Episode 582 Scott Adams: North Korea, Portland and Other Places I’d Never Visit
Date: 2019-06-30 | Duration: 42:10
Topics
1st American President to step into North Korea, President Trump! New Press Secretary, Stephanie Grisham…is a keeper Are we entering a “Golden Age” or a “Golden Era”? Portland independent reporter Andy Ngo ATTACKED by Antifa Event with guaranteed violence…masks allowed by police? Why tolerate domestic terrorists marching in the street with masks? Portland is a “Ngo Go Zone” Lindsey Graham compliments Kamala Harris Should Khashoggi murder prevent middle east peace? Comparing Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris
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bum bum bum bum hey everybody come on in here what are you waiting for you know all the fun is in here so stop everything else you're doing because this matters everything else not so much at least you can put it off until later did you come for the simultaneous up are you here for coffee with Scott Adams I hope so because if you are grab your top of your ma go to your class your chalice your stein your tankard your thermos your flask fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee that's just me enjoy me now for the unparalleled pleasure the dopamine the end of the day the thing that makes it everything else better the golden era the simultaneous imp speaking of golden era evanka just tweeted with that phrase the golden era talking about potential for
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golden era talking about potential for North Korea and did you all watch the president visiting North Korea I'll tell ya no other president is gonna be fun I think I'm probably only going to do these periscopes as long as Trump is president because I I can't imagine trying to do this in a world with a traditional president there just wouldn't be anything to talk about that was fun but let's talk about Trump so the first thing I love about this semi impromptu trip to North Korea is it is such a rockstar move if you say to yourself hey you know who does this remind you of does it remind you of a president not really not really it's whatever's better than the president it's a total rock star move who else could tweet
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who else could tweet North Koreans dictator hey I'll meet you at the I'll meet you at the DMZ and maybe I can visit North Korea the first president ever and then what does Kim Jong good in the sack yeah I'll rearrange my schedule see you there and they show up and you know they shake hands and they restart the talks now I'm not going to predict that you know therefore everything will go well because an handshake but anybody who thinks this doesn't matter is just on the wrong planet this matters this is exactly this is exactly the sort of thing that matters because think about what's the biggest issue the biggest issue for North Korea and for Kim is to stay in power to make sure that there's no external threat what is it that keeps him safest it's not his nuclear weapons
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him safest it's not his nuclear weapons the thing that keeps him safest is a personal relationship with President Xi and with Putin and with Trump so if he could have a reasonably good relationship with those three leaders and you know of course South Korea boon he's safe and so he's playing a smart Trump is playing a smart and does it really matter that North Korea has some nukes right now could you in your wildest imagination could you imagine North Korea now moving against the United States in some military or provocative way you can't imagine it right it's actually literally now something that you can't imagine it's only been what a year or so since Trump's been making you know making progress so I would say that Trump is just nailing this now there's something else happening that is more interesting
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else happening that is more interesting than it looks apparently Trump has floated the idea that the US and Russia and China could save a lot of money if they agree to some kind of nuclear missile proliferation thing to replace these start agreements and I think China you mentioned is not interested because it thinks the United States won't keep its deal but here's the thing I've been talking about this for a long time and I'll say it again because the more I say it the closer we get to this being our reality the most natural allies for the United States are Russia and China now here I'm counting Europe and NATO as sort of part of the United States you know the sphere of military influence but in general the the the
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influence but in general the the the powers that have the most power also have the most responsibility it just sort of works automatically that way we three military powers including you know NATO as the u.s. spheres of influence there have all the military power in the world probably I don't know 95% of all the military power is so straight green countries there just isn't any reason that the three of us should be building weapons to aim at each other it's the one thing we know we don't want to do in fact if you were to make a list make a list of all the things your country wants to do where would attacking a superpower be on your list of things you want to do nowhere it's not on the list nowhere on your list of things you want to do is attack a superpower they don't want to attack us we don't want to attack them it's suicide we all know it
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attack them it's suicide we all know it yet we sort of weirdly like zombies were acting like that's not the case must build bigger weapons must a weapons that Russia must aim weapons that China never made sense well I it probably did make sense you know in the in the 50s probably made total sense in the sixties probably made sense because you didn't know what was going on there you know is dangerous world but in today's world a world of Putin and she and Trump those three people get along and the countries get along - do any of you have a problem with Russian people or or Chinese citizens do any of you have a problem with them no of course not
not so we should be we should be taking that three-part conversation about missiles
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three-part conversation about missiles and stuff and we should just throw North Korea into the mix because in order North Korea should be the Switzerland of the East and the only way that that's going to happen is if the three big towers and South Korea of course and maybe Japan throw Japan to there just for good measure yeah but mostly China Russia in the United States need to simply agree that we we won't mess with North Korea and I think that would be the key to denuclearizing I think that would be the key because I think you want North Korea to think that if one of the three turns against it is the last two friends which would be enough right if China turned against North Korea but China was our friend and friends with South Korea well China would think twice right because you know they may want to influence North Korea but on the other
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influence North Korea but on the other hands they might want a stable situation China you know Russia doesn't have any reason to move against North Korea the US doesn't have any reason so why don't we just make a deal North Korea is Switzerland and the three of us will protect North Korea against any one of the three getting aggressive I think that could work all right did you see that the new press secretary Stephanie Grisham got apparently she got bruised in what was called an all-out brawl with North Korean auto security I guess because when the president was there she was trying to clear a path for the the United States media to get a good video and I guess that's North Korean officials or security were in the way so she so she went in hard so she goes in hard apparently gets roughed up and and still comes out and smiling and
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and and still comes out and smiling and what I read I read this I read this story on I think CNN first reading and I'm thinking oh my god she is such a keeper can you think can you think of anybody who would be more perfect for the press secretary for Trump than somebody who would actually get into a physical brawl with North Koreans over really over making sure that that the president's trip was productive because part of making that trip productive is getting a good picture wouldn't you agree I mean the whole trip is really about the picture you have been it's about the personal relationship but in terms of how the public sees it it's about the picture and here was this new press secretary who's saying to herself oh my god we're not going to get the picture what do you do if you're the new press secretary and as it's literally nuclear war is on the line I mean now so much at
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war is on the line I mean now so much at the moment but that's that's the general context and she's got to get something done to get some people out of the way to get the picture what'd she do apparently she starts she she starts moving people out of the way and if they and apparently she got pretty scrappy about it anyway I didn't know anything about Stephanie Grisham and I guess I still don't except she's definitely a fighter she's got a fighter so I love that all right
let me let me see by your comments should we be calling the coming era the Golden Age or a golden era I would like your opinion do they sound the same to you
you Golden Age or golden era which you like better I'm watching your comments now Age era era era era era Age era looks
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Age era era era era era Age era looks like era is wedding now age is catching up a little bit you're a age age age age okay now it's looks like it looks like maybe a tie okay no strong preference I still see some people complaining about otto warmbier now we should complain about otto warmbier because it was a tragic situation and should never happen somebody should pay for it on the other hand if you were to stop the denuclearization of North Korea because you were holding it up for the for some kind of justice for otto warmbier would you be helping the world and would you be doing something that even not a warm beer would want you to do if you were alive if I don't warm beer were alive would he want you to stop peace with
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would he want you to stop peace with North Korea probably not I mean I don't know him I didn't know him but I don't most people wouldn't most people would say you know I sure don't like what happened to me but I'm not gonna I'm not going to be the thing that causes nuclear war so those who are complaining about warm beer it's it's nice that you remember him it's nice that you care but keep your priorities straight sometimes you have to make the hard decisions let's talk about Portland so you know that independent reporter and editor freak Willett and II know my pronouncing his name last name correctly I've only read it I've never heard it and Gio does he pronounce that no that's right right somebody somebody fact checking on that but apparently he went to cover this anti-fur situation in Portland they were
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anti-fur situation in Portland they were a counter protesting some sub racists I guess and they show up in their full dark outfits and masks and they attacked they attacked Andy no and hospitalized them he's actually got a brain damage now I say damage we don't know how bad it is but apparently it's a blame brain bleed I don't know if that's a concussion or if those are slightly different but that's some serious stuff if you've never been around anybody who had a brain bleed sometimes you're not the same you know the level of seriousness of that I don't think can be underestimated and if you saw the attack you saw that it was a crowd it wasn't just one crazy person it was a number of people and they were shouting milkshakes and apparently they've they're adding
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and apparently they've they're adding some kind of quick drying cement to the milkshakes I don't know exactly what that's supposed to do but it's bad news of it if you get it out of you I guess and yeah and so I'm looking at all this and I'm looking at all these people in masks and I have to assume that the police force allows them to wear masks at an event where violence is almost guaranteed think about that the Portland Police apparently must allow them to wear masks they're not arresting them for wearing masks at an event that you know will be violent you don't even have to wonder did is anybody thinking well this won't be violence no nobody thought that everybody thought it would be violence so I have to ask myself would you visit a city whose police force allows
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a city whose police force allows domestic terrorists to walk down the streets with masks on is that a city you want to visit not me Portland is dead to me because I wouldn't first of all I wouldn't want to be recognized in Portland would you well you have less of a problem about it than I do but I'm recognizable in public imagine me just shout out in Portland walking down the street and being recognized is this safe I don't think so I would say Portland is not safe and I so I've issued a no I've issued it well I've declared it had no go zone so Portland's a no-go zone until their local government can figure out how to criminalize wearing masks at the public riots if you can't get that right I'm not going to your town all right I don't care if my book tour requires me to go
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care if my book tour requires me to go there I'm not going to Portland Portland's off my list they need to fix that if you can't get people out of masks in public when you know violence is coming you know it's not even like it's maybe you know violence is coming then you don't deserve well you don't deserve my money so when I call Portland and no-go zone I'm spelling the the no and no go as NGO so I'm naming that after in Dinu all right what else is going on yeah
we'll get rid of this guy troll down so somebody just before I blocked him somebody was giving me a hard time for appearing on Alex Jones I would like to remind all of you what my brand is so my
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remind all of you what my brand is so my brand some people hey you that word but I don't have a better one my brand is talk to anyone that's my brand right now if you make your brand it becomes ok here here's the reason my brand is talk to anyone number one I do this sort of thing in public if you if you do public stuff where you're talking to people you kind of need to have a rule that you can talk to everyone and the reason is that even if you think you're talking to good people you could find out later that they were cannibals or something so you don't want to be branded by who you talk to that's the first thing second thing is at my age are they influencing me or am i influencing them so if you put me with somebody you don't like what's likely to be the outcome well the
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likely to be the outcome well the outcome is it's very unlikely that the person you don't like is going to change me and kind of said my ways but what are the odds that I might change that person you don't like pretty good pretty good I'm pretty influential so the more time I spend around people that you don't like the better those people become now I don't mean me in particular but in general contact contact is good you see president Trump visiting North Korea because contact is good the president is not becoming more of a dictator because he visited Kim jong-un is he but Kim jong-un might be becoming more of a let's say more of somebody we can deal with because the president has a personal relationship with them so who
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personal relationship with them so who changed because Trump visited Kim which one of them changed probably Kim now I don't mean changed at a fundamental level but in terms of how he's relating to the how he will relate to the world I think Trump is exactly the same and I think Kim is is opportunistically deciding to change in a way that's good for North Korea it's good for us so every time you say somebody you like should not spend time with or talk to somebody you don't like you're making the world a worse place under the conditions now this is a condition that has to be true under the condition that the person you like is more influential more persuasive than that person you don't like if you throw me onto the island of I know the island of bad people whoever they are the
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of bad people whoever they are the islands gonna get a little nicer all right I'm gonna make your island a little bit nicer if you put me on the island with criminals or the island of whatever bad people and if those people talk to me I'm not going to change what they might so be careful what you wish for all right I think that's about all that's going on right now somebody sent somebody on the comment says I once responded to one of their comments and the commenter says there are horrible people horrible person
Portland Island yeah Portland is a situation of violence so I think it's fair to avoid violence but if I had a yes I would talk to empty file so if ante file wanted to come on my periscope and enact will have an actual conversation I would love that
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conversation I would love that and who is likely to be different at the end of the conversation me or the person from anti-fog well probably neither of us because people don't change that easily but a little more likely that the anti-shah person is gonna leave with some doubt and very little chance that I'm gonna leave with some empty file leanings did you see that Lindsey Graham had some good things to say about comm laris and thought she could be a force to be reckoned with I believe that's true so I think she got a weak start Harris did but she came on strong during the debates and she showed she has a lot of range and I think that's gonna help her but there's nobody in the in the contest who is competitive with Trump now I don't know how any of the Democrats are
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don't know how any of the Democrats are going to survive the the hand-raising stuff when they were asks questions such as how many of you would want to you know the country I don't know I forget how it was worded but how many of you were in favor of giving up private insurance for for public insurance and some other questions that are just going to be too hard for them to deal with in the future
all right just looking at your comments do you have any questions all right I also saw somebody complaining that they thought president Trump was just trying to get a Nobel Prize for North Korea and I think to myself that is the lamest attack because how do you get there's only one way to get a Nobel Peace Prize you have to do something that's worthy
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you have to do something that's worthy of a Nobel Peace Prize can you really be mad at a leader for trying to get a Peace Prize I would say that's the very best motivation I can imagine I would want all of my presidents to be at least trying to get a Nobel Peace Prize you know maybe you don't get one but you should be doing something that would movie in that direction
everybody who says let me tell you what I'm just absolutely sick of hearing and it's it's early I am so sick of hearing people complain about Harris you know so called sleeping her way to the top or getting your job because she had an affair with a married man and all that now I'm not gonna say it's not true the way you're characterizing it I am gonna say it's 20 19 people people
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say it's 20 19 people people it's 20 19 and none of that stuff happened too recently let it go just let it go it's not gonna have any influence on the election none it's not interesting it's not fun it's not new just let it go I mean there are plenty of reasons that she could lose the Trump but her the the integrity of her personal sex life is just not the thing that's gonna make the difference there's nothing less important than that you people have identified literally the least important thing about her and decided to focus on it just trust me on this I know you want to attack her and it's fun because she's on the other team and you know it's fun to say you know naughty sex stuff about people but just let it go please just let it go or or if
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let it go please just let it go or or if you don't want to let it go just let it go when you're on periscope with me because it's not useful it's not fun it's not interesting it's just words it just doesn't have any meaning it's 2019 the time to move on all right oh great there's some other people saying the same
that's a good question oh uh Acosta was grabbed Oh somebody remind me what was the so was a Jim Acosta said something to Trump he asked you a question about whether whether is worried about offending somebody and he said to Acosta I don't mind if any people you should know that to Acosta which is just like
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know that to Acosta which is just like what are the best comments ever somebody says do I still think your settlement with Iran is possible yes yes I believe that some kind of a positive development that involves Iran as well as larger larger parts of the Middle East is absolutely possible yes now I wouldn't go so far as to say it's likely I will only say that we've never been closer to a table that's been set with all the right players and all the right situation to get something done that looks like you know a more lasting peaceful situation we've never been closer and I wouldn't be surprised if everybody recognizes that now Iran's supreme leader let's talk about - shoki
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supreme leader let's talk about - shoki all right so warm beer otto warmbier and Khashoggi are exactly the same situation yes we care about them yes we care that they were brutally murdered we care at whatever is the maximum you can care about such things but we live in a big complicated ugly world in which you have to look at all the costs of things versus all the benefits of a thing before you decide to move and there lots of costs and there if you do it right there are lots of benefits the Josh Oggy thing is one of the variables if you decide to make it the only variable and say to yourself and a friend of mine recently made this argument that from a moral standpoint you should never deal with Saudi Arabia because their leader did something we don't like now suppose that prevents you
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don't like now suppose that prevents you from having peace in the Middle East would that be the right trade-off would you take an ethical stand that says we can't deal with why can't an MBS then we can't deal with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia because you know we assume use involved in this murder if you do that you're making that one variable the thing that there's a difference between war and peace the death of thousands the death of millions potentially how does that make sense how do you justify that with your morality now these are what I call half pinions 1/2 pinion is when you look at just the cost of something or just the benefit and you just sort of pretend that the other stuff doesn't exist and it's not a good way to go through the world who do
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good way to go through the world who do I think will be the Democratic nominee I picked Kamla Harrison one year ago so one year ago I said it would be Harris and today I would say is going to be Harris picture this will you Elizabeth Warren and Camilla Harris and Joe Biden on stage can you imagine let's say the the final three comes down to Harris Warren and Biden well it's not going to be Biden I don't think as I think he will just continue to self-destruct I believe that Biden will never have another day there will never be a poll again there shows Biden gaining on the crowd every poll from now on he will be lower than he was relative to the other people in the crowd so that's my first prediction every poll
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that's my first prediction every poll Biden will be lower until he's out of the race now let's say you you've decided there are two women in the top two at least in the polling I think that's gonna happen maybe you know Bernie seems to be relevant I think it was was a Dana Perino who said quite unsightly she said nobody was talking about Bernie Sanders after the debate and that was a really good comment because I always love it when people look at the the blank space on the canvass the people who noticed the thing that's not happening that's always harder to notice right because we're attracted by shiny objects so if you're looking at the shiny object you're missing all the other stuff and as a Dana Perino pointed out who's talking about Bernie Sanders nobody nobody's talking about Bernie Sanders so that I think that tells you where that's going to end up so I think it's gonna be Warren and Harris and the final two now
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Warren and Harris and the final two now you're a Democrat think of think of Warren just just hold a mental picture plus a picture of her policies and personalities just hold it in her head now now put it right next to Harris in your head do you see it Warren is the weak washed up version of Harris because in your mind you're gonna say other to women so you see you can automatically say that these two need to be compared and they're both fun personalities but one is younger and one is a little tougher and that one is Harris so I think the younger tougher and let's be honest the one who's the person of color it's got an advantage she's got an advantage so I think Harris lines up well with Warren when it gets
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lines up well with Warren when it gets to the final two and you don't see it as much when there's a big crowd when it's a big crowd you're not comparing any one person's any one other person you're comparing each person to the crowd if you compare a Warren to the crowd she was great like she's way better than the average of the crowd but assume this is one on one
one Harris versus Warren Warren's gonna disappear a little bit she's she's sort of a older washdown version a little less flavor a little less spice than Harris has so I think Harris matches that better and it's going to be those two those will be the final two and then Harris I think can edge out Warren and by the way I think Warren is good let me make let me make the provocative had an offensive prediction I'll make it a predictor if Elizabeth Warren continues
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predictor if Elizabeth Warren continues to wear the same spectacles that she wears now she will not win the nomination I'm gonna say that again if Elizabeth Warren continues to wear the same glasses that she's been wearing so far she will not win the nomination because it makes her look like a grandmother and she's gonna be standing on stage probably next to Connell Harris who just seems newer younger she's just gonna seem like the shiny object if she changes her glasses to something that might look a little more modern or goes with contact lenses if that's an option or something she has a chance to take a number of years off her age yeah she has granny glasses and something saying if she took five years off of her age by simply just changing with glasses and by the way the reason I mentioned this is that I
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the reason I mentioned this is that I did I did the same thing do you remember the glasses I was wearing a year ago did they make me look a lot older they did right as soon as I change to a more modern spectacles I looked probably five years younger just by changing the glasses and it's not so much how you look physically it makes you look like you have a little more let's say connection to youth it's not that you look younger per se they say you will see me younger thinking because you know at least you got your outward look right you know her haircut summit somebody's mentioning Elizabeth Warren's haircut that's not bad I mean I think it needs to be shaped a little differently to make it a little more modern for the same same argument as the glasses but the hair is pretty good I do like her
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the hair is pretty good I do like her hair and I think that could be a little more modern but it wouldn't take much
Ward has Trump hair it's funny everything looks like Trump hair Warren looks younger than 70 anyway she does so I would say Warren that has impressed me as a candidate and as a person because she is in great shape she's got a great energy and she is she's definitely making a serious run for the presidency so I I respect that even though her policies seem a little impractical all right oh yeah I've heard a number of people say that Harris sounds like
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people say that Harris sounds like they're crazy ex-wife you know I and I guess everything this is very subjective but when I listen to back in the Hillary Clinton days I could not stand and listening to her talk I mean I just couldn't stand it it was like stick a hot poker in my ears but I don't really hear that with either Harris or Warren I don't I don't get the you know whatever it is that makes you hate somebody's voice I don't really get that from either them but I hear from the number of you that you do so I'm not going to discount that John Bolton was conspicuously missing from the North Korea crowd somebody says here in the comments that's true that is true
Chyna deal yeah so I guess President Xi I should have mentioned that says that you know they at least in concept that and I feel like I feel like
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concept that and I feel like I feel like I got this story wrong can somebody fact check could be on this because it seems like it would have been a bigger story but it's not even in the news today at least in the top page the story was that I believe President Xi said they were going to do something to protect intellectual property and I guess they would make some other some other accommodations that we would consider a good like buying more more of our farm goods etc and then there was some talk about maybe Trump was going to agree to buy some Huawei stuff I don't know if any that's true but maybe it's not news because we just don't believe China when they say this stuff is is that the issue there's the reason it's not news is because when China says yeah well we'll change the law to protect your intellectual property that we just don't believe it's ever could happen that might be the problem likewise when China said they were going to change the laws to make fentanyl dealing in in China to
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to make fentanyl dealing in in China to make it illegal even if it's a slight variant of fentanyl which was the problem before that their laws before were very specific to a specific chemical but there are they're acting likes and look-alikes that are just slightly different that we're not illegal which is how the dealers got away with it so have you heard of China executing any dealers I haven't right so I'm gonna go on record as saying that I don't believe president Chi in China is credible or believable when he says that they're gonna start executing fentanyl dealers in China don't believe it I'll believe it when I see it but sure of seeing it I think you have to assume that it will remain a negotiating issue and I just don't think it's gonna happen and let me say again I don't think we should cite any kind of a deal with China a trade deal unless they do it so
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China a trade deal unless they do it so I don't think they're gonna do it it's being cracked down and fentanyl and I don't think we should ever make a deal with them if they don't just period just not do any deal at all just find other people to deal with and if they don't like that situation they know what to do about it that's my per my my preference and you trust them to eliminate nuclear weapons I do not I do not trust China to eliminate nuclear weapons I do trust them to know that I do trust China to know that spending a trillion dollars on nuclear weapons will not make them safer than spending half a trillion dollars so I do think there Russia in the United States and China can figure out how to keep their spending to a level where they can destroy each other a hundred times over instead of a thousand times over I think they could do that yes only because it's in their best interest
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best interest yeah apparently Apple is moving some macro production to China from the USA that is how does Trump let that go I'll tell you if if Apple did not have a total stranglehold on my business I would certainly at least think of not giving them any more business but I'm so locked into Apple's products I could even think of making a change at this point somebody's asking me yeah I think the Democratic nominee will be a woman I believe so
all right all right all right I think I've said enough and nothing else say and I will talk to you later