Episode 605 Scott Adams: Talking About the R-Word That Gets me Demonetized by YouTube, Iran

Date: 2019-07-22 | Duration: 36:52

Topics

Georgia State lawmaker and a Cuban Dem…meet in a supermarket LESS racism under Trump, racism sharply declined under Trump Iran’s Ex-President Ahmadinejad’s NYT interview He flatters President Trump, frames the situation correctly Geraldo Rivera’s tweet on President Trump’s “go back” statement My reply tweet, literal free money

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bum bum ba boom ba ba ba bababa ba hey everybody come on in here because it's time for a coffee with Scott Adams it's like I'm an auctioneer and now I'm talking like an auctioneer for no reason I just started talking this way and I don't know why sold to you for $10 yes you know what time it is it's the best time I've been hearing from people that they're using this time for their exercise I call that a good system the way the system works is that you make sure you've got this recorded or your your doing your exercise live I'm talking to you all of you people who are exercising right now good job you've got a good system you're rewarding yourself with the excellent entertainment value that is this periscope or YouTube depending on whether you're listening to it and that's a good system because you can train yourself like a dog train yourself like a dog to get a treat when you do the right stuff and those of you who read my book hadn't failed almost everything and still win big or if you

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everything and still win big or if you heard me talking about it on periscope you know but if you give yourself a little downtime after you exercise maybe have a protein shake if you like that sort of thing cup of coffee or whatever maybe if you listen to something you really enjoy whether it be music or podcasts or whatever you can turn your exercise into a wonderful thing this is right Pablo and a lot of people are discovering that right now now I think you need the simultaneous up those of you exercising may need to take a sip of your water bottles but it's all the same it's all wonderful and how do you do the simultaneous if that's why you're asking it's easy all you need is a cover of Margaret lasses Dinah tell us a tankard could be a thermos maybe it lasts possibly a canteen if you are serving your country or camping I suppose could be a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee and

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your favorite liquid I like coffee and join me now for the unparalleled pleasure that don't the end of the day the cycle Davey is up here he goes oh so good alright my favorite laugh of the day came from a Jack pasaba could tweet and of course you have to be following the news to understand the reference but if he do know the reference this was pretty funny so Jack said Jack Passat Mike said this morning in a tweet good morning to everyone except people who spread race hoaxes justify abusing supermarket Express Lanes it probably reads better when you're reading it that it does when you hear down loud the humor works like that there there's some things that are funny when they're said out loud and there's some things that are funny when you read them some of it has to do with timing because you can read faster than you can listen you know people talk slower than you could read I think this one is

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you could read I think this one is funnier when you read it because it catches you off-guard anyway the story evolve you also you've all seen the story by now right there was an african-american or there is an african-american lawmaker in Georgia in other words a state politician who claims that a person behind her in line was a trump supporter a white guy and told her to go back where she came from or something worse to that effect so she was giving a press press conference on this topic and the alleged white Trump supporter showed up and Boop's he is not a trump supporter he's a Democrat anti Trump ER and he's Cuban so he doesn't refer to himself as white either and he never said the things or anything like it
it that the Georgia lawmaker accused him of

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what he did do however I would call not exactly polite behavior either so his story is that the Georgia law maker what took 15 items or so into the line there was the Express line of the supermarket of 10 items or less now he claimed that the that there were two other lines open with no lines and yet he stood behind her in line while there are two other lines were nobody there he stood behind her anyway and then after he stood in line for the incredible inconvenience of five extra items being scanned while he had to wait he left the store thought about it got so mad he wanted to come back in the store and berate the woman for rudely bringing fifteen items into the line they should have been ten or more so somebody's saying she had at least twenty items okay

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okay maybe he had that he had to wait this much longer beep beep beep beep beep are you happy are we all on the same page now he had to wait a terribly long time for all of that scanning so was she wrong to be in that line well probably have I ever been in that line accidentally with too many items yeah yeah I've been in that line with too many items have I ever done it intentionally no I've never done it intentionally but I've been in that line with too many items it's happened and what did they do they scared you anyway because it's too hard to send you to another line and why would they right but here's the thing the guy who complained about her said there were two lines that he could use with nobody waiting why was he complaining when they were to

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why was he complaining when they were to open Oh check out things either one of them could have used them I mean I get it this you slightly broke a law not a law but a rule slightly yeah it wasn't exactly the crime of the century and certainly not one that I'm going to come back and complain about so here's my final judgment on this there are no winners it's just a terrible sad state of affairs for this country but my ruling is this is a tape it's a taint I probably need to explain that my ruling on the supermarket situation is taint and by that I mean that one of the participants was an and the other one was a dick and since it was sort of a tie between the and the dick I'm gonna call it a taint that's my judgment all right let's talk about a study that I would not take as

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about a study that I would not take as necessarily the most reliable study of all time but there is evidence from a study that that racism specifically anti-black prejudice has sharply declined under the trump administration and that there were not sharp declines under the Obama administration sort of the opposite of what some people imagined would happen what do you think about that well it matches it matches my expectations it matches my observation as well you've heard me say publicly a number of times that my guess is that if you turned off the television and you didn't watch what all the Talking Heads were saying you just lived your life you would say to yourself huh I've been living my life not watching TV and it seems to me the racism is just less

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seems to me the racism is just less every year and that these past few years are no exceptions there's just less of it everywhere that's what I see that's my actual observation but you can't you can't trust the you know single person's observation and so now we have at least one survey to suggest that racism sharply declined after Trump why is that why is that well well they were first of all keep in mind they were asking mostly white people what they thought about black people they weren't asking about racism in every direction in every way I would guess the racism of black people against white people is properly sharply up wouldn't you now I understand the political correctness of what I just said is out of whack meaning that there's a popular feeling that you cannot be a racist if you're a black person you can't be a racist against

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person you can't be a racist against white people in the United States that doesn't work by definition I get the argument you don't need to correct me on it but I'm gonna say that as long as there's a bad feeling of any ethnicity against another what you want to call it is fine with me I'm gonna call it racism but you can call it something else and I'm not going to argue with you about it it's just our personal use of words and I would imagine that there's a completely obvious reason when there's a african-american president white people probably feel a little bit of threatened and maybe you react as such when you replace that african-american president with a president Trump it wouldn't surprise me if white voters say okay well things are in their view not looking like there's any problem now like it feels like they're back to normal in some way whatever they think normal is and so they worry less and it

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normal is and so they worry less and it might just ramp down their bad feelings so I would not be surprised that you would see this pattern every time you had the presidency change some G either change gender or race I would for example imagine that if a woman becomes president let's say after Trump I would imagine that misogyny or you might expect more misogyny not less because men would feel somehow put-upon because there was a woman in office not all men of course but you know enough to to maybe see it in the survey so while I believe that racism is declining if you define it as how white people are thinking about black people that probably has to do with just the ethnicity of the presidency and probably you're seeing the roles reversed there's probably a little more bad feeling from blacks against whites and ironically

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blacks against whites and ironically substantially if this survey is correct a substantially improved feeling about what how white people feel about black people now why would that be true well here are a few reasons what if and I'm just gonna put this out here what if Trump supporters believe what Trump says I'm just gonna put that out there what if people who support Trump believe him when he says essentially I love everybody in this country I love African Americans I love you know Hispanics I love women I love everybody what if Trump supporters actually buy it and they say oh our leader loves everybody who's in this country but he's telling us that our threat if you will is people who are not legal citizens so we accept that that the that the issue here is immigration it's not ethnicity

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here is immigration it's not ethnicity the most common thing you will hear from Trump supporters is our president says it's not about race and we believe him what if Trump supporters believe what he says because remember the folks on the Left the anti Trump errs were already non racist in their view and probably would answer surveys in a way that would suggest they are non racist so they're not really part of whatever the changes whatever change happened almost certainly was within Trump supporters because they're the ones you imagine could have been the grouped as the most racist as a percentage and still a small percentage but Mia they might have the most so that's my take on this so I think we're in the best place we've ever been as a country in terms of race and getting along and gender in every

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and getting along and gender in every way in every single way I think in the real world things got better I really think so and you wouldn't know that from reading the headlines all right let's talk about Iran I've been telling you I've said this before and I said it about North Korea that being on the brink of war looks exactly like being on the brink of peace and there's a reason for that they should look exactly the same because whether you're getting ready to go for go to war or you're simply ramping up your negotiating leverage by looking tougher and doing provocative things that you can later give up you should those two things should look very similar brink of war looks like bring to peace and you saw that North Korea the fire and fury stuff happened right before we started talking and I've said that the small provocations that we're seeing in the

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provocations that we're seeing in the Gulf look far more like they're setting the table for negotiating meaning that they're creating a problem that they're saying hey if you negotiate with us and we get some stuff we want we Iran might be able to you know give up on this problem cause so they've created an asset to give up but here's an interesting story that says that apparently New York Times was interviewing former iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and this is why I'm a dinner judge said and this is new you just recently said this he said mr. Trump is a man of action it's not an insult right that's a compliment he's a man of action where's this going and then I'm gonna do Chad I'm a dating a jawed said in the lengthy telephone interview with The New York Times quote he is a businessman and therefore he was capable of calculating

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capable of calculating benefits and making a decision keywords are I'm gonna get back to that we say to him let's calculate the long-term cost benefit of our two nations and not be short-sighted who does he sound like who's the person will say a person in the public realm who Ahmadinejad sounds most like I'm looking here your your comments yeah me now some of you are saying Trump and some of you are saying me and it's the same answer same answer right what I like about Trump and I say it all the time is he has a uniquely I'd say gifted ability to assess the risk management situation the reason he's president when everybody else thought he would be self-immolating one time after

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would be self-immolating one time after another it's like oh that tweet will kill you well okay that worked out oh don't do that policy that's good okay that worked out don't say that thing in public okay that worked out too how many times do you need to see the president do exactly what all the experts say he should not do and it works out he can see a risk management situation I call it free money yeah if he sees free money sitting on the table he says hey is that some free money there anybody want this nobody nobody okay I'll take it so he's so good at risk management that he can pick up free money that other people thought was expensive it was free and when you hear Ahmadinejad talk in completely non religious terms there's no religion in these statements none he's talking about cost-benefit analysis he's talking about Trump being a man of action he's

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Trump being a man of action he's complimenting the president's cost-benefit analysis and he's saying that they should do the long term cost benefit of our two nations and not be short sighted now of course you have to be careful is Ahmadinejad still in the inner circle you know when he talks can you say well that probably represents a lot of opinions in Iran don't know don't know it's hard to tell from here but given that he's an ex-president and that he said this to the New York Times apparently without a fear if Ahmadinejad had said something to the New York Times this public and and he thought the Ayatollah would disagree with it that would be pretty risky right and given that Ahmadinejad is literally talking about risk management I don't really think that he's got bad risk

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really think that he's got bad risk management himself in other words he probably wouldn't be saying this in public if he thought the Ayatollah was gonna slap him down for it so he may not have permission per se but I would guess that in his own calculation it's at least compatible enough or close enough to compatible with what the Ayatollah is thinking that he's not going to go to prison for it you know there's not going to be a penalty this is the kind of talk you hear from this kind of leader in other words somebody who's not currently in control by has some moral authority in terms of the the country's culture and opinion hearing him talk in these terms cost-benefit risk management businessman man of action that's everything you want that is a hundred percent of where you want their heads to be it's also a 100 percent where I want our heads to be

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percent where I want our heads to be that's the middle ground the middle ground is risk management that's the non-religious middle ground if we keep talking about who should be in Israel and you know whose God is right and blah blah blah you can't really get there because we have such and opinions on the you know the philosophical stuff but I'm a dinner jawed is saying pretty clearly let's just take you that into that conversation let's have a conversation about costs benefits if you're having that conversation you're heading toward peace the real kind not not the crazy kind not the temporary kind but the real kind and when I hear somebody as prominent as I'm a dinner shot even though he's out of office I say something so clear and so productive and so sort of different than what we've been hearing up to this point

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what we've been hearing up to this point here more provocative stuff a hundred percent of what we're seeing out of Iran tells me that they want peace and they really want it and we know we want it so you have two countries that want the same thing now I remember what I told you that we were thinking small when we're talking about how to solve our immediate problems like our immediate problem is something like maybe we could get inspections on the nuclear program that's thinking small that's a that's a goal way of thinking the big picture the system is that you create a long term strategy to become allies it is thinking too small to simply avoid war Iran is a very capable country and it's filled with people who are somewhat poised to like America even though the leadership is obviously very anti America at the population the urban population the

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population the urban population the young people it's a very young country and the young people are lean in our direction a lot of them you know that I would say I think the majority are leaving Western so it is small thinking to say how do we avoid nuclear war it's a good thing to avoid of course but in terms of how to how to frame the conversation Ahmadinejad just did it for you Ahmadinejad just framed it the right way the
the right frame is a you should be looking in his own words let's calculate the long-term cost benefit of our two nations and not be short-sighted the long-term benefit is that you try to get on the same side might be five years from now could be ten years from now maybe it's twenty years from now it could take a long time for the United States and Iran to see each other as not just people who stopped fighting but

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just people who stopped fighting but flat out flat out allies why is that not the goal why would we ever have a weak goal let's just not have a nuclear war too small that is not Trump like thinking Trump does not think small he thinks tell me what's the most you could even imagine and I'm gonna ask for that I might have to back it up if I can't get everything I asked for but why I'm day one what I ask for something less than the most I could imagine and the most I can imagine is that someday Iran in the United States are solid allies salad a solid allies like Japan solid allies like Germany you know the one thing that Iran can see is that the United States is perfectly capable of turning the the the most violent enemies into the best friends

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violent enemies into the best friends and that when they do that really good stuff happens really stuff that good stuff happens so I would say if you read the tea leaves we are on the brink of peace I said that about North Korea and of course we have a long way to go but we're North Korea as a situation of how and when and what do we talk about instead of where are we going to launch our nuclear weapons I mean that's a pretty pretty big difference so if we could get around into the productive conversation frame and at least some important leaders are saying let's get there somebody says what about Yemen I think that's all part of the conversation you I I think you have to talk about all the proxy wars you have to talk about the whole thing and you got to you got to get on the other side of that to have a real peace alright what else we got going on here so Geraldo has been I feel sorry for her

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so Geraldo has been I feel sorry for her although I really do because he's a in this just this one way he's obviously had a tremendous life so I don't feel I don't feel sorry for him in general Geraldo's hugely successful and has an amazing amazing life and he's sort of a role model for me I must say Geraldo's kind of a role model for anybody who's my age or older or have it I would still kill it you know every day so here's what Geraldo tweeted so he's dealing with the fact that the president had this obnoxious tweet about you know the squad should go back home and fix everything before coming back and of course it was widely interpreted as being offensive or racist depending on who you are and a Geraldo being is Hispanic the right word for Geraldo I don't know what he self labels but let's go with that for now so it's got to be a tough situation he's

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so it's got to be a tough situation he's a personal friend with the president but he's got real issues with the way the president frames things and communicates in provocative ways so it looks like he's been thinking about it for a little bit and he came up with this very lawyerly way to parse this so this is her elders quote from I guess in last day telling a racial or ethnic minority person to hashtag go back where they came from may not always be de facto racists so here are all those acknowledging that even though the comment may sound provocative that doesn't necessarily mean it's coming from a racist place so it says it may not always be de facto racist but it is presumed racist true and as such it is manifestly obnoxious regardless true those are all true statements so I agree completely with what our old and say which is that you can't tell if somebody's racist just because they sent something provocative there's some other

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something provocative there's some other people say it's racist but because you sort of should've seen it coming it is manifestly obnoxious you didn't really need them manifestly part you could just say it was offensive and so if I were to simplify his lawyer talk he uses some bigger words that he needs to it wasn't necessarily racist but it was certainly offensive and is that productive basically I mean the the essence of the tweet this is my own interpretation not Geraldo's words but the essence of it I interpret as how is this helpful you know it may not have been the worst thing you think it is it may not be racist it may just be the way communicates but how is a health it's not helpful okay here's my response i retweeted with the comment or all domes comment which I agree with by the way so everything he said I would say those are good true

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said I would say those are good true useful ways to to look at this but I asked this I said is quote manifestly obnoxious a feature or a bug Trump may the campaign promise to not be politically correct at least that's what I heard I I heard essentially Trump say he wasn't going to do it that looked like a campaign promise to me so I said Trump made a campaign promise did not be politically correct and we just watched him rebrand the Democratic Party into absurdity with a few offensive tweets that cost him nothing that's that risk management thing again now when I say it costs him nothing you're gonna argue with that but I'll get back to that in a moment and but I think most people on both sides have now agreed that the president has branded the Democrats with the squad's opinions and that's going to take a long time for them to figure out how to navigate that he just screw the entire competition into turmoil and

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competition into turmoil and just urinated all over the entire bunch of them and and may have won the election you know there will never be a way to know for sure but I would argue it's possible that with those three offensive tweets which were as hurled at Geraldo says manifestly obnoxious true they were manifestly obnoxious but he may have actually ended the election right there because it puts such a stain on the Democrats that it's gonna make anybody who is the candidate have to explain those the squad forever though you have to agree with them or say they don't agree with them and both of them are losing paths so now I also said in my comment that it cost him nothing do you agree with that do you agree that it cost him nothing because you probably don't right you probably said no no you're he's just making it worse he is

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you're he's just making it worse he is leading to the racial blah blah blah etc well here's the calculation do you think that CNN was going was do you think they were on the verge of saying he's not a racist and then and then these tweets came out and they said wow it's a good thing we didn't go with our new our new theory that he was never been a racist and we've just been lying for three years we were just going to change our opinion and say now now we've just been saying that I swear to god he's not a racist all that's off oh that wasn't going to happen because the competition let's say the Democrats had been DEFCON 10 from day one meaning there's no place you can go from he's already Hillier that's their starting point their starting point was he's iller do you think that there's new tweets

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do you think that there's new tweets provocative though they are made people hate him more no it was literally free money because they had given given themselves no room to no room for improvement there was also no expense if you don't get that you're not good at risk management what the oh I have the def cons backwards right DEFCON one might be the bad one it was whatever the bad DEFCON is but because the president's critics were so locked in at full Hitler it was free had they been locked in at well he's not full Hitler but he's 99% as bad a cellar well then maybe he would have lost one percent there by giving them something that they could use his confirmation bias but given that they were locked in at a hundred percent no difference it did however create yet another example of

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however create yet another example of how when he talks about you know you should love America he he doesn't really aim at any specific ethnicity etc oh you're asking for people all the people were saying that we lost the sound that you can't hear me now but if any of you can hear me you don't want to complain about the sound on this periscope all right well you're all complaining now this will probably work fine and playback out of youtube so we can listen to it on YouTube and find out but yeah you you don't want to complain about the sound all right if some of you can hear then that's all I care about wow I'm thinking about doing let me run

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wow I'm thinking about doing let me run this idea by you at least any of you can still hear you hear me I'm thinking about doing a an additional number of of these podcasts radio podcast anyway I'm thinking of doing an interview series where right where I can just all fly and do an interview with a split screen and then all I'll just I'll just run them later on YouTube I just want to put that out there if anybody is interested it's kind of difficult to do a split screen on periscope you can see that we're having audio issues here etc but if I do it offline I can record a really clean interview and I'm thinking about starting to do that so I'll have I'll keep doing these periscopes but then on top of that I might do some interviews separately alright there's apparently no problem with the sound at the moment that was all I wanted to talk about and I don't have anything else

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I don't have anything else so I don't know how much you missed in my discussion of this but alright one of you has a really sick sense of humor but it's still funny how many of you think that that the sound problem is being specifically a problem on my end and not a general problem because I did a quick check online and periscope was having a general audio problem that had nothing to do with me and I assume that they may still be having a glitch now and then okay some people want to hear the interview series so I think I will do that I've got some interesting folks lined up I might I was wondering about let me ask you this how many of the Democrat

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you this how many of the Democrat candidates do you think I could get on my on my interview series because I think actually the number of viewers that I get regularly is somewhere in the 50,000 range so for a normal periscope if I get you know 20-some thousand watching it when it's live I'll get another twenty thousand or so watching it on YouTube and then however many Washington podcasts I don't have numbers to that but something like 50,000 people watched my my ordinary shows here so probably if I have that Democrat candidate if it were one of the top 10 or so I could probably get at least 100,000 people just to tune in I wonder if that would be enough to get any of the top Democrats on here so I might try that we'll see I have a question for you is there anybody here who is high up in a title company

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who is high up in a title company company in the United States looking for somebody who already likes what I do who is an executive and a major title company like Chicago title for example if you are DME or or just connect with me on LinkedIn because I have a business question for you not a not a retail question but a larger business issue so please contact me if you have anything like that it has to do with why not there's some products that would be great of great interest to a title company and you would want to know about it first so I will talk to you later