Episode 624 Scott Adams: Epstein Taking the Big Dirt-Nap, Word-Thinking, Civil Trade War

Date: 2019-08-10 | Duration: 1:04:24

Topics

Doesn’t “suicide watch” involve somebody…watching? Is Trump doing good things for America just to irritate Bill Maher? Bill Maher continues hoping American economy tanks Domestic trade war being pushed HARD by the Democrats A trade war with ourselves, within our country Will it achieve Bill Maher’s recession wishes and hopes? Andrew Yang weasel words, “people view him as racist” Litmus test for Democrat Candidates? Donny Deutsch says support President Trump, you’re a racist Is he intentionally attempting to create a race war? The “Fine People” HOAX is raging again nationally What’s MISSING from this story and all the coverage? Michael Moore is credible on the left and questioning GND Green energy market…is a scam, per Michael Moore? 3 pillars support the Democrat party, and they’re all collapsing 1. Russian Collusion HOAX 2. Fine people HOAX 3. Economic predictions for climate change HOAX

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hey everybody come on in here it's time for coffee with scott adams it's a very special coffee with scott adams because well why not it should be special hey jack good to see you everybody come on in here take a seat we've got things to talk about yes yes we're gonna be talking about stuff but first you know what you want you want the simultaneous sip and if you'd like to enjoy simultaneous sipping with people all over the world with good intentions the dopamine hit that gets you going all you need is a copper mug or glass starting a chalice a tanker a thermos a flask a vessel of any kind filler with your favorite liquid i like coffee hey thomas join us now for the simultaneous sip

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well so i know you want to talk about uh jeffrey epstein taking as as my late father used to call it the big dirt map so has there ever been a more suspicious suicide nope it is the world's most suspicious suicide now how hard is it to kill yourself in jail well i don't know i i suppose if you tried to hang yourself for something maybe that would work but i would think that the surefire way to do it is i can't imagine that they don't have access to drugs in jail don't you think some kind of drug made into into his his cell now here's the interesting thing epstein is the only person in the world i can think of maybe you can think of another example can you think of anybody else in the world that a hundred percent of the

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world that a hundred percent of the people in the world including epstein wanted him to be dead have you ever seen anything like that i've never seen a situation where everybody wanted somebody to be dead including the person he wanted to be dead his victims wanted him to be dead the public wanted him to be dead even the people who were his friends they definitely wanted him dead because he could he could be talking about the situation now of course the rumor mill will crank up and people are going to say it's those clintons you know epstein was just about to out them and and then those clintons had him killed in
in jail maybe maybe you know if i had to bet on it i'd bet against that i would say that the most obvious explanation is that he wanted to kill himself um oh somebody says he hung himself

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um oh somebody says he hung himself already confirmed by the new york post i we're still early on in this so i wouldn't assume that the early information is accurate but somebody said cardiac arrest and somebody said hanging and are those the same if you cut off your supply of air do you have cardiac arrest and therefore they're similar i don't know so your filter is on fire scott somebody says so in this case my guess is that he hung himself or killed himself one way or the other but he may have had a lot of encouragement from a lot of different people there may be something or somebody on the outside that he cared about that you know he wanted to spare some pain he probably thought he had no chance of avoiding jail so i think he probably took the path that made most sense now you might be asking yourself

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now you might be asking yourself how do you kill yourself by hanging if you're already on suicide watch what does it mean to be on suicide watch if nobody say if nobody's watching i would think the minimum requirement for a suicide watch is somebody watching to see if there's any suicide
so there's something strange going on here and it's possible that the guards the guards may be in on it
it and this is the weirdest case because imagine if you will that we someday learn that somebody else was complicit let's say we learned that somebody else either turned around so it could happen let's say a guard maybe somebody slipped him a rope does anybody care about prosecuting anybody who might have helped him i don't know that anybody helped him but it's it's likely that somebody had to turn around or look the other way

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turn around or look the other way or provide an asset like a rope or something maybe but personally i wouldn't even really care somebody says it's 100 murder what if it is do you care you could poke me on a jury trial and say
say okay here's the video the forensic evidence 100 evidence conclusively proving that this prisoner killed him do i care i'm afraid i don't i'm afraid i don't care because if you kill somebody who wants to die and 100 of the planet earth wants him to die that's what i call a special case you know i think we all agree that you want the laws to be applied equally except in this case can't we have one exception where the laws are not applied equally and
and i would say you know you can limit it to this case say all right how about the laws apply equally whether

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how about the laws apply equally whether you're rich or poor you know black or white male or woman the law should apply equally okay but one exception just one exception if you happen to be an accused serial pedophile who wants to kill yourself and a hundred percent of the people on the planet earth also want to kill you including your best friends maybe then we turn the other turn around and just let it happen all right we'll be jabbering about that a lot uh obviously yet um it might leave a hole in the investigations to find out who else was alive who else was involved i think what this will leave is that his assistant and and the women who were victims are the remaining witnesses but keep in mind that uh epstein probably was never going to be
be his own witness so i don't think he would have told us anything that we needed to know to know who was

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that we needed to know to know who was guilty of what i believe all the evidence would have come from other people anyway so i don't know that this makes any difference unless he had secrets that people thought he was going to spill in return for some kind of reduced sentence but i don't see any kind of reduced sentence when you're 66 and you've you've been accused of such things i mean what would that look like you know get it down to 20 years so that he's only 86 when he gets out of jail yeah so i'm not sure that anybody worried about why he knew all right maybe they did let's talk about some other things um oh and then i guess we have to mention that epstein implicated george mitchell and bill richardson i've seen himself but one of the victims how how reliable do you think that is if you hear that one of the um so-called victims i won't say so-called let's call let's call the victims um if you hear that one of the victims

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um if you hear that one of the victims so now that he's dead you don't have to say alleged so epstein's dad's we don't have to say he's an alleged pedophile we could just call him anything we want now he's dead so we can call the victims victims that are not alleged victims so one of the victims said that george mitchell and bill richardson were somehow involved in all this stuff does that sound credible to you i'm gonna say no i'm gonna say no doesn't mean it's impossible but it's also not impossible that you know you and i were on the airplane i wasn't but maybe you were prince andrew i don't know that any of these names are credible that doesn't mean that it didn't happen you know you can't say i can't prove a negative i can't prove something didn't happen but when i hear the victim naming names um i i just don't leap to guilty i just don't leap that

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to guilty i just don't leap that so he's with ken delay
so i think i would suggest that you do the same if evidence comes out later that suggests there are specific people who are guilty of specific things then maybe you could take that more seriously depending on the evidence but if you have one person whose credibility has been questioned naming some names i don't think we can quite leap to guilty same with dershowitz dershowitz has pointed out that the people accusing him have long histories of literally making up accusations so if you ever get accused of a heinous crime you want to be in dershowitz's situation which is the person making the accusation has a long history of lying and accusing people of stuff that's your ideal situation so i think dershowitz risk if that's if if it all comes down to one person's

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if it all comes down to one person's claims and then one or two people and they're not credible i would say he's in good shape um so let's talk about bill maher and i guess bill engel was on his show and they both agreed that maybe a short-term recession i don't know how long the short term is for a recession would be better than keeping trump as president
to which i say what exactly is the danger of trump i don't know exactly what that's referring to because all of the noise about him being a white supremacist is largely coming from the other side i don't know a single person not a single person who's a republican or a conservative or a trump supporter i'm sure they exist but i've never met one who believes that trump is a white supremacist never met one but the entire other side believes it to the point where it's a national story

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national story so whose fault is it is it the fault of all the people who are looking at the same evidence everybody else is and say um i don't see it it doesn't look that way to me or is the is it the fault of the people who are uh suffering tds because their news sources have have triggered them into a state of continuous rage and unhappiness whose fault is it
seems to me it's sort of a shared fault people who say that the way trump speaks he should know would cause this sort of reaction i would agree with that to a degree there there are some things the president says and the way he says them that i hear them and i say oh i would have said that differently but that also applies to everything else he says there isn't a single thing that this president has ever said that i listen to and i say well that's just the way i would have said it

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just the way i would have said it and so we live in a world where i don't know if you can get the good without the bad
bad you can't really you know hire the politician that has all the good stuff and no bad stuff it'd be great if you could so trump has this mixed bag in which he gets people very worked up and makes them unhappy and causes you know civil uh civil distress at the very least that's real i think if you're a trump supporter you should not discount that to zero you know in terms of how important it is it's a big deal you know the uh the national mood and mind is quite affected by the things he does but if you were going to here's the the mental exercise that i ask people to do imagine that everything that trump said had come out of the mouth of obama or just a democrat but you know pick obama just because we all know him suppose obama had said

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suppose obama had said that the immigration on our southern border is so bad that it's an invasion suppose he'd said that oh that's right he did did anybody complain no because it came from obama but when president trump said there's an invasion people said well keyword invasion must mean you're a racist if if president trump spoke of a rodent infestation in baltimore but let's say it was somebody else said it let's say it was a famous civil rights hero would that bother you no because when representative cummings used exactly the same word speaking of exactly the same situation nobody was bothered so we have all of this up all this evidence of of trump saying things that are sort of you know close to something that somebody else could have said but if someone else had said it you

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but if someone else had said it you would have interpreted it differently is that trump's fault is it trump's fault that he uses the same language and talks a similar way but it's continually taken out of context for political purposes a little bit it's a little bit his fault because he could choose different words things that are harder to take in a context but it would also make him look like every other politician and i don't think people wanted that i think people said here's a politician it looks like he's going to break some dishes but when he's done we'll get some stuff that other politicians couldn't get for us so when trump drops a dish and breaks it do you say you got to get rid of this president or do you say no that's what we signed up for we signed up for broken dishes because we wanted something bigger than broken dishes in return and and most of his supporters would say

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and and most of his supporters would say he's delivering exactly that with lots of broken dishes just like we expected all right let's talk about yang i i praised yang for being the only person that i could think of who hadn't grotesquely lied in the process so far but people pointed out to me that yang recently got cornered into the question of whether trump is a white supremacist an actual white supremacist and yang used weasel words and basically said yes you know he tried to word it in a way that that made it depersonalized but i think in the end he failed he did a really good job i mean he made a heck of a try to say well if somebody acts a certain way and talks a certain way then you know people are going to take it a certain way which is different from saying he's a white supremacist right he's just observing other people's

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he's just observing other people's reaction to trump and describing him that's fair all right when yang said well you know people are taking him that way that was a fair comment people are
are taking him that way why yang leaves out i think disingenuously is why why we're taking him that way is because people like yang go in public and say he's a white supremacist that's why people take him that way i don't believe that people would have reached that opinion on their own if the news had simply reported what's happening instead of what they imagine he's thinking so yeah we talked about epstein for the people joining us live i'm not going to circle back to epstein but you can see it in the replay
so i would say that yang has now lost his authenticity it was sort of the only thing good about his campaign it was really good

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his campaign it was really good authenticity is really good and it seemed to indicate some independence of thought some originality um some competence a lot of things we like so yang has always been interesting i don't think he was complete enough to be a politician because he sort of concentrated on his ubi thing but by joining the people who have to call the president a white supremacist because apparently that's the new litmus test so you can't be the democratic candidate unless you call him a white supremacist now a lot of people like donnie deutsch let me just say it donny deutsch if i found that if i heard that donnie deutsch had died in a jail cell i would think the same of him as i think of epstein i'll just let that sit out there for a while if donnie deutsch died in a jail cell he's not in jail i

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died in a jail cell he's not in jail i don't think he's committed any crimes that i know hypothetically if he died in the jail cell in whatever whatever way suicide or murder i wouldn't feel bad because in my mind donnie deutsch and epstein are the same guy
guy in my mind see what i'm doing here i'm doing what donnie deutsch is doing donnie deutsch said hey if you support the president you must be a white supremacist that's probably
i would say i'm not going to say it's worse than serial pedophilia because we consider that the worst of the worst that's sort of a 10 and a 10 right serial pedophilia on the badness range it's a 10 and a 10. donnie deutsch going on television and consistently saying that people who voted for trump are white supremacists is a 10 it's a 10 and a 10. and so

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is a 10 it's a 10 and a 10. and so my complete lack of sympathy for epstein dying in his jail cell i would share because i think what donnie deutsch is doing is on the same level of pure evil now some people are going to say hey he's not pure evil it's just what he believes he would like to help the country etc maybe i suppose you know everybody who's a monster has a reason if you talk to epstein do you think you'd say yeah you got me if you were alive do you think he'd say yeah you got me i'm a monster i'm a monster do you think epstein would have said that no he would have said well i was giving these girls money they didn't seem to mind everybody wins that's what he would have said right epstein would not have said yeah i'm a monster you got me likewise donnie deutsch has a perfectly good explanation for why he's trying to create a race war in the united states

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united states because he thinks it's true now if you ask donnie deutsch do you believe in the uh the fine people hoax what do you think he'd say you say he believes it he is either suffering from tds or lying we can't tell because we can't read his mind but in terms of the badness of what he's doing in public and regular on a regular basis uh labeling how you know 60 million people as white supremacists is just about as bad as you can get 10 out of 10. now i don't want anything bad to happen to donnie deutsch in the same way that i don't want anything bad happen to anybody but i'm just saying that on a moral uh level he is similar to epstein so um let's talk about some other stuff i saw a story on cnn i was watching the fake news on cnn and i forget the details but there's some i guess there's a mine that had been closed for

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mine that had been closed for environmental reasons and trump met with the ceo and now the mine is going to be opened and there's a risk to 80 miles of river that could be you know polluted and all the while you know all the fish could die or whatever so the cnn was presenting it as an econo as a environmental catastrophe and that there was a reason it was closed in the first place and now the trump administration is opening it just for commerce and money and all the wrong reasons and it's going to destroy the environment so i'm watching this news and i'm saying to myself wow if any of that's true that's pretty bad i i wouldn't support the administration polluting 80 miles of river to open a mine i'm sure we don't need the mine that much can't be that many jobs that's an environmental disaster so i was waiting for the other side of the story yeah pebbled mine that's right pebble

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yeah pebbled mine that's right pebble mine it's called um and the other side of the story i thought was gonna look something like this it never happened so i don't know but i thought the other side of the story was going to be the company figured out a way to not pollute they have some new technology they're going to do something differently and maybe they promised the the government that they would use their new technology and they would watch the river and if and if their new technology didn't work they could detect it pretty quickly and then they would you know shut things off because it didn't work so you know you could do a little bit of pollution and say oh we thought there would be none but there's a little bit stop everything so i was waiting for that side of the story i don't know that it was a sound like that but it feels like it would have been something along those lines don't you think do you think that when the president met with the ceo the ceo said to the president hey you know we were polluting like crazy

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know we were polluting like crazy we'd like to do that again do you mind if we pollute like crazy we can create a thousand jobs or whatever the number is do you think the president said huh pollutes like crazy destroys 80 miles of river for sure or at least a big risk but a thousand jobs out of 360 million people totally i'm in i'm down let's open that thing do you think it went down like that because that's sort of what cnn suggests it's the fakest of news now to be clear if that's what actually happened i don't support that i think you'd have to reject that pretty strongly but i don't know that it happened i don't know what happened because the reporting was only one side of a story that has two sides what good was that all right um
i'm amused by this litmus test who was it was i forget who it was was

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who was it was i forget who it was was it biden people were yelling onto the stage that he has to who is the candidate who was forced to answer the question whether president trump was an actual white supremacist uh let me back up a little bit here i'm amused that that's a litmus test and they're all going to have to answer that question because it should be the question that disqualifies you oh is it delaney it was the lady so delaney i guess is the one who was resisting the longest and using that kind of language delaney has a big problem which is his face he just doesn't have leadership face there's something goofy about his face as far as i can tell he's very talented and reasonable so if you could take delaney's set of talents and move them to a better face you might have something now i would i would hate to i would hate to be the guy who says we should judge people by their looks

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should judge people by their looks because i don't think we should we we don't we don't elect handsome or beautiful presidents we generally don't right they're not good looking in general they tend to be older et cetera some are better than others obama was good looking bill clinton was good-looking-ish kennedy was good-looking but we don't elect him for that reason that said it certainly matters the the look has to be at least presidential and serious and all that or where the voters have a problem with it yeah goofy looking um i think that can work in business as long as you're performing but for politics that's tough and and i don't mean to be cruel uh he probably knows he's goofy looking
he probably knows it um and i say that as someone who's not attractive so when somebody like me says that someone else is not attractive i'm talking about my people

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talking about my people my people are the attractive men in the world so if i talk if i say another man is unattractive i'm talking about my people so keep it in context um the dumbest thing that the country is doing is considering a civil trade war literally a trade war in which democrats will not buy from any company that has a republican connection and vice versa can you think of a worse idea can you think of any worse idea than a domestic trade war and we're actually we're actually heading in that direction now i don't believe in the slippery slope so i don't believe that it's actually going to go to that but we are perilously close to it and i thought to myself well thank you nancy for saying that and i thought to myself is there anybody in the country who's smart enough to know that you probably can win a trade war

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that you probably can win a trade war with another country but you really can't win one if it's internal because it's your country if one side wins and one side loses is still all the same country there's no way that can be good as a civil war but i do think there's a way that you could convince another country to give you a better trade deal a little bit of trade war might uh get you there
somebody says such a moronic statement well must be a democrat i'll get a block carla i don't know who you're talking about but on this periscope and in the world of scott if you make a comment that is just a personal comment about somebody i'm not interested so you can make your personal comments somewhere else but if you talk about policy or ideas or

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but if you talk about policy or ideas or thoughts and that involves personalities that's good now even when i talk about somebody's appearance um again i'm not trying to be unkind it's just an objective fact that people look differently and people react to that um i want to i want to introduce a phrase that i invented yesterday i call it your game path game as in a video game game path and it it involves the idea that we're a simulation and not an original species most of you know the idea that it's very unlikely well let me back up the simulation theory says that we will eventually reach a point where we can create computer simulations of people who believe they are people and have full lives within computer software but they will believe they're humans they'll look like humans they'll act like humans they'll believe they have free will everything else and that it's very unlikely that

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and that it's very unlikely that that we're a real species because we know that once you can do that once probably we'll do it a bunch of times and there could be a billion to one more artificial realities than there are original species if there are any original species at all so simulation theory says we could be real we could have evolved or god could have put us there or whatever your belief is we could be exactly what you see and we're real maybe but it's a trillion to one against it so i take the odds of a trillion to one and say okay we're almost certainly a simulation if we were a simulation how would you build it if you were the programmer if you were the programmer and you were building this simulation i think you would give some characters special something some of your characters would be background characters or npcs they're not really thinking people they're just background

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they're just background others might be real people who put their personalities into an avatar and so you know how you meet some people and they seem extra alive have you noticed that have you ever walked around the corner looked in somebody's eyes that you'd never met before and knew they were important to your life i've had that experience most of you have usually you end up marrying that person um but there are some people who are just extra present so imagine that it's a simulation some of the characters are based on real people or managed by real people or whatever and some are just background so that's the theory so what i'm introducing is what i call the game path and it under and it assumes that each of us have a challenge within the game that is the simulation and the reason i introduce this is have you noticed that there's some problems that you have in your life that repeat beyond what could possibly

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that repeat beyond what could possibly be a coincidence have you noticed that that some of you will get the same type of problem one after another but entire other fields of types of problems you won't get at all i'll give you an example um i've only been to i've been south of the border a few times i'm i'm in mexico right now getting ready to leave the last time i was in central america was costa rica and it was the worst trip of my life because on the last day before i had to fly
fly i got a severe bacterial infection or stomach flu or something and i had to i had to fly back home sicker than i've ever been sick and so when i knew i was going to come here i'm in cabo i said to myself i really want to go there's only one thing i fear which is getting a stomach

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thing i fear which is getting a stomach flu
flu the day before i travel it's the only thing i'm worried about it's the only thing today i'm traveling yesterday i had a severe stomach ache yeah i don't know if it was montezuma's revenge or food poisoning or what it was but i was really sick yesterday and i woke up this morning feeling a little bit better i think i can travel but one of the odds now when you're when you're at a resort all the the water is purified and you don't you don't really have access to anything that should give you a stomach flu from drinking the water it's all very protected little enclave we never left we never left the you know confines of the
the of the purified water and it's mostly bottled water etc um yeah somebody says oh my god you created it maybe i may have manifested it by thinking it too much because what are the chances that the

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because what are the chances that the only thing i was worried about was exactly what happened what are the odds the only thing i was worried about i wasn't worried about getting mugged i wasn't worried about the airplane going down i wasn't worried about anything just that one thing and then it happened it happened on the day that i didn't want it to happen if it happened on the first day i'd say well sometimes you get sick when you travel but i'm glad it was the first day yeah somebody said oh michelle's saying my husband got montezuma's revenge in cabo well montezuma got me good um so there's that but i want i want you to keep this in mind when you observe your life do you see that there are certain sets of circumstances that just over and over and over happen to you beyond what chance would suggest maybe you have a game path maybe there's a specific challenge that your simulation that you elected or whoever programmed it elected for your

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whoever programmed it elected for your character so maybe it's not a coincidence but also maybe you're manifesting so lots of possibilities i just want to throw that out there now one of the things i'd like to suggest is um i believe that i am unusually free from let's say judgmental judgmentalism or bigotry because i believe in the simulation and because i don't believe in free will i think free will is an illusion so when i see people doing things that i wouldn't do and i don't like it i don't say i hate that person you're a piece of crap i think well i wouldn't do that i'm glad i'm not in that situation i'm glad my brain is not organized in a way that i would have to do that thing this other person is doing so i tend not to judge people and it gets me in trouble because i don't even judge you know that donnie deutsch and epstein what i've said is i don't have any empathy for them

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empathy for them because objectively speaking what they've done is you know horrible for the world in a very similar way
way but i don't judge it because i think that they are also victims of having no free will they believe what they believe they think they're right and they don't know the difference just like the rest of us we're all just trying to get by so i also have a have a thought that bigotry at least ethnic both ethnic i guess both ethnic and gender bigotry don't have the same utility that they used to have if you imagine hundreds of years in the past you didn't have any way to know much about another person so if somebody from another ethnicity walked up to you you'd say i don't have any way to check you out the one and only thing i know is what kind of person you are and i've got some you know some bias about people who look like you so i'm going to apply that just for safety just to be cautious but now we live in a

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just to be cautious but now we live in a world where all you need is somebody's name and you can check their entire social media history you can check on people very at a detailed level so you don't need prejudice anymore you don't need bigotry about individuals because i have a life straw with me but i didn't use it for everything um so you don't need bigotry the way you maybe felt you needed it hundreds of years ago because bigotry was a terrible tool for judging any individual it was very ineffective but it was the best you had now we have every other means of finding out about people we can you know hire them for on trial bases that it doesn't work out you make a change so we have all kinds of different mechanisms now where we can judge individuals we just don't need to judge groups of people anymore what would be an exception to that rule

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what would be an exception to that rule immigration from countries that do not have good records that would be an exception in that case um and you saw that with the muslim ban the administration's decision it was to use
bigotry is that the right word certainly they were using pattern recognition and some common sense to say here's a group of countries that we don't know what we're getting because they don't have good records we might not even be getting the the citizen that we think we're getting you know it might be a fake person you just don't know so in the cases that are fortunately rare where you can't determine anything about an individual for sure
then some gross very unpleasant decisions at least have utility you may still because you're a good person say i'd i'd rather take a little risk than to treat people like that that

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than to treat people like that that wouldn't be unreasonable i think reasonable people can disagree on that but let's just say that for most situations and most people bigotry doesn't really it's just outdated because you can know as much as you want about an individual that's all you care about right when you're hiring somebody you're not hiring all the people who look like them you're just hiring that person when you're marrying somebody you're not marrying all the people who look like that you're just marrying that one person so if you know about that one person you're all set and um i think that would be a useful way to see the world
somebody says somebody on here says that third world countries have low iq levels irrelevant that's my point would it matter to you that the average of any group no matter what group you're talking about has higher or lower iq it wouldn't matter

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matter because you're looking at individuals and we do have the ability to to judge whether individuals are the the ones we want in the country that they go to college if we have merit based immigration we could just look at their record so we wouldn't have to you wouldn't have to guess about an individual based on the people who look like them that's just antiquated we have better tools now don't need to do it um somebody says yes because low iq equates to more violence well you just missed everything i just said if you know about individuals then you can make decisions about individuals that's what the president wants to do but we don't live in a world where you have to make decisions based on groups just it's antiquated we have better tools so bigotry lost its utility and if you still think it has utility that's sort of on you

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that's sort of on you you know that's sort of on you with the exception of countries that don't have records and you can't tell who the person is that's that's the special case all right
uh so i posted a blog post today actual writing i don't know how many blog posts i'm gonna write i just did a few while i'm traveling uh this one is on how we're using word thinking to make decisions somebody says come on scott was there a point there come on scott what's that mean
[Music] um what countries don't have records countries such as syria don't have uh reliable records a lot of stuff that got destroyed in war so there aren't that many of them but they exist

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can i deprogram donnie deutsch i doubt it
it because he's he's committed himself in public to a position and once people commit in in public it's pretty hard to change their minds
um yeah it looks like the traffic's pretty high today
has there been someone somebody's asking has there been someone in the past that does what you do or are you unique scott well everybody's unique i i'm not sure exactly that what that question means if you mean is there anybody who has intentionally tried to present a rational position of the world surely such people must exist i can't think of one
why did rome fall immigration somebody says is that why rome fell

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so have you noticed um this is the dog that doesn't bark so it's it's been national news that um the find people hoax is raging again it's been in a whole bunch of publications and all the talk you've seen about it all the news coverage do you notice something missing what is missing from all the conversation about the fine people hoax what's missing me i have i am for most of the coverage i think except for the coverage on the right perhaps but when the left talks about the hoax they don't put me in the story now think about how much trouble i've caused on the fine people oaks i i'm one of the three horsemen right with steve cortez and and uh joel pollock the three of us have been out front debunking this hoax

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out front debunking this hoax so if you're telling a story about you know how this situation happened how do you leave me out of the story how do you not invite me on your show to talk about it i'll tell you how you look at what i wrote and you say to yourself oh crap we can't have him on the show
but i'm going to say something that's the most immodest thing you've ever heard are you ready i think you know me well enough by this point that it won't bother you your opinion of me won't change even though this is going to be unpleasant get ready for it go gird your loins whatever that means gird your loins why is that even the same here's what i'm going to say i don't think there's anybody more persuasive than i am certainly not on this topic now there are more persuasive politicians trump would be one but if you're just having a conversation

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having a conversation and you're not trying to be the leader which is a different type of persuasion if you're just talking about a topic you can't get much more persuasive than i am i think there's nobody who is willing to take the chance of putting me on the air because i would obliterate the fine people hoax at least for some people most people don't change their mind regardless of the evidence but i i don't think it's a coincidence that nobody wants to put me on the air and that nobody wants to interview me do you remember how many people wrote about me and contacted me when i had my little uh what do you what do you want to call it my little uh public scandal a few weeks ago
ago all of them like there was press all over the place that wanted to interview me tried to reach me tried to get a quote and it's because i'm a minor celebrity and i said something provocative in public on a political

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provocative in public on a political topic it was political just because it was in the news that's the only reason and because people associate me with saying good things about trump so the politics was sort of accidentally associated with with uh my thing
but you know that in my entire you know famous life since i've been you know known to the public anytime i say something provocative my phone starts ringing because people want to write that story about the minor celebrity who says things that other people don't think is true it's the story that news organizations like better than all other stories did they contact me none zero zero on the left so i'm going to say that there was no media on the left who wanted to talk to me saying in public that one of the primary beliefs in this country isn't true and it's easy to prove think about that nobody doesn't that tell you

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nobody doesn't that tell you that they know it's not true doesn't it do you think that cnn believes that they could have me on the air and that wouldn't go poorly for them they know it would go poorly by the way i'm not sure if i would say yes to any of those offers because the problem with actually i know i wouldn't say yes so if a tv network said i'd like to have you on you know our segment is four minutes to talk about your views i wouldn't accept that because in those contexts um the game is to run out the clock and then end with something that doesn't change anything so if i were to be interviewed on cnn it would look like this scott tell us what you think uh let me interrupt you and by the time i was done i would have gotten 60 of my message out they would wrap it up with well we're not convinced and then go on so being on a time limited format would be useless you can't really

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format would be useless you can't really determine anything that way likewise agreeing to an interview in which somebody else paraphrases what i've said has no chance of being persuasive because the paraphraser would remove the persuasion because they don't want it to be persuasive so i can't do a standard interview on this the only way i can do it is by writing my own blog doing my own content in whatever length it takes to tell the story and then hope that that gets some play all right that's about all i have to say about um today the joe rogan podcast yeah joe rogan would be one of the few places that that any idea would get a fair hearing think about that if i said to you what what media outlet is likely to give somebody a fair hearing for let's say a non-standard opinion not

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let's say a non-standard opinion not many joe rogan is one of them and then name the second one uh right who's the other one uh well there are lots of podcasts that that could do it plenty of podcasts but you don't know of them they they tend to be more obscure
all right oh candace yeah candace has a long-form show but she's also associated with the political right and that's the group that doesn't need to be convinced yeah oh dave rubin this is a good example dave rubin but now he's associated with the political right whether he likes it or not so you're right so if you were thinking of who could actually tell the story i would say dave rubin and joe rogan would be the top of the list of people who could get that out there all right any questions
yeah you know this whole clinton body count thing

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count thing yeah i would say you know i did the sam harris show and i did not think that i could be persuasive on that because the the topic seemed to jump around a little bit yet there's a certain amount of jumping around you have to do for the benefit of the audience to keep it interesting so even in the long form it's hard to make a point if other people are talking um
breaking news russian skilled epstein so think about this what are the biggest beliefs that the people on the left have held that are the most important beliefs they believed in russia collusion which has been debunked meaning that they still think it happened they believed in the fine people hoax i mean that really is the alpha hoax that makes them believe all the other ones that are just sort of well why'd he use that word the other ones

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why'd he use that word the other ones are so weak that by themselves they wouldn't have much meaning but once you have the fine people hoax it gives people license to say you know when he said infestation even though he was talking about rats i know what he was thinking so if you kill the alpha hoax the fine people hoax the others just lose their power because they're all fueled by the same hoax
then what about climate change what's the biggest hoax about climate change now i'm not the person who's going to tell you that the scientists are wrong i'm not going to tell you that co2 has nothing to do with warming i'm i'm not going to tell you the earth is not getting warmer i'm not a scientist and i don't trust anybody who is on this topic nor can i evaluate their work independently so i'm solidly in the camp of
of sounds important we should pay attention to it but i don't i don't know what to think because i'm not qualified no matter how much effort i put into it

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much effort i put into it i could not and i put a lot of effort into it i spent a year tracking down left and right opinions on this to see if i could form an independent opinion and couldn't because both sides lack credibility and i can't judge them independently so but here's something that i can judge because both sides agree
and i've said this before but it's worth repeating the side that thinks that climate change is
is cataclysmic has estimated that in economic terms it could take 10 off the gdp in what 70 years i think let's say that's true let's say that worst case economic prediction is exactly accurate that's telling us it's no big deal because a 10 reduction in what the gdp would have been in 70 years remember everything doubles every 10 years it's just

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years it's just the way stuff works um so
now let me let me reverse that i was going to talk about something else but let me just say that in 70 years if if at the end point of that 70 years our gdp was 10 less than we thought it could have been you wouldn't even notice so in other words the people who are most concerned about climate change the people most incentive incentivized to give you a scary story have put their best people on the case and come up with the scariest story that it'll be a 10 hit to gdp that we wouldn't even notice because that hit is you know spread over 70 years it's not even like the hit comes on the 70th year which you know maybe would count a little bit the 10 has spread over 70 years it's like a little bit this year a little bit this year you wouldn't notice any of it

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notice any of it and that's that's the horror story so i would say that based on the climate scientists consensus about the economic danger and i think they all buy into those numbers that that's shown as a hoax in terms of not in terms of the science because that part i can't evaluate but a hoax in terms of how bad the problem is in the future now i haven't looked into this myself but i understand that michael moore has come down on the side of green technology being a scam my understanding is that somebody he's closely associated with must have been his director or producer for his earlier films made his own film about green technology he went into it thinking that he was going to show that this is the way to go green green green and discover that it's all a fraud that if you look at say electric cars an electric car

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electric car is a coal is a coal powered car [Laughter] an electric car is a coal powered car because the coal plates coal plants make the electricity the electricity goes into the car it's a coal powered car but the public sees it as green technology now of course if all the other sources of electricity changed well then it wouldn't be a coal powered car but nobody knows how to get there except for nuclear power and that's apparently not on the the green people's list so my understanding is that the film is going to come down hard on on green technology being the way out now combine these two things roger moore who has you know did i say roger moore
um what's his actual name moore michael moore roger was in the title of one of his films so michael moore i don't mean james bond who would be

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i don't mean james bond who would be roger moore but michael moore
is credible he's credible on the left and if he says something that the people on the right like to hear well then he's credible on that side so suddenly you have the most credible person you could imagine who would be believed by both sides which is very rare um and but let me let me pause to give michael moore a compliment i would say that i disagree with roger moore as much as i agree with him so i'm not on his team but i'm not against everything he says it must be called out that he saw trump coming before anybody on the left did he he understood the population he understood the voters and he understood trump as a showman because michael moore is a showman i think he got trump the way other people didn't um and so he uh and so i give him credit and if it's true i'm still waiting for some verification but if it's true that michael moore has looked at the the

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that michael moore has looked at the the data and made a u-turn on green energy i think you have to respect that you gotta respect that so uh so here's some respect for michael moore that you probably didn't expect from me um now is that enough if you take michael moore's debunking of the the green energy market if you add that to the fact that the people who are promoting um climate change risk their own numbers disprove their major theme that is cataclysmic indeed their own numbers show we wouldn't even notice is that enough to say that climate change is a hoax even if it's true that co2 is causing warming and even if it's true we wish it weren't i think yes i think yes so it seems to me that the three pillars of the republican

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the three pillars of the republican not the republicans the democrats belief if they came down to three hoaxes there's the russia collusion hoax the fine people hoax that says we have a white supremacist president and then the climate change hoax and here again i'm only talking about the economic predictions being the hoax part because their own numbers show that it's no big deal you can confirm that by the way go go look at the united nations most recent dependable numbers according to them and they'll tell you it's a 10 hit in 70 years literally wouldn't notice now there will be a lot of changes over 70 years but change is inevitable so think about that is there anything like that on the republican side there might be yeah maybe maybe if i thought about it for a few minutes i could come up with you know the three big hoaxes that drive the uh drive the republican party well actually

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drive the republican party well actually it isn't too hard one of the one of the hoaxes is that
i think one of the hosts is that there's no way we can get to universal health care i don't think that's true i think it's true that nobody has like the plan that could work but we're a pretty resourceful place you know if you tell me here's the challenge you know have universal health care for everybody in the united states or insurance anyway could we get there i think we could i don't think we can get there just by raising taxes but i think we could get there so uh i don't know how long it would take i mean it might take 20 years but i think we could get there all right um how can we form public policy with so many hoaxes good question well the way we do it is poorly that's what we've seen so far and that's why i always suggest until you're sick of hearing it

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i suggest that we always favor plans that we can test if you can test it in a small way that doesn't hurt too much then that's a good plan a good plan is when you can test small anything else is risky might turn out your way might not turn out your way but if you can't test this small it's risky um have you ever seen a child scream in terror when someone tries to remove a band-aid okay i don't i don't know the context of that
oh yeah uh i heard rush limbaugh talking about uh joel pollock uh challenging biden in iowa and um it's it's good that rush is on the same page now i spent i can tell you that for most of my early life

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of my early life uh rush limbaugh seemed to sort of republican and he wasn't really my cup of tea but i still listen to his show a lot because he's really good at what he does you know rush limbaugh no matter what you think of his politics and you know i understand half the country despises his politics and maybe that makes him dislike him too but you can't you can't uh avoid the fact that man he's good at what he does same with hannity hannity you you can dislike him all you want but man is he good at what he does they both have these serious talent stacks that just that just work perfectly all right um
he's a good speaker you don't watch hannity do you somebody asked well um i watch all of the
the i watch all of the major news programs on the major

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on the major networks cnn and fox news so i watch them all rush considers himself an entertainer yeah and that's that's i i'm glad you said that because that was the first time i understood who rush was because i think years ago people were saying hey you're so good why don't you run for office because i think he could have won don't you think if if rush limbaugh had run for office maybe not now but there was probably a time he could have run for office he probably would have won he was good but he said no i'm not a politician i'm an entertainer and then i understood it all he's an entertainer well of course i knew that but
but but knowing that he that he labeled himself an entertainer kind of put it in a nice package he's a great entertainer even if you don't like his content even if you don't like his political opinions he's a great entertainer all right did i see kamala's new bus

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all right did i see kamala's new bus i think that's a fake video there's a there's a video of kamala coming out of some office and getting all excited and then it switches to a picture of a police bus and you know it suggests that it's her new bus with like police logos on it i think it's just a fake video i would not assume that was real i'm sure it's a fake video um
all right i think that's about all we got and i'm gonna talk to you tomorrow have a great day