Episode 635 Scott Adams: Systems versus Goals, Dual Loyalty Tropes

Date: 2019-08-21 | Duration: 50:40

Topics

Is Joe Biden…the human gaffe machine worsening? Outrage Theatre, the daily media outrage Can a person love both America and the country of their ancestors? My NRA tweet was about the proper people making decisions The NRA is MORE INFORMED on gun topics…than their critics Finding or knowing the “root of a problem”, isn’t required

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hmm mmm pom pom pom pom pom pom pom um hello Henry did everybody else streaming on in here because you know this is the place to be there are other places in the world but if you were to compare all those other places this place is better and you know what you’re gonna need to enjoy the simultaneous if you do you need any one of these things you need a cup or a mug or glasses stein the chalice the tanker the thermos a flask a canteen a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite look what I like coffee you might like something else but join me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine head of the day the thing that makes everything better the simultaneous is simple now there is a new website which I want to look at while I’m talking about it so car

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while I’m talking about it so car peidong Tom who I believe just slide down here has announced a new website for memes called a meme world Emmy Emmy world.com looking at it right now and where it’s essentially a site where car peidong come the meme maker to the president and other people yeah he’s put together a website where you can go and see all the latest memes now isn’t the first thing that you think of when you hear that you say to yourself nobody did that yet and I’m pretty sure nobody did that yet so it turns out that it’s exactly the right you know hole and the the offerings and I think they going into 2020 this could be huge so if you’re looking for a me and where you saw one you want to you don’t know where you saw it you don’t want to look all over Twitter for it you can just go to meet world.com and I believe there’s

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meet world.com and I believe there’s thing for other meme makers to contribute material so there are a number of me makers already on them check that out Lima world a doc you know I don’t think prior to 2016 I don’t think people understood the power of the memes I don’t know that memes change anybody’s mind on the other side I don’t know if they have that kind of power but they definitely galvanized that the team that they’re on so in terms of team building and you know raising the energy and making a fun they really do add a lot so I would say that consolidating support is a pretty valid function of what they do all right sleepy Joe had his latest gaffe now I’ve got a question I keep hearing people use the phrase human gaffe machine did anybody use that before I did

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did anybody use that before I did because it feels like it feels like exactly the sort of term that either I could have heard somewhere and don’t remember it and then when I said it I thought whoa I just came up with something but I hear it hear it being used a lot in the news and by pundits and I don’t know if it’s just sort of an obvious thing or did somebody say it first you know because the most likely explanation is several people said it and and we all think that we invented it that’s it’s often the case so so I know a lot of people used it before but I don’t know who used it first and I don’t know if there’s any a chain of influence most likely most likely it’s just a common enough phrase that a number of different people have used it so I’m not going to claim any credit for that but I see it everywhere so I’ve turned the page on these gaffes if you didn’t see

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page on these gaffes if you didn’t see the latest one it’s worth seeing so this is what baton said yesterday I guess some Buyten said just like in my generation when I get out of school when Bobby Kennedy and dr. King had been assassinated in the 70s the late 70s when I got engaged Biden recalled but unfortunately King and Kennedy were murdered in 1968 so he confused by a decade the murders now it’s not just that he got you got the the date wrong because remember I I know a lot of you looking at the comments and I know a lot of you want to talk about my tweet on guns and I’m going to talk about that in a moment but it’s not gonna go the way you wanted it to so stay tuned for that I’ll make you away from that all right and so here’s here’s my take on the Biden when

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here’s here’s my take on the Biden when we first started calling him the human gas machine and he had all these compilation tapes of his little gaffes I think most of you heard me say I think some of you heard me say that you shouldn’t make too much of the gaffes because you could make a compilation tape of me or anybody else having lots of gaps if you put them all together it would look different than if you saw them in the wild and you say oh you misspoke it wouldn’t mean much to you at all it doesn’t look like that anymore yeah if you look at this last one I’m no expert you know I’m not a doctor but in this context I don’t need to be one because the way the way I’m receiving you know his act in other words independent of what’s actually happening with Biden the way I see it the way I feel it and experience him is a mental decline and here’s my thing if

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a mental decline and here’s my thing if it was just good fun mocking him for the missteps and stuff would just be part of politics part of the fun it’s part of the game yeah it’s a little mean but everybody knows what they’re signing up for it’s not any meaner than what their on the other side you know you can kind of explain it away we had a good time making fun at as gaffes but I gotta tell you I turned the corner on this yesterday after saving this latest one this isn’t funny anymore this is not funny number one he can’t possibly win right he he can’t possibly win just just watching him try to keep up it’s just obvious he can’t win secondly I’ll bet there’s not a single person at the top of the Democrat ticket who in an honest private moment thinks Biden should be the candidate I’ll bet there’s nobody who’s close to the situation and it really understands

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situation and it really understands politics who believe that he should be the candidate and that he could win but nobody and I don’t think people want to say it out loud because it would be unkind I don’t know if somebody on the Democrat side can can just speak the truth to this which is hey no joke anymore we’re kind of concerned about this right it’s not funny because it’s real at this point I think I’ve turned the corner from gosh that sort of humorously looks like he’s losing a step it’s not funny anymore it’s not funny and here’s my suggestion which worked very well for Bill Clinton when he was running against Bob Dole Bob Dole was trying to run a campaign against incumbent Bill Clinton and Al Gore in which Bob Dole was gonna be the the guy who brought back the the respect of the country the the proper way to

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of the country the the proper way to behave the greatest generation ethnos and philosophy and stuff so Bob Dole was going to be the guy who returned you know this sitting presidency into a respectable old-timey you know kind of look and how did Clinton take him out well Clinton probably would have won conditions but what Clinton did with dole was devastating he said he respected essentially I’m paraphrasing Clinton started paying respect to dole and saying that we really respect his you know contribution his service and but he’s he is planning for the past and we’re planning for the future so in other words he treated Bob Dole not like a powerful competitor he treated him like a subject of sympathy

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treated him like a subject of sympathy and respect it might be time to start treating Biden that way because I don’t think he has a chance of winning so we don’t have to think of him in terms of you know the competitor who was a valid competitor and I don’t think it’s patronizing once you’re sure what’s going on now if you weren’t sure what’s going on you could say well it’s a little unkind to make some medical assumptions etc but once you turn the corner as I did and and really until yesterday I was telling myself well Biden’s you know a certain age but I don’t quite see he’s definitely losing the step that matters you know maybe just a little bit to age but maybe it doesn’t matter yesterday I turned the corner it looks like it matters it looks like it’s important it looks like there’s a serious situation there and I’ll bet everybody who’s close to him is completely aware of it so my own opinion

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completely aware of it so my own opinion is that I’m going to turn to respect for his service and and some sympathy I think that Biden has been a good you know public servant for a thousand years or whatever it’s been probably loves this country as much as anybody ever did worked hard probably did what he thought was best you don’t hear a lot of charges of corruption or anything like that so yeah he did not serve in the military as far as I know but in terms of respect he did sort of his service country in the in the political sense not the military sense so that’s my lesson right you takin Biden is um I feel just sympathy for him and I think we somehow somehow the Democrats I hope they find a way to do the right thing you know what they have to do at this point they just need to do the right thing and they need to find a way to do it without being unkind and it’s

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it without being unkind and it’s probably going to be a tough needle to thread all right I’d like to do a new segment that I’m introducing this new segment I call I’m so outraged and each day we’ll take a headline and I’ll bring in Dale to be outraged about it Dale Dale did you hear that the president recently said and I quote I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty what do you think about that Dale totally Dale are you are you personally outraged or are you outraged on behalf of other people behalf of other people it doesn’t bother me personally because I’m not the kind of person with it yeah I don’t have a thin skin for other people see so each

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a thin skin for other people see so each day will do one outrage because the news has turned into people being outraged but it’s kind of outrage theater wouldn’t you say does any of the outrage look real you when was the last time you saw an outrage because everybody’s outrage both sides you know we’re we’re outraged that the other side is doing this the other side is outraged that we’re doing this and all of the outrage is fake isn’t it now I’m not saying that there are genuine issues at the bottom of these things yeah the question live the dual apparently the the accusation of dual loyalty when when made of an American citizen who’s got Jewish heritage is that the right term Jewish heritage I could accidentally be offending somebody and not even knowing it but let’s let’s use that word for now

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it but let’s let’s use that word for now so apparently that’s a known anti-jewish trope trope meaning things that people say a lot I don’t know did all of you know that we’re all of you aware that that’s a known bad thing to say I think I would have sort of figured it out in context but I can’t say it was on the top of my mind but again it wasn’t it’s never been aimed at me so why would it be so here’s the thing so now the president says something that can be interpreted in more than one way so his supporters say well you know that’s not what it means it means being loyal to people you you know you have an association NORAD not a identity with etc.the the whole dual loyalty thing simplifies the world a little too much because what would be wrong with a

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because what would be wrong with a person who likes two things well I can’t why can’t you be Jewish like who says you can’t do this why can’t you be Jewish love your country let’s say the United States and also be very supportive of Israel like you can’t do that who says you can’t do that they are after all one of our closest allies probably the country that would step up first you know if if it came to a shooting war in America was involved you know I mean Great Britain and Israel would be fighting with each other to see who was the first Ally to help the United States if the United States ever gotten some kind of a shooting trouble that was worldwide so why can’t why can’t an American citizen say I love my country and I love that another country - they’re pretty awesome we have to turn that into dual loyalty and then be outraged about Ray’s

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so I think it’s been two years since I saw anybody who was actually outraged but we’ve all been outraged on behalf of other people so on behalf of other people I’m outraged all right let’s talk about a tweet that’s why you’re here that should that should keep you here so I tweeted something yesterday that got people Hammond looking for my actual tweet here and it says here’s what I tweeted because I’m a troublemaker I tweeted the following letting the NRA determine gun laws he is as good a system is letting immigrants decide our immigration policy and Facebook deciding who becomes president we do all three how about our government does some effing work for a change alright alright

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effing work for a change alright alright is your hair on fire yet now you could imagine that a great deal of hate and an insults were directed my way how many of the people who directed hates and insults my way understood what they were criticizing probably none probably man every day of my life is me defending myself both personally and on social media against things people simply imagine that I’m thinking that I don’t think I’ve never said so somebody so let’s let’s deal with all the complaints from the people who misinterpreted it and are complaining about the wrong thing because I see some of you in the comments so let me let me tell you what I was saying and I’ll read it again what I’m saying in this tweet is that we should

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saying in this tweet is that we should always have the right system for who makes the decision I’m making a distinction between what the decision will be which I’m not talking about nothing in my tweet suggests I’m telling you which way a decision should go if you thought I was saying which way a decision should go you don’t understand the tweet and what you’re criticizing is your own imagination so this is a tweet about having systems in which you have the right people making decisions in this case I’m saying that our government should make the decisions about gun policy I’m saying that the citizens and the the government so the government is citizens being a team the government and the citizens should decide who gets elected president not Facebook not Twitter not Google I’m saying that the the government and the people should decide what our gun laws are and of

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decide what our gun laws are and of course the Constitution is part of that conversation but we get to change the constitution too if we want if enough people want to change the Constitution if we want to reinterpret it if we want to play around with the margins we have that power I’m now saying you should do it I’m not saying you should do anything in particular I’m saying that who makes the decision should be the government that’s a representative government a republic and the people working with their government trying things for example you know maybe do some trials see what works inform the people have a little feedback loop make some decisions likewise with immigration do you know who is making the who is making the decisions on American immigration the immigrants themselves at the moment because the numbers are overwhelming our system the decision of who gets into the country is largely the people coming into the country because the government does not control who comes into

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control who comes into the country anymore we don’t have that power we’ve we’ve allowed it to evolve it to the point where there are more people coming and there’s so many people here in stay you couldn’t possibly there’s no practical way even if you want to do even if you thought it was immoral and you made you couldn’t do it they’re just too many so here’s the general the general statement the general statement is you want systems not goals so my book had a failed almost everything and still win big is primarily about that about developing the system to get the best result not having a goal with no system here’s a goal here’s a goal nobody dies unnecessarily from gun violence that’s a goal nobody nobody gets shot accidentally or by a crime good goal useless completely useless here’s the system the government gets information

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system the government gets information becomes educated try some things and then the things that work they they make bigger that would be a system the people being informed you know maybe trying some things as a system I prefer a system where the government and the people working together are respecting the Constitution trying to see what we could do maybe all of the efforts should be in mental health I’m not saying you shouldn’t maybe there should be some tweaks like gun stocks and little things that that even the gun the gun advocates wouldn’t care too much about and wouldn’t you know deeply affect the Constitution that way so that’s the system likewise with immigration I think our immigration system should be strong enough that the citizens and the government of the United States can decide to push the lever forward or back let more in laughs you were in who’s who’s deciding the government to the United States working with the people

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United States working with the people right now we don’t have a system we have a goal treat everybody nice just treat everybody well you know and that goal gets you an accidental system where the immigrants themselves are deciding who lives here if you want that that’s the system you got if you don’t want that maybe you want a better system then likewise with our social media as you know if we if the government doesn’t do something fairly aggressively to control the bias that’s either intentional or accidental in the social media then we don’t have the same system of government we used to I would prefer that we fight and claw to keep what we’ve had which is a useful system where people vote and you know the Republic does his job and they make laws and such instead of having social media have that much power now now that you understand I did not say take away your guns a very

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I did not say take away your guns a very pro gun I’m probably as pro-gun as the most pro-gun person here but I’m also pro system and if if the citizens of the United States collectively with their government decided to make some gun laws that I personally Scott do not think are the greatest I still be inclined to go along with it because the system we introduced that input and I would trust the system now what it was last time you read the Second Amendment a lot of people complain to me and said Scott the NRA is not determining gun laws the NRA is simply defending the Constitution and informing the government and you know creating gun safety and all of those things do you really think that’s true now I do understand that the NRA is

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now I do understand that the NRA is about the government but do you believe that any Republican running for a major office could cross the NRA and still get elected does anybody believe that because if you can’t cross the NRA and still get elected as a Republican then the NRA determines what we do with it’s as simple as that because if you can’t get enough Republicans on board to pass a law that it can’t get passed and that would be the NRA is influenced am I wrong in the facts am I wrong on the facts that would be difficult to impossible for a Republican to get elected after going directly at the NRA I think I’m right about that right that effectively makes our system of government being managed by an unelected group now some of you are saying my Constitution gives me my

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saying my Constitution gives me my second Amendment rights and the NRA is helping me defend them so it’s about the Constitution the NRA is just defending the Constitution that’s great you love the Constitution so do I sin why we can bond on our love of the Constitution but have you read the rest of it it’s a big document there’s this one little big thing about guns and it’s right in there in the Constitution and I’m with you Constitution says something about gun rights it’s right there do you know what else is in the Constitution well there’s something about a representative government and presidents and Congress and all that it gives the control of our decision-making to our elected representatives it doesn’t give it to the NRA so if you like the Constitution you can certainly love the fact that the NRA is a a tireless advocate for supporting the Constitution I love that

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supporting the Constitution I love that but if it crosses that line into taking the job that the Constitution gives to the government well then it’s no longer compatible with the Constitution isn’t it’s now a conflict with the bigger part of the Constitution the gun part is important and I think and I would agree with the people who say citizens should stay armed to protect themselves from our own government I’m totally on board with that idea by the way so you don’t have to talk me into that so here’s what the here’s what the institution says to I’ll give you the exact language here if I can find it oh damn it uh how did I write that down without being coherence so second amendment in the exact words matter when you talk about this stuff so the second amendment says and I quote a well-regulated militia militia is capitalized not sure how important that

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capitalized not sure how important that is a well-regulated militia capital letter being necessary to the security of a free State the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed now the first thing I would know is that it’s already infringed it’s super infringed there’s probably no constitutional right more infringed already that the second amendment why because what has arms mean what does the word arms mean it doesn’t just mean a handgun or a rifle it means arms can you get a nuclear weapon well you’d have a lot of problems there but now can you own a tank a flamethrower a hand grenade launcher can you get a bazooka can you have without any restrictions can you have a fully automatic you can buy one might cost you $30,000 and a lot of paperwork and you get on every list in the world but you

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get on every list in the world but you could buy one so I would argue that there has never been a constitutional right more thoroughly thoroughly infringed already than this one if you if you interpret arms to be any kind of weapon hand grenades and you know mines you name it so the first thing is are we in a risk at risk right now of our government you know I don’t know overthrowing the country and becoming a dictatorship because the citizens do not have access to those high-end weapons you know like missile launchers and drones and banks and stuff probably Matt probably not probably doesn’t make any difference I don’t go to bed thinking oh if only they had not infringed my right to have a flamethrower yes I know you like musk makes a toy flamethrower but it’s not a real weapon that would be very useful so

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real weapon that would be very useful so I think most of you have completely not completely let’s say I’d say 98% of your second Amendment rights are already gone there is gone as anything could ever be nothing is more gone than your Second Amendment right you know it’s not completely gone because you can still own firearms and certain limited circumstances but 98% of all the things you might ever want to do in the realm of arming yourself against your own government can’t do right so that’s the first thing 98% of it’s gone and you didn’t even notice all right somebody says nice straw man is this program did do you think that the Second Amendment when it says arms was trying to limit it to just muskets I mean that’s all they they could imagine at the time but did it do you think that the Second Amendment intended to prevent

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the Second Amendment intended to prevent somebody from having their own cannon I don’t know the answer to that by the way does anybody you can tell the answer yeah when the original Constitution was formed were you allowed to have a cannon if just a private cannon probably yes right I’m just guessing so you know I could get fact-checked on that pretty easily I don’t know so people I see all the guns rights people already bristly but so far I haven’t said anything you disagree with I’ve said that 98% of your rights are already gone and you haven’t noticed now that’s I haven’t I haven’t made a point yet I’ve just said something you agree with that you can’t buy a flamethrower that’s it so so far you agree with me right secondly as I read this sentence I say to myself huh it seems like the key sentences here are militia or key parts

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sentences here are militia or key parts of militia and necessary to the security of a free State now when I read that I say to myself of the obvious intention of that was that the United States had to protect itself from let’s say Great Britain trying to take over to protect itself from an external force so my reading of the Constitution is that it does not give you gun rights for the purpose of protecting against your own government but I can see how it got interpreted that way so I can see how a Supreme Court would say yeah they probably didn’t see this coming you know it probably would it was made it was really about protecting against external forces but we’re gonna interpret this to mean that maybe you need to protect against your own government or just that you have the right so here’s my tank my

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you have the right so here’s my tank my reading of it is that the Constitution did not give you the right to have guns to protect against your own government it did give you the right to own guns to protect against external forces and that’s somewhat useless at this point because external forces are not really a big major threat for taking over this country our military is too strong now if if for some reason our military rolled over and people did try to take over the country it’d be hard to hold the country because we’re pretty well armed so whether or not this right was let’s say let’s say that the militia part of the the Second Amendment has been interpreted into our current understanding of gun rights which in my opinion says that it’s not in the Constitution the government essentially created this right by defining it in

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created this right by defining it in modern terms so it looks to be like a created right or a manufactured rights which I appreciate so in my opinion again we’re all cam ature lawyers and none of you know even the experts disagree about what the Constitution said or meant or how it should be interpreted so remember even the smartest people in the world are on different sides of what I’m talking about so if you’re saying Scott you’re an idiot just remember that I am an idiot but I’m also on the same team with a bunch of smart people who think that they agree with me whichever side I’m on I’m gonna be on the side with more people so my take is that the government can do whatever it wants with guns as long as it makes sense as long as the people are with it if 99% of the people in the united states said hey government please take our guns away would I complain that the Constitution had a

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complain that the Constitution had a vague statement about militia and that no I would not in the hypothetical situation where 98% of the public said please take our guns government take him away we don’t want these in the house they’re just bad you know we’ll trust our government not to do whatever now I don’t think there would ever be a time when 99% of the public said please take our guns away but if they did would you worry would you be concerned that there was a vague statement in the Constitution in hundreds of years ago that really didn’t what didn’t even create our current situation without being interpreted fairly broadly nobody would care the fact is we have a government because in any situation whether it’s in the Constitution or not we can change the Constitution we can we can make laws you know restricting things we can reinterpret the Constitution it’s our government we can do what we want as long as there’s a

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do what we want as long as there’s a system that we all respect so when people say is that the Constitution true yes it’s true enough it’s true enough but does it matter what you should be deciding in every case is what what should we do for the future if you’re making a decision based on the fact that somebody wrote on the document 200 years ago that’s no way to make a decision does it matter to you there’s something wrote something on a document 200 years ago no it should only matter to you then it still works it still makes sense to you in modern times now like you said I’m pro-gun I don’t think citizens should be disarmed I think it does create a threat of a totalitarian government maybe the right way some day and I also think that people are different risk profiles so

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people are different risk profiles so it’s unambiguously true that guns make some people less safe lots of people less safe while it is unambiguously true that some people are more safe I would be an example so a person like me public figure I’m more safe owning a gun you know because I would be smart enough to take gun training I would be smart enough to have a gun lock I would be smart enough to keep it somewhere safe I would be smart enough to be trained I’d be smart enough not to use it unless it was the right situation I don’t have any mental health well I don’t have any mental health problems that we’ve been relevant to gun ownership I don’t think anomie actually have names in terms of mental health problems so pro-gun but I’m also a pro system I think the United States and the people should decide so I say to all of my critics many of you are still on here who said to me Scott we gotta keep our guns and blah blah the NRA

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guns and blah blah the NRA protection to all of you who thought you were disagreeing with me and we’re wrong I say your opinion I care about you are a voter you’re a citizen in this country if you disagree with me on guns I care about your opinion I might disagree but I want to hear it I absolutely care and respect your opinion I don’t respect or care about a private organizations opinion because I didn’t elect the NRA all right they don’t work for me but you and I are on the same team if you disagree with me I care and I’m gonna listen to you and I’m gonna hear your argument all right so here’s one the topic of extending background searches came up and I say to myself would this be unconstitutional

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would this be unconstitutional well we already have background checks so it doesn’t seem to me that we would have a constitutional problem with extending them so they’re more complete now apparently background checks at least extending them or making them more comprehensive has been taken off the table I know this because I read a story on CNN they said that after president talked to the NRA there are some rumors that that conversation was sort of you know putting the cap on it and that that that changed the president’s mind now we don’t know that that’s true you know I I don’t buy the there sort of is it a trope I don’t buy the idea that the president just listens to the last person he talked to you know he’s not doing any independent of thinking he’s just listening to the NRA and making policies the world is never that simple right that’s just the cartoon version of what’s happening but nonetheless I do

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what’s happening but nonetheless I do imagine that the NRA had you know a complete opinion there might be more complete than the people on the other side so one of the things that the NRA does well is advocacy and one of the things they do well is they’re more informed about the topic than the people they’re talking to so would you agree that the NRA in general is far more informed on every one of these topics subtopics of guns than the people they talk to then the politicians and the people mostly and that’s good that’s a resource that’s valuable you know we want we want more of that and we you know and we love any good work that the NRI does teaching people to be responsible gun owners etc but here’s the thing where I’m heading for I looked for CNN to learn more about what this topic is about why do we need to extend background checks where are they not extended to already

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where are they not extended to already and what is the problem with extending background checks and or is there some situation that it works and some that it doesn’t find me on any so Reid any story about gun control this week on any major publication see if you can find any any writer who’s writing about the story who tells you the pros and cons of the biggest issue on the table there should be other issues I suppose but seemingly the big one is background checks find somebody who will even tell you the pros and cons of background checks how many of you watching this you’re citizens you think you’re part of the process you think your votes count and all that tell me how many of you think you understand the pros and cons of increasing background checks I sure don’t because I can’t find any reporting on now I’m pretty sure I could go research it on my

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pretty sure I could go research it on my own but is it that the job of the news if it’s the headline news that we’re talking about background checks in that the president might have changed his mind changed his mind about what can you even give me some hint what the topic is all right how about a topic so here’s my take on that I’m pro-gun for all the all the right reasons I think the NRA and I would be you know completely compatible about what are the the good side of having guns but I’m not seeing anything that looks like a debate do you think they you the public had any influence on the question of background checks because it looks to me like the NRA who is not an elected organization talk to the president and then the president may have been influenced we

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president may have been influenced we don’t know it’s probably more complicated than just one conversation but why are we the people completely in the dark on this what’s going on is there something going on we don’t understand well I know one thing I don’t understand it any topic on gun control I don’t understand any of them now some of them are simple like you know confiscation regarding buybacks those are easy to understand but why is this background check so completely non explained what’s the whole have we ever tested it could we test it small if it has already been tested small how did it do where’s any of that reporting there’s no reporting so that we the people can influence our government to create laws that were happy with where’s that process didn’t happen got short short cut it by the NRA now is the NRA right

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cut it by the NRA now is the NRA right or are they wrong on the topic of background checks if you said yes or you said no you’re missing the points because the NRA is not our elected government well I love that they have information that they can inform they can advise that’s great you could do more of it not less not be happy but we’re still missing the government Park the part where the the government tells us well we’ve got this this on the table let’s tell you what we’re talking about let’s have a vote let’s do some polls see how the public is thinking let’s create a small trial we’ll try it in one state that volunteered to try it where’s all that it’s missing all we have is an unelected organization great organization do good work I don’t have a particular thing I disagree with it because I don’t

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thing I disagree with it because I don’t understand the issues that much but they’re not the government and we’ve allowed them to take that position all right so I think I have beaten a horse to death and then I can’t beat you all right so if you look at the comments on Twitter to my tweet you’ll see that pretty much a hundred percent of the people who want me dead now just didn’t understand the point they imagined because everybody runs into the two sides imaginary frame they imagine that if I said anything about limiting the nras let’s saying government implements that therefore I’m anti-gun could it be the opposite yeah how about on pro system I want a system that is representative of the people and responsive to the people and the NRA is not that system

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people and the NRA is not that system it’s good in many ways as many good qualities it’s just not the system of government that’s any of us want alright that’s all I got to say about that I I see that I see that my critics got a lot quieter once once I explained the situation you know the probably the strongest concept I’ve ever introduced to the world you know I’m imagining that some day after I’m long gone there will be two things I’m remembered for and neither of them will be Dilbert one will be the idea of systems being more important than goals which people sort of understood in different ways forever but there’s something about capturing a thought in in a let’s say a good linguistic package that makes it more powerful so just all the people who have learned to think more in terms of

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learned to think more in terms of systems and less in terms of goals I hear from them literally every day every day somebody emails me and says my life is complete changed because of understanding systems over goals now I have systems to you know exercises and everything else and then the other concept is the there we go we’ll get we’ll get rid of this person it just doesn’t doesn’t want to deal with some honesty here and the other thing is that the talent stack the idea that if you stack the right group of talents you can become special even if none of those individual talents are the best in the world those two things I think are going to be the most lasting thing that I’ve added to the world according to other people that’s that’s what I hear every day so I like that concept applied to everything whether it’s government or anything else so

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it’s government or anything else so those of you who think you’re on the other side for me on gun control you’re probably not I just like good systems not bad systems so he says you need to do a little research into the NRA what do you think I’m gonna find that I don’t know I’m not saying I shouldn’t just give you a hint what do you think I would learn about the NRA that I don’t already know you can fit that in a comment so let me know oh here we go here’s somebody who’s saying a comment I want to come in and somebody says you’ll never solve the problem without getting to the root of the problem so one of the complaints I heard was hey Scott you can’t solve the gun problem until you get to the root of the problem well I’ve got a book for you it’s called loser think and one of the chapters deals with that way of bad thinking and the bad thinking that I’m talking about is imagining that you need to find the root of the problem to solve

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to find the root of the problem to solve it that is actually irrational thinking there are quite a bit there are lots of situations where where the solution is not related to the root of the problem and if you limit yourself to well I got to get to the root problem or I can’t do anything then you’re missing all of the other solutions they have nothing to do with the root of the problem but they still work for example what is the root of the problem of let’s say crime well the root of the problem might be bad education system it might be the economy is bad maybe there’s mental illness maybe there’s drug addiction so you could argue all day about what the root of the problem is for a crime but you’re still gonna lock your door at home now locking your door at home doesn’t solve the root problem but it’s still a good idea all right so and so it is true for most things

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so and so it is true for most things that your solution might be locking the door and that has nothing to do with the root of the problem you also want to find it rude and deal with that as well but still lock the door all right if you’re if you tell yourself you can’t act until we all agree on the root of the problem that’s what loser think that is a style of thinking that is unproductive says booth cat by the way I teach all my cats to relax when they pick them up like this you have to boo is actually a very jumpy cat so you can see she’s being a little bit hypnotized now this is this gentle rocking I also learned that she can’t take too long though I’ve also learned with booth that if I put my hand on her upper chest she gets all she gets

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on her upper chest she gets all she gets all relaxed I don’t know why all right I’m just looking at your I don’t know what half of your comments mean okay that’s all I got to say for now and then we’ll talk to you all later bye for now