Episode 602 Scott Adams: Dr. Drew Talks About LA Apocalypse, Trump’s Tweet, Iran

Date: 2019-07-19 | Duration: 1:08:20

Topics

Dr. Drew talks about dangerous disease outbreaks in Los Angeles Bubonic plague, typhus, TB, typhoid fever What can be done? @DrDrew Resolution debate: Is Antifa a domestic terrorist organization? “Send her back” chant and President Trump Deeply offended role-playing, and the outrage awards S.E. Cupp wins for her performance Allegations of Omar getting into America illegally Rand Paul MIGHT be the most trustworthy person in politics He seems to be completely free from political wind Negotiating tip for Iran: Become America’s ally President Trump’s tweet take-down of NYT Thomas Friedman Is it possible for people to SAY bad things…and NOT be bad people? Offensive and racist are two different things

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bum-bum-bum bum-bum-bum bomb hey everybody come on in here it's a terrific morning great day but we're gonna talk about some serious stuff in about five minutes we will be joined in a little bit with dr. drew but before that we've got some important stuff to do important stuff to do I say and that important stuff is something I call the simultaneous up which you are about to enjoy with me the entire dopamine hit that you can only get by simultaneously sipping and it's easy it's easy all you need is a cup or a mug or a glass must die in the chalice or a tankard a thermos a flask a canteen a vessel of any kind to hold your liquid I like coffee put it in there lift it to your lips and join me for the unparalleled pleasure of the simultaneous sip oh so good so so

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the simultaneous sip oh so good so so good all right we're gonna bring dr. drew on right now assuming he is ready a little bit earlier than I told you dr. Drew are you there well you have been the it seems like the lone voice talking about the I'm gonna call it an apocalypse happening in Los Angeles give us give us a lowdown and by the way I'm assuming that everybody watching this knows dr. Drew but maybe for anybody who is brand new to I don't know the world you could could you tell them your background medically professionally whatever you think is relevant to this conversation I mean most people know me from my media work I was involved with a radio program called Loveline for about 35 years it was on MTV briefly then I did a program called Celebrity Rehab right treated celebrities and for addiction and

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celebrities and for addiction and presently they said a lot of people know me from feeling called to mom where I post these reunion so professionally I was trained as an internist I started moonlighting in the psychiatric hospital when I was in residency I ended up taking over their Department of Medicine and running that and eventually ran their medical excuse me their addiction services and they did that for about 20 years and all the while that I was working all those years in the psychiatric hospital I ran a big hospital and outpatient medical practice so the part I wanted people to hear is your first law that you're a real a real medical doctor and your experience with mental health and addiction is highly relevant now would tell us give us your explanation of what's happening in LA with the quote homeless population right it was a great book called American psychosis you want to see how we got into this mess but essentially we strangled our sarahott we bailed them out into decided

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sarahott we bailed them out into decided we we're going to try to do something about the prison thing and perhaps go a little too far with these things called Prop 47 prop 57 where we essentially now have made drug use and drug trafficking and stealing lawn crime essentially not irrelevant before the police can't do what they think about them which massively increased that homeless population and we now have to keep thousand people then good god we eat and I practice medicine long enough for Sanger Bell Valley here in Southern California to know that when that happens we will have a typhus outbreak so about 18 months ago I predict the typhus outbreak and I was correct that was the first thing that caught my attention no typhus so that's carried by the rats how do humans get typhus from rats it's it's on the rat it's endemic here in the particularly the valleys of Southern California it comes off the foothills

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California it comes off the foothills it's in the raccoons and possums it gets on to the rats it gets on to our pets the the fleas come off the rats onto our pets and literally defecate on the pets we had our pets get on our hands that gets into us Wow okay and I heard you say that even bubonic plague is the possibility when we reach a certain point that we're nearing tell us about that another book if you wanted to hear about this called black death at the Golden Gate the last outbreak to be banach plague was in Los Angeles because it is also an endemic organism here we have the Rickettsia diseases like Rocky Mountain spotted fever and typhus and we have or Scindia pestis bubonic plague it's in the squirrels gets onto the rats when the rats proliferate it gets onto the human the last outbreak was in the 1920s it was nearly it was only because of some heroic efforts led a group of physicians that it didn't become a massive problem it killed everyone who came in contact with the case zero and

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came in contact with the case zero and we now have somewhere between 12 and 20 million rats in Los Angeles and one of the only cities in the country who is doing has no rodent control plan none and if you look at the picture of the Los Angeles you will see that the homeless encampments are surrounded by dumps the people defecate there they throw their trash there and the rats just lift right there now is this a homeless problem per se yeah this would drive me insane so so I because of my medical concerns I started directing my attention at the homeless thing and and then I started realizing you know this is not if you if you can walk around through close your eyes to this and if you open them and these are my patients and these are people that used to populate the psychiatric hospital they were they were you know they're the drug I some of this is the last way over the opiate epidemic

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opiate epidemic once we my peers oh sure hung over and then Matt suddenly cut them off well when you cut them off they go to the streets they go to heroin the hair would you end up on the streets and that's who we have Wow so we're having a little bit of audio problems cutting in and outs but I think we're we're getting the gist of it so even if we had if we had more housing if suddenly you know housing just appeared out of nowhere and it was free these people wouldn't necessarily even take a free house would they correct that the the the part that is now driving me to my grave I think on this problem is that this is a population that if you walk up to them and say let's go I've got a great place to live the majority and the vast majority will refuse and people don't believe this but when you are chronically mentally ill unless you have treatment it's very difficult to live in

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treatment it's very difficult to live in four walls if you're a drug addict you seek the streets so there's a attachment to this lifestyle that is not being addressed the other thing is not only would they do not want housing housing is not the problem lost anthem we just absorbed in the last year or so about conservatively eight hundred thousand undocumented intervention we're a sanctuary city we welcome them in none of them are on the streets they all found a place to live eight hundred thousand people in a year found a place to live so the government continued to focus on the housing it's a hoax and I can't understand why they're focused on it well it could be because the real problem is unsolvable so no it's easily solvable okay go it just doesn't fit an ideology there's something called the lentement tetris act which is what allows us to treat patients again you've got to read this book called American psychosis the land with Petra Zack came

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psychosis the land with Petra Zack came out in the 1960 and all throughout human history when people had chronic psychiatric illness or addiction the system would determine need for care if somebody met criteria for what was called need for care they were cared for they were put in a hospital and cared for and stabilized and returned to their life in the 1960s there was a guy named Robert Felix that convinced President Kennedy that chronic psychiatric illness didn't really exist that state hospitals caused it we had one flu yes we had these crazy books that were going out that made the idea of putting people in a psychiatric hospital inhumane and they passed something called the Lanterman tetris act which moved need for care to the criteria for care as simply harm to self or other and if you weren't saying I'm gonna kill myself or I'm gonna kill somebody else or I'm the pop you know so severely gravely disabled which there's a definition that we have to work on then we could only hold you for 72 hours

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we could only hold you for 72 hours which doesn't accomplish much of anything so we could solve week we could help people with with harm to self or other than 72 hours but gravely disabled could do nothing so we must change the definition of gravely disabled we must expand conservatorships we must modify prop 47 so we can start to prosecute drug laws again so we can motivate drug addicts to get treatment from the drug addicts as they go one of three places institution which we've taken away prison which we've take it away or they die so we are leaving drug addicts to die would you would you say that the let's say we understood the problem as you've described it as opposed to being fooled into thinking it's a housing problem what what are the biggest obstacles is that funding is it political competence is it that the city's not working with the state which isn't working with the federal system

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isn't working with the federal system where's the problem sort of all of the above in in for instance when you look at the rat problem why they're not addressing that aggressively you can't you shake your head white there's about to be a serious and by the way we were focusing on the rats we have tuberculosis we have other illnesses blossoming in California as well but in terms of the incompetence where is the incompetence when you really boil it down there seems to be something about ideology here well there's a guy named John Morlock a state senator that went up for the state I might you know I sort of woke him up to what was going on and he went up and proposed moderate he brought families up there with homeless offspring with homeless you know loved ones and they begged the state Senate we want our loved ones back there are thousands of us we have homes for them we can give them resources we can do nothing because of the laws please help us modify the gravely disabled the state Senate essentially said to these these these suffering families take a hike who are you to tell these people what to do and

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you to tell these people what to do and think about this guy if these were dementia patients we were talking about nted patients walking out on the street disorganized lack of insight unable to care for themselves and people did not help them there would be outrage and it's the same symptoms caused by a different illnesses Ainge symptoms but we privileged psychiatric symptoms in the law because of ideology there's another crazy 60,000 people are defecating and urinating directly into the gutters every day so we have this sewage of 60,000 people hitting the ocean every day do we do we need a some kind of a czar to take care of it I don't know what it would be it's because it's not a homeless it would be a mental health and and drug addiction are sort of different but overlapping what kind of czar you know does the federal government just need to come in and say look the cities are handling this we

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look the cities are handling this we could have bubonic plague this could go everywhere the federal government has to step in do you think the federal government needs to step in one of the leading personalities and helping the homeless in Los Angeles looked at me two weeks ago and said it's over we can't handle this we need a FEMA style emergency with the Red Cross and the National Guard we need to put up a hundred strong tents that are triage centers we have to deal with this like it emergency that it is so he I'm not quite there yet I'm ready to pull that trigger if we start to see the diseases I think we are going to then we have to know but the FEMA organization is also not equipped to handle drug addiction and mental health so I mean they could they could have tents like crazy and people maybe won't even go in the it but if you have the National Guard you can supersede the state laws and you

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you can supersede the state laws and you can say look this is a national emergency we have to bring you in we have armies of people prepared to help the homeless here we have it's not for lack of resources the taxpayers in this region have set aside billions and billions of dollars it's just they cannot get through their own regulation and their own ideology to deal with this humanitarian catastrophe so it's would you say that this is sort of a president without getting political president Trump is the he likes to cut through regulations he likes his executive orders does he have the power to take care of this if it were a national emergency my understanding is that that's one of the ways to do it I'm hoping you know I'm I'm just trying to slog through the process of making the changes I recommend it to you of you know modifying the proposition of trying to change the way we deal with mental illness and and one of the reasons I'm I'm I think we need to take a little

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I'm I think we need to take a little time with this if you have to build some of them LA County Supervisors are in the process of building jails they can handle mental illness and psychiatric beds which we need many more so there's so there are some things happening but way too slowly to really to stop the bubonic plague it sounds like oh so things are happening that look positive but probably way too small and way too slow to stop the bubonic plague that's what I'm concerned about and if that if that begins to emerge and again it could be imagine of measles gets into this population this is a suboptimal you can get in we have tuberculosis getting in there could be something we had typhoid fever broke down on Los Angeles and a police you know police station contracted it I mean it it's the potential they would the thing that's right I'm obviously you know exercise but this whole thing is this the basic needs of civilization I have a

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needs of civilization I have a government that is ignoring the basic needs of human civilization at the safety healthcare you know it seems to me that the reason that this snuck up on us and I think you know I've had some experience with my stepson and addiction recently I lost him less than a year ago and one of the things I found when he turned 18 is if you're an adult nobody can tell you to do anything and if you want if you want to do things that are dangerous to you and dangerous to others there's absolutely nothing that can be done but on top of that I think that society has reached a point where there are larger number of people's who can't make their way in society in the normal way in other words if it were 200 years ago and somebody was a little slow or you know maybe had a little mental problems they could still work on the farm and and you probably wouldn't you know be any worse

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probably wouldn't you know be any worse off for it but today you know if you've got if you've got an IQ under a certain level you've got a mental problem you've got an addiction problem there is no place in the United States you can go and be productive you're pretty much doomed and it seems to be let me run an idea by you I don't see any way to fix this without creating essentially cities that are just for these types of folks maybe a city for addicted a small city for people with mental health issues because don't you have to get them out of where they are and and put them in one place where you've got the resources and they can't get a hold of drugs and they they can't run away too easily is location going to be as part of the solution or do you think it can be fixed where it is there's 60,000 people in LA it's part of the reason we're in the problem you described is we refused to

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problem you described is we refused to acknowledges acknowledge that we have brains and the brains are different one to the other and the brains get sick sometimes we don't acknowledge that what we can't possibly help people that have these these disabilities and so that's part about not going to a separate place you know look at you know the interesting thought experiment you can do it yourself is think about who the Pioneers were I mean who cube went out on the you know who thought it was a good idea to walk into these dangerous territories and some of the homeless would have been those people which is kind of an interesting thought experiment to do these are people that could be productive of ways if we could stabilize them psychiatrically and and find ways to help them be creatively contribute these down but they're my patient look I've been in the field of addiction treatment if nobody ever got better and nobody ever regained you know a place in the world most of my patients is so it's possible to do so on those that did not still found meaningful existence with their family

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meaningful existence with their family as long as you can get them into the process and you of course have to have the motivation as you said we need to be a little more firm about them how many of the people on the street do you think out of the 60,000 how many of them would cooperate with anything there you know we're really talking about the chronically homeless right the the city keeps talking about people who are transiently homeless which most people get out of homelessness in about three months it's those that are permanently homeless and then thrive that want to be on the streets and your question was how many them would take anything if you offered it that question well how many how many would take help if it meant they had to cooperate with with some authorities go somewhere get off the drugs etc the point help is available right now we have armies of people available but you would have you would have to force them to take the help

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have to force them to take the help right alright so you would you would literally need armed two people to come in and pick them up off the ground and probably restrain them and takes it into a facility would you not armed personnel would be these people who would be enforcing these things called vagrancy laws and drug laws and would say hey you have a choice I'm going to take you to prison or you can go to treatment hmm well is so what do you what do you think is the problem in getting people to understand the magnitude of it is that that people are saying well it's an LA problem and la just doesn't have the competence to solve it is that the people think it's someone else's problem or they don't they're just now seeing it as big as a big a deal as it is it's most of the country I think is not saying it as big a deal as it is those of us who live here are just this sleepy

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of us who live here are just this sleepy city is beginning to wake up to what's going on we could ignore it we could step over it it was in concentrated areas but it is filled everywhere it's all the way into the San Gabriel Valley think about it that is what 25 miles from Skid Row is extended that far and so nobody can ignore it anymore and crime is going off the chart people are dying in the streets is you can't well you can't live in the city and not be aware of it any longer and so it can no longer be ignored what what is the the one thing that we listening can advocate for who whose job is it declared an emergency for example if you think that would be maybe the most important thing is that's the most important thing right now I think it is what I would advise is all of us keep the heat on our city the LA County Board of Supervisors is beginning respond the the LA City this more yesterday just agreed that they need to fight harder against the ACLU and all the organizations that keeps suing them see every time they try to do

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suing them see every time they try to do something the Civil Liberties organizations come in and sue them and say you can't touch these people can't they're belonging this is the problem and Mike my questioned what I keep asking these people that are the do-gooders that have false compassion for people that are dying on the streets is how many must die how many these people must die before you change your philosophy and if they not did and their death soon enough we're gonna leave the community that these infectious diseases spread so how many must die before you change your damn direction so are you saying that the ACLU is literally going to be complicit if things go the way they look like that going that the ACLU will literally be Bhupati bubonic plague in los angeles categorically category Wow so let's let's paint them with that because that you know this is the first time I've heard that I I haven't heard a villain and sometimes you need a villain to to organize you know organized anger and organized action if the ACLU is

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and organized action if the ACLU is behind bubonic plague in Los Angeles I think they need to own that it's like one of the women there's a woman turn II who's one of the leaders I forget her name again I wish I could remember it I had her on my radio program and and I asked her I said you know she was going on about you know housing and and we asked her two questions what what is the price that housing should be that would cause homeless people to go indoors what's that number of course she didn't have that and number two I asked her how many people are gonna die before you stop it how many Wow all right dr. drew give us give us our takeaways what can we do as American citizens is there any place to focus our our energy to help you on this well organizations like the LA Union mission needs your support if they're if you have your line at ca.gov and you

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you have your line at ca.gov and you just find your representative and send an email turn up here supposedly well I have a little bit of audio trouble so give us give us the contact again again if you're in California you just call the California website I think it's ca.gov something like that and on there you can find your representatives when you send them an email I'm the city of Los Angeles keep an eye out for the propositions there will be in 2020 a modification of prop 1 but it's it's gonna be slow and forth yeah but we have to keep at it every day all right well I will add to the voices and try to try to be as persuasive as as possible I very kindly introduced me to Bill Polti and he is we're building a little coalition of people and I think coalition building could yeah we lost

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coalition building could yeah we lost lost the audio there all right dr. Joe I heard you say that bill Polti you're starting to work with them looking at looking at the options and trying to build a little energy around that a coalition we'll hear more about that through through bill or through you in terms of updates on what we're doing okay well so everybody should follow you at give us your Twitter so we can follow you the RDR aw a drug that's easy all right all right thank you so much I'm gonna go on with the rest of my content here and you know we all love you for for doing this it's a tremendous service and the world ocean for this thank you I

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and the world ocean for this thank you I well we will help as much as we can and thank you again thank you dr. Julie all right well I mean that it that really is a a wake-up call is it and it's just so hard to find the the right levers but I think between dr. Drew and if Bill Polti is getting interested in this problem that brings a whole level of capability that probably they've never seen on this problem and I'm talking about a lot of capability so maybe the government isn't the right the right lever maybe maybe it needs to be activists and people with money and people know how to do stuff let's talk about some other stuff because it can't be all all bad news today all right in no particular order did you see that the the Trump campaign is selling plastic straws as a

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is selling plastic straws as a fundraiser so you can buy a plastic straw according to their website so you don't have to use the week paper straws from the Liberals now I like my environment and if people say that plastic straws are bad for it well who might argue I don't know if it's the biggest problem in the world but less plastic seems like a good idea to me that said this is hilarious it is absolutely hilarious that the Trump campaign is selling plastic straws to raise money and apparently successfully it looks like it's doing well I actually thought of getting some but I don't want to get kicked out of any restaurants Ted Cruz and Bill Cassidy have introduced a resolution to call to have Anti Fog designated as a domestic terrorist organization how about that do you think that will be approved do you think that

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that will be approved do you think that Congress could approve the resolution to call an tyfa a domestic terrorist organization well that will be interesting won't it I am 100% behind this anti-fur has to be classified as a dangerous violent organization now I get it
it I get it not every person who calls themselves an tyfa has any intention of being violent I get it I get it that they're fighting against bad people in their minds but unfortunately when you guys show up in a public place the people with the the costumes who were were sort of what I call lifestyle terrorists start hurting people and you either need to get a new organization or stop having public events or live with the fact that that Congress is considering just just think about the

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considering just just think about the fact if you're thinking of joining and you file just think about this you're thinking of joining and Congress is considering a resolution to designate the organization you're considering joining as a domestic terrorist organization think about that before you put it on your resume all right if you join an tyfa and it ever shows up on any social media that you're part of that organization you are now part of an organization which is being seriously debated to be put on the designated as a domestic terrorist organization so things are going to get fun even if they even if that resolution doesn't get approved you don't want that on your resume trust me that's not gonna get you a job a couple of hoaxes to talk about a couple more hoaxes the world is full of

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couple more hoaxes the world is full of hoaxes lately remember that big deal about how Jared got his security clearance and maybe Ivanka too and there was some thought that the people who do security clearances had been leaned on and you know maybe they they sure circuited the process well turns out none of that happened the the people in charge of the security clearances testified and said no there was no pressure normal process just like always total news cycle how long did we hear the news about that all fake news there was literally nothing there here's another one do you remember all that big deal about the president's hush money payments to porn stars and to to the Playmate and was this some kind of a campaign law violation well seems that the federal prosecutors in New York who have ended their investigation of all

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have ended their investigation of all that and they kind of didn't care now I guess they're just not going to pursue it meaning that it's either not illegal or it can't be proven illegal or they don't care or it's too trivial or something but turns out it was never a big problem more fake news all right here's some more fake news the president said that when his rally when people started chanting send her back he said did you notice I started talking quickly to try to you know talk over it and shut it down and other people said we've seen the video mr. president you did not do that you did not do that who's right did the president try to talk quickly and shut down the chants or did he not well you're both right because if you watch the entire video and of course we don't live in a world

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and of course we don't live in a world where people show you the entire video anymore there there was a small chance this started and the President did jump in and continue to his speech and it did slow it down or stop it did you see that if you didn't see that part then you probably saw an edited video that's like all the other edited videos to give you a misleading picture now he started talking but after a while that chienne started up again and at that point he just sort of stopped for a moment and turned around and then got back to his speech but he wasn't encouraging it and he did he did did try to shut it down the first time it happened the second time it happened it was a little big and he just sort of let it go and then didn't really acknowledge it and kind of went on so that was sort of a half true half false it depends which which moment you're looking at but I'm watching the outrage

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looking at but I'm watching the outrage competition and I'm trying to see who who on the Left which anti-trump er is even on the right which ones have done the best role-playing of being deeply offended I've got a feeling that a lot of people who say they're the mo offended by it or first of all not immigrants and probably are not that offended by it at all so it all looks like acting to me it's like yeah it's the outrage Olympics and I think the winner is se Cups if you read her stuff I think she's done the best job of being deeply offended by it all and so give her credit for acting the most offended now how much should we care about it the president said he was unhappy with the chance I would add to that I am

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chance I would add to that I am personally unhappy with the chant but I'm only unhappy about the way it was received the people of doing the chant I think we're just having a joke it looked like they were having a laugh I don't believe anybody chanting thought that Omar was at any risk of being deported at least for for the reasons stated but imagine how scary it would be pretty scary so I would agree with the president's assessment that maybe we should tone that Senator Bakk stuff down because it does scare a lot of people and it's not fair do you know what else we should stop doing calling people Nazis maybe we should tone that down don't you think maybe we should give anti far less less reason to hit people on the head when they're not looking so I don't think you can treat them as

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I don't think you can treat them as substantially different the the problem with the chants send them home has nothing to do with the people in the room who are chanting it has to do with let's say normalizing normalizing a type of behavior which could lead directly or indirectly to bad behavior because it condones it it would make somebody some day somewhere more likely to cross a line because they believe mistakenly I think they would believe that there are a lot of people sort of on their side there are a lot of crazy people in the world a lot of dumb people in the world and even though there's people at the rally we're probably just having a laugh with it I think they were just doing it for fun somebody's gonna take you seriously and somebody's gonna say well yeah we should act on this in some bad way and in fact I've seen videos of bad actors telling individuals to go back home we don't

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individuals to go back home we don't want that but we also don't want people calling us Nazis for wanting good border security for example how about we treat them the same how about we make a deal no send your home and no nasty stuff let's call it the same thing because they they both have the same effect that it will cause somebody crazy to do something now there's a huge story that I think is only a huge story in the left-leaning Twitterverse and social media and I'm just gonna mention it because it would seem missing if I don't and it's the allegations the representative Omar got to the United States under false pretense the allegation is that she pretended to marry her brother and that was part of getting him here or here or whatever here's my take on all of that

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whatever here's my take on all of that don't really care don't really care you know you can have fun with it I'm sure the people were deeply into the political policies of it all we're gonna have fun dancing all over it because it's something about burying a brother and it's strange behavior and it might be illegal blada blada blada blada here's my take on that the legal system it can handle that stuff and I use the same standard for President Trump that I'm going to apply to Omar if something is illegal I'll let the legal system take care of it when the legal system is done I'll take a look at it but I'm not the legal system I'm not the legal system I'm not the one who's going to convict president Trump for whatever he's being accused of I'm not

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whatever he's being accused of I'm not the one who's going to start convicting Omar for whatever she's being accused of at the moment there there are no proven facts on that that the legal system cares about and until the legal system has weighed in it's none of my freakin business all right now how do I feel about it as a human just that just how do I feel about it as a person that somebody may have gamed the system to get out of a terrible situation to get to a much better situation in the United States and some allegations that her family some part of her family went to Great Britain how do I feel about that pretty good pretty good you know the legal system still has to handle whatever it needs to handle so I'm not I'm not excusing anything legally if there's a legal problem the legal system will deal

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legal problem the legal system will deal with it and I'll alway but when I see somebody in a bad situation who figures out had a bender rule or two to make their situation better I say if that were me I'd do the same thing so let me let me put this out there as clearly as possible if I were in her situation a bad situation and I could bend a rule to get to a good situation I would do it I can't judge people ethically or morally for doing exactly what I would do somebody says you're excusing it let me make this clear for the stupid people okay I'm only going to talk to the stupid people now the rest of you I already know the answer to this for the stupid people legal responsibility

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the stupid people legal responsibility nobody is excusing it I just said if the legal system has a problem with any of it they will deal with it and once they're done I'll make a judgement until they're done it's innocent until proven guilty that's the standard I will die on and personally I'd do the same thing alright so if you're saying that's excusing it well you can put any words on it you want but legally nothing's excused alright we have to play by the same rules but I would have been to rule in that situation if I were her so I can't feel too bad about that all right
have you noticed that there are a bunch of stories maybe you haven't noticed but mark Schneider's been doing a great job of keeping people informed about all the generation four or at least new nuclear technology and new bills I guess Indonesia has jumped into the

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I guess Indonesia has jumped into the lead on nuclear they're building something I guess a new scale is that the new scale a startup is doing something so there's a whole bunch of stuff that's getting ready to happen here people are asking me about dershowitz so here's what I know about Alan Dershowitz so let me just finish up on the nuclear stuff then there's a lot of stuff happening in the nuclear start up new technology field a lot of stuff and it's hard to imagine that's not going to make a big difference to civilization so thanks to Mark Snyder for keeping us informed on all that alright let's talk about Alan Dershowitz again innocent until proven guilty what is the one thing that Alan Dershowitz argues for his clients and argues for president Trump and argues for anybody who has

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Trump and argues for anybody who has been accused consistently and every time he says innocent until proven guilty so what do I say about Alan Dershowitz in a sentence unless somebody proven guilty now what are the odds of it that's what you want to know right you want you want me to predict you want me to tell you the odds well I was watching I've watched the accusers and if you watch the accusers in isolation you say to yourself huh that sounds pretty bad because accusers will often sound incredible in isolation then you hear Alan Dershowitz talk about those same accusers and things that I think we know about their history for example and you say to yourself that changes everything so I will only base this opinion on what I've heard so far there may be things I haven't heard but based on hearing the

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haven't heard but based on hearing the accusers and then hearing Dershowitz you know talk about his side of it I will tell you that guilty people don't talk the way he talks guilty people don't do what he's doing guilty people don't use the mannerisms the words any of it if I were to judge him just on mannerism words actions how he's dealing with it how much he's willing to you know release all of his information if we can see their information as well he's either the smartest guilty person who ever lives Carol Leno or he's totally innocent because he's acting like an innocent guy secondly when he gives his version of let's say framing what we know about the accusers it's really damning all right in other words the accusers have credibility problems that aren't small

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credibility problems that aren't small they are not small problems somebody says why did I judge small it - you hypocrite I'll just get rid of you some people just like to complain so here's my here's my take on Dershowitz based on what I've seen so far I would say innocent that's my that's my prediction if there's some new person new accusation something else comes up well it's something I haven't seen and therefore I don't have an opinion on things I haven't seen but based on what we know listening to his defense and listening to the act the accusers Dershowitz is a lot more persuasive that's all I can tell you now you have to keep in mind that he's an expert on on people being accused so if anybody

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on people being accused so if anybody could if anybody could put up a good defense it would be him obviously but he looks really innocent to me doesn't mean he is but he's innocent until proven guilty and it doesn't look like anybody's gonna prove it because what he said about the accusers it looks like that's easy to demonstrate in other words he's making claims about the accusers which are easy to verify that they've made other claims in the past for example that were not credible so I think that he's gonna be okay when this is all done all right the most interesting thing are here's a more another tidbit Joel of Breitbart pointed this out and I love this observation so apparently Omar said recently and forgive her bad grammar but she said if I was wearing a Maggie hat if there was a Somali person wearing a

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if there was a Somali person wearing a Maggie hat they would not be deported because I criticized the president I should be deported now as Joel points out she just said it wasn't racist wasn't the whole point that is racist but her statement is that if all if she were exactly the same race exactly the same person same gender same ethnicity same situation if everything had been the same this is what Omar's saying but she was also a trump supporter wearing a Maggie hat she says that nobody would want to deport her so in other words it's not about a race says says Omar at the same time she's saying well it's all about my race so it feels to me as if the whole you're a racist your racist thing it's just just completely dissolving it's

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just just completely dissolving it's just falling apart it's just stupid at this point and there used to be a point and I think it was a legitimate point if you went back I don't maybe let's let's make it easy let's go back three decades three decades ago if somebody said hey somebody's being racist against white people you would have said most people would have said that's not a thing yeah you can be bad to white people but you can't be racist against them because they have all the power and it doesn't work that way right they're the powerless are not really racist against the people in power so that was you know three decades ago and really up to the present people would have said something like that it no longer looks that way to me
me to me it looks like there is absolute unambiguous racism against at least

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unambiguous racism against at least Trump supporters at least conservatives and mostly white people so I think that that framing of that you can't be racist against white people I feel as if this is the year that that changed I feel as if this is the year that you could go in public and say oh yeah it's just total racism it might not be as bad as other people's racism it might be a different kind there might be a different power dynamic in play that could all be true well let's call it what it is people are getting pretty racist in redirection now what I've said before and I'll say again people don't have an option of not being biased because your brain is a pattern recognition machine but it's not very good at it so we see patterns everywhere but you know some huge percentage of the time it's just an illusion but then we form our opinions based on those illusions so people are by nature

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those illusions so people are by nature biased by their experience and and anybody who's different is going to be automatically the subject to bias so the way we should be judged is the degree to which we can overcome it and I think we have to just accept that we are really bigoted species pretty much everybody and yet it's expressed in different ways and different amounts and I'm not saying it's all equal I'm just saying that everybody looks pretty bigoted to me one way or another and we're not all as equally talented at dealing with that all right let's talk about something else here's some good news Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham apparently went golfing with the president recently and came away with an agreement that Rand Paul could talk to a senior Iranian official I guess the official will be in the United States and try to see if they

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the United States and try to see if they can get a some conversation started about peace now what do you think of Rand Paul as let's say a key diplomat in this in this context a key negotiator with Iran what do you think of that might be one of the best ideas I've ever seen so I've said this before I I don't agree with all of Rand Paul's political philosophical leanings so I can't say I can't say I'm on the same page with him fairly frequently but here's some things we can say about him number one he's more creative than normal politicians check you're gonna need somebody who's thinks outside the box somebody who's not constrained by anything and I I don't believe that Rand Paul is constrained by anything except what he thinks is a good idea so that's good you know you that's

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idea so that's good you know you that's the person you want there secondly because of his his weird independent stance he's not a Democrat but he's not really a Republican he just you know works with a Republicans he's sort of his own person and I'm trying to think is there any instance or allegation against Rand Paul for being not trustworthy can is there any scandal I'm not aware of because I believe Rand Paul might be just about correct me if I'm wrong might be the most credible person in the entire government am i wrong because here's what we could know about Rand Paul just because the politics are leaning in one direction tells you absolutely nothing about what Rand Paul's gonna do right he seems to be

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Paul's gonna do right he seems to be completely free from political wind and he seems he seems to have the ability to first of all be persuasive I feel like I feel as though he's become more and more persuasive even just in recent years so he's probably the United States best now I suppose you could find somebody's been retired for a while etc but does Iran want to talk to some 80 year old retired person who used to be negotiating during the Reagan era no they want to talk to somebody who just golfed with President Trump Rand Paul is just about perfect for this job just about perfect now here's the better part Lindsey Graham had this idea he wrote about recently with Jack keen General Jack keen in the Wall Street Journal talking about a deal a proposed deal with Iran in

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a deal a proposed deal with Iran in which that they could continue their nuclear development but it would be for a peaceful nuclear power and the fuel rods which would be the dangerous part that you could turn into weapons I suppose that the fuel rods could come from China or Russia and the United States might be ok with that because you know China and Russia already have nukes and they have a they have an interest in keeping Iran non-nuclear too so maybe everybody wins now that's not enough because there are all kinds of other issues support for Hezbollah whatever they're doing in Yemen you know a bunch of other stuff but as a basic starting point it's really good and as Lindsey Graham pointed out if Iran poo-pooed that completely you know the idea of using their nuclear capabilities for peaceful nuclear power remember that's what they say they wanted for Iran says they want it to build power plants that's been their

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build power plants that's been their story so if they won't accept their own story of why they want nuclear power well then you've proven that there's ulterior ulterior objectives and then you have to deal with that but you but you'd have more power to deal with it because then it would be more clear what the problem is so yeah we could call them on it so I've been telling you that the Middle East different from any time in history the Middle East peace is down to one person who needs to change their opinion that's it the the Ayatollah in Iran if that one person decides to play well we've got something amazing and you know you can't you can't overstate the power of luck and timing and being in the right place but you need a president Trump you probably need a Rand Paul I think you need a Lindsey Graham these are really strong players you need a you

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are really strong players you need a you need a Netanyahu strong player and I know you're not gonna like that but she need Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince MBS he is a strong player in the sense that he's willing to go against you know convention he's willing to go against history seems to have control of his country and he wants peace he wants to work something out you a yes brutal murder we're not overlooking that but we have never been this close it's right on the right on the cusp now of course the Ayatollah could blow it all up tomorrow and send us back to square one but we've never been this close let me give you one other negotiating concept somebody said they liked watching my periscopes because they pick up some negotiating tips here's a negotiating tip for Iran you know sort of working in North Korea we've already said - hey Iran you know

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we've already said - hey Iran you know your economy could be great you could be a great country but I think we should make an offer that's just bigger than all offers in other words I don't think it's enough it doesn't it doesn't change the way you think about things enough to simply say hey let's stop being you know bad with each other stopping being bad isn't enough we should offer that they become part of something big you know part of the Golden Age if you will they should be Iran should be wait for it and ally of the United States that should be the ask the ask should not be hey can we be less afraid you're gonna nuke us that's not big enough that's not new good negotiating good negotiating is I don't want to just stop being your

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I don't want to just stop being your enemy we need to be allies because we've got some big issues coming up we don't want to go to war with you you don't want to go to war with us we never want to go to war if you could maybe just stop some of these proxies you could be our ally and then anything's possible so I would make a bigger ask than just fewer nukes I would go full Ally and this and I would do the same with a Russian by the way full Ally as an offer because then when you're negotiating back from that yeah it changes everything about the way you think about it it's completely different to say you stop being bad than it is to say how about you just be our ally how bad if somebody attacks you Iran maybe will help you out not right away but you know when things could going maybe maybe Iran would like a little little military protection from outside forces I don't see that we would

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outside forces I don't see that we would necessarily be against that you know if they're part of a larger security agreement speaking of North Korea apparently their trade with China is way down it's down 48 percent since the sanctions started so I think North Korea is gonna give flexible I think Iran is already flexible and are making signals like they might but I know what you want to talk about you want to talk about the president's tweet in which you went after Thomas Friedman I will read the tweet for your entertainment all right this is from the President of the United States apparently Thomas Friedman famous author and writer for the New York Times he must have said something the president didn't like something the president didn't like because the president gave him three vicious tweets I will read them President Trump says Thomas quote the chin Friedman the chin if you

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the chin Friedman the chin if you haven't seen a picture of Thomas Friedman and I'd only say this because it's headline news I am not comfortable talking about people's appearance but here it is he has a weak chin he just doesn't have much of a chin so by Trump Trump nicknaming him the chin it draws attention to his least good feature because remember he's an otherwise good-looking guy you know smart successful he doesn't have many flaws except that Jim so president goes after the chin Thomas the chin Friedman a weak and pathetic sort of guy writes columns for the New York Times in between rounds of his favorite game golf I don't know why that's there two weeks ago while speaking to a friend on his cell phone I unfortunately ended up speaking to Friedman I don't know why

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up speaking to Friedman I don't know why we need all those details we spoke for a while and he could not have been a nicer or more respectful to your favorite president me I love when he calls himself your favorite president over time it'll wear you down then I saw the column he wrote quote Trump will be reelected won't he he called me a racist which I'm not and said Rhode Island went from economically bad to great in five years because the governor of the state you did a good job that may be true but she could not have done it without the tremendous economic success of our country in the turnaround that my administration has caused really nasty to me in his average IQ columns his average IQ columns so he's calling Friedman so he's called him the chin a weak and pathetic sort of guy and that he writes average IQ columns and that he quote kissed my ass on the call phony man our president does not like Thomas

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man our president does not like Thomas Friedman here's what I think you know when when Nancy Pelosi and I saw some other people frame it this way they said of the send them home quote they said that the the tweet was racist which is different from saying the person is racist can we agree that people can say things which are bad without being bad people is that a thing can we agree that that's possible Nancy Pelosi says so and I think it is that would be that would be important but we continually conflate offensive with racists how offensive was it for president Trump to call Thomas Friedman the chin a weak and pathetic sort of guy with an average IQ column who kisses his ass and he's a phony is that not offensive well yeah it is it's meant that way it's it's intended

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it's meant that way it's it's intended to be offensive now is the president a racist because he criticized Thomas Friedman now why Thomas Friedman is generic adult white guy so but if he criticizes the people who have banded together as the squad who either by coincidence or intention happened to be people of color and women if the president criticizes them with this kind of fire what will people say racist racist now I'm pretty sure if Thomas Friedman had been born in Great Britain that the president would have at least considered saying he should go back home so I'm kind of in the camp of the president is offensive and if you think

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president is offensive and if you think that offensive is the same as racist there's something wrong with you that that's a problem on your end now if you're complaining because he's being offensive and you don't like your president to be offensive I would say well okay that's an opinion I happen to think it's hilarious I happen to think it works so it's effective and it's hilarious but it's also undignified and if somebody thinks that's more important I would say that's a reasonable opinion it's not one I'm likely to adopt but it's not unreasonable but when you say that somebody who is offensive to everyone is a racist what he's offensive to people of color this is not flying that's just not that's just not good anything all right I think we've talked about oh did you how many of you noticed on Jeopardy last night one of the

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on Jeopardy last night one of the answers was me so I was a I was a Jeopardy answer last night the question was I guess the answer was because Jeopardy works backwards the answer was the creator of Dilbert who got an MBA from Berkeley and I think I got that one right I think that was me all right those are all the topics I will close by saying if you did not see Bill Paul tase periscope it's on his Twitter feed you can see it on my Twitter feed as well in which he gave he awarded a car a $20,000 car and $10,000 in cash to a veteran who was a woman who was a single mom and it is the coolest thing to watch you have to watch that video because to watch the veteran it was a woman and to watch her reaction to how much that how

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watch her reaction to how much that how much that changed her life to have a some transportation and little cash to get going that's life-changing and I'll tell you what I love about it you know one of the things that makes our military the best in the world is the psychology of it I mean a lot of other reasons too obviously but the psychology of our military is a big part of their success and their effectiveness and part of that psychology is you don't leave people behind so you don't leave the wounded behind you don't even leave the dead behind you don't leave anybody behind and even if you risk your own life you don't leave people behind and when I watched bill pulled a who is in effect helping a veteran who in at least in an economic sense had been left behind it really it really makes you feel good it really makes you feel that something important to our human experience important to the military

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experience important to the military importance of the defence important to the national the national psyche the national mental health there's something important happening there so keep your eyes on Bill Polti what he's doing is amazing and I can't say enough about it and I but I will tell you you're gonna hear more from Bill Polti I've got a little bit of idea what's in the pipeline and there's some good stuff coming I gave a thousand dollars recently through through Bill's efforts to a veteran who a veteran and family whose possessions burned up they were it was in a moving truck and the entire moving truck caught on fire and they lost everything down and so a number of us including me donated some money to it won't cover all of it but at least you know it'll take some of the sting away and I I was honoured I felt you know I gave $1,000 and the only thing I felt about it was honored I felt that in some

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about it was honored I felt that in some small way and it is small a small way that I could help this veteran in ways that veterans help us all the time so that's your feel-good moment let's take that into the rest of the day and watch for more bill Pulte news it's gonna be fun there's stuff coming up I'll talk to you later