Episode 677 Scott Adams China, Ukraine HOAXES, Climate Solutions and More

Date: 2019-09-28 | Duration: 42:56

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My new book LOSERTHINK goes on sale 11/5. Pre-order: https://bit.ly/2NRammu President Trump’s “deplorable” “troll army” Boris Johnson funding and support for nuclear fusion Ukraine wasn’t aware their funding was on hold? Whistleblower rules changed in August to allow hearsay? IC spokesman refuses to comment on why rules changed Obama Admin wanted prosecutor fired for NOT taking on Burisma? Bill Maher points out Democrat hypocrisy, ignoring Biden story Rare example, a person capable of changing his opinion Artificial leaves capable of removing MORE CO2 than trees University of Illinois at Chicago’s breakthrough design Would ANY American company move into China today? Direction matters, and it isn’t looking good for China Michael Bloomberg’s comment: China is NOT a dictatorship

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ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba button hey everybody come on in here yeah it's time for a coffee with Scott Adams as luck would have it that's me you found me and I found you take a seat grab a beverage you're ready for the highlight of your day the part that makes everything better it's called the simultaneous simple and I think is well-named because of the simultaneity of the sitting and all you need to participate it's very simple all you need is a cover of our glasses dying to tell us detector thermos last canteen Grail goblet a vessel very controlling with your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now al you grifters join me now for the simultaneous scent
so I'm laughing because somebody somebody called me a grifter in the

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somebody called me a grifter in the comments which is a running joke because grifter is a funny word so so after I talked about how effective the word grifter is and the left has been using it for just any anybody who supports the president anybody in the administration so I started using it against my critics yesterday it didn't matter what they said or what the topic was I just called them a grifter I left it that it completely stops the argument well argue in our discussion it's like a grifter gonna hear you grifter and they just go away [Laughter] it's a more powerful word that I thought it's a funny word too so it's sort of like deplorable we're all grifters now so let me tell you the dumbest thing that my critics say and they say it often and it goes like this I will say something about the president doing something right that often other people

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something right that often other people are saying it's the very he did wrong fairly typical in my world and somebody will come in and they will say well let me bring him Dale to do it right they'll say this you support the president no matter what he does you support him no matter what he does because matter what he does you just will support him and see to which I say to my trolls how much of the full body of my work are you even familiar with it's almost always somebody who saw one or two tweets and they're like well I saw one or two tweets I have the full measure of the man I can see this cartoonist in her mind I've looked at all the nooks and crannies I can see the fullness of his opinion and weirdly he supports everything the president does all of it there's nothing the president does he doesn't support and you heard

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does he doesn't support and you heard this again from or you hear versions of it and actually Jake Tapper had a version of it that he'll see people talking about on the Internet and he said that one of trumps advantages is that he has quote an army of trolls who will defend him no matter what he does now that's probably pretty close to the truth he does have an army of trolls I say that affectionately you know the same way that I would I would call you all deplorable you know we're all trolls were all deplorable in some sense so that's I think that's true that an army of trolls will defend him no matter what but here's the thing it really is it no matter what really let me give you some hypotheticals let's say president Trump nominated for the Supreme Court a liberal would all of his troll army

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liberal would all of his troll army rushing to support him I'll think so how about if he started a war probably not suppose he raise your taxes I don't think so suppose the Yukon in the toilet no don't think would be supporting that suppose you could go down the line now I asked me if I support the president's health care plan I don't know what the hell it is so now I don't ask me if I support every single thing the president has said or done no because I'm not an idiot what is wrong with the people on the left that they actually believe the people on the right would support him no matter what he does there's no evidence of that it's the most ridiculous claim of all time what is true is that his troll army I've been called a general in

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troll army I've been called a general in the troll army I accept that characterization what is true is that when he is falsely framed for something or what he did isn't terribly important in the larger scheme of things his troll army will go in and try to set things right either by showing it's unimportant yeah it's just a joke what usually or that he did it right and it's being reported that he did it wrong so that exists for sure but what doesn't exist is you'll support him no matter what he does do you support him no matter what he does there's nothing like that going on it's like you it's like anybody would say that has never met a conservative the last thing a conservative would do is support anybody no matter what they did that's like the opposite of what who they are they're like their very identity is we like this set of things we don't like this other side of things if you do this set of things we like well we like you if you do this other

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well we like you if you do this other side of things we don't like might be a problem might be a revolution so nothing could be more opposite of reality than thinking that the Trump supporters would support him no matter what he does I think he started that himself with the I could choose somebody I'm should have a new thing and I think that the Democrats we believe that was actually true let me say this is clearly as I can if President Trump shoots an innocent person on Fifth Avenue or really anywhere else probably I'm not going to support that I feel confident that if he murders somebody while in the office of the presidency probably won't be in favor of that all right fun news Boris Johnson over in the UK I just announced they're funding nuclear fusion fusion I say not fission fission

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fusion fusion I say not fission fission fission fusion the kind that runs forever and it's clean and it's just self-sustaining and doesn't produce waste well that kind of doesn't quite exist so he's funding obviously the development of it 220 million pounds is that enough to get you there no but there's a lot going on in the world in the United States and two there are a number of companies working on nuclear fusion did I drink my coffee yet I think I did yeah okay all right so here's some updates about the Ukrainian story so the fog of war is starting to you know dissipate right so like every story that we hear the first version of the story almost always falls apart it doesn't matter who's telling the story or what it's about if it's about politics and all the networks are

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politics and all the networks are chattering about it it's probably gonna fall apart in about 48 hours so here are some of the things that have fallen apart on this Ukraine story number one and this is my favorite part Ukraine was not aware that their funds were on hold
can we just that that should be the end of it right I if that's the true statement and that's the reporting I mean you know the Republicans are saying it I suppose you need to make sure this is true but the latest is the Ukraine was not aware that their funds were on hold is there anything else you need to say about the story if that's true and I'd like to see a little more reporting just to be comfortable it's true but if that's true doesn't it all go away right away probably not because that's not how the world works here's another thing we found out so you know

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another thing we found out so you know how people were saying the whistleblower didn't have direct knowledge he had indirect knowledge he order from other people apparently the rules on whistleblowers just got changed just recently got changed to allow secondhand information hearsay if you will to be allowed for a whistleblower kind of convenient isn't it just recently changed hmm now that could be a that could be a coincidence because there there is such a thing as coincidence things are changing all the time well why wouldn't that would have changed but you have to ask yourself mm-hmm okay
and I think it was Sean Davis who tried to find out about these secret revisions to the whistleblower law and he said when asked via phone when the secretive reasons were made and why about the

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reasons were made and why about the requirement for a first day and whistleblower knowledge why was that eliminated and intelligence community spokesman said they would not comment on any questions about the secret evidence revisions what why wouldn't you comment about that why would that be a secret I mean I don't know why would that be a secret there doesn't there's nothing about that that sounds like you should be a secret they had a rule about whistleblowers they tweaked the rule in a specific way and I wouldn't even say it's a bad tweak would you I'm not entirely sure it's bad to prevent I I don't think it's bad that a whistleblower has that flexibility to say I heard it from the guy who knows that feels like actually a pretty good rule because you you know once the whistle has been blown you know you still have to go talk to the people

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you still have to go talk to the people who were in the room you know you're not done just because somebody said they heard it from somebody but as a place to start you know as a starting point to look into something seems perfectly reasonable you would never want to use the whistleblowers hearsay as your final evidence that would be crazy because you're saying is inadmissible as as you're saying in the comments but certainly as a tip for something to look into it seems kind of reasonable so since this seems kind of reasonable why wouldn't the intelligence agencies want to tell us why and when they made the change makes you wonder but again could be a coincidence and maybe they just it's also possible they just don't comment on stuff like that so you don't want to read too much into a lack of comment because it can mean other things it can mean and I talked about this and my book loser think

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about this and my book loser think available for pre-order now and getting lots of good early comments but I talked about the most likely explanation for a lot of things in our complicated world the most excellent the most likely explanation for anything in the news is and I quote myself things you couldn't imagine how often have you said to yourself well there are only two possible explanations it's either this one or that one and then when the truth comes out you're like oh I guess there was a third explanation I never would have thought of that one it is common in this world that the most like that the most common explanation for things is the one you didn't even know was an option so always keep that in mind so you got that I love the fact that Ukraine might not have known that the funds were even on hold that's just the best all right

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Bill Maher turned on 100 Biden and actually sat on his show that if one of the Trump Sons if Don jr. had done what hunter Biden did that Rachel Maddow would be all over it
he's right now I've said this a number of times but Bill Maher he might be the canary in the coalmine this is probably a bad analogy right I've said before that there aren't many people in the public eye especially pundits who would even be slightly possibly in your wildest imagination could ever change their allegiance or preference for a president you saw a scare Moochie do it but I think that's a special case you know these scaramouche he has his own interests and he's part of the political world Maher is sort of an observer of the political world and you've seen him

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the political world and you've seen him support things on both sides he is uniquely capable of changing his mind and that makes him sort of a national treasure even if you're hating everything he says all right I say I would say the same thing about people like let's say Joe Rogan I think Joe Rogan again he's not like in the political world he's an observer of a rare a rare personality type in the public sphere not that he will hasten to change his mind on anything in particular I'm just saying he could there very few people who can't yeah Glen Glen Greenwald I would say I disagree with Glenn Greenwald as often as I agree with him but unambiguously true he is capable of having an opinion on either side very err neroli you you could probably count on one hand all the people that you're in the public eye who could even do that

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in the public eye who could even do that it's a very rare quality so when you see Bill Maher you know sort of side on the essentially siding for one point point of the GOP point of view the the hunter Biden's the thing looks a little suspicious you can see him starting to it's almost like we're watching him in the process of saying did I get this wrong now not reading his mind so this is me looking on the outside and trying to guess what he's thinking so I'm not gonna say that I can tell what he's thinking that would be dumb but on the outside looking in as an observer I'm starting to see bread crumbs of somebody who is starting to see the insanity of his own side as soon as he starts to see that in clearer focus you might see something really interesting coming at Omar and you know his biggest issue has

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Omar and you know his biggest issue has been climate and here's something that he's discovering recently he is because we all discovered it recently it's not now something he discovered uniquely but watching the Democrats back in nuclear power watching Bill Gates bakit watching Yang bakit and watching Cory Booker you back it and even Biden Biden backing it and hearing people say you know this would work it actually would be enough it's not the only thing we should do I mean I'm I'm in favor of going hard at every green solution that we can come up with nuclear being one of them but you know that Maher is paying attention and you know that he's noticing that both the Democrats and the Republicans are both learning to coalesced on a perfectly feasible approach which is the new versions of nuclear

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new versions of nuclear energy which are safe compared to really any other alternate source of energy at least as far as we can tell they're safer on average than every other source of nuclear energy including solar as I said there are more people who have died falling off roofs trying to install their solar then all the people in the world who have died from the new generation of nuclear power plants which have been around for a while as well so the biggest issue form or at least in terms of what we hear is really the environment and I think he's saying the GOP and the being on the right side of it at least with the nuclear stuff that's that could be the thing that tips it let me let me say this even more starkly if bill maher ever comes out strong in favor of nuclear or if he even

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strong in favor of nuclear or if he even just has an expert on his show who can run him through how it's the solution to climate change and he doesn't push back too hard he should push back because that's the nature of the show but if in the end it looks like there's something here and maybe combine that with knowledge about the co2 scrubbing technologies or a number of companies developing things to scrub at nuclear and there's even a new one today coming out of University of Chicago they've created what they call artificial leaves that can remove far more co2 from the air than an actual leaf and then on top of that how many trees would we need to plant to pretty much take care of nuclear climate change assuming climate change is a problem and it turns out it's it's an actual doable number that the number of trees we would have to plant it's doable turns out now here's what I'd love I'd love to know

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here's what I'd love I'd love to know how many plants each person's would have to plant let me ask you this person how many plants how many trees would we have to plant to take care of climate change because we've got 7 billion people is that one acorn apiece if you if you sent me an acorn and I'll just use acorn as a example of something to plant a tree but there are better trees probably them Oh trees but if if everybody had one acorn and and the rules were you just find a place to put your acorn that's it here's your acorn just walk out into the backyard or you know public land or something just put a little hole stick your acorn in it now you're done I'm using acorn as an example not that's that wouldn't be the actual way you do it so add these things together you know Bill Maher is paying attention to climate and climate change and and the environment as Esha it's an

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and and the environment as Esha it's an excellent if you're gonna have one issue this sort of like your you know your signature issue that's a pretty good one so you know he's paying attention you know he's smart you know he is uniquely capable of taking the other position we're very close to the point where he's gonna realize the Republicans are going to get to nuclear and these scrubbing technologies maybe faster maybe faster than the Democrats what do you do then it makes the it makes the Republicans the party who has a way to take care of climate change I think Bill Maher is gonna be flirting with at least again I don't want to put thoughts into his head but given that he's a reasonable person he is paying attention and these big things are bubbling up they would show him both Democrats and GOP agree that the new technologies of nuclear really

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the new technologies of nuclear really are the way to go there's no way you can ignore that at this point all right oh here's the other thing we didn't know about the Ukraine thing sorry I'm bouncing back and forth there's some reporting and again these all are subject to fact-checking right don't believe anything exactly on this story but apparently the Obama administration wanted Ukraine's prosecutor fired in part because he wasn't investigating Boris Ma the company that hunter Biden was connected to so apparently there's there's actually a record of our ambassadors speech in 2015 going hard at that prosecutor for not taking on Purisima in other words the entire story about Joe Biden is just fake news so Joe Biden tried to get a prosecutor fired who everybody wanted fired so it seems

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who everybody wanted fired so it seems that the Joe Biden wants somebody fired part is fake news the part that isn't it apparently is not fake news as far as we know is the hunter Biden had a sweet deal that can't really be explained by his resume that's sort of the part that's the sticking part I haven't heard him tried to explain it at all somebody says that sounds like utter BS well keep in mind that the people were saying that the Obama administration wanted that prosecutors fired keep in mind that there's a speech by the Ambassador saying exactly that so it's not somebody speculating they read the ambassador's speech and it says that all right if that's fake news I'll be surprised but not shocked I suppose you know nothing shocking more but I'd be surprised let's

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shocking more but I'd be surprised let's talk about China very quickly I think China is done at least in terms of the decoupling and here's what I mean if you're a company that's operating in China it's kind of hard to leave you know they probably have their tentacles in you you've got your supply chain set up it would cost a billion dollars to move anywhere there's favorable this or that the employment is good it's our it's hard to move out of China let me ask you this what major company in the United States what American company could move into China from this day forward when was the last time you heard an American company announced they were moving into China with production I think it's over because if you're an American company what do you care about the most let's say you're a sizable company I'm not

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say you're a sizable company I'm not talking about you know some startup here or there but if you're a major company in the United States what do you care about the most what you care about is not making a mistake so existing companies that are doing a fine and we're profitable are mostly concerned with not messing up now of course they're working on their new product and you know they're trying to sell stuff so they're still growing and moving forward of course but if they have an established product they're probably more concerned with not messing up what would be the worst thing an American company could do today the worst thing an American company could do for its own reputation is move into China move production there when was the last time you heard some of the announces they were doing it if they're doing it they're doing it quietly and I think they'd be afraid of getting caught so

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they'd be afraid of getting caught so there might be a few people who maybe had things in the pipeline for a long time we're just staying under the radar it's like yeah we are moving into China but let's not talk about it let's just sort of sneak in there under the radar I'm sure that's happening but at this point China is corporate America poison there's no company that would take the hit of moving into China from this day forward because we know about the Weig ours the Holocaust we know about what they're doing to Hong Kong we know they're not paying their sovereign debt from years ago their their their bonds we know that they're stealing IP we know that their trade deals are crazy and we know that they're sending fentanyl to this country and killing tens of thousands of people tell me which American brand which which you know established American company is

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you know established American company is going to move into that it's already over here's a little economics lesson for you it's what this will be one of the most useful things you ever hear you ready it's the direction that counts now that sounds like a trivial thing I just said and it's gonna take you a long time to understand how profound that are that is where your economy is so we're talking about the economic realm wherever things are in any portion of the economy is important it's important where things are but you know it's really important where they're heading if you had say a million dollars but you were investments we're losing two percent a year you're getting poorer it's the direction that matters the direction matters and the direction for China in terms of American companies moving in it's over there's

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companies moving in it's over there's only one direction that will ever move from this point on assuming China stays China and becomes you know is is toxic and impossible for our brands to mesh with because it'll ruin your brand so I feel as though the job is sort of done I mean obviously keeping the pressure on but I don't think any American company could take the hit at this point of moving into China I think I think we could call that assess now if you hear that there's an American China an American company making a new decision not one that they had made long ago but a new decision to begin the process of moving production into the United States let me know because in my capacity as the Dilbert guy I'll see if I can give them a really hard week I promise you if you find me a major American company that's just now talking about moving into China I'll come down

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about moving into China I'll come down on them like a frickin hammer and it won't be fun for them no CEO wants that kind of trouble so I think they're done
that is just about all I had yes I think any company that moves into China at this point is just a bunch of grifters grifters I say somebody says Tesla is moving into China the I I think there probably are a variety of companies that are so big and have something in motion that that's going to be hard to change but let me ask you do you think Elon Musk wants to have production in China you know if you were talking to him privately you said Elon do you regret I don't know by the way I don't know what Tesla is doing in China I'm just looking at your comments some of you keep mentioning

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comments some of you keep mentioning Tesla like like they have production or they're moving there but whatever they have or don't have or planning to have do you think privately that Elon Musk would be happy about associating his brand with China I don't think so that would be like is there a worse thing you can associate with right now they have the worst brand of any country that is sort of in the top 10 of countries so somebody somebody says that my mind reading I'm not migrating I'm asking you you have the question do you believe that if you sat in a room with them and asked them do you believe he would say oh yeah I like I like associated my brand with fentanyl China I mean he might like you said I can't read his mind but what are the odds what are the odds that somebody's going to say yeah I like my

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somebody's going to say yeah I like my brand to be associated with a Weger Holocaust the the complete you know dishonorable way they're treating hong kong who also associated with any of that okay that's enough of that as anybody have any questions because the news is all about this stuff
somebody says we should airdrop handguns into china yeah I don't know Oh so some people online kept pointing me toward a Michael Bloomberg interview in which he seemed to be somewhat supportive of China I think he's said that chairman she was not a dictator that's a little bit true the Chinese system is sort of like a corporation I've compared the Chinese

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corporation I've compared the Chinese political system to a major corporation and here's how that's true a major corporation hires their CEO but the Board of Directors can also fire the CEO it is however often very hard because the CEO can pack you know his or her cronies onto the board and so the board is really becomes just supportive of the CEO so there's some risks but I think Bloomberg is at least a little bit right at least conceptually that the Chinese system even though she is appointed for life should he become unstable or not get the job done I do think that the Board of Directors you know the the Communist Party that the top leaders of the Communist Party the oligarchs the people who have power just below she they would do something about it so he is he's a dictator so long as he's getting the job done and so long as probably he's

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and so long as probably he's the courts with you know his cronies but he's not he's not invulnerable I do think the Chinese system would allow that let's say he he lost his faculties I don't think it would take long for him to be replaced so that is an advantage of the Chinese system and one of the things that they are they're really good at is they have a lot of engineers and rational people in their government and so they see the world in sort of engineering ways and I think that contributes to the fact that if they did have a problem with their leader the leader wasn't getting it done for China I think they could get rid of him without any bloodshed with just one day we would hear there was gonna be a change I think that's all here what's with this Cristina and Scott scope so Christina and I are planning something very much very fun I don't want to give it away yet because it'll be more fun if you see it but it won't be you like a

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you see it but it won't be you like a normal YouTube channel and it won't be like a normal pair of scope it's going to be something more fun than that and that's all I'll tell you we're working on that maybe something by the end of October because there's a whole bunch of preparation work we've built out the studio so I have the studio in this set and the sound and the lighting all done and we're going to do some test runs and the we're going to have that little higher production value than what you're used to where can I get your book on audio just go to amazon.com or anywhere that one of your books are sold the new one is available for pre-order somebody says is the Lenski a better persuader than Trump well probably not better but he's certainly in the same class he certainly asked that the skill stack etc

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certainly asked that the skill stack etc when will Jake let you do the show well it wouldn't be you know Jake's Jake Tapper's decision to do that so CNN management I've heard from my sources the CNN producers don't care for me hard to believe but my sources tell me not Jake he's not my source to that but other sources tell me that I'm not loved over at CNN and it's hard to believe but Baba can you two talk about how you met we met a Safeway grocery store and she she lived she lives nearby but bummer her house is nearby let's say what's your opinion on the Ukraine Treaty I don't know about that you made fun of him to

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know about that you made fun of him to to to to all right I'm looking at your comments here and if I see anything interested in next moment I'll answer it or somebody is heading to a thorium nuclear conference all right yeah so all of the some of you want to talk about Bill pulled a and co2 vets and all that I'm kind of not interested in that I'm just not interested let's just say there was some misunderstandings back and forth some feelings got hurt people said things I don't know let's move on move on to something better somebody says why do you not liked Warren well I've never said I didn't like her what I've said is that she doesn't have a chance of winning I think the top three candidates the ones who

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the top three candidates the ones who are polling at the top are the three with the least two chance of beating the president let me say that again the top three people in the Democrats polls are the three people least likely to beat the president I'll bet if you took the Democrat polling and just turned it upside down and you put the one-percenters at the top they would actually have a good shot it would actually have a shot yeah if if you put let's say Delaney if you put Delaney in the nomination he'd have an actual shot Amy Klobuchar I don't know she has some likability issues although I like her but she's not connecting with people I don't know what what's up with that so I think Delaney could beat him I think yang could be dumb who are the others that you know the ordinary governor's they would have a chance now

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governor's they would have a chance now I don't think I I think I in the long run I think the president would probably prevail over anybody in the race but if they want to have a shot Delaney is probably the only shot they have Oh Tulsi maybe Tulsi I think Tulsi would have a shot yeah you know she might have one of the better shots for some reason Tulsi Gabbard has she has a lot of what I call irrational support in other words there's something about her her vibe or her brand that does make people support her in a way that doesn't seem connected to her policies or anything and that's a good thing so as a politician having people sort of just want you to win that's a good thing Harris continues to demonstrate a complete lack of talent now let me tell you the pathway for Harris to win the nomination but not not

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Harris to win the nomination but not not the general the pathway for Harris looks like this Bernie drops out and whoever is advising Bernie or at least a few of them start advising Harris and she pays attention to him that this probably Ola would take Harris's problem seems to be that she either has terrible advice or she's not taking good advice wouldn't you agree I don't know if people can tell her to change her her vibe can they tell her to stop laughing at around jokes can't they tell her to be interesting when she tweets it feels like she's the NPC of of candidates there's something completely empty about the way she presents herself it just seems empty there's just nothing

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it just seems empty there's just nothing there it's almost like you're seeing a you know a formless figure go by just nothing that's catching on whoever's advising Bernie and maybe Warren - as long as soon as one of the top three drops out it's going to free up some advisors some of those advisors are gonna you know spread off to different people but Harris is completely unadvised or she's not taking advice my guess is that because she's a lawyer and a senator she knows how to take advice would you say wouldn't if you had to pick one of these two possibilities which one is it would you say that Harris is getting really good advice and she's ignoring it or somehow can't execute it or do you think she's not getting the advice which of those do you think is more likely I think it's more likely that she and hers and her

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more likely that she and hers and her advisers never see things such as you know this periscope yeah they they would have their own little silo I don't think they know what she's doing wrong and I don't think they're telling her to do anything differently if she ever got somebody who could talk to her honestly and say look your tweets are like watching the grass grow just make them interesting for a change and stop laughing at yourself act calm then smile make your points have some catchy things that that you know people can grasp on to make it more visual and it would be easy it would be easy to coach her up to the big leagues it would take 24 hours in 24 hours you could turn her whole campaign around if she listened and the advice was good if it were good all right that's about all I got to say and I I do

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that's about all I got to say and I I do have a interesting surprise coming I'll just tell you that there's a surprise coming it's a something you know about a story that I've been talking about but has a little surprise and I can't wait to tell you I hope I can and maybe I won't be able to but I hope I can and I'll talk to you later