage okay and then you take to that person this story you say so the president was on the phone call with the head of Ukraine there were some some reasons to suspect that the guy who's polling first to be president in the next election might have some serious financial conflicts of interest would which would make it very dangerous to be President so the president talked to the president of Ukraine and said can he help me out with this investigation of this fellow who looks like he obviously has some connections there would be a problem if he were elected and and by the way just some background we have a treaty with Ukraine for investigations and while it
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Ukraine for investigations and while it would be maybe more appropriate that this sort of thing is handled at the staff level in other words the FBI is the right entity for example it's good if the leaders talk so the leaders were queuing it up to make it easier for the underlings to do what they needed to do so in this thought experiment I've just described this to someone who's never watched the news they'd never seen the CNN they've never seen Fox what did they say about the phone call do they say that president is a traitor and he sold out the country for political gain nope no they don't probably never I'll bet you could have a thousand people in a row and not one out of a thousand would hear that story the way I just described it and say you know that guy you know you didn't mention this but it's obvious from the story that the president's a big old traitor and he's selling out the
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big old traitor and he's selling out the country for political gain nobody would have that interpretation everybody I believe a hundred percent of people who had not been exposed to the hypnosis of the news if they had not been exposed to that would have just heard the story and say yeah alright and then let's say you said okay but yeah I don't want to bias the experiment I will tell you that some people don't think it's right for the president to ask a foreign power to do something that could have an effect on the election now what do you think about it and again this is somebody who has never had any exposure to the news no pundit no opinion whatsoever what would they say about it they buddy say yeah I can see it I guess the other point how important is it important it was a phone call it's not important yeah I could see I can see why some people are saying you shouldn't do that but definitely not important and by the way it was also his job yeah I can see it's just not
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job yeah I can see it's just not important do you think you could get one person to say that the president should be impeached if you could describe that situation to them without the pundits telling people what to think now I've been telling you this for a long time the public does not form opinions on politics the public does not form upon form opinions their opinions are assigned to them you can tell because you just go on social media and all the opinions are the ones you just saw on the news right almost never do you see somebody with a unique opinion that's why Matt Taibbi stands out the reason the reason that I tweeted that around is not because it's not because I agreed with the opinion because he said some things about Trump's that I would not agree with and some some predictions that I wouldn't agree with what was unique about it so you hadn't seen that opinion before Matt
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you hadn't seen that opinion before Matt Taibbi had maybe the first opinion you've ever seen that wasn't assigned to him think about it Matt Taibbi wrote a public opinion piece in which as far as I can tell he might be the only person whose opinion was not assigned to him by the media here's another one Glenn Greenwald there's stuff that there are things that Glenn Greenwald says that I just don't like it all and don't agree with so he and I are not philosophically compatible I'm not a I'm not a fan in terms of his opinions but I'm a big fan in terms of his credibility because he has opinions that you just don't see anywhere else because he's willing to say hey maybe both sides are bad how about that you just don't see that a little bit similar to Matt Taibbi as opinion so keep in
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to Matt Taibbi as opinion so keep in mind that you have a situation in which the intelligence agencies with all of their training and persuasion are working with the media and all of their their platforms for persuasion and that collectively they're creating a a hypnosis based reality that is sucking more and more people into it such as Fareed Zakaria and they're buying into an artificial view of the world that is so strong that they could take over the country in a bloodless coup completely believing things that aren't true and that appears to be the situation that appears to be the situation as far as I can tell my my best to the degree that I could be objective my best objective opinion is that you're seeing a permanent coup situation in which people who have way too much ability the intelligence people plus the media they have a lot of
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plus the media they have a lot of ability to form opinion they're using that to do what guns used to do so that's the situation all right there's some there's some breaking news that hunter Biden is just can use stepping down from the board of a Chinese company now you can imagine what the pundits said about that I was a Brit Hume who said it best I wasn't doing anything wrong and I'm gonna stop doing it right away yeah somebody said beau why if it was never wrong why do you have to step down well that's the problem isn't it if it was ever appropriate he shouldn't have stepped down but if it was always inappropriate Wow
Wow thanks for finally admitting it and
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thanks for finally admitting it and stepping down so there was no way for him to win he couldn't stay there and he couldn't step down he had two bad decisions maybe stepping down was the the less bad of the bad decisions so that's interesting I think it's hilarious that one of the effects of this election is that Trump will cause hunter Biden's income to go way down I mean think about how much money hunter Biden is going to lose because Trump is after it's gonna be a lot I mean millions I mean hunter Biden's entire lifestyle this probably just completely rearranged now because however rich he thought he was going to be well maybe not so much now I'm seeing the hashtags here so I understand that Project Veritas is teasing that there's some video coming out from inside CNN is that yet I
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coming out from inside CNN is that yet I have not seen the news on that so sometime today we're gonna see that can anybody give me an update in the comments as project Veritas dropped yet so we'll all be looking forward to that the slaughter meter the slaughter meters at a hundred percent unless the deep state and the media working together accomplish their coup ahead of time let me ask you this 18 months before in elections how much do you really need an impeachment do you really need that is there can you have any credibility if you're trying to impeach somebody while there's an election on it would be one thing to impeach somebody the day they got elected for their second term because then you know maybe you could save three or four years of whatever badness you're trying to avoid but if you're trying to impeach somebody while we're in the you know we're starting to
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we're in the you know we're starting to heat up for the actual election there's no way - that can't be supported the only way you could support that is to prove somehow that the president is an immediate danger that leaving him in there one more minute would be bad so if you can even get an amount of there a few weeks early before the end of this term that would help unless you can make the case that the the danger is immediate there is no question that it's political and if you've bought into any of the things they're saying about the president's behavior that is clearly insane and illegal according to the hypnotists well ask yourself if that's an independent opinion because it's not you've been assigned that opinion all right that's about all I've got for now did I miss anything
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somebody says they're not trying to impeach they're trying to influence elections yeah well I think they're trying to do whichever they can get away with so if they could impeach they would if all they can do is influence the election they will and that's all we got somebody says how do we stop the coup well that's a good question you could vote for Trump that would probably do it you know assuming that the Senate is not willing to go along with the coup and think about it the Senate is the only thing protecting protecting us from a coup that's it if not for a Republican majority in the Senate the coup would have already worked think about that if you didn't have a bullet if you didn't have a Republican majority in the Senate the coup would have already worked they would have already removed the president
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would have already removed the president that's mind boggling for nothing the the hypnotists and the coup plotters would have already removed the president except for a Republican majority in the Senate that that's just mind boggling alright somebody else for me when hub update I'll give you that in a bit I've got I'm working on some stuff here that made maybe will be worth talking about real soon
mockery is probably the best approach I don't know I don't know if mockery will get them off base any predictions on the coup yeah my prediction is that it will cause president Trump to win in a landslide so I believe that between now and Election Day the the coup masters will be sufficiently unmasked that people were going to be really angry
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people were going to be really angry that they fell for one fell for one scam after another I mean I don't know how key
key will can look at the whole Russian collusion situation and come away from the thinking well it was a good try or well I think there was still something there it just seems to me that even some Democrats or at least independents are gonna say you know I think you've I think you fooled us too many times who do they want to rule well everybody wants to rule all right that's all I got for now and I will talk to you all later happy Columbus Day