Episode 625 Scott Adams: Jeffrey Epstein, Donny Deutsch, NRA

Date: 2019-08-11 | Duration: 1:08:03

Topics

Donnie Deutsch continues to fan red-hot glowing embers, but why? Why wasn’t Epstein on suicide watch? Willful dereliction of duty or Institutional incompetence? State Department policy update… Comparing Israel policy to Nazi policy is anti-semitic Is Donny Deutsch in violation of this policy? Can the NRA self-police ALL gun owners to reduce gun violence? NO NRA member has ever been a mass shooter Could they be incorporated to help ID and reduce danger? Yang cries on stage, lots of empathy…but a leader who cries in public? “Slow-Joe” as a nickname for Joe Biden Massive consumption of mass shootings in movies, TV, video games… …What influence do they have, for anyone “near the edge”?

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um good stuff yes it is less than 100 days until my buck loser think hits the market you could pre-order it now find out what's going on in this crazy world understand it for the first time ever all right um the big news today is that Jeffrey Epstein is still dead how long do you think we're going to be talking about this a while but while it's still fun now usually I do not find pleasure in anybody's death Osama Bin Laden was an exception Jeffrey Epstein is another exception given that a hundred percent of the people in the world including Jeffrey Epstein wanted him dead I can't generate any empathy whatsoever let's talk about a few things
um yesterday I was saying that Trump critics

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I was saying that Trump critics who are calling all Trump supporters white supremacists or white supremacist enablers which is the same thing that they're despicable and I I call them to Donnie Deutsch in particular who has of late been saying that Trump is clearly a white supremacist and anybody who votes for him has that same stain on them so you know don't pretend you're not a white supremacist if you voted for Trump now I likened Donny Deutsch's approach to creating a race war and driving the country apart based on largely believing in the Charlottesville hoax which is the alpha hoax which makes you believe all the other stuff was true too and that's confirmation bias so I was likening what Deutsche was doing on a moral plane to Jeffrey Epstein well it turns out that I know somebody who knows Donnie deutschen

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who knows Donnie deutschen he's not he did not appreciate being compared to Jeffrey Epstein it turns out
now you know what I don't appreciate being compared to um white supremacists I don't I don't appreciate that do any of you appreciate the Donnie Deutsch goes on television and tries to set you up to be murdered let's call it what it is Donnie Deutsch when he calls you white supremacist is making it dangerous for you to go outside if you're identified as a trump supporter so from a moral perspective is putting a Target on 60 million people's backs for liking Trump for whatever reason usually taxes or Supreme Court picks or whatever um calling them white supremacists and marking them for death because that's what it does let's let's be honest in the United States in 2019 if you label somebody explicitly as a

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if you label somebody explicitly as a white supremacist you're marking them for death there's no other way to put that now just the fact that people have been beaten but haven't actually died yet that I'm aware of maybe there's an exception that doesn't mean that he's not marking you for death so when I say that from a moral perspective what Donnie Deutsch is doing is identical in Badness on the moral scale because it's a they're both tens they're both as bad as you can get you just can't get worse than either of those two things um I think it's a fair comparison Donnie Deutsch apparently had some trouble with that comparison that's the world to win if if you do something that makes you look just like just like the worst person in the world people are gonna interpret it that way I believe that's Donnie Deutsch's Point too except he his world view is based on

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too except he his world view is based on a hoax so his gullibility had took him took him down the well he's still at the top of the Charlottesville fine people a hoax funnel he probably still thinks that the president was uh calling the neo-nazis fine people even though the record clearly says the opposite um
um anyway let's go on let's talk about everybody is theorizing about Epstein and I know you want to hear my theory because mine is the best one all right now I tweeted yesterday that uh later yesterday I said I like a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone which is true I really like my conspiracy theories I don't believe them most of the time but I like them I certainly enjoy them on lots of different levels and so do you that's why they're so popular so I thought I'd like a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone but if the other theory is simple incompetence I go with the odds

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I go with the odds now at the time I wrote this I didn't yet know if there would be a legitimate second theory that there was some incompetence involved and it wasn't wasn't what we think it is but turns out there is now a smart person with experience who has exactly that theory it is oh then somebody reacted to me saying that it might be just simple incompetence and because this is Twitter somebody interpreted my statement this way somebody said what does Scott Adams know about the clintons I don't think he wants to become a member of the hashtag Clinton's body count Club no I didn't tweet that to save my life thank you for asking I tweeted it because I'm the guy who wrote the Dilbert cartoon still do for 30 years if your job is writing the Dilbert cartoon

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cartoon uh for 30 years what do you see first when you see a large organization and something went wrong
my job for 30 years and then plus my corporate experience before that which informed my cartooning if you were to tell me something went wrong in a large organization be it IBM or be it a prison system or the justice system what is always the top explanation incompetence somewhere now
now given that in general that's always going to be your go-to explanation if you have one explanation that that requires a clever conspiracy and you know lots of steps and things had to happen and it was smuggling and cameras were turned off and rules were violated and you know and we'll never look into it if your second theory is

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look into it if your second theory is that but your first theory is well looks like it's like every other organization in the world which one of those is more likely I don't want to ruin your fun but one of those is more likely now I want to be as clear as I can because most of you live in this black and white world where where you think I'm saying it's definitely that I'm not saying that I'm saying if you're going to play the odds it's probably 20 20 to 1. that it's incompetence but there's still a solid five percent that something you know suspicious happened now there's something in between where there might have been somebody who just let's say turned around or somebody who was a little late on the rounds intentionally so there's there's probably some kind of Middle Ground where it wasn't incompetence but it was a a willful

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incompetence but it was a a willful dereliction of Duty to get something done you know so I'm not sure if that's a big plot if let's say the only person involved was the prison guard what if it was just one person it was a prison guard and it had nothing to do with anything except that he hates happens to hate pedophiles so he looked the other way for a little while Maybe so we got those possibilities let's see what some smart people say about those two possibilities incompetence versus Master Plan and and clever plot um
um so here are the things we know based on the latest reporting no foul play is suspected in his death of federal official told CNN so a federal official who I would assume this federal official is not going to be exactly the same person who's in on the plot unless it's such a big plot that the very first

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such a big plot that the very first federal official you ask about it is in on it what are the odds of that the one person they got a quote from is also in on the plot Maybe that's again that's not impossible but it's unlikely so this federal official who was talking to CNN this is CNN's reporting um
um the bureau's release called it quote an apparent suicide what how could it how could it be ambiguous you you ask yourself how many ways can it be ambiguous because didn't you think he hung himself wasn't that what you thought now if he hung himself would that be ambiguous I suppose so because somebody else could have hung him right it's possible um
um so the authorities believe Epstein hanged himself a law enforcement Source said um and the medical examiner hasn't yet

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um and the medical examiner hasn't yet determined his manner of death okay um I said it's not clear so in July when he had his first event that was maybe an attack and maybe a suicide his first attack apparently they decided wasn't necessarily suicide so if you're asking yourself how could a person who had attempted suicide so recently not be on suicide watch because apparently he wasn't the answer is they determined he didn't try to kill himself the first time now here's the piece of evidence that I have not seen introduced which I will introduce it's sort of something you already know but nobody's mentioned it yet
yet Epstein is not like a regular prisoner in lots of ways one of the ways he's not like a regular prisoner is that he's really smart and he's manipulative and he's one of the best con men

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he's one of the best con men of all time based on what he managed to do based on the way he made his money based on how many people he manipulated to be part of his plan based on everything we know about him he would be one of the most successfully manipulative people of all time now if one of the most successfully manipulative people in the world was asked did you try to kill yourself or did somebody else attack you and he said I didn't do this to myself I was attacked could he convince the jail that that was true better than probably anybody I'll bet he could convince a a Jail Authority of something that a regular prisoner could not we're talking about a world Superstar of persuasion in in all the bad ways um against a Jailer who's seen a lot of people lie but they've never seen

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people lie but they've never seen anything like this guy somebody says now you're reaching hold on
on I'm just I'm just laying out the evidence would you disagree with this statement that he would be more able to lie and manipulate than an average prisoner would you accept that he would be way above average in manipulative lying ability so that way we just took that as the fact would he be able to convince people that he wasn't a risk let me ask you this if I wanted to kill myself and you know I can be pretty convincing and I wanted people to think I did not want to kill myself how persuasive would I be making the case that although it's true there was this thing that looked like a suicide it wasn't really I was just attacked how hard would it be to convince authorities that I had no intention to harm myself pretty easy pretty easy I can imagine that dumb

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pretty easy I can imagine that dumb people can't do it I can imagine the people who were distressed and and have you know mental problems Etc I could imagine that they'd be bad at convincing people that they don't mean any harm to themselves but the most manipulative one of the brightest people who's ever been in jail could he could he convince people that he didn't mean to harm himself yeah he could I know he could because I could I could absolutely convince my jailers that I did not mean to hurt myself and it wouldn't even be that hard so
so we don't know if that happened I'm just saying most successful persuasive manipulative con man of all time versus an ordinary prison um Authority you know employees he would be pretty pretty persuasive all right here are some other things that I haven't heard mentioned how many pedophiles do they put on suicide watch we all know

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do they put on suicide watch we all know that pedophiles are at special risk for suicide how many of them as a percentage are put on the suicide watch because it's expensive isn't it don't you think the suicide watch is pretty expensive because you've got your cameras extra authorities have to use special facilities
I would assume without knowing anything about the system that there are probably more people who need suicide watch than there are facilities to provide it don't you imagine that there are plenty of pedophiles in that same prison who are not being on suicide watch and yet we all know pedophiles are at high risk for suicide so if he was considered for suicide watch and then talk them out of it it would probably be business as usual does the prison does the prison system have an obligation to treat him fundamentally

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obligation to treat him fundamentally differently than they would have treated every other pedophile I don't know how much of his outside you know risk Etc they can consider once he's in jail once you're in jail aren't there a set of rules that are the jail rules and don't you use the jail rules on everybody largely the same I would think so so if the jail rule is that you must satisfy this certain set of you know checklist in order to get the expensive and rare facilities to be on suicide watch if you don't check the boxes I'll bet you don't get the suicide watch and what would be one of the boxes to check does the person's express any interest out loud and suicide and what if Epstein has never expressed it what if the first time he was found injured he said are you kidding I don't want to kill myself I'm going to win this case he might have been lying but

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this case he might have been lying but you can easily imagine him saying that so
so let's take that effect into consideration that there's an economic element to this There Are Rules probably somebody says you're wrong so for those new I'm blocking the person who said the two words you're wrong because even if they're joking my rule for years has been if you say those two words with nothing else given that there's enough room to give an explanation of what you think is wrong if all you say is you're wrong you get blocked because I don't need people like you or in my life if you have a reason I want to hear it if you know if there's something that I don't haven't considered Etc I'm I'm all in on that but talking in that way you're wrong that's insta block all right um
um let's talk about some more facts see if we can sort this out um

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so there's a criminal defense and constitutional lawyer based in Atlanta Paige pate and he's got an opinion because he's got a lot of experience in this coin this kind of
some people are testing me to see if I'll block them for saying you're wrong and I hope you're happy with your test because you just got blocked so the uh criminal defense lawyer says and I quote um but I don't think that means that the prison guards or staff intentionally look the other way while Epstein killed himself so the lawyer says in my practice so he's talking from experience here in my practice I have often been frustrated by the
the incompetence of certain Bop correctional officers and management so he's often been frustrated about incompetence from the very people that we're talking about and remember I said if one of the theories is incompetence it just is automatically 20 to 1 most

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it just is automatically 20 to 1 most likely it doesn't even matter what the situation is it's just always the likely one
one um
um while it is possible this is the lawyer continuing while it is possible something more nefarious was a play that's the same thing I say it's possible he says I think it is much more likely that Epstein's suicide was a result of negligence and not some Grand conspiracy um CNN has reached out for comment from the facilities people now so here's somebody with experience in this very realm who says incompetent oh yeah it's it's an incompetent organization that is commonly producing a lot of incompetence so what is what is the chances what are the chances given that this feels very credible to me because what this lawyer is saying is I have experience and I can tell you that they're incompetent often

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tell you that they're incompetent often that that is a thing so I think that's reliable information because he's not making a specific claim he's talking about his experience overall I feel like we could trust that if somebody says something differently uh later if somebody says you know the Bureau of Prisons hires the finest employees you you would never guess that but we have the best hiring and we hire only the finest employees does that sound like that would be true do you think that the people who I hate to say this but I'm going to do you think that the people who go into that profession and they say let me ask you this I'll put it in the starkest possible way when somebody is considering all of their career Alternatives and they decide that their career move is to be inside a prison all day with all of all that that implies does that tell you that that's a person with good decision making well sometimes yes they might be people

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well sometimes yes they might be people who you know maybe they're on a career path toward being policemen or something police officers I should say uh maybe you know maybe uh there aren't many jobs in their town maybe they're just doing it for a little while until they do something better in all those cases they could be top level employees but they're just passing through but in general if you're looking at all the career opportunities in the world and you say to yourself you know I'd kind of like the one where I'm personally in prison literally in prison all my working day every day I don't know does that tell you that those are the most capable people in the world maybe because like I said I'm not going to make a broad statement about all of them I'm sure that many of them are highly capable but as a rule in theory you know I'll use the shoe salesman's rule to make my point I have a theory that most men who sell

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I have a theory that most men who sell women's shoes have a foot fetish or at least a shoe fetish because they're the ones who would be willing to work for the least amount of pay so over time you would expect that that profession would attract a lot of people with fun fetishes why wouldn't it I mean it just makes sense that doesn't mean every huge salesman has a foot fetish but over time it should attract more people who do than other professions likewise pedophiles are attracted to you know being little league coaches and scouting leaders and stuff like that at a greater level than you know other professions would because why wouldn't it
it all right so there's that but let me give you a counter counted that the counter comes from a convict who would bet in those same facilities so Fox News talk to a person anonymously we don't know his name doesn't matter but he's got a lot of experience in being in the same prison so apparently he's been in this prison more than once

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he's been in this prison more than once all right so the first person who says I think it's probably incompetence is a highly trained lawyer with lots of experience so his credibility is highly trained large this next guy is literally a convict who not only thought that committing crimes for a living was a good career move compared to his Alternatives but also got caught more than once which one of these is smarter is the Constitutional lawyer smarter and more credible than the convict who couldn't even get away with his crimes so the convict who couldn't even get away with his crimes points out that between the floor and the ceiling is like eight or nine feet there's no way for you to connect to anything so he's talking about the ability to hang yourself there's there's nothing to connect to you have sheets but they're paper level not strong enough so he was 200 pounds so it could never happen this is good inside information when

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this is good inside information when you're on suicide watch oh here's the problem the convict is describing a situation in which you're on suicide watch Epstein wasn't that's the problem that he wasn't on suicide watch so everything that this convict is reporting that says it would be difficult or too impossible because the convict says it's impossible if you're in one of these suicide watch facilities no way because there's just too many people watching and and you don't have any materials in in there that could ever be used to kill yourself um but let's say let's say that Epstein was in some kind of a cell that maybe was not monitored with cameras you know maybe he wasn't watched all the time but perhaps they put him in the cell was that had been specially constructed to have no good you know suicide materials in it here's the next question if this convict who was so dumb that he can't even

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who was so dumb that he can't even commit crimes without getting caught and he's been in this facility multiple times and keeps committing crimes and getting caught so he goes back to that facility um if that guy couldn't figure out how to use the materials in this room to kill himself does that tell you that Epstein by every account extraordinarily smart one of the smartest people who's ever been in that prison doesn't mean that he couldn't figure out how to do it because if you think about it those rooms are sort of like Escape rooms you've seen the commercial Escape rooms where they put you in a room I haven't done it but I understand they put you in a room with certain materials and then you have to figure out the puzzle of how the group of you get out of the room so this jail cell was sort of like a an escape room they're required a certain level of IQ to escape just because this convict was well below the IQ level that would allow him to figure out how to use the materials in

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figure out how to use the materials in this room to kill himself does that tell you much about somebody with Epstein's IQ not that much because honestly I've got a feeling that somebody with Epstein's IQ would have a better shot at putting those materials together in a productive way to kill himself I mean didn't he wear a clothes are you telling me that the convicts don't have clothes on or are the clothes made out of tissue paper because uh somebody says if you pee on your boxers you can hang yourself with them okay well I'm not going to test that but I'll I'll take your word for that
um that's a thought I wish I'd never had in my entire life all right so if he wasn't on suicide watch he probably could have talked people into the notion that he wasn't worth their limited resources for that we don't know if that's the case um so

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um so remember we're in the fog of War about this whole situation I guess attorney general Barr is having Justice look into it he's even having the the IG look into it and they're pretty serious about finding out what the f happened so I think all the right people are going to look into it here's what I expect and I want you to to compare your predictions to mine remember let me give you some context for those of you who are new to this periscope I I present a world view and a filter on reality based on persuasion and based on the limits of you know human um perception let's say and I try to make predictions when it makes sense and then I try to do it publicly so that you can see if my filter predicts better than whatever filter you were using before and and that's all I'm doing so I make predictions I see how well they predict so I'm going to predict counter to the

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so I'm going to predict counter to the primary belief the primary belief I think here is that there was something sketchy that happened my my filter says that a big organization is always incompetent and that this level of incompetence even as obvious as it was that there should have been people watching this thing even as obvious as that is a big organization is simply not competent in general for everything and the odds of somebody like Epstein taking advantage of that incompetence pretty good pretty good so I will so I'm going to put my bet on ultimately there will be incompetence there may still be some question about why somebody was incompetent that may never be answered because you can't prove a negative so if it comes down to you know this guard or this official should have done X but they did Y and Y is incompetent was it

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Y and Y is incompetent was it intentional probably never know because if it was just incompetence you could never sort that out from somebody who acted incompetently intentionally because they had a payoff now could you check the financial records or something else of the the person who is responsible and find out if they had taken a payoff nope because if they accepted cryptocurrency for their payoff can you track it if if a prisoner says to a guard hey guard I'll give you a million dollars in in Bitcoin if you look the other way and the guard's going to say um I don't think you can do that and and then Epstein says I'll tell you what open up a crypto wallet and you give me your numbers or better yet here's a phone number call my assistant and just say my name is Bob and I've been asked to call and give you

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and I've been asked to call and give you these numbers I'll just give you these numbers and it gives out the the code for his wallet then Epstein's assistant behind the scenes takes Epstein super secret crypto and sends a million dollars to the guard no record right now maybe somebody who knows more than about crypto than I do can they answer whether that's whether I'm speaking correctly I'm not the expert here [Music] um so could you make a crypto let's say Bitcoin bribe that was undetectable in the normal scheme of things I think so right let me know if I'm wrong about that all right um
let's talk about so the U.S state Department I don't know if you saw this story but this is really interesting they updated their definition of anti-semitism so apparently there I didn't even know this but there's a there's an official

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but there's a there's an official um there was a 10 point checklist of whether you're being anti-semitic and they they increase that to 11. the explanation is that it's in response to Elon Omar's U.S representative Omar's anti-israel
um machinations and so the new the new definition has added so this has been added to the the existing things that say if you do these things you're anti-Semitic that anti-Semitism now includes quote drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis so if you compare Israel to the Nazis you're anti-semitic now not Israel but Israel policy so I want to be very clear we're not it's not a description of the people it's a description of Israeli policy compared to Nazi policy so if you do those things you are anti-Semitic now uh and the leader of the us-based

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now uh and the leader of the us-based pro-israel organization praised the move so here's what I'm wondering given that Israel is a big supporter of President Trump and president Trump is a big supporter of Israel especially Israeli policy has is Trump complaining about Israeli policy maybe in some ways but I don't know that he is I don't think he is right I don't know that President Trump disagrees with anything important on Israeli policy in fact president Trump is one of the most strongly supportive of policy moves the embassy uh declares Golan Heights uh part of Israel um he seems the most pro-israeli policy person that ever it was now what does Donnie Deutsch call the most pro-israeli president of

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call the most pro-israeli president of all time he calls him a white supremacist basically Hitler doesn't that mean that by the state Department's definition Donnie Deutsch is anti-Semitic because if you're if you're criticizing the person who is most pro-israel and pro-israel policy in particular because it's the president so it's it's really policy that he's dealing with and you're calling that person literally uh white supremacist which I think we all equate with Hiller um have you come close to or have you accomplished this the state Department's new
new guideline for what qualifies as anti-Semitic just a question just a question
um and you can see how how
how Troublesome all of these definitions are

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Troublesome all of these definitions are all right now is it fair for me to keep saying bad things about Donnie Deutsch well Donnie Deutsch has uh has opened the floodgates by calling 60 million voters white supremacist supporters I think that that shows us what the new rules are and in my opinion and by the way this is an honest opinion I'm not making up an opinion for political gain in my honest opinion he is the moral equivalent of uh Hitler or the moral equivalent equivalent of uh a Serial pedophile meaning that it's the worst of the worst of the worst level I'm not saying he does those things I'm saying that at a memorial level that kind of demonization of a group is the worst thing that you could do all right
um there's some reporting that the NRA is

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there's some reporting that the NRA is in disarray I guess they've got some leadership problems um some some turnover Etc I guess they're lobbyists quit and there's some other things so it turns out that the NRA may not be as effective as they have been in the past just because some internal turmoil there at the same time uh
uh at the same time
uh president Trump has lots of pressure more pressure than there's ever been to get something done on on guns and I can't think of a president who would be more equipped to make something happen and I'm just going to put this out here imagine if you will that Trump said you know I'm going to solve this one thing just because I can and he just he just took the NRA and said hey NRA help me with this and after the third time he asked the NRA to help and after the third time they don't

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and after the third time they don't and and the President says I'm I'm exposed here you don't have a choice anymore if you could either help me that's first choice or I'm gonna tear you apart I think the president is on the verge because his own you know career and Legacy et cetera is being influenced by the NRA and they're not they're not really as productive as he needs them to be
be I think he might destroy them like actually destroy the NRA now when I say destroy them I mean that he could do enough damage just from the bully pulpit he could just blame him think about it this president could say look I've been pro-nra from the jump I think they are a value you know they've been valuable but I'm asking them for the smallest changes you know let's say whatever it is you know better background checks or

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is you know better background checks or whatever and I'm not getting it we can no longer consider them our friends and just tear them apart I think this President could do that I think somebody says he'd lose his base would he would he loses basically NRA cooperated let's say the NRA says yeah you know we didn't push for this before but we do need to make some changes now let's say the NRA cooperated with with the president loses base then
um he's not going to blame the NRA because they gave him 30 million I don't think that matters anymore do you do you think that all of the money from the NRA would make any difference at this point because Trump is Raising so much money compared to the the alternative I don't think he cares about 30 million Trump could throw in 30 million of his own tomorrow couldn't he

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tomorrow couldn't he he could just say Imagine This just just imagine this president comes out and says you know I'm pro-gun I own a gun I've done pro NRA from the start but you can't just do the same things that aren't working and I'd be okay with that what we're doing now you know the collectively all the things we do aren't working if you're not willing to change that get another president if you want to stick with something you know doesn't work and is killing you know X number of people a year get another president vote against me I'm going to take him on and I'm you know I'm going to put in 30 million dollars into my own campaign and I'm going to give them their check back whatever uh all I'm asking is these Common Sense things and I could even say we'll try it for a while and see if it works you can even say well you know it'll be a one-year trial a two-year trial

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a one-year trial a two-year trial whatever depending on the change and we'll just see if it works see if it ruins the country or makes things better um now I know that the uh now here's the thing if the president goes hard at the NRA and gets a few things changed that are still within the reasonable category I don't think it's ever unreasonable to ask for background checks I don't think the red flag laws are necessarily unreasonable they all have problems and I would acknowledge that there's no perfect change right everything has a little friction a little bit of expense but they are reasonable by their nature um they're reasonable by their nature and you know with the red flag laws people worry that they'll be used in the wrong way Etc definitely a risk but I think we'd see that risk pretty early and you know I think we would counter it

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and you know I think we would counter it um
um so here's the thing if the president pushed art in the NRA and said I'll give you a choice the country no longer will tolerate no change they will tolerate a bad change think about it this is the first time the country has been willing to accept a bad change because the only thing we can no longer tolerate collectively not talking about myself is no change it's the only thing that's intolerable is no significant change we would even accept collectively a bad decision just to try it out because you know even bad decisions are not permanent just something absolutely just something and it's got to be enough to make some some kind of an impact now I think this President could do this I would fully support him taking out the NRA if they can't help I would fully support that but I'm also

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I would fully support that but I'm also supportive of the NRA in general now the NRA has said uh and I love this because this is this is a real strong point I believe it's true that none of these uh mass shootings have happened for people who are members of the NRA somebody fact checked me on that has there ever been a mass shooting of somebody who is a member of the NRA because I think there's an opportunity for something interesting here that's good for everybody suppose you said let us acknowledge the power of your organization to self-police and let us say that if you're a member of the NRA you have perhaps fewer restrictions than other people is there a way to make that happen in other words could the NRA be part of the solution instead of what many people think is part of the problem could you not say that people who join the NRA first of all joining the NRA requires you to give your name to the NRA does it

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you to give your name to the NRA does it not
not how can you join the NRA unless they have your name and if you've joined the NRA
NRA and they have your name and address they kind of know you own a gun they don't know necessarily how many but well actually they probably do I'll bet you there's an NRA survey occasionally that says what kind of guns do you have Maybe not maybe they don't want that information to exist but I wouldn't be surprised if they did so here's what I'm asking could it be that we take advantage of the fact that the NRA absolutely does does seem to if not cause good behavior it might at least filter out people who have bad behavior could you say that if you're in the NRA maybe you have you know less restrictions or something like that um I would I would be okay with that because I think you could come up with some kind of scheme where being in the NRA helps the NRA helps you as a gun owner and still doesn't prevent you from

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owner and still doesn't prevent you from doing whatever Common Sense thing you want to do all right um
um did you see the video of candidate yang crying on stage um about the the death of a child by guns did you all see that video um
um in one in one way I think it was a positive because it showed his emotion on a so he was pacing incense he was pacing his base because his base feels the same way he does to the point where it brought him to tears listening to a mother talk about her daughter being shot by I don't know stray bullet or something I I can't remember the specific situation but it's some tragedy involving her child and yang broke down on stage and and cried
now that's a little bit good because we like

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that's a little bit good because we like people who have empathy especially if they're running for an office that has power if somebody has power you really want them to have empathy too because if you have power and no empathy well your Genghis Khan all right you know your Pol Pot so you don't want to have power and no empathy so you ain't got that right but here's the thing do you want a leader who cries in public well for anything probably not because you know we we elect presidents to go to go over and be our brand to go over and and negotiate with Kim Jong-un and Putin and president XI um once they see your President crying over one death no matter how tragic it's one death of somebody he doesn't know now we we applaud him for his empathy so I'm certainly not making fun of it in any way it was a it looked like

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of it in any way it was a it looked like a genuine human reaction somebody say Who's acting I don't think so yeah I I just I just don't buy I don't buy the explanation that he was acting um
um you know you can't rule it out but I don't think that's true so I don't know if that helped him or heard him something tells me it might help him to get nominated but it would hurt him in the it would hurt him in the general election should he get so far um did Biden have another gaffe recently is his Gaff production through the roof yet I want to try out a new nickname for uh Biden so the president has called him sleepy Joe but as we see Maura Biden you have to ask yourself all right is that a nickname working you know is Sleepy what you think of in terms of identifying his biggest weakness and energy wise Biden seems pretty good

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and energy wise Biden seems pretty good so the few times that we see him in public he seems to have good energy so the the Sleepy part maybe maybe is not hitting exactly so somebody suggested to me this and I don't think this is the first time you've heard this but how about Slow Joe Slow Joe Rhymes so it's stickier there's actually science to that things that rhyme stick in your mind and take on greater weight than they should there's actually science that says that if something Rhymes you think it's more true that's a thing that's been tested if it rhymes as in if the glove doesn't fit you must equipped the rhyme is not just for fun the rhyme is functional it makes you think it's true because it Rhymes that is how dumb we are the human brain is so dumb that if it Rhymes we think it's true I don't mean every person every time but on average is far more persuasive so

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on average is far more persuasive so here's what's good about solojo besides the fact that it Rhymes it slips off the tongue really easy sleepy gel also comes off the tongue easy so you want that so it's at least as good as sleepy and sloppy somebody's saying sloppy so same thing they they both roll off the tongue good well so Slow Joe works that way but here's the other way it works better if I say Joe is slow how do you interpret it let's see in the comments if I say Joe Biden is slow what is your interpretation of what that word means so I'm just looking at your comments it'll take a minute for it to uh to catch up to what I said um
slow Mojo Jared toll Joe gaffy Joe people are giving me new suggestions here so people seem to like Slow Joe uh weekend at Biden

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all right it's taking a while for your comments to catch up but here's here's the punch line to it Slow Joe is persuasion perfect because it allows the uh the hearer the audience to fill in what they think it means that's good technique the more specific you are the worse it is so if you said um Joe Biden has a bad bad vocabulary that would be the most specific insult to his intelligence and then if he doesn't exhibit that or if people have not noticed that it doesn't connect you'd say he has a bad vocabulary I know I haven't noticed right it might be true but I haven't noticed so it wouldn't really have any persuasive power but when you say you slow this is a analogous to when Hillary Clinton in 2016 used the nuclear-powered persuasion that the Trump campaign was dark

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Trump campaign was dark the reason dark works so well and is also the reason that that word alone identified that there was a professional advising them that's when I that's when I assumed that the person I called Godzilla must be advising or at least somebody who was um learned from him um chiltini in this case would be the Godzilla I'm talking about so that word alone tipped me off that there was a professional advising Clinton it wasn't just political people it was a persuasion expert and that and the technique that I identified was that the word dark allowed you to read into it your own thoughts that is nuclear persuasion slow allows you to read in your own interpretation does it mean he's too old does it mean he doesn't think fast doesn't mean he has gaps doesn't mean he was never Smart in the

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doesn't mean he was never Smart in the first place doesn't mean he won't get much done because he has low energy it's whatever you want you end up putting into it whatever is the most powerful message for you you actually design your own persuasion from that stem cell of a of a sentence or or of a nickname now sleepy is a little too specific isn't it because when if I say somebody's sleepy I don't necessarily think they're dumb I don't necessarily think they might have an age issue not necessarily I think sleepy I think maybe you know he doesn't show up for enough uh events not to powerful Slow Joe pretty powerful anyway I'll just put that out there as a possibility that one thing I can say for sure is that nobody can advise this President on good nicknames um I just don't think that's a thing he

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um I just don't think that's a thing he is so good at it that um I don't assume that mine is better or that he doesn't have a better idea he's just better at it than other people all right I believe that's everything I wanted to talk about um
and the headlines were very interesting today because it seems like everything that's happened in the past three weeks stopped existing read the headlines on both CNN.com and foxnews.com so you can see both sides and ask yourself if there's anything in the news there was also a story three weeks ago and there's almost nothing so this Epstein thing and then on CNN they have lots of stories about sexual abuse in the military which you know there's some topics I just stay away from they don't have a persuasion element to them and they're

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persuasion element to them and they're just icky
yeah so even even dumb somebody's suggesting dumb Biden even dumb is too specific if you said if you had a nickname for him that was you know dumb Biden um that would indicate a lack of technique I would see that and I'd say no no technique there if I saw a Slow Joe I'd say whoa there's some technique that's technique
um Elon Musk supports yang interesting um
very interesting thoughts on the hunt getting canceled um I don't know too much about the movie except it's something about Elites hunting down and shooting other people or something um and it's very much like every other movie like that you know you have to here's the question so we have this

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here's the question so we have this rating system which we've all gotten used to since I don't know since back in the days of Tipper Gore when she was trying to get music labeled for how profane it was which I always supported by the way because she was not trying to censor anything although that was the accusation she was trying to label things and I can't disagree with somebody who wants to accurately label products like I can't how is that wrong I mean that um so I always agreed with temper Gore wanting to put labels on music so at least you know what you're buying you could buy it or not buy it but at least you knew what it was and that was hugely controversial likewise when movies started having ratings you know R-rated x-rated hugely controversial but aren't you all used to it now is there when was the last time you complained about movies having ratings can you think of the last time you complained about that and at one time it

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complained about that and at one time it was a big deal oh our freedom is being taken away but eventually you just realize it's just a system that gives you more information about what the product is that's not a problem but it does also put some control to prevent some kind of people from consuming the the edgier products what if we said that movies and content whether it's video games with gun violence are X-rated by definition and you have to be an adult to consume it period you can't consume now maybe you you'd put some kind of limit on it let's say you put a limit that says okay if somebody gets shot in the movie you know that's still okay maybe that's an R rating you know maybe it's gp13 whatever PG-13 but if it's just say one person gets murdered and maybe they just talk about it or you hear The Gunshot and somebody drops and there's one murderer that's you know the beginning

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murderer that's you know the beginning of the show that it's the crime that gets solved well maybe that's not X-rated because it's about an individual crime it gets solved there's a happy ending Etc
Etc but
but movies in which Mass numbers of people are slaughtered I think we should consider making them x-rated now it would destroy the entire industry that's okay when was the last time you saw a good movie right it's been a while the last time you saw a good movie I I flew recently and you know when you're flying any movie looks good because you're flying and you're trapped for a while so I was flying yesterday and I opened up the the app on the plane that lets me see all the new releases do you know how many new movies out of all the movies in the world do you know how many looked interesting enough to even open up to even just sample it

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to even just sample it none there wasn't a single movie out of all movies that was even a little bit interesting to me now I'll bet you've had not quite maybe on the little extreme but I'll bet you're having that same um experience I'll bet every one of you who used to love movies have discovered that for some reason they don't work anymore and I think it has to do with people changing it could have to do with all the movies became too much the same movie that could be it I mean if you watch somebody says Fast and Furious was Bonkers but fun um
um yeah Fast and Furious uh but by the third time you've watched a fast and furious movie or the 25th time you've seen a superhero movie you're just watching the same movie right you're watching the same movie over and over and over again so I would say that the movie industry is sort of garbage anyway the the last time I

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garbage anyway the the last time I consistently liked movies is when my stepkids were very young and because there weren't many things that you could do with young kids we would watch a lot of Disney movies the Disney movies really good and they didn't have mass shootings the quality of a typical Pixar movie The taught the quality of a typical um Disney film is pretty good so I would say let people make any kind of content they want but we should label it
it and once you're watching mass shootings all the time I think you have to ask yourself what's it do to children to see to have mass shooter content around them 24 hours a day I don't think there's any chance that any any professional somebody who knows children who knows persuasion let's say a psychiatrist somebody who's an expert I don't think you could find an expert who would disagree me on this disagree with me on the following statement

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with me on the following statement massive exposure to gun violence would make somebody who's on the edge more likely to choose that as a path I don't think anybody would disagree with that now how much more likely you could have a disagreement but if you have millions of people consuming this content and some of them are already on the edge and some of them want to do bad things as other people have suggested these mass shootings are basically fancy suicides these are people who want to die having fun or making a statement or being remembered some some version of all those things these are suicides if you can convince the suicide person that the first thing they think of is well maybe it's just me or maybe I should go get some help which would be the ideal that would be a completely different message it would be the first thing they think of instead of well the first thing I think of is massively shooting huge

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I think of is massively shooting huge crowds of people because that's all the content I've been consuming every day for the last 10 years if you started seeing those movies for the first time or you haven't seen many because you know there would be some leakage you'd obviously see a few but if you didn't get to see them on the regular until you were 18 would it have the same impact on your thinking I don't know maybe we could test it
um I I I've seen some statistics well not statistics but an opinion they said that um watching violent video games is not correlated with these shootings because everybody watches violent video games but not everybody becomes a shooter to which I say oh my God if you analyze that wrong here's how you analyze that show me how many mass shooters never watched any of

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many mass shooters never watched any of this content because there's got to be somewhere that there's a kid maybe either religious or whatever and they just don't have access to television and movies how many people let's say they're raised in the ultra religious um household there must be somewhere a religious community in which people are pro-gun meaning that they have them for self-defense but they just won't let you watch any Hollywood movies because they're just so depraved those people must exist there must be enough of them that we could measure whether or not they produce Mass killers I'll bet you they produce zero the people who have had no exposure to them I'll bet they have zero Mass Shooters now I don't know how many people you could find I mean maybe it would be hard to get a sample but that's the question I'd be asking I'd be asking if if you're having that at the top of your mind what is the likelihood you'll

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your mind what is the likelihood you'll do it versus you're just never exposed to it they can't be the same they just can't be the same I mean I'm willing to to find out I'm wrong but I don't believe they could do the same all right um more violent video games in the last 50 years and less actual violence um on a one-to-one basis that's true so I told you I was reading that book American nations I think it's called about the beginning of the United States and I'll tell you the history that you learned about America is so freaking wrong now it's not wrong in terms of the the big picture you know the history you learned is you know on this date there was an American Revolution and America won you know so the big stuff your history is correct but it turns out that the earlier early colonial life was basically an entire country full of freaking bastards

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full of freaking bastards the the thought that we would um let's say turn into Heroes the early founders of this country you'll lose that entirely if you learn about the actual way the early country was these were bad people period the founders of this country were Bad Dudes on on the whole I mean there were some good ones thrown in there but the people who had power you know the the big landowners and even the people in the north were slave owners they just had fewer of them that's it Not only was there um the slave trade that came from Africa but the only reason that the African slave trade happened is literally the landowners ran of white people to enslave they were enslaving white people until they ran out of they just didn't have enough they had more more crops than they had white people to enslave in

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they had white people to enslave in those days if you were the landowner and let's say the king of England had said you know you get Pennsylvania or you get this area you were the judge in the jury you could execute anyone in your territory because you were the judge and the Executioner you could just take somebody say I think this guy stole my cow and just killed him and it was legal completely legal it was legal for the powerful people to murder people who happen to live in their land because they were the judge they'd make up the law and then they'd kill them so the early Americans were horrible people they they were routinely massacring the Native American tribes routinely and and there weren't it's not like there were some good ones you know good settlers and bad settlers the settlers were just horrible just horrible people all the time by modern standards

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all the time by modern standards uh you know they seem pretty horrible by those standards too but in those days the the idea that the rich landowner was sort of a God who could really control the lives and deaths literally life and death of everybody in their domain was actually accepted because they they didn't really have too much knowledge of the Alternatives and it was only you know small sex that had the idea that everybody should be treated equally and get a vote and stuff like that but as luck would have it you know that was the the school of thought that became dominant um and probably because of the Civil War you know if we didn't fight a civil war uh maybe the southern view that the rich landowners could have a lot of power might have been the way we were living right now it might be a bunch of fiefdoms uh the other thing I didn't realize is that all of the colonies hated each other to the point of War so the colonies freaking hated each other and here when

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freaking hated each other and here when I say colonies I don't mean even official colonies but all the the little groups of settlers all around they they were very warlike in general um
um so I'll tell you anytime anybody talks about Western culture um I now think murderous slavers because it turns out that if you were to categorize them generally you know obviously there are some good people in the group and they were just people who loved God in the group and so they're plenty of good people but if you were to characterize the average murderous racist slavers that's who they were unapologetically they were overtly murderous racist
slavers so
so that's kind of and if you say well but what about the religious tradition there wasn't a religious tradition there were people with different religions and they were willing to kill each other because the other ones had the wrong religion it

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the other ones had the wrong religion it wasn't really a religious tradition it was all over the board there were people who were religious weren't different different sects the Protestants didn't like the Catholics there was no religious um they're standard anyway it's great but I'll tell you more about it when I'm done that's all I have for now I'll talk to you later bye