Episode 680 Scott Adams: Word-News (Not World News), Gangster Dog Whistles, Hillary’s Odds, China

Date: 2019-10-01 | Duration: 50:06

Topics

My new book LOSERTHINK goes on sale 11/5. Pre-order: https://bit.ly/2NRammu “Gangster talk”? 47% of Americans now support impeachment…but why? Steve Bannon says Hillary is running again…but why? Rosie O’Donnell’s Twitter poll says 80% want impeachment Sam Harris CORRECTS guest pushing “fine people” HOAX China continues to grind away on Hong Kong Soft decoupling from China Trump administration considering a form of reparations Delancey Street Foundation’s addict recovery program http://delanceystreetfoundation.org Anti-Drone “bubble defense” system for our southern border

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that is my cat making scratching noises she's happily ripping up my Hasek over on the other side of the room boom will you leave the Hasek alone please just leave that sounds like a no okay there won't be much left of that by the time I'm done I know why you're here yep you came for the simultaneous that coffee with Scott Adams came to the right place grab a seat grab grab a container all you need is a cup or a mug or glasses Stein the chalice of Tiger two thermos a flask of can't eat a grill a goblet a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the simultaneous sip the dopamine yup that gets your body going makes everything better go now it's all working so let's talk about the news do

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working so let's talk about the news do you remember when there used to be thing called world news wo rld it was news in other words events that were happening around the world but now we don't have world news we have word news wor d have you noticed that the news has just turned into arguing about words let me give you an example in this Ukraine situation did President Trump ask an ally to assist in a legal matter or did the president push bully and blackmail we're describing the same set of events if the president asked an ally to help with a legitimate legal investigation there's no news that's nothing wouldn't that be sort of

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that's nothing wouldn't that be sort of ordinary for one country to ask another for assistance of a legal investigation no news but how do you turn that in no news into news well it's through the magic of words all you do is change what I said into black bailed pushed he bullied he bullied is a bully did he ask for a favor or was he using his secret gangster talk at the same time as his secret dog whistle now you know what the gangster talk is right so this is what the Democrats are saying about the president uses gangster talk now gangster talk you don't say exactly what you want because that's understood so Miley might be something like it should be terrible if something happened to your business that would be gangster talk the gangsters not saying I'm going to destroy your business it's rather

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destroy your business it's rather assumed in the way way the words are chosen but the president has sort of a double difficulty because according to the Democrats he's always talking with a secret racist dog whistle but also sometimes with a gangster talk and you add that together with what they think is his impulsiveness and mental problems that they assume he has and if you put those together you know either one of them by themselves would make sense so here's let me give you here's my impression of the secret racist dog whistle you ready I hope you could hear that because if you could you're a racist so that's the secret dog whistle there but then the gangster talk is there oh nothing happens to your business so sometimes you'll have to combine them because you might want to sound super

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because you might want to sound super racist at the same time you threatening somebody so you put them together and it's like you know nothing happens to your business and there you've got the the racist talk the secret double racist signal and it's overlapped with the gangster talk and then you could have both of them at the same time so that's what the Democrats are saying and it looks to be like everything that we're seeing is word news now I'm going to introduce a rule of thumb are you ready this would be a rule of thumb that I'm not going to say is predictive yet it's something I've got my eye on and I'm going to watch it for a few years to see if it's predictive and it goes like this if there's an event in the news that everybody agrees on the facts but

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everybody agrees on the facts but they're using different words to describe it and some of those words make you sound like it's terrible but other words that also describe it accurately make it sound not so terrible it's probably not terrible that's my rule now I'm not sure yet if that's predictive I'm just sort of noticing the pattern for the first time so kind of keep an eye on that just track that for a while see if it see if it seems to be predictive or not this is not scientific of course but it feels to me that if there's anything that we're all seeing and we agree on the factual part yes there was a phone call yes the president said these words you know that sort of thing we agree on the facts if if you could describe that in the innocent language without lying all right there's no lie to the following thing I'm going to say the president spoke to an ally and asked the Ally to help on a legal matter that has great

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help on a legal matter that has great importance to the country true that's an accurate description of of what he did another description would be that he blackmailed and bullied an ally to help him win re-election those they seem to match the facts I mean it's the same set of facts but one of them is a crime or a crime ish or treasonous or just bad form or something and the other one is just president doing what presidents do just doing his job I think if you have a problem that can be described in ordinary words as well as extraordinary words can I have to favor the ordinary explanation all right I see that Democrats are quite happy because the number of people both GOP and Democrats who were in favor of impeachment or at least the impeachment

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impeachment or at least the impeachment process is way up 47 percent so 40 percent of 7 percent including a number of Republicans have moved over to the impeachment preferences side is that what you think it is now listen I don't know for sure yet but this might not be what you think it is here's why I also kind of want an impeachment I'm not I don't want the president removed but I kind of dig the idea of an impeachment because I think it's gonna be interesting and I think the president will win by the biggest landslide any president ever won by if there's an impeachment because I don't see any chance that the Senate will then you

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chance that the Senate will then you know vote to make it any kind of a job losing situation but impeachment is starting to feel like deplorable to me it started down as the worst thing that could ever happen Oh impeachment my god that would be the worst thing that ever happened but maybe it's my imagination but it seems to be morphing into just a stupid thing that Democrats say that helps the president raise funds because he raised a whole bunch of money for his reelection and probably will lead to a landslide as well as turning over the Congress to the Republicans I feel like when people answer that question do you want an impeachment some people say hell yeah I want that guy impeached but I wonder if there aren't other people like me who say some version of this yeah love that impeachment mmm try it try it see what happens see what

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try it try it see what happens see what happens so it would be hard to parse that out and find out why people say what they want I think some people say well if there's an impeachment then everybody gets asked questions and the whole world will see what's happening and that will be good for the president it's just add transparency to an Akey process why not can you think of any other president besides Bill Clinton I suppose who could get impeached and it would help him think about it is there any other president who could get impeached and it would end up helping him maybe not he might be the only one so this is another example of being careful about what history repeats because why which history is gonna repeat is it gonna be the Nixon history or the Bill Clinton history they're kind of different right so every time anybody says history

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so every time anybody says history repeats or they they make an appeal to history repeating even if they don't use the words I always say maybe not because history doesn't repeat somebody else is Hillary running and so I guess Steve Bannon was on what the trish regan show and he said i want to get his exact quote he said that Hillary Clinton is running again and quote trying to decide how to fit her way in do you believe that do you believe that the Hillary is running and she's trying to figure out how to insert yourself in the process
here's what I believe I believe Steve Madden holds people who think that all

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right every time I see Steve ban and say everything I art to laugh because you know he's playing on a different level right there's no way that Steve Danon thinks I don't think anyway I don't believe I'm not really his mind so here I'm in speculative territory here could be wrong could be wrong but I think when Steve Berra says Hillary Clinton is running again that that's for the benefit of just messing with the Democrats what happens to your funding if you're let's say your Elizabeth Warren and the rumor comes around the Hillary might be running what happens to your funding it dries up because people who have big money who think Hillary might run they're gonna hold onto their money it's so clever Steve Danon I tell you Steve man it might be the most underrated mind in all of politics because I think most people just looked

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because I think most people just looked at this as a surface thing it's like wow Steve Bana and he's usually right about a lot of stuff and he thinks Hillary Clinton is running again and she's just trying to shoot her way in well maybe he thinks that it's not impossible you might actually think that but I'll tell you what makes sense it's a real good way to mess with the Democrats it's a really good way in fact you would be hard-pressed to find a better way to mess with the Democrats than to say you're pretty sure Hillary is getting back in the game it's just wonderfully its wonderfully effective so kudos to Steve Bannon for the play of the day and if you want my opinion there isn't the slightest chance that Hillary's running but I love I love from the persuasion you know sort of political dirty tricks perspective that he said that he put it out there like it's real Rosie O'Donnell ran a

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like it's real Rosie O'Donnell ran a little Twitter poll now Twitter polls of course are not scientific you just get your own whoever follows you on twitter are the ones who answer so it's not very scientific and she asks how many people think Trump should be impeached and she got 89 percent to say Trump should be impeached and I thought to myself that's a perfect snapshot of of why we don't agree on reality because the people who follow Rosie as one would expect 90% of them think the president should be impeached so Rosie probably lives in a bubble in which she thinks oh sure you know I know it's just my followers answering this question but it's probably true that at least 70 percent or 75 percent want the president to peach isn't that true it must be no Rosie you're living in a little bubble and we're all in our own bubbles but when you read my book that loser thing comes out in a few weeks

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loser thing comes out in a few weeks maybe it will help you out one of the most fun pieces of news today is that there's a Sam Harris podcast in which he actually corrects one of his guests who brings up two fine people hoax so one of his guests states as fact that the president said that the neo-nazis were fine people Sam Harris waits until the guests finishes his point and then fact checks them and tells them that in fact there were there was violence on both sides and the president did call it out and he also called out that the president condemned the racist and neo-nazis in that same statement that his guest was referring to so in other words he fact checked him on the fine people hoax did you see that coming for those of you don't know there's a little history to this I appeared on sim Harris's podcast 2017

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I appeared on sim Harris's podcast 2017 2016 I'm forgetting the exact date but it was after Trump had been elected and say I'm was still in the Trump is going to ruin everything mode and I came on his show to be the voice of reason on the pro Trump side if you can put it that way and we had a very civil conversation which as you might imagine everybody who was anti Trump said Sarah Maris mopped the floor with Scott because of his superior intellect and all of his good points and then of course everybody who is more favorably disposed toward my opinions said that I completely dominated in one day with my clever points and clearer insights now of course neither of those things is true probably it's probably more true people just took sides with whoever they agreed with but I said at the time you

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agreed with but I said at the time you know after after the interview I said at the time that this was not a normal interaction in the sense that Sam Harris is not a normal pundit or normal observer or normal intellect he's not normal I mean that in a good way he is capable of changing his mind based on data and facts and you know logic and reason and all that stuff how many people do you know have you ever seen changed their mind on anything important it's like really rare so somebody's gonna have to fact-check me but I think we talked about the fine people hopes on there and I think I debunked it on that show I'm a little off on my chronology so I think it had already happened and that was part of the topic but the point is that I I said at the time that Sam Harris would would come to understand at least the pro-trump perspective and

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least the pro-trump perspective and that you would he would find his way out of Trump derangement syndrome which from the observers perspective looked like what was happening now I'm not going to declare that anybody's in or Ana for Trump derangement syndrome but I would say that is a gigantic intellectual accomplishment for him it's so rare to see somebody take a position that is based on logic and rationality and and disagrees with is what you would say would be his side you know whether he whether he labels it that way or not I'm not sure but it's rare I just want to call it out and and show him some respect for that now of course he still has harsh opinions about Trump on a number of areas but at least those are based on solid observation solid opinion solid preference about how ways things should go I have a completely different

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should go I have a completely different opinion about those things because those are opinions everybody everybody can have one but being able to change your mind or at least have clarity on something that your entire team believes is true but the facts say is false it's very rare I just have to call that out and complement it China continues to grind away at Hong Kong if you know the the news has started to get repetitive I'm getting a little bored with the Hong Kong news and that's not a good thing because remember China has the log game they're just gonna grind away on Hong Kong until they get everything they want might take a year might take a month might take 25 years but China is going to get what they want out of Hong Kong one way or another they can do it the slow way the fast way I would say there

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slow way the fast way I would say there haunt the Hong Kong situation could be a good proxy for whether we should do any kind of trade deal with China versus decoupling now decoupling means doesn't mean you do it today it just means you stop you stop coupling so there are things that are in China that probably would stay there in other words manufacturing and stuff so there's some things that are too hard to decouple and I wouldn't have a big problem with any company who said I will go out of business if we move our plant we can't do that I would say okay I get that but you saw that Apple just decided to build one of their McIntosh plants in Texas so they chose America as their place to build what does Texas have a lot of immigrants so that might be a perfect solution so I would like to also compliment Apple because I think Apple

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compliment Apple because I think Apple made the right choice now I don't know the economics I don't know if they left any money on the table by not putting the production offshore maybe they did maybe they did they may have left some money on the table by bringing it home but was it the right choice absolutely absolutely when I when I saw that the president actually tweeted it cuz he was pretty happy about it when I saw the Apple had decided that they would build this Factory in America my immediate reaction was I wanted to go buy something from Apple I just didn't need anything if I had needed anything I would have actually picked up my device you know at amazon.com or whatever and I would have bought an Apple product I'm that happy with them because if they're on my team they're supporting America in addition to supporting theirs - oh and by the way I should say I own Apple stock so I have the sizeable chunk of Apple stock so I'm not objective I want to I always forget

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not objective I want to I always forget to mention that sort of thing I'm not very professional that way but I do own stock I'm just a stockholder of Apple so I would like them to do well and this was certainly an example of them doing well for the country and I think you should help them as a product I think we should we as buyers and remember I'm a stockholder so not I'm not I'm biased here we as consumers should say that's that's a checkbook that's a checkmark in your favor Apple maybe if you're on the fence they should push you over to buy their products anyway my point about Hong Kong is that I think Hong Kong needs to be one of the major triggers about whether we ever sign a deal with China I don't believe we should sign any kind of a trade deal with China ever as long as the Hong Kong situation is going against Hong Kong because they're violating a major

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because they're violating a major business agreement by doing that you can't do a deal with somebody who's violating a big public agreement of that importance right in front of the world that's not a country you can do business with because they have not demonstrated the minimum requirement of doing business which is some amount of predictability if they make a deal they'll stick with it that they're doing the opposite but the other thing of course I say this all the time is as long as they're big fentanyl dealers are alive and we know their names and we know where they live and they're free people you can't do it you can't do a deal with that country that's a country you cannot do business with you have to decouple so where Apple gets kudos for a building in America if you hear of any company this is mine my offer to you if you hear of any company who is making a new decision not a decision that's already in the pipeline you know because

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already in the pipeline you know because it's hard to take things back when she once you get going and I would I would understand that that the company has some duty to their shareholders etc but if you hear somebody makes a new decision that's not already in the pipeline to move production to China would you let me know just let me know tweet at me send be an email because I might be part of the solution to embarrassing them to change their mind
so look for that there may or may not be a upcoming Sunday Dilbert cartoon in which Dilbert's company talks about moving production to elbonia and Dilbert might be reminding the boss about albinius bad track record of horrible horrible things some people are gonna say themselves that looks a lot like China in there to which I say that's not China that's elbonia I don't know why you're talking about why would you say that

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talking about why would you say that elbow knee is like China just because elbonia is shipping lots of illegal drugs to this country and killing people but why would you say that's like China why would you say just cuz in the comic I say yo Bodie it doesn't keep their deals why would you say that's like China I'm talking about elbonia if you're gonna make it about China that's on you but the elbow nians maybe building concentration camps and moving their dissidents into it that's what the oboe nians do don't don't conflate this with what the Chinese are doing I'm only talking about elbonia alla Bonilla is a bad bad place sending drugs building concentration camps to put their people in it the dissenters I mean Bell Bonilla is just a bad bad place and they don't keep their deals they steal intellectual property did you know that el Bonilla steals intellectual property so in the world of Dilber el Bonilla is no longer a place that that you can

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no longer a place that that you can invest because of all those things they're doing now here's something you don't know so he says I'm confused now here's something you don't know for decades managers and CEOs have written to me and said some version of this by email usually damn you Scott I was planning to introduce a program or a policy and I saw you mocking it in a Dilbert comic and now I can't do it because you've made a laughingstock of my plans now usually they're laughing when they say it but I really did actually make them cancel their plans that's a real thing I've been hearing it for years and years and years the power of mocking cannot be understated so I now have a comic about Al Bonilla but I could see how some people would incorrectly think it's about China I don't know what you're

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about China I don't know what you're thinking but I could imagine that when that comic is published I think it's in a month or something when that comic is published I could imagine people sending that to their boss if their boss decides to invest in China because they might say this is sort of thing a person might say hey look at this comic about del Bonilla does it remind you of anything you're doing because if you do it you can't say you weren't warned can't say you didn't know what you were doing so in my view the movement of manufacturing to China from the United States is probably done and I don't think you need to decouple hard in terms of just closing plants and moving them back because that's expensive and we don't need to shoot ourselves in the foot to to do what we need to do we simply need to do a soft decoupling so

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simply need to do a soft decoupling so the soft decoupling is that it is now toxic for any manufacturing entity from the United States to move into China if they're making the decision based on current and knowledge it's going to be toxic and trust me I'm gonna keep it toxic so we got that going on pasture if you evangelical pastor Robert Jeffress from Texas he warned that if Trump were successful were successfully removed from office civil war would follow and President Trump tweeted that out civil war would follow so CNN runs an opinion piece in which the opinion ATAR says this this is just part of it in the world of white power what in the world of white power in the world of white power I

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power in the world of white power I didn't know I was in the world of white power but okay we're a civil war is a race war what what why would a civil war be a race war whose idea is that is there anybody talking about a race or I mean there's a race war in terms of you know people talking on television but are you and your neighbors getting getting tense with each other you know is your is your coworker who's a different ethnicity are you are you getting into it maybe it's my turn violent no no there's nothing like that happening in the real world nothing not even the the slightest amount of it if there were ever to be a civil war it's gonna be you know conservatives Republicans against left-leaning people was definitely not gonna be a race or what what Republican

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gonna be a race or what what Republican was a race war the crazy ones the you know there's crazy people on both sides I'm sure you could find a crazy Democrat and a crazy Republican you know three or four of them want to go off and have a race war with each other but count me out count me out if there's a race war can I can I can I opt out now there's no freaking way this country's citizens want a race war or would participate in one yeah they're a crazy you know mass shooters so we're gonna do things and have they'll have their manifestos and stuff sure sure that's gonna happen can't stop the crazy people from doing creative what crazy people do but seriously we are so far from our race war in this country why because we don't want one nobody wants one zero people want a race war zero only just crazy people and nobody listens to them anyway so the thought

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listens to them anyway so the thought that there's some actual risk of a race war in this country is so disconnected from the ground you know from real people and if you haven't got a real person wants a race war it's ridiculous there's no real person who wasn't race or unless that person is also batshit crazy yeah those people exist but not normal people you need a lot of normal people to think it's a good idea before it's going to happen that's not going to happen so did you notice that the Trump administration is backing our reparations for slavery I'm just gonna leave that there for a moment why you didn't notice you didn't notice that the Trump administration strongly backed reparations I'm just leaving that there for a moment while you while you chew on it and people are saying what I missed

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it and people are saying what I missed that story yes she did you missed that story let me tell you that story so apparently the Trump administration I don't know where this is in terms of becoming real versus a proposal so it's somewhere in that somewhere in the pipeline is the idea that historically black colleges would be fully funded by the government in other words those historically black colleges so my understanding is there several I don't know how many there are deserve fewer than 12 can somebody give me a number on that it's like a handful plus something like that of these colleges that are historically black meaning that you don't have to be black to go to these colleges of course because we don't have you know racial requirements for college but traditionally they had been black only colleges they have evolved to really good institutions I hear and they

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really good institutions I hear and they have mostly black students and the government the Trump administration has decided to at least push the idea of fully funding them I don't know how approved that is but I can't imagine the Democrats disagreeing right now I will take you back to a proposal that I made some time ago in writing I said reparations in any kind of a normal way where you write a check from some part of the citizens to another part of the citizens could never work there there's no there's no scenario oh by the way the foot the full funding for the historically black colleges wasn't the only thing there was also some some kind of program to help low-income people in general so you wouldn't have to be black to go to a black college and you wouldn't have to be black to take advantage of the other stuff that they're proposing for helping the low-income people go to college

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low-income people go to college anyway back to my point I'd suggest that that there might be some way to do something that looks like reparations without it being the ugly kind where you're just writing a check because nobody's ID just wouldn't work and that would cause social unrest and I suggested there one way to do it might be for a special tax on the rich let's say top 1% which I would be so I am recommending taxing myself here to make something like a 25 year commitment that if you're black you can go to college for free and the idea is that you put a 25 year time on it so that says this is not forever we we expect this to time out but for one generation or so you would make sure that if you wanted an education you knew how to get it and you could afford it now I also said that you can't do that either unless you're also making sure that low-income people of every ethnicity are

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low-income people of every ethnicity are getting helped as well so what you see is that there's a little focus on the historically black colleges but remember you don't have to be black to go there so other people can go there and they would be fully funded as I understand the probe and in addition they would have these other programs that no matter what color you are you also could get help going to college so collectively I would say that the Trump administration is implementing reparations because it is exactly I think it's exactly what I recommended out in a year or two ago as the only way to sort of finesse the situation that is hard to finesse now I don't think that the administration could or should ever sell it to the base as reparations that would be politically unwise but in terms of addressing the same psychological and financial and very real

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financial and very real you know disparities that have happened because of historical reasons I think that's a pretty reasonable way to go because education this is a doorway for success for everybody and even if you can't get into college knowing that other black people did get into college is going to create more jobs you know they're going to start companies they're going to be another way another source for people to get jobs etc so while you weren't paying attention the Trump administration basically just wrapped up the black vote not in terms of getting a majority of them but they have an argument now that they've done more for the black community than any maybe anybody except on Lyndon Johnson or something am I wrong because if you look at the first step act you know is that what it's called the helping people get out of college I'm sorry get out of jail and get

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I'm sorry get out of jail and get trained and then you add that to the support for the historically black colleges along with support for you know everybody to get a better education that's pretty solid stuff it's pretty solid how would you like to be Elizabeth Warren running against that when you already have such low african-american support tell me tell me what Elizabeth Warren did for the black community how about nothing I mean loud maybe she did I shouldn't say that let me let me back up to a factual statement that I can that I can actually support because maybe she did as a senator or as a lawyer or something she may have done a lot I don't know but in terms of running for president the president's got a good-looking portfolio now right unemployment looking great right the the jail first act is the first step act looks great historical black colleges

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looks great historical black colleges it's looking pretty strong all right could he do more maybe now you've also noticed that there seems to be a stark reduction in police shootings of unarmed black men it could be just a coincidental lull it could be because the news is covering things differently it could be because the police are finding better smarter ways to avoid violence I don't know why but there aren't at the moment any high profile stories of that kind where people people rally around his story and we're kind of story free at the moment if you say to yourself what's the last story that was sort of a black versus white story it turned out to be a fake story there was a twelve-year-old girl who told the story of her white classmates held her down and cut off her dreadlocks became a national story and then her parents recently came out and said no she made the whole thing up now

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said no she made the whole thing up now first of all respect to the parents thank you thank you parents for doing what you do to make the world a better place so the parents of this girl stand up citizens I mean I only know about this one thing but that's that is worthy of your respect that they correct it or wrong unambiguously they just corrected it boom no no ambiguity they just fixed it boom all right so expect to the parents but that's the story that's the last story you you heard that was sort of a national story about black versus white I think it's a made-up problem you know once you hear once years say I'm heresay yeah the the President did condemn the racist it's being reported wrong essentially so you hear that and then let me ask you this now that we're talking about a little Disick you crane stuff hasn't the racist thing just

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crane stuff hasn't the racist thing just sort of going away what do you notice that people are not doing the the racist attack on the President as their main attack because they got this little Ukraine thing so let me ask you this if anything that the Republic that the Democrats have thought about the president being racist if any of that were true why weren't they pushing for for impeachment on that would it not be sufficient if you had an actual racist in office would it not be sufficient to impeach based on that you know it would of course it would of course it would see because remember impeachment is a political process and certainly supporting you know if they believed it were true they were supporting white supremacist you could you could pretty reasonably come up with a case for impeachment I think but the reason that is not a case for impeachment and it's not even on the list is because it

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not even on the list is because it wouldn't hold up to scrutiny the thing that they have with this Ukraine situation is that they believe they have the facts on their side that's why they're focusing on this because they're saying we can prove he made a phone call and we can prove he asked for something and we can prove that the that the funds were being withheld during that time so finally they have something that although it's subject to interpretation what was going on at least there are actual facts so they this is the best case they've ever had and it's completely empty and stupid and void of reason so ask yourself how solid was the he's a white supremacist talking about the president how solid was that attack that they've abandoned it completely for this ridiculous Ukraine thing that there isn't any chance in the world the president is gonna be removed for office for that I mean really none right just think about it how did how does their

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think about it how did how does their belief that the president is literally a racist how did that just go away how how is that the not the top thing you're worrying about every day well if it were real you'd be worrying about it every day but they know it isn't real they know that all right I tweeted a link to an organization in San Francisco called Delancey Street it's the Delancey Street foundation you can see it in my Twitter Delancy de la MC e Y we have a model for treating addicts in which they have basically they built a city within a city and my understanding is you probably can't leave you know without some kind of conditions but you check yourself in it's voluntary and you're taught a trade but they keep you there for like four years so getting into the Delancey Street could be a four-year commitment

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Street could be a four-year commitment on average I think you know you could stay there different amounts of time because it's voluntary but people will stay there for years voluntarily because they're learning a trade or two they there's a little bunch of trades that they teach up but they also teach them how to live together without without using and it seems to be one of the more successful programs so my ex-wife Shelley who lost her son to addiction to and fentanyl was in his body we don't know you know the exact mix of chemicals but if you die of a drug or to overdose and you have fentanyl in your body well it's probably the fence probably not the beer
she so Shelly my ex-wife did a fundraiser a GoFundMe that's completed now yeah it was she raised I think about $11,000 for Delancey Street and she went down there and presented it on the anniversary of my stepsons death now

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anniversary of my stepsons death now they run I think entirely by donations I think I don't believe that they charge anybody to be there which is also part of the magic because if you're an addict what are the chances you can afford 30,000 a month for an addiction treatment pretty low so Delancey Street has been around since I think the early 70s I knew about them when I lived in San Francisco in the 70s yeah they were always they were always spoken of with reverence I've been hearing about them for literally however many years that is from the 70s but whenever I hear about them is with reverence I have not heard and now I'm not the expert but I've never heard any any critique of their method except that obviously not every addict can be cured but there now after decades of running they've refined their model apparently and they're starting to clone it so they're cloning their their

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clone it so they're cloning their their whole system if you will and it's a system that's what I love about it they've developed a little system where they can isolate you put you with the right people the right inputs train you give you a you know motivation for life all that stuff and now they're cloning it and Bram taking it around the country somebody's smarter than me probably should be looking into this so I copied you know dr. drew on that and Michael Shellenberger who are both deeply involved in the California homelessness crisis now to be clear California homelessness probably has a lot to do with mental illness I don't believe the Delancey Street model I could be wrong about this but I don't think they're optimized for mental illness so that's that's a whole population that I don't know any kind of a solution for so dr. drew were just just talking about you and my tweet about Delancey

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about you and my tweet about Delancey Street as a possible model for treating addiction I'd have to know more about it but everything I hear about that ms is good so Delancey Street in San Francisco take a look at it they have a button for donations I'm not going to ask you to donate because every time I do that somebody told somebody says it's some kind of a scam so use your own judgment on anything like that all right what I like about Delancey Street in particular is that it's a forty plus year experiment which I'm sure they have tweaked and tweaked and adjusted and changed they've added different kinds of skills and and vocational training to it they really kind of know what works and what doesn't at this point and so now they're in the cloning phase now if I were to describe a perfect system for solving anything it would look like this lots of people in different places try

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lots of people in different places try different things the things that don't work we stop doing the things that do work we keep doing and we tweak it and once we're pretty pretty sure that it works or at least it works better than the other things then you clone it so Delancey Street is at the clothing stage that's a big deal if you reach the cloning stage where you're reproducing your system in other places it means you have someone and so kudos to Delancey Street for doing the hard work I mean that's the hard work I have so much respect for people who do real hard work like they're actually on the street they're picking up the trash there they're working with the addicts they're working with the homeless I have so much respect for people who will do that kind of work because frankly I wouldn't be up to it we're apparently the country has the country the government homeland

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the country the government homeland defense as contracted for a drone bubble defense on the border so we actually have technologies now in which they can scan for drones and then if a drone is detected anywhere within the bubble you know on the border or anywhere else so if a drone is detected they actually they initiate anti-drone defenses I think automatically there might be a human involved but it would happen quickly and either in any event I think there's a three minute lag time from spotting the drone to taking it down and they take it down I believe electronically so they they take out its electronic controls and they just bring it safely to the ground so I just mentioned that because it's kind of amazing it's amazing that there is an anti drone technology that works well enough that we're actually building defenses against it somebody says they

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defenses against it somebody says they hired Delancey Street as movers and they were very professional yeah so the job of being movers is one of the things Delancey Street trains and I think that's actually yeah I think the way they fund their program if I'm not wrong is that they have their own restaurant where people learn to do the restaurant jobs you know the the ex-addicts or I guess our current addicts and and that's all part of paying the bills so that moving company I think is the same thing I might be wrong about that but I think that's how they pay for stuff anyway it's a great model and that's all for today and I will talk to you later