Episode 679 Scott Adams: Presidential Tweet Persuasion, Ukraine and More

Date: 2019-09-30 | Duration: 1:04:57

Topics

My new book LOSERTHINK goes on sale 11/5. Pre-order: https://bit.ly/2NRammu Ukraine story continuing to unfold Jake Tapper shreds Jim Jordan over the fired Ukraine guy Elizabeth Warren’s rally at historically black college India’s Modi wants nuclear power…and can’t have it My reasons for promoting nuclear energy Punchy De Niro’s F bombs and lack of reasons A “Lifestyle Resister” managing his brand? Have we moved past a need for reasons? There’s never been a better Presidential communicator Analyzing President Trump’s 3 part whistleblower tweet An argument for allowing transgender athletes to compete Sports are designed to showcase unfairness

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hey everybody come on in here yes Monday morning and you know what time it is it's time for coffee with Scott Adams and a little thing I call the simultaneous step you might know it as the best thing ever because if you've tried to enjoy your morning without the simultaneous sip well you can do it yeah you could do it it's just not as good yes everybody who's tried and it doesn't take much to participate no it doesn't all it takes is a couple more glasses time they tell us the tanker to thermos with last a cantina grill and goblet a vessel is gonna kind of fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee join me now go that's good coffee Wow all right does it seem to you that this Ukraine's story feels like the

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this Ukraine's story feels like the third sequel of a movie where they couldn't get the original movie stars to appear in that sequel it feels like the bad sequel when they didn't have quite the budget that they used to but they're gonna use the name recognition it's like hey yeah we're gonna make a sequel we're gonna win the call we're gonna call it Putin two stars and ruining democracy in the United States and then they talked to Putin he's like nah nah nah nah I already do movie III want to work on creative projects may be something small next time and people say wow we can't give Putin damn it our sequel is ruined wait a minute wait a minute I think we can get a deal on Ukraine oh let's try let's try toss a little Ukraine at them I don't think the public can tell the difference Russia Ukraine are they really gonna

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Russia Ukraine are they really gonna know the difference because they're pretty sure that Russia took over Ukraine half of them after the world so let's go with the sequel Ukraine Russia collusion - the movie it's not going too well I'm close to the the end of watching a miniseries on Showtime about Roger Ailes the first news who started Fox News and I kind of tell you I thought it was gonna be about is me to stuff you know I thought that's what mostly was about but there's a lot of context about the news business that is just sort of jaw-dropping I don't know that any of it was completely unexpected or surprised but to actually see it presented in in what is being presented as a factual way is pretty amazing so I haven't finished

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pretty amazing so I haven't finished that but one of the the key takeaways is that you know if we are to believe that any of this really happened now keep in mind that when you see a miniseries about a real person who's deceased at most of the dialogue nobody could have seen or really known what happened so a hundred percent of the dialogue or probably 98 percent of it is made made up by the movie makers to be as close as they can get to what they believe happened behind closed doors so you can't believe it all but what they allege is that Roger Ailes literally just made stuff up and then told Fox News to report it like it was a fact and on more than one occasion he regularly according to the miniseries he would just just make up a fact and tell and tell his people to report it as fact now

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tell his people to report it as fact now to his credit apparently his bosses meaning the the burdock family were not in favor of that and and try to get him to report the news more like the news so now that ails has deceased one might expect that Fox News would would be adhering more to the facts as they see them which I think probably is the case I don't know if you've been watching Fox News for a long time it does feel as if they've they've approached something like closer to the middle than they were at least in terms of literally just making stuff up and running with it I don't see that happening anymore I do see however things that are not true and this this Ukraine situation is just amazing because both sides are operating upon apparently a lie so both sides of the Ukraine situation seem to

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sides of the Ukraine situation seem to be basing all of their opinions on things that aren't true I'll give you an example so the the anti-trump errs are saying that he withheld the aid to Ukraine in order to get in favor but the reporting is showing that the that the aid had been withheld for months and that there were actually there's record of legitimate concern about corruption and about whether other countries were stepping up to pay as much so apparently there was two separate concerns were out there on top of that the president has a general concern about how much we give to other countries and foreign aid and apparently he'd been holding this back for months so if you tell me that the president held that back as leverage and apparently didn't ever tell them it was held back because they didn't know it was being held back they were just wondering what was going

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they were just wondering what was going on so apparently the whole held back money to get a favor thing just falls apart factually because the the timeline doesn't work they had been held that back so far back that it's hard to believe that the president was anticipating that phone call it doesn't doesn't quite pass the sniff test at the same time there was a rather embarrassing situation with Jin Jordan and Jake Tapper in which Jake Tapper shredded him on live TV for apparently a factual inaccuracy and the factual inaccuracy is about the so-called corrupt prosecutor now of course someone who's being accused of being a corrupt prosecutor was asked did you get fired because you were investigating it doesn't matter what the corrupt prosecutor says because that would not be a credible credible voice so you can't listen to that guy but he said something I'm not even gonna repeat it because you should not treat it as

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because you should not treat it as credible he's the guy that got fired for being allegedly corrupt so whatever he says is not credible even if it's true it doesn't have the doesn't have the credibility so here's the thing that Jim Jordan said he said that that Biden demanded that that prosecutor be fired because he was looking into hunter Biden's company but apparently that's just not the case apparently there are a number of international groups that wanted that prosecutor fired for being corrupt and for not for not investigating apparently they weren't investigating nobody was investigating hunter Biden's company and that's part of the reason they wanted him fired so the entire story on the left is completely falsified the entire story on the right is completely falsified so we're having this weird debate of two versions of history neither of which are true and

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history neither of which are true and it's fairly easy to demonstrate that they're not true now what is true as far as I could tell using so he says Scott has been duped will delete you so what is true is the hunter Biden took what seems to most observers an unreasonable amount of time an unreasonable amount of time to the the fact show that they were not investigating barista that's what CNN's reporting so as it as it stands the facts seem to falsify bowls at both sides of the story but what does matter is a hundred Biden was taking a large amount of money from a foreign entity associated with their government because oligarchs are always associated with the government and nobody thinks that was a good idea

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nobody thinks that was a good idea except to hunter Biden so so that's our world that the news the news isn't even anymore there's a fake news and then there's the truth now it's just two versions of fake news apparently
Giuliani claims yesterday he has documents showing the prosecutor was investigating Biden's son doesn't matter it doesn't matter if he was a corrupt investigator and they were gonna get rid of him anyway if he was corrupt in general it kind of doesn't matter what he was doing with that one company he still had to get fired right am i right even if even if Giuliani is right even if that one company was actually being investigated and not on hold as reported by seeing that even if that's true doesn't matter he's still needed to get fired if all the other stuff about him was true so anyway let's talk about

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was true so anyway let's talk about something else we'll talk about Trump's to tweet here in a moment Elizabeth Warren did an event in South Carolina at a historically black college and couldn't get black people to show up that's right Elizabeth Warren number two in the polls for the Democrats who has trouble getting black support went to South Carolina substantial black population did an event at an historically black college and couldn't get many black people to show up I think that tells you our odds were getting elected are pretty close to zero let's talk about India they wanted Modi is pushing to have India do nuclear energy to help with climate change plus they need energy plus they want clean air and water so Modi is pushing a nuclear power but guess what oh god did I just say

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but guess what oh god did I just say guess what I just want to I want to blow my own brains out for saying that the overused phrase from you know where I guess that's a tell for watching a particular Network isn't it so Moe Dee wants nuclear energy but he can't have it did you know that were you aware that India one of our allies once to have nuclear energy I can't do it because of the rest of the world won't let it what now the reason is fairly solid the reason is that they have not they're unwilling to sign a non-proliferation agreement which would be and if they did sign it then other countries would be allowed to assist them with technology and fuel and stuff as I understand it but because they find a some kind of a flaw in the agreement itself just the document the agreement has some kind of flaw which I don't know what it is and

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flaw which I don't know what it is and wouldn't understand if I did they're not allowed to do it now let me ask you this there are a lie and they want to solve climate change and they know how and it's nuclear energy and the rest of the world won't let them do it how serious are we about nuclear how serious are we about climate change really shouldn't the rest of the country shouldn't shouldn't France and Great Britain and anybody who's got nuclear shouldn't they be lobbying hard for India to get nuclear power really does anybody think India with with all of its resources and all of its engineers do we think that India couldn't pull off a nuclear weapon I mean they have one don't they don't they already have a nuclear weapon okay why why can't they have a nuclear power there's something

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have a nuclear power there's something here in the story I don't understand anyway the larger point of me bringing it up is that nuclear power will be the the answer to climate change even if there is no climate change risk it's the only thing that makes everybody happy and we can actually do and there's no other option that's it it's the only thing that could get us across the finish line of surviving as a species apparently if you believe the calamity people somebody on the internet asked me this question which was actually a perfectly fair question somebody said who's paying me to promote nuclear energy you know what how much am I being paid by the nuclear energy or anybody else to promote nuclear the answer of course is nothing nothing and I was disappointed to learn that maybe somebody would pay me for for promoting nuclear energy and I thought what I

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nuclear energy and I thought what I could get paid for this I've been doing this for free I don't expect to be paid for it by the way now one of the reasons that I feel like I can add something to the national conversation if you will is because of this very thing you could reasonably depend that I'm not being paid for my advocacy because already rich you know I wouldn't care about it that much so now I'm not being paid by anybody for my nuclear advocacy it is simply a message which needed to be boosted and there are a number of situations where I boost messages that I think are good for the world but are being suppressed for whatever reason maybe we have some misunderstandings and fears and ignorance there might be something blocking a better message from getting through and I try to help amplify those messages that that's pretty much the whole story with me if you're asking me what's in it for me which is a good question by the way

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me which is a good question by the way you you should be asking yourself wait a minute why would he be pushing nuclear energy if nobody's paying him and it probably will be bad for him meaning that there will be X number of people who will hate me for my position why would you take a position that gives you no compensation and makes people hate you which will actually reduce your income because they did my case people punished me by not by my book or not reading Dilbert or something so why would I do something is clearly bad for me economically it's obviously bad for me economically trust me on that and no gate why would I do that well I I'm of the view that nobody does anything for nothing wouldn't you agree can't we agree that nobody really does anything for nothing so there must be something I'm getting out of it and there is I like being

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out of it and there is I like being useful and if it ever came to a point where somebody said hey Scott will give you some I don't praise or attention for being useful I'd say great thank you I like praise I like being useful I like being recognized for being useful but if that never happened and the only thing that happened was the world the world was saved from from nuclear the sort of the world was saved from let's say climate disaster let's say the air was cleaned in all around the world and the water was clean if the only thing that happened was all of those good things and nobody ever said thank you scot-free or you know a little piece of that I'd be okay with that totally okay that would be a hundred percent acceptable not just acceptable most amazing outcome ever I would be the happiest person in the world if I were if I were some teeny little piece of something good that

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little piece of something good that happened why wouldn't I how could anybody feel bad about that could you could you feel bad about being part of something that really made a difference of course not you were all wired that way so it's part of our most basic wiring that we do feel good when we do stuff for the world was good we held it so you may have seen the punchy dinero Robert De Niro I call him punchy because he threatens to punch people punchy De Niro went on CNN and dropped the f-bombs on live TV talking about Trump and when he was asked sort of what's what's wrong with Trump he could not articulate any reasons he just sort of babbled about all the things he does and I thought to myself we've now i think i think punchi punchi dinero i think he marked a turning point in my understanding of the world and

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in my understanding of the world and here's the turning point I no longer see Trump Trump resistance as based on fears because it used to be it used to be based on fear it was oh no he's going to ruin the world if he gets elected but that fear seems to have dissipated by years of Trump administration's so far in which things are just going well you know the big stuff economy Wars you know things are kind of going well you know it aids is being tapped down and I mean really we are in an amazing time this is a great time to be alive so people's fears I think is shrunk so now they you know they're still locked into opposing Trump but they've lost the fear I think some you know some few people probably have it I think the average person has lost the fear and that was really the mode of anything then the next thing was the fax they would look at the facts and they'd

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they would look at the facts and they'd say wait a minute it seems to be the fax that Russia he was colluding with Russia so for a long time they lost the fear but then they jumped to the facts or the facts these acts from Schiff who is very reliable yes he's very reliable and Maxine Waters and all the other reliable Democrats they're telling my team that there are facts they would say Trump is bad because of Russia collusion whoops the facts disappeared because Muller could not confirm what they imagined was to be true so they lost their fear before he got elected ah he's gonna ruin the world nuclear explosions we're all gonna be rounded up gays will be put in concentration camps turns out he actually is working hard to eradicate AIDS who saw that coming well everybody who voted for him saw her coming so I believe we're in phase three and punchy dinero is marking that that

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and punchy dinero is marking that that period phase one were afraid of Trump because he hasn't been elected and we're told he will do terrible things phase two well he's doing terrible things and that happened with Russia okay that wasn't true either facts go away economy is doing great facts no longer work we can't use facts against the president anymore our facts even the facts that were true stuff about stormy Daniels there were just inner two facts they were facts but they didn't have any power now we're in Phase three do you know what phase three is lifestyle right punchi De Niro is a lifestyle resistor his identity his social life his reputation have all been consolidated around this punchy hatred of of Trump likewise a number of people in Hollywood etc are managing their

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in Hollywood etc are managing their brand and managing their brand requires you know a certain set of beliefs you got a to be concerned about the environment while while ruining the vital environment at the same time apparently that seems necessary and I would say the punchy when he could simply not he couldn't even give a reason he was on CNN they asked him about the only all he could do is swear in an entertaining fashion he couldn't come up with a reason not even like a general wave your arms I think the president well ruin X or Y he didn't have anything nothing I think he marks the lifestyle phase where the people are sort of actors in their own life now we've been watching this this to movie situation and it's probably as stark as you could possibly have it I tweeted about this I forgot to write it down but I tweeted that the two boobies have become at

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that the two boobies have become at least with this Ukraine situation one of them is that a hero warts an attempt a coup attempt on the United States so the hero beats the coup attempt and then through completely legal processes with witnesses he asks for an ally to the United States Ukraine to help him with a legal investigation of something he suspected might be a problem and he wanted to get to the bottom of it so that's one movie hero pizza coup s and Ally for legal completely legal help looking into a legal situation that has great import to this country because the person in question is leading in the polls to be the next president that's one movie the other movie is orange Hitler is rummaging for dirt on his political opponent both both movies seem to fit the observe two facts but I believe that people are starting to see the movies as movies in other words I

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the movies as movies in other words I don't know if people are completely buying anymore that their version of the truth is actual truth there seems to be something like an adopted truth or a lifestyle truth or a preferred truth a subjective truth that that the public is sort of rallying behind two different versions so punchy seems to have marked that turning point where the you don't even need reasons anymore because nobody is adopting their lifestyle because of reasons it's not because of fear that was phase one it's not because of facts that was phase two that didn't work now we're in phase three it's just a lifestyle and when you start seeing it that way it looks different watch out now that I've pointed this out you're gonna see the resistors as being sort of like you voluntarily they're actors they are literally acting out their play now let

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literally acting out their play now let me ask you this would you agree that the resistance you know the people marching in the streets against Trump started out with high energy high fear like actual fear of President Trump and the it led to them acting on the actual fear with violence we saw way too much violence is it my imagination or has the violent phase of the resistance kind of stopped do you know why the violent phase would stop now of course as soon as I say that some Anti Fog idiot is going to hit somebody over the head with a blunt object so you know that's going to happen so don't take it as an absolute but in general the resistors anti-shah et cetera went from high-energy scared to death and willing to commit violence on fellow citizens to act out their resistance you don't see that deal when

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resistance you don't see that deal when when was the last time you saw that level of energy and hatred on the street it's not there because the fear has dissipated the the reality of a few years of Trump is like not as bad as we thought that's not even close to whoa actually it's pretty good I think I just got a job offer well maybe I got something else to do today so we're in the third phase the lifestyle phase of the resistance and when you see people resisting you ask yourself does that look real because it doesn't look real anymore I'll tell you what was different in the first first months of the Trump presidency when I saw somebody railing against him in complaining it looked to me as an observer real it didn't look like politics to me it looked like real citizens and I had I had empathy for them like literally a lot I had empathy for the people who were

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I had empathy for the people who were scared to death that this president was going to be you know promoting some kind of Hollis talk Holocaust or something they really believed it and I really felt sorry for them that that group of people has dissipated down to some kind of seething mentally ill group and I mean that with affection I'm best not an insult the mental illness is real I have actual empathy for that there are people who have been scared and frightened and PTSD into some form of pretty bad mental illness and it's a real thing and I don't think we should laugh about it it's actually real but but clearly the temperature is way down at this point so that's good let me tell you about the president's tweet which I I consider one of his best I was I was watching old footage of Trump giving his his early

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footage of Trump giving his his early stump speeches it was also on that same Showtime miniseries and I was taken by how much better he's gotten if you look at early footage of Trump when he was just becoming a candidate for president he was good and you could see immediately you know why he had something special but if you were to compare Trump 2016 with Trump 2019 man he's gotten better so you don't expect people to improve a lot at that age at anything right you don't think people are gonna get better at something you're starting at age 70 or whatever you think now let's you reach your cap that's the bad as good you gonna get but Trump has apparently yes somebody says he's more confident he's more confident but he's also more practiced so those two things are really showing you look at his current performance and I will call it a

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performance and I will call it a performance because I think he would it's tremendous it's it's unambiguously the best we've ever seen I would say at this point I I'm gonna say with complete seriousness there's no hyperbole to what I'm gonna say next trumpet communication-wise he's the best president better than Lincoln of course liek Lincoln has some disadvantages right didn't have any technology so there's this sort of an apples to oranges thing but certainly better than all the modern television presidents you know Kennedy had his and his charisma and stuff but Trump overall he just dusts Reagan he dust Clinton he does Obama he does he's by far the best communicator let me give you an example now he of course he doesn't in the way that maybe nobody will ever do it again because he's more provocative you know

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because he's more provocative you know he's well all the things you know so here's his tweet he's talking about the whistle blower and Ukraine stuff and I'm gonna read through it it's a long one but then I'm gonna go back and I'm gonna pick out the technique okay so the first read-through was just to get the lay of the land and then they'll do the technique so it's a three-part tweet that's why it's so long president Trump said yesterday like every American I deserve to meet my accuser especially when this accuser the so-called whistleblower represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader in a totally inaccurate and fraudulent way then shift made-up what I actually said by lying to Congress his lies were made in perhaps the most blatant and sinister manner ever seen in the great chamber he wrote down and read terrible things and then said it was from the mouth of the President of the United States I want shift questioned at the highest level for fraud and treason in addition I want to meet not only my

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in addition I want to meet not only my accuser who represented second and third-hand information but also the person who illegally gave this information who was largely incorrect to the whistleblower was this person spying in capital letters on the US president big consequences do you know what the big consequences are for being a spy death penalty alright so what is the president doing right and this tweet just about everything just about everything now remember when I say he's doing everything right I mean as a communicator and as a politician all right I'm not saying that the facts are correct right the factual accuracy as we know doesn't seem to be a factor in persuasion the whole Ukraine thing is built on lies on both sides right it's just the whole thing is just a big old lie so the truth isn't actually a factor

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lie so the truth isn't actually a factor it's a variable that can be ignored for the purposes of looking at persuasion now for those of you who are new to me I'm not saying that facts have no impact they have an impact on the result all the time they don't have much impact on how we see things they don't have much impact on persuasion so that's what I say when I say facts no matter I mean to persuasion not to whatever the outcome is all right so here's president Trump's technique his very first sentence he says like every Americans a great way to start this because you start by pacing you say I am like you so that's always the best communication style is to establish that the viewer and the speaker are one in the same he goes right at it he goes like every American bang what it what is the one of the strongest brands and feelings that you

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strongest brands and feelings that you as an American most of your Americans have and it's your identity as an American especially Trump supporters who he's mostly talking to so when you start you're poor by saying like every American what does every American say they go okay that's your frame starting from the frame of we're all Americans go on continue and then he continues he says I deserve to meet my accuser and they talks about the whistleblower now what's your feeling forget about the facts forget about the facts forget about the law for a moment because I know what you're gonna say forget about the facts of the law for a moment when you see what are you hear like every American you say okay okay you're on my team we're Americans and he says I deserve to meet my accuser how do you feel about that damn right you agree with that right legally he does not have a right to find out who a whistleblower is in this

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out who a whistleblower is in this context all right we'll all agree that on a factual basis there's no delineated law or constitutional right there would allow him to see his whistleblower at this face if it became a legal problem a legal case or even the Pietschmann I don't know but at some point you can imagine he could find out but at this point he does not have that right but he says I deserve to meet my accuser he didn't say I have the right he said I deserve how do you feel about that if you were accused because he says I'm like every American imagine you're in this situation imagine you're an American and you've been accused of something by somebody you don't know what's your sense of it how do you feel about it how would you feel if it were you right it's really good because he says I'm just like you I'm not above the law
law I'm not below the law that that's implied by saying like every American like every American not above the law

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like every American not above the law not below the law we're a nation of laws and he doesn't say I have a right to meet my accuser he says I deserve it boom now when people use the word deserve I always mock them because nobody deserves anything I mean I've said that a million times in my life like a child or somebody else will say somebody or something I always say the same thing nobody deserves anything there's just what you can get that's it that's your world you if you can convince somebody you deserve something and they buy into that well they could be good persuasion but it's a nonsense concept we don't deserve anything there they're just rules sometimes they're followed sometimes they're not nobody deserves anything but for persuasion purposes perfect word because you would put yourself in the same situation you say if I were being accused of something that could literally cost me my job and I don't know who is accusing me is that fair nope so this is a really really strong emotional reflexive point because it

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emotional reflexive point because it puts people in his corner by saying I'm not above the law but I'm not below the law I'm like every American I deserve to meet my accuser that statement is as true as anything that will ever be stated while at the same time there's no legal basis for it okay I'm up on these talks about the so-called whistleblower so he puts the whistleblower in quotes and that's good because he's signaled signaling us to us that the whistleblower may not be pure meaning the whistleblower may not be doing this simply because there was some sense of wrong that they're trying to surface but rather that it might be a political situation so he puts it in quotes he calls it a so-called whistleblower so we know that there's some doubts and that he talks about that he represented a perfect conversation with a foreign leader now he's been using that phrase a perfect conversation I love it because he's branding it

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I love it because he's branding it he actually branded a conversation that man can brand damn near anything he can prey on people he can brand border security as the wall he brands like nobody has ever branded and he's branded a conversation as the perfect conversation this were like the Immaculate catchin football only football fans know what I'm talking about but the Immaculate catch there was one catch in all of well they got his own brand it was so special it was the Immaculate reception now Trump has branded a conversation as the perfect conversation now is it true that it was a perfect conversation it doesn't matter what matters is he's branded it that way and it definitely makes a difference because if he repeats it enough starts feeling like it's a fact so very good technique and and then he says that he's been misinterpreted in inaccurate in fraudulent way then he

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inaccurate in fraudulent way then he talks about ship when shifted his little parody in front of Congress where Schiff read something as if the president said it before revealing that he was talking you know that it was his own words and he was speaking as if the president so what shifted was parody which he revealed as parody so after he did it he made sure that we knew he'd made that part up but still it was weaselly to the extreme nobody who sees the situation thinks that was an appropriate way to break break it down it was persuasive perhaps which is the problem Schiff did something that probably was persuasive it was persuasive that's why he did it because you remember what he said better than you remember people saying that's not what the president said so it's it's the old print the lie and then later a week later put the little the little disclaimer this under whoops we got that fact wrong and then nobody reads his

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fact wrong and then nobody reads his disclaimer so you get away with the persuasion that was in the fake fact so the president is characterizing shifts parody which even Schiff said was parody at the time when he was done with it he could he's called them lies that were made in perhaps the most blatant and sinister manner that's kind of true they were you could call I think you could fairly call them lies because they were presented in a way to persuade the viewer that they were truthfulness to them that there was a truth equality to them without being precisely accurate so I think you could call it a lie and was it made in a blatant and sinister manner the most blatant and one ever seen in the Great Chamber well here we see the president's hyperbole which always works could it be the most blatant and sinister manner

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the most blatant and sinister manner ever seen in the Great Chamber so that's good technique what bad technique would be to say it was blatant and sinister good technique is to make you wonder if it's the if it's the most blatant and sinister thing you've ever seen in the great chamber imagine how many how many blatant and sinister things have happened in that chamber probably a lot so if he's making you once again think past the sale if you're asking yourself is it the most blatant sinister thing or is it maybe the top 10 I don't know if it's the most blatant and sinister thing that's ever happened in the Great Chamber but you know if it's in the conversation it's probably in the top 10 so that's a technique to make you think past the question into the the less relevant question of whether it's the most blatant and sinister Trump uses this technique all the time and it's really good technique you wrote down and read

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good technique you wrote down and read terrible things then said it was from the mouth of the president well sort of that's close in the general neighborhood of what sort of happened what he doesn't say is that Schiff meant it as parodies so the president's using a little bit of let's say creative exaggeration of what happened to for effect but does it well because people reading this are not up on all the details it says in addition I want to meet not only my accuser who presented second and third-hand information so there he's he's reframing the information as second and third-hand now I had not heard that there was only third hand information had you now if there had never been anything called third and information in this it's still smart that he throws that in there because it's hard to disprove that some of it is third hand and he doesn't give her percentage there might've been one thing

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percentage there might've been one thing that was third hand and all the rest was second hand which would be in something right versus one thing purses one thing that was second hand and all the rest was third hand by not putting any sense of perspective on it the reader is left to say wow third-hand information isn't worth anything you know we all know that game telephone right where information changes every time it's whisper to the next person so just by throwing in that third hand part his he makes you think past the sale again because you end up arguing with yourself well how much of it was secondhand and how much of it was third and if you're thinking about that he's already got your mind where he wants it which is thinking about the unreliability of the information a great technique for persuasion but he also wants to know who is the person who illegally was the original source apparently somebody who was in the room or listening to it and it was largely incorrect he says this so-called

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incorrect he says this so-called whistleblower and that he ends with was this person spying in all capitals on the US president big consequences now here's the beauty of that President Trump knows that when he uses this word spying and he knows this from experience because it just happened like his fresh in his mind that when he used the word spy it makes the news go crazy all right so this is where he's controlling the your attention and what the news will talk about he does this on Sunday so that the whenever all that the a players get back to work that's what they have to chew on so he's giving this word spying he puts it in capital letter so you can't possibly miss it so the president who say here's your red meat here's some red meat here here here everybody you know in the news is like spying he does he want to execute this person he

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does he want to execute this person he was to execute him you know what it means when he says big consequences that can only mean one thing we're not a democracy he's a dictator he wants to he was to execute his staff first and see so this was sort of the symptoms that that made me want to talk about this this is so obviously the president screw it with the press he is so obviously probably laughing out loud when he wrote this sentence because not only does he know exactly how they will interpret it but he already watched them do it once and it didn't make any difference it just it just made them go crazy for a week so he's just giving them the same red meat he gave them last time because he knows what they're gonna do with it and he knows it didn't hurt him he knows it didn't hurt him let's

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him he knows it didn't hurt him let's say you're a uninterested observer let's say you're somewhere in the middle as if there's anybody was in the middle one on Trump but I pathetically imagine that there a few people were undecided yeah I can't even say that with a straight face who in the world would be undecided about Trump like just such a person exists but let's imagine that there's somebody who's close closer than sitting on the fence here does this does this sit right with you that somebody might have been called a spy for outing the president on a private conversation which he it was private but he did it with other people in the room so obviously he wasn't trying to hide it from posterity he was doing it with the assumption he was doing something legal and useful apparently because he did it in front of lots of witnesses but do you feel that whoever outed him was a whistleblower or do you feel that they were kind of a weasel

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well it's sort of a toss-up right the people on the left will will retreat to whistleblower the people on the right will say the spy but he's introducing this thought that that person is just will say not to be respected a whistleblower is somebody you respect a lot so you would give an extra extra credit to a whistleblower for taking personal risk to do something good for the world so whistleblowers sort of a real high-level credible label to have on somebody and you don't want your opponent to be labeled with the most respectful label so he's gone all the way as far as you can go to a disrespectful label which is a spy who could actually be executed for being so bad now I don't believe anybody thinks that the person in the room was an actual spy for another country but what would a spy for another country do in a

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would a spy for another country do in a situation like this if if there were let's say a Chinese spy or if there were a Russian spy let's imagine if there were an actual spy who was really working for a foreign government how would they act that would be different from how this so-called whistleblower acted how different would it be probably not probably not different right if you were a Chinese spy and you wanted to take down this government that might be what I'm ready to go to out him for a conversation which seems at least mildly impeachable or at least people are gonna think so if you wanted to so discontent wouldn't you do it that way all right no you wouldn't but the answer is you would never become a whistleblower if you were

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never become a whistleblower if you were a spy in the real world because if you could if you were a spy and you had so much access you were listening to the president's phone call or you were talking to people who had just listened to it you don't give yourself up that would be the best buy ever so what's not happening I don't think there's any chance that this so-called whistleblower is working for a foreign country because if they were they wouldn't give up their cover it would be too valuable if they were that close to the inside so there isn't really any chance that this person was a spy in the foreign country kind of spy doesn't fit any rational theory that you can imagine where they wouldn't now I say that at the same time I have a book coming out called loser thinking which I warn people that their lack of imagination should not be seen as evidence now because I can't imagine a situation in which would make sense for a foreign spy to do what this alleged whistleblower is doing it doesn't mean

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whistleblower is doing it doesn't mean there is no theory that would make that make sense I just can't think of one so if you also can't think of one that's a pretty good sign that we can't think of us so I don't think it's that with foreign spies situation I don't think it's Russian interference and so using the word spy is clearly meant as just getting the getting the press to go nuts and but spy could mean in this sense for the Democrats or for the deep state now if they're a spy for the deep state and the deep state literally exists you meaning that they have meetings you know they talk to each other and they're trying to overthrow a legally elected person for just power reasons well I think you could call that a spy that would be a spy for the coup planners but I don't know if I will ever be the right fit so I will not allege that said whistleblower is a spy probably a partisan now being Scott is

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probably a partisan now being Scott is intellectual but misguided we block people who say stuff like that goodbye remember you're always allowed to disagree and you're always allowed to give reasons but when you simply insult me without putting a reason that I block you because I don't want people like you in my life you can disagree with me all day long tell me what's wrong you got plenty of room you don't even have to give details you could say I disagree with you because of you know the Constitution and I would say oh okay there's no details there but at least you know it's obvious you have some kind of reason that you're thinking you know get blocked for that if you even suggest that you have a reason for your opinion I will not block you assuming is a legitimate sounding reason yeah I don't have to agree with it just has to be in the realm of legitimate alright that's just my little rule so just recapping the president's

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rule so just recapping the president's excellent tweet he you know deferred departs he farts he departs from the fact checking per usual uses as hyperbole in place of more accurate language as usual but damn it's good because he's creating a new cycle that will look like it's bad for him because people will jump on this and say you calling him a spy you're you're bringing risk to him you're bad person but it's gonna make you deal with the word spy so if he if the president makes his critics talk about the president using the word spy and he doesn't long enough more people will hear that the Democrats have spied on him in the White House or the deep state did so he is getting his message amplified by his critics which is amazingly good form and

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critics which is amazingly good form and I would say that in this case you know I'm not a mind-reader right so it could be wrong which is always a good thing to say when you you're about to say what I'm gonna say if you ever say something like I'm about to say and you don't throw in but I could be wrong you're probably a little overconfident in your opinions so I could be wrong but it seems to me that president is signaling with a wink and a nod to his supporters that he's just getting the anti-trump press stirred up and and that he's doing it intentionally because it implies his message it looks it looks pretty over to me but again I could be wrong I'm not a mind reader all right reveal the name of the whistleblower yeah I don't know how that process works so I think I have to get I think I have to get educated on what

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think I have to get educated on what happens to the identity of a whistleblower if the whistleblower complaint you know keeps going to through its process I don't even know what the processes I suppose it depends if there's a crime or not a crime yes and then there was the story about the whistleblower rules suspiciously changed about a month ago quietly to allow secondhand information now I don't actually have a problem with that that change that's a change that I listen to and I got you know if if somebody comes to you with second-hand information of some horrible thing happening you'd want to look into it even if it's secondhand information so I don't think the rule change is a bad one but the timing of it seems pretty suspicious it could be a coincidence but you don't know what that I'm just

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you don't know what that I'm just looking at your comments here for a moment yeah who changed it I think that's still a question that hasn't been answered all right well let's get back to all the lifestyle the lifestyle politics that we have adopted all right oh let me say something about transgender athletes because I saw something in the comments that reminded me that so as you famously know I made most if not all of you angry by saying transgender athletes should be allowed to compete now there's there's a second part of this that needs to be said and it goes like this why is there a separate men's and women's league for any sports now you're gonna say Scott well that's a dumb

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gonna say Scott well that's a dumb question because there's a size difference there's muscle difference you know if small women played on the same team with large men first of all they could never make the team and second of all they get hurt and third of all why can't women have sports where they could excel why should they always you know be in the sport to them you know have some lower role sit on the bench or something right that doesn't make any sense but here's the thing every sport is divided even within gender let's say we're just talking about the men every sport is divided by talent level always they're all divided by talent level if you threw men and women together and continue doing what we already do which is dividing the entire sport by talent level some people are professionals some are semi-pro some baited on the college team some played on a competitive you know casual league some played on a less competitive casually some played in just

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competitive casually some played in just pickup games you can find a league in which you are compatible no matter what your what your biological truth is I used to play in an indoor soccer league a co-ed indoor soccer league it was a co-ed indoor soccer league now if you've ever played co-ed soccer and you put a top male co-ed soccer player against you know even a pretty good female player the female player could get hurt unless they were you know probably if they were college or professional level they would know not to get hurt but it would be a dangerous situation was there ever any problem with my pickup League which had all different class levels you know from from a real competitive one to adjust people who learn to play soccer yesterday nah the men in the women played on the same team perfectly well

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played on the same team perfectly well because all of the leagues were organized by talent level so I played on my own team with this happened by complete coincidence I didn't know it at the time I just got my friends to be on a team what I didn't know is as several of my friends were insanely good soccer players I didn't even know that and some of them were women so the the women on the team were so good that they were clearly better than some of the men now that means that we were we were about you know in the right place meaning that if some of the women are better than some of the men and vice versa you're on the right team now soccer if somebody's saying bad example soccer is one sport but every sport has that quality where people can compete at a higher level or a lower level and just find their level now if part of what makes you not as competitive is your size let's say

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competitive is your size let's say you're really good at something but you're not very big there's there's a level for you you might be the best one on the lower level but you would know and everybody else would know that if you went up a level it would be dangerous you know you wouldn't be able to compete at that level you get hurt then don't do it so and I'm a same thing if if the best woman fighter wants to compete against what would probably be almost one of the worst male fighters because they're roughly competitive I don't see any problem with that if they're competitive now you wouldn't want the best female player best female MMA fighter to fight the best male fighter because that would just be dangerous and we don't do that we don't do it even within Jeff you don't take the best female MMA fighter and have her fight the worst MMA fighter those two never get in the cage they never fight so those who are of you

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they never fight so those who are of you who are complaining about transgender maybe rethink of this why do we have a separate male and female sports to begin with it would be simple because we already do it within Jenner's to divide the teams by skill level that's it that's the whole thing it's easy and there's probably I would imagine that in the future separating sports by gender just wouldn't make sense now you might ask yourself well Scott Scott Scott doesn't that mean that there would be no women's team that ever got to compete late let's say at a high school level you know that they wouldn't have a team because the best team would presumably be 99% men there be a few few women that would get through it but 99 percent men is that fair well is it fair that I can't make the basketball team is that fair I'm 5 foot 8 so if I can't make my high school

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8 so if I can't make my high school basketball team should they make a new basketball team for me because I'm not tall that was shouldn't I be able to petition my school and get a law change so that short people can be on the on the starting team why not why is it fair that short people can't be on the team the answer is these things are not designed to be fair sports are designed to showcase unfairness if you think is anything else you're probably seeing it wrong the whole point of sports is to showcase that some people are amazing at it and it's fun to watch them play and other people are not so good and they are treated as not so good they get the lesser leagues fewer people watch them they don't get the same level of equipment that's just the way it goes I would be in the same category as most women because I'm not big enough to play you know and 90% of men would also be in the category of not good enough to play on the high school

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good enough to play on the high school team 90 percent 95 percent right don't 95 percent of males and not make the team so who the hell cares that a handful of kids in high school got to be stars and they were all mad I don't care cuz I'm not one of them screwed you could get rid of the whole sports in general I'd be okay with it because I'm not on the team anyway just to be clear I could have made all of my teams in high school [Laughter] high school and I actually could have played on the varsity basketball team my coach actually asked me to play but that's how bad the team was that's not how good I was that's how bad the teams were and you're saying a lot of women care well uh-huh let's say a hundred percent of women thought that was unfair to to do it that way just one set of teams and you both every gender however many

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you both every gender however many gender as you want it wouldn't matter how many genders are cuz just you could be anybody could play you just find your level within the sport would that be unfair to women sure would it be unfair to men who were not athletic exactly the same way exactly the same way sports are not designed to be fair they're designed for the best people to be highlighted and and celebrated I think that's a bunch of ridiculousness and should end but if people want to do it I'm in the same category as the women same category as the transgenders who don't get to play on the on the varsity team we all have some physical limitation that prevents us from playing on the top team so I'm with the trans trans athletes I'm with them because I'm more like them than I am like a star quarterback I'm more like

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am like a star quarterback I'm more like the women than I am like the star quarterback because I can't make the team either can't make the team I don't have those skills never can have those skills so but I also think the sports are a bunch of BS they're you know probably over emphasized all right that's all I got to say about that so I'm solidly with the transgender athletes and the women on this we're all the same at the same category we can't make the team either I just don't care and I think we should just have one set of sports and everybody can just find their level it works better than you think it does I'll tell you I have to tell you that co-ed soccer is way more fun than male-only soccer you know because I've played a lot of both and it's fun because it just just brings in some extra something it's just another level of variable that makes it better that's

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of variable that makes it better that's all for me I'll talk to you later