Episode 671 Scott Adams: 3D Printed Guns, Invisible Biden Support, The Singularity Delicious Coffee

Date: 2019-09-22 | Duration: 36:53

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My new book LOSERTHINK goes on sale 11/5. Pre-order: https://bit.ly/2NRammu What to expect…when the computers rise and take over Jordan Peterson in rehab facility, once again he’s a role model Addiction is NOT related to intelligence New Apple iPhone 11…I’ve been seduced A delightful experience from packaging to product Jake Tapper will guest artist Dilbert this week, beginning Monday It’s for charity, to support a worthy veteran’s group 3D GUN MAKING…works pretty well Can governments control and prevent this technology? The future of 3D gun printing Elizabeth Warren is ahead of Biden in CNN Iowa poll Do you know ANYONE who supports Biden? Open borders: Ever met a supporter of open borders? FEAR is an effective persuader Candidates SCARE adults for their votes, all the time Adults SCARING KIDS into mental health issues… …to promote adult partisan politics, is heinous

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I'm pom pom pom pom pom hey everybody come on in grab a seat yeah it's time for a coffee with Scott Adams luckily that's me you came to the right place cuz that's what you're looking for even if you didn't know it so before we get going here before we start the best part of your day I know what you need you need a cup or a mug or glasses Stein is jealous of tanker to thermos Alaska Cantina Crale a goblet of vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I'm partial to coffee let's go for that simultaneous epic journey now for the dopamine yet that makes the rest of your day
day great go oh so I updated my phone I got myself a nice iPhone 11 the max and I usually skip a few new phones I don't I

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usually skip a few new phones I don't I don't get the new phones as it comes out I usually skip a few generations so I actually skipped from the phones that require you to put your fingerprint on to the phones that recognize you by face and I gotta tell ya it really sort of changes how you feel about your phone so now that I no longer need to put in any kind of password don't you need to use my thumb my phone is basically aware that is part of my body in a sense because when it's near me like my car does if I have my key in my pocket I come here in my car and the the accent lights come on my car knows when I'm near it which is freaky but now my phone does so I pick it up and look at it and it comes alive because it knows who I am and and here's where I'm going with this

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and and here's where I'm going with this you've heard of something called the singularity now the singularity is what all these smart people are afraid of people like Elon Musk are afraid that someday computers will get to the point where they're so smart that they can program themselves that they'll go from something like humans program to be predictably what we want them to do to something that will that will learn on its own and program itself and it will almost instantly become you know nearly omnipotent because the computers will will have such capability that no human could be a competitive species now here's the thing I believe that that day is coming when computers will be able to learn and increase their own knowledge and connect to other computers and learn everything that's ever been learned so I think that's going to happen here is why I'm not as afraid as some people I

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I'm not as afraid as some people I believe that by the time we get there the difference between human and computer will largely have vanished yeah.a didn't see that coming did ya that's right I'm not worried about the computers becoming sentient and wiping out people because at about the same time they become sentient they will actually be people so I think by then we will have done an experiment in which we can move your consciousness into a machine and that here's the fun part imagine if we could map your brain and move your consciousness into a machine and have the machine run for a little while have some experiences on its own and then could you put those memories back in the person I'll bet we can someday one way or another so I think that we're going to lose this distinction between a cold lifeless machine and a human who has this spark

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machine and a human who has this spark of life and a divine soul once we realize that the computers can do everything our divine soul can do we might not believe in divine souls so much so I'm not worried about the simulation because I think humans and computers will emerge into a combined species and by the time there is such a thing as computers that can learn and become infinitely smart so will i I will be a human who is part computer you know that the guts of my phone will become more and more integrated with Who I am whether whether I'm connected to it or not it'll be part of who I am and the moment all computers become sentient so too will that part of me so humans are never going to give give stuff away to computers because we will be computers for all practical purposes so that's my prediction you may have seen that in the news that Jordan Peterson checked into a

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news that Jordan Peterson checked into a rehab facility now I have a lot of feelings about that strangely enough one we wish him well apparently he got on some benzos klonopin I think it was his wife had a some had some cancer and things got tough and he got an addiction but he's getting help so here are the things I would say about Jordan Peterson if if ever there were somebody in the world that you thought had had his figured out you know I'm talking about life like how to do life right it felt like you should have been him because he's literally the most productive advisor of how to live off anyone on earth at this moment you know Tony Roberts has his own own deal but in terms of someone describing to you what life is all about describing to you how to live it well he's literally probably

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to live it well he's literally probably the most famous living person for telling you how to do things right and he got addicted and you had to go into rehab so here's what I take away from that people need to understand that addiction is not a choice in the normal way that we think of choice that once once the addiction becomes who you are in other words once you've added a certain type of addictive chemical to your body you're no longer a person who takes drugs you are a person who is part drug that's who you become so if the old Jordan Peterson could have said no to drugs once he took them presumably thinking they were it was a temporary situation once he took him he became the drug so it would not be fair to say hey Jordan Peterson you're so good with your advice for other people why don't you just you know toughen up and stop taking those drugs doesn't really work that way

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those drugs doesn't really work that way it doesn't work that way he's not a person who takes drugs he is a person who is part drug he's part chemistry and that chemistry includes the drug now that's who he is now he has to become a different person and that's what he's working through so I have only positive feelings about this weirdly it's it's tragic in a number of ways he's working through it but we wish him the best he probably has the strongest signal to noise ratio of anybody ever gonna watch I was just watching one of his videos for maybe the third time you've probably seen it this video where somebody asks him a question about climate change and he starts slowly and then he sort of gets he gets up to speed and it's sort of breathtakingly smart I guess I don't know another word to put on it and I say smart not in a way that it's gonna be you know intellectual conversation but rather he simply breaks down the topic

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rather he simply breaks down the topic in a way that people don't break it down so you can kind of see the landscape the way he describes it you go oh okay I'm starting to see it now the way you're describing it so here's the thing but Jordan Peterson is one of the most useful people in the universe meaning that when he talks and people listen to it they become better people it actually is that powerful and you've seen lots and lots of people who have said he's influenced in one way or another but now he's doing it again certainly this is not a path he would have chosen one assumes but because he he's sort of publicly confessing his addiction and then he's doing the the thing that you need to do which is get help he is once again becoming a role model for people who may think well do I have a weakness or you know what's going on
on Jordan Peterson was a you know a rich

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Jordan Peterson was a you know a rich successful smart capable guy who knew exactly the risks of the drugs he knew exactly he knew exactly the risks before he put them in his mouth he's not he's not a tourist he noticed the landscape did it anyway so that should tell you a lot about the nature of addiction for those people who people are always telling me hey it's not China's fault for shipping us fentanyl it'll people just have to stop taking it well you know that when you say that it shows that you don't know what addiction is nobody intentionally gets addicted nobody makes a choice to become an addict maybe somebody does but it's pretty rare all right I wanted to get back to my phone so I have the experience when I open my phone you you all know this to be true that Apple makes a big deal about their packaging and they make the experience of opening up your new product your new iPhone a

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up your new product your new iPhone a sensual delightful experience and you don't realize how delightful it is unless you do what I did which is I bought some accessories you know a screen you know screen protector and the case so I had three things to open one was the iPhone case and then the two other products I just mentioned I'm opening the iPhone I first I take it on this box it's just like this nice solid soft I mean actually feels good the box and I'm seems to be covered with selfie and I'm thinking ah Apple have you made a cell fame cover thing am I gonna have to get scissors to get through this and then I notice now there's a little little cellophane tab you just pick it and it goes yeah just this nice feel and sound as it comes off the box then the box is you know naked and you've got to take the top from the bottom and the top is as deep as the box and you start pulling it up and you feel the Box just sliding

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it up and you feel the Box just sliding over the bottom like I swear to god it's a sensual experience and I take it out and I see my phone and the phone is beautiful you know the design it's a marvel of engineering and I don't know if there were even any directions in there maybe like one sentence of directions or something had a load you new phone and it's all I needed all right now that was my iPhone experience right at the same time I got these other two packages so I'd pick up the first package and I'm like well let's see how hard it is to get into this and I can't I ended up chewing through the package like a beaver with my fingers not my teeth like I think I ripped off an inch by the time I'd opened the second package which was as bad as the first I hated the companies I hated the company so I

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companies I hated the company so I barely paid attention to it was because I didn't want to have somebody specific to hate Apple seduced me my first impression with his phone was so positive that I feel like I can forgive it for any future errors which it might have that's why Apple is a genius collectively and other companies are not so they gave me that good first experience and it was just amazing and then these other words I had to actually chew through the packaging until I hated their freaking guts I just one of those companies that died and that was my first impression of the product then I put on my case so I just ordered a random case at the same time I was getting the phone and didn't really think too much about it in the first case not this one the first case was a clear plastic and I thought I'll get a clear one so I can see my phone better but the clear one is also slippery who makes a phone case the slippery like I would try to set it up

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slippery like I would try to set it up you know leaned it against something and it would just go Boop and I'm thinking are you freakin kidding me you make phone cases and you never once saw what would happen after you put it on your phone it's completely useless so of course I had to buy a new one which is this one which has a rubber case so I can set it up and it won't slide down on the table anyway that's the difference between good design and bad design on Monday Dilbert is gonna look a little bit different in your newspaper and you're gonna say to yourself wha what's going on why does Dilbert look completely different it's gonna look different for a week because I have a guest artist that's right Jake Tapper of CNN is my guest artist for one week we did this once a couple years ago but we're doing it again and we're doing it for charity now before you say hey he works for CNN I don't like that Network

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works for CNN I don't like that Network let me tell you that it's for a Veterans charity specifically homes for our vets and what they do is they find homes they facilitate in variety of ways for the the most severely wounded veterans so these are the people who really need a special kind of a home and have a they have a need for some help so I would ask you to for the sake of the veterans to put aside any you know any political feelings you have about who's on what side or whether you agree with CNN or Fox News or any of that let's let's show the better part of being human which is Jake and I are working on this to try to see it's in his Ford auction the publicity this week will tell you if you want to bid on so you could buy Jake's original art along with the the sign the

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original art along with the the sign the sign to fight all the way around he'll sign it and I'll sign it as well I'm having it framed right now so we're getting those together yeah and then we'll put them up for auction anybody who wants to bid on them the money will go to a very deserving veterans organization now we have not announced this yet by the way so I'm saying it I'm saying they're here because I saw one of the local newspapers announced it just so the readers didn't get surprised and complain so it's sort of out there a little bit we'll start our publicity for that tomorrow but look for that and you might like it I'm having this online conversation with 3d gun advocates advocates not just people were talking about it I guess one of them is an advocate who's doing 11 3d gun making and the conversation online on Twitter goes like this guy says I can totally

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goes like this guy says I can totally make a gun with my 3d printer somebody else says no you can't that's not a thing you fired a few times and it'll melt down and and I can't take it then the guy who says I could make a gun with my 3d printer post a video of him shooting one of the many guns he's made on his 3d printer and it looks like it works pretty well now when I say three-peat 3d printed gun there apparently there's still some components which you have to get a different way some people say you have to get a barrel separately some people say you can for certain rounds maybe you don't need that so there's a technical argument about what is and is not possible but I'll tell you if you ever given in an argument with somebody who says 3d guns can't be made a good way to end that argument is to post a video of you shooting your 3d gun a lot of rounds so so there's definitely such thing as

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so so there's definitely such thing as 3d guns now here's the card reversal part which I have injected into the conversation what I say is that in the future because it will be too dangerous to have people printing off their own guns I've argued that the government will restrict the 3d printers from printing guns or possibly the companies themselves you know it doesn't have to be the government it could be the company themselves now I'm seeing it right here so people are saying BS BS you cannot restrict meaning that there would not be technically possible to restrict what you make on a 3d printer I would argue that the only thing only people who think that you can't restrict the type of designs on a 3d printer are people who do not have experience with technology meaning that they're not people who've ever worked in software

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people who've ever worked in software developments not anybody who's ever worked in that realm anybody who has worked in the software development realm can quite easily see how it could be done let me explain how the first thing you need to release on is that 3d printers in the future will be exactly like they are now just you know maybe more capable I'm not saying that I'm saying that the 3d printers that exist now yeah you probably couldn't restrict anything they can just get a pattern put it in the machine print it but I almost guarantee that where we're going with this and somebody screaming but you can hack it I'll get to you that I'll get to your bad opinion about hacking in a moment no way to control it can't be done let me explain how it can be done have you heard of the iPhone probably you have have you heard of it the app store probably you have

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of it the app store probably you have somebody says quit attacking the Second Amendment I'm gonna block you for putting a opinion into my acting as though that's my opinion when it's not alright have you ever do you know anybody who has illegal apps on their iPhone some of you are gonna say yes I do
do but not many right now compare that to how many people compare that to how many people have illegal music you probably know a lot of people who have downloaded illegal music probably you've done it too right so people said to me is have you never heard of Metallica you can try to prevent people from downloading things to their 3d printer but Scott Scott Scott you can't do it look at Metallica look at music piracy can't stop it Apple

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look at music piracy can't stop it Apple did Apple stopped it all you have to do is do the same same thing now why is it that music couldn't be stopped but Apple can totally stop you from having an illegal app for most of you some of you might be a high-end techy who can do a jailbreak you you've got some a little weird app you're running I'm not saying it can't be done I'm saying do you know anybody do any of your friends have apps on their iPhone that didn't come from Apple no here's the difference music does not contain code music cannot change the device it's playing on right you download music and put it on whatever device you're playing it on all the device can do is play it the device has not changed by the introduction of the music it simply plays it that's different than an app an app is software if you down saw if you download software to a device

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saw if you download software to a device whether it's a phone or any other device that software tells the device what it can and cannot do so here's what the future almost certainly looks like it looks like and Appstore for designs for your printer and chances are you will only be able to efficiently I'm not saying that a hacker can't break it but if the only people who can make a 3d gun are very highly incented hackers I'm not too worried about 3d guns because there's always somebody who can hack anything but there aren't many of them just like I don't even know anybody who has a illegal app on their phone I don't know anybody chances are I will never know anybody who personally used a 3d printer hack is so I didn't need to use just the special designs that come from the manufacturer and made a gun guaranteed it's gonna

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and made a gun guaranteed it's gonna happen but if you don't understand how if you don't understand how a friction works I don't know how do you understand your world and you see this argument in every realm somebody will say walls don't work because there was that one guy who clocked crawled over a wall one time to which I say I'm pretty sure walls work in the sense that it makes it harder to get over the wall and sometimes that's all you need you know how about gun control does gun control make it impossible to get a gun no but it has some friction and that friction could reduce some amount of damage possibly potentially don't know it's hard to pay to measure as somebody says is pretty easy to build your own 3d printer okay that is just ridiculous it

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printer okay that is just ridiculous it depends what you mean by pretty easy I will acknowledge this somebody with hacker like skills could put together a 3d printer and find their own designs somehow put it air and make a gun it just isn't going to be common so that's my argument that the 3d printers and let me put it this way in all likelihood the the printers that will be the good ones are going to be made by companies like Apple right sooner or later the 3d printer industry will consolidate just like tech always does there might be three major printers and you're gonna say to yourself you know I could make my own and it will be about 20% as good as the one I could buy from Apple if I want a 3d printer for general purposes I've got to get the Apple 3d printer it will restrict me from making a gun I'll be okay with that

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from making a gun I'll be okay with that right if I'm a hacker I'm gonna have the crappy printer probably it's gonna be lower quality it's gonna break after a few few uses it might it might require a special kind of you know whatever the goop is that gets printed you can have a lot of problems with your hacked a 3d printer so I'm not worried about it all right so Elizabeth Warren has pulled ahead in the Iowa polls she is distich elite ID but nominally she's a little bit head Abidin that's a big deal that is a big deal because psychologically it's telling people hey maybe Warren is the one and then I so I did a little poll on Twitter just this morning some of you saw it and I realized that I've I don't believe I know a Biden supporter right I just don't know that I know any Biden

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don't know that I know any Biden supporters so I did a poll it said do you know any because if something like 20 or 30 percent of all Democrats are favoring him you think I'd run into one like in a party maybe a relative and so I did the survey and 89 percent said they don't know anyone who's a Biden supporter and it makes me think that people are voting for Biden you know as that some way to beat but there's absolutely nobody who would be willing to say it in person I could I would love to have a conversation with somebody who's actually following the news not somebody who isn't paying attention so he's actually current with the news and have a private conversation where nobody else is watching and have them tell me that Biden is there is there a guy I don't think that's never going to happen because I don't know that that person actually exists you know obviously somewhere in the world or those people

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somewhere in the world or those people exist but they might be so uncommon you'll never meet one how weird is that
somebody was somebody was mocking me on Twitter just before I got on and saying oh there you go again Scot judging the world by what you personally can say or a worse side effect and they were saying they were mocking me for saying that there's no such thing long time ago I said this that there's no such thing as somebody who really is in favor of open borders and their point being it's obvious now that there are lots of people in favor of that to which I say I've never met one you would have to have me in a private conversation with nobody nobody listening in so that we're not judged by anybody watching us in a private conversation I want somebody to tell me that they're in favor of open borders now now when I say that I don't believe it's a thing and some of you are

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believe it's a thing and some of you are saying I've met somebody or I've seen somebody in the news you know or this governor or this so some of you believe that you've seen these people here's what I believe I believe you've said you've you know of people maybe even talk to people who have said things somewhat like that they're definitely people have said things which a reasonable person could interpret as meaning that they're in favor of open borders but I'll bet if you put them in the room with me and nobody is listening I'd say do you do you approve of open borders let's say they said yes what wouldn't my next question be do you also approve of universal health care probably they're gonna say yes and then I say you do know you can't have both right which would you prefer because if you have universal health care and open borders everybody at once health care just walks over the border and guess it then you can't afford it eventually so it's

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can't afford it eventually so it's guaranteed that it can't work together you can have one or the other and so when I say I've never met anyone that as far as I can tell is in favor of open borders unless you have that specific conversation in private I'm not willing to believe it yet just not willing to believe that such a person exists because I want somebody to look me in the eye and say yeah I think those both can work just fine I don't know anybody could say that with a straight face because some of you have say you met him but maybe I feel I'm more persuasive than your and I could talk them out of it in about a minute and a half all right that that is oh I had one more point as I've often said fear is a great persuader so it's always

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fear is a great persuader so it's always good for a politician I won't say good let's say effective I don't want to put a moral judgment on it it's effective for a candidate to scare you that some bad thing will happen unless they're elected elect me or we'll be attacked or one thing or another will happen so it's very common and we don't think too much about it because it's just part of the nature of it's it's the I'm sorry just read the comments this room you know what was I talking about oh here so it's very common that politicians use fear to persuade but when I was watching the youth strike there was what climate strike and the youth were out there very afraid about the future and I thought to myself it's probably fair to frighten and adults if

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probably fair to frighten and adults if you're trying to frighten them into action and you believe that the way you're you're frightening them is productive a little bit of fear might be a good thing I mean it might be an effective thing I'm not gonna say it's a good thing but when you intentionally scare children to get a political result that's just immoral in my view now morality is sort of subjective but I can't see a scenario in which someone with an underdeveloped brain should be scared to the point of mental health issues which is what's happening actual mental health issues so adults are scaring children into mental health issues and promptly not legitimately because if you add together the fact that nuclear energy plus carbon capturing scrubbing machines are coming online we get a lot going for us and I've got a pretty good feeling that

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I've got a pretty good feeling that we're not going to have a calamitous effect from climate change so yeah just everything about that was screamed of child abuse it really did somebody saying child abuse in the comments I didn't want to use that phrase but when I read it I thought yeah that's that looks like child abuse scaring children to the point of mental illness for what children don't they don't invent things you know and and then using them as a tool to convince other adults probably just about the worst thing you could ever do you know torturing children for the benefit of a political outcome how bad is that pretty bad huh anything else going on I talked about Jordan Peterson earlier I'm just reading your comments now

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Wow who's in charge of his in Israel by the way is Netanyahu's still there not paying attention too much probably matters so I understand that Iran is perhaps going to suggest some kind of a peace I know some kind of a deal and in the upcoming UN meeting do you think that Iran is going to offer any kind of a deal that doesn't start with get rid of the sanctions if it feels like that's just their starting point first give us everything we want second we'll think about giving you something somebody says teach you something from loser think well actually I just did I just didn't label it when I was talking about how friction always works it is loser thing to say but there's

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it is loser thing to say but there's that one hacker who could hack it or there's that criminal who could just steal a god or that's the motivated drug dealer who can't get over the the border wall every time you're talking about the exceptions you're just in the wrong conversation because everything has somebody who can beat the system but we create laws and systems and standards and all that because it will stop a lot of people you know we have we have laws against what thousands of different things and it doesn't stop people from doing those crimes laws are not intended to stop people from doing crimes fences and walls are not intended to stop all people under all conditions a any kind of a limit on 3d printed guns would never be intended to stop every person who could ever make a 3d printed gun that's not a thing so every time you argue that and you and it involves a whole lot of different topics every time you argue but what about the exception

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you argue but what about the exception you're not even in the conversation that's loser think loser think is to treat the exception as if that's as important as the main thing one is less important and if you don't do that all the costs and all the benefits you're not being very productive Oh somebody's asking Wall Jake Tapper is doing my comic strip so if you're joining late Jake Tapper is going to be my guest artist for Dilbert for the coming week this coming week I actually asked them that I asked him I said I said hey do you think I could maybe read the news you know you'd be a cartoonist now as soon as I asked I realized that that wasn't going to be practical so we're not going to do that we've that conversation just ended but I might I might do it anyway because I could just read the news here on periscope so thinking about putting on a suit and tie

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thinking about putting on a suit and tie and and doing Jake's job on periscope for one day I'll just read the CNN news just the headlines and just be a newscaster for a day but it wouldn't be I don't know if it would be as fun as it sounds in my mind so maybe I won't but you know what while Jake and I are doing this we're we're we're just gonna focus on helping the vets just try to do a good thing and raise some money for them you put some attention back on them might be good for them and that's all we're trying to accomplish and politics can take a take a back seat for now all right that's all for now and I will talk to you later