Episode 630 Scott Adams Greenland, Omar and Tlaib, Hong Kong, Trump Rhetoric, Don Lemon Drop
Date: 2019-08-16 | Duration: 47:04
Topics
Purchase Greenland…why not? CNN anti-Trumpers react “Big Thinking” concepts and President Trump Stephen Colbert doesn’t know anything about President Trump? Ghislaine Maxwell spotted reading book about CIA operative deaths Why do President Trump’s critics change his words? If his actual words are so bad, why do they alter them? Don Lemon allegation…just two drunk guys in a late-night bar? President Trump accused Tlaib and Omar of racism, smart move? A brain hack to deprogram bigotry via conversation Has Tlaib and Omar’s gender and ethnicity HELPED them achieve?
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per hour Wow Wow okay you didn't need to see that alright here's my favorite tweet of the day from Liz wheeler of Oh am so this is her tweet I've been laughing about it this morning let's see if I could read it without laughing she goes man what an awesome day for Trump first he forces Dems to embrace anti-semites Omar and Talib then he tells a fat protester in his rally to go home and start exercising and obviously and Abigail and if you don't think this is awesome I don't know how to talk to you and what's funny is I immediately know that we we could easily talk because I do think that's kind of Awesome now as I've said before making fun of people's weight is a very bad look especially in this country because I think 60% of adults are
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because I think 60% of adults are overweight or something but somehow when when Trump does it because he's yeah he's got a few pounds of his own so how many he does it doesn't seem the same if if a fat guy calls you fat it's not really the same right oh listen it's just not the same as if somebody's skinny called you fat I'm so ready oh that's pretty funny I've been working on a brainiac to cure bigotry they talked about that a minute let's talk about some of the headlines which are awesome all right what great headlines we have we have to talk about Green Man right so I was watching CNN cover this story their president Trump has floated the idea with his aides and his aides have looked into it I'm actually buying Greenland now I guess there are 58 thousand residents it's some kind of associated with Denmark I don't know exactly their political affiliation they're sort of a protectorate of some sort and apparently
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protectorate of some sort and apparently the ideas float been floated before I think Truman thought about it etc so for geopolitical reasons if you look at a map I had to remind myself you know I obviously I knew generally where a Greenland was but I want to actually refresh my memory by seeing it on the globe don't look on a flat like map look on one that's you know got some three dimensions because if you see where it is you say to yourself oh crap we do need to have control of that little piece of real estate because it's sort of central to what probably will be some kind of a fight for the North Pole of its resources and its shipping lanes and all that and it would be nice to have you know a lot of control up in that area for strategic purposes but here's the funny part so CNN's doing one of these four screens at the same time situations where they've got the the various panelists
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they've got the the various panelists and I'm watching one of the anti-trump errs faces and reactions as the story is being described and this is how they they start the story it's like yeah you know the president's thinking about buying Greenland now what's wrong with buying Greenland nothing it's actually smart strategic if Greenland said yes it would be very doable practical strategic affordable smart how did the CNN pundits react to floating an idea that might not happen but it's clearly strategic smart doable and very affordable probably how did they react let me do my impression that those of you listening on the podcast will not get to appreciate but here's your is one of the the women one of the anti-trump I see this is her face that's
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anti-trump I see this is her face that's it she just makes his grimace face like a like a mocking smile like whoa whoa hey Greenland oh I just shake my head at the stupidity of it all oh I don't have any words that I could use to say why it's a bad idea because it's actually a totally reasonable idea to float they might say no but it's certainly worth asking I don't have anything bad to say about it so I'll just smile like I'm in pain I shake my head mm-hmm meanwhile one of the other pundits who's trying to laugh it off well actually but didn't want to look like a complete idiot describes how strategically sound it is as a at least something to consider it was hilarious watching them so biologically primed to disagree but just didn't have anything this is the
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didn't have anything this is the greatest story ever because they didn't have anything now here's the other great part about it I'm going to assume it's not going to happen but it might it might but I'm going to assume it won't but wasn't it kind of brilliant if if Trump had anything to do with you know the story surfacing or anybody in Trump circle that anything to do with surfacing the story it's really brilliant it's a brilliant story to surface as a story because when you think of the greatest presidents you think of ones that had added territory right you know you think in Jefferson and the Louisiana Purchase and just just the idea that the United States the United States could substantially increases real estate holdings in this hemisphere I mean really substantially at the same time it might be getting warmer hey what if it gets warmer
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warmer hey what if it gets warmer Greenland's looking pretty good if it gets warmer doesn't it so it's a play it's a hedge for global warming it's got some uranium it's got some other natural resources and all that it kind of makes Trump look like a big thinker because that's exactly what it is it's big thinking it is sort of trumps trademark that he thinks bigger than other people he said that expressly by the way I think in the art of the deal he talks about there's no point in having a small idea nobody cares about a small idea so he has big ones how about instead of North Korea you know doesn't nuke us how about we become friends and help them build up their country like that's big thinks big so the green land thing is are just a wonderful story to have out there floating around it's all good even if it doesn't happen it makes you think that's presidents a big thinker which is I
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presidents a big thinker which is I watched oh and here's the question I have about Greenland how does Greenland defend itself 58,000 people giant country sort of a little bit too close to Russia maybe a little too close close to China how do they defend themselves is it the Danes do they wait for Denmark to come come protect them if Russia attacks I don't think so I don't think so yeah I think that they they depend on US forces primarily now if you depend entirely on the United States to defend you are you a sovereign country kind of I mean you get to decide who's and who's the mayor and who picks up the trash but if another country is your national defense yeah I mean that I'm assuming that's true just based on geography I don't know I think about the defense
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don't know I think about the defense situation they're about kind of it assuming it's true if you depend on another country for your defense are you a sovereign country interesting question somebody says in Norway I don't know but there's nobody who's protecting against Russia except the United States I would think in NATO being an extension of the United States of this context all right I saw a Stephen Colbert do an interview with Anderson Cooper and he said a surprising thing he said we don't know anything about Trump he said that there are all these big holes and we don't even know who he is because we don't have his school grades and we don't have his taxes and I thought to myself is there anybody we know more about than Trump and this this guy who's a critic says we don't know anything about Trump name a public figure that we know more about I mean doesn't that just strike
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about I mean doesn't that just strike you as a crazy comment that's not a comment you can it's not just a agree/disagree kind of a comments like oh I have different facts or different opinion or something to say that we don't know anything about Trump meaning that he's more of a mystery than other public figures feels like exactly the opposite of what I'm watching I feel like we know more about this this guy than anybody we've ever seen in public life so it's amazing to two movies on one screen situation in other news guy Lena Maxwell Epstein's I guess a ranger allegedly has been spotted at in-n-out burger reading a book about CIA people who died how perfect is that Jelena's reading a book about CIA agents being killed coincidence - have you ever
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being killed coincidence - have you ever imagined that a foreign intelligence service or even a domestic one might have an interest in somebody like Jeffrey Epstein who in turn had a lot of information about a lot of other foreign leaders feels to me that the CIA would want to be friends with a guy like Epstein just to take advantage of his blackmail operation you might want to use it for themselves and say hey Jeff can you do a sort of do us a solid can you get this foreign leader to just visit your Island that's all we need from you yeah so I wonder if that was a coincidence she was reading that book or was she sent me a message all right I tweeted the following tweet Don junior retweeted it's was getting a lot of attention I said question if Trump's rhetoric is so dangerous you know that's like all the headlines right Trump's rhetoric is
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the headlines right Trump's rhetoric is so dangerous I said if Trump's rhetoric is so dangerous why does the news have to lie about what he says to make you sound bad wouldn't it sound bad all by itself now of course you know that I'm making people think past thus a little bit here and think that's the sale of do they change his words to make them sound bad and the answer is of course yes and it when people are challenging me on it I'm watching in my Twitter feed as people challenge me they and what do you think they say when I say why do you have to change Trump's words to make you sit on that doesn't sound bad all on its own what do his critics say they say Dale Dale could you come over here what do you the president screwed say when I say why do they have to change his words to make you sound bad shouldn't sound bad all by itself of his rhetoric is bad what do they say Dale they say they're bad all by themselves he is worse over back at all by
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he is worse over back at all by themselves I see them with my own eyes and my own ears well bad by themselves see and so that I'm watching people come into my Twitter feed and when people say no his words really are bad I send them either a link to my blog post about why why only the Democrats you're a secret dog whistle where I compare all these alleged stories of trumps badness rhetorical badness anyway and I described how it looks different from both sides but also people are sending links to the fine people hoaxes debunking which is the classic one where they changed his words to make you sound bad so I'm using it as an opportunity to get out the word about the fine people hoax which i think is finally finally thanks to Steve Cortes especially at Joe Pollak for for really putting a stake in
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Pollak for for really putting a stake in that hoax yeah well it will live forever but at least now the record is clear enough that if you google define people hoax you would see the debunking there's another story and the Don Lemon I don't know what you'd call it situation I I don't think it would be an assault what would you call it so the the allegation is that there was some I think bartender off duty in some other bar and he approached Don Lemon in the bar there was very late and people were drinking and Don Lemon came up to him later and I'm not going to describe what what is alleged that Don Lemon said or did you could read about it if you want but I'm gonna defend Don Lemon here you
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but I'm gonna defend Don Lemon here you ready so where the the news part of the story is that there was a witness so there was actually somebody with the bartender who saw exactly what the bartender described so it sounds between the two of them sounds like an accurate description of what what actually happened now the friend went away thinking that nothing happened think about that the friend went away thinking that although you described the exactly the same events it didn't seem to have any importance to it and it didn't didn't look like a you know some kind of a sexual assault or anything but apparently the bartender who was the subject of it is saying that it had a bigger effect on him and even even the other witness says yes then he does what he did notice there did seem to have a bigger effect on the bartender that's subjective but here's the thing if you read about what actually happened it's not like the guy grabbed didn't grabbed
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not like the guy grabbed didn't grabbed him by the crotch or anything so it wasn't a direct assault on somebody's you know private parts it was something kind of weird and gross and forward but given that it was a man dealing with a man and they were familiar with each other in the sense you know wasn't complete strangers I mean they had at least had a small acquaintance so they knew who the other was essentially here was my take on it I just don't know that this rises to the level of anything but two drunk guys talking that's my take on it now had one of the had one of the participants been a woman I would feel differently because I don't think you can say that something that happens to a woman has the same impact of something that happens to a man the fact that Don Lemon is gay I don't think that changes the fact that the subject of the
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the fact that the subject of the encounter was a male all right if a gay guy comes on to me whether I like it or don't like it I probably would just be complimented but I'm not gonna have I'm just not gonna have like a world changing experience out of that I might get a story out of it but I don't think it's gonna change my life in any way yeah now those who say that gender doesn't matter and I don't think anybody says that there's nobody serious who says gender doesn't matter in these situations because it does matter matters a lot so maybe what lemon did was you know creepy and weird but that's what drunk people do if you go to a bar and this wasn't even a regular bar this was a late night bar where people go go to this bar after the other bars closed I mean it's like it it's the super drunk bar if you go to these super drunk a bar
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bar if you go to these super drunk a bar where people are gonna be super drunk because it's that late at night you know there's gonna be guys doing drunk stuff in the bar now if you're a woman that's illegal and you've got a case and leave the woman alone but if it's a guy mostly talking to a guy saying something it's not that palatable not the worst thing so I hate to disappoint you by siding with Don Lemon on this but I gotta say that I just don't see any jury having a problem with this as a crime and don't see it as a crime doesn't rise to that even if everything that said about it is true it just doesn't rise to the level of crime in my opinion but read about it yourself form your own opinion all right one of the things Oh so president Trump did two things yesterday that I thought
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did two things yesterday that I thought were so clever and I don't think he gets enough credit for you know greevil the green land thing is one I talked about but he's going after Omar in two Labe about this visit to Israel or the West Bank and I'm a little confused I think at first at first they were going to go and then the president talked to somebody in Israel and then Israel changed their mind and said no you're these two are backing the boycott against Israel's so you can't come and then I think maybe there's some kind of exclusion for delayed because of a relative missing or relative so I don't know it's it's in flux right now but here's what's great about it every time Trump talks about this he forces the media to talk about it you know they don't have a choice it's just the characters involved are just too interesting too important it's the president it's you know half of the squad can't not talk about it and every
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squad can't not talk about it and every time they talk about this it's good for the president and you know they hate that because the worst thing they can say about this is that he's being political as opposed to you know being presidential and when his supporters look at it what do you think they say yeah he's just being political instead of being presidential the worst thing you can say about it is his own supporters would say well yeah that's true yeah this is political that's all it is it's just political do we hate it no we don't hate it because it's kind of funny first of all you can't I don't think you can separate from the fact that it's kind of Fabi kind of love it yeah somebody says I love it I would you know it's kind of funny it's very much like when he cancelled the the airplane ride for for Pelosi and her crew it's just kind of funny it's just something he can do so he does do it it's not the
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he can do so he does do it it's not the end of the world nobody dies because of it nobody loses money because of it it's just sort of a sort of a dick move but it's really effective I can't hate something and honestly I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure I would say this if somebody I didn't like was doing it to somebody I liked I think I would still appreciate how clever this is it's very clever from the president put the spotlight on them and the here's the super clever part he does this by explicitly accusing them of racism and anti-semitism and he says quote they hate Israel and all Jewish people now is that in evidence there's there any evidence that we could look to and say oh yeah there's there's the proof they hate Israel and all Jewish people no no there's not I mean you that might be your opinion but I would bet that if you talked to
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but I would bet that if you talked to them and said all right you know here's your truth serum serum do you hate every Jewish person I wouldn't say yes of course that you know even no matter what bad feelings they have about Israel in general I don't think in their you know in their souls you could find them you could find them to say that they hate all Jewish people I just don't think so now are they doing things which all Jewish people might find distasteful I say oh there's there's no such thing as everybody agreeing on anything but are they doing things which most Jewish people would observe and say oh I don't like that yeah they're doing that so the president is extending the the criticism in exactly the way it's happening to him so the most effective thing that the anti jumpers are doing are accusing him of racism because there is no defense against the accusation it's the one
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against the accusation it's the one thing you can defend because if you're saying if you're going into public and saying I'm not a racist you're losing let's say you say I'm not a racist and here's my good evidence you're still losing if that's what you're talking about you're losing and so Trump has finally found a way to get out of that box because you can't get out of the box if so many people are accusing you of being in that that little racist box there's just nothing you can do so instead he found a very practical way to go on offense so remember the president was accused of backing those tiki torch people in phil's the neo-nazis who were saying anti-semitic chance they're actually chanting you know anti-semitic things specifically and that was like their primary messages seemed and now the president's going after Omar and slave for being like those protesters so he's
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for being like those protesters so he's basically lumping Omar and too late he's lumping them with the Charlottesville neo-nazis he's putting them in the same category at least on this the the one question about Israel and that makes them have to defend it they are forced to defend the accusation and they can't they can't because nobody can defend an accusation of racism it's the only an indefensible thing maybe the accusations of sexism are right behind it but you can't really defend against it every time you talk about it you go deeper in the hole so he decided this since he couldn't get out of his hole he would dig a little hole for them and now they're in the hole and this is never gonna go away Omar and today it will always be the
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Omar and today it will always be the anti-semitic Congress people now whether it's true in the sense that that's what they're thinking in their mind whether or not they separate Israeli politics from Israeli people doesn't matter if they're defending against this charge they're losing and it's branding the Democrats as hypocrites and racists so that's pretty effective so let's talk about hacking your brain you save something fun for the end so I've been having this problem of trying to get out of the house meaning that the simple process of getting in my car and driving somewhere is so difficult now that I end up being in a rage of anger before I've even started the car here's why here's the list of eleven things I have to remember to bring with me to go
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have to remember to bring with me to go to the gym all right this is this is how our world has become complicated if I want to go to the gym here are the things I have to remember every time I could remember to put on some sunscreen yeah at least for my he had a neck I got to remember my hat my earbuds my wallet my phone my car keys I like to bring a protein bar and my own water they don't have good water at the gym sunglasses that are sometimes in in the house and a charger from my battery no I know what you're gonna say you say well leave some number of those things in the car now I do have an extra hat etc but the number of times I could actually get out the door without having to go back in and guess something it has it has reduced to zero zero times I think walk out the door get in the car and drive away and be happy about it a hundred percent of
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be happy about it a hundred percent of the times I get in the car and I go oh forgot my ex and I got to go back and get him now you're right I'm trying to improve my system so that the number of things I have to remember will shrink yeah I see people suggesting keep them in the gym bag now that would require doubling things so I would need to double my prescription sunglasses that's expensive I would double my earbuds that's expensive I don't really have two wallets but I suppose I could you know have extra credit card and some cash yeah so I could do that and I will but the first step was making the list so if I could at least look at the list and do my inventory before I leave the house at least it would be one trip so I used this yesterday for the first time and let me tell you why I had to go to this this is a simulation story so the other day I tried to put together all my things to go to the gym I thought I had
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things to go to the gym I thought I had them all and I was carrying them in like a little pile like in my hand in some of them were gonna go with my gym bag and stuff before I actually pulled out of the garage but I put the belt I put them on the console of my car in the middle console and I said to myself and I swear to god there's no way you can verify this but I swear to God I said this in my mind I said to myself this was so complicated but now I've got this I have everything I need I'm gonna go to the gym there's only one thing that could derail my plan of pulling it in my garage and going to the gym and I thought to myself the only thing that could go wrong is if my car key slipped off the little pile on the middle console and by coincidence went directly into the crack between the seat and the console where I would not be able to find it and I thought to myself that's the only thing that could go wrong and as I thought that I looked out of the
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as I thought that I looked out of the corner of my eyes and watch my keys start to move it moved across the top of my wallet and it douve into that crack between the seat and the console and I looked down and it was unreachable it was unreachable so I abandoned my trip to the gym I had flashlights and sticks and I spent the next hour of my life trying to get that key out of the only place in the world it could have fallen where I could not easily get it out I did eventually get it out but by then time had gone by and I had no time to go to the gym it was the next day that I created the checklist now I've added to my system do not put things on the center console of car so my new rule is I'm not going to set anything up there period I'm just not going to put anything on that console doesn't matter what it takes I'll put it on the seat
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what it takes I'll put it on the seat I'll put it anywhere else I'll not put it on that instead of console so the story is about systems versus goals my goal was to go to the gym my system of gay
gay there wasn't working so what I'm doing is I'm AP testing myself toward a system that could work that has the advantage of decreasing the amount of things I think about now take that take that simple process of going to the gym and the complexity that they grew up around it now multiplied by that that by everything you do all day everything you do all day is super complicated needle just super complicated and it's just fill as your day until you're exhausted is annoyed and you have mental illness literally and so um that's that's a question on system now if you're having trouble getting to the gym to the gym by the way this is what my book had it failed
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this is what my book had it failed almost everything and still wouldn't big is about it's about developing a system to help you do those things we're just having a goal wasn't getting you there you're developing a daily thing you do so you get to get your objective so we'll talk about that another time how to develop systems to get to the gym but I wanted to run something by you wanted to run by you a system for deprogramming people from racism that's weird oh here it is do you think I could do that do you think I could create a system or a brain hack to deprogram bigotry I think that's possible I think it is now you'd have to a/b test it but I'll tell you how I would start let's say you put me in a room I'm a trained hypnotist for this if you don't know and I've studied persuasion for decades I've written about it for anybody who's new here could I
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anybody who's new here could I rewire a racist brain to be less racist do you think that could be done with a conversation the answer is maybe it's definitely in the realm of doable things because we do we do observe that in fact it was just a story today than theirs about somebody who was a neo-nazi for decades have just decided to yeah that it was all just bunk and decided to renounce racism after decades of being a leader in some kind of a neo-nazi group and we know people change we know people start out as racist and become less though so could I talk somebody out of it in a short interview shall we say I think yes and here's how I would approach it now this could require a lot of repetition so don't don't assume that just hearing this once makes a difference but it would go like this I
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difference but it would go like this I would start by telling people you know you do understand the bigotry of all kinds whether it's ethnic or age or gender you realize that that those are built into us so I'd say to my bigot I would say you understand that you and I and everybody else is the same in this one regard that racism is our default circuitry and that makes sense it makes sense that we're all bigots because in the old days back in our early human past we didn't have information about other groups and if you saw a tribe coming toward your tribe and they didn't look just like your people in whatever way you had a threat so any group of humans that didn't look like your group of humans was dangerous throughout most of human history so you should not be embarrassed by the fact that your natural default circuitry is bigoted because you were you evolved under you
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because you were you evolved under you know in a world in which that was a useful reflex but things have changed today we don't need to make decisions based on you know gross big visual things like ethnicity or looks or color or anything like that because we have social media we have the internet we can find out about a specific person to the point of being safe or not safe quite easily so the utility of being a bigot the usefulness of it was really useful you know a million years ago or hundred thousand years ago let's say a hundred thousand years ago it was really useful today is more unuseful than useful because we can find out about individuals in a way we couldn't before so first you get people to you pace them the worst thing you could do if you tried to talk somebody out of bigotry is to say you're a bigot and I'm not if you start with that you're done that no
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start with that you're done that no progress could be made but if you say there's one thing we all have in common we all have default bigoted circuitry now you don't believe that ask anybody you know if they have mating preferences by ethnicity and gender ask people if they have a preferred gender they would like to mate with and do they have a preferred ethnicity that they like or don't like I've never met anybody no matter how good they were you know as humans no matter how unprejudiced they were I've never met anybody in private who didn't have a strong preference about who they wanted to mate with now it's not all bigotry in the way that you imagined for example I have two people I knew quite well two women who were white women who would only date black guys period that was their preference and they weren't gonna change that for anything didn't matter how awesome you were if you were not a black guy they
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were if you were not a black guy they were not interested in any kind of a relationship with you and I'm talking about marriage kind of relationships not just messing around so it is true that everybody I've ever talked to personally has some kind of a preference for I prefer this these types over this type isn't that bigotry of course this of course it is there's no such thing as non bigoted people by default it's how we're all wired we are patterned recognition machines but we're not good at it now one of the things I would do is I don't have good examples for you I would I would give a person some examples of where we saw a pattern but it was false if I had time maybe I describes that the Bible code if I tie and maybe I talk about how everybody was sure there was Russian collusion but it didn't happen so I'd give a bunch of examples where the person said oh yeah we did think there was a pattern there but then when we looked into it we were fooled there was no pattern so first you want to get so here the staffs talk I'll
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want to get so here the staffs talk I'll keep reminding you first you pace which is you agree with them say yeah everybody's bigoted by Nature you I agree with you on that secondly then you take them through the the fact that that we now have a way to use our higher level of reasoning to get past it to think above it and we have a way to overcome our default you also point out that everybody's got a mating preference because then your Bagan will say oh yeah yeah you it's a good point I guess everybody's a little bit bigoted it just like being so pacing is an important part of influence and once you got there then then you say what is it about your group whatever whatever groups this this big yet belongs to you say what is it about your group that's so awesome you can probably get that person to say well let's say it's a do not see that person is likely to say something like we'll look at all the things that white
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we'll look at all the things that white people invented that's a common thing right it's like white people invented this and invented that right that therefore the neo-nazi would say white people must be pretty awesome and then here's what I say as I'm reprogramming the bigoted end of their bigoted view I say but you're not Thomas Edison why do you get credit for what Thomas Edison did what is the logic that connects you to somebody you're not related to that isn't you how are their accomplishments in any way related to you these are just different people now you could say that some groups have greater variety there you know some groups have more people adding the edges you know that more geniuses or more criminals whatever you could say there are some groups have more more tail participants you know less people in the middle that might be true how
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in the middle that might be true how does that help you those are just different people those are not you you didn't invent anything how can you be proud of strangers accomplishments explain that to me at this point because you've pasted the person and you've agreed that you're all starting with some you know bigoted circuitry there they're sort of with you up to that point and they're not going to disagree with the statement that they are not Thomas Edison and that's just a different person and if you're taking credit for that different person well that's not working now then here's the last thing in my experience the biggest will often if you if you take them through any kind of an argument they'll often default to I'm just not comfortable around X kind of people it's you can walk them through the logic until they just give up on all of that
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until they just give up on all of that and then they go ok and it doesn't really apply to me personally just the fact that there are other people who are smart you don't get credit for that you don't get credit for other people being smart that's it most people will default to well but I you know I like my people and I just I just want my people to be around me and spend more time with my people to which I say have you ever gotten used to something you didn't think you'd like because a lot of what we think are our preferences are actually quite fluid imagine all the times you thought you wouldn't like something and then you just were exposed to it for a longer time then you just liked it think about the people in your life that you call your friends how many of them are basically turds that you just sort of got used to all right when we spend enough time around other people we kind of get used to them it doesn't matter who they're you you could you
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matter who they're you you could you know throw you into a remote tribe somewhere and you say oh my god I'm not not at all like this remote tribe but we come back in a year and you're gonna be best friends because you get used to people that's how we're designed we get used to stuff so that's that's the the brain hack that I would start I would seed those ideas but it's the sort of thing that needs reinforcement now I think there was a time when you could not convince people to be less racist and that time was before you had so many good role models of people from every ethnicity every group every every you know sexual orientation were were succeeding wonderfully if you had no examples of people succeeding wonderfully then you might say well there's some reason for this because you know maybe this group can't have any successful people but then you say well who was our president
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then you say well who was our president for eight years recently who's the best athletes you know or the best artists you know right you know I don't have to go through the list black people are just killing it in every you know all over the place if you look at who is the president focusing on for his you know his his criticisms always focusing on Omar and too late to which I say ruk me that's the best news this country has ever had I hate to be the optimist all the time but just think about this the news is that the president United States is trading criticisms with two women people of color I believe you would use that term for both of them and it's a fair fight that's the news if we were not just so fatalistic you know looking at the negative all the time you'd be looking at the best news
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time you'd be looking at the best news this country has ever experienced the best news this effort this country has ever had is a high-level fight that's a fair fight fair fight is the key here it's a fair fight between the President of the United States and two women who are so successful that there are the headline news and that what they want and what they care about is what we're talking about think about that they think about you yeah well so whether it's a gender issue or a personal color issue it works the same that these two women have reached the highest level of effectiveness you know you could disagree with what what they're saying of course but look at the effectiveness what stopped them nothing what got in a way of them reaching the level that they've they've reached what what was their obstacle nothing in fact you could argue that
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nothing in fact you could argue that maybe their gender and maybe the earth Misty's gave them a boost can you think of better news than that I mean we like to focus on the drama we like to focus on blah blah blah the you know they're fighting and blah blah blah so is it racist and you know which one's the racist is it the President or is it or is it Omar who's the racist so we're sort of arguing on that layer you know we're in the weeds but just just take a minute take a breath get out of the weeds just just give yourself some distance from the content of the specific you know the Israel and stuff a little bit uh you just rise up a little bit the headline story in this country is the president the United States in a fair fight meaning critical fight criticisms with two women people of color how's that not the best news in the entire United States do you feel me
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the entire United States do you feel me I mean you could look at this as you know bad but when that's the kind of conversation we're having don't lose sight that they got there you know they got to the show I talked about Trump he knows how to put it on a shelf and he understands the value of the show he knows that politics is you know it's much the show as it is the the deals and the negotiations and some and Omar and to Labe and AOC in particular they get it they understand the power of the show and they and they bring it so I give tremendous respect to all of those Squad members for amazing success in this country even if you don't like any of their policies so let's not lose that and I'm going to end on that note and I'll talk to you later