Episode 682 Scott Adams: Trump Campaign Ads, Chinese Tainted Pork, Citizen Participation

Date: 2019-10-03 | Duration: 1:02:06

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My new book LOSERTHINK goes on sale 11/5. Pre-order: https://bit.ly/2NRammu 2 top-shelf campaign ads released yesterday by Trump campaign Has North Korea ALREADY received a “security guarantee”? A million pounds of tainted pork from China discovered Two-way communication: President Trump and the people Eliminating the middle-man media filter WaPo article mocks President Trump’s followers Quid Pro Quo attack on President Trump is now… …Quid Pro Joe President Trump’s typos, so what? CNN Cillizza’s funny article that wasn’t intended to be funny Karma has come to visit Chris Cillizza and CNN “Biden and his son are stone cold crooked and you know it” Why isn’t Narcan anonymously available to the public?

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pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom pom hey I just noticed that people are coming online to watch me grab a seat gather round there's still room still ruling the internet so what a fun day I love it when the news is all funny I think well in this country anyway there's a tragedy in France but the news of this country seems to be all the funny kind kind I like and we can enjoy it together with a little thing called the simultaneous it's coming at you it's coming at you fast and all you need is a cup of market for glasses tiny cellist a tanker a thermos of Alaska Cantina Grail a goblet or vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I'm partial to coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine here the day the thing that makes everything better oh it's gonna be a good one this time simultaneous hip go I hope you could all

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simultaneous hip go I hope you could all enjoy the full simultaneity of that it was sublime well of course I know you want me to talk about Trump's - video campaign video ads he just came out with he meaning his team two of the strongest best campaign ads you're ever gonna see and look look what time it is I mean we've got a lot of time between now and the election apparently they they're smelling blood in the water and they just unloaded the just unloaded the magazine into Joe Biden so the if you didn't see them they're just classics and here's here's something that we can now say with a certain degree of confidence is probably going to be a theme for a future Trump ads and the

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theme for a future Trump ads and the theme will be funny because funny works funny works every time and these lays two ads I'll talk about in a moment were both funny without a punchline they're just hilarious just because of what they express just the the ideas themselves are actually laughs you'll fall down hilariously funny so what the most famous one that he did yesterday or was released yesterday was showing Joe Biden saying they never had a discussion with hunter Biden his son about his overseas business with Ukraine and then then it cuts immediately from Biden saying that to Nickelback the band and I guess there's a video you know a music video in which they hold up a photograph and in place of whatever photograph was there in the original song was the golf

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there in the original song was the golf photograph of Joe Biden his son and the Ukrainian board member who was golfing in their foursome and some other random guy so it's hilarious because of the way they juxtaposed it and the way they throw in the Nickelback cuz when you see Nickelback you laugh anyway you just automatically Nickelback cuz Nickelback is the only band well are they there might be another one but I can't think of another band where when you just say the name of the band you're star laughing Nickelback because so many people have you know a feeling about Nickelback now of course I'm no music expert and they've been hugely successful so I'm not the one who says that art is subjective I would just note that the way the public receives this band is sort of with a little bit of a priming to laughs because they're used as a punchline so often so it was sort of the

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punchline so often so it was sort of the perfect video because when you see him saying that and you see the picture it's really devastatingly hilarious because it's so effective and because it's Nickelback so it's sort of ridiculous at the same time it's sort of perfect I mean you couldn't you couldn't make a better ad than that now if I'm being objective I don't believe that the photograph disc brews what Biden sent because he was kind of specific about what he said said I haven't discussed it with my son that's not the same as saying I never met a guy you work with I've golfed a lot and I've never talked business during golf well I haven't golf that much but you know I've gulped and I don't really talk business it just doesn't happen so well I don't think it's innocent when somebody golf's with the vice president a sitting vice president you know it's sort of always business I think it might

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sort of always business I think it might be technically true that he didn't have anything like a substantive conversation about hunter Biden's overseas activity but the campaign that is just as effective either way because it looks like if the answer to the question that makes by to look like a liar so the people people will receive it the way it was intended they probably won't lawyer it up like I just did the other one was just as good because it showed a whole bunch of older clips of trumps impeachment nemec's all saying that impeachment is taking away the will of the voters of course they were talking about Clinton I think so is everything from Maxine Waters to Nancy Pelosi to what's-his-name the penguin a care of members named Nadler it shows all of them saying in the clearest passionate

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them saying in the clearest passionate language the impeachment to simply change the result of an election is wrong it's devastating I mean it was really effective so I would say that the Trump whoever's doing their digital stuff man I got some good people there so I don't know who's in charge of that is that Brad parse Cal whoever it is they're killing it sorry that was a lot of fun and predictably it looks like Nickelback probably complained it looks like there was some kind of a takedown notice for it but of course as soon as was taken down somebody else reposts it so it's hard for Twitter to stay ahead of it and I'm sure I'll say this with complete certainty the the team that made this knew that it would be taken down they knew that right they knew that if they put something up with some some

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they put something up with some some famous rock bands song on it a political contact she knew it was going to be there was going to be a complaint you knew it was gonna be taken down but isn't that part of the fun you know that's part of the fun because the taking it down is not is not a bug that's a feature what is the only way to get this two bumps of publicity one is when it goes out and it's funny too when it gets taken down that's your second bumper pull it Bob listening and then people want to see it even more and they're gonna go looking for it hey where can I see that forbidden video it's sort of perfect I don't know if there's any kind of an Emmy that you can get for making these campaign videos that's like two Emmy worthy videos on one day and it's like months ahead of the election I mean how much how much better can they get between now on that it's pretty pretty impressive let's talk about something else

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our I guess our border patrol discovered 1 million pounds of infected Chinese pork headed our way and they lied about I guess whoever was shipping it lied about the contents now you might not know that pig Ebola which is the thing
that may have killed 220 million pigs half the population of pigs in China that's how big a deal is half and they just sent us knowingly knowingly in other words they falsified what the contents they knowingly sent us 1 million pounds of infected Chinese pork
now somebody said well I don't think that pork can get into our pigs unless you know there's some weird situation where our our pigs were eating the other pigs so I don't know if that's true is that like mad cow where a cow has to eat the other carro to get mad cow I don't know I don't know how that works

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don't know I don't know how that works but here's what I do know if another country sends you 1 million pounds of infected pork and they lie about the contents that country is not your friend that's not a country you could do a deal with you can't do a deal with that country not even a little bit so yet more evidence that now yeah and the other thing if you get Chinese pork do you ever wonder how much of that is actually prisoners like I'm just going to take their word for that most of it comes from pigs but does any of that meat come from dissidents would you know the difference just gonna put that out there oh my oh my what a day there's a

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there oh my oh my what a day there's a bill in Congress I may have mentioned this before but it's worth mentioning again it's bipartisan now why this is important is that with this impeachment stuff going on it seems as though nothing can get done even if both sides agree so let's watch this one there's a bipartisan bill to add more transparency to the pharmaceutical pricing apparently there's this middleman situation I think dr. Shiva explained this once one of my my calls but if I tweeted it so you can see the details but there's a middleman that controls the pricing and that's all a that's all opaque to us we can't see what's going on we can't see how much the middleman entity is charging the pharmacies and therefore we don't know why the prices are so high in the United States versus other places there's there's just something missing so the bill the proposed bill that's bipartisan would have would make them

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bipartisan would have would make them show you the prices so that you'd know how much overpriced they were and that would of course for some to lower prices because it'd be embarrassing I guess so think about the fact that there's a bipartisan bill that is just dead simple hey you guys who aren't showing us the prices and your costs you have to do that now show us the prices in the costs dead simple Republicans agree Democrats agree who do you think's holding it up right it's not the president the president isn't holding it up it's the government was wasting their time they're literally wasting you money every time you go to the pharmacy you can thank Nancy Pelosi that you paid 20% more than you needed to because apparently the solution is here they just have to pass that bill both sides like it just have to do the damn job that's all just do your job

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that's all just do your job safe and save you 20% of the pharmacy or something all right North Korea is says they're optimistic about their upcoming working-level talks about denuclearization now here's something I don't know about this process if you have a working-level meeting about denuclearization does that indicate that the bosses have already decided in principle or is it reverse is it the working-level meeting that will try to produce something that the bosses meeting Trump and Kim jong-un can see so they can say yes or no which one of those do you think it is do you think the bosses said that has said yes and abroad abroad way and now they're working out the details or is it opposite the bosses haven't said anything because they're waiting for some details to percolate up it could go either way right could go either way here's some speculation I'm not sure

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here's some speculation I'm not sure I'll make this a prediction but here's a speculation the key sticking point seems to be from the start North Korea getting the security guarantees now that that's the language they use in whatever translated form they talk about North Korea getting some kind of security guarantee from the you know surrounding countries as well as meaning China South Korea and the United States being the important ones in the region so they could get some andrush I suppose they've got a little bit of a border with North Korea so here's the thing do you think that president Trump would ever offer that he could under the right conditions meaning that the nuclear program was you know more transparent do you think the president could ever give security guarantees in other words saying not only do we formally end the war with the Korean War

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formally end the war with the Korean War but we'll guarantee that will - will will help you with any of these other countries want to attack we've all agreed there will not do that or some version of that right do you think President Trump could ever offer security guarantees under the condition that we get what we need and that this verifiable and it's like a real deal not a not a PS deal I think he could I think he could I do believe that this president could say to Kim jong-un and here's the key their personal relationship was a necessary building block of being able to say I think we can give you security guarantees and have Kim jong-un believe it do you know what do you know what Qaddafi did not have the advantage of a personal relationship with the President of the United States

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think about how who Qaddafi was to us he was just sort of this you know nameless villain not nameless but use this villain we don't know personally and then think of what Kim jong-un is to president Trump they have actually a legitimate personal connection do you think that President Trump would be okay with killing Kim jong-un as long as things were moving in the right direction at whatever pace I mean it could be slowly but at whatever pace we're at least moving in the right direction do you think President Trump could ever approve of a situation where Kim jong-un is taken out no because it's not an hour it's not in our interest it wouldn't be consistent with their personal relationship again just assuming everything's moving in the right direction and it looks like it is so Kim jong-un Trump seemed to have solved for Qaddafi number one you get rid of Bolton because Bolton is the the guy who brought up the the Libyan model

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guy who brought up the the Libyan model in the first place right so you got to get rid of Bolton step one complete and then the other steps with ad in a personal relationship and they need they both need to show that something positive is happening so they can show their their their team that it's a productive relationship it's not an adversarial but has been transformed into some kind of mutually productive forward-looking arrangement I believe President Trump and Kim jong-un have pulled that off and it could be that this working-level meeting is actually a details meeting it could be that the big guys have said in principle we're not promising this yet but in principle if you could come up with some way we could really keep an eye on this nuclear program and feel safe about that there's a deal to be had I feel like maybe the big guys have agreed but we'll see could it be the other way too all right

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so we still don't know who the whistleblower is in this Ukrainian situation now I don't want to start a new rumor about who the whistleblower might be but I'm just gonna point out a fact again you can connect these facts any way you want I'm just gonna point out the fact Justin Trudeau has a lot of disguises that's all I'm saying we don't know who the whistleblower is but Justin Trudeau has a lot of disguises that's
all I'm saying connect the dots any way you want all right one of the things I love about the Trump administration is that it seems to be a two-way communication street there's a two-way communication that's always open between the presidency and the citizens in a way we've never seen before I was watching for example I was

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before I was watching for example I was watching the miniseries about Roger Ailes and in that and who knows how accurate this is but in that you saw that the who was it one of the guys working for the President Bush called Roger Ailes and asked him for his help essentially managing the news to be consistent with what the White House wanted and I thought I'll bet I'll bet before the Trump administration the best way you could describe the relationship between the government and the people is that the government would make decisions with their experts and with their advisers and with their lobbyists and everything else so the government would make decisions and then they would try to sell it to the people I feel like that that was a model up until Trump Trump has a superior model of dealing with the public now it may be someday in the future when historians look at it and go hey we didn't know it at the time

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and go hey we didn't know it at the time but that superior model let me give you an example the president is often mocked for having his TV on during the day quite a bit watching Fox News but also we know he watches CNN at least he's probably watched a little MSNBC so we know the president is sampling the news from the both sides whereas we imagine that the Bill Clinton or President Obama were reading The Wall Street Journal in The New York Times and Tony upscale magazines and things that would be a higher intellectual plane than mere television which of those two models gives you a better idea where the country is at which of those two models rapidly a be tests messages so you can see what's working in real time see how people react to it TV is the pulse of the country this president is doing the smart thing he's

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president is doing the smart thing he's watching the pulse he can see in real time somebody tries a message whether it's on you know fox or CNN and he can tell how it comes across you can tell how he feels about it you can ask the people in the room - usually people in the room a few president you can ask them what they think about it have that go over did that work maybe I'll try that so the president has created this this interactive real-time relationship with the press but it's better than that because the press often reacts to social media and vice versa right there's a symbiote symbiotic relationship social media and news government and the president the president this president has made those three things almost one unit of a machine whereas it used to be sort of a top-down Hey we're gonna try to make you guys do what we want do you not see examples where there are individuals on social media who come up with a good message a good approach a good meme for

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message a good approach a good meme for example carpe Noctem creates you know great memes and next thing you know the president's tweeting it so what we're seeing is something we've never seen before which is that and in individual voter just a citizen can have a good idea put it on social media or it could be just a good message or a good way of expressing something puts it on social media guess a bunch of likes gets a bunch of retweets it bubbles up somebody with a blue check notices it they retweet it maybe another blue check and then suddenly the Office of the President notices that there's a good message that's getting a lot of traction and then he uses it it's it's amazing the entire system of government has been completely rewritten by this president and it's one of those things you're gonna see in hindsight much clearer because when you're in it that you don't really have the same vision to be able to see it well while you're in it but I've never seen a more interactive

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I've never seen a more interactive approach let me give you an example here's a concrete example I mentioned the other day that there's something called the office of nuclear energy which you can follow a tactic of nuclear so the our government has a department that's promoting nuclear energy and has lots of information about the newest stuff and the newest test facilities and what's coming online now etc so apparently it's a newish Twitter account and I called attention to it because my attention was was drawn to it through March nighter are our resident nuclear advocate expert and so he called my attention to it and then I tweeted it their number of followers was just a couple thousand I forget the exact number but two or three thousand something like that followers in total that was the total attention

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in total that was the total attention they were getting today they have five thousand so two thousand people who were citizens who were interested in nuclear and and can be sort of weaponized as advocates because they they're people who had enough interest to follow this account and and I mention again which will again boost there it boosts their attention so you can see a concrete example where I tweeted them and their exposure roughly doubled I mean it was a small number but it doubled so you can see the effect that the public is boosting parts of the government that are productive and then that government does something for the people so it's it's this continual two-way virtuous cycle that I just don't know existed before it feels like it's really taken on a life of its own here's another example so earlier I was

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here's another example so earlier I was just talking about how there's a bipartisan bill to lower pharmaceutical costs well don't you think that knowing that because I just told a bunch of you don't you think that knowing that increases the chance that maybe it could happen right so there are lots of things that we the citizens on social media especially the blue check people who have a lot of followers we can boost the signal of anything worth worth boosting you know we can do it with a campaign ad I can do it with the the app to gov nuclear site I can do it with a bill I can do it with China I can do it with fentanyl so you can see that individuals are now sort of testing messages we know that the White House is watching they are watching at least the blue checks and you see you see the president's actually retweeted people were not even you know highly visible just people who

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you know highly visible just people who had a good idea that is just hugely inspirational to me because it feels like I don't want to take this you know too far into into optimism because you won't you won't be able to follow me there but it feels like almost a rebirth of the Republic too but too much is that too much it feels like a rebirth a reboot of the Republic because it seems to me that our founders built a pretty pretty darn good system you know given with what they to work with etc but is sort of evolved into things happening behind closed doors and you know the the lobbyists and the power brokers are the only the only people who have any power after a while doesn't it feel like that it feels now that under the age of Trump and who notice if this will last or not it feels like the public is completely empowered now completely who saw that coming not

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now completely who saw that coming not me I didn't see that coming it seems to me that an average citizen can today have as much power as an average citizen could have in the beginning of the Republic when things were so small that you probably knew where he you know you knew the other people in government you know you would know your governor you might know him personally because the world was so small there just weren't many people there during the the formation of the Republic but it feels like Trump gave well Trump and Jack Dorsey and you know Zuckerberg in a sense the the social media platforms in conjunction with this weird unusual president has created a situation that has empowered individuals in a way I've never seen it well let me give you an example if an individual came up with a terrific idea for gun control let's say would that individual

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control let's say would that individual be able to get that terrific idea to bubble up all the way to the White House absolutely I you I never would have said that and the other time would you just just fact-check me on this based on your observation you know this is more opinion than fact but based on what you've watched about the process based on the number of times you've seen an individual tweet bubble all the way up to the White House what a great idea from just a person make it all the way the White House absolutely absolutely that doesn't mean they'll use it because you know they get a lot of ideas and they know more than we do about you know the variables that are involved but absolutely a good idea from an individual we'll go right into the president's hands that's amazing that's amazing and and it can happen in 24 hours it's like it's a whole new world so I could not be more optimistic about the Republic because I

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optimistic about the Republic because I think the Republic went stale and instead of having to get refreshed with the blood of patriots because you know that the the founders the founders assumed that every now and then you got a what's the saying you got a you got a refresh the tree of freedom with the blood of patriots or something as luck would have it we've taken that warfare to the internet so there's blood of patriots but it's in the form of people getting ratio denied and losing their jobs because of social media so that stuff's still pretty bloody you know in a figurative sense but it looks like Patriots are weighing and and they're putting tons of energy people are putting their necks on the line I am you've watched me put my neck on the line repeatedly I take risks that you shouldn't take because I can afford it

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shouldn't take because I can afford it right made enough money that if I lost my job tomorrow I'd be fine so you get to watch me take some risks that I'm happy to take on your behalf because I can afford it and you can't so I'm happy to do that as a patriot and your support to me makes that meaningful right the fact that you support me in this collectively is what makes it doable so your individual sort of you know I would say love and support that you give to me that neither of those words are are too much I think allows me to to boost my voice and boost other people like the ones I mentioned so it's it's a good system as long as we have this president I hope president is as flexible because I'd hate to lose this it's pretty important all right the Washington Post has a hilarious article which i retweeted in

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hilarious article which i retweeted in which they're mocking the followers of President Trump for assuming that everything he does everything I say everything he does is genius as opposed to accidental flailing now they gave two examples of this I apparently there are some people who think the president cleverly wants to be impeached because it'll be good for his reelection now I'm not in that camp I'm pretty sure if the president had had a choice of being impeached or not being impeached he would choose not impeached I'm pretty sure that so if there's anybody out there who thinks it's the president and cleverly goading them into impeachment as in Azzam actually literally impeaching him I don't think that's his plan what I would say and and if you think that was his plan I think you're you're overthinking what I would say is that he's good at improvising in other

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that he's good at improvising in other words he's good at turning a bad situation into a good one you want to see an example what did everybody say about it Trump's a phone call to Ukraine they said hey you shouldn't have done that because you've offered an implied quid pro quo so how often did you hear quid pro quo about President Trump hey that phone call was a quid pro quo and now let me ask you this what's the new nickname for Joe Biden quid pro Joe this is actually a new nickname quid pro Joe
Joe so this president certainly did not have some long term plan where he would get accused of making a bad phone call and cleverly turned the complaint into a nickname for his biggest competitor but he did it that's what happened so I don't think there's any chance he saw it coming you know set a trap

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coming you know set a trap you know intentionally said things to get people calling using the phrase quid pro quo so he could turn it into a quid pro Joe but it happened so he took a situation and he capitalized on as we've seen them do over and over and over again grifter Joe oh I love you whoever just said grifter Joe my god I love that if ever if ever the word grifter could be used in a more perfect context grifter Joe now let's talk about oh and then the other example they said is people are saying that he does misspellings intentionally and I have to confess I'm probably the one I probably have to take responsibility for the fact that people think that he misspells

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that people think that he misspells intentionally I've personally I don't know if I've ever said he's misspelled intentionally maybe there was one time yeah there might be one time I suspected it but in general I would say the misspellings or nothing but misspellings they're typos misspellings autocorrect whatever here's what I think is the case he doesn't care he doesn't care and you know what that makes me care about well not his typos but the fact that he doesn't care and you know he doesn't care because he doesn't take the tweet back and correct it it would be easy just to take the tweet back correct reissue it it'd be easy he doesn't do it I frickin love that it went from oh you know it's kind of a it's not an optimal look I mean in the early days you see a typo or something a grammar error and say huh you know maybe maybe it would have been better if

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maybe maybe it would have been better if somebody looked at that before he sent that out but we've gotten to the point where it just seems genuine am i right when you see his typos what do you know for sure he sent it with his own fingers like he actually he probably almost certainly typed it with his own thumbs you're seeing the actual President of the United States the most important person in the world I think you could argue and you're seeing a message that you know damn well came from him and his two little thumbs and is what came right out of his brain I kind of love that I'm I don't think I could like that any more than I do so typos I'm all for them because they're little markers for authenticity that originally struck me as it'd be better without these but now that it's sort of just worked into a was somewhat

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sort of just worked into a was somewhat of an expectation that he'll have a misspelled word or something now and then I just look at them as authentic now it just looks like yeah I know where this came from it didn't didn't go through a committee that's for damn sure this came from the guy that you voted for it didn't come from his advisers didn't come from handlers came from the person you voted for I can't not love that really I can't and the other thing it does is that humanizes them in a way you can relate how many of you have sent out a tweet with a misspelling I did it twice yesterday I think one for sure but if I'm not mistaken I may have said how to misspelled tweets yesterday I may have be complete conflating with some in my mind but at least one so when I see the president to it I think it's authentic and I kind of bind I bond with him a little bit because I go I did that - I did same

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because I go I did that - I did same damn thing yesterday literally yesterday but I love the fact that the Washington Post wrote a story in which are trying to debunk the notion that the president is playing chess while others are playing checkers if you don't know I'm probably the author of that idea that he's playing 3d chess that was me back in 2015 saying that and people mocking me until he became president and now they're still mocking me indirectly but I think it's funny that they feel they need to complain about that because it feels like they're sensing there's too much truth in it maybe am I reading too much in there am i doing a little too much mind-reading that they wouldn't do an article about it if it wasn't getting to them in other words there's something about this situation that matters to them they need to know they need you to know he's not playing chess but if he's not playing chess could you

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but if he's not playing chess could you explain that - quid pro Joe because he probably thinks they are Oh quid pro Joe that's the best and by the way I think quid pro Joe is another example that bubbled up from just a Twitter user I don't know who it was but I think some Twitter user or somebody said it first and it was good so a bubble up that's your new republic right there it's amazing Chris ELISA has the funniest article that wasn't trying to be funny today Cristal is a-- as you know CNN I guess pundits slash analysts may be political guy so he's one of the top anti Trump errs I'm using anti Trumper to the core and he's I don't know if I'll ever stop laughing about this this is so funny so here's the article he was talking I tweeted this if you want to see it you just talk about there's a new

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just talk about there's a new Monmouth University poll in which they're asking people about the Ukraine transcript yeah the president's phone call with the president of Ukraine and has said that according to the modern southern Monmouth University poll just four and ten Republicans believe that the transcript even mentions Biden's name
sixty percent of Republicans don't think Biden's names even in the transcript now of course it is it's there twice as there clearly and unambiguously and it comes from the president's office himself so there's no there's no question on the facts the facts are as objective as any fact could be every single person who participated in the call in any way notice that Biden's name was mentioned and still six out of ten Republicans say that Trump never mentioned Biden whose call was less key

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mentioned Biden whose call was less key now it could be that the poll was worded in a way that people didn't know that's what they were answering exactly because there could have been something like without seeing the question it could have been do you think there was some quid pro quo with Biden or something so it's possible that I'm not seeing the full context of this but it is still hilarious and I'll tell you why that crystal is a-- is complaining they're six and ten people can't look in a transcript and see what's right before their eyes you know i that's funny because crystal is is one of the biggest pushers of the fine people hoax what would it take to debunk the fine people hoax the idea that the you know the conspiracy theory rumor that's not true the president Trump called the neo-nazis in Charlottesville find people what would it take to debunk that just read the transcript that's it just read it right there they he said the opposite if you read half the transcript you could be confused and that's what most people see but if you

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that's what most people see but if you read the full transcript there's no ambiguity whatsoever he clearly said I'm not talking about those people he said it directly I'm not talking about that and nobody even asked him to explain it he explained just to be clear I'm now talking about them all you have to do is read the transcript so one of the biggest pushers of the fake transcript in other words the idea that he did call then neo-nazis find people is CNN and Chris ELISA and so the tide is turned karma has come to visit and karma comes to visit and says well I don't even think Trump mentioned Biden fo girl all right so here's it gets even better this and this is crystallises comment to his own observation that six out of ten Republicans don't even see the name Biden in the transcript he goes with periods are period you period kidding period me period and then this Elizabeth

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period me period and then this Elizabeth goes on to say this listen to this he says this poll finding doesn't seem so unbelievable the primary work of Trump's candidacy and his presidency has been to erode the idea that a that objective truth exists so chrysalis of CNN says the president Trump has been working to erode the erode the idea that objective truth exists that's exactly what he's doing he's a roading the idea that objective truth exists is that bad well would depend wouldn't it would depend if objective truth exists if it doesn't exist well then it would be good that he's the president Trump is teaching us that objective truth doesn't exist if it does exist well then that would prep maybe be bad because that would be untrue right but in a real sense and

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untrue right but in a real sense and this is something I told you back in 2015 I predicted the Trump would change more than politics I said it directly publicly and multiple time I said that what he would change is your understanding of reality and you see it happening so Liz's understanding of reality is changing because he's lit he's saying how can it be that people could look at the transcripts and just not see the name Biden it's right there well how could you Christel is a-- think that the president called neo-nazis fine people when the transcript says clearly I'm not talking about them I said the opposite Chris ELISA has been introduced to subjective reality while working at a news news organization that's got to be that's got to be a mindfuck that's got to be that's got to be hard to process I work for an organization that puts out the objective truth which doesn't exist

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the objective truth which doesn't exist how do you process that i I don't work for a news organization so I can I can live comfortably in a world where objective truth isn't really a thing well how do you work for a news organization and believe objective truth doesn't exist what would that do to your mental health that's kind of be hard to process seriously now let me clarify I know there are a lot of science pedantic people out there who are gonna say Scott Scott Scott there is a base reality just because some people are fooled and can't see it that doesn't make the objective reality go away it's still there well I'll give you two answers to that doesn't matter because we don't use any objective reality to make our decisions so when I say it doesn't matter I'm talking about the realm of political decision-making objective reality doesn't seem to be much of a factor in

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doesn't seem to be much of a factor in anything you can see it on every topic people are all over the place on what they're seeing and they're looking at the same stuff there is no evidence of objective reality in terms of how we make decisions and how we process things but is there you ask still outside the realm of our ability to perceive it accurate all the time is there an actual objective reality maybe and maybe that R objective reality can affect your life if you walk in front of the truck whether or not you see the truck probably doesn't affect the fact that it will kill you so yes there's an objective reality in terms of there there might be a truck if you walk into it and it's gonna kill you even if you don't see it so that so in that sense yes but if you're trying to decide who what do I think about this Ukraine situation what did I think about Russia collusion what do I think about health care for everybody any any of these big political topics you're not

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these big political topics you're not using objective truth nobody else we're all just using our subjectivity and arguing that it's based on the objectivity but suppose were a simulation suppose our reality is a simulation under the simulation worldview is there an objective reality well yes there is but the objective reality is our programmers reality not ours our reality would be completely subjective it would act as though it's subjective in many cases again if you walk in front of the truck it could be a simulated truck but your simulated self is going to get killed by the simulated truck so yeah in some sense there's an objective reality but in terms of our filters on the world we can't really see it in any reliable way so that was the understanding reality that I said would change we see this happening in stark in real time in a very stark way where you

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real time in a very stark way where you see that people can literally look at the same document a document no longer than this they can look at it and some of them won't even see names that are on it they won't even be able to see sentences they actually their ability to see objective reality is so weak that they're inventing it on the fly all right this is something else that SaLuSa claims he says so this is a CNN claim okay there are zero evidence that the whistleblower in the Ukraine story is a partisan do you agree with that because I think your news sources most of you is telling you that that's just the fact that we know that the whistleblower is a partisan have you seen evidence of that what's the evidence of that do you believe that it's a fact that the whistleblower is a partisan I believe is possible I also

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partisan I believe is possible I also believe that I have never seen evidence of it have you have you ever seen evidence that the whistleblower was a partisan I've heard people say there is evidence but I haven't seen it does that blow your mind because I'll bet you've watched news reports to say oh yeah it's he's a partisan well he might be if I had to put my own money on it I'd bet it on it right if he had to bet you'd bet he was a partisan but where's the evidence the IC IG report stated he was a partisan but where's the evidence now so I'm not going to say that the CNN report is true but when somebody says where's the evidence and I say to myself a lot I don't know I haven't seen it either I've only heard it reported that he is now I would say if the IC IG report says he's a partisan it's very likely he is but I

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a partisan it's very likely he is but I would still want to see the evidence wouldn't you I'd want to see the evidence so I wouldn't say there's zero evidence I would say you know I I could use a little more support on that point [Music] yeah let's say the other thing that oh the other thing that solicit says there's no evidence for he says specifically independent fact checkers don't give credence to the idea that Joe Biden called for the firing of Ukraine's top prosecutor to avoid an investigation into a son so CNN is reporting that there's no evidence that the reason Joe Biden called for that firing of the Ukraine prosecutor is to avoid an investigation into a son have you seen evidence to the contrary I haven't I haven't where is the evidence that that's why he did it I'm not saying he didn't do it for that reason I'm just saying okay I haven't seen the

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I'm just saying okay I haven't seen the evidence either is it evidence that he went golfing with a board member and that really it's not really evidence of anything there's an evidence that I don't III would agree with this fact that I would agree with the statement that the fact checkers are not buying into Joe Biden doing it you know to get the investigator off his son but I don't think that matters to the story too much somebody says the video the video is not evidence the visit the video is not evidence that he did it because of his son
son the video is evidence they did it well we don't have his evidence of why all right but I don't think any of that matters because the hunter Biden was taking a lot of money from a Ukrainian entity well as well as dad was vice president doesn't really matter what Joe Biden did okay it kind of doesn't matter what Joe Biden did or did not do with

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what Joe Biden did or did not do with the prosecutor it's sort of irrelevant because you have all the badness you would ever need just the fact this son was taking all this money from the Ukrainian entity while the vice president's portfolio including Ukraine and then there was also the issue of hunter Biden went with his dad to some China event and met with a banker and gossip got a deal with some bankers in China wall on a trip with his father was a sitting vice president come on the so what the president said if you saw this part which was really good by the way did you see the president look in the camera I think it was yesterday and he said as strongly as you've ever heard him say anything he looked directly in the camera and he said Joe Biden is a stone-cold crook there's stone-cold crooked you know it and I know it did you see him say that that was really good in terms of persuasion because it looked

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terms of persuasion because it looked different from other things that people say about politics when somebody says blah blahs a racist your brain automatically says maybe yes maybe no just sounds like something that people say in politics if somebody says somebody's crooked like Hillary maybe - maybe false sounds like something you say in politics somebody says somebody's incompetent somebody's crazy somebody's impulsive somebody's dumb all of those things you automatically put your your political filter on don't you you just say yeah maybe maybe that's something said by a political opponent so you filter it but when President Trump looked at the camera and said Joe Biden is stone-cold crooked you know it and I know it that didn't sound like politics did it that felt like he has broken the fourth wall

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felt like he has broken the fourth wall or something you know that's not quite it but that looked like that looked like reality peeking through the politics it looked like he believed that to be stone-cold true and and he was selling it pretty well now again I'm not saying it's true but I'm saying that the way he said it was I don't know that that's a 10 out of 10 for sound incredible even if it isn't true it really sounded like he believed it and he knows you believe it and here's what I believe every one of us sees Hunter Biden taking that money every one of us thinks it's crooked even the Democrats right even the media there's nobody in the media was defending hunter Biden is her so when Trump looked at the camera and said he's stone-cold crooked that's an amazing turn of words I mean I don't know if that was spontaneous or he

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don't know if that was spontaneous or he thought about it a little bit but those are
are those are daggered words that's like stab stab stab stone cold crooked and your debt and then we said you know it and I know it that's like the next level of persuasion because one of the the main strongest parts of persuasion is when you say was somebody else's thinking as they're thinking it if you can ever do that it really gives you like a super power for a persuasion so he said if he had said I believe it and the public believes that that's politics that's weak but when you look at the Cameron you say you know it and I know it that's persuasion all right when you when you tell somebody what they know that's a gold-plated a plus persuasion if it's true or you have to actually has something they actually know to be true or it doesn't work anyway so I got some

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or it doesn't work anyway so I got some I have some questions about you know what is the the truth of all the Joe Biden stuff but we don't have to wonder about the hundred Biden stuff that that part looks crooked on just on the surface you don't have to dig into any details to know that that's there's something wrong going on there all right as I've said before it looks to me oh and then you're something that somebody on Twitter asked when I tweeted that around somebody said is there evidence Ukraine didn't know the funds were delayed that's interesting right because how can it be a quid pro quo phone call the president's phone call with Ukraine if as it's being reported the Ukrainians didn't know that their funding was being held up they weren't even aware of it so if you're not even aware of the threat part even existing how could you

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part even existing how could you possibly receive the phone call is quid pro quo and I thought good point so I'm not sure any of the facts really matter because we'll make our decisions without them less that's what's going on all right
Biden has a history blah blah blah Biden son is not crooked but not good optics either well it depends on your definition of crooked if crooked means illegal then I would agree the hunter Biden has not done anything that I've heard of that's illegal besides yeah besides of his personal life perhaps that's another story but but wouldn't you call it crooked I mean I would call it crooked on premise is is this a legal term I heard something lawyer say it was it I forget who said

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lawyer say it was it I forget who said it but prime of prima facie prime of a promise from a facial or something the oddest surface is obviously crooked you don't really need to dig any deeper you just look at and say okay well that's crooked seems that way to me but legal probably perfectly legal but still crooked there's it was an article in a reason reason calm talking about nor cam I think it's called there's a drug that you can take if you if somebody has a fentanyl overdose and apparently it works really well so if some of the overdoses on fentanyl or in there during the process of overdosing and they're gonna die if you give them this Norcom drug apparently it revives them and works really well and there are lots of success stories that people have done that and I guess it's not available

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done that and I guess it's not available over except by asking the the pharmacist so you have to ask for it at the counter now imagine just here's the situation there are drug addicts or likely to have a problem with fentanyl remember they're drug addicts and in order to get the thing that could save their life they have to talk to the pharmacist and their town probably do you want to do that if you're a drug addict do you want to talk to the pharmacist about your drug addiction maybe not maybe not so the idea is that maybe this narcan could be available from vending machines and some method that would allow you to avoid human contact to get it because if you're a drug addict you want might want to keep that to yourself right and I thought to myself that is so common sensical and apparently there's some law that prevents that from happening yeah cops have it for example they carry

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yeah cops have it for example they carry it with them I think in many cases but not every case but many cases they have it with them it seems to me that's another simple tweak like why in the world if you can simply ask for it and a pharmacist can give it to you you know it's that safe it's not a regulated thing apparently why not get it from a vending machine you know why not get it from Amazon of course in that case your name would be on the record you might not want that but a vending machine is perfectly anonymous right assuming you can use cash in it I guess all right so there are plenty of good ideas out there to fixing the world remember I told you that the Golden Age which we are entering will be defined by simply having to design better systems what's a better system for pharmaceuticals transparency and we've got a bipartisan bill to give us that that would be a better system what's the better system for the Republic the president gets ideas as they bubble up

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president gets ideas as they bubble up from the public a that's happening now our our system has evolved on its own nobody did it intentionally but we evolved to a fairly good system where the public and their president are quite quite connected and they communicate every day so there are a lot of good systems and I would say nuclear energy is another one of those I just I tweeted round I think I tweeted it maybe I just liked it an article by Steven Pinker talking about what needs to be done to store nuclear waste in at a Safeway now that skipping the details the bottom line is we know how to do it we know how to store nuclear waste and we're developing even better ways and we could use it for fuel if we develop the right kind of reactors etc so that again is a design problem we simply have to design all right I'm

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simply have to design all right I'm gonna have to get this so I'm gonna talk to you later but think about design bye for now [Music]