Episode 672 Scott Adams: Jake Tapper Drawing Dilbert This Week, “Worse Than Watergate” guy, Ukraine

Date: 2019-09-23 | Duration: 45:49

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My new book LOSERTHINK goes on sale 11/5. Pre-order: https://bit.ly/2NRammu Jake Tapper and I are raising funds for a worthy charity Veteran Support Group: Homes For Our Troops Hate tweets for charitable efforts? Jake Tapper’s talent stack is impressive, like Hannity’s All communication is influence Communication and influence…are the SAME THING PM Modi introduced President Trump in absolutely glowing terms Influence grade persuasion for leader of BOTH countries Ukraine “whistleblower” did NOT hear anything personally A “Stages of Grief” model for Democrat stories The pattern repeats, never reaching acceptance Mark Schneider is correct… SAFE nuclear power cures BOTH eco-anxiety & climate change Mark is correct, per my understanding of economics Children being terrified for political advantage should STOP Those children need to be deprogrammed

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[Music] I'm pumpin pumpin Papa welcome to coffee with Scott Adams it's gonna be lit today lit I tell you do people still say that it feels a little dated can somebody give me a more modern reference so I can pretend to be with it hey everybody take a seat we're gonna get into some fun stuff today you know it and it's gonna be so good because we're gonna start it with a little thing I call the simultaneous if yes if you'd like to play along and I know you do if you'd like to join in on the simultaneous if you don't need much all you need here's a cover of Megara glasses Diana jealous of tankard a thermos flask we can't you know Grail the goblet a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee go oh oh so you may have seen my tweet

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go oh oh so you may have seen my tweet this morning that Jake Tapper of CNN is drawing Dilbert for the week the comic arts that Jake draws so I wrote I wrote the words Jake to the art so if you don't think they're funny that would be that would be my fault not Jake's and just to be clear about that so I wrote them Jake drew them he drew them in his own style so they don't look like the same characters exactly but you'll you'll recognize them and that's part of the fun is that he gets to reimagine that universe in a whole different visual way now I don't think the little purpose of it is that they will be framed and then auctioned off so you can get our signatures on on both of them and they will be framed if you'd like to find out more about that go to my pinned it tweet and you'll see a link over to homes for our troops now homes for troops is not just

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now homes for troops is not just a veterans organization but they take care of some of the the hardest cases people have lost arms and legs people who need special situations for their housing and I'll tell you how I looked at this now I can't can't speak for Jake so I'll just speak for myself but it's probably fair to assume there's something like this was happening in his mind but I can't speak Korean you know one of the one of the most basic sort of principles is it a principle or a practice you decide of our American experience is that we don't leave warriors behind right if you're in the military and even if somebody goes down if their dad if they're wounded we don't leave we don't leave if it's like one of the most basic principles that keeps our our countries so safe because would you join the military and would you serve your country if you

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would you serve your country if you thought you would be left if you thought there was even a chance if you thought there's any chance you would be left behind would you serve well some wood some wood of course but I kind of think that it's part of the glue that holds civilization together is that if you do this stuff for the benefit of the country we will make you one promise we won't leave you there that's it it's like it's like the primary promise and so these warriors who are coming home badly wounded it doesn't seem like they're all the way home so when I look at this situation and probably Jake has a similar feeling we could do a little bit more so that's what we're doing now for your amusement I would like to read to you some of the comments from the internet over this project now keep in mind that the entire point is to help

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mind that the entire point is to help badly wounded veterans it should be pretty obvious that that's the point all right but and people also are quite aware that that CNN and my brand have some conflict but that's not what that's about because the highest principle is you don't leave people behind so we're operating on that principle sort of the civilian version of that where once they're home they're still not all the way home you got it you got to bring them all the way home if you can so you know we're at operating on just trying to be useful because people in the public eye we have some extra we have some extra tools that the average person doesn't have we can get a lot of attention so we're using our tools get a lot of attention help the veterans but here are some of the comments so you see you know what kind of a world you you're living in so there's the the worst comments are on

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there's the the worst comments are on Jake's tweets so Jake tweeted it this morning I did my own my own tweet so the comments under my tweet tend to be fairly supportive but anti Jake and as you might as you might imagine the comments under his feet are more anti me so I'll just read the ones that are anti me so keep in mind the noble cause and it's obvious this is for good purposes everybody who's making these comments knows the the Jake and I did a bunch of work and putting our time and effort and reputations on the line to try to do something useful and these are the comments we got Hey look it's a cyst white male privilege on parade and there's somebody who comes in who has a whole bunch of rumors about me he says so this is somebody saying this about me he says rape is a natural instinct for men now keep in mind that these are

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men now keep in mind that these are never things I've ever said these are things people imagined I said about a blog post there was a parody that people didn't know as a parody years ago I saw nothing nothing that this guy says is actually representative of my opinion but this is what he comes in to do he comes in to destroy me on a charity project all right and then this guy says I got a Jake you're rich you're on TV every day you get to hobnob with the elite it's got to be fun but the rest of us have to live outside of DC where men like Scott Adams just view this and then he's got some more spewing there all right I was hoping this was straight-up satirizing Scott Adams now is just too dumb to get it but instead you chose to promote him that's not what he's doing nobody's promoting everybody except the charity but instead you chose to promote him and attempt to restore credibility and legitimacy to him and his opinions wait are you telling me I

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his opinions wait are you telling me I lost my legitimacy I didn't even know this is my worst day ever according to Rando on Twitter I've lost my legitimacy my credibility but maybe maybe this whole charity thing can get it back this question to Jake on internet why are you partnering with that loon have you asked Scott how he feels about your network and your peers Jake you might want to look into that before you do our comics with him these are not helpful people these are not helpful people here's another one so this isn't this is the same guy who misrepresents my opinion he says or this one so he's he's inferring that this is my opinion where he says if you can't hug women he'll have to start killing them does that sound like something I might have actually said no I have never said or

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actually said no I have never said or implied or thought that if I am unable to hug women I will have to start killing them that's what somebody's actually roped in public about me all right
somebody else says glad you're supporting a guy meaning be me being the guy glad you're supporting me I use the mass shooting to promote his Apogee well that's not exactly what I did I made it I made a tool available a time when it would be useful okay
doot-doot-doot to the cause is admirable your choice of partners is highly unfortunate very disappointed unn smiley face yeah then somebody else came in one of my followers and said you're disappointed two friends came together for a good cause you're the hater you're the problem somebody else says I like it

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the problem somebody else says I like it but working with Scott Adams strikes me as questionable not a good look
let's see Oh phew people saying positive thing and somebody saying it's very good comic oh it looks like most of the bad people would away somebody'll says this guy is Trumpy why do you give them any publicity all right
gross oh man so apparently there's no such thing as doing a good thing in public anymore because there there are very broken people out there who are not veterans who are happy to criticize anybody trying to do anything positive but I will I will die on this following Hill that when it comes to the veterans all

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that when it comes to the veterans all that political stuff has to go away right all the political stuff has to go away now I'm gonna further blow your mind by saying some good things about Jake Tapper which are true these are all true good things I talk about talent stacks a lot and how if you if you pile together a variety of talents that work well together you become extraordinary even if each of those individual talents is maybe not the best one in the whole world but there are very few people who had to have that car Jake's I believe his background his education he's a historian so he knows history he's obviously great on TV he's got the look he's got the writing skill he wrote a novel he's a cartoonist he's a better artist than I am and he's used all those skills for his show he's one of the best examples you'll see of a talent stack now just to make it fair taking the politics out of it and just

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taking the politics out of it and just talking about the skill set here Sean Hannity is another one Sean Hannity has more skills in one person but you're it's amazing you know same thing with Jake they have so many different skills put together but if you were to say okay what's the one thing Hannity is like the best of the world that and I say well I don't know it's not one thing is that he's got a good look he talks well you know presents well he's you know obviously writes well he said best-selling books he does radio he does TV he's apparently brave enough to say things he understands I mean you you I could probably go on for about 20 more things this Sean Hannity has a set of talents now the people who don't like his program will say well but certainly the people you see all right let's talk

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the people you see all right let's talk about the news do you ever wonder if Democrats wake up ever like in the modern moment let's say the moment as any Democrat ever awakened this week you know got up and like oh let's check the news and they check the news and pretty much everything's going right there's no bad economic news we're not really we're not really close to or I mean we're not really going to attack Iran and if we did it would be some pinpricks it feels like how do they reconcile their original predictions of how things would go after Trump with how things have gone so far because you know the first few months you could say oh well he's getting lucky or it's a overflow from all the goodness from Obama but year after year doesn't it get harder to

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year after year doesn't it get harder to hold on to the fact that you predicted a hundred percent of everything wrong about him and they're just none of it is coming to pass now I think if you ask them they say it's all coming to pass oh it's all coming to pass and they were there we have to work pretty hard to make that true I think they say stuff like income inequality got worse I know does anybody even care about that anymore when was the last time you saw a protest about income inequality it's like it doesn't even matter anymore as long as people have jobs and they're doing well they care a lot less about other people it turns out so I just wonder about the psychology of being so wrong in the face of the facts that things are going great now one of the ways that you know things are going great is that this I'm going to tell you what the worst news is here's the worst news on the major political sites number one blah blah blah the Emmys like that's as major news

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blah the Emmys like that's as major news the Emmys okay what else well mostly this Ukraine thing there's basically nothing else happening just the Ukraine thing so let's talk about that because the there's something about the Ukraine situation the somehow captured everything else have you ever noticed that oh yeah we'll talk about Modi remind me again that was that was a great situation there so here's the thing that's happening with the Ukraine situation you know you all know the story the president made a phone call with the president of the Ukraine and tried to get him to investigate Biden and Biden's son's involvement in Ukraine and some people say that he was being he was
was and if you did let's hear it so here it is here's a statement this came off of CNN I forget which commentator but if Trump used his power to try to coerce a foreign leader into influencing US

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foreign leader into influencing US elections it could precipitate the worst political crisis of a presidency that has been mired in notoriety from its first hours so here's the frame that people are just beginning to realize but we haven't quite realized yet are you ready now if you've been watching this periscope for years you know that I sometimes accurately predict things you know as much as a year ahead sometimes longer here's what's going to happen and how the news cycle is going to start evolving are you ready for this all communications is influenced at the moment we're treating them like they're separate things but we know they're not and it just takes somebody like me to say it a few times before other people say oh yeah all communication is influenced so if the President of the United States let me give you some examples to fill out my point let's say

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examples to fill out my point let's say let's say four months before the elections of 2020 China decides to sign a trade deal would they be in would they be interfering with our elections and would we say that the President may have influenced China to influence our elections yeah people will say that because every single thing a president does if it involves a foreign leader is trying to influence them they're trying to influence us it's all an influence job and you could use words like coerce persuade influence cajole deal it's all that same realm all conversations between leaders are influence conversations even if they're talking about the weather they're trying to get to know each other they're trying to influence so the only reason that this Ukraine story is a story is because people can't realize that communication

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people can't realize that communication and influence are always the same thing you can't do anything with another country on that level that isn't influence and obviously influence I'm not talking about was I'm some weird you know academic way you could determine its influence I mean it's directly obviously observably a study of influence as soon as we lose lose our childlike belief that communication can happen separate from influence at this level here I'm just talking about world leaders doing world leader Li things as soon as we lose that simple childlike view that some of it is influence and some of it is not because it's all influenced every every single word every gesture the clothes they wear the places they meet every single part of every interaction is designed intentionally for its influence on the world so let's take for example one of let's say one of

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take for example one of let's say one of our allies France says something positive or negative about President Trump are they influencing elections in this country yeah they are how about Modi comes to the United States he's a seems to be great personal friends with drop they get along great some for some reason their personalities are just apparently you know we can't tell that what's really happening but by all observations their personalities are just a perfect fit they just seem like boom and you can see that everybody was commenting on that this is not an original observation on my part everybody was saying that if you didn't see the introduction that Modi gave into this huge rally type crowd where he introduced the president with such glowing terms you could only imagine no you not imagine any reasonable observer would conclude that that the leader of

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would conclude that that the leader of India was influencing American elections what else was it now I'm not saying that's bad I'm saying that we have to grow up because that's just what it is you know everything suppose he had said suppose Modi had said instead I am NOT going to visit the United States because your president is a bad person blah blah blah you could easily imagine that happening right imagine all of the Indian American voters of which obviously there are a lot it was a whole stadium filled with people who are there to see Modi as well as Trump imagine all of them hearing their their Prime Minister back in India you know where they may have been born or at least they may have some family connections through their parents or whatever telling them that our president is so bad they won't even you won't even visit just

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even you won't even visit just hypothetically that didn't happen the opposite of that happened wouldn't that wouldn't that influence the election of course it would of course it would did Modi's great attitude toward our president influence the election absolutely of course was it intended to do that well in the sense that all politics are about reelection or election I mean everything's really oriented toward that because that's the system we built there all of the politicians are supposed to be trying to get elected that that's not the secret plan that's explicitly what we hire them to do do such a good job create such a good image that we want to reluck you or elected that's your job so they're just out there doing their jobs but can we imagine that the president's one phone call with the President of the Ukraine had any impact that was nearly as large

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had any impact that was nearly as large as every time he visits a foreign leader or vice versa how can you compare Modi's visit which was enormous influence on our election it was enormous influence on our election how do you compare that we're we're all watching it's all obvious and you know but because it's just two leaders acting friendly to each other you say to yourself oh that's no no that's just normal stuff well it is normal stuff for leaders to be friendly with each other but the the level of camaraderie that you're seeing between these levels is influenced great it's meant to influence both domestic populations and I would argue it's doing a good job but doing exactly that and of course the other big example is did the Brits influence our election through Christopher Steele through anything that they did the answer is yes of course and how about do

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answer is yes of course and how about do we influence elections in France and Israel and Great Britain yes all the time do you think it doesn't matter to people in Israel that Trump and Netanyahu got along well of course it mattered and mattered a lot it's all influence so the children in the room are looking at this conversation between leaders and saying if it was meant as influence and if it could have had an impact on the election it's something terribly terribly wrong here's me recasting that same statement if it was meant as influence and if it was meant to influence the elections it would be like every other interaction between leaders oh they're all they all have that same nature they all influence elections if you do it wrong it's bad for you if you do it right it's good for you so we should break out of this child

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you so we should break out of this child frame of imagining that communication between leaders is ever influenced Freight or that is ever not about the election because that's always about the election all right some that the funniest part of the story is I don't know about you but I love watching the anti-trump pers trot out a new theory that's going to take down the president this time this time we got him okay the last ten times those didn't count this time this time we got him and then watching you fall apart in the usual ways you know it always starts with the the bombshell from the Washington Post of the New York Times and we're not gonna give you any names you sure we're not gonna name any names of our sources but it's a bombshell and then the rumors started and everybody piles in and it's the biggest story and then stuff starts trickling out one of the things that trickle down to over the weekend I think was that the so-called

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weekend I think was that the so-called whistleblower the person who is complaining about the Ukrainian phone call wasn't there he didn't hear it heard it from someone else okay now that doesn't mean that he heard it wrong but it changes how you feel that it does that he wasn't in the room he didn't hear the actual words he heard someone else's description of the words do you think of it the same anymore no because whoever told them the words didn't quit whoever reported to the whistleblower this is what the president said that person didn't quit and they shoulda quit if they had a problem with it otherwise they were just talking in other words they didn't have a problem with it which is part of the story too so they bring out Carl Bernstein this is CNN they bring out Carl Bernstein to compare it to Watergate now Elizabeth kubler-ross

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to Watergate now Elizabeth kubler-ross many years ago developed the what is it these seven phases of acceptance for death you know if somebody dies who's close to you you go through the seven levels of or is a is it your own death it's one of those if your own death is approaching there's the there's the bargaining and there's the denying you know you go down the the seven levels of you know denial before you get to acceptance and one of these seven layers of of whatever this is it's terrible analogy but as you watch conspiracy theories or or charges against the president whether it's Russia collusion or anything else as you watch them disintegrate in front of you they go through this predictable phase stages of grief oh thank you and in the comments people telling me I should have said stages of grief Elisabeth kubler-ross but one of the stages of

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kubler-ross but one of the stages of grief for a a charge against the president that's dying is you wheel out Carl Bernstein to say it's a lot like Watergate I'm positive you don't bring that guy out unless you know you know your you know your charge against the president is dying so he's like a he's like he's like the Angel of Death for an impeachable offense so if somebody says hey president Trump made an impeachable defense stage one anonymous sources stage to a little bit of softening of the story it's like well the whistleblower didn't hear it but he did talk to somebody who told them about it that's stage two stage three is somebody pointing out that it wasn't illegal even if all this even if all the reporting is accurate which we've had it's like what's the difference if he did it

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what's the difference if he did it that's just a president talking to another leader he can say anything he wants it's legal it's expected it's normal alright at that point it's obvious that there's no impeachable thing here so the next stage of grief is you will out Carl Bernstein to say what are we talking about well the thing is his echoes of Watergate
and then they sort of wheel amount say okay thanks thanks Carl that's great and then of course the the stage of grief right after the the Bernstein Watergate guy is I think you know this is the Mitt Romney stage where they bring in Mitt Romney to show that there's even a Republican who was who is a fact that was terribly worried about whatever this

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was terribly worried about whatever this behavior is so I think we've reached the the Romney stage of grief where Romney and pretty much only Romney thinks there's a big problem here and then I think the stage after that would be look over here and then the stage after that the last stage of grief is it really did happen you just you're you're talking about it wrong now we swear the thing we said happened it did happen yeah I know all the facts say it didn't but it really did it happened anyway so that's the phase we haven't gotten to yet but we're getting there all right here's the here's my question there are two possibilities for this whole Biden hunter Biden thing and Ukraine one possibility is that nothing was done wrong by anyone what are you agree I'm s possibility I

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what are you agree I'm s possibility I don't know what the details are and I could easily be convinced that that maybe it looks bad but nothing illegal happened I can easily be convinced of it I could also easily be convinced that there is something there I'm making a general statement I'm not telling you what I think is likely or what I hope is likely I'm just saying two possibilities either a hunter Biden did something terrible or hunter Biden did nothing at all and by the way those same possibilities apply to you and me maybe I murdered somebody this morning maybe I didn't always two possibilities and I asked you under either of those conditions wasn't it still a good idea for Trump to ask about it because you still need to know you need to know which it is don't you and suppose Ukraine said yeah we'll look into that okay we looked into it turns out it was just business as normal wouldn't you need to know that but suppose it was the other way wouldn't

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suppose it was the other way wouldn't you also need to know that because otherwise you might end up with Biden getting elected and being owned by Ukraine why isn't anybody saying that except me if Biden got elected and we had not looked into this Ukraine whatever business is going on and honestly I don't know what the hell's going on over there I'm totally confused about the story everybody else's too I think but if Biden got elected wouldn't we have to wonder if somebody had some stuff on him and it's over into Ukraine oh it means Russia has it now that's that's a jump right but I'm assuming that Russia has figured out how to get into Ukraine's business meaning in the in the spy sense so I would think that if Ukraine had some good stuff on Biden and I'm not saying they do I think it's terribly unfair to assert that like it's true we can only say that the question has been asked but you know you could ask me if I murder somebody this morning

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ask me if I murder somebody this morning it doesn't mean I did it just means you ask the question so I don't like I don't like to throw a bunch of unearned guilt in the Biden direction but we certainly needed to know now you might ask yourself why does the president have to ask that question yeah oh well here's the other thing was suppose that's not the reason that Trump is asking the question it doesn't matter it doesn't matter at all it even if Trump's mind the only reason they was asking is to win an election so long as it was all so perfectly with him the scope of his duties is still fine it would be like what if the president boosted the economy so he could get reelected well you wouldn't complain about that because that's his job right what if he protect from terrorism and it was just to get elected well that's okay that's how the system works he's supposed to work on getting elected but part of that is just

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getting elected but part of that is just doing his job and this was absolutely his job so whether or not you believe that the reason he was doing his job was for his own personal interest completely irrelevant the system allows him to pursue his self-interest he did it in front of lots of witnesses so long as it's also his job that's how it works all right so this is another one of those stories is too complicated for the public to follow of law sort of like Russia gate so it allows us to just retreat to our bias anytime you add complexity to a story it just allows people to retreat to their team and say well my team was right I don't know what's going on here but my team is right so that's what's happening you're not seeing anybody who's got any kind of a reasoned opinion on any of this stuff so there I keep seeing stories about the youth of this country are having Eco anxiety in other words

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are having Eco anxiety in other words they're so worried about climate change that they're actually having mental health issues like legitimate mental health issues it's not a laughing matter these are these are children being damaged by the games that adults are playing and adults are I say games because climate change is a sort of a political football and in order for the adults to sell their version of climate change to other adults it necessarily ends up scaring the kids to death maybe literally I mean I can't if you scare enough kids somebody's gonna die because of at least one it's a big country and so and so I saw a tweet from March nighter are are one of our favorite nuclear energy advocates and he pointed out that nuclear energy is actually the cure for

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cure for Iko anxiety and i thought about it was like that's actually true if you were to actually accurately describe the risks of the new generations you know the current and new current and future generations of nuclear energy and you were to tell children accurately hey children is the safest technology we have for energy every other technology has killed more people and here's the thing no matter what happens with with the planet even the most aggressive estimates are that we'll be better off in the future not worse kids don't understand that when kids hear that the climate is going to heck what they hear is that the world is going to go bad that their experience of life will be worse than the ones before here's the thing even the climate experts are not

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thing even the climate experts are not saying that the climate the the best estimate on economics is that over the next 80 years the GDP will be 10% less than it could have been but it will still be maybe five to ten times better than it is now so the number of people who will be poor in the future no matter what the climate does is going to go way down the number of people who have a better life is probably going to continue going up as it has through most of human history and certainly modern history so who is teaching the children that they're doomed bad teachers any teacher who understood the math of it wonders the history of it who understood that nuclear energy is just sitting there waiting to be used to solve the problem it is we already have the solution to climate change we have it who's telling the kids that we already have the solution to it and it's nuclear energy all right now obviously there are

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all right now obviously there are government reasons and political opinion and public opinion and all that so the things that need to be solved but they're fairly minor compared to whatever the children are worrying about fate of the planet they will be better off almost in every situation I'll bet I'll bet there isn't one climate for guests that doesn't also have those same children better off in the future they're just not as better off as maybe they couldn't bet that's the claim that's their claim that's that's not even me reinterpreting what they're saying or anything that's their explicit public primary claim the things will be a lot better but they could have been even a little bit better so it almost makes me wonder if I need to fix this meaning that this is a communication problem that children need to be

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problem that children need to be deprogrammed so perhaps I could write a one-pager to put the let's say that the child version of what I just said into an easy to digest maybe a page is too much and maybe two paragraphs would be maximum because remember it's kids so you have to really shrink it down to its tiniest little thing so why don't we tell kids that if they promote the modern version of nuclear energy not the old the old stuff that was dangerous but the modern version if they promote that and if they know that carbon scrubbing technologies are a thing they should feel good because not only is our generation not destroying the world our generation made the world a lot better don't you think would you agree that when I say our generation I'm gonna take my generation and every adult you know from let's say let's say from 40 to

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know from let's say let's say from 40 to infinity you know over 40 let's say the the over 40 generation which you you would argue had the greatest influence on that the way things are right now I feel like the world is way better if you look at the amount of poverty way down isn't everything better than it was 40 years ago 60 years ago I think everything's better and that's not going to change and the kids need to know that but here's the deal those kids are gonna be the ones changing it all right we did our job the greatest generation that was you know the one before me fought World War two built this country into something amazing I kind of think they did job I also feel like my generation did its job I think we did our job you know my generation was protesting the Vietnam War and apparently that worked we didn't do a good job with Iraq but I'm not sure that was the public that was more of the government so that's the

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was more of the government so that's the good news all right I feel like I have jabbered jabbered enough I'm jabbering all over the place I would like to put in the plug for my book loser think let me know let me tell you some true facts before you decide when you're gonna buy my book loser thing and before you decide if you want the audio book or the hard copy let me tell you a few facts in 2013 I published my book kind of failed almost everything still and big and I predicted at the time that people wouldn't understand when it was published how important it would be now that was the book that introduced the idea of systems being better than goals which I think you've observed has become a common public understanding since then that all came from me and then you have also heard the idea of the you've also heard the idea of the

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the you've also heard the idea of the talent stacks and that also came from me and that book now since then that was 2013 so that six years ago enough people have tried the ideas in the book that now they're getting back to me people are saying they got promotions they people have lost vast amounts of weight because using a system instead of a goal for weight loss and just these tremendous life changes people will start companies quit their job made a fortune I mean I hear I literally hearing this every day every single day somebody contacts me usually in social media and says your book changed my life then I wrote wind Binkley that came out about president Trump's of powers of persuasion and it wasn't just about Trump it was a book to teach you persuasion in a very approachable everyday way so you can see it happening to you you could use the same techniques for your own benefit for your business for your personal life and now I'm

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for your personal life and now I'm starting to hear those reports so enough time is going by that I can't tell you how many people read that book contacted me and said hey you know I'm wanted to want a better situation in my job and I would say well you know use some of those techniques in the book and then they get back to me and say I got a huge raise or I got a promotion so when bingley is actually totally changing people's lives that they are getting richer by using their negotiating powers and their persuasion powers and going out and getting stuff they're getting raises they're getting promotions they're doing things that they didn't they didn't feel they had the the tools to go get that thing and then would they realize that the tools are quite approachable once they've been explained to them then they could just take those into their Bossin next thing you know raise so my my new book that's available for presale loser thing is

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available for presale loser thing is written for the same general purpose meaning that it's meant to have a direct improvement on your life in this case to allow you to see the world in a clearer way so the loser think is unproductive ways of thinking and unproductive in this this context just means you don't have experience across a number of domains for example when I was just talking about climate change did you notice how I put an economic spin on climate change the reason I can do that is because I'm an economics major you know MBA etc so I've actually worked and lived in that world where you're doing projections so when I look at the economic projections I can just see a little bit deeper I can understand them with more texture then if I had never had that background now the argument is you don't need to have a degree in economics to get the basics for example it would be easy to learn about sunk

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it would be easy to learn about sunk costs it would take me a minute to explain it to you and then you'd know it forever it would it would take me maybe two minutes to explain the entire concept of the discounted value of money if you've never heard of it it's maybe maybe you should and to understand that money in the future is worth less than money today so there are probably a dozen or so basic ways of thinking that are common to different disciplines if you've never been exposed to them let's say you're let's say your channel and life had been art if you were an art major or let's say just a history major and you were looking at the world of politics you would be flying totally blind because you would be looking in one window the window that you learned your artists window or your history window or whatever you're looking in one window you're saying okay I see this house and it's a bathroom that's it I'm

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house and it's a bathroom that's it I'm only looking through one window all I see is a bathroom I gotta go that's a delivery but if you can see through more windows you can see the world better and that's what loser think is about teaching you're looking all the windows I hope you get it pre-order now on Amazon bye