Episode 581 Scott Adams: Jimmy Carter, Sleepy Joe, North Korea, Russia

Date: 2019-06-29 | Duration: 57:59

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President Carter and Joe Biden Democrats have become “The HOAX Party” Bill Pulte offering money to people on Twitter President Trump tweets to Chairman Kim about DMZ get together ALL future Presidents…will be compared to President Trump President Trump’s brand: He can talk to anyone President Trump is friendly with other world leaders…and tough Trade with other countries…is leverage. More trade, more leverage Solid, top-shelf persuasion I’ll be in the neighborhood, like to say hi and shake your hand Andrew Yang is VERY likable, tweeted about the simulation Suggestion: a NEW approach to dealing with illegal immigration

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bum-bum-bum-bum-bum hello everybody come on in here it's time for coffee with Scott Adams and while you're streaming in here all hundreds of you hundreds possibly thousands of you coming in already I see you April and the rest of you some of you who don't have names that sound like names but I see a Jeremy and Orion and in BD and Linda come on in and if you've got a cup or a club cup or a glass or a mug if you've got a tank or just diner jealous if you have a thermos if you have a flask if you have a vessel of any kind fill it with your favorite liquid I like coffee because it gives me that dopamine rush they kiss my morning off to a good start join me please for a little thing I call the simultaneous it if it happens now

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good stuff all right my favorite persuasion error of the day and ready for this here's the error of the day in the persuasion world I remember the the regular world is where people imagine the facts and reasons and policies make a difference to people's decisions they obviously make a difference in the real world but maybe not to their political decisions whereas in the in the real world the one that I live in the persuasion realm people associate things irrationally so if you can associate somebody with some bad character you win even if there's no logical association between them you just have to pair things and then they take on the qualities of the other this is important because the anti-trump press just made one of the biggest persuasion errors you're going to ever see which I might have made a little bit

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see which I might have made a little bit worse for them and it was the story that ex-president Jimmy Carter now in 95 years old claimed in an interview on stage and then he was then it became the news on say then he claimed that President Trump did not win the election legitimately but that Russia through the election to Trump now here's the problem independent of the claim itself which I think we would agree has been debunked by the Muller report that's not really the story now that's the story that's being reported in the two dimensional realm in the two dimensional realm there's an important person the next president he's got an opinion has something to do with things we've talked about Russia collusion it's a story right that's a lady the story it's a story but here's the problem who is on

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story but here's the problem who is on your mind right now well Jimmy Carter's on your mind because that's the story who else is on your mind for possibly being too old to be a president that's right Joe Biden and completely unintentionally the anti-trump media digs up this Jimmy Carter you know zombie corpse probably famous as being the worst president we've ever had at least in you know the modern memory the worst president we've ever had who is also clearly too old hey let's talk about Joe Biden now do you see the problem hey we're talking about Jimmy Carter the worst Democrat president there ever was and he's way too old and he's saying crazy stuff hey let's talk about Joe Biden now you get it it's the worst persuasion mistake

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it it's the worst persuasion mistake they've ever made maybe there was it's the worst one I can remember because they've now paired your memory of Biden with memories of Jimmy Carter worst president ever who's too old is it's really it's devastating now I said earlier that I magnified their error well I couldn't help it so I did a Twitter poll hey you know Twitter polls are not exactly scientific but somebody's saying it's on purpose because they're trying to bury Biden could be but yeah I won't rule that out so I won't assume that I know their intentions I'll just say that was devastating for Biden so that's a good correction thank you for that so anyway it looks like CNN is really running out of material because they lost a vanetti that that kind of fell apart and if the

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that that kind of fell apart and if the best you can do is a next president who's not operating on all cylinders right it's not looking so good for at least beating president Trump have you noticed that even even the Democrats are now saying out loud that they don't have anybody who can beat who can beat Trump it feels like even I think Morning Joe was even saying there yet he doesn't see anybody who could be Trump and I think he's right I think he's right Trump at this point just has to stay out of trouble now what are the odds that Trump will stay in the trouble between now and Election Day well probably zero right I mean he may not do anything intentionally but there's always something he'll get blamed done blamed for so it could still could be fun all right let's talk about the president Trump a little bit Oh before we do that let's talk about Biden a little bit but so here's a here's a quote from Biden he

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so here's a here's a quote from Biden he was just addressing a hundred and fifty supporters in a fundraiser and he said he was in the 2020 race this is Joe Biden because USA is at a turning point is that a good reason he's he's in the race because the USA is at a turning point that doesn't even make sense but he goes on so let's see if the reason follows quote it doesn't mean I'm going to win doesn't mean I'm the only person who can be a good president I
hope I can make a contribution now one of the things I got to read that again and I want you to hear it as capitulation yeah somebody in the comments is calling it loser speak that's what it is one of the things that I learned in hypnosis class which is one of the most useful things I ever learned is that people reveal their intentions

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is that people reveal their intentions by their choice of words now the most useful way that you can use that rule that people reveal their secret intentions or their secret thoughts by their choice of words is if you're trying to seduce somebody would you like some like a tip on seduction here it comes people who are willing to be seduced so we're not talking about convincing somebody who isn't already there I'm not talking about manipulation I'm talking about simply reading people to know if they're already in the mood because that would be useful if you want to seduce to know somebody's already there and the way that you can tell they're there is their choice of words and their choice of words won't be direct yes somebody's somebody's using my example maybe I've used it before but if somebody is hungry and instead of saying I'm famished if they accidentally say man I'm ravished if a woman says that if a woman says man I haven't eaten all day I'm ravished that's pretty much telling you

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ravished that's pretty much telling you green light now that's you know kind of an on the nose example but you'll see that in in their choice of words in general people will also give up their kinks but through their choice of words so if somebody likes to be tied up for example they'll actually use that kind of language in their normal talk so they'll talk about well I got roped into this this project and I couldn't get away I was all tied up and stuff like that so as a hypnotist one of the things you learned is that people broadcast their secret thoughts through their specific choice of words and if you don't think that works just keep an eye on it that's all I'll ask I want you to make a claim because I don't have a scientific study for this but just watch it see how often people do broadcast their inner thoughts by their specific choice of words so Biden has an arrow signaled complete

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so Biden has an arrow signaled complete capitulation I'm gonna read it again just so you can hear it now that I've described what you're looking for so Biden said it doesn't mean I'm going to win doesn't mean I'm the only person who can be a good president I hope I can make a contribution that last sentence is capitulation I hope I could make a contribution people who think they can be President or at least haven't given up yet don't talk like that they say when I'm president and stuff like that they don't say well I hope I could make a contribution he in other words he has already relegated himself from future president to person who made a positive effect on the race yeah that's game over all right so as Richard Barris who apparently is a notable pollster a credible guy said in a tweet today I and Richard bear is's

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a tweet today I and Richard bear is's Twitter is at people's pundit people's pump it with a underscore between people's with an S and pundit he said Joe Biden also returned to push the dangerous lie about Charlottesville it was his first speech a day after and not so good debate performance I don't see how we could possibly progress when politicians keep returning to racially charged lies to rescue their campaigns and I tweeted that the Democrats had become the the hoax party think about the hoaxes so there's the Russia collusion hoax there's the fine people hoax the thought the you know the hoax that the president called nian and white nationalists find people he said the opposite if you watched if you just look at the full transcript he said the opposite a lot of people say he said he did say that but they've only seen half of the transcript before he clarifies they specifically not talking about them and then of course we saw we

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about them and then of course we saw we saw Kabul Harris effectively use the praised segregationist hoax the idea that Biden praised the segregationist when in fact it was the opposite context so those are there are three most prominent hoaxes and they really have built an entire an entire platform around it now some of you are ahead of me and you're saying what about climate change climate change is the biggest hoax of all well is it I'm not a scientist my current take on climate science just to give you an update because many of you know I've been trying to do a deep dive into it my current view is that I'm sure there's something to the science but there's probably a lot less to the prediction models and they certainly don't include the fact that that we could ramp up and get smarter and do things if we got

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get smarter and do things if we got desperate so where I'm at is I'm not going to call it a hoax I'm just going to say it's hard for US citizens to penetrate the science to know what's real and what is marketing that's where we are right now bill Paul tey is offering money to people on Twitter and it's really really interesting now of course he's doing it you know no secret because it builds it gives attention to his Twitter account and he'd like more people to follow and if you're not following Bill pulled a you should because what he's doing is really really good stuff for the country and especially for the inner cities and what he's doing is working on removing blight by getting rich people including him - to fund and also the government as well to fund cleaning up areas that are blighted so that they could be rebuilt

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blighted so that they could be rebuilt or at least you get rid of the crime and the problems that are there and so he's working on one of the most worthy social causes in the country he's not elected he's not an elected official he just decided he had an ability so we went out there and he's just putting his soul into it to see if he can make things better it's one of the one of the most inspirational things you'll have received but as part of that he just offered $10,000 to anybody who can make a the best case that they made it and I think he's given away two gifts of a thousand dollars a piece to some people who really really needed it if you haven't seen these thank-you videos it's really touching I mean you really change people's lives for a thousand dollars and so now he's got one out for $10,000 I don't think he's awarded to yet but you should be following him just for social reasons if you can't do enough on your own you

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you can't do enough on your own you think the world needs to be a better place you don't think government is the answer for everything and you want to just boost his signal a little bit he's a good person doing good stuff and you should follow him at at pulled a pul te outside pulled a follow him on Twitter you won't regret it alright so Trump of course is at the g20 and the big news is that he said that you weren't he sent out a tweet saying that if Kim jong-il and it happens to be in the neighbourhood and you know he's available maybe they should meet at the DMZ when the president visits South Korea tomorrow I think which might be today because of the time differences and they should just say hello and shake hands now what do the critics say well people like fraud for Farid Zakaria and he was talking to Don

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Farid Zakaria and he was talking to Don Lemon saying he's looking too desperate he's trying to get up he's trying to get a Nobel Peace Prize he thinks that North Korea is the way to do it and so he's doing a really bad job this is Farid he's doing a bad job of negotiating because everybody knows negotiating 101 is you don't act desperate and acting like he wants to be his friend is acting too desperate infra Reid's opinion therefore it's just sort of rookie rookie behavior that's my interpretation of retreat here's what I think Fareed gets wrong I think what the president's doing not just with North Korea but with all of the leaders that you've got a problem with whether it's Putin whether it's Saudi Arabia's prints been solvent B what's it what's his initials BS em they could never remember Saudi Arabia's leaders name and initials

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Saudi Arabia's leaders name and initials but you know I'm talking about so the president I believe MBS sorry yeah MBS I believe the president is setting a standard for presidents by which all future presidents will be compared and they will not be compared favorably it's gonna take a little time to understand what he's up to meaning what the president's up to by being friends with all these people he seems to be the only person who's been president who understands how human beings work he's the only one who understands how human beings are wired because if you're a salesperson what is what is the first sale you have to make before you sell your product the first sale you have to make every time is yourself you have to sell yourself if you don't sell yourself you're not going to sell your product basic talk about salesmanship 101 talk about negotiating

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salesmanship 101 talk about negotiating 101 you have to sell yourself then once you've created a a friendly situation a positive vibe then you can sell the other thing now the other thing that the president is getting right is he knows there are two sales involved three sales there are three sales that have to be made one is the the sale of the deal itself let's say the two leaders come up with a deal eventually they have to sell that to each other to each other they have to sell it in the negotiating teams but then separately they have to sell it to their country and that's two more sales so Kim jong-un has to be able to sell it and President Trump needs to be able to sell it president Trump is preparing for all three sales because he wants Kim jong-un to walk a walk away from any deal that they make you know that they agree to and to be able to go to his country into the people that you need support from

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the people that you need support from and say my friend the president and I worked something out and I think it's going to work out because we worked it out we're friends and that's the most important thing is that we you can't make a deal under the understanding that the person will never break the deal this is very important a deal is only as good as the individuals making the deal the fact that you put something on paper and even if you put some teeth in the deal that doesn't stop anything from happening right the deal is really just a capturing trust between two entities all right so the actual piece of paper the deal even with the penalties built into it is really just codifying and writing down on a paper a level of trust that the negotiators have have attained with each other but it's the trust with each other that's the deal that's the deal because the details of the contract can

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because the details of the contract can you know they can be off a little bit maybe you need to renegotiate and stuff as long as the two parties are solid with each other then the details are going to be easy to work out if the two parties are not solid with each other it doesn't matter what the details say one of them is going to cheat right so the president is doing the deal before the deal he's doing the important deal the deal is the relationship that's the deal the piece of paper they make how many missiles do this who's pointing what missiles at what who spends what what penalties that's not the deal the deal is the relationship and he's building the relationship and I hope it can last you know even when President Trump becomes an ex-president whenever that happens after his third or fourth term I suppose he probably will be the most important person in the country because he will have still personal relationships with a number of leaders that might come in really handy to the

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that might come in really handy to the next president don't you think so yeah and that's why Iran failed there was no trust between the leaders I was exactly correct somebody just said in the comments so when we watched the president doing the smartest thing the president ever did which is which is which is work on the personal relationships we see that it's already working we see that for example working with both China productively and Russia productively and North Korea's leader productively we're by far it is by far the most productive thing anybody's ever done in that part of the world by far there's nobody even as close to this this is a whole different level of intelligent approach to the problem now the President did when nobody else could do he was really the perfect person for the job because the president already

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the job because the president already had a brand that he could work with anybody yeah if you look at his his personal life forever you can see that he's he's open to literally everybody there's almost nobody who who he's not willing to talk to and form some kind of relationship with for productive reasons and that's the sort of his superpower and you're seeing that I don't think his superpower will be fully appreciated his during his term but here's my prediction for the long term wait for this one long term prediction president Trump's style of pre friending befriending the leaders of these frenemy countries will be considered the standard by which all other presidents are compared forever he's changed it forever because you can never you can never be a jerk to another leader if you're the president of the United States without a lot of people saying oh you know there was this other president

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you know there was this other president who wasn't a jerk to these people and even though they are evil he got a better result than you're getting by treating them like jerks one of my good friends who was a who's suffering greatly from TDS wrote me a long and passion letter and he said that based on these latest accusations against President Trump from a gene Carroll was it the writer and he said to me how can you be supportive of this president when you know that that this accusation is there and of course he believes all the accusations because he's a Democrat so he actually thinks all this stuff is true you actually think that he thought they'd eaten Carroll sounded credible now I said well you know there's a lot going on right we got the economy that he's doing well we've got North Korea this looking good we're negotiating with China for the first time the way we should have we may

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first time the way we should have we may have a chance of having a non nuclear Iran things were going well and a whole bunch of ways and so I pointed that out and my friend said he said well he couldn't he couldn't possibly support him because of this allegation this non credible allegation from this one person about something that may or may not have happened 20 years ago that has nothing to do with politics and I thought what is wrong with him like that there's really something wrong with your brain if if you would reject on principle this this leader who clearly has a skillset that is productive like not just productive but we're talking trillions of dollars productive we're talking feeding the poor we're talking lowering unemployment we're talking prison reform effective we're talking super super effective you know in most of the right

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effective you know in most of the right ways you know depending on your point of view and you would you would throw that away because you have the bad feeling about this one thing they that there's no solid evidence even happened how is that rational that's not even close to being rational you know and of course he throws out the the old I don't believe that the ends justify the means if you ever hear anybody say I don't think the ends justified the means you're talking to somebody who's got a mental disorder or they they studied the wrong things in school because in the real world you always look at all the costs and all the benefits before you make a decision you don't ignore any of them you look at all the costs and all the benefits and then you see which is better you know yeah which direction is better my friend who by the way has a very good education and

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by the way has a very good education and IQ wise would be one of the smartest people you've ever known and yet he says I would not do this I would not do this gigantic basket of goodness because there's this tiny speck of thing I don't like that isn't even relevant to current to the current times it just makes me feel dirty and he would think that that was a rational way to see the world and a rational way to make decisions I don't think it was yeah so somebody you're saying ethics ethics are variables I'm now saying ethics are unimportant they are important they're a big part of being human but ethics are not the only thing that's important and the example I like to use is would you lie to a terrorist to save your child's life yeah you would is is lying unethical yep but of course

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is is lying unethical yep but of course you would because you if it were your child who is gonna die you would look at all the costs and all of the benefits you wouldn't say well it is my child and I am rather fun than my child but don't make me a liar I don't want to go through life knowing I'd lied to a terrorist how will I live aiming so people who can't look at all the costs and all the benefits should not be taken seriously the Trump administration as you know has passed what is what kind it's either a rule or something I don't know if it's an executive order or rule but requiring drug companies to mention their prices in advertisements this is really interesting do you think there is any other president who would have been able to make a change to require drug companies to explain their prices so

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companies to explain their prices so here's another question for my friend who thinks Eugene Carroll's accusation should determine who is president I don't think any other president could have done this now one of the raps against Trump is that Fox News is people are calling you state-owned media because they're so friendly to the president the first thing I would say is they're not all friendly to the president so Fox News is not 100% on the same page you know there are some anchors there who are not so friendly to the president but that aside I don't know that a normal president could have maintained such a relationship with Fox News at the same time there he's absolutely gutting their advertisements there there main source of income for Fox News is advertisements right that's their business model the advertisements most of their advertisement as far as I could

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of their advertisement as far as I could tell is pharmaceutical companies who who reject this idea of transparency in the prices of course of course they object now what other president could look at them and say okay the news networks are gonna side with you because you're there you're their source and have come of course there could aside with them at least at least they'll be biased in favor of them and not decide necessarily but he did it anyway he did it anyway because he's not gonna lose Fox News even if he he could take Fox News's income down 25% and he might I mean this could make a big difference to the pharmaceutical companies who knows but Trump is willing to do that he would take 25 percent off of Fox News's bottom line to solve drug drug prices he would do that what other president would do that I

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what other president would do that I don't know I'm not sure there's another one who's strong enough brave enough determined enough I mean I think he's got a special skill set for this sort of thing and it goes back to the Willie Brown quote from long ago as my favorite quote Willie Brown California politician was asked years ago when there was some question about cigarette tobacco companies and there was a bill coming up preventing smoking or something like that maybe taxing them I forget but it was something that the tobacco companies cared about a lot and somebody said hey Willie Brown the tobacco companies are huge contributors to your campaign how in the world can you be unbiased and vote against them should you decide to do that and Willie Brown said the best thing I've ever heard a politician say he said if you can't take somebody's money and then turn around and stab him in the back you're in the wrong business [Laughter] Hey so Willie Brown just said in public

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Hey so Willie Brown just said in public yeah I'm gonna take their money and if I need to stab him in the back that's that's the job because if you can't give somebody and the way he framed it was just brilliant you know you say yeah you could get somebody you won't do that but you don't want them right you could find the politician who won't take somebody's money and then turn around and stab him in the back wall or everybody's watching you think you could elect that person but don't it's a bad idea don't do that so Trump is that person you will take your money and if he needs to for the good of the public you'll stab you in the back I mean that in a good way Trump also talked about Russia and food and of course he made that joke about his offhand comment to Putin when in four other reporters when they said are you gonna ask Putin not to meddle in the election this time and he looked at Putin with a smirk and said don't meddle and then he said later that he brought

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and then he said later that he brought it up etc we don't know how strongly he brought it up we will never know what that conversation looked like but once again does it matter that does it matter that Putin and Trump are friendly it probably does it probably does matter alright and do you think that Trump could be friendly to Putin in his face and then also stab him in the back if Putin decides to mess with our elections you know he could you know he could would you know that about another president would you be confident with another president that he could be so friendly with Putin in public and still just drive a stake through his heart while the cameras are running in front of the world if he needed to you know if that's what the job required it's hard to imagine another president that you

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to imagine another president that you would be sure he can do it with Trump I'm sure he could do that that best that's so far within his you know within his capabilities that you wouldn't even worry about that being a risk if you understood who he is as a person he's somebody who knows how to get it done he's not gonna be you know artificial things are not gonna hold him back he's he's gonna you know charge right through it alright so he also said this was interesting Trump said that we do little trade with Russia which he called ridiculous because Russia has stuff we you know we'd want to buy so here again Trump is doing the same play that he did with North Korea to good effect saying that being our enemy is a bad deal being our friend and trading with us is an amazing deal and why other people haven't said it so clearly and so consistently and so credibly it is really it's really a bad reflection on every other president who didn't do this

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every other president who didn't do this he's doing the same thing with Iran Iran can be a great country you know will help you et cetera just get on the same page with us and now he's doing it to Russia talking about the economic opportunity far more than he's talking about you know how we can punch each other in the face and I think his instincts are right which is if if we have more trade with a with the country we have more leverage productively look at China China we have lots of issues with how they trade and intellectual property and and even their military growth but because we do so much trade don't you feel safer you do right because the trade is such a big element that nobody wants to get no war I mean nobody's talking about a war with China right it's not even who's talking about that is anybody saying well I think these trade negotiations are gonna end up in a shooting war nobody because we have so much trade that it's not really a

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much trade that it's not really a conversation anybody can even introduce without being laughed at but with Russia we have very little trade and so when we think about the possibility of some kind of a shooting war which I think is vanishingly small but
but does not what's to stop it well Putin I guess yeah yes to decide he doesn't want it and then if we had more trade he would have more reasons not to do and so Trump is I think his instincts are right that we should be at least teasing them with more trade meanwhile I and I love this I love the way the president is approaching the North Korea situation I'm gonna give you a persuasion tip about making friends array for this this is a science tested so science backs this up there's

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so science backs this up there's actually research to support what I'm going to say then if you want to turn somebody from an acquaintance into a friend one of the ways to do it is to share a secret but you don't want to share a secret that's so bad you know they could blackmail you if it turns out that they're they're rotten or somebody who could ruin you by just telling the story to other people right so one way to turn somebody into a friend is to share a secret I have intentionally done this in cases where I wanted to befriend people but you have to pick a secret that wouldn't be so bad if it got out something like you know I just pretend that I like X because I don't want people to know I don't like it well if that got out it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world right it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to say oh I just pretend I like going to the Opera because my I don't because when I me wife likes it or something but any kind of a secret that you trust somebody with

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of a secret that you trust somebody with makes them think oh I guess we're good friends because you trusted me with the secret there's a an uncritical connection people make then if you give them a little bit of trust that they haven't asked for they immediately start reframing you as a friend likewise likewise I believe that this casual invitation to Kim which is so completely outside the realm of what you'd expect for a summit or expect for two leaders the the fact that he's he's personalized this to the point where they're writing love letters to each other which by the way I think they're both genuine I think they actually like each other right but I think the this this latest tweet the President did where he was basically saying to Kim hey I'm gonna be in the neighborhood if you stop by the DMZ and left to say hi and shake your hand that

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left to say hi and shake your hand that is just so powerful I don't think you can understand how amazingly persuasive that is in terms of their personal relationship because he is in front of the world he is the president has declared in front of the world that this is my friend I'm just gonna drop him off how does Kim Jong gonna take this gesture there's only one way to take this that that the president likes you like actually just likes you and and that he trusts you because it is a little bit of trust imagine if the president did not trust Kim and he had said hey I'm going to be in the neighborhood let's get together and he said it in a tweet in front of the world imagine if the president thought there was some chance that Kim jong-un would say I am NOT ready you Imperial dog don't don't be so casual you should go

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don't don't be so casual you should go through the usual channels alright president Trump is investing trust in Kim the Kim's response to this casual invitation will be another casual friendly response so the president has played the secret trick I won't call it a trick because it's just baked into his personality as who he is I think at this point I don't think he thinks of it in terms of strategy so much I think he just knows it's a good thing to do that would be my best guess not not reading his mind but it's very similar to the sharing a secret because the president has just put some trust in Kim the Kim will not slap him back for this casual invitation if you see Kim respond in kind even if he can't make it I mean there might be a reason he can't make it you just some commitment that's so big that even he can't he can't change it

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but I'd be surprised if he doesn't get a he already did respond oh I I think did Kim respond or is I think the the government of North Korea responded in a positive way but you have to hear from Kim before it's real all right next topic you know I always talk about how sometimes I'm just talking about the news then suddenly I am the news because the news becomes who said what about the news and then suddenly you're part of the news well this happened to Ali Alexander yesterday I think so I don't quite understand the topic so I'll just sort of generally tell you what they're talking about and I I don't even think I can have an opinion on this I don't think I'm allowed to have an opinion on this but had something to do with the fact that Harris was born of a Jamaican parent and an Indian parent do I have that right maybe I haven't that wrong but the Ali A's editor was comparing that to the let's say the generic

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that to the let's say the generic african-american who has been here since the days of slavery so Indian and Jamaican yeah so I guess the point is that she's not technically an african-american because she's sort of a Jamaican Indian American who has a similar genetic background and and so I guess that created some kind of a firestorm of about what is what is a legitimate yeah you know are you black enough you know what what does it mean to be african-american and what does it mean to be a black American and all these definitional things and my only take on this is that I think it probably does hurt for the black vote yeah and then there's the story that that Kamala I'm at least one part of her family tree that was actually a slave owner which is that's not not a good

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owner which is that's not not a good look so the question is would this controversy have any impact on the black vote and because I don't have good insight into that community or how they feel I'm gonna put that as a question my guess is it might have some some impact yeah like most things do they don't have a big impact but maybe some so it could be important but Ali I love the fact that Ali brought that up because he can I can't and watch you that's fun Andrew yang had a interesting tweet most of his tweets are interesting that's part of the reason we like him so let me say even if you hate Andrew Yang's politics if you hate all of his policies you don't want him to be president I hear you but he's still very likable what do you say he's probably the most likable person who's running and to both

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likable person who's running and to both sides many people on both sides just gotta like him and one of the things he said was and his tweet running for president definitely makes the world seem more like a simulation now I know he follows me on Twitter but how many people are there talking about the speaker simulation yeah you can think of a dozen people who say it a lot but it's a it's a growing number and now a presidential candidate has a presidential candidate has at least floated the idea the reality is a simulation how much do you love that a presidential candidate who's in the top six on the Republican side has floated the idea in public there were an actual simulation now he's now saying we are I don't want to over claim or over represent that so this is just a fun tweet he's you know you

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just a fun tweet he's you know you wouldn't don't take it a science but I love the fact that he introduced that idea and he's very clever because he knows he knows that that gets attention and it won't heard of it anyway so very clever as we've come to expect from his campaign all right I'm gonna put I save for the end a provocative idea and it's provocative because you're gonna frickin hate this idea well until you think about it a little bit are you ready for this this is why you have to admit this is why you watch these periscopes you don't watch my periscope to hear the same ideas you've been hearing everywhere else alright so I'm gonna give you an idea I want you to tell you in advance that when you first hear the idea that the first part of it god you're gonna hate it you're gonna hate this idea with a passion of a thousand suns but I will tell you in advance there's a second

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tell you in advance there's a second part of the idea that until you've heard it you should withhold judgment on the first part the first part is going to be such a bad idea where you saw you'll think it's gonna hurt you might actually have a physical discomfort some of you will never watch this periscope again but you gotta wait for the second part all right now the other thing I'm going to say is that I'm not claiming this is a good idea what I'm claiming is it's interesting and that it might get us out of the box a little bit of thinking about immigration in particular yeah in just a few different ways so I want you simply imagine there could be an alternative break out way of thinking that would completely change how we look at immigration are you ready what if we gave a free smartphone and three minutes to every illegal immigrant

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I'll let that soak it in for a while does it hurt it hurts doesn't it can you feel that like it actually hurts so much cuz you say to yourself are you freakin kidding me now why would you give our money to people who are already stealing our stuff according to you but there's a better part this smartphone would come maybe a little bit limited so it couldn't do everything but it would have an app on it an app that the government put up puts on there and the app would do the following things so far you hate it right that's where you should be if you if you understood it correctly so far
far you should be hating this idea but wait just wait alright so the app would do a number of things one thing we do would help connect immigrants to jobs so there would be lets say farms for example could have the app - and the farmer would say alright I need 50 laborers

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would say alright I need 50 laborers here but I'm only going to take the people who have answered answered on the app I'm not going to take people who came here and stood in line you have to have to apply on the app so first of all it would make great efficiency in connecting workers with people who need them right still hurts right not good enough whoa not good enough still a terrible idea right let me go on it would also do translations so that they could more easily communicate if they don't speak English and maybe you could even teach them English so it had a translator English instruction sort of things so they could learn English at the same time they could communicate right away some of you are a tepee you're ahead of me I'll get to it I'll get to it the other is a home sharing app so let's say there are good Democrats who say I like immigrants and in fact I'll let you stay in my place you could have no rent or a

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in my place you could have no rent or a free rent or you could just stay here for a while until you get situated and you would list yourself on the app and say
say I'll take I'll take your Guatemalan I'll take a family in fact I've got extra room in my house I'll take a Guatemalan family and we don't have to break up the kids come live at my house until they get settled as long as you want there are people like that some people would say yeah I'll take care of you for a while I like that I'd like to help out so it would help them do it roommate sharing finding finding places so that they're not living on the street next it would collect taxes because you could say that you're farmers or whoever's hiring them can only pay them through the app it's starting to come together now right you don't see yet you still hate it but they can only be paid through the app now of course you can't stop somebody from giving them cash but there would be an advantage because if you're an employer and you pay people

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you're an employer and you pay people through the app you are legal as an employer if you're only paying immigrants through the app you're done you have you have met all of the legal requirements hypothetically so as an employer you like this it's like oh I'll just pay through the app is easy and I'm legal you know I'll never get in trouble with the government for hiring this person simply because I paid through the app next how about if the government took a percentage of that payment just to process the payment suddenly we have an income method essentially we're taxing through the app so as long as the payment is made through the app the government takes it takes a taste whatever that is maybe a pays for a wall so that we have more control even though the doors are open alright next let's say this app is

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open alright next let's say this app is either a gateway to a simple work visa or it is the work visa in other words if you have the app you're being paid through the app it's a work visa so you don't have to apply for you don't have to know what the paperwork is you don't have to do any of that you simply have to have the immigrant phone use it for work so that the government knows what you're up to knows where you're working notice you're being paid and they're taking a taste that's a work visa no you don't need it it rules do you have a phone that's a work visa okay the part that you are ahead of me on was tracking you want the immigrants to be so addicted to the phones that they just won't leave them home because they wouldn't want to leave the phone and lose it it's going to be too important so you want the immigrants to always have the phones with them then therefore you can track them somebody says Jeff GPS tracking is the turnoff is

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says Jeff GPS tracking is the turnoff is it if you're coming here just to work and the government is giving you a phone giving you free minutes allowing you to connect to employers allowing you to find people to take you in make you legal are you going to leave that home I don't think so I don't think you are and it would give us a way to track them and also here's the key you've been hearing that it's possible to turn on the phone and listen to conversations I assume it's assumed asleep I assume it's legal if the government has the right offer is a Shinto do it I think we could take a gigantic bite and if illegal activity if you first of all allow them to more easily find homes and ways to work and secondly if and secondly if you're tracking them all

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secondly if you're tracking them all right so if you're giving them an opportunity for a legal profitable life where they can learn English don't worry about being deported well you don't have as many reasons to commit crimes obviously some of the crimes of passions could still happen but you're going to get caught because even if here's the good part you assume that immigrants hang around together right because every every group hangs around together more than the hanger with other people so you would have a situation where even if the one person who committed the crime happened to leave their phone home that day you would still be able to say okay the crime happened here and we can see that all the other immigrants were in the neighborhood so you know exactly who to talk to so you go to the other immigrants and say well your phone was you know within a hundred feet of the crime what do you say so you could probably make crime for immigrants drop to the lowest crime rate imaginable now

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to the lowest crime rate imaginable now people say immigrants already have lower crime rate but I think that includes the ones that are coming in by airplane if you can buy an airplane ticket you're probably already in the low crime demographic if you if you walked across the border with nothing except the clothes on your back you're probably in a lower economic situation you probably don't have a college education and there's probably a little more opportunity for crime and this would reduce it all right now ad-supported cellphones maybe so how did I do now remember I'm not saying that we should do this I'm not saying this is a good idea I'm saying it's a different idea and if you've if you've watched me long enough you know that I often like to suggest the bad version of the idea to make you think about what might be a better idea so if you've never thought about this idea before throw it in the mix I'm not

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idea before throw it in the mix I'm not saying it's a good idea I'm just saying that the ideas that we have are not good now what would be the likely outcome business now some of you are saying to yourself way you would just incent incentivize all these people to come into the country and then everybody's going to come in if he gives them benefits everybody comes in right but you know who would want them not to come in the other immigrants the other immigrants would say hey I got this good deal I got a free phone I've got a job but if too many of you guys come in I'm not going to get a job there aren't enough jobs I've got a good deal here I don't want more of more of me so you would actually create a situation where your best proponents for keeping additional people from coming in would be the people who already came in and yeah maybe there's a facial recognition element to this somebody's saying all right so I thought I'd throw that out there somebody said you're saying to me

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there somebody said you're saying to me that I'm dr. evil but brilliant I'm just looking at I could read your comments so it's a great idea excellent idea bad idea interesting maybe when hub mm-hmm a Plus innovation somebody says knock it off stoner idea it's a thought just not a complete thought that's correct yeah whoever whoever said it's an idea but not a complete idea that's that's how I'm presenting it it's not supposed to be a complete idea yes and come to court notifications so they would also get notifications they would get notifications of court appearances imagine would you go to a court appearance if if you knew that you had a job and a phone and the country was actually trying to take care of you we probably would write because maybe you would have the path to citizenship or something so you probably would go to your court appearance because you got a

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your court appearance because you got a good deal going how would they charge them maybe they get a battery to who knows a solid 10% of the viewers didn't make it to the end of the idea yeah that's probably true a social rating system how interesting you got that from the Black Mirror TV show or someplace else yeah maybe the immigrants could self rate rate each other that would be interesting they could they could police police their own somebody says you don't even need to hide its purpose exactly you do not need to hide the fact that the phone is meant for tracking etc and other people wouldn't want to the phone because it would only be useful to immigrants because it would be optimized for that
it says they already have phones let's just track those well let's make you know if they already have phones I don't know how many people walking across the border have phones all right that's all

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border have phones all right that's all I got for now and I will talk to you later