Episode 632 Scott Adams: HOAX #5
Date: 2019-08-18 | Duration: 39:58
Topics
NYT says it will frame future news as Trump racism Trusted by the left, the NYT is going to promote racism? Things you need to believe, in order to be a Democrat Who won the costumed sporting event in Portland yesterday? Proud Boys vs Antifa NO coverage at all…on CNN or MSNBC People on the left…are NOT hearing key news Bill Maher slams anti-Israel BDS and Democrats for supporting it Bill Maher’s potential conversion to Trump supporter Did President Obama really tell Biden “you don’t have to do this”? Being opposed to Antifa…does NOT mean you support racists Why can’t you be against Antifa and ALSO be against fascists? Reframing in a stupid world Nationalism vs Racism Nationalism by its nature is protective of American citizens Anti-Racists…or AntiRA vs Antifa? If your primary filter for the world is race…you’re a racist
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temples and pom poms hey everybody come on in the air I’ve been awake for hours what’s your Excuse I know why you’re here has something to do with the simultaneous sip that part of the day that gets the rest of your day going that dopamine hit that makes everything better and you don’t need much to join in no you don’t you already know you just need a cup or a mug or glass it’s time to tell us detector to thermos a Falasca canteen a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite like what I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure of the simultaneous enter Oh better than usual I’ve got a coffee warmer now it’s changed my life now my coffee stays warm how about that it’s like wow is there anything we can’t do in 2019 we can keep coffee warm so I tweeted earlier today
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coffee warm so I tweeted earlier today that by my count the the latest hoax is hoax number five now I talked about the hoaxes of course there are so many to choose from but I’m choosing just the the media hoaxes so number one was the rush of collusion hoax number two the fine people hoax number three everything about Cavanaugh hoax number four the Covington kids hoax and number five is the latest chapter which has been announced accidentally accidentally announced by the New York Times so the coming year the news will be wrapped around the new hoax hoax number five and that says that orange man causes racism not the fake news no it’s not the news that causes the racism no it’s President Trump according to the news now here’s the question I asked you people keep ass
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people keep ass we you know why do so many races support President Trump now the quick answer is conservatives always support Republicans because I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t matter who is running on the Democrat side pretty much all the Democrats you know probably 95 percent of them would support whoever just because Democrat how is that not obvious and I wonder is it really not obvious that all the Conservatives ninety five percent are gonna vote Republican no matter who it is and vice versa so has nothing to do with looking at their policies looking at their personality there’s some small number of people who are in the middle but they’re they’re not the ones were calling racist right the ones who are the independence in the middle who could go either way nobody calls them racist so that’s your answer now the question I
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so that’s your answer now the question I ask you is if you are a racist and you were trying to determine if President Trump was on your side what news sources would you watch to believe that the president was on your side well you couldn’t watch Fox News because Fox News says he that President Trump disavows racism they showed the videos they’re very consistent you wouldn’t get that from Breitbart because Breitbart calls out the fine people hoaxes etc you would have to watch MSNBC and CNN in order to have the opinion that your own racist views somehow we’re compatible with the president because that’s not reported on any of the news sources that are you know the natural news source sources from the right leaning part of the country they don’t report that that’s never in their reporting they talked about how other
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reporting they talked about how other people are saying it but they don’t report that there are facts to back it up up so the odd thing about the racist supporting and President Trump is that the only place they could be learning this is from you know the left-leaning media it’s the only way now ABC says that there have been 36 criminal cases that invoked Trump’s name whereas the number of criminal cases that evoked Obama or Bush before him was zero so what do you make of the fact that there are 36 criminal cases invoking Trump’s name where do the people who made those made those crimes where did they get their information where did they get their news probably see it in so when
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their news probably see it in so when we’re we’re dealing in the next year with the hoax number 5 which is the New York Times has announced they’re gonna they’re gonna make the news in this coming year all about racism I saw the first the first take of it this morning they wrote an article the headline says that the reason that the reason we don’t have universal health care is racism I mean they’re really serious about making every story about racism now I didn’t read this story because I don’t feel like I need to because whatever that story says I just don’t think it could possibly be actual news whatever is that it looks like it’s just narrative you know pounded into a to a topical story so some people were suggesting that instead of hoax number 5 I called the latest the the latest hoax the one that says orange man causes racism not the fake news that I should call it racist
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fake news that I should call it racist hoax so it’s a hoax that’s the president’s racist but she never worked for racists right in your message because as soon as people see the word they’re already thinking you know negative things about Trump so just I wouldn’t use that word I would diminish they’re hoaxing two simple chapters hoax wagon hoax to hoax three hoax four or hoax five if somebody wants to question you about why you’re calling a hoax five you’re gonna have to explain the other four so that’s good for you if you have to explain all the hoaxes that led up to this one now people are saying how come I didn’t include the jussie Smollett hoax that was sort of that it was a borderline for me I decided to leave it out because the hoaxer was Jesse Smollett and the people getting hoaxed were the media on both sides for a while more of the media on the left I don’t
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more of the media on the left I don’t think the media on the right ever quite fell for it did they so in the smaller case the victims were the anti-trump media they believed it whereas the other hoax those things are clearly things that they they don’t at least unanimously they don’t believe so it’s the difference between the news creating the hoax and spreading it versus them being victims of the hoax Smollett perpetrated the hoax on the media it wasn’t the other way around all right I’m starting a list of things you would have to believe in order to be a Democrat in 2019 it’s just a starter list I’m going to add to it but here are some things you would have to believe you’d have to believe that Israel can’t spot an anti-semite you’d have to believe the Israel’s not not good at that because they like Trump and they don’t like some Democrats such as Tulane
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don’t like some Democrats such as Tulane so in order to be a Democrat and buy into the whole sort of Democrat hoax based narrative you’d have to believe the Israel’s not good at spotting anti-semites you’d also have to believe that internal trade wars are good whereas external trade wars are always bad right because they’re doing an internal trade war which is boycotting various companies that might donate to the Republicans Tony Trump so they have to think internal trade wars are good and external ones are bad I’m gonna add to that list as we go so I’ve had a number of people talking about this Portland sporting event you heard about the sporting event in Portland so there were two teams one team the proud boys and the other and were others there but mostly it was two teams the proud boys versus an tyfa and they all showed up in the field and they wore their little uniforms and they had
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wore their little uniforms and they had a contest now the way you win the contest is not by how many people you beat up you win the contest by luring the other side into bad behavior that gets caught on camera because if it’s not on video we didn’t really happen right that’s the way we’re built if you if you don’t see the video looping it’s like it didn’t even happen so that’s how you keep score so the group that goaded the other side into doing things on video and the on video is important that looks bad that’s how you score so based on that and based on the video I’ve seen the proud boys won hard it looks like a complete victory for the proud boys now before you before my critics jump on me I’m neither supporting nor condemning the proud boys I’m not making a comment about my opinion of them I’m simply saying that I’m watching the game like
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saying that I’m watching the game like the rest of you the game in Portland and they won the game because the way you score the game is by embarrassing video for your side versus the other side now I did see embarrassing video of antiphon attacking different people somebody says so your forehead you fought our world is so stupid that if you’re if you don’t say you’re for somebody must be from the other team the nuance is gone so proud boys won that event as far as I know there’s no video showing them starting a fight or being bullies but there is plenty of video of empty fire doing all of those things so proud boys wins congratulations to the proud boys now I asked a provocative question on Twitter I still don’t have an answer because I’ve seen no I’ve seen no reporting on it and here’s the question as a percentage are there more
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question as a percentage are there more black members of the proud voice or are there as a percentage more black members of an tyfa do you know the answer to that because I don’t I have no idea I am pretty sure they both have black members which is hard to explain because in order to be a Democrat you would have to also believe that the black people are not good at spotting racism do you believe that because to be a Democrat you have to because look how many not there’s not a lot as a percentage but there are plenty of black Republicans there are plenty of not as a percentage but there are plenty of black supporters of President Trump how do you Democrats explain that the only way they could explain it is that they’re either bought off or all of them like every single black Republican is just paid off
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black Republican is just paid off somehow you’d have to believe that or you’d have to believe that black people are not good at spotting racism when it’s right drive them and so obvious you couldn’t possibly miss it and I just don’t know how you buy into that all right the latest fun is that Bill Maher came down on the BDS movement that’s boycott divest and sanction Israel that too late a representative slave is behind and so Bill Maher sort of broke ranks which is not that unusual he broke regs with the Democrats to say that that was a dumb idea and so till Abe has she’s responded by saying that people should boycott Bill more show is this could this be any better could anything be more fun than watching delay but say that people
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watching delay but say that people should boycott bill bill maher show what the hell is wrong with that what is wrong with them now I don’t think anybody should boycott his show in fact I was watching it the other day and it’s very entertaining even you can watch Bill Maher show and disagree with his opinions and his politics and still enjoy the entertainment of it it was pretty funny when I watched it now just last night I guess on recording alright so Bill Maher apparently tweeted at the president and he said okay sure let’s get right down though so he was responding to the president’s tweet and so here’s what Bill Maher says this should blow you away now Bill Maher was like one of the biggest critics of the president right he’s one of the most vocal critics and Bill Maher says in the tweet this is a fresh tweet but one other thing mr. president as long as we’re talking this
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president as long as we’re talking this is Bill Maher he says if you were to do a total of 180 on the environment and become the most dogged fighter we’ve had ever had against climate change pollution and killing what species etc I’d vote for you so Bill Maher is saying that if on that one issue if Trump became a you know just a mini act about protecting the environment that Bill Maher wouldn’t vote for him do you believe that now I’m not sure you could take that as a literal you know I’m the one who always cautions you against taking things literal literally because obviously there are lots of variables in the world but I think I’ve been telling you for a while that it feels to me the Bill Maher is sort of teetering on the edge of becoming a trump supporter I’m not going to predict it’ll happen but I’m not going to be surprised if on
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but I’m not going to be surprised if on Election Day 2020 Bill Maher says you know I hate a lot of things about this president but look at the other person sorry you know you might find that Bill Maher is a lot closer to Trump by Election Day than you ever thought was possible now one of the reasons one of the things that would bind them as Bill Maher has to be noticing that most of the most of the arguments against Trump are literally just made-up ridiculous BS and that he’s being bagged for being politically incorrect imagine Bill Maher whose TV show used to be named politically incorrect it’s his brand what’s Trump’s print politically incorrect they literally have the same brand it’s hard for me to imagine that there’s so much distance between them now remember they’ve had some I guess some personal dust-ups in the past so there’s some of it’s personal you can’t
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there’s some of it’s personal you can’t really score that here’s my other favorite story it’s being reported I don’t know that you could consider this credible whenever you hear a quote from people who were not recorded at the time usually you should say the quote is not necessarily credible it might be accurate but you can’t really believe quotes unless you see him on video here on video and even that it could be a deep fake but if you’re just hearing somebody said somebody said something that’s the lowest level of credibility but that said the story says that Obama told the Biden that he quote didn’t have to run didn’t have to run and I think everybody’s seeing that language and they’re saying well if I were to parse that choice of words and here’s the part we don’t know did Obama use those exact
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we don’t know did Obama use those exact words because that’s sort of being reported like those were his exact words or something so close to it that is effectively exact words do you think that Obama told Biden that he didn’t have to run because if you tell your spouse you know honey you don’t have to go with me to the whatever what is your spouse say your spouse doesn’t say oh you’re so nice you’re giving me the option of going with you or not going with you know if you tell your spouse you know how do you don’t have to go with me you’re kind of telling your spouse to stay home that’s how your spouse will take it even if you’re not thinking yeah that’s how your spouse is gonna take it so this wording which again I’m not sure it was his exact wording Obama has allegedly said that you didn’t you don’t have to run if if Oh Biden told if Obama told Biden that he really didn’t have to run he was
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that he really didn’t have to run he was kind of trying to just to discourage him so that’s interesting um I do believe that Obama has got some deep concerns about his legacy with Biden so that’s probably just about all I had to talk about oh so I’m having a lot of people who you know people live in a binary world so in our binary world you either love the president or hate the president you can’t be in between you’re either Democrat or you’re Republican you’re a socialist through a capitalist you know we like to put things in two categories so when I’ve been talking about empty five people like to jump in and say antiphon hasn’t killed anybody yet now I know you can argue about that because the the Dame
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argue about that because the the Dame the shooter but he didn’t the Dayton shooter was probably just mentally ill I don’t think his association with anti-fog was important but my critics are saying oh so if you’re saying anti foz bad you must be in favor of the other side for you must be in favor of fascists here’s what I say when people tell me that if I’m against anti feh I must be therefore logically in favor of fascists here’s what I say your moral superiority is noted your moral superiority is noted I personally and then I follow up with I personally love to NT foul and neo-nazis and you you being the person who is challenging me in the same group I put you all in the same group you’re all completely condemnable for different reasons but for those people who can rank head injuries over verdure
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rank head injuries over verdure and that’s what people are doing the people were pro pro an tyfa or say hey ant if i hasn’t killed anybody they’ve only caused brain damage several times it’s just brain damage you can’t get worked up about brain damage compared to killing the other side is killing or has killed to which i say i acknowledge your moral superiority if if you if you can rank giving people brain damage on purpose as a higher moral plane than killing somebody good for you you just go ahead and do that personally i put them in the same category personally i don’t slice it that fine but if people want to you should praise them for their moral superiority and then put them in the same group as the neo-nazis all right my tweet that’s
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neo-nazis all right my tweet that’s getting the most retweets this week was I said in my tweet I said can someone remind me which politician is the anti-semite is it the one Israel named a settlement after or the one Israel banned from entering their country how do the Democrats process that because they’re so sure the president Trump sided with the Charlottesville Tiki torches who are anti-semitic how did they deal with the fact that Israel is naming City this name who settled in after him and and his opponent in Congress till Abe isn’t even allowed in their damn country how do they process that like what what mental math nation’s do you have to do to imagine that Israel can’t figure out who anti-semites are pretty sure they could do that I have confidence in them okay the amazing thing about this New York Times story is that it’s not a
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York Times story is that it’s not a story except in one half of the country imagine if you will that the New York Times got caught on secret recording telling their news crew you know the newsroom how to cover the news for the next year before the events actually happened so to tell them to frame things and in a race in a racial frame best story is definitely bigger than Watergate am I wrong it is not the New York Times getting caught on video and audio saying that they’re going to form the news and create a narrative in the coming year they’re not even talking about the past they’re talking about their plan for the coming year do you think that’s bigger than Watergate or smaller because what a game for all of its badness wasn’t that big a deal I mean it was a crime you you know I’m glad that Nixon had to go I’m glad that you know everything that happened
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that you know everything that happened had to happen but if you were to rank somebody breaks into an office of the other team versus a major news organization that we trust has decided to rip the country apart through bogus narrative about racial problems and you catch that on tape that feel that feels at least ten times bigger right or a hundred times bigger it doesn’t even feel the same it doesn’t feel like this even anywhere in the same category now part of it is that I don’t think Watergate for all of its badness and again Nixon was bad he had to go but the actual crime was a he didn’t he lie about something involving a break-in for an office that got some documents that probably didn’t make much difference you know I’m not defending any of it I’m just saying that on the list of big
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just saying that on the list of big problems it’s kind of small Nixon had to go it was big enough that you have to get rid of the president it was kind of small ripping the country apart using the most trusted media source at least trusted by people on the left is maybe Hitler level evil wouldn’t you say what what other organization intentionally called the meeting to whip up racial animosity in a country what was the last time anybody did that well there was George Wallace I suppose but you know hailer now this is one of those cases where the Hitler analogy isn’t too far off you know normally I would mock people for making it but in the narrow in the narrow sense of intentionally forming meeting and agreeing in the meeting that you’re going to drive the country apart
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country apart with racist narrative independent of the actual news that sort of leads you to really bad things now so let me pull back on this a little bit there’s nothing quite like Hitler there’s nothing like the Holocaust so anything you compare to that you know it was just sort of ridiculous on its surface but in terms of a similar strategy of using race to divide people for power I mean the reason that the New York Times doesn’t is for profit and power and it seems at least as evil you know - the murders so at least in the philosophical sense it’s completely condemnable but here’s the here’s the amazing thing how much is the New York Times the story being
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the New York Times the story being reported on the left at all you know did did CNN and MSNBC even cover it they may have mentioned it you know they may have said oh there’s a secret recording here’s a link to it but do you think they framed it the way Fox News the way you know Breitbart etc framed it probably not it’s the biggest story by far name one story that’s bigger than that I mean you know there have been bigger stories you know North Korea was a big story when we were you know it look like we’re on the edge of war but at the moment what’s a bigger story than the New York Times admitting they make up the news there’s nothing bigger than that because that affects everything so
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that’s amazing now I woke up this morning and I wanted to get the score of the big game you know the big game meaning proud boys versus auntie foul the costumed event sporting event that happened in Portland so I opened up CNN Dina how much coverage is CNN had of the mass protests in Portland none none nothing not a single link to a story on their front page none now I don’t know if it was buried in some subsidiary page but it’s not on the entire front page so I went to MSNBC to see how much the Portland protests were covered guess how much none there was major semi violence a little bit violent protests in a major city and it wasn’t
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protests in a major city and it wasn’t even a headline now I went to Fox News and sure enough it wasn’t like their top story but right near the top there was a link to give you an update now think about that all the poor bastards who depend on the news that the left-leaning news they’re not even getting news has poor poor bastards have no idea what’s going on think about it those poor bastards don’t know what’s happening they really don’t because there’s their news sources not telling them and they’re not going to go to Breitbart or to read about it they have no idea it’s what it’s the biggest story in the country nope don’t know anything about that one all right well it’s amazing and head-shaking and you know even I am going to just sort of shake my head and walk away from it because there’s not much you can do about it you know I can tweet about it
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about it you know I can tweet about it and talk about it but I’m only going to be tweeting and talking to that narrow silo of people who follow me who already know about it I can’t get out of my my silo partly because social media platforms are going to throttle me if I try but nobody’s gonna read it anyway so there’s this gigantic black hole of knowledge on one side of the country and there’s no mechanism to fix it because the news won’t give them news and the people telling them that the news isn’t giving them news are invisible to them because the platform’s just sort of keep us apart partly by choice and partly by algorithm I was thinking trying to think of ways to counter the hoax 5.so hoax 5 for those of you just joining us is the idea that the orange behind causes
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idea that the orange behind causes racism not the fake news and the way they cover it and this was the fifth of the major hoaxes it’s like chapter five if this were a chapter book this would be chapter five the the other hooks so here’s a way to I was thinking of reframing the whole racism thing imagine if Trump supporters had a t-shirt to the said nationalism versus racism now smart people will say wait a minute those are not like opposites because a racist could be anybody could be a nationalist could be a non nationalist you know those does it make sense it doesn’t make sense to say nationalism versus racism it’s sort of like saying banana versus the color purple like banana and the color don’t compare doesn’t make any sense but we live in a stupid world in which people think in terms of words it’s the
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people think in terms of words it’s the main power of anti-shah is their name if they change their name they would have to go away tomorrow because if it wasn’t anti-fascist they would just be fascist it’s literally the name of the organization it’s the only reason they get away with what they do because we’re so dumb as a as a society that the word influences us anti oh well I guess I must be on your team you’re anti something I’m in time so I was thinking if it were framed as nationalism versus racism that’s not so bad because you can’t really be a good nationalist if you’re also are racists seems to me because the whole point of nationalism is that you’re protecting your team the people in your nation how could you be a nationalist and a racist you could be a white nationalist but bad news it’s way
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white nationalist but bad news it’s way too late how in the world what are you gonna do you know back forty five percent of the country to wherever you imagine they belong how would that even work so nationalism without the white or versus racism yeah it’s not patriotism versus racism because there are patriots on both sides but I think people would agree that the Nationalists are all on one side and nationalism by its nature is anti racism am I wrong I’m not talking about white nationalism I’ll talk about just nationalism nationalism by its nature is to protect the people in the border the people who are already here and there are all kinds of people so how could you say protect all these different kinds of diverse people and be a racist doesn’t make sense they’re opposites so that’s why
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sense they’re opposites so that’s why the anti-trump errs have to throw the white in there to make it white nationalist so that they can turn it into white supremacists so they can turn it into Heller so that they have to use word association to turn nationalists into something bad so I’m just putting that in there nationalism versus racism if we started thinking of it that way then you’d have to take teams I was actually thinking of this is not a serious suggestion but it just gives you an idea of how important words are if if Trump supporters founded a group called anti-racists but they were there mostly nationalists but they called the group anti-racist who would oppose them because if you oppose the group that’s anti-racist what are you right so if there were a
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are you right so if there were a Republican group named anti-racist it would be very effective I don’t see it happening and not not suggesting it will but it just tells you how the words work anti-rock anti raw anti roth to be against anti far now it seems to me that the anti-shah are racists by definition because their view of the world is erased and filtering if the way you see the world is race that’s your primary filter I think you’re racist by definition because it’s how you see the world if your primary definition of the world is America or nationalism you’re the opposite because you can’t really be a good American you can’t really I don’t know how you could support the Constitution or where it says very clearly we’re all equal if you don’t believe that so in order to be a nationalist and a patriot and a good
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nationalist and a patriot and a good American you would have to be a racist so just just put that out there all right lemon drunk so anti raw versus antiphon then my work auntie Roz is pretty good you should reread the Constitution should I what am I gonna miss I you know I’m seeing a pushback when people I saw some people say that the the United States and the founders founded the United States on a white supremacist basis what do you say to that do you think it’s true or false that the United States the the founders the fathers of the country because most of them were men I do you think that it was a white supremacist nation now most
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was a white supremacist nation now most of you are a calling bull no a no a no hey so I’m reading this book American nations which is just history it’s not it’s not really trying to push an agenda it’s just telling you what happened if you read the history it looks like all not exactly white supremacists it was wealthy supremacists so the founders did believe both north and south there’s some people were special and it had a lot to do more to do with your money and your status than it did with anything else so the thing that we often forget is that the founders of the country and I don’t mean the ones who signed the Constitution but the the early important people in the country in the colonies enslaved white people in black if you’re an indentured servant and you were white you’re basically a slave you know the actual African slaves
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slave you know the actual African slaves had it worse but the white people were slaves too so we were a slave country it’s just that everybody was a slave and the rich people had everything and they built a constitution to said hey how about rich people get to keep everything including their slaves that’s sort of what they did the Constitution was really about the rich people are getting to keep their stuff so you can love this country and be a patriot and all that but you don’t have to run from the history the history is a bunch of white supremacists but the most the most dominant part of their thinking beyond the fact that they were white supremacists the dominant part of their thinking was money and special people but the special people were anybody rich so I would say true to the claim that the United States was founded on a white supremacist philosophy not true
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supremacist philosophy not true that it still is it’s perfectly fine to say things used to be bad but they got better so I’m gonna say it true to the country being a white supremacist platform that improved over time and I would say that the Trump form of nationalism takes it to right where it needs to be nationalism is anti raw right hashtag anti raw because they’re anti-racist for now why don’t you go have a great day a great day cuz I’m gonna have one and I will talk to you tomorrow